You clicked on this podcast episode because of one of two things.

You want to know if Ayurveda is completely and utterly woo woo.

Or you realize that maybe my Indian ancestors were onto something thousands of years ago.

Hey, and welcome back to another episode of the Global Health Pursuit podcast.

This episode is a little bit different than my usual content, but I wanted to highlight it because the world of Ayurveda and Eastern medicine is just fascinating to me.

Because what if.

What if we could prevent our body's aches and pains by being more thoughtful of what we consume mentally and physically?

And as I say this, I feel like this is just a no brainer.

But living in a Western society, taking a daily pill to curb migraines or suppress heartburn is just easier, right?

It's the quick solution.

So in this episode, I got a chance to chat with Ayurvedic practitioner Austin Fantastic about all things Ayurveda.

How the Western healthcare system let him down, how his body forced him to find Ayurveda, how he finally healed, and what your poop eyeballs and tongue can say about your health and more.

My name is Hetal Bahman and this is the Global Health Pursuit.

Couldn't help but think the world of Ayurveda is deeply connected to India and it's part of my ancestry.

What's interesting to me, I was just thinking about this today, where there's a whole stigma right around Indian families studying Western medicine and that becoming very prestigious.

And I feel like there's a part of India that's just being like, so detached to its roots.

I can see, you know, as an American Indians coming to America wanting to do something more than where they came from.

Like you said, the prestige of doing Western medicine and the doctor and the white coat and all those things and the imagery and making your parents proud and the familial generational honor and things like that that go, I think is.

It's understandable and juxtaposed with that.

I thought it was really interesting.

When I was in India studying Ayurveda, so many Indians would come to me and be like, oh my God, you're here for Ayurveda.

Like, tell me all about it.

And I'm like, I'm here to learn it from you.

From you.

Yeah.

And, you know, a lot of that has to do with history, the English rule and stomping out a lot of Indian traditions and like, thank goodness Ayurveda survived that time period and it's making a resurgence now.

Yeah, I think it's Beautiful.

And I hope the future is embracing both sides.

Western medicine is amazing for trauma care, you know, cancer, like, really severe life conditions.

And Ayurveda is really beautiful for solving a lot of, like, the mysterious kind of problem.

You know, you go to the doctor and you're like, oh, it hurts here.

And they do all the tests and scans and they say, oh, nothing's wrong with you.

Go home and you're left in pain.

You know, so things like that.

Ayurveda is great for.

And it's amazing for prevention.

I've been practicing Ayurveda for five years, and I've been seeing therapists for probably a couple more years longer than that.

I don't know how many times I didn't get sick, you know, thanks to Ayurveda.

But there's just so many things you can learn and understand about your body where it's like, you can see something coming out on the horizon and be like, let me make a change, you know, to my diet, or do something different today.

You stay healthy.

It's about, you know, navigating this path of health.

I want to really dive into your story first because your story is really interesting in terms of just how you got into Ayurvedic practices.

And when we first connected, you had told me that you had worked in film in the very beginning.

So bring us back to that.

Yeah.

Growing up, I chose film and television as a career, my career path.

I moved to New York City at 21 and just hit the ground running, like, blazing, full steam ahead.

For those familiar with the film television show went from a production assistant to a director of photography and four and a half years, which is, like, insane, you know, to move through kind of all the ranks up to heading the camera department for mostly TV shows I worked on and, you know, some films and stuff like that.

But the industry is, you know, your work day on paper is 12 hours every day.

If your call time's nine, your break time is nine, you know, when you wrap.

So, you know, that's a lot of pressure and that's a lot of stress, and that's just what's on paper.

That doesn't include the commute to set and back from set and, you know, all the things you gotta try and figure out for yourself in the meantime.

So working in film and television, a lot of pressure and stress from being a director of photography, dealing with the network, dealing with the directors making the show.

Right.

You know, my own personal life, stress, emotional baggage, and the lifestyle that I was leading all those Factors built up to the point of me getting sick.

And it started.

