Welcome back to become a calm mama. I'm your host. I'm
Speaker:A Childress. And today is part
Speaker:of a 2 part series that I'm gonna do on being on the same
Speaker:page with your co parent. This is a question I get
Speaker:often of, like, how do you handle it when your
Speaker:husband or your partner isn't on board? Or how do you
Speaker:handle it when you're divorced and you don't know what's going on with the other
Speaker:parent or they're not aligned with your parenting philosophy?
Speaker:And the question really, I think a all of that
Speaker:is, is my kid gonna be okay if my
Speaker:co parent doesn't practice compassionate parenting?
Speaker:If my co parent is harsh with my kids, if
Speaker:my co parent is too permissive. So the fear
Speaker:under there is really about the future.
Speaker:Like, is my kid gonna be okay even
Speaker:if my partner isn't on the same page?
Speaker:So the quick answer to this is yes.
Speaker:Okay? And the reason why a to
Speaker:get it right up at the beginning of this episode is
Speaker:that when we think about the future and like, is
Speaker:our kid a to be okay? We have to understand what is required
Speaker:of being okay. Like, what does that even mean?
Speaker:So, essentially, what we're looking for is what I
Speaker:think of as emotional health. Right? So that's why a lot of my programs
Speaker:are, like, emotionally healthy kids, emotionally healthy teens. It's
Speaker:really how do we set our kids up for success
Speaker:in their adult life so that they feel good.
Speaker:Right? That they feel confident, that they feel,
Speaker:that they love themselves, that they're they know how to be in a.
Speaker:And all of that requires emotional
Speaker:literacy. And what is emotional literacy? It goes to
Speaker:knowing what I'm feeling, being able to go
Speaker:inside of myself a know, like, if there's a difficult circumstance,
Speaker:I need to have self awareness. If I'm aware of myself, myself, if I'm
Speaker:aware of my feelings a I know what to do with those feelings,
Speaker:then I can kind of handle anything in life. So emotional
Speaker:literacy is I know what I'm feeling. I know how to talk about it, and
Speaker:I know what to do with them. So if you think about
Speaker:any kind of interpersonal relationship issue or
Speaker:inter interpersonal, like within myself, If there's a
Speaker:situation in my life that is difficult, then I'm gonna need
Speaker:to process my emotion about it and talk about it and understand
Speaker:how to move through that feeling and what to do about it,
Speaker:either changing my circumstance or talking to a person or
Speaker:changing the way I think about something. So emotional literacy
Speaker:is the core value that we have
Speaker:in our in this program of how do we help our kids
Speaker:grow up to be okay. So the good news,
Speaker:okay, the best news ever is that you only need
Speaker:a person in your life to help you
Speaker:learn emotional literacy. It's great
Speaker:if you have 2 people, 5 people, a community, a
Speaker:whole society that is literally
Speaker:literate and aware and empathetic and helps people
Speaker:process their negative emotion a when that's what my goal
Speaker:is, is to create a society where we have a bunch of emotionally literate
Speaker:humans. Right? Healing the next generation in advance is my
Speaker:vision. But when you
Speaker:are in your own life with you
Speaker:and your family, and you might have an explosive parent
Speaker:or an overly permissive parent or a harsh parent
Speaker:or emotionally disconnected parent that you are co parenting
Speaker:alongside. And you look at how they're acting with your kid and
Speaker:you're like, wait a second. They are going to mess up my kid.
Speaker:They're gonna unravel all the work I'm doing. They're messing it all
Speaker:up. And that creates fear for the
Speaker:future, and it creates resentment towards your co parent whether
Speaker:you live with them or not. So I want you to have a fear
Speaker:free and resentment free experience of raising kids.
