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Sarah:My name is Sarah Karakaian.
Annette:I am Annette Grant, and together we are--
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Sarah:We've got a great question today about inspectors.
Questions:Hi, Sarah and Annette.
Questions:My name is Greer.
Questions:I'm from Gregory Hill Homes, on Instagram.
Questions:We are a short-term rental owner operator in Rhode Island.
Questions:I absolutely love you guys, love listening to you, and have gotten so many great
Questions:insights from you guys for this industry.
Questions:My question is about hiring.
Questions:I'm looking to hire inspectors to help with the cleaning process and
Questions:get some work off of my plate so I can focus on growing my business.
Questions:Um, I know that you guys have experience with that, so I was just wondering how you
Questions:went about hiring them for the first time.
Questions:Looking into it, it looks like I won't be able to hire them as
Questions:independent contractors, but employees.
Questions:So just wondering how you went about that, how you pay them.
Questions:Do you do it hourly or per turnover, um, if every house is the same, etc?
Questions:So any help and insight would be very helpful.
Questions:Thank you.
Sarah:All right.
Sarah:We have so much to say about this.
Sarah:Annette, do you want to get us started?
Annette:Well, first I want to thank Greer because number one, she's an amazing host.
Annette:Please check out her spaces in Rhode Island at Gregory Hill Homes.
Annette:She's actually been a STR Share Sunday.
Annette:So we thank you for being a loyal listener and contributor,
Annette:and let's talk about this.
Annette:Everyone, if you don't have an inspector, you might be the
Annette:inspector, but let's get an inspector.
Annette:Let's start really quick, Sarah.
Annette:Let's just give a rundown of what an inspector does.
Sarah:I love that.
Sarah:Yes, so an inspector is someone who helps you trust but verify the work of
Sarah:the cleaning team and lends an extra layer of support to the cleaning team.
Sarah:So on our team, our inspector comes, if they can, prior to the clean, and
Sarah:they do a little pre-clean checklist that can include filling all the
Sarah:soaps, bringing out a new sponge.
Sarah:If they can--
Annette:Starting laundry.
Sarah:Starting laundry.
Sarah:Yes.
Sarah:So those sorts of things.
Sarah:They let the cleaning team come and do their thing, and they come
Sarah:back in, they lint roll everything.
Sarah:They stage the curtains.
Sarah:We, of course, check all of the safety elements.
Sarah:They run their hands across the counter.
Sarah:So it really is just a [Inaudible] but verify.
Sarah:But also in our company, we treat them as just an extra layer for
Sarah:the cleaning team to lean on.
Annette:All right, so now that we know who the inspector is, Greer, the first
Annette:thing we want to tell you is, and this is for all listeners, this person definitely
Annette:needs to have a high attention to detail.
Annette:They are the detailer.
Annette:Some people call them the detailer in their company.
Annette:So that's number one when you are hiring.
Annette:Number two, this is something, um, you do want to make sure in you're
Annette:in alignment with this person.
Annette:I know Greer you had mentioned not being able to hire an independent contractor.
Annette:Need a little more info there, but listeners also, some people hire them as a
Annette:1099, which is an independent contractor.
Annette:Some people hire them as a W-2.
Annette:Of course, this is something that you're going to want to look very
Annette:specifically in your state, exactly how your business is set up, and
Annette:what you're asking this person to do.
Annette:But we want to encourage you, you're going to find the right person, but set up first
Annette:before you even go on the hunt for this person, what is that job description?
Annette:What are you going to want them to do?
Annette:And Greer, it sounds like your business is growing, and, um, this is an
Annette:opportunity that is that person just going to be an inspector or are you
Annette:going to have them do some other things?
Annette:But Sarah, let's talk about what she was asking of, the payment.
Annette:What type of compensation?
Annette:Is this a per turn?
Annette:Is it by the hour?
Annette:Are they driving a far away?
Annette:Are they going to be able to do multiple places?
Sarah:Here's the tricky part.
Sarah:In my experience, it can vary greatly whether or not you have
Sarah:a very small company, business.
Sarah:You have one property, two properties.
Sarah:I understand the pains there of how do you get someone to take ownership of the
Sarah:inspector position for you while you may only have two, three turnovers a week?
Sarah:So if that is you, put yourself in the potential inspector's
Sarah:shoes, in the detailers shoes.