It was this kind of like, ooh, like, weird pain in my left side.

I thought, oh, maybe I.

Like, I pulled something or, you know, I've been carrying the camera around a lot, kind of wrote it off.

And then one night when I was falling asleep, it was just like.

It felt like something inside me popped or, like, broke.

And I thought, you know, left side, you know, your stomach, you're like, did my appendix just explode?

And, like, I thought I was gonna die in my bed that night.

Oh, gosh.

Yeah, it was brutal.

So I called 91 1.

I was getting, like, tunnel vision, and I was in bed.

So I grabbed whatever I could to put on and walked out to the street.

And I was like, if I pass out, at least they'll find me on the sidewalk.

Luckily, I didn't pass out.

The ambulance came quick and got me to the hospital and figured it out.

But four hours later, they were like, oh, we think you had a kidney stone.

And I was like, what?

And so, you know, four or five days went by, and, like, the pain hadn't subsided, and you were still in.

Immense pain at this point.

What happened that night happened once a month for the subsequent months.

It was like this shredding, ripping pain through my abdomen.

Oh, wow.

And I would be in bed for, like, two or three days every time that happened.

And then when I wasn't going through, like, that severe pain, what it felt like was just kind of like.

It was like a hot iron prod, like, on the inside, like, trying to push out.

It was just like this burning, like, pushing pain under my left rib.

So that night at the hospital was the beginning of, like, four or five months of doctor's tests, you know, CT scans, ultrasound scans, X ray.

They did all the tests on me, endoscopy, you know, And I couldn't figure out, you know, they looked at everything.

They were like, there's nothing broken, so you're fine.

Isn't that the worst feeling ever, though?

Like, just going to the doctor and feeling pain and then them being like, no, you're fine.

And you're like, well, I'm actually feeling something in my body.

So you.

I'm actually not fine.

So can we figure it out?

You know, prior to this experience, every time I went to the doctor, it's like, oh, I got an earache.

I broke up something.

You know, so it was, like, pretty straightforward.

So people are familiar with the health landscape, you know, are familiar with this type of story, but it was an entirely new dialogue for me.

I was not familiar with people going to the doctors and being let down in this type of way.

And I was like, you guys, you have all the machines, like you're supposed to know you're a doctor.

Where did Ayurveda come into play at this point?

Yeah, that was just a magical accident, honestly.

So a year ish, you know, prior to all of this stuff happening, it was somebody who I actually went on a date with.

We later ended up becoming friends.

She started telling me about this thing that to me at the time sounded so hippy dippy.

I was like, that's not real.

She was telling me about Ayurveda.

And so at the time of the conversation, I remember just being like, huh, you know, whatever.

But what she mentioned was like, you know, I had completely transformed her life.

And it was after.

So I'd done all the tests and the endoscopy was like the last thing that I had done.

And I gotten the test results back from that.

I was just sitting, you know, at my kitchen table looking at my laptop, just like defeated, so broken.

And in this moment, that conversation came back to mind and just her saying, like, it completely transformed my life was the only thing I could think about.

Like, I don't have anything to lose, I've tried everything else.

So I text her and I was like, yo, what was that thing you told me about, yo?

And she responded back to me and I looked up the woman who she referred to and I went and saw her, you know, the next available appointment that I could.

And that was the beginning of my journey with Ayurveda through her.

It started with meditation and then she referred me to an Ayurvedic therapist and he started changing my diet and telling me about my dosha, how I could cater to my health between the dietary recommendations and the meditation.

I mean, within like a week I started feeling better and within three months I would say I had completely healed.

When you hear about things like this without really experiencing it, you might think it's like, woo, woo, you know, like new age.

But that's just so, like mind blowing to me.

So I want to take it back to the basics and just ask you, what is Ayurveda?

You threw out some terms like dosha, where even as an Indian person, like, I don't even know.

Yeah, so ayurveda is a 5000 plus year old medical science from the greater Indian subcontinent.

It's not defined by the country lines now.

And the principles of Ayurveda are understanding like the body and how the body operates.