Speaker:So a the way that we overcome that fear and
Speaker:that resentment is by understanding
Speaker:that all my child needs this one, the one that I'm raising,
Speaker:maybe you've got a few, but all that they each need
Speaker:is a person who helps them understand
Speaker:their inner world. One person who helps them
Speaker:narrate and name what's happening for them,
Speaker:one emotional coach. I
Speaker:hope that just hearing that makes you go,
Speaker:like a big exhale because I know what
Speaker:it's like to have a parent, a co parent. My co parent is
Speaker:really great. Kevin and I've been married a long time, and, you know, he's
Speaker:a he's a he's on board. Right? We're on the same page, but we haven't
Speaker:always been. Because I was learning all of these
Speaker:philosophies and how to be compassionate and empathy and growing
Speaker:my own emotional regulation, I was doing that before he was
Speaker:doing it. I kind of brought it into our lives. And
Speaker:so there was a lot of times early on, and even now, for
Speaker:sure, we both lose our shit sometimes with our kids or with our lives.
Speaker:Like, we're not perfect a. But whenever he would
Speaker:act, you know, in his humanness and not be
Speaker:processing his emotion and not regulated, it would
Speaker:freak me out. I would, like, go in and intervene
Speaker:and, you know, run interference and triangulate me and
Speaker:the kids in him and kind of put him into, like, he's the bad guy
Speaker:and I'm the good guy a the kids are the victim of their dad's behavior
Speaker:a all of this cuckoo land stuff that
Speaker:actually prevented Kevin
Speaker:from understanding the impact of his
Speaker:behavior on the kids. When I was always kind of,
Speaker:you know, hyper a and managing everybody and, you
Speaker:know, intervening all the time, a in terms of,
Speaker:like, making sure everything worked well so that Kevin didn't get
Speaker:mad. Okay? Like, a perfectionist
Speaker:perfectionistic way of approaching my family, especially early
Speaker:on. Like, a, I'm on a tangent here. I'm sorry. But
Speaker:literally, like, when they were real little, I would know oh my god. It's
Speaker:embarrassing to say this. But I would know he was coming home, like, at 6:45,
Speaker:7:7:30, whatever. He would text me or we didn't really have text back then, to
Speaker:be honest. He said he'd call me, and he'd say I'm on my way home.
Speaker:And then I would, like, get the kids together. We would, like,
Speaker:clean up the, you know, all the toys, and we would get ourselves settled. And
Speaker:I would, like, regulate the children, make sure they got all their wiggles out, let
Speaker:them know daddy was coming home. And I swear there was this part of me
Speaker:that was like, should I put a ribbon in my hair a, like, a nice
Speaker:dress on, like, a 19 fifties housewife and be ready for my man to come
Speaker:in? Like, ew. But my reason for doing
Speaker:that was fear. I didn't want Kevin
Speaker:to come home and mess up
Speaker:all the good work I had done with the children all day. So I didn't
Speaker:trust him, and I didn't trust the process.
Speaker:What I didn't understand back then that I am teaching you right now,
Speaker:so you don't have to do what I did, is that
Speaker:you don't need to have every moment in every
Speaker:relationship with your children be perfect
Speaker:or be in the model, in the calm mama model
Speaker:in order for it to work. Because when
Speaker:we define work it, like, does it work?
Speaker:All we're talking about is the long term emotional health of our kids.
Speaker:So I wanna get into some practical
Speaker:strategies of how to actually handle an explosive a, how
Speaker:to actually talk about it with your partner or, you know, your co
Speaker:parent if you're not partnered with them a, you know,
Speaker:problem solve with you. But I really want you
Speaker:to understand that sort
Speaker:of no matter what happens in your
Speaker:child's life, there's going to be pain.
Speaker:There's going to be struggle. They're not always going
Speaker:to have it be go their way. They're
Speaker:gonna not be invited to the birthday party. They're gonna have, you
Speaker:know, problems in the class and the teacher might correct them in a way that
Speaker:you don't agree with. They might not make the
Speaker:team. You know, they they might they might have something tragic a in
Speaker:their lives that is outside of your control.
Speaker:And you'll worry, oh my God, this is a mess them up for
Speaker:life. Don't put that thought in your head. Just know
Speaker:every pain, every experience
Speaker:is just an emotional experience. And when you
Speaker:can process that pain, when you can move through it
Speaker:in a way that is, I know what I'm feeling. I know how to talk
Speaker:about it. I know what to do with a. And you keep reinforcing that.
Speaker:Your long term child can handle anything.
