1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,330 Gift biz unwrapped episode 316. 2 00:00:03,770 --> 00:00:05,270 I hadn't even came through the door yet. 3 00:00:06,260 --> 00:00:13,670 I hit the door and attention. 4 00:00:13,670 --> 00:00:14,840 Gifters bakers, 5 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:18,470 crafters, and makers pursuing your dream can be fun. 6 00:00:18,740 --> 00:00:22,160 Whether you have an established business or looking to start one. 7 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,830 Now you are in the right place. 8 00:00:25,100 --> 00:00:27,440 This is gift to biz unwrapped, 9 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,310 helping you turn your skill into a flourishing business. 10 00:00:31,590 --> 00:00:32,930 Join us for an episode, 11 00:00:32,930 --> 00:00:35,120 packed full of invaluable guidance, 12 00:00:35,270 --> 00:00:38,120 resources, and the support you need to grow. 13 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:39,290 Your gift biz. 14 00:00:39,530 --> 00:00:41,990 Here is your host gift biz gal, 15 00:00:42,170 --> 00:00:43,370 Sue moon Heights. 16 00:00:44,270 --> 00:00:45,320 I do it too. 17 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:47,300 Thanks for joining me here today. 18 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:49,610 If you've been a time listener, 19 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,190 I so appreciate your loyalty. 20 00:00:52,550 --> 00:00:53,990 And if you're brand new here, 21 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,930 welcome before we get started. 22 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,330 I have to tell you that it's time. 23 00:00:59,690 --> 00:01:03,710 The doors are now open for enrollment in my makers MBA 24 00:01:03,740 --> 00:01:08,180 program. 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Rochelle is a well-known and popular Baker pastry artist and 66 00:03:29,770 --> 00:03:34,600 confectioner. She serves as head instructor and CEO of your sweet 67 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,600 connection, a company that serves other bakers, 68 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:41,260 the knowledge and techniques to develop their own baking business. 69 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:45,760 She's been featured in America cake decorating magazine and seen on 70 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:47,740 tasty. Rochelle. 71 00:03:47,770 --> 00:03:50,140 We've been working so hard and finally, 72 00:03:50,140 --> 00:03:52,630 I've gotten you on the gift biz unwrapped podcast. 73 00:03:52,630 --> 00:03:54,670 Welcome. Thank you. 74 00:03:56,050 --> 00:03:57,130 It took us a while, 75 00:03:57,130 --> 00:03:59,230 but that just means this is going to be a super 76 00:03:59,230 --> 00:04:00,220 special episode. 77 00:04:00,220 --> 00:04:00,790 How about that? 78 00:04:01,410 --> 00:04:03,390 Absolutely Valley made it here. 79 00:04:03,570 --> 00:04:05,430 Finally. Finally, 80 00:04:05,700 --> 00:04:08,850 anyway, I always start out by asking each of my guests 81 00:04:08,850 --> 00:04:11,550 the same question we've been airing actually for about six years 82 00:04:11,550 --> 00:04:14,280 now. So I have six years of answers to this question. 83 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:16,620 Congratulate. Thank you. 84 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:20,220 But our listeners really are interested because it gives people a 85 00:04:20,220 --> 00:04:22,380 different look besides just the intro, 86 00:04:22,380 --> 00:04:24,900 like a different peak inside of who you are. 87 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,950 So if you were to share with us a motivational candle, 88 00:04:28,950 --> 00:04:30,510 that in your mind, 89 00:04:30,510 --> 00:04:33,240 you imagine would be your perfect candle. 90 00:04:33,540 --> 00:04:35,640 What would it look like by color and quote? 91 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:42,240 Well, for color would be purple and quotes would be live 92 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:46,560 life and live it more abundantly And live it more abundantly 93 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,590 because do you feel like people aren't really giving the life 94 00:04:49,590 --> 00:04:51,030 all the Gusto it deserves? 95 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:52,740 No. Yeah. 96 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,350 I think we hold ourselves back. 97 00:04:56,010 --> 00:04:56,580 Oh yeah, 98 00:04:56,610 --> 00:04:59,100 absolutely. Especially in this industry, 99 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,390 a lot of people hold back and don't know what they 100 00:05:03,390 --> 00:05:06,450 really hold or what they really have until they tap into 101 00:05:06,450 --> 00:05:07,020 their gifts. 102 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:09,840 Why do you think that is that they hold back? 103 00:05:10,410 --> 00:05:12,120 I believe fear, 104 00:05:12,270 --> 00:05:15,450 fear of the unknown or fear of the success, 105 00:05:16,380 --> 00:05:17,520 fear of the work. 106 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,900 And that's just from my experience in teaching other students, 107 00:05:22,230 --> 00:05:26,370 a lot of them have a lot of fear or fear 108 00:05:26,370 --> 00:05:29,460 of having such a big responsibility. 109 00:05:30,030 --> 00:05:30,870 Oh, interesting. 110 00:05:30,870 --> 00:05:33,270 So the fear comes from all over the place then. 111 00:05:33,660 --> 00:05:33,930 Oh yeah. 112 00:05:34,050 --> 00:05:38,340 That's just from the students that I have interact with. 113 00:05:38,670 --> 00:05:39,780 And it's so many, 114 00:05:39,900 --> 00:05:45,630 I have taught over thousands of bakers or entrepreneurs from those 115 00:05:45,630 --> 00:05:46,830 that have brick and mortars, 116 00:05:46,830 --> 00:05:52,500 but all of them have displayed to me a fear of 117 00:05:52,500 --> 00:05:53,820 everything I just mentioned. 118 00:05:54,210 --> 00:05:59,540 And more so lately I've noticed the fear of responsibility is 119 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:04,520 like, they start off real good and soon as they feel 120 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,850 like they can handle it or something feels like it's too 121 00:06:07,850 --> 00:06:09,830 much like bills, 122 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:12,740 customer service, 123 00:06:12,830 --> 00:06:14,000 they want to shut down. 124 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:14,360 Be like, 125 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:15,440 okay, I can't handle it. 126 00:06:15,940 --> 00:06:19,960 Yeah. Well I would say that this whole entrepreneurial journey, 127 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,780 like the whole word entrepreneur is such a big, 128 00:06:22,900 --> 00:06:24,610 popular word right now. 129 00:06:25,060 --> 00:06:28,060 Yes. It can equate to freedom in some way, 130 00:06:28,060 --> 00:06:29,890 because you get to be your own boss, 131 00:06:30,190 --> 00:06:31,720 but there is a lot to it. 132 00:06:31,930 --> 00:06:32,860 And like with you, 133 00:06:32,860 --> 00:06:34,990 with working with Baker specifically, 134 00:06:34,990 --> 00:06:36,220 I think it's the same, 135 00:06:36,220 --> 00:06:39,790 whether you're a Baker or another type of product maker, 136 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:44,380 but you love what you're doing because you love the idea 137 00:06:44,380 --> 00:06:46,030 of the making portion, 138 00:06:46,330 --> 00:06:48,910 but there's all the other business aspects to look at and 139 00:06:48,910 --> 00:06:49,960 consider as well. 140 00:06:50,590 --> 00:06:54,910 Right. Everything looks good once you get it done or something 141 00:06:54,910 --> 00:06:57,340 that you either create and then, 142 00:06:57,550 --> 00:06:59,260 or produce, 143 00:06:59,350 --> 00:07:01,090 or start a nutrient. 144 00:07:01,450 --> 00:07:03,250 It's good at that moment. 145 00:07:03,670 --> 00:07:07,180 But then when you're constantly going and going, 146 00:07:07,270 --> 00:07:10,480 it's work involved at the end of the day is nothing 147 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:11,110 but work. 148 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:15,040 And the key to that is to stay consistent. 149 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:16,150 Yeah. Well, 150 00:07:16,150 --> 00:07:18,310 and I think you also have to like doing it. 151 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:19,420 Oh yeah. 152 00:07:19,420 --> 00:07:20,350 I have a passion. 153 00:07:20,710 --> 00:07:22,180 Yes. Some people get into it and say, 154 00:07:22,180 --> 00:07:22,750 you know what? 155 00:07:22,870 --> 00:07:24,280 I really like baking cakes, 156 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,730 but this whole business side of it not interested. 157 00:07:28,060 --> 00:07:31,510 So either they get somebody to do that business side or, 158 00:07:31,630 --> 00:07:33,250 and this is an okay thing too. 159 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,230 They just decide that they're not going to have it be 160 00:07:35,230 --> 00:07:36,010 a business. 161 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,340 Not in the sense that we're talking about a professional business 162 00:07:39,340 --> 00:07:42,370 where you're really going to try to have some portion of 163 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,170 life sustaining income with it. 164 00:07:44,620 --> 00:07:47,470 Right. Even if it's an extra $500 a month, 165 00:07:47,470 --> 00:07:48,190 let's say, 166 00:07:48,490 --> 00:07:49,630 cause still with that, 167 00:07:49,630 --> 00:07:50,530 you've got your taxes. 168 00:07:50,530 --> 00:07:51,670 You've got your bookkeeping. 169 00:07:51,940 --> 00:07:52,630 You have all that, 170 00:07:52,630 --> 00:07:54,010 that you would need to do. 171 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:55,870 This is a whole concept. 172 00:07:56,020 --> 00:07:58,120 I like what you brought up here is that the fear 173 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,450 comes at all different stages because I don't think, 174 00:08:01,780 --> 00:08:03,070 well, I'm going to ask you this question. 175 00:08:03,070 --> 00:08:03,310 I mean, 176 00:08:03,310 --> 00:08:04,120 aren't you, 177 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,250 I don't know if you use the word fearful, 178 00:08:06,250 --> 00:08:09,490 but anxious or nervous sometimes as you continue to grow. 179 00:08:10,030 --> 00:08:10,930 Oh, absolutely. 180 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:15,430 I was going through that right now because I've started my 181 00:08:15,430 --> 00:08:16,510 online shop. 182 00:08:16,750 --> 00:08:17,620 My e-commerce, 183 00:08:18,370 --> 00:08:22,390 but I've been open publicly since the black Friday sale. 184 00:08:22,420 --> 00:08:24,370 So since I was there in November, 185 00:08:25,510 --> 00:08:26,980 I always had an online shop, 186 00:08:27,010 --> 00:08:29,860 but I was selling to just my students, 187 00:08:29,890 --> 00:08:30,640 my groups, 188 00:08:30,790 --> 00:08:32,320 no, the students that's in my groups. 189 00:08:32,650 --> 00:08:36,130 Oh, so now you're public facing with your shop? 190 00:08:36,430 --> 00:08:37,660 Yes. All right. 