So there's three doshas in the body.

Vata, which is air and ether element, Pitta, which is fire and water element, and kapha which is water and earth element.

So they figured the whole entire universe is made up of these five elements.

You can see obviously the earth everywhere you go, the water everywhere we go, Fire, you know, is the sun, air, you know, the wind that blows, and oxygen.

And then ether is space, is nothingness.

So we have space on earth.

You know, they translate a little bit differently, but, you know, we can also equate it to actual physical outer space.

So then those five elements and then the combination of those elements create the doshas.

And then the doshas govern different systems in your body.

And everybody is a combination of all three doshas and everybody is going to have something that's more predominant in your body, which is why we say you are pitta dosha or you are kapha dosha.

And it's not because you're missing vata dosha.

It just means that the pitta is predominant or the kapha is predominant.

Just like in the world, all the elements need, you know, balance and counterbalance each other.

Without one, there can't be the other inside your body.

We want to keep the doshas in balance so that the body stays in harmony, our internal universe stays in harmony.

So how does that pertain to medicine?

How does that pertain to healing?

Yeah, it's taken me a long time and all these years of study and working with people directly to understand the translation from like Ayurvedic principles to medical principles.

You know, like I said, Ayurveda is very scientific, but it has a completely different paradigm of looking at and understanding the body than Western medicine.

So there's not a one to one translation of like how things work.

You know, it's like we think of things like vitamins and minerals and proteins and nutrients and things like that.

And then hormonal imbalances and like this is how we get sick, you know.

And so we say, oh well, if you have, you know, low immunity, then you need to take vitamin C.

Or if your APT is off and you need more energy, then you need to take vitamin B.

And they're like, oh well, the vitamin B is not working, so you need to take vitamin D.

Unless you're getting constant blood tests and scans, how are you knowing what you're doing to your body and influencing it?

And in Ayurveda we look at the systems, the processes of the whole entire body.

You Know how on the large scale, like, chunking first, you start with, like, vata dosha, pittadocha, kapha dosha, and you're like, what are they doing?

And then, you know, we can look at different things, like kaphas in the lungs and the heart and the throat.

So it's like, are you having an issue there?

And then if you're having an issue, there is kapha dosha.

The culprit of that problem, pittadocha, is in your digestive system.

So it's your stomach, your spleen, your appendix, your liver, your gallbladder.

So if you're having a digestive issue, then we look at pittsa dosha, and we're like, oh, that's where the problem is happening.

I'm having digestive issues.

But who's causing the problem then?

You know, it could be vatadosha could be causing the problem, but it's pitta dosha who's under attack, you know, and then vata dosha lives in the colon, in the large intestine, you know, so you could be having problems there.

So, so we.

We chunk first by, like, trying to look at which dosha is out of balance based on the symptoms, and then we reverse the process of disease.

The disease itself is kind of the symptom.

We go backwards from the disease to who caused the problem in the first place, and then we correct it from both ends.

We can work on the conditions symptomatically, like, what is the symptom that you're having?

So it's like you're having digestive issues.

Then we can start to give you some digestive herbs, but then we can also give you therapies to correct the dosha.

And then we can meet in the middle with complete cure.

Wow.

So, okay, you found Ayurveda, and then you basically got obsessed with it and wanted to learn everything about it.

Right.

Which makes sense, you know, if it's something that totally transformed your life.

You want to know more?

What was some of the things that really drew you in when you were going through the learning process?

Right.

When I started healing, I was just like, what is this stuff?

How do I get more?

And I started, you know, reading books and talking to everybody and trying to find resources that I couldn't.

I didn't know it would lead to me being a practitioner, an ayurvedic practitioner.

I thought I was convinced I would stay in film and television for my life.

But a few months later, yeah, I had this kind of, like, universe moment of like, oh, I could change my career and do something different.

That inception moment was I could change my career as like I could help people heal through Ayurveda and I could be an Ayurvedic chef and introduce people to Ayurveda through food.

So that was the kind of like the initial thought process and so I started taking types of steps towards that.