Speaker:The future kid that you're raising, you're giving them the
Speaker:resilience that they need for the future in real
Speaker:time now. It's beautiful. I'm excited about it. So
Speaker:I just wanna remind you, like, your kids are gonna be okay if you keep
Speaker:at the calm mama process. So let's
Speaker:break that down for a second and I wanna talk about, like, what does
Speaker:being on the same page even mean a where does it go
Speaker:wrong? Okay? So being on the same
Speaker:page a is my
Speaker:partner and I or my co parent and I, we have the same,
Speaker:a parenting philosophy. Like, we agree
Speaker:on our parenting philosophy. So the calm process,
Speaker:the parenting philosophy is feelings first, behavior second.
Speaker:That's a really easy way to to break it down. So
Speaker:you say, okay. Do we agree that emotional
Speaker:coaching is important for our kids? That compassion or helping our
Speaker:kids process negative emotion is an important thing.
Speaker:So you can ask your co a,
Speaker:hey, what do you think? Do you value this?
Speaker:Do we agree? I think that's a really
Speaker:beautiful place to start. And and asking
Speaker:even if you don't live with your co parent. Right? Even if you could just
Speaker:be like, hey. You know what? I'm learning a lot. This is something that is
Speaker:really revealed to me, is really important to me, and I want
Speaker:to, you know, make sure that you're on the same page with me. And that
Speaker:is that I believe that feelings matter a that it's important for our
Speaker:children to have a safe place to express those feelings and learn
Speaker:how to deal with their feelings. Are you into
Speaker:that? Are you, you know, do
Speaker:agree that that's a piece?
Speaker:My guess is that most people would say yes,
Speaker:especially if you have, like, this conversation about the philosophy.
Speaker:Most parents, we just blindly, like, move through our day and our life and, you
Speaker:know, that kind of thing. And we don't get to, you know,
Speaker:actually, like, big picture, you know, what are we
Speaker:doing here? I love having big picture a are we
Speaker:doing here a, particularly with my partner.
Speaker:The second part of being on the same page is the approach to that philosophy,
Speaker:the actual strategies and tools that we use. So
Speaker:if you have a a struggle with your co parent, I would like you to
Speaker:kind of figure out, is it is it that we don't agree
Speaker:on the philosophy itself, or are the tactics or
Speaker:approach that we're taking in conflict? So
Speaker:just breaking that down is helpful. Now, how does this show up?
Speaker:Okay? If both people agree,
Speaker:right, that compassionate parenting is the goal or like that's
Speaker:our approach, right? In the A Mama process, we have these
Speaker:4 parts. We have calm, connect, limit set
Speaker:correct. So a the approach to the
Speaker:philosophy can break down in in these areas. So
Speaker:the first is it sounds complicated. It's not. 1st, it's calm.
Speaker:Right? So, essentially, we have a human, a a,
Speaker:who is either self regulated or dysregulated.
Speaker:So if you have a co parent who's like, I really am into this
Speaker:philosophy, but I have a lot of trouble self regulating,
Speaker:then that means they need to be working on calm. They need to be
Speaker:working on their own stress management, their anger management, how
Speaker:they process their emotions, self compassion, all of those
Speaker:strategies around calm. So that is an approach issue.
Speaker:Right? They're not they're not able to to
Speaker:in, like, reinforce a philosophy because they don't have the
Speaker:skill of self regulation. You cannot do the calm mama
Speaker:process when you are dysregulated. So that's why we
Speaker:always go back to the pause break. We always stop. We check-in with ourselves. We
Speaker:calm our bodies. We calm our stress. We calm our minds. And
Speaker:then we go to connect. So the way that
Speaker:the being on the same page breaks down with connection
Speaker:is a if you're in the process and you're
Speaker:in the approach, you're emotionally coaching your kids using the connection
Speaker:tool. Hey, honey. You know, you're screaming a lot. You're
Speaker:hitting your brother. You're spitting. You're you're throwing stuff.
