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Speaker:Hello everyone. Your eyes do not
Speaker:deceive you. This is my second live stream today.
Speaker:Candace. I think that's great. I feel super special.
Speaker:I think you should. I do. Not only do I have my hipster
Speaker:glasses on still, but in case you're wondering who the heck is
Speaker:this guy? I'm Frank Lavinia. You can catch me at the following URLs franksworld.com
Speaker:datadriven TV and of course Impact Quantum. And with me
Speaker:is Kansas Cooley. How's it going, Candace? It's going great.
Speaker:It's going great. I'm very excited. I'm very excited.
Speaker:It is cool. I was talking to somebody the other day about
Speaker:the march of technology and obviously everyone thinks about AI, but at one
Speaker:point, to do what we're doing now would have required thousands
Speaker:of dollars of equipment. And this is like 10 years ago. I remember
Speaker:when I was at Microsoft, my first stint at Microsoft,
Speaker:I was the one pushing for us to do more live streams out of the,
Speaker:the, the K Street office in dc. Okay, right. Because they would have these
Speaker:panel discussions all the time of, you know,
Speaker:DC Span type stuff, right. Which, you know, not exactly mass
Speaker:market appeal. And you know, one guy was
Speaker:like, you know, one firm would charge thousands of dollars per live stream, so they
Speaker:would hardly ever do it. And I'm like, you know, like we could
Speaker:do this with this particular type of equipment was a Tricaster
Speaker:Mini. And as the rest they say is history. So that's, so
Speaker:that Tricaster mini was about $10,000. And this is
Speaker:2013, 2014. It's when, when this was
Speaker:thing. So here we are. Now I can stream on my phone, I can
Speaker:stream on my, you know, laptop or whatever, all entirely in
Speaker:browser, which is pretty wild. It makes people who,
Speaker:you know, are not technical
Speaker:feel technical. Right. Because the
Speaker:tools are really easy to use. And I
Speaker:think that's a good segue because I think
Speaker:10 years from now we'll be looking at 2025, 2026
Speaker:in very much the same vein for Quantum. Right.
Speaker:And we're already seeing kind of these, these big, big shifts you were
Speaker:telling me about.
Speaker:Let me share this tab. This story
Speaker:comes to us from Reuters. And
Speaker:let's see if I can get that up on the screen. Come on.
Speaker:Ionq to buy Skywater for
Speaker:$1.8 billion. Now I know inflation is a
Speaker:thing, but $1.8 billion is still a lot of money, right?
Speaker:I think you can buy a house in the San Francisco Bay
Speaker:area for about that now.
Speaker:Really, it's, it's a tremendous amount of money that's coming out of
Speaker:a company that is not like
Speaker:Pepsi or Coke or like, not in a company that hasn't
Speaker:even been around a long, long time.
Speaker:Right. I mean, surprising. It was, it's
Speaker:a lot of money. And it is still a lot of money. And
Speaker:apparently there it's a hardware play and it's a cash for
Speaker:stock. And I think this is interesting. This is what this is, I think going
Speaker:to be the theme of the 2000s and as we close out the 2000s, which
Speaker:is very scary thing to say out loud.
Speaker:It's basically secure supply chains, chip
Speaker:manufacturing. I mean this is going to be the story of this, right? Semiconductor
Speaker:manufacturing in house and boost the next generation of
Speaker:quantum processors. Because I think, as most folks didn't know up until the pandemic
Speaker:was our semiconductors are made basically in a very small
Speaker:geographic part of the world. Right. Some of
Speaker:it on very contested real estate like Taiwan
Speaker:and basically Shenzhen and kind of that part
Speaker:of the world. All it would take would be for one
Speaker:geopolitical crisis to go the wrong way or a typhoon
Speaker:or an earthquake to really disrupt a vast
Speaker:majority of the supply of
Speaker:semiconductors in the world. And I think it's interesting that they, as a
Speaker:quantum computer company are acquiring something for this,
Speaker:but it's fascinating to see how this works.