So the first thing is I went to culinary school.

I went to the Culinary Institute of America in Hyde Park, New York which was an amazing experience.

And I learned a lot interestingly about like food and digestion through that school and like how food works, kind of like the chemistry of the kitchen.

So at that time I was still just self studied in Ayurveda.

And then immediately after culinary school I took my first year of Ayurvedic school.

Ayurvedic health counselor consultant.

In the US there's like three levels.

So I did my first year and then I went to India and I studied in India for eight months and I was at two different Ayurvedic clinics there, one in Rajasthan and one in Mumbai.

So I did just hundreds of clinical hours, lots of work.

And then I came back to the US in the end of 2020 and in, I think it was in 21, I then I started my education as a Ayurvedic practitioner, which you could liken to like getting a master's degree.

And it's much more.

The Ayurvedic health counselor is more like diet, lifestyle, understanding the structure of the body, kind of like learning all the working pieces of Ayurvedic anatomy.

And then this program, the Ayurvedic practitioner program is more like, it's much more disease involved.

You know, each month of school we just focused on nervous diseases, mental diseases, reproductive dise is.

I've had so many revelations.

I feel like in Ayurveda it's hard to say that there's like one outstanding concept.

But you know, modern science is starting to look more into epigenetics and individualized medicine, which is the Ayurvedic model.

From the beginning, before we treat someone, we seek to understand that person.

Who are you?

What's going on with you?

How are we going to help you heal?

So it's always been the individualized approach.

Ayurveda had a system of basically understanding epigenetics.

That's the doshas.

I mean it's broken down again.

It's like in these like kind of archaic language.

But where I had the revelation is so we have the five elements.

The five elements Combined create the three doshas, those elements and those doshas and their interplays with each other create qualities.

20 qualities, the gunas.

And it's 10 pairs of opposites.

So 20 qualities in total.

It's like hot, cold, dry, wet.

One day I was actually listening to a book on physics.

It was called the Physics of God.

Something in that book triggered this moment.

And I was like, the 20 gunas are the 20amino acids in a DNA strand.

Oh wow.

I was like, our DNA, our genetic expression.

I was like, Ayurveda was onto this 5,000 years ago.

And I was like, could this be real?

And so I started doing research.

Is this real life?

I was like, could they, could they have really figured it out?

Like epigenetics 5,000 years ago, before you know, a machine was ever invented to know that there that were that body cells are even made out of DNA?

And so I did a little bit of research and just some preliminary study has shown that, yes, that those 20 qualities are in fact Ayurveda's understanding of epigenetics and the DNA expression.

And you know, how we either prevent or cause disease.

It's like, how could two identical twins, one goes bald and one doesn't, one gets leukemia, the other doesn't.

Like how does that happen?

And it's all because of nature versus nurture.

It's like you're, you're born with your nature, that's who you are.

You're born with your makeup from your parents.

That's your genetic code.

But how do you treat that genetic code throughout your lifetime will produce different results, it will produce healthy results or it'll produce unhealthy results.

And yeah, that's the whole entire Ayurvedic model.

So one of that's been something that's extremely fascinated me and I'd like to go a lot deeper on that.

Just to be able to kind of communicate that to other people is like, keep going back to the same thing.

It's not woo woo.

It's not fake, it's not weird science.

It's science science.

Why is it so hard to comprehend?

No, as like somebody in western society who has only experienced Western medicine.

Why is it so hard to comprehend that treatments like that of Ayurvedic treatments is science, like you're saying?

I think it's just communication.

You know, the way we were raised.

The way we learned things like for example, meditation.

Right.

There's so many benefits to meditation, but people are like, what is that going to do for me?

I do have A pseudo scientific explanation for why meditation is good for you.

Your pituitary gland sits in between the two hemispheres of your left and right brain.

And that is like the governor of pretty much all the systems and processes inside your body.

When you're stressed, your brain is creating electrical signals that are going back and forth when you're stressed, it's like a storm.

And your pituitary gland is sitting in the center of that.