191 00:08:37,670 --> 00:08:40,720 We're going to dive into that a little bit more as 192 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:41,260 we go, 193 00:08:41,470 --> 00:08:43,390 but I just want to say one more thing about this 194 00:08:43,390 --> 00:08:44,860 fear thing and Rochelle, 195 00:08:44,860 --> 00:08:46,090 I might embarrass you a little bit. 196 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:46,930 I'm not sure, 197 00:08:47,050 --> 00:08:49,520 but you just have to go with me here on this. 198 00:08:50,140 --> 00:08:51,130 I'm very transparent. 199 00:08:51,820 --> 00:08:52,270 I'm open. 200 00:08:53,250 --> 00:08:53,580 All right. 201 00:08:53,590 --> 00:08:57,300 So talking about like looking on And thinking that you want 202 00:08:57,300 --> 00:08:59,160 to start your business. 203 00:08:59,460 --> 00:09:02,280 I remember when I first met you in person. 204 00:09:02,340 --> 00:09:05,520 Okay. Which was at Sid's show, 205 00:09:05,550 --> 00:09:07,860 right? The ultimate sugar show. 206 00:09:08,310 --> 00:09:09,240 Yes, that's correct. 207 00:09:09,660 --> 00:09:14,280 And I'm not even kidding when you walked in first off, 208 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:15,060 you're really tall. 209 00:09:15,060 --> 00:09:17,160 So you have a big presence when you come in. 210 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,740 Right. But it was like, 211 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:24,780 people knew you entered the room and swarmed You. 212 00:09:24,990 --> 00:09:26,310 Right. I was shocked. 213 00:09:28,140 --> 00:09:29,430 Do you remember that? 214 00:09:29,700 --> 00:09:31,260 Yeah. And I'm like, 215 00:09:31,260 --> 00:09:32,550 Whoa, who is that? 216 00:09:32,580 --> 00:09:34,080 I got to know who that is. 217 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,000 And then when I found out it was you because I 218 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,460 already knew you by name and face. 219 00:09:38,820 --> 00:09:39,960 Really? Okay. 220 00:09:39,990 --> 00:09:42,600 Yeah. I didn't know you in person and you know how 221 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:43,350 I knew you. 222 00:09:43,650 --> 00:09:45,990 I knew you because of Aaron from arc-on mounts. 223 00:09:46,290 --> 00:09:47,100 Oh, okay. 224 00:09:47,100 --> 00:09:48,120 Yes. Yeah. 225 00:09:48,150 --> 00:09:50,430 Because Aaron and I got into a conversation about you at 226 00:09:50,430 --> 00:09:52,470 one point along the way he's been on the show too. 227 00:09:52,680 --> 00:09:53,640 Okay, great. 228 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,500 Yeah. And so that was how, 229 00:09:55,500 --> 00:09:59,160 but so my point in bringing this up and embarrassing you 230 00:09:59,160 --> 00:09:59,610 a little bit, 231 00:09:59,610 --> 00:10:01,770 maybe, but just giving our listeners a feel for who you 232 00:10:01,770 --> 00:10:02,550 are too, 233 00:10:02,580 --> 00:10:05,040 is that a lot of people could look on and say, 234 00:10:05,100 --> 00:10:07,440 Oh, I want to be that. 235 00:10:07,770 --> 00:10:11,010 Right. All they see is that, 236 00:10:11,580 --> 00:10:14,610 and they don't see everything else that it's taken you to 237 00:10:14,610 --> 00:10:15,510 get there. 238 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,270 And I'm really curious. 239 00:10:18,510 --> 00:10:20,700 How did you feel when you entered the room and like 240 00:10:20,700 --> 00:10:23,160 all these people swarmed over to you, 241 00:10:23,610 --> 00:10:26,670 was it like shocking and nerve wracking or were you like 242 00:10:26,670 --> 00:10:28,110 excited and happy and accepted? 243 00:10:29,060 --> 00:10:32,720 It was shocking and exciting just to even be in their 244 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,890 presence and that they thought that much of me, 245 00:10:37,190 --> 00:10:37,850 so I'm like, 246 00:10:37,850 --> 00:10:38,750 Oh my goodness. 247 00:10:39,530 --> 00:10:40,100 Like, okay. 248 00:10:40,730 --> 00:10:42,050 It had to feel so great. 249 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,570 It's like affirmation for everything that you do. 250 00:10:45,230 --> 00:10:48,110 I hadn't even came through the door yet and I hit 251 00:10:48,110 --> 00:10:48,710 the door. 252 00:10:52,490 --> 00:10:55,010 Oh. I mean, 253 00:10:55,010 --> 00:10:56,930 like everybody Caught up. 254 00:10:58,130 --> 00:10:58,940 I know, 255 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:00,260 right. Oh, 256 00:11:00,260 --> 00:11:01,820 okay. Well I just walk in. 257 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,460 Yeah. And that wasn't a small room either. 258 00:11:04,490 --> 00:11:04,880 I mean, 259 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:06,590 it was a whole big, 260 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,560 that was the trade show area where all the booths were 261 00:11:09,560 --> 00:11:09,890 and all that. 262 00:11:09,890 --> 00:11:10,970 So it was a big room. 263 00:11:10,970 --> 00:11:11,270 So yeah, 264 00:11:11,270 --> 00:11:12,170 that was hysterical. 265 00:11:12,590 --> 00:11:16,970 But I want to go back and have everyone learn about 266 00:11:16,970 --> 00:11:18,950 myself, included your journey. 267 00:11:18,980 --> 00:11:22,190 Cause we've already talked a little bit about where you are 268 00:11:22,220 --> 00:11:24,890 now. We've also talked about the fear. 269 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,110 You've pointed it out that a lot of your students, 270 00:11:27,110 --> 00:11:29,990 one of the big fears is just even taking that first 271 00:11:29,990 --> 00:11:34,430 step. So let's go back in time for you and talk 272 00:11:34,430 --> 00:11:35,870 about how that happened. 273 00:11:36,230 --> 00:11:40,100 Where were you when you identified that this was something that 274 00:11:40,100 --> 00:11:42,800 you love doing the whole baking industry? 275 00:11:43,730 --> 00:11:49,760 Well, my story is a little different and maybe the same 276 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:50,720 for others. 277 00:11:51,350 --> 00:11:54,520 And it just hasn't out with some, 278 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,060 maybe You've piqued my curiosity now. 279 00:11:58,650 --> 00:12:01,470 So I've been baking for a long time. 280 00:12:01,470 --> 00:12:03,030 Since I was 14, 281 00:12:03,030 --> 00:12:07,800 15, then I got into baking cakes and pound cakes for 282 00:12:07,890 --> 00:12:08,970 my dad's church. 283 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:10,020 He's a pastor. 284 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,650 Well, he just retired Just now, 285 00:12:13,680 --> 00:12:14,460 just recently, 286 00:12:14,820 --> 00:12:15,840 just, Oh, 287 00:12:15,870 --> 00:12:19,290 good for dad Was this last year and my brother took 288 00:12:19,290 --> 00:12:21,690 over. So I would do cakes. 289 00:12:21,810 --> 00:12:26,220 And it was a point in my life in 2014, 290 00:12:26,250 --> 00:12:28,050 2015 things, 291 00:12:28,050 --> 00:12:31,260 2014 or 2015, 292 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:31,950 one of them. 293 00:12:31,950 --> 00:12:33,120 And I just asked my daughter, 294 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:33,870 this question. 295 00:12:34,110 --> 00:12:35,340 I had a tumor, 296 00:12:35,490 --> 00:12:38,040 the size of a soccer ball in my belly. 297 00:12:38,430 --> 00:12:39,180 Didn't know it, 298 00:12:40,110 --> 00:12:41,490 it had to be removed. 299 00:12:41,820 --> 00:12:43,140 It sat me down. 300 00:12:43,590 --> 00:12:46,320 I got into a depressed state in my life because at 301 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,200 that time I had other business, 302 00:12:49,230 --> 00:12:51,180 I had a group home business. 303 00:12:51,180 --> 00:12:55,950 I had eight homes and I would manage them every single 304 00:12:55,950 --> 00:12:56,760 day. Well, 305 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:57,930 this particular day, 306 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:02,580 April 17th, 307 00:13:02,580 --> 00:13:04,200 2014, I was sat down. 308 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,690 I had to learn how to walk again. 309 00:13:06,690 --> 00:13:08,310 I couldn't do anything. 310 00:13:08,310 --> 00:13:11,250 And I was in a depressed state in my life that 311 00:13:11,310 --> 00:13:13,590 I had to figure out something. 312 00:13:13,830 --> 00:13:17,310 I felt I was losing everything. 313 00:13:17,310 --> 00:13:21,120 Because at that time I was making $300,000 314 00:13:21,540 --> 00:13:23,280 a year between those eight homes. 315 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:29,550 So those Were group homes for Seniors and the mentally developed 316 00:13:29,790 --> 00:13:31,470 disabled. So that's one of, 317 00:13:31,470 --> 00:13:33,420 so you were going out and making sure that all the 318 00:13:33,420 --> 00:13:37,260 homes that everything was working properly and functioning well and all 319 00:13:37,260 --> 00:13:38,640 that. Yep. 320 00:13:38,670 --> 00:13:39,570 I had staff, 321 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,460 I would network with different lawyers, 322 00:13:41,490 --> 00:13:43,350 different counselors, 323 00:13:43,570 --> 00:13:47,190 guardians, whoever needed placement for their family member. 324 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:48,180 That's what I did. 325 00:13:48,810 --> 00:13:51,990 Wow. What a fabulous service that you were providing? 326 00:13:51,990 --> 00:13:52,200 I mean, 327 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:53,760 I know you're doing it as a business, 328 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:55,800 but what a fabulous service. 329 00:13:56,070 --> 00:13:57,300 So you, 330 00:13:57,450 --> 00:13:59,220 with the tumor that you found, 331 00:13:59,220 --> 00:14:02,580 like everything had to change in your life in including learning 332 00:14:02,580 --> 00:14:03,300 how to walk, 333 00:14:03,300 --> 00:14:03,990 as you were saying, 334 00:14:04,020 --> 00:14:06,810 and like it was a whole life reset for you, 335 00:14:06,810 --> 00:14:08,460 then I'm guessing, 336 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:09,930 Oh, reset. 337 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:14,490 Everything that was flashed before me was just like, 338 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:15,480 you know, 339 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,900 and then it was crazy because I was getting tired of 340 00:14:19,020 --> 00:14:20,670 just doing it by myself. 341 00:14:21,450 --> 00:14:23,070 My son had went off to college. 342 00:14:23,340 --> 00:14:25,980 My oldest daughter had started driving semi trucks. 343 00:14:26,610 --> 00:14:29,940 So it was just my youngest daughter, 344 00:14:30,180 --> 00:14:31,860 which is going to be 18. 345 00:14:31,860 --> 00:14:36,870 And then my son is 14 and it was her birthday. 346 00:14:37,590 --> 00:14:38,970 And I got cold. 347 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:39,840 Had chills, 348 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,370 came back home and took her to her priorities. 349 00:14:43,370 --> 00:14:46,110 Still try to get her a special day. 350 00:14:46,290 --> 00:14:49,410 And that day they had to rush me from her event 351 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:50,640 to the hospital. 352 00:14:51,470 --> 00:14:53,660 My temperature was 256, 353 00:14:53,660 --> 00:14:55,070 over 180. 354 00:14:55,580 --> 00:14:57,230 I passed out in the lobby. 