Sarah:

Hello, welcome to another great episode.

Sarah:

My name is Sarah Karakaian.

Annette:

I am Annette Grant, and together we are--

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And this is the--

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Hosting Hotline.

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We've got a great question today about inspectors.

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Hi, Sarah and Annette.

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My name is Greer.

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I'm from Gregory Hill Homes, on Instagram.

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We are a short-term rental owner operator in Rhode Island.

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I absolutely love you guys, love listening to you, and have gotten so many great

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insights from you guys for this industry.

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My question is about hiring.

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I'm looking to hire inspectors to help with the cleaning process and

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get some work off of my plate so I can focus on growing my business.

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Um, I know that you guys have experience with that, so I was just wondering how you

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went about hiring them for the first time.

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Looking into it, it looks like I won't be able to hire them as

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independent contractors, but employees.

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So just wondering how you went about that, how you pay them.

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Do you do it hourly or per turnover, um, if every house is the same, etc?

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So any help and insight would be very helpful.

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Thank you.

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All right.

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We have so much to say about this.

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Annette, do you want to get us started?

Annette:

Well, first I want to thank Greer because number one, she's an amazing host.

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Please check out her spaces in Rhode Island at Gregory Hill Homes.

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She's actually been a STR Share Sunday.

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So we thank you for being a loyal listener and contributor,

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and let's talk about this.

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Everyone, if you don't have an inspector, you might be the

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inspector, but let's get an inspector.

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Let's start really quick, Sarah.

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Let's just give a rundown of what an inspector does.

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I love that.

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Yes, so an inspector is someone who helps you trust but verify the work of

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the cleaning team and lends an extra layer of support to the cleaning team.

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So on our team, our inspector comes, if they can, prior to the clean, and

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they do a little pre-clean checklist that can include filling all the

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soaps, bringing out a new sponge.

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If they can--

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Starting laundry.

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Starting laundry.

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Yes.

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So those sorts of things.

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They let the cleaning team come and do their thing, and they come

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back in, they lint roll everything.

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They stage the curtains.

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We, of course, check all of the safety elements.

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They run their hands across the counter.

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So it really is just a [Inaudible] but verify.

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But also in our company, we treat them as just an extra layer for

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the cleaning team to lean on.

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All right, so now that we know who the inspector is, Greer, the first

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thing we want to tell you is, and this is for all listeners, this person definitely

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needs to have a high attention to detail.

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They are the detailer.

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Some people call them the detailer in their company.

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So that's number one when you are hiring.

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Number two, this is something, um, you do want to make sure in you're

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in alignment with this person.

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I know Greer you had mentioned not being able to hire an independent contractor.

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Need a little more info there, but listeners also, some people hire them as a

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1099, which is an independent contractor.

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Some people hire them as a W-2.

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Of course, this is something that you're going to want to look very

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specifically in your state, exactly how your business is set up, and

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what you're asking this person to do.

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But we want to encourage you, you're going to find the right person, but set up first

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before you even go on the hunt for this person, what is that job description?

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What are you going to want them to do?

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And Greer, it sounds like your business is growing, and, um, this is an

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opportunity that is that person just going to be an inspector or are you

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going to have them do some other things?

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But Sarah, let's talk about what she was asking of, the payment.

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What type of compensation?

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Is this a per turn?

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Is it by the hour?

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Are they driving a far away?

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Are they going to be able to do multiple places?

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Here's the tricky part.

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In my experience, it can vary greatly whether or not you have

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a very small company, business.

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You have one property, two properties.

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I understand the pains there of how do you get someone to take ownership of the

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inspector position for you while you may only have two, three turnovers a week?

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So if that is you, put yourself in the potential inspector's

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shoes, in the detailers shoes.

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What's going to make it worth it to them to take ownership and pride

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into making sure every single one of your spaces is guest ready?

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In my opinion, that might be more of a per piece compensation.

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What is it going to be worth it for them to get a bed, go to your

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property, spend some time there?

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How many bedrooms?

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How many baths?

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Are they doing stuff on the outside?

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Are they checking the elements?

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Hopefully you're getting a professional to do the pool and the hot tub and things

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like that, but they might just make sure everything's locked up and ready for the

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guest and safety elements are in place.

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So think about that really deeply.

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It may not be, well, they're only there for an hour and a half.

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Well, sure, but if they're only turning over the property once or

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twice a week, it may not be worth it to them on that hourly rate.

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And some ways to get really creative, you may have an opportunity,

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I have in the past had my turnover person also be the inspector.

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And that was number one, because I really trusted this person.

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They had the time to be able to turn the place, take a break, and then

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go back into the property with an inspector's view, um, and know that

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they were doing a separate job the next time that they went through the house.

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And so I also just want to say, what does your turnover team look like right now?

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Is that a one or two-person team?

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Is there a way that you can maybe compensate them to do a secondary?

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And say, this is not the clean, this is a second portion of

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the work that's contracted.

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That's a place that I would maybe look at, Greer, just because you said you couldn't

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do the independent contractor thing.

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I don't know what type of company you're using for your turnovers.

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First, go to them, and maybe they even know someone.

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Um, Sarah and I were just thinking there's a plethora of places to

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look online, inside your network, see what other people are doing.

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But this is definitely a place you are going to have to get creative, and you

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are going to have to iterate most likely.

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And the awesome part is you can continue to layer on more things.

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So just really need to make sure that person's in alignment.

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I would also see what your budget can handle.

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If you are a larger company out there loving this information or

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this conversation about inspectors, you can pay by the hour if you can

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offer your inspectors a larger shift.

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So for us right now, our inspectors start around 9:00, 9:30 in the morning, and

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they usually work until 4:30, 5 o'clock in the evening, depending on how busy our

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day is, how many back to backs we have.

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And then we have a couple inspectors, that way every day is covered in our business.

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That's how we work.

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I know other companies that have-- really large companies might have

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every inspector or property detailer has a section of homes or an area of

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homes that they take ownership of.

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So there's a lot of ways to structure this.

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There really is no one-size-fits-all.

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But I also want to give a shout out to one of our podcast sponsors, Breezeway.

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They help you dial in this inspector role.

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So whether you take Annette's advice and maybe see if the cleaning company

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has someone else, they can offer you to come and be the inspector or

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maybe the cleaner is the inspector.

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If they have two different checklists, I always share with my team that

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these checklists are our little mini contracts for every turn.

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If you check that box on our Breezeway app, that means you've done that task.

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And you want to make sure that your inspector checklist is obviously very

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different from the cleaners checklist.

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They're looking for different things.

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They're doing different tasks.

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So Annette, anything else that you can think of we can offer Greer?

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I'm excited for you, and I just really want you to dig in and be

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creative because I'm sure if you start to have these conversations, there's

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more things that you could probably take off of your plate that the inspector

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might gladly add on to their plate.

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For example, do you need someone helping you shop for consumables?

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Do you need someone, um, helping you with social media?

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Do you need someone doing guest outreach?

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So there's just some other things I encourage you, if you have to get creative

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and it's going to be an investment, and you want to make sure that investment

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you're making in human capital, which is so important that, uh, just get

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creative with it, we're excited.

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Check back in with us.

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Let us know how it goes.

Sarah:

With that, I am Sarah Karakaian.

Annette:

I am Annette Grant, and together we are--

Both Annette & Sarah:

Thanks for Visiting.