And I had always thought of it as kind of like air traffic control.

So like it's on the center of the, you know, tarmac.

Tarmac.

I was like, tamarack, what?

So the air traffic control is like kind of in a prime location of the tarmac and it's watching incoming planes and outgoing planes.

Right for the brain and it's communicating to everybody.

Like you go here, you go there, and it's keeping order and everything organized.

Well, now picture like it's cloudy and foggy and like they don't have visual anymore, you know, to the planes, but they still have their instruments.

Well, now add lightning, you know, and add whatever like strain, rain and hail.

You're going to start disturbing all of the controls.

Ability to organize everything.

And so if you're stressed, all this electrical signals going back and forth over your pituitary gland, it's going to have a hard time functioning and saying this needs to go there and that needs to go there and like keeping control of the whole entire system.

So when we meditate, we actually harmonize the left and right hemispheres of the brain and they have shown this in scans, whereas like there's, you know, just this ton of confusion.

And then, you know, we go into like rhythmic, like sine waves, you know, for how the brain is like operating.

And there's, you know, beta, alpha, theta, delta.

It's like the different brain wavelengths in gamma moving the brain from more chaotic places into more harmonious places.

And then, you know, the pituitary gland can be at rest and like organize things a lot better.

I like the air traffic controller analogy.

That was good.

It's a pseudo side explanation.

Where do you draw the line between treating with Ayurvedic practices and treating with Western medicine practices?

Yeah, I feel like the line can probably be moving back and forth.

There's not like a static answer of where you start and stop.

Eastern and Western medicine practices.

Ayurvedic medicine is amazing for prevention and it's really great for solving like those mysterious illnesses that aren't life threatening.

In Western medicine, if there's a trauma and you have a life threatening disease, your best course of action is to go with western medicine.

If you have stage four cancer and you know your terminal, get treatment through that system.

And this would take a more individualized case by case understanding.

But when you're ready, you know, move in ayurvedic supporting medicine.

And once you are no longer terminal and you're stable, all the things that you should have done to prevent the cancer in the first place, now you have to do after the fact to heal the body and heal the tissues and heal those structures and things like that.

So that's kind of like grand scale, but on a little bit smaller, like relatable scale for anybody at home, like practical.

If you're sick and you have to go into work and you know, your head is pounding and you're stuffy and groggy and you can't function, like, take Dayquil and go to work.

You know, if you have to.

Ideally, you know, you'd stay at home and rest, right?

But you know, the world that we live in, it's like we have to function.

So you're not going to health jail if you take dayquil, but you should also be taking herbs, you know, treating understanding like, well, how did you get sick in the first place?

Like what caused the cold?

And then so using ayurvedic medicine to treat that at the same time.

And you know, for me in my own life and you know, with my clients that I work with, that's, you know, I carry that through.

You know, it's not like something I just say, it's like something I believe in.

I had a client a few years ago.

This was like relatively quick out.

It was when I was studying in India, so it was just after I'd finished school.

She had chronic migraines for two or three years before we saw each other.

You know, at the time that we saw each other, she was having like five to seven migraines a week and like cluster headaches and she's like totally debilitated.

She was taking all the maximum dosages of the different drugs that the doctors had given her to try and allay the problem.

She'd gotten to an impasse.

She was like, there's nowhere further for me to go in western medicine.

So we started working together, we did all the ayurvedic stuff.

We do the consultation, understand how it started, and kind of put all the pieces together and get a real map basically of her condition and then started to navigate her way towards health.

And pretty quickly, you know, with some Diet and some herb changes and lifestyle changes.

She went down to like three days a week.

She'd have a migraine, and the intensity went from a 10 to a 6, you know, so it wasn't as debilitating.

I don't remember what it was now, but whatever pills like, she was taking to, like, relieve the migraines, I didn't stop her.

I was like, go ahead.

I was like, take it.

If you're in pain, take it.

But we're still doing the protocol.

And after about three and a half months of working with each other, she now gets a migraine a couple of times a year.