355 00:14:57,470 --> 00:14:58,040 I woke up, 356 00:14:58,070 --> 00:14:59,240 I was in a hospital bed. 357 00:14:59,780 --> 00:15:00,650 Oh my gosh. 358 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,170 But from that day, 359 00:15:03,260 --> 00:15:04,580 after going through all of that, 360 00:15:05,300 --> 00:15:06,830 I knew that I was like, 361 00:15:06,830 --> 00:15:08,150 okay, I recoup, 362 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:10,040 I got to get back into it. 363 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:11,600 Cause I got a business to run. 364 00:15:12,050 --> 00:15:14,090 So my body went septic. 365 00:15:14,750 --> 00:15:16,370 I was at home with Ivy. 366 00:15:16,700 --> 00:15:17,780 I couldn't do anything. 367 00:15:17,780 --> 00:15:22,670 My sister had to come over and give me medicine. 368 00:15:23,210 --> 00:15:26,030 So during that time I just had to sign up to 369 00:15:26,030 --> 00:15:28,850 do something cause I don't drink or smoke or do anything 370 00:15:28,850 --> 00:15:29,420 like that. 371 00:15:29,420 --> 00:15:32,390 So I really began to tap into my gift. 372 00:15:32,390 --> 00:15:33,500 And over that period of time, 373 00:15:33,500 --> 00:15:36,440 I fell in love with sugar art and started doing candy, 374 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:40,670 apples, anything with sugar temper in and all of that. 375 00:15:41,620 --> 00:15:46,000 Did you test like a couple of creative endeavors and then 376 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,160 land on sugar art or did it come to sugar out 377 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:48,880 right from the beginning? 378 00:15:49,630 --> 00:15:53,440 No. It started with strawberries and then I started doing candy 379 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,870 apples. And then as just started, 380 00:15:56,470 --> 00:15:57,550 just like, 381 00:15:57,700 --> 00:15:58,870 Oh, I can do this with sugar. 382 00:15:58,900 --> 00:16:00,190 I can make a Rose with sugar. 383 00:16:00,550 --> 00:16:01,600 It started from there. 384 00:16:02,170 --> 00:16:04,330 And I remember my sister, 385 00:16:04,450 --> 00:16:07,120 she would come over and she would get me up and 386 00:16:07,180 --> 00:16:08,500 take me into the kitchen. 387 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:12,820 And I would just sit in there because I couldn't walk. 388 00:16:13,390 --> 00:16:16,390 And I would just sit in there and everything was assessable 389 00:16:16,390 --> 00:16:16,870 to me. 390 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,050 And I would just begin to start with my craft. 391 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:20,950 And I was like, 392 00:16:21,340 --> 00:16:24,220 I feel alone until my kids got home. 393 00:16:24,820 --> 00:16:27,280 The time I wasn't a Facebook person. 394 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,060 But at the time I would try to figure out what 395 00:16:31,060 --> 00:16:34,090 I needed to do or to something that would entertain me. 396 00:16:34,390 --> 00:16:36,070 Cause my mind was already focused in, 397 00:16:36,070 --> 00:16:38,770 on being creative for tapping into my gift. 398 00:16:39,220 --> 00:16:40,780 And at that time, 399 00:16:40,870 --> 00:16:43,660 I didn't know what I was just trying to spend my 400 00:16:43,660 --> 00:16:44,800 day with my mind, 401 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:46,750 keeping my mind stimulated. 402 00:16:46,750 --> 00:16:50,020 So I wouldn't think about my condition because I just didn't 403 00:16:50,020 --> 00:16:51,040 want to be disabled. 404 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:52,810 Right. Like your condition. 405 00:16:52,930 --> 00:16:55,480 But you were also lonely cause everyone was off doing their 406 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:56,350 days. Yeah. 407 00:16:56,380 --> 00:16:59,890 Yeah. And I couldn't go nowhere until somebody came that was 408 00:16:59,890 --> 00:17:01,390 like reality hit. 409 00:17:01,390 --> 00:17:03,700 Like, this is what I do for people. 410 00:17:03,850 --> 00:17:06,700 Now. I got people coming over here doing this for me. 411 00:17:06,730 --> 00:17:09,220 This is not how it is supposed to be. 412 00:17:09,460 --> 00:17:12,940 So it was a depressed state of my life. 413 00:17:13,660 --> 00:17:16,180 And at that time I had a friend of mine, 414 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:16,570 a guy, 415 00:17:16,570 --> 00:17:19,090 friend of mine and he left. 416 00:17:20,170 --> 00:17:20,800 That was it. 417 00:17:20,830 --> 00:17:21,910 So I was like, 418 00:17:22,300 --> 00:17:23,560 well Lord, 419 00:17:23,710 --> 00:17:24,670 what am I going to do? 420 00:17:24,940 --> 00:17:26,620 What is it that you want me to do? 421 00:17:26,980 --> 00:17:29,950 So this is what I'm having a conversation every day. 422 00:17:29,950 --> 00:17:31,030 Like I'm here. 423 00:17:31,060 --> 00:17:33,010 You saved me to be here at the, 424 00:17:33,010 --> 00:17:33,730 all it is. 425 00:17:34,060 --> 00:17:35,830 What is it that you want me to do? 426 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,440 So I got into Facebook. 427 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:39,370 Someone asked me, 428 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,710 Oh, they liked what I had posted. 429 00:17:41,740 --> 00:17:43,930 They wanted to know how could they learn? 430 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:49,060 And I just got into Facebook doing different photos posting. 431 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:51,570 And then I found Periscope. 432 00:17:51,870 --> 00:17:53,280 I was introduced to Periscope, 433 00:17:53,370 --> 00:17:54,390 chat on Periscope. 434 00:17:54,390 --> 00:17:56,220 And all I did was show how, 435 00:17:56,580 --> 00:17:58,320 and this is after I done, 436 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,020 went through my therapy and stuff like that, 437 00:18:01,050 --> 00:18:04,170 the tumor was connected to my kidneys and my bladder. 438 00:18:04,530 --> 00:18:07,440 So I had to go to therapy and they had to 439 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,000 make sure everything was good. 440 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,070 But as I made it through all of that, 441 00:18:11,130 --> 00:18:17,250 I just started to be more in tune with people that 442 00:18:17,250 --> 00:18:20,640 had the same liking of the art. 443 00:18:20,910 --> 00:18:21,390 And I'm like, 444 00:18:21,420 --> 00:18:22,710 Oh, it's all another world. 445 00:18:22,770 --> 00:18:25,410 I was realized it's a whole nother world over here. 446 00:18:26,310 --> 00:18:29,130 Yeah. So at that depressed state of my life, 447 00:18:29,250 --> 00:18:33,270 I realized I had a gift that needed to be shared 448 00:18:33,450 --> 00:18:37,710 to other people because when I got on Periscope and hearing 449 00:18:37,710 --> 00:18:41,880 the stories or reading people's stories or people inboxing me telling 450 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:42,720 me, Oh my God, 451 00:18:42,780 --> 00:18:48,360 I told my testimony through Periscope and people just started coming 452 00:18:48,360 --> 00:18:50,460 off from all walks of life. 453 00:18:52,050 --> 00:18:52,440 I'm like, 454 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,810 okay, there's something here. 455 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,710 Yeah. So when you Periscope, 456 00:18:57,860 --> 00:18:59,570 where you demoing, 457 00:18:59,570 --> 00:19:01,670 how you made some of the sugar art, 458 00:19:01,700 --> 00:19:03,620 is that what your content was? 459 00:19:04,430 --> 00:19:07,190 Yep. So did You have a regular show where you showed 460 00:19:07,190 --> 00:19:09,860 up a certain day of the week or in time of 461 00:19:09,860 --> 00:19:11,000 the day and all that? 462 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,790 So people knew to look for you or was it that 463 00:19:13,790 --> 00:19:16,790 people just happened to find you if they were scrolling Periscope? 464 00:19:17,630 --> 00:19:20,630 Well, at first I would just jump on and just start 465 00:19:20,750 --> 00:19:24,350 doing different things and just record myself. 466 00:19:24,470 --> 00:19:27,170 And then when I seen that I had a following, 467 00:19:27,350 --> 00:19:30,920 then I created a group called divine bacon divas. 468 00:19:31,550 --> 00:19:33,200 And that now holds, 469 00:19:33,260 --> 00:19:35,450 that was one of the group that everybody wanted to get 470 00:19:35,450 --> 00:19:38,750 into, which DVD stands for divine bacon, 471 00:19:38,750 --> 00:19:40,670 diva and divas, 472 00:19:40,670 --> 00:19:44,000 meaning divinely and spired, 473 00:19:44,450 --> 00:19:47,060 but victorious and always serving, 474 00:19:47,330 --> 00:19:48,470 Oh, I love that. 475 00:19:48,860 --> 00:19:52,640 Yeah. Not just serving treats or cakes, 476 00:19:52,670 --> 00:19:56,870 but we're serving to the community and others to continue to 477 00:19:56,870 --> 00:19:59,120 be inspired as a sisterhood. 478 00:19:59,510 --> 00:20:04,370 So I created that group and that's when I started with 479 00:20:04,550 --> 00:20:07,700 looking to see who would be a part and their free 480 00:20:07,700 --> 00:20:10,250 time helped me to grow the group. 481 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,780 And I met some wonderful ladies. 482 00:20:13,780 --> 00:20:15,020 Some came, 483 00:20:15,020 --> 00:20:15,800 some went, 484 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:20,090 but there are some that still they're holding it down till 485 00:20:20,090 --> 00:20:20,780 this day. 486 00:20:21,380 --> 00:20:23,240 So divine baking divas. 487 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,450 Is that Periscope specific or is it a Facebook group or 488 00:20:26,460 --> 00:20:27,770 what is that group now? 489 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:29,120 It's a Facebook group. 490 00:20:29,300 --> 00:20:30,230 It's a Facebook group. 491 00:20:30,410 --> 00:20:33,050 Okay. So that's what I was scheduled. 492 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:34,730 Like make an announcement. 493 00:20:34,790 --> 00:20:36,560 Hey, I'm doing this on Periscope. 494 00:20:36,620 --> 00:20:37,340 Join me. 495 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,340 And that's when my following just started to grow. 496 00:20:40,670 --> 00:20:41,630 Okay. Gotcha. 497 00:20:41,780 --> 00:20:44,360 And at this point, 498 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:48,130 were you monetizing anything or you were just what you knew 499 00:20:48,190 --> 00:20:50,140 and your skill you were teaching, 500 00:20:50,140 --> 00:20:52,210 but you weren't getting paid for any of that. 501 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:54,430 Yeah. I wouldn't monetize it at all. 502 00:20:54,580 --> 00:20:57,340 But What you were doing at that point is validating that 503 00:20:57,340 --> 00:21:00,310 there was a ton of interest out there to learn from 504 00:21:00,310 --> 00:21:01,750 you and to know what, 505 00:21:01,750 --> 00:21:02,110 you know. 506 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,290 Yeah. I was still letting the community, 507 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:05,970 I had to figure out like, 508 00:21:05,970 --> 00:21:07,020 what's really going on. 509 00:21:07,020 --> 00:21:07,710 You know what I'm saying? 510 00:21:07,710 --> 00:21:08,280 It's so, 511 00:21:08,610 --> 00:21:12,450 and the Facebook group grew and we still have 3000 over 512 00:21:12,450 --> 00:21:13,770 3000 people in the group. 513 00:21:14,130 --> 00:21:14,940 It was like, 514 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,100 we got to like six to 8,000 515 00:21:17,100 --> 00:21:18,270 people waiting to get in. 516 00:21:18,630 --> 00:21:22,500 And I made it private because the foundation that I was 517 00:21:22,500 --> 00:21:24,900 laying on in this group, 518 00:21:24,900 --> 00:21:27,090 we're going to do everything I'm teaching for free. 519 00:21:27,390 --> 00:21:29,040 And this is what I'm displaying. 