Speaker:I wonder if you're feeling overwhelmed. Right? So when you're naming that
Speaker:emotion and we're narrating the circumstance, narrating the
Speaker:behavior, and we're helping our kids label what's going
Speaker:on, and then we give them a strategy. And now what strategy of, like,
Speaker:makes sense? You're not allowed to hit your brother, but you are allowed to be
Speaker:overwhelmed. Why don't you what do you need right now? What do you wanna do
Speaker:to take care of yourself? Or you can set a limit, like, you can come
Speaker:back once you're calm. Now if
Speaker:the parent is not emotional coaching,
Speaker:right, if they believe that that's a value, but they're not actually doing
Speaker:it, then what they might be doing is emotional bypassing. So they're
Speaker:just like, hey. Get over it. It's not that big of a
Speaker:deal. Don't worry about it. Just cut it
Speaker:out. You know, be a. Good effort. Right?
Speaker:If they are not allowing for the big
Speaker:feelings to come out, they may say, I I believe in this.
Speaker:But then when it happens, they may not have the skill of emotional coaching,
Speaker:or they might be like, actually, I don't think their feelings
Speaker:really do matter. You can talk about that with your co parent. You'd be like,
Speaker:hey. I noticed that you're like, hey. Cut it out. Stop crying.
Speaker:It's not that big of a deal. Are you trying to stuff their
Speaker:emotion? Are you trying to bypass it? Are you trying to, you know,
Speaker:shift them away from their feelings instead of allowing them to
Speaker:express their feelings? So you can, you know,
Speaker:look from a neutral place, especially if you're not afraid
Speaker:of the future. You're not like, you have to be kinder. You're gonna
Speaker:mess up our kids. It's like going to your partner or
Speaker:your co a to be like, hey. I heard you say
Speaker:this, and I'm just wondering, you know, is it
Speaker:aligned with the value that you have? You know, do you need some
Speaker:support of, like, how to actually let them have their feelings?
Speaker:To be honest, letting someone have their feelings is just letting them have their feelings.
Speaker:Just, you know, keeping people safe and making sure that,
Speaker:you know, they're learning new tools and strategies to process that
Speaker:emotion. Honestly okay.
Speaker:So that's kind of the more traditional way of
Speaker:seeing somebody who is, not approaching
Speaker:connect, you know, in in the philosophy. Like, they're,
Speaker:like, shoving the kids' feelings down.
Speaker:But sometimes, some parents are actually
Speaker:they are emotional excusers. Right? So instead of
Speaker:emotional coaches, they're emotionally excusers. Like,
Speaker:oh, you're sad. Okay. You can you know, I'll give you
Speaker:another cookie or, oh, you're sad. And they don't they
Speaker:just allow that feeling to just get stuck, and they just kinda
Speaker:get in this cycle of, you know, not really coaching the child through
Speaker:the feeling, giving the child strategies to cope with that feeling
Speaker:a just almost like an emotional indulgence and then going, well,
Speaker:they're really tired. They're really hungry.
Speaker:You know, they're really sad, and that's why they're acting that way. But there's not
Speaker:any follow through. So you might see that. That's kind of the
Speaker:permissive parent model. So the other
Speaker:areas that I'll talk about next week are, like, around limit setting. Maybe you
Speaker:have in our philosophy, we're doing logical limit setting.
Speaker:Right? We're setting limits that get our kids to think. But maybe your co
Speaker:parent is using limits as rules, like
Speaker:fear based, harsh, a lot of commands, a lot of
Speaker:threats, a lot of emotional manipulation
Speaker:that might feel like, you know, don't do that. Right? Or you could
Speaker:have it where the person's like, who cares? No rules. Let's just let them stay
Speaker:up and eat cookies, and it doesn't matter. And, like, let's just be
Speaker:free. That might feel, you know, really difficult for you.
Speaker:So looking at the limit setting, it's
Speaker:like if you're doing the model, you're in a logical limit setting,
Speaker:you know, follow through shame free, pain
Speaker:free, logical, and natural consequences. Right? That's limit set
Speaker:correct. Or you might have a parent who's fear based and punitive
Speaker:or a parent that's no rules and permissive. So I'm
Speaker:gonna like I said, I'm gonna talk about next week. I'm gonna talk about limit
Speaker:setting and correction. But today, I wanna talk mostly about calm and connect and
Speaker:how to handle that Become we do feelings first, behavior
Speaker:second. Right? So that's you know, I wanna talk about feelings, and then
Speaker:we'll talk about behavior second. Let's get into when
Speaker:your co parent is dysregulated, when
Speaker:they are, you know, not
Speaker:calm. Okay? And this can look like an explosive parent
Speaker:or needlessly critical, aggressive,
Speaker:insulting, using shame for discipline, shows
Speaker:up in any unhealthy way. Your
Speaker:what's going on there is that you have a parent who
Speaker:probably is overwhelmed or stressed. They are not calm.