Speaker:So their stock rose 4% in early morning
Speaker:trading and Skywater rose 8%. That's typical.
Speaker:But you were telling me that today their stock was kind of down. Right.
Speaker:So I, I read. So you know that they said that the, the stock
Speaker:dipped like it dipped, you know,
Speaker:in late 2025 and then again dipped in early
Speaker:2026. I think it dipped like a couple days ago.
Speaker:And it made me question why did this happen
Speaker:right after the Skywater deal was announced?
Speaker:Interesting. I thought, well, wait a minute, people should be into
Speaker:the idea of in house chip fabrication. I mean, look
Speaker:what we're dealing with, with, with Taiwan, like just what you're saying, it's a limited
Speaker:regional ownership and we,
Speaker:it's better that you know, if you're bringing it in house then you know,
Speaker:you could, you know, there's more competition. But
Speaker:I wondered if maybe the moves that they were making were just too big.
Speaker:Right. Because they also, if you look now. They'Re up, they're up a little bit
Speaker:today. Okay. Okay. So maybe. But I mean that always happens though, right? Like
Speaker:people will, I don't know, like, not that I'M a stock
Speaker:market genius. But weird things
Speaker:happens when, when people, like, buy and, like, there's acquisitions and stuff like
Speaker:that. Some of them go up, some of them go down. It's. I can't figure
Speaker:out the rationale.
Speaker:Yeah, I don't know, but they're hitting everything. I, I just, I was
Speaker:just looking at this like, we didn't talk about the, the, the acquisition
Speaker:of Skyloom Global. Right. Apparently they have a thing for the sky.
Speaker:Because when you told me that, I'm looking for the tab.
Speaker:And so, so I just did a search for acquisition, IonQ
Speaker:acquisition, and said that they completed Skyloom Global. And I thought, I remember this
Speaker:happening a little while ago, but I'm like. And then you sent me the
Speaker:link. I was like, yeah,
Speaker:11-25-25. And I was like, you sent me like, no,
Speaker:that's Sky Water. This is Sky Loom. So
Speaker:maybe, Candace, you and I should start a company called Sky Quantum. I'm telling
Speaker:you. And we'll get some of that sweet paper.
Speaker:Yes, I'm all for it. So, so, you know, so with,
Speaker:with, with Skywater, you have,
Speaker:you have hardware. With Sky Loom, it's all about
Speaker:quantum networking and communication capability,
Speaker:which is super important. Right.
Speaker:And then they had, they did a software
Speaker:acquisition with something called Seed Innovations,
Speaker:and. Really? Yeah. And Seed Innovations,
Speaker:they have an expertise in AI driven software,
Speaker:machine learning, and cloud automation. And
Speaker:it's an idea that, you know.
Speaker:It sounds like they're, they're building out the
Speaker:entire supply chain and software supply
Speaker:chain. I mean, it sounds like they want to be,
Speaker:they want to be like a big, big dog in this. It's looking like that.
Speaker:I mean, that sounds pretty cool. Like, you know,
Speaker:I mean, it's definitely. I think if anyone had
Speaker:any doubts about the future of what the quantum industry was going to be, I
Speaker:think, you know, when you start tossing around billions of dollars, like I said that
Speaker:that's. Now you're in real money, right? Like, you know, hundreds of millions of
Speaker:dollars is still real money. You might be able to buy a tiny condo in
Speaker:the Bay Area. Oh,
Speaker:for, for a couple hundred million. You can buy a solid house in D.C. for
Speaker:a couple hundred million. So. Right. That's like. I think Jeff
Speaker:Bezos's house was, Was that
Speaker:the county we used to live in? That would get you a nice big house.
Speaker:Okay. Yeah. Right where I grew up, you get a
Speaker:little, A nice, A nice little pad. Not today, though. I don't know.