520 00:21:29,310 --> 00:21:34,770 So I wanted people to have the freedom of advertising or 521 00:21:34,770 --> 00:21:40,230 showing their work because what I've learned then when nobody share 522 00:21:40,290 --> 00:21:40,860 and I'm like, 523 00:21:40,890 --> 00:21:43,310 well, I'm just a vessel being used. 524 00:21:43,310 --> 00:21:45,480 Cause we be going through that process of what I went 525 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,100 through at that time, 526 00:21:47,100 --> 00:21:49,290 I felt I should do this freely. 527 00:21:49,380 --> 00:21:51,900 And I still give a lot of free information, 528 00:21:51,900 --> 00:21:55,650 but now that it's more structured and I'm doing things as 529 00:21:55,650 --> 00:21:58,680 a business and at that time it wasn't a business for 530 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:02,040 me. It was just sharing what I know what I learned 531 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:03,150 and I'm self-taught. 532 00:22:03,750 --> 00:22:04,350 Yeah. Well, 533 00:22:04,350 --> 00:22:06,870 I love that because that will relate to a lot of 534 00:22:06,870 --> 00:22:07,500 our listeners. 535 00:22:07,500 --> 00:22:08,040 Right. Because, 536 00:22:08,100 --> 00:22:11,130 and a lot of people I know who listen, 537 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:15,690 feel like maybe if they didn't have education behind their craft, 538 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,990 that it's not worth charging for all know, 539 00:22:19,110 --> 00:22:21,360 like they've never had to learn the skill, 540 00:22:21,390 --> 00:22:24,240 even though they naturally have the skill or to your point 541 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:25,140 are self-taught. 542 00:22:25,470 --> 00:22:27,120 But so let's continue with your story. 543 00:22:27,390 --> 00:22:28,770 So how, 544 00:22:28,830 --> 00:22:32,550 where at what point did the transition come in of you 545 00:22:32,580 --> 00:22:35,070 starting to form a real business? 546 00:22:35,970 --> 00:22:38,520 I would say in 2015. 547 00:22:39,300 --> 00:22:40,410 So within a year, 548 00:22:41,310 --> 00:22:42,240 within a year, 549 00:22:42,570 --> 00:22:46,890 because I was getting so many requests and at the time 550 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,140 I still had my homes, 551 00:22:49,140 --> 00:22:50,460 but I had lost four, 552 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:51,420 had eight. 553 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:52,740 Now I had lost four. 554 00:22:52,740 --> 00:22:53,760 I had to shut them down. 555 00:22:54,120 --> 00:22:55,380 So in this process, 556 00:22:55,380 --> 00:22:58,320 I'm still going through my issues, 557 00:22:58,350 --> 00:22:59,700 which nobody knows. 558 00:22:59,700 --> 00:23:00,990 And I'm writing a book about it, 559 00:23:01,110 --> 00:23:01,950 then wrote a book. 560 00:23:01,950 --> 00:23:03,180 I just got to finish it. 561 00:23:03,540 --> 00:23:04,470 But in my book, 562 00:23:04,470 --> 00:23:08,610 I talk about this process because after all of that, 563 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,800 I'm still here and I got a whole nother business and 564 00:23:12,830 --> 00:23:14,160 not saying that I didn't love it, 565 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,460 but I love this is just where I should be. 566 00:23:18,030 --> 00:23:20,730 Well, there's nothing to say that at that time in your 567 00:23:20,730 --> 00:23:21,960 life and in the world, 568 00:23:21,990 --> 00:23:24,360 that was what you were supposed to be doing. 569 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:26,400 He has some differences. 570 00:23:26,550 --> 00:23:27,690 Yeah. Now At this point, 571 00:23:27,690 --> 00:23:29,010 this is what you should be doing. 572 00:23:29,010 --> 00:23:30,330 So what steps, 573 00:23:30,330 --> 00:23:33,330 like tell us in more of a concrete way, 574 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,360 how did you start building a business? 575 00:23:36,450 --> 00:23:39,450 Did you decide then that you were going to create the 576 00:23:39,450 --> 00:23:40,680 name of your business? 577 00:23:40,860 --> 00:23:41,730 What did you do? 578 00:23:42,120 --> 00:23:43,890 When I created the vine back in Davis, 579 00:23:43,890 --> 00:23:46,010 I had to file paperwork. 580 00:23:46,010 --> 00:23:49,550 Cause at that point it became a business for what I 581 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,190 wanted to see form out of it. 582 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,190 So we started serving to the community, 583 00:23:55,700 --> 00:23:58,370 me and another ambassador of mine. 584 00:23:58,580 --> 00:23:59,780 Her name is Tijuana, 585 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:07,190 she's still ambassador and LaDonna and we did Easter basket drive. 586 00:24:07,550 --> 00:24:09,580 So I knew if I was going to be out in 587 00:24:09,620 --> 00:24:10,190 the community, 588 00:24:10,190 --> 00:24:14,030 I had to pad my name and get started in that 589 00:24:14,030 --> 00:24:18,680 process. I was setting up to do shows like to have 590 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,810 people come out and just show they work. 591 00:24:21,410 --> 00:24:22,310 You know what I'm saying? 592 00:24:22,340 --> 00:24:24,410 And just make money off of it. 593 00:24:24,470 --> 00:24:27,200 But I started doing my own workshops, 594 00:24:27,530 --> 00:24:29,090 traveling to different States, 595 00:24:29,180 --> 00:24:30,680 doing my own workshops. 596 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,770 I did a tour and just did candy. 597 00:24:33,770 --> 00:24:34,460 I did treat, 598 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:35,780 it was just a treat tour. 599 00:24:36,230 --> 00:24:37,520 And I did candy, 600 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,140 apples, strawberries, 601 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:43,550 rice, Krispie treats is whatever everyone was really into. 602 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,600 And I did a whole treat package and I made that 603 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:48,260 a workshop. 604 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:53,800 So These were face-to-face workshops where they connected with a trade 605 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,200 show or were they just your own workshops? 606 00:24:56,620 --> 00:24:58,420 No, they were at my own workshops. 607 00:24:58,540 --> 00:25:02,260 I didn't get into trade shows until that following year. 608 00:25:02,410 --> 00:25:02,740 All right. 609 00:25:02,740 --> 00:25:05,860 So you went around to probably where people were, 610 00:25:05,860 --> 00:25:08,470 who were part of the divine baking DeVos, 611 00:25:08,740 --> 00:25:09,400 I'm guessing. 612 00:25:09,730 --> 00:25:12,970 And then we're doing live workshops and that's the first way 613 00:25:12,970 --> 00:25:15,040 you monetized teaching what you knew. 614 00:25:16,450 --> 00:25:17,680 Okay. Love it. 615 00:25:17,830 --> 00:25:19,780 And so how big were those classes? 616 00:25:20,380 --> 00:25:21,820 Between 25 to 30. 617 00:25:22,330 --> 00:25:23,500 So nice size. 618 00:25:23,650 --> 00:25:24,610 Not too big, 619 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:25,960 but not too small either. 620 00:25:26,170 --> 00:25:29,290 Yeah. Not too small where you weren't making money on them, 621 00:25:29,290 --> 00:25:31,750 but not too big where people didn't felt like they didn't 622 00:25:31,750 --> 00:25:33,010 get any of the attention. 623 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,280 Yeah. And I think the first class I had 20 people 624 00:25:36,670 --> 00:25:38,530 and then when they seen network, 625 00:25:38,590 --> 00:25:39,310 they work, 626 00:25:39,730 --> 00:25:41,770 then more people wanted to come and I'm like, 627 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:42,580 Oh my God. 628 00:25:42,910 --> 00:25:45,130 So I took a whole summer, 629 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:49,120 did a whole summer tour and I did it every year. 630 00:25:49,510 --> 00:25:53,290 And I traveled from that time until now I traveled over 631 00:25:53,290 --> 00:25:54,040 20 States. 632 00:25:54,370 --> 00:25:56,410 Wow. That's amazing. 633 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:57,850 You have that going. 634 00:25:57,850 --> 00:26:01,300 And were you doing that up until last year when everything 635 00:26:01,300 --> 00:26:02,020 got shut down? 636 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:03,460 Yeah. It got different. 637 00:26:03,460 --> 00:26:04,630 Cause that at that point, 638 00:26:04,630 --> 00:26:06,400 when they started to hear about me, 639 00:26:06,550 --> 00:26:08,410 they wanted me to come to their shows, 640 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:09,910 right? With this girl, 641 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,560 I was doing my own workshops. 642 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:16,900 So I would be invited to do different shows and I 643 00:26:16,900 --> 00:26:19,570 did a meet and greet with divine bacon divas. 644 00:26:19,630 --> 00:26:21,460 And when I did the meet and greet, 645 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:22,360 it was in Atlanta, 646 00:26:22,390 --> 00:26:24,820 the first one was in Atlanta and we would do it 647 00:26:24,850 --> 00:26:26,410 every other year. 648 00:26:26,890 --> 00:26:29,080 And it was just from that community, 649 00:26:29,350 --> 00:26:30,250 divine bacon, 650 00:26:30,250 --> 00:26:31,330 Dave, the sisterhood. 651 00:26:31,750 --> 00:26:33,550 And over the period of time, 652 00:26:33,550 --> 00:26:36,100 I had to realize it's just more than us now. 653 00:26:36,100 --> 00:26:37,210 I have helped and, 654 00:26:37,300 --> 00:26:38,980 and build these ladies up. 655 00:26:38,980 --> 00:26:40,060 Those that need help. 656 00:26:40,510 --> 00:26:43,060 And it's time for me to take it for me, 657 00:26:43,170 --> 00:26:43,890 step out. 658 00:26:44,220 --> 00:26:47,360 So that's where from the vine baking divas, 659 00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:51,870 since I was creating and building my platform and getting myself 660 00:26:51,900 --> 00:26:52,710 out there, 661 00:26:53,220 --> 00:26:55,260 I knew I had to do more. 662 00:26:55,710 --> 00:26:57,480 And so I would tell Towanna, 663 00:26:57,540 --> 00:26:59,250 or LaDanna like, 664 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,010 I need to step out and I'm coaching to them. 665 00:27:02,190 --> 00:27:03,060 Y'all do too. 666 00:27:03,120 --> 00:27:05,760 It's more than just these four walls. 667 00:27:05,790 --> 00:27:08,040 I feel like we in the four walls and that's not 668 00:27:08,100 --> 00:27:10,620 where we should be in order to grow, 669 00:27:10,860 --> 00:27:12,540 we have to step outside of the box. 670 00:27:12,870 --> 00:27:15,780 And I feel like now we are inside of the box. 671 00:27:16,110 --> 00:27:18,120 And So what was the action to step out of the 672 00:27:18,120 --> 00:27:20,310 box, Create another brand, 673 00:27:20,310 --> 00:27:23,970 another Institute which produced your sweet connection. 674 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:29,210 So the divine baking divas is still more of an exclusive 675 00:27:29,210 --> 00:27:34,010 community. And then how is your sweet connection? 