Sarah:What's going to make it worth it to them to take ownership and pride
Sarah:into making sure every single one of your spaces is guest ready?
Sarah:In my opinion, that might be more of a per piece compensation.
Sarah:What is it going to be worth it for them to get a bed, go to your
Sarah:property, spend some time there?
Sarah:How many bedrooms?
Sarah:How many baths?
Sarah:Are they doing stuff on the outside?
Sarah:Are they checking the elements?
Sarah:Hopefully you're getting a professional to do the pool and the hot tub and things
Sarah:like that, but they might just make sure everything's locked up and ready for the
Sarah:guest and safety elements are in place.
Sarah:So think about that really deeply.
Sarah:It may not be, well, they're only there for an hour and a half.
Sarah:Well, sure, but if they're only turning over the property once or
Sarah:twice a week, it may not be worth it to them on that hourly rate.
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Annette:And some ways to get really creative, you may have an opportunity,
Annette:I have in the past had my turnover person also be the inspector.
Annette:And that was number one, because I really trusted this person.
Annette:They had the time to be able to turn the place, take a break, and then
Annette:go back into the property with an inspector's view, um, and know that
Annette:they were doing a separate job the next time that they went through the house.
Annette:And so I also just want to say, what does your turnover team look like right now?
Annette:Is that a one or two-person team?
Annette:Is there a way that you can maybe compensate them to do a secondary?
Annette:And say, this is not the clean, this is a second portion of
Annette:the work that's contracted.
Annette:That's a place that I would maybe look at, Greer, just because you said you couldn't
Annette:do the independent contractor thing.
Annette:I don't know what type of company you're using for your turnovers.
Annette:First, go to them, and maybe they even know someone.
Annette:Um, Sarah and I were just thinking there's a plethora of places to
Annette:look online, inside your network, see what other people are doing.
Annette:But this is definitely a place you are going to have to get creative, and you
Annette:are going to have to iterate most likely.
Annette:And the awesome part is you can continue to layer on more things.
Annette:So just really need to make sure that person's in alignment.
Annette:I would also see what your budget can handle.
Sarah:If you are a larger company out there loving this information or
Sarah:this conversation about inspectors, you can pay by the hour if you can
Sarah:offer your inspectors a larger shift.
Sarah:So for us right now, our inspectors start around 9:00, 9:30 in the morning, and
Sarah:they usually work until 4:30, 5 o'clock in the evening, depending on how busy our
Sarah:day is, how many back to backs we have.
Sarah:And then we have a couple inspectors, that way every day is covered in our business.
Sarah:That's how we work.
Sarah:I know other companies that have-- really large companies might have
Sarah:every inspector or property detailer has a section of homes or an area of
Sarah:homes that they take ownership of.
Sarah:So there's a lot of ways to structure this.
Sarah:There really is no one-size-fits-all.
Sarah:But I also want to give a shout out to one of our podcast sponsors, Breezeway.
Sarah:They help you dial in this inspector role.
Sarah:So whether you take Annette's advice and maybe see if the cleaning company
Sarah:has someone else, they can offer you to come and be the inspector or
Sarah:maybe the cleaner is the inspector.
Sarah:If they have two different checklists, I always share with my team that
Sarah:these checklists are our little mini contracts for every turn.
Sarah:If you check that box on our Breezeway app, that means you've done that task.
Sarah:And you want to make sure that your inspector checklist is obviously very
Sarah:different from the cleaners checklist.
Sarah:They're looking for different things.
Sarah:They're doing different tasks.
Sarah:So Annette, anything else that you can think of we can offer Greer?
Annette:I'm excited for you, and I just really want you to dig in and be
Annette:creative because I'm sure if you start to have these conversations, there's
Annette:more things that you could probably take off of your plate that the inspector
Annette:might gladly add on to their plate.
Annette:For example, do you need someone helping you shop for consumables?
Annette:Do you need someone, um, helping you with social media?
Annette:Do you need someone doing guest outreach?
Annette:So there's just some other things I encourage you, if you have to get creative
Annette:and it's going to be an investment, and you want to make sure that investment
Annette:you're making in human capital, which is so important that, uh, just get
Annette:creative with it, we're excited.
Annette:Check back in with us.
Annette:Let us know how it goes.
Sarah:With that, I am Sarah Karakaian.
Annette:I am Annette Grant, and together we are--
Both Annette & Sarah:Thanks for Visiting.