Speaker:Yeah, but, but no, I mean, this is serious money, and
Speaker:I Think that you're going to see a lot of this. I'm
Speaker:sorry, go ahead. No, I want to tell you this because you're going to love
Speaker:this part. So IonQ also brought on a new
Speaker:CIO. Oh really? Defense
Speaker:tech experience. There it is.
Speaker:And you. Is this. If you check this
Speaker:out, like there's a lot of
Speaker:interesting here about the Department of War.
Speaker:Formulino's Department of Defense.
Speaker:It's interesting how there's a ban now on
Speaker:QKD or Quantum Key Distribution.
Speaker:That's interesting. Now they're hiring the former CIO
Speaker:of IonQ. That's interesting.
Speaker:800 million dollar revenue by 2027. That's.
Speaker:That's just next year. I mean this is very real, you
Speaker:know. Right. And I mean, remember we were talking about, you know,
Speaker:the next iteration of. Yeah. You know, where everything
Speaker:is going to go. Right. So. Yeah, this is, this is
Speaker:kind of right up what we were talking about. Right, Right.
Speaker:Yeah, yeah. So they're up, I don't know, depending on when this was
Speaker:written. So it's written in
Speaker:2026. So it's. They're already up 5%. So I guess the.
Speaker:Maybe what happens is with stock sometimes like it'll go up a certain amount, then
Speaker:people just dump it either through an automated thing like, hey, if it gets to
Speaker:this point, just dump it or, or whatever. But I, you know,
Speaker:but it's up nearly 300 over the last five years. I mean, that's.
Speaker:That's pretty good. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. So
Speaker:that's. I'm telling you, like this is the dawn of a new
Speaker:era. And you know,
Speaker:this is the dawn of a new era. Speaking of defense,
Speaker:military industrial complex, here's an interesting thing
Speaker:in. It's called the Intelligence Community News. Intelligence Community news dot
Speaker:com. I have no affiliation with them. I just somehow ended up on their.
Speaker:Oh, I remember I spoke at an event that they hosted. That's why I got
Speaker:on their mailing list. That's why it came in for
Speaker:my work email. Not. I'm gonna call it
Speaker:Sky. Sky Quantum. There we go. Sky Quantum. We gotta
Speaker:check it out, see if it's taken already. Yeah, seriously. Although by the time
Speaker:we check, it will be right. Because. Right.
Speaker:Just promises a ride on your private jet. But
Speaker:basically for those Outside of the D.C. metro or
Speaker:Baltimore Metro, IC usually means intelligence community.
Speaker:But it's interesting how this is starting to become more
Speaker:and more of a thing. Right? Like
Speaker:in the security space, quantum key distribution,
Speaker:quantum networking. We actually recorded an
Speaker:episode that's not out yet recently about
Speaker:quantum networking. Really brilliant, really
Speaker:brilliant conversation. But I mean, it's like,
Speaker:it's interesting how now the focus is, and the show we
Speaker:released today was about,
Speaker:you know, quantum safety and quantum preparedness. Right.
Speaker:And I think this is going to be another buzzword for the next decade
Speaker:is quantum safe. Yes, yes.
Speaker:Obviously the intelligence community is going to need it sooner
Speaker:than, than the average Joe or average
Speaker:Jane. But I, I mean, if you're a Fortune 5,
Speaker:500 company and you're not thinking about this,
Speaker:you're in trouble. Right. Like we said in the show, right
Speaker:now is not the time to panic now. That comes later.
Speaker:Right. But certainly you need to
Speaker:start thinking about this now. Right. Even if, even if your industry
Speaker:isn't, even if your, your industry isn't something that
Speaker:you know is, is going to be enhanced by
Speaker:quantum, then you're still going to have to
Speaker:secure the information that you have as a business. And that, that
Speaker:just, that is going to make you have to,
Speaker:you know, delve into, you know, quantum encryption.
Speaker:It's just to protect your data. Exactly.
Speaker:And if you're really worried about that, then there's also quantum safe networking.