676 00:27:34,010 --> 00:27:36,200 Different? They have some similarities, 677 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,710 but your sweet connection is more because I did so much 678 00:27:39,950 --> 00:27:40,760 in there freely. 679 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,670 I didn't want to feel like I wanted to take from 680 00:27:43,670 --> 00:27:48,470 that. I still wanted to be as that non-profit so it's 681 00:27:48,470 --> 00:27:49,520 not for profit. 682 00:27:50,030 --> 00:27:50,810 You know what I'm saying? 683 00:27:50,810 --> 00:27:55,070 So, which your sweet connection is the whole brand, 684 00:27:55,340 --> 00:28:00,350 a whole corporation where from other businesses that can come from 685 00:28:00,350 --> 00:28:01,040 up under that, 686 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,460 like YSU supplies shop the VIP, 687 00:28:04,460 --> 00:28:06,830 the YFC VIP Academy, 688 00:28:06,830 --> 00:28:08,120 which is online. 689 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,610 And I just created, 690 00:28:10,610 --> 00:28:15,890 I'm still waiting on the paperwork YFC care foundation non-profit foundation 691 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,810 to help the less fortunate, 692 00:28:17,870 --> 00:28:19,250 those that are at need, 693 00:28:19,340 --> 00:28:23,420 any Baker that may be striving and trying to come up 694 00:28:23,450 --> 00:28:24,320 and need help. 695 00:28:24,890 --> 00:28:27,560 So maybe offering scholarships or things like that. 696 00:28:27,860 --> 00:28:30,800 Yes. The vision currently, 697 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,990 some of this is still getting established and some of this 698 00:28:32,990 --> 00:28:36,380 is already in existence under your suite. 699 00:28:36,380 --> 00:28:38,780 Connection is the supply shop, 700 00:28:38,780 --> 00:28:40,520 which is your e-commerce location. 701 00:28:40,550 --> 00:28:43,340 Right. I want to get into that an Academy, 702 00:28:43,340 --> 00:28:46,670 which is a training center and then your care portion, 703 00:28:46,670 --> 00:28:48,770 which is the giving back and the nonprofit. 704 00:28:49,370 --> 00:28:50,570 Yep. Beautiful. 705 00:28:50,570 --> 00:28:52,070 I love that so much. 706 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:53,000 Thank you. 707 00:28:53,030 --> 00:28:55,880 Let's talk about the supply shop. 708 00:28:55,910 --> 00:28:58,580 How did you decide to get into that? 709 00:28:58,580 --> 00:29:00,350 And tell us a little bit more about that. 710 00:29:03,770 --> 00:29:07,010 More of a shell story coming up right after this quick 711 00:29:07,010 --> 00:29:08,810 break. Yes. 712 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,710 It's possible increase your sales without adding a single customer. 713 00:29:12,950 --> 00:29:16,370 How you ask by offering personalization with your products, 714 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,790 wrap a cake box with a ribbon saying happy 30th birthday, 715 00:29:19,790 --> 00:29:23,240 Annie, or at a special message and date to wedding or 716 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,700 party favors for an extra meaningful touch. 717 00:29:25,820 --> 00:29:29,060 Where else can you get customization with a creatively spelled name 718 00:29:29,060 --> 00:29:29,990 or find packaging? 719 00:29:29,990 --> 00:29:32,480 That includes a saying whose meaning is known to a select 720 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,150 to not only our customers willing to pay for these special 721 00:29:35,150 --> 00:29:38,360 touches. They'll tell their friends and word will spread about your 722 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:39,650 company and products. 723 00:29:39,860 --> 00:29:43,210 You can create ribbons and labels in seconds, 724 00:29:43,330 --> 00:29:46,630 make just one or thousands without waiting weeks or having to 725 00:29:46,630 --> 00:29:49,900 spend money to order yards and yards print words in any 726 00:29:49,900 --> 00:29:50,890 language or font, 727 00:29:51,100 --> 00:29:51,850 add logos, 728 00:29:51,970 --> 00:29:53,710 images, even photos, 729 00:29:53,980 --> 00:29:56,920 perfect for branding or adding ingredient and flavor labels. 730 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,630 To for more information, 731 00:29:58,630 --> 00:30:00,760 go to the ribbon print company.com. 732 00:30:01,390 --> 00:30:05,130 Well, I go to all these different shows and being asked 733 00:30:05,130 --> 00:30:07,680 to be a brand ambassador for this company, 734 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:08,910 for that company. 735 00:30:09,150 --> 00:30:12,630 I began to be a brand ambassador for seven different companies. 736 00:30:13,020 --> 00:30:16,500 What does it mean when you become a brand ambassador you're 737 00:30:16,620 --> 00:30:22,290 displaying or promoting someone else's product or just being a face 738 00:30:22,380 --> 00:30:26,550 to their brand for that company to bring in sales or 739 00:30:26,550 --> 00:30:28,770 show the use of a product that is good. 740 00:30:28,830 --> 00:30:31,650 And I'll only be a part of those that I really 741 00:30:31,650 --> 00:30:32,250 do like, 742 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,590 and that is good. 743 00:30:34,650 --> 00:30:35,430 That works. 744 00:30:36,630 --> 00:30:37,920 How did that come about? 745 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,920 Is it because they saw that you were using their product 746 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,940 already? So I'm saying that I was using their product and 747 00:30:44,940 --> 00:30:46,860 then they would email me and say, 748 00:30:46,860 --> 00:30:48,750 Hey, we want you to try this. 749 00:30:49,050 --> 00:30:50,970 And a lot of the times, 750 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,930 if it wasn't something that I have never used and I'm 751 00:30:54,930 --> 00:30:58,350 open, but if I don't like it and I don't think 752 00:30:58,350 --> 00:30:59,250 it's going to work, 753 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:00,930 then I don't even mention it. 754 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:02,220 And plus, 755 00:31:02,340 --> 00:31:04,380 when I started your sweet connection, 756 00:31:04,620 --> 00:31:05,850 I started doing YouTube. 757 00:31:06,270 --> 00:31:10,320 So I get a lot of sponsor and brand deals from 758 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:11,370 YouTube as well. 759 00:31:12,210 --> 00:31:15,030 So they just email or they just act. 760 00:31:15,930 --> 00:31:18,060 Okay. And then do you have to sign a contract or 761 00:31:18,060 --> 00:31:21,720 something? Or how does that work With some companies? 762 00:31:21,750 --> 00:31:26,220 Yes. So they would just send free products for me to 763 00:31:26,250 --> 00:31:29,820 try out and just do the content from my social media 764 00:31:29,820 --> 00:31:32,040 platform. And just go from there. 765 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,440 I do get monetized. 766 00:31:34,710 --> 00:31:39,930 I get compensated for whatever I display or whatever I do. 767 00:31:40,410 --> 00:31:42,360 So like an affiliate type program. 768 00:31:42,930 --> 00:31:44,520 Right. Got it. 769 00:31:44,580 --> 00:31:46,980 Okay. So this is, 770 00:31:46,980 --> 00:31:50,010 what started you thinking about the supply shop? 771 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:50,850 The e-commerce shop? 772 00:31:52,590 --> 00:31:55,080 Yep. I wanted my own baking line. 773 00:31:55,380 --> 00:31:56,940 Ooh. Yeah. 774 00:31:56,940 --> 00:32:01,710 Wilton's had promised me my own line with them and it's 775 00:32:01,710 --> 00:32:03,930 cause I had started doing YouTube and they sent me some 776 00:32:03,930 --> 00:32:04,680 stuff and I was, 777 00:32:04,690 --> 00:32:06,390 I was created the content, 778 00:32:06,630 --> 00:32:07,770 but it never happened. 779 00:32:07,860 --> 00:32:09,740 So I was disappointed. 780 00:32:09,750 --> 00:32:12,390 Cause by I put out a lot of content on YouTube. 781 00:32:12,870 --> 00:32:16,170 You put out A lot of content on YouTube using their 782 00:32:16,170 --> 00:32:21,300 product with the understanding that your name or somehow those products. 783 00:32:21,300 --> 00:32:23,490 At some point we're going to be a product that people 784 00:32:23,490 --> 00:32:25,140 could buy through Wilton, 785 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:26,850 but be branded you. 786 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,670 Right. Because my following, 787 00:32:29,670 --> 00:32:31,290 if I show or display it, 788 00:32:31,710 --> 00:32:32,490 they're going to buy it. 789 00:32:32,850 --> 00:32:36,630 Right. And that's where a lot of other companies will come 790 00:32:36,630 --> 00:32:38,270 to me because I wouldn't refer. 791 00:32:38,290 --> 00:32:38,700 I'm like, 792 00:32:38,700 --> 00:32:39,830 Hey you to go down, 793 00:32:40,100 --> 00:32:41,060 check out this shop, 794 00:32:41,090 --> 00:32:44,060 check out this shop because if it's good, 795 00:32:44,150 --> 00:32:48,470 I'm going to recommend my students or whoever to go and 796 00:32:48,530 --> 00:32:49,850 purchase or try it out. 797 00:32:50,060 --> 00:32:51,200 So I didn't get it. 798 00:32:51,410 --> 00:32:53,210 And at that point I said, 799 00:32:53,210 --> 00:32:53,900 you know what? 800 00:32:54,290 --> 00:32:54,650 I know, 801 00:32:54,650 --> 00:32:56,120 it's a way I can get my arm. 802 00:32:56,540 --> 00:32:59,900 But I started researching before I even jumped into even getting 803 00:32:59,900 --> 00:33:01,160 my own brand line. 804 00:33:01,910 --> 00:33:05,000 And I sat on it for about a year and a 805 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,830 half. And I'm like, 806 00:33:07,460 --> 00:33:08,480 am I prepared? 807 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:09,860 This is where the fear comes in. 808 00:33:11,180 --> 00:33:12,650 Right. So I'm like, 809 00:33:12,650 --> 00:33:13,940 am I stuck here for this? 810 00:33:13,940 --> 00:33:16,490 Cause soon as I put something out, 811 00:33:16,580 --> 00:33:17,570 they want to know. 812 00:33:18,050 --> 00:33:19,610 So when I did put it out, 813 00:33:19,730 --> 00:33:20,510 Oh my God, 814 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,150 I had almost 800 orders. 815 00:33:23,300 --> 00:33:24,860 And that was just a silicone mat. 816 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:30,290 I had got silicone mats and I was working on other 817 00:33:30,290 --> 00:33:32,270 items. And then I said, 818 00:33:32,270 --> 00:33:33,830 okay, I need a supply chain. 819 00:33:34,510 --> 00:33:36,580 Okay. So time to back it up, 820 00:33:37,780 --> 00:33:38,860 back it up. 821 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,350 Okay. So having your own mind, 822 00:33:41,350 --> 00:33:42,490 that sounds awesome. 823 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,810 How do you get products to be in your own line? 824 00:33:46,810 --> 00:33:49,510 Because you're not recreating a product, 825 00:33:49,540 --> 00:33:52,450 right? You're not like remaking a product that's different from other 826 00:33:52,450 --> 00:33:53,650 products or like, 827 00:33:53,830 --> 00:33:55,000 or are you like, 828 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,430 how do you get your products and get your name on 829 00:33:57,430 --> 00:34:00,010 products and make it into a shop? 830 00:34:02,170 --> 00:34:03,370 That's a big question. 831 00:34:04,390 --> 00:34:05,560 I had a class for that. 832 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,540 Oh, you're so funny. 833 00:34:10,780 --> 00:34:13,300 Okay. So just give us a little summary, 834 00:34:13,300 --> 00:34:14,050 just a teaser. 