I think the fact that you're not somebody who's saying, oh, don't take Western medicine at all, that's bad.

It makes it so much more easy to implement because, hey, if you're in pain, sure, take some medicine that will alleviate it, but at the same time, let's continue.

So you're an ayurvedic practitioner and you're taking clients.

What are the conditions that you see most of that your clients have?

It's so interesting that you asked that.

So my marketing and advertising and a lot of my copy kind of is around, like, my condition.

So I talk a lot about IBS and digestive issues, and that's kind of where I hang out.

But I get clients with all sorts of different conditions.

Of the last four clients I've just recently seen, two of them were IBS and the other two, one was cancer and another one was actually similar to the migraines client.

He's got vestibular migraines and tinnitus and vertigo.

Chronic debilitating.

So, yeah, I get kind of like a myriad of different types of people that I attract.

And I've worked with all sorts of different things, but I think usually people latch on to, yeah, I have a digestive issue or something like that and these other symptoms.

And so that's how kind of like the spread of clients that I get.

When a client comes to you, like, what is your process in terms of the consultation?

What does that look like?

And then how do you educate your clients and motivate them to make these changes in their life?

When somebody first comes to me, usually it's just a.

It's a lot of back and forth conversation.

You know, it's like, oh, what do you have?

How'd you get it?

And da, da, da.

And then they asked me, you know, how I'm gonna help them.

They're like, well, I don't know how I'm Gonna help you right now until we do a full consultation.

But, you know, I help people through diet, lifestyle and herbs, and then usually also to meditation, if they're open to it.

If not, there's other psychological therapies that you can do in Ayurveda that are helpful.

But I would say meditation among them is king.

So, yeah, somebody comes to me and let's say, you know, we've gone through that process.

So they say, like, yes, let's do this.

What happens then is I send them a health questionnaire.

So they fill everything out.

It's kind of just like you go to a doctor's office, like, what are you allergic to, what hurts?

Or what are you coming to this visit for?

Health history, those sorts of things.

And then the consultation itself, it's about an hour and a half, long process for most people.

And we go really deep into all sorts of different weird symptoms that signs that they might have.

And it's weird in the sense that they seem unrelated.

But in Ayurveda, everything has a string.

Do you have aches and pains?

Do you have cracking and popping joints?

You know, people would think like, oh, yeah, my joints crack all the time.

But what does that mean?

Well, it means you have, like, really high vata, you know, so it's like, we need to know that to diagnose and understand.

So we go through that whole entire thing, you know, what are you eating and how's your bowel movements?

And, you know, if anybody who's familiar with Ayurveda, we know we talk about poop a lot.

I love that.

Yeah, it's important.

We need to know.

And then I do a mixture of distant and local clients.

So a lot of people who are virtual, I'll have them send me photos of their fingernails, their tongue.

And then now, more recently, I was doing it before, but I'm getting back into it again.

As a picture of your eye, this is Ayurvedic, like iridology, so you could read the patterns in the iris and see what those mean, the implications for health.

And so between the physiological evidence, you know, the look of your fingernails and your tongue and your eyes, coupled with the interview, then with all that information, like I said, I can kind of get a real map of your state of imbalance.

Where did it start?

How did it start?

How did it progress?

Where are you at right now?

And then I can create the pathway towards healing and then the healing part with Ayurveda.

So like I said, I use diet, lifestyle, herbs, meditation.

But there's also Stages to that.

So the beginning stage is palliation and it's usually a bit more gentle.

What we're trying to do is bring the doshas back into alignment and harmony with each other.

The reason you have disease is because they've gone out of harmony with each other.

And I think of it as like bone setting.

Right.

So it's like first we gotta like soften the area, prepare the tissues, make sure everything is nice and gentle and ready.

So that's the palliation stage and then there's a detoxification stage which is like the.

You're gonna put it in place.

This reminded me of like a chiropractor.

Exactly.

Yeah.

You're just like crack it and you're like realign.