Speaker:Quantum networking, right. So like protecting your data, I think is going to be the
Speaker:new baseline, like the table stakes of,
Speaker:of the future. Right. Even, even now. Right. I mean, it's just one of
Speaker:those things where even if you're in a, like you said, in the company industry,
Speaker:it doesn't really care about this if you're in the business of, you know,
Speaker:plowing driveways with snow. Right. Quantum is probably not
Speaker:going to radically change how you do your day to day. But your data
Speaker:best be protected with that lest, you know,
Speaker:I can't imagine a nation state would be interested in getting access to your
Speaker:data, though. Stranger things have
Speaker:happened. But certainly once the script kiddies get their hold of this
Speaker:post quantum stuff, everybody's at risk, you know,
Speaker:so don't think you're, if you think you're immune, you're already in trouble.
Speaker:Right. And speaking of, this is what is
Speaker:an interesting. Oh, Benita is brilliant. Really. This is a
Speaker:great episode. This really was a great episode.
Speaker:And she does work for IBM actually, and she is a leader
Speaker:very much tied into the same thing. Right. Quantum safe initiatives. Yes.
Speaker:And there's actually a whole thing apparently at IBM
Speaker:about this. Right. Making the world quantum safe.
Speaker:And yes, that is a red fedora you see behind me. Right. So full
Speaker:disclosure, I, I do work in my day job for
Speaker:Red Hat, which is an IBM company. Right. So I'm not,
Speaker:you know, I don't know what the regulatory things like you know, have to
Speaker:say but like I mean IBM really is on top of this. Call me
Speaker:IBM, give me a call. I'm ready to talk to you. Give me a
Speaker:call. So you're like IBM, you're like IBM royalty.
Speaker:Well, you know, I gotta, I gotta go by my maiden name. But yeah,
Speaker:so there's probably a conference room named after your dad or
Speaker:something. It very well might be right. But so go on. You're talking about the,
Speaker:oh, NIST Post Quantum Cryptography Standards. Absolutely.
Speaker:Standards and practices. I mean it's needed
Speaker:guidelines out there. 100. My wife works at NIST,
Speaker:not working on this. Although did I ever tell you that story?
Speaker:My older two boys, when we live closer to nist, went
Speaker:to the daycare center there and there was some kid there
Speaker:who, you know, you go there, you pick up your
Speaker:kids, sometimes you chit chat with the parents. Right. It's kind of a typical daycare.
Speaker:Right. But one day they had this thing for
Speaker:they might have been Mother's Day, like what does my mom do at work? Or
Speaker:something like that. And you know, the kids put, you know, what their moms did.
Speaker:And unless one kid had like, you know, my mom
Speaker:works on quantum crypto, post quantum
Speaker:cryptography. And this was my God, I mean
Speaker:to trying to think like my oldest would have been in kindergarten. So
Speaker:this is like 11 years ago. And
Speaker:I was like holy cow, that's cool. Like, you know, so I don't know,
Speaker:it's small world I suppose what I'm trying to say. But this has been on
Speaker:this problem for a while because I think a lot of people thought about, been
Speaker:thinking about this for quite some time.
Speaker:I don't know where I was going. With that but, but that's why understanding that,
Speaker:you know, every business needs to protect their data. If everyone can kind of
Speaker:just understand that basic, then
Speaker:it'll make adoption of new standards and practices.
Speaker:It'll just, it'll, it'll, it'll happen, you know, more smoothly.
Speaker:You know, like I, I was, I, I just had a conversation with somebody
Speaker:and we were just talking about climate and I said, you know,
Speaker:imagine when finally, you know, we have, you know,
Speaker:quantum efforts looking at climate
Speaker:predictions and we, you know, look at this massive craziness that
Speaker:happened over the past week, you know, where everyone
Speaker:heard they were going to get snow. And I'm in Montreal, by the way.
Speaker:I just want to preface that by saying and of course my mom is in
Speaker:New York. So I'm, like, always obsessed with what's going on there, because that's where
Speaker:I'm from. But, you know, people are predicting what, like,
Speaker:2 inches to 25 inches? That's what. That's what we got here
Speaker:in Maryland was like, well, you're either going to get 2 inches or 2ft.