835 00:34:14,050 --> 00:34:15,610 You don't have to tell us all the details. 836 00:34:15,610 --> 00:34:17,650 Obviously people need to take your class if they want to 837 00:34:17,650 --> 00:34:18,100 go that route. 838 00:34:18,970 --> 00:34:22,690 No. You find a manufacturer that is okay. 839 00:34:22,690 --> 00:34:25,360 Say pair rate glass. 840 00:34:26,050 --> 00:34:27,670 So I use chocolate. 841 00:34:27,700 --> 00:34:30,550 So my signature thing on melting candy, 842 00:34:30,550 --> 00:34:33,880 wafer chocolate wafer is in a of glass. 843 00:34:34,390 --> 00:34:35,860 Now, if I wanted my own, 844 00:34:35,860 --> 00:34:39,490 which I've been working on that for some years now I 845 00:34:39,700 --> 00:34:40,300 got one, 846 00:34:40,300 --> 00:34:41,980 but I don't like the quality of it. 847 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:46,930 So I'm still in search of finding a new manufacturer that 848 00:34:46,930 --> 00:34:50,530 will provide that good quality of glass. 849 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:57,250 So you find a manufacturer or supplier that will produce or 850 00:34:57,250 --> 00:35:01,300 create item that is fitting for your brand, 851 00:35:01,300 --> 00:35:02,110 your company, 852 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,530 or if that's something that's signature that you use. 853 00:35:05,530 --> 00:35:07,510 And some people may want. 854 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,200 And I'm trying to ask, 855 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,530 this is according to me Without telling the secrets. 856 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:18,190 Okay. So you find a place to manufacture your product and 857 00:35:18,190 --> 00:35:21,010 then you work with the manufacturer to get it the way 858 00:35:21,010 --> 00:35:22,570 you would like it to be. 859 00:35:23,140 --> 00:35:24,370 Right? Exactly. 860 00:35:24,670 --> 00:35:28,420 So what types of products do you have in the supplies 861 00:35:28,420 --> 00:35:29,200 shop Now? 862 00:35:29,590 --> 00:35:32,470 That's my own brand or your own brand? 863 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,090 My silicone mats, 864 00:35:34,810 --> 00:35:36,730 my mixing spoons. 865 00:35:37,020 --> 00:35:38,550 I have some measuring cups, 866 00:35:38,580 --> 00:35:39,810 but they're not out yet. 867 00:35:40,290 --> 00:35:42,120 Ooh. So you're tempting our listeners, 868 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,490 Rochelle. Oh yeah. 869 00:35:44,490 --> 00:35:45,870 You can have your own product lines. 870 00:35:46,260 --> 00:35:47,460 I had a pot, 871 00:35:47,910 --> 00:35:53,670 but this pot and this particular item was an issue because 872 00:35:53,700 --> 00:35:59,040 it was being manufactured from China and the weight of it 873 00:35:59,340 --> 00:36:02,430 was an issue and it got held up at customs for 874 00:36:02,430 --> 00:36:03,570 a whole year. 875 00:36:03,990 --> 00:36:06,510 So it caused a whole issue. 876 00:36:06,750 --> 00:36:09,390 And at that point I had to tell them, 877 00:36:09,510 --> 00:36:11,430 okay, and at that time, 878 00:36:11,460 --> 00:36:15,090 I didn't know what could have held up that shipment, 879 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:19,620 but anything that's coming from China will cause an issue. 880 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:25,530 If something in that package detects something file or files. 881 00:36:25,740 --> 00:36:26,160 I mean, 882 00:36:26,430 --> 00:36:30,420 something, it can be just as small as a bee or 883 00:36:30,420 --> 00:36:31,950 something could be in the package. 884 00:36:31,950 --> 00:36:34,980 If something is not right with the package is not going 885 00:36:34,980 --> 00:36:36,860 to come over to the United States. 886 00:36:36,890 --> 00:36:37,670 Yeah. I know that. 887 00:36:37,670 --> 00:36:38,540 I import from China. 888 00:36:38,570 --> 00:36:39,980 I have my own product also. 889 00:36:40,460 --> 00:36:42,470 Okay. And come in from China. 890 00:36:42,470 --> 00:36:43,850 I know all that story, 891 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:44,990 but my question is, 892 00:36:44,990 --> 00:36:47,210 so you have a lot of different types of products in 893 00:36:47,210 --> 00:36:48,230 your supply shop. 894 00:36:48,500 --> 00:36:50,780 Are they all from different factories? 895 00:36:51,350 --> 00:36:52,460 Yes. Okay. 896 00:36:52,460 --> 00:36:55,790 So that's a whole organization thing onto itself too. 897 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:58,760 Yes. Different vendors. 898 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:00,310 Okay. So you've got that. 899 00:37:00,770 --> 00:37:04,280 And then you also have you're selling products that are made 900 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:04,910 by others. 901 00:37:05,190 --> 00:37:06,590 They're you just endorse them. 902 00:37:06,590 --> 00:37:07,910 So you've put them in your shop. 903 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:09,410 You're getting them wholesale. 904 00:37:09,410 --> 00:37:10,040 I'm guessing. 905 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,240 And then selling them out. 906 00:37:11,630 --> 00:37:12,650 Yes, that's correct. 907 00:37:13,010 --> 00:37:16,190 Okay. And where Is all of that functioning from? 908 00:37:16,490 --> 00:37:19,670 Do you get the product over to you and then you 909 00:37:19,670 --> 00:37:23,630 fulfill all the orders physically in some location around you? 910 00:37:24,590 --> 00:37:27,140 Yeah. I have everything shipped to me. 911 00:37:27,380 --> 00:37:33,350 Everything is delivered to me and I repackage from whatever wholesaler, 912 00:37:33,890 --> 00:37:38,090 whether it's from chocolate Merkin's I can even open the whole 913 00:37:38,420 --> 00:37:39,290 candy shop. 914 00:37:39,860 --> 00:37:40,880 So I tell you, 915 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,370 I was telling my students that I just don't know. 916 00:37:43,790 --> 00:37:46,520 They so excited because I do have a brick and mortar 917 00:37:46,820 --> 00:37:49,250 and an e-commerce class online. 918 00:37:49,850 --> 00:37:54,560 But the vendors that I am working with will help provide 919 00:37:54,950 --> 00:37:58,130 a million dollar business if they do it. 920 00:37:58,130 --> 00:38:01,670 Right. That's amazing if they do it right. 921 00:38:01,790 --> 00:38:02,570 If they do it. 922 00:38:02,570 --> 00:38:06,380 Right. And the reason why I say that is because if 923 00:38:06,380 --> 00:38:10,430 you just throw out some numbers and a scenario, 924 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,620 and this is how I did my research, 925 00:38:12,620 --> 00:38:14,360 because before the pandemic, 926 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,160 I was heading to Atlanta, 927 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,280 which I still am to open up a shop and you 928 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,730 know, I got some supplies still there and I was going 929 00:38:22,730 --> 00:38:25,640 to connect with cooking up. 930 00:38:26,540 --> 00:38:27,590 Yeah. Michelle, 931 00:38:27,610 --> 00:38:29,240 Michelle has been on the show too. 932 00:38:31,220 --> 00:38:32,780 Yeah. Yeah. 933 00:38:32,810 --> 00:38:33,950 Mark and Michelle. 934 00:38:33,980 --> 00:38:35,980 Yeah. That's my girl. 935 00:38:36,340 --> 00:38:38,530 I want to say something really quick here to everyone who's 936 00:38:38,530 --> 00:38:40,390 listening. So gift biz listeners. 937 00:38:40,420 --> 00:38:42,490 When we talk about collaborations, 938 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,560 listen, as Rochelle keeps talking, 939 00:38:44,590 --> 00:38:46,780 this is a perfect example of a collaboration. 940 00:38:49,380 --> 00:38:51,720 She was going to build this huge. 941 00:38:51,780 --> 00:38:54,550 I don't know if I should be saying this cause not 942 00:38:56,080 --> 00:39:02,070 me, but we were going to collaborate and combine our businesses 943 00:39:02,070 --> 00:39:05,220 and our services and make something master. 944 00:39:05,700 --> 00:39:08,340 I say master elite because it was, 945 00:39:08,490 --> 00:39:12,450 they was going to build a state of the art studio 946 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:16,260 for bakers to come in and teach, 947 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:17,910 do video. 948 00:39:18,330 --> 00:39:20,760 And I was going to have my portion of the shop 949 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,040 in their location. 950 00:39:23,430 --> 00:39:25,380 And I still think it's going to come. 951 00:39:25,980 --> 00:39:27,900 Yeah. Everything was just put on pause. 952 00:39:27,930 --> 00:39:28,380 That's all. 953 00:39:28,830 --> 00:39:31,380 Yeah. So I was headed to Atlanta, 954 00:39:31,410 --> 00:39:33,450 but I tell people all the time, 955 00:39:33,450 --> 00:39:34,950 if you take this scenario, 956 00:39:35,220 --> 00:39:36,330 go somewhere. 957 00:39:36,330 --> 00:39:37,830 And this is where I did my research. 958 00:39:37,830 --> 00:39:40,410 I did my research for even before then. 959 00:39:40,410 --> 00:39:41,760 So like three years ago, 960 00:39:42,330 --> 00:39:44,520 if you take everybody into bacon, 961 00:39:45,270 --> 00:39:48,240 in a location where it's hard and I'm going to say 962 00:39:48,240 --> 00:39:51,240 like North Carolina and Riley, 963 00:39:51,240 --> 00:39:53,670 they don't have too many supply shops. 964 00:39:54,150 --> 00:39:56,400 Right. And I'll use Atlanta for example, 965 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,050 because that's where the research came from. 966 00:39:58,050 --> 00:40:02,610 Cake art is in Atlanta and they liked the only place 967 00:40:02,700 --> 00:40:06,090 that everybody go to in the state of Georgia. 968 00:40:06,090 --> 00:40:07,500 They have other little places, 969 00:40:07,860 --> 00:40:12,300 but everybody go to cake art because they have everything in 970 00:40:12,300 --> 00:40:13,290 there that's needed. 971 00:40:13,290 --> 00:40:14,520 They can walk in and get it, 972 00:40:14,550 --> 00:40:17,700 Mr. The wait on the orders that come through the mail. 973 00:40:17,700 --> 00:40:22,230 Right? So if you have this one shop that everybody's shopping 974 00:40:22,230 --> 00:40:24,120 with, this is a million dollar company, 975 00:40:24,390 --> 00:40:27,510 right? So say for instance, 976 00:40:27,930 --> 00:40:30,570 you have your shop and you put your shop in an 977 00:40:30,570 --> 00:40:34,500 area where everybody is in a neutral zone. 978 00:40:34,830 --> 00:40:36,270 Everybody can come to. 979 00:40:36,630 --> 00:40:40,590 And then now there's another place you're open from Monday through 980 00:40:40,590 --> 00:40:42,360 Friday. Right? 981 00:40:42,690 --> 00:40:43,590 And just say, 982 00:40:43,830 --> 00:40:44,490 for instance, 983 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,040 people like to shop Monday through Friday, 984 00:40:47,460 --> 00:40:52,860 your doors are open and you have 200 customers come in 985 00:40:52,860 --> 00:40:53,160 a day. 986 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,820 So say you have a Saturday, 987 00:40:56,820 --> 00:40:57,750 which is busy. 988 00:40:58,170 --> 00:41:00,420 You got 200 customers come in, 989 00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:02,220 you do your end of the day sale. 990 00:41:02,220 --> 00:41:05,910 You got 200 customers come in out of those 200 customers. 991 00:41:06,210 --> 00:41:08,910 Every one of them spent $200. 992 00:41:09,390 --> 00:41:11,460 Okay, let me get out my calculator here, 993 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,860 everyone don't spend $200. 