Speaker:When a person is acting that way, especially with their kid, they
Speaker:don't wanna show up that way. Right? They're in their own overwhelm
Speaker:or their their ego, like, their own fear that their
Speaker:Childress, like, getting away with something or being disrespectful a that's not how I would
Speaker:talk to my parent. A they're in their own head. They're in
Speaker:their own a, and they're acting that out.
Speaker:Now I used to be like this. Right?
Speaker:I was not calm. I wasn't always able
Speaker:to manage my feelings and then help my kid manage theirs. I'm
Speaker:sure many of you are there in that spot where you're still learning about
Speaker:yourself and your self a, and you're working hard at
Speaker:it and probably doing a pretty good job. And you look at
Speaker:your co a, and they're having a rough mama. And you're like, what is wrong
Speaker:with them? You know, but you're still doing the same thing. That's what I notice
Speaker:is that I'm very critical of my partner and not as self aware
Speaker:of, like, when I am losing my my shit. I'm always like,
Speaker:well, I'm working on it. You know, it's fine. And he's like, well,
Speaker:I am too, but I don't have as much compassion for him.
Speaker:Probably because I don't have a lot of compassion for myself. Anyway,
Speaker:your co a. Okay? If they are having trouble
Speaker:regulating their emotion and they're explosive a they're or they're
Speaker:emotionally checked out or they shut down or they walk away with a steely silence,
Speaker:whatever they're doing to cope with their big feelings, I want you to
Speaker:recognize that they are dysregulated. And they're not
Speaker:it's not that they're a bad a. It's not that they're a jerk. It's not
Speaker:that they don't care. Because if you come from judgment and criticism,
Speaker:you aren't going to be able to support that person.
Speaker:Honestly, even if you don't live with them. Okay? Even if they've been a jerk
Speaker:to you and you are divorced and you can't stand
Speaker:them, everybody in
Speaker:the world is behaving the way they are behaving because of their
Speaker:feelings. Either they don't know how to
Speaker:cope with those feelings, they don't know a communicate with those feelings, or
Speaker:they're desperately trying to change the circumstance in order to feel better.
Speaker:That it's like a control thing. Right? So
Speaker:get growing in your own compassion for your co parent will help you
Speaker:help your family because you won't come from fear and
Speaker:criticism. Now I made
Speaker:mistakes as a parent. I acted my big feeling cycles
Speaker:out. I, you know, exploded on my kids. I
Speaker:had parenting temper tantrums. And then I would see
Speaker:their face. I would see their sadness. I would see
Speaker:the boys crying. I would see them, you know, harsh turn away from
Speaker:me, any of that. And that
Speaker:experience broke my heart.
Speaker:It softened me and made me wanna become a better
Speaker:person, better mother. I didn't wanna show up like
Speaker:that, but I had to fail in order to change.
Speaker:So that might be you as well. Right? You might
Speaker:have shown up in a way that's not calm and not not the way you
Speaker:wanna be. And that's why you listen to this podcast. You're like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker:No. That's me. I wanna get all these tools. Right? So you
Speaker:are learning and growing and partly motivated
Speaker:by your child and your relationship with your child.
Speaker:Because you wanna have a good relationship with your child and you want them to
Speaker:have a good relationship with themselves a you want them to have a good relationship
Speaker:with the world. Now your co parent,
Speaker:they are also in a relationship with their
Speaker:child, and it's their job to decide how
Speaker:they want their relationship to play out as the child gets older a
Speaker:it's their job to take action to create the relationship they want.
Speaker:Listen carefully. It's not your responsibility to preserve
Speaker:your child's relationship with their parent. It's not
Speaker:on you. Of course, there are things that you can do to
Speaker:support your Childress help them understand what's happening.