Speaker:Like, it was kind of like what we ended up getting, about 14 inches, I'd
Speaker:say. Okay. But. But, but again, it's relevant again,
Speaker:because I haven't looked today, but there's a nor' Easter
Speaker:brewing. Yeah. And depending how far it is from the core, from the
Speaker:coast, we're either going to get another significant
Speaker:snowfall, and for us, that's like five, six inches.
Speaker:Five, six inches of snow is like, you know, you
Speaker:know, a warm spring. Day in Montreal, a day that ends in y.
Speaker:Right. Absolutely right. But no, seriously, just think of all the
Speaker:effects. I mean, you know, everything from schools. Right. To.
Speaker:And then to flights, you know, airlines. Oh, yeah. I mean,
Speaker:flights. Flights have just been completely disrupted. You know,
Speaker:there's a. In case you're wondering, Frank, why are you wearing these hipster
Speaker:glasses? You know, I had a concussion almost a month ago, and,
Speaker:like, I was supposed to be going. I was supposed to be in Vegas this
Speaker:week because there's a big internal conference going on, and
Speaker:my doctor's like, there's no way in hell you're going to. Basically was
Speaker:kind of what he said. And.
Speaker:But, I mean, my God, I mean, I'm seeing stories about people
Speaker:being stuck, like, you know, in Dallas and stuck here now. I think
Speaker:it's working its way through the system now, but still, I can't imagine what that
Speaker:would be like. Like, oh, right. And obviously, news stories. Yeah, it's great.
Speaker:But also not for nothing in Toronto, which is, you know, financial
Speaker:capital of. Of, you know, Canada,
Speaker:Pearson Major International Airport, it was hit with
Speaker:legitimately, like, two feet of snow. And of all the. Of all the
Speaker:airports in the world, that they're probably best equipped, certainly
Speaker:in North America, like, one of the best equipped to handle that sort of thing.
Speaker:But no, it's. It's an interesting.
Speaker:But, I mean, I. I'm looking at the. The forecast for this weekend, and they're
Speaker:like, well, you know, nothing will happen or you'll get another dump of snow. Like,
Speaker:it doesn't really help for planning. No, it really doesn't. And
Speaker:then people go crazy and they. And they. And they go to the supermarket and
Speaker:they wipe out the supermarket of eggs. And milk and butter and
Speaker:bread and. And, you know, the salt that
Speaker:you put on the driveways and the, you know, and it's just like
Speaker:you can't. And the funny is really. It's really also a language thing.
Speaker:Honest to goodness. Like, I watch the American news and the Canadian
Speaker:news every night. Right. And the way they talk about the
Speaker:same storm is hilarious because like in the States,
Speaker:it's like the death march across the country
Speaker:of snow and, you know, people losing power
Speaker:and, you know, just making it like a apocalyptic, you know. And
Speaker:then, well, too, in their defense, if you're like this, that's the thing.
Speaker:Like, if you're in the south, like, they really can't handle this.
Speaker:No, like Tennessee got wiped out by several inches of snow because they just don't
Speaker:even know how to handle that. They don't. Forget it. You know, that's fair.
Speaker:That makes sense. Do you know? But like, in Canada. Most of Canada is north
Speaker:of a certain, what, the 49th parallel or something like that? Like
Speaker:the majority of it. So, like, snow would just hat. Like you said, it's a
Speaker:day ending in Wired Montreal,
Speaker:at least in. I'd say D.C. is about as far south as you
Speaker:go in the US where they can actually handle snow. Okay. And
Speaker:even then, people in Chicago will say, we don't
Speaker:know how to handle snow. Yeah, I
Speaker:suppose, compared to Chicago, but they can at least handle it. When I lived in
Speaker:Richmond, Richmond, they wouldn't put salt down. They would do this
Speaker:thing where they throw sand down and the only thing sand did was make a
Speaker:mess. You know, floor mats in your car would be dirty, your rugs in your
Speaker:house would be dirty. That's the only thing it ever did. I. I don't. It
Speaker:was like, it's salt. It's not complicated. Like, But.