994 00:41:13,860 --> 00:41:15,750 This is just the example. 995 00:41:16,540 --> 00:41:18,030 You got 200 customers. 996 00:41:18,750 --> 00:41:20,130 That's $40,000 997 00:41:20,820 --> 00:41:21,780 on just that day. 998 00:41:22,620 --> 00:41:26,010 And a Saturday is different than other days Than other days. 999 00:41:26,070 --> 00:41:29,220 And all the days is not going to be the same 1000 00:41:29,220 --> 00:41:30,690 because you got to have your slow days. 1001 00:41:31,110 --> 00:41:32,580 But just the example, 1002 00:41:32,610 --> 00:41:38,390 if you was the only shop in a location and everybody 1003 00:41:38,390 --> 00:41:42,740 go to this particular store Monday through Friday, 1004 00:41:43,130 --> 00:41:46,760 and your traffic is still high throughout the week, 1005 00:41:47,060 --> 00:41:48,680 that's a million dollar business. 1006 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,300 If you getting 40,000 1007 00:41:50,300 --> 00:41:50,720 a day. 1008 00:41:51,020 --> 00:41:53,270 Cause I seen the people spend the money in the supply 1009 00:41:53,270 --> 00:41:54,440 shop, right. 1010 00:41:54,860 --> 00:41:56,720 I spend two to 300, 1011 00:41:56,720 --> 00:41:58,280 but I'm just saying like, 1012 00:41:58,550 --> 00:42:01,460 if you can go into a hobby lobby and they have 1013 00:42:01,460 --> 00:42:03,830 the high traffic and it's just 200 people, 1014 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,140 so which are small business, 1015 00:42:06,140 --> 00:42:09,830 if you get that same type of traffic and you just 1016 00:42:09,830 --> 00:42:11,420 get that in one day, 1017 00:42:11,750 --> 00:42:13,850 just imagine what you're getting through the week. 1018 00:42:14,270 --> 00:42:15,770 And that's just Monday through Friday. 1019 00:42:16,100 --> 00:42:17,750 So if you come in on a Saturday, 1020 00:42:17,750 --> 00:42:20,750 you got more people or if you open seven days a 1021 00:42:20,750 --> 00:42:21,850 week. Yeah. 1022 00:42:21,970 --> 00:42:22,360 For sure. 1023 00:42:22,420 --> 00:42:25,900 And what you're really getting at is you're identifying an opportunity 1024 00:42:25,900 --> 00:42:26,650 in a market. 1025 00:42:26,950 --> 00:42:31,240 You're seeing that there are already people interested and then you're 1026 00:42:31,240 --> 00:42:33,760 coming in and taking a little piece of the pie if 1027 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:34,300 you will. 1028 00:42:34,630 --> 00:42:38,080 And when you have a brand like you've started to develop, 1029 00:42:38,110 --> 00:42:40,930 you have a following and it can really add up. 1030 00:42:41,620 --> 00:42:42,520 Okay. Yeah. 1031 00:42:42,580 --> 00:42:44,260 Now the one thing I just want to say to people 1032 00:42:44,260 --> 00:42:47,110 who are maybe new to the show or new to business, 1033 00:42:47,410 --> 00:42:49,750 Rochelle is talking about a million dollar business. 1034 00:42:49,750 --> 00:42:52,030 Now that's top line revenue. 1035 00:42:52,060 --> 00:42:53,800 That's not take-home money. 1036 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:59,320 Cause you still have the cost of leasing employees buying the 1037 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:00,880 products, taxes, 1038 00:43:01,270 --> 00:43:01,990 all of that. 1039 00:43:01,990 --> 00:43:03,820 So I just want to make sure that yeah, 1040 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:04,330 all of it, 1041 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,110 but still you're just showing how there's a market. 1042 00:43:08,110 --> 00:43:12,640 And there are people that can buy and 200 customers may 1043 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:13,930 or may not be realistic, 1044 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,240 right. When you're starting gardening. 1045 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,870 Absolutely. But it's just a peek at how the numbers can 1046 00:43:19,900 --> 00:43:22,180 like to look at your numbers and to see what you 1047 00:43:22,210 --> 00:43:23,980 need and to go from there. 1048 00:43:23,980 --> 00:43:24,550 Of course. 1049 00:43:24,550 --> 00:43:28,480 So you were mentioning in the beginning of our conversation about 1050 00:43:28,510 --> 00:43:29,530 the supply shop, 1051 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,120 that it can be very lucrative. 1052 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,670 As long as you don't make some mistakes. 1053 00:43:33,700 --> 00:43:36,970 Can you share with us one mistake that you see happen? 1054 00:43:37,150 --> 00:43:41,020 Like maybe something that you've seen with your students or one 1055 00:43:41,020 --> 00:43:42,190 mistake. Yeah. 1056 00:43:42,190 --> 00:43:43,210 Why do you have like 10, 1057 00:43:43,300 --> 00:43:47,230 you want to share with us or just something that people 1058 00:43:47,230 --> 00:43:48,160 should be cautious about? 1059 00:43:48,190 --> 00:43:51,160 What would you say Don't do it because you think you're 1060 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:52,930 going to make money. 1061 00:43:53,530 --> 00:43:57,220 I believe in doing it because you love to and make 1062 00:43:57,220 --> 00:44:02,170 money, but it's a lot behind it and don't do it 1063 00:44:02,350 --> 00:44:06,610 to be like someone else or to be better than someone 1064 00:44:06,610 --> 00:44:08,200 else. Just be great at it. 1065 00:44:08,620 --> 00:44:09,790 Speak in my language. 1066 00:44:09,820 --> 00:44:09,970 I mean, 1067 00:44:09,970 --> 00:44:13,590 it has to be a deeper reason than just financial, 1068 00:44:13,630 --> 00:44:14,320 The reward. 1069 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:19,720 Exactly. So serving the public or serving that community, 1070 00:44:20,020 --> 00:44:21,790 you have to have a heart behind it. 1071 00:44:21,820 --> 00:44:25,450 So the biggest mistake you can make is going into it 1072 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,180 just for the money, 1073 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:32,700 because you want to be inviting to your customers. 1074 00:44:32,970 --> 00:44:38,520 Or the biggest mistake is to go into it and feel 1075 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:39,090 like, Oh, 1076 00:44:39,090 --> 00:44:40,200 I'm going to do the same day. 1077 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:40,840 They're doing it. 1078 00:44:40,860 --> 00:44:42,870 I'm going to get the same thing because it's working for 1079 00:44:42,870 --> 00:44:44,130 them. But no, 1080 00:44:44,610 --> 00:44:46,890 what may work for them may not work for you. 1081 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,040 Right? Every market is different. 1082 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:54,420 So you can't take what you see somebody else market and 1083 00:44:54,420 --> 00:44:56,340 put it in your market and think it's going to work 1084 00:44:56,340 --> 00:44:59,580 over in this area because that's not the case. 1085 00:44:59,670 --> 00:45:01,020 Every market is different. 1086 00:45:01,770 --> 00:45:02,670 Yeah. So true. 1087 00:45:02,820 --> 00:45:05,370 Wrong thing to do is not do your homework and not 1088 00:45:05,370 --> 00:45:07,050 research. It's important. 1089 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,020 Yeah. So we're, 1090 00:45:09,020 --> 00:45:11,720 do you see things progressing in the future? 1091 00:45:11,720 --> 00:45:15,230 You've talked about the collaboration that you'll be doing or hopefully 1092 00:45:15,230 --> 00:45:17,570 still be able to pick up and do with Michelle, 1093 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,270 but like what else do you see in the next couple 1094 00:45:20,270 --> 00:45:23,240 of years coming up for you Next couple of years, 1095 00:45:23,750 --> 00:45:27,170 we're going to continue to do you YouTube opening my shop 1096 00:45:27,350 --> 00:45:31,910 for my brick and mortar and helping others to do the 1097 00:45:31,910 --> 00:45:34,670 same. I want to help build. 1098 00:45:34,850 --> 00:45:37,730 And then I'm still helping people build their business. 1099 00:45:38,030 --> 00:45:40,700 But I want to be that chef Ramsey, 1100 00:45:40,940 --> 00:45:42,140 not the Hill part, 1101 00:45:42,170 --> 00:45:43,280 not the Hills kitchen, 1102 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,190 but I want to be that age or be that blessing 1103 00:45:46,190 --> 00:45:50,000 to come in and help others where you see fit. 1104 00:45:50,420 --> 00:45:52,430 Because when you're in business, 1105 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:53,450 it's not easy. 1106 00:45:53,900 --> 00:45:58,160 And a lot of times people get stuck in the market 1107 00:45:58,250 --> 00:45:58,880 of a bakery. 1108 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,380 I want to be the one to just fly out and 1109 00:46:00,380 --> 00:46:00,860 be like, 1110 00:46:00,890 --> 00:46:02,090 Hey, where do you need help at? 1111 00:46:02,390 --> 00:46:03,200 Let's do a sale. 1112 00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:04,340 Let's look at your numbers. 1113 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:05,570 Let's look at, 1114 00:46:05,570 --> 00:46:08,030 see where you need to do a sale to increase your 1115 00:46:08,030 --> 00:46:09,080 sales. You know, 1116 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,360 I want to be that person to go out and help 1117 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:12,350 their business. 1118 00:46:12,890 --> 00:46:14,870 Yeah. So it sounds like you're really high touch. 1119 00:46:14,900 --> 00:46:17,840 Like you want to be right there with them helping them. 1120 00:46:18,140 --> 00:46:18,440 All right. 1121 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,830 So we can not end the show without talking about a 1122 00:46:21,830 --> 00:46:24,770 blessing that you've received over the last several months. 1123 00:46:25,250 --> 00:46:27,740 Can you tell us what's exciting and what had happened to 1124 00:46:27,740 --> 00:46:32,420 you? Oh my goodness. 1125 00:46:32,450 --> 00:46:35,180 Yes. That was the greatest Baker. 1126 00:46:36,290 --> 00:46:37,580 Let's talk about it. 1127 00:46:37,610 --> 00:46:39,530 Tell us your experience there, 1128 00:46:39,890 --> 00:46:41,600 man. That was so stressful. 1129 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:43,790 Well, tell us, 1130 00:46:43,820 --> 00:46:44,900 walk us through. 1131 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:46,460 It was so stressful. 1132 00:46:46,610 --> 00:46:49,040 Could you say this was like the shark tank for bakers 1133 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:50,450 man? Yes, 1134 00:46:50,570 --> 00:46:55,400 it definitely was because I got up to the quarterfinals. 1135 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:56,720 I could have had it, 1136 00:46:56,720 --> 00:46:59,030 but it was man. 1137 00:46:59,150 --> 00:47:02,090 I seen the fight in the quarter finals. 1138 00:47:02,330 --> 00:47:04,040 I was in first. 1139 00:47:04,250 --> 00:47:07,490 Then in third I was bounced around from first, 1140 00:47:07,490 --> 00:47:08,180 second and third, 1141 00:47:08,180 --> 00:47:09,050 first, second and third, 1142 00:47:09,050 --> 00:47:10,070 first, second and third. 1143 00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:14,330 But it's definitely something that you have to be involved to 1144 00:47:14,330 --> 00:47:18,320 get your following or family involved to, 1145 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,090 to, to support. 1146 00:47:21,050 --> 00:47:22,520 Cause the audience votes. 