You know, it's a very aggressive but also fast that can be a few days to a week long process of resetting the doshas, the detoxification process, and then there's the rejuvenation process stage which is now that things are back in line, we want to strengthen and tonify and bake in those results in a state of balance.

What about people who don't necessarily have huge issues?

Have you seen any clients like that that were just like, oh, I just want to know how to strengthen my diet or bring more energy into my life or something like that?

Yeah, I do get some people who are like ayurvedic, curious.

It's not as strong of a motivation.

You know, people are like in pain, they're like, I'll do anything, it doesn't matter.

So I do get those clients very rarely at this point, but for them, you know, it's interesting too, even with those like just slight differences of how your body feels or like, yeah, I want to like make my digestion better.

It's amazing how different you can feel when you follow ayurvedic principles.

So for one example, like me and my family, my mom is the only one who's really like bought in to Ayurveda.

We'll do family parties or something like that.

And people try and send me home with leftovers and I just say no.

I was like, I won't take food home.

It's one of the big things in Ayurveda is like not to eat leftover food, frozen, canned shelf goods, preserved, things like that.

Because it's heavy food.

It has a sitting energy.

And so when you put food that's been sitting for a long time into your body, it's going to create this heaviness, the slowness, the static energy and it can really mess up your digestive system.

And for me, the ayurvedic rule then is like, you eat fresh food every single day.

Freshly cooked, you know, breakfast, lunch, and dinner, you know, fresh vegetables.

If it's meat, then you get fresh meat.

Whatever it is, it's just fresh, so nothing left over.

And for me, having eaten that way for so long now, if I eat food that's left over for one day, I might be okay.

But if I eat leftovers two days in a row, then it messes me up and I just feel like blah.

You know, I feel heavy and I feel gross.

So people who are doing this chronically, that's just how they understand their body to feel.

If you're eating leftover and preserved and food out to go and all these things all of the time, you don't know that once you optimize your digestion, you don't know what it feels like to have the energy, have the clarity of mind, have the focus, have all these things.

It's like you're stuck in the mire and you don't know that you're there.

So, yeah, it's interesting.

You know, people come with the digestive issues, and then they start to do these things, and they're like, wow, I can't believe how much energy I have.

I can't believe how I feel, and I can't believe all these things.

And it's like, you can't believe it because you just don't know because you haven't tried yet.

Wow, that makes me not want to eat my leftovers.

Yeah, it's honestly, like, I feel bad, and it's a big lifestyle change to.

You know, for me, always be making fresh food.

You need to have the time to even do that.

Yeah, you need to have the time to do that.

A lot of the health stuff online, it's like meal prepping and, like, having all your stuff ready to go, and it's healthier, but it's not that healthy.

There.

There's a lot to it.

But the benefit, the payoff is monumental.

You know, I don't like wasting food, so it's been a learning curve to make sure.

It's like, how do you cook just enough for each meal?

And usually a breakfast is simple because I can make a very small breakfast and that's fine.

And then lunch, you know, if there's anything left over, I can eat for dinner.

So leftover means leftover night.

So you can eat lunch and dinner the same food the same day, and that's okay.

But if you put it in the fridge and it goes overnight, that's considered leftover.

I've conceded a little bit and I'll eat a one day leftover so I don't waste food.

But I won't go beyond that because then now I'm being wasteful of my health.

That's interesting to say it that way.

Yeah.

Wow.

So for anybody who's listening in who might be curious about possibly changing their life through Ayurvedic practices, are you currently open to new clients?

Yeah, absolutely.

I wish I could help everybody in the world.

I do take new clients and if anybody wants to connect with me, you know, Ayurveda for dot us, but it's Ayurveda for us.

You know, they can find me on my website and contact me through that.

And so yeah, for people who are Ayurveda curious and same, you know, with my website, you can go on there just for blog information and tips and things and then to work with me.

The best way to reach me is through the website.

Amazing.

And I'll put all of the links in the description so that it's easy for you guys to find all of that information.

Thank you so much.

Austin.

Hey, thank you so much.

It's been such a pleasure.

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