Speaker:Nope. But again, they would get it so rarely that they just never
Speaker:invested in the infrastructure. I got stuck in my hotel in Dallas a
Speaker:couple years ago when they had like 2 inches of snow and
Speaker:like a quarter inch ice. Right. The
Speaker:ice is hell. Like, you can't. Yeah. No one can drive on it. And
Speaker:you have to respect it. Nature is. Nature is just stronger than
Speaker:you are. And, you know, you have to give in. I mean, that's like when
Speaker:I first moved here and. And all of a sudden my kids had to have
Speaker:two pairs of shoes. You had your. Oh, yeah, you were telling me about that.
Speaker:Yeah. Crazy. You'd your winter boots. And then when they got inside the
Speaker:school, then they put on their sneakers. Okay. But they
Speaker:had to leave their sneakers at the school so that they would be there
Speaker:for them the next day. So if they had an activity
Speaker:that they needed their sneakers at outside of school, well, then the kids
Speaker:had three pairs of shoes. It just was like, right.
Speaker:But then you kind of, kind of got it, you know what I mean? Otherwise
Speaker:everything would be wet and kids would be schlepping around in, in,
Speaker:in heavy, heavy boots all the time. So it just, it just made sense.
Speaker:But. Oh, anyway, we digress. We digress.
Speaker:Just real quick, a special surprise.
Speaker:What's our special surprise? Candace? I'm very excited about
Speaker:this. I really, really am. We're going to be launching a new
Speaker:podcast and it's going to be called Women in
Speaker:Quantum. And I'm really, really excited
Speaker:about it because I want young
Speaker:women to understand that they get
Speaker:to be curious and there gets to be a space for them in
Speaker:the ecosystem when they find out how different
Speaker:women that, you know, we're going to be speaking to all came
Speaker:upon Quantum in very different ways. That was the
Speaker:thing that really struck me was like, you know, not. And not just women, men
Speaker:too, but like, you know, the stem fields tend to be
Speaker:male biased anyway. But like, you know,
Speaker:we've met some interesting characters since restarting this podcast almost a
Speaker:year ago and like, the stories of how some people get to
Speaker:Quantum are just like, really like, wow, like, how'd that happen?
Speaker:You know, because it's not linear necessarily at all. It is
Speaker:very non linear, which I suppose is very appropriate. Very appropriate.
Speaker:Absolutely apropos. But yeah, so like just today I was
Speaker:speaking to this really exciting individual who was
Speaker:born in Russia and,
Speaker:and the experience that she had in school
Speaker:was very different than the experience the lady
Speaker:that I spoke to yet last week, who was, who was born and raised in
Speaker:Egypt. Okay. And then there's another woman
Speaker:who I spoke to who was born and raised in Iran, and
Speaker:it's just incredibly interesting to see how very much the
Speaker:culture will define the opportunity.
Speaker:Yes, by and large, I, I don't think we're
Speaker:completely victims of our circumstance. But yes, I mean, it
Speaker:definitely does set the tone. And
Speaker:yeah, no, I'm, I'm really, I haven't listened to the recordings yet, but I'm really
Speaker:looking forward to it. I am too. I'm really, really, really excited about it.
Speaker:So, so we, we don't have a logo quite to reveal yet, but soon,
Speaker:soon. So stay tuned, folks. And
Speaker:I have to jet. But
Speaker:if you're listening to this, because we're also going to post this on the main
Speaker:feed too, you know, thanks for watching. Thanks for
Speaker:listening. Thanks for watching all that stuff. Any. Any parting thoughts, Candice?
Speaker:You know what? I want everyone to stay safe and be kind.
Speaker:And that's like parting. Parting note. And stay warm, too, because
Speaker:there's still winter. Yes. Yes, it
Speaker:is. All right, with that, we'll play the outro music
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