1147 00:47:22,910 --> 00:47:26,600 Yeah, the audience votes and they by hero votes. 1148 00:47:26,930 --> 00:47:30,700 So hero votes would double like I think they would double, 1149 00:47:31,030 --> 00:47:32,410 but when I did it, 1150 00:47:32,530 --> 00:47:35,080 I didn't really think what it was. 1151 00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:35,440 I was like, 1152 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:36,280 okay, good. 1153 00:47:36,340 --> 00:47:36,730 I'm like, 1154 00:47:36,730 --> 00:47:37,660 I gotta follow him. 1155 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:38,650 Let me do this. 1156 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,460 But then I realized I'm like these people it's a whole 1157 00:47:42,460 --> 00:47:43,840 thing. Yeah. 1158 00:47:43,870 --> 00:47:46,840 Because I just would just post it. 1159 00:47:46,900 --> 00:47:49,900 And some of the other people from my students will post 1160 00:47:49,900 --> 00:47:52,060 it and I didn't think nothing of it I'm like, 1161 00:47:52,060 --> 00:47:53,170 okay. They was like, 1162 00:47:53,170 --> 00:47:54,730 Rochelle, you to the next round. 1163 00:47:54,850 --> 00:47:55,240 I'm like, 1164 00:47:55,240 --> 00:47:55,510 I did. 1165 00:47:58,750 --> 00:47:59,050 I'm like, 1166 00:47:59,050 --> 00:48:00,460 okay, I'm gonna post it tomorrow. 1167 00:48:00,790 --> 00:48:04,870 I was barely posting it until I got was gradually going 1168 00:48:04,870 --> 00:48:05,740 to the next level. 1169 00:48:06,100 --> 00:48:06,910 And I know, 1170 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:07,360 you know, 1171 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:07,870 chef Blake, 1172 00:48:07,870 --> 00:48:09,010 right? Yeah. 1173 00:48:09,610 --> 00:48:12,370 Okay. So he will call him crazy. 1174 00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:14,590 I got to be in competition with you. 1175 00:48:14,890 --> 00:48:20,290 I'm not going to lose this me. 1176 00:48:20,470 --> 00:48:20,980 I'm like, 1177 00:48:20,980 --> 00:48:22,690 shoot. He was working. 1178 00:48:22,690 --> 00:48:24,070 It is just, 1179 00:48:24,250 --> 00:48:27,910 it was like we had a job to do and we 1180 00:48:27,910 --> 00:48:29,770 were doing it every day after that point. 1181 00:48:30,130 --> 00:48:30,850 And he was like, 1182 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:31,240 well shit, 1183 00:48:32,170 --> 00:48:32,440 you know, 1184 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:33,610 you made it to the quarter finals. 1185 00:48:33,610 --> 00:48:34,900 Right? I'm like, 1186 00:48:34,900 --> 00:48:35,470 no way. 1187 00:48:35,740 --> 00:48:36,550 I'm like I did. 1188 00:48:37,180 --> 00:48:38,620 Oh, exciting. 1189 00:48:39,100 --> 00:48:43,420 So that's when it starts to really be interesting. 1190 00:48:43,420 --> 00:48:44,140 But yes, 1191 00:48:44,170 --> 00:48:48,070 I was may I made it to the quarterfinals and the 1192 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,350 greatest Baker challenge. 1193 00:48:50,950 --> 00:48:55,710 And that was very interesting That you say that was very 1194 00:48:55,800 --> 00:49:01,830 interesting. Did you see any increase in your following from that? 1195 00:49:02,820 --> 00:49:03,180 You know, 1196 00:49:03,210 --> 00:49:05,580 I really didn't do the analytics on that. 1197 00:49:06,300 --> 00:49:07,830 It was more for the experience. 1198 00:49:08,310 --> 00:49:09,570 Yeah. It really was. 1199 00:49:09,660 --> 00:49:13,470 I'm sure you got new followers from that and you definitely 1200 00:49:13,470 --> 00:49:16,080 got your name out there to other people for sure. 1201 00:49:16,500 --> 00:49:16,980 Oh my gosh. 1202 00:49:16,980 --> 00:49:17,700 That was so fun. 1203 00:49:17,970 --> 00:49:22,710 I loved watching the progression and then you posted and then 1204 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,710 you got to the next level and everyone was excited and 1205 00:49:25,710 --> 00:49:27,600 then you posted again and you got to that next level. 1206 00:49:28,740 --> 00:49:29,100 It was like, 1207 00:49:30,330 --> 00:49:31,800 yeah, I clever. 1208 00:49:31,830 --> 00:49:33,210 Yeah. It was excited. 1209 00:49:33,210 --> 00:49:33,780 I was like, 1210 00:49:33,810 --> 00:49:34,560 Oh my God, 1211 00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:35,460 really? I'm like, 1212 00:49:35,460 --> 00:49:35,940 no way. 1213 00:49:36,750 --> 00:49:37,590 That's so fun. 1214 00:49:37,830 --> 00:49:39,960 So every day I got to the point I was checking, 1215 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:40,780 I was checking out. 1216 00:49:40,780 --> 00:49:41,340 I was like, 1217 00:49:41,490 --> 00:49:44,700 wow. But always know those that are listening. 1218 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:49,200 Be on your a game because there is always someone watching, 1219 00:49:50,250 --> 00:49:53,730 Oh, that's really good advice when you don't think they're not 1220 00:49:53,730 --> 00:49:56,010 watching, they're watching. 1221 00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:57,600 And I always say, 1222 00:49:57,690 --> 00:50:00,660 till my students to be professional, 1223 00:50:01,140 --> 00:50:06,870 be you be unique and your gift because you can't be 1224 00:50:06,870 --> 00:50:11,460 like nobody else got in intended intends for you to be 1225 00:50:11,460 --> 00:50:15,870 that way because you were created and a unique way. 1226 00:50:16,260 --> 00:50:21,450 So even in your gifting or just be you and be 1227 00:50:21,450 --> 00:50:23,490 unique. Beautiful, 1228 00:50:23,490 --> 00:50:27,120 perfect. We are going to end it there because those are 1229 00:50:27,140 --> 00:50:28,400 golden words. 1230 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:29,120 For sure. 1231 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,610 If someone wants to join your circle, 1232 00:50:31,610 --> 00:50:32,630 know more about you, 1233 00:50:32,630 --> 00:50:36,200 Rochelle, where would the single place online be that you would 1234 00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:37,160 suggest for them to go? 1235 00:50:38,710 --> 00:50:42,400 I would say they can follow me on Facebook, 1236 00:50:43,210 --> 00:50:46,780 but mainly you can go to my YouTube channel and that's 1237 00:50:46,780 --> 00:50:50,260 all information on what you may need or look for is 1238 00:50:50,260 --> 00:50:50,800 on there. 1239 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:52,360 And that's your sweet connection. 1240 00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:57,760 Or you can follow me on my Instagram at your sweet 1241 00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:59,950 Connect and you go there. 1242 00:50:59,950 --> 00:51:01,720 I give up a lot of gifts. 1243 00:51:02,770 --> 00:51:03,940 Well now you've piqued. 1244 00:51:03,940 --> 00:51:05,920 Everyone's curiosity for sure. 1245 00:51:06,220 --> 00:51:07,060 And give his listeners, 1246 00:51:07,060 --> 00:51:07,390 you know, 1247 00:51:07,390 --> 00:51:07,790 all of that. 1248 00:51:07,790 --> 00:51:09,220 It'll all be over in the show notes. 1249 00:51:09,220 --> 00:51:11,290 So if you weren't able to capture the links, 1250 00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,720 just look at the show notes and you will be able 1251 00:51:13,720 --> 00:51:15,820 to get directly over to Rochelle. 1252 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:17,500 So thank you so much for shell. 1253 00:51:17,500 --> 00:51:19,540 This has been so interesting. 1254 00:51:19,540 --> 00:51:20,860 I love your story. 1255 00:51:20,860 --> 00:51:24,790 I am so glad that you healed and moved on to 1256 00:51:24,790 --> 00:51:27,970 the whole world of confection artistry. 1257 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,070 Thank you so much for being on the show today. 1258 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:31,600 Thank you for having me. 1259 00:51:34,690 --> 00:51:38,380 All I have to say is Wilton missed out big time 1260 00:51:38,410 --> 00:51:40,300 on not taking on Rochelle's line. 1261 00:51:40,750 --> 00:51:43,990 A great example of keeping an eye on the end goal. 1262 00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,390 And if one path doesn't take you there, 1263 00:51:46,720 --> 00:51:49,120 you just find another road. 1264 00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,390 Pinterest is our topic for next week. 1265 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,840 There's been a lot of conversation about Pinterest in the breeze. 1266 00:51:55,900 --> 00:52:00,130 So I'm loaded with all your questions and next Monday, 1267 00:52:00,460 --> 00:52:02,320 it's answer time. 1268 00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,850 Finally, make sure you check out maker's MBA while the doors 1269 00:52:06,850 --> 00:52:07,750 are still open, 1270 00:52:08,170 --> 00:52:11,950 class starts March 15th and it's already shaping up to be 1271 00:52:11,950 --> 00:52:13,960 a great group. 1272 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:18,490 And I'd love to have you included go to gift biz, 1273 00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,070 unwrapped.com forward slash makers, 1274 00:52:21,340 --> 00:52:25,420 MBA for all of the details and to grab your seat. 1275 00:52:25,420 --> 00:52:27,460 Thank you so much for spending time with me today. 1276 00:52:27,940 --> 00:52:30,040 If you'd like to show support for the podcast, 1277 00:52:30,100 --> 00:52:33,580 a rating and review would be fabulous and you know what 1278 00:52:33,580 --> 00:52:34,210 that does. 1279 00:52:34,630 --> 00:52:37,000 It helps the show get seen by more makers. 1280 00:52:37,030 --> 00:52:39,910 So it's a really nice way to pay it forward. 1281 00:52:40,630 --> 00:52:43,270 Also, if you follow the podcast, 1282 00:52:43,300 --> 00:52:45,760 you'll automatically get new shows, 1283 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,640 right? The second that they air that way you don't miss 1284 00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,970 anything and now be safe and well. 1285 00:52:52,150 --> 00:52:54,850 And I'll see you again next week on the gift biz 1286 00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:56,230 unwrapped Cast. 1287 00:52:57,340 --> 00:53:00,010 I want to make sure you're familiar with my free Facebook 1288 00:53:00,010 --> 00:53:02,530 group called gift is breeze. 1289 00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,730 It's a place where we all gather and our community to 1290 00:53:06,730 --> 00:53:07,960 support each other. 1291 00:53:08,410 --> 00:53:10,570 Got a really fun post in there. 1292 00:53:10,570 --> 00:53:11,920 That's my favorite of the week. 1293 00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,830 I have to say where I invite all of you to 1294 00:53:14,830 --> 00:53:17,920 share what you're doing to show pictures of your product, 1295 00:53:18,100 --> 00:53:21,340 to show what you're working on for the week to get 1296 00:53:21,340 --> 00:53:24,280 reaction from other people and just for fun, 1297 00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:28,050 because we all to see the wonderful products that everybody in 1298 00:53:28,050 --> 00:53:32,430 the community is making my favorite post every single week, 1299 00:53:32,490 --> 00:53:33,840 without doubt. 1300 00:53:34,530 --> 00:53:35,610 Wait, what, 1301 00:53:36,510 --> 00:53:38,130 aren't you part of the group already, 1302 00:53:38,790 --> 00:53:42,180 if not make sure to jump over to Facebook and search 1303 00:53:42,180 --> 00:53:45,690 for the group gift biz breeze don't delay. 1304 00:53:46,140 --> 00:53:49,080 Come join us in gift biz breeze today.