Speaker:You can help your co parent learn self a, or you can
Speaker:give them compassion and offer them tools if they're
Speaker:open. But, ultimately,
Speaker:your your responsibility is only to the emotional health of your
Speaker:child, and that might mean they need to process their negative emotion about
Speaker:their parent, like a other parent, and you calm be
Speaker:available for that. But you don't need to run interference
Speaker:Become what happens is you prevent your co parent from
Speaker:going through the entire process of I
Speaker:lose my shit. I hurt my kid. I have to then
Speaker:apologize to my kid and fix it and deal with my own feelings
Speaker:of guilt. Now not every person feels guilty.
Speaker:Some people feel shame like, oh my god. What's wrong with me? Something's deep a
Speaker:deeply disturbed and then they can't deal with that shame so the shame turns to
Speaker:blame. And they're like, it's not me. It's the kid. If the kid
Speaker:would just be, you know, stop being a jerk, I would need to be a
Speaker:jerk. So if that's where your parent, your co parent
Speaker:is, that's where they are. There's nothing you can do about that. They have
Speaker:to just go through the process. So if
Speaker:your co parent is in a dysregulated
Speaker:explosive way, your role
Speaker:is to support your co parent if that's a,
Speaker:but mostly, it's to emotionally coach your kid. So let me
Speaker:break that down a I know this episode is going a little bit long, but
Speaker:I'm just gonna get through it. So
Speaker:if you have a explosive co parent or a co parent that
Speaker:has trouble with this with with emotional regulation,
Speaker:there's a few different types of interventions you can have.
Speaker:So the first is a preventative conversation.
Speaker:Now this is only possible really if you have a decent relationship with
Speaker:that partner and they are
Speaker:wanting to be on the same page as you with terms to of
Speaker:parenting approach. So even if they're
Speaker:not, you can do this at any time, honestly. Like, if
Speaker:you have an explosive parent, then I would love for you to have what I
Speaker:call a preventative conversation. So a conversation
Speaker:outside of the moment. You see a pattern a
Speaker:you go in and you discuss the pattern with the co parent.
Speaker:So you say, you know, to them, you know,
Speaker:hey. Is explosive behavior that you do? I,
Speaker:like, I understand you get overwhelmed, you get frustrated with the kids, you get angry
Speaker:with them. That makes perfect sense. I understand.
Speaker:I do it too. But my goal for this family is that
Speaker:everybody stays safe a that includes emotionally safe.
Speaker:My goal for these kids is that they don't get dumped upon
Speaker:by us. So dumping your
Speaker:big feelings or blaming your kids or, you know, being explosive
Speaker:with them, that doesn't work. So when I see you acting this
Speaker:way, I'm gonna intervene. I'm gonna say, hey. Everyone
Speaker:stay safe in this house. Please take a break.
Speaker:So actually going and telling your parent, your co parent,
Speaker:when I see this behavior, I am gonna say something.
Speaker:Because my role is to help our kids be emotionally and
Speaker:physically safe in this house. So I will intervene. So you're
Speaker:telling them in advance. And if
Speaker:you are really close, you know, you have a good relationship, you can be like,
Speaker:hey. What's going on? Do you wanna show up this way with our kids? Like,
Speaker:I know you don't. So what can you do instead?
Speaker:And you create kind of a little a, right, where you're like, hey.
Speaker:Tap out. I'm overwhelmed. This has helped
Speaker:a lot in my relationship with Kevin. Like, there's been times where I'm
Speaker:like, uh-uh. You need a break. Because I can see that
Speaker:he's doing too a. You know, he's, like, way overwhelmed.
Speaker:But like I said before, also, sometimes I let it play out
Speaker:because it's on him to find his own way to regulate himself. But that took
Speaker:me a long time. I used to intervene every time. I used to have
Speaker:him, like, top out every time, and I would shut him down and shut his
Speaker:relationship with the boys down. And I've learned over time that
Speaker:it's better for him to go through the entire dysregulation process
Speaker:and then resolve it with the kids. But that can
Speaker:be hard and scary. A depends on the level of explosiveness. Obviously,
Speaker:I'm not gonna let my husband or my copartner,
Speaker:my coparent, like, swear at my kids and call
Speaker:them names and stuff. Like, no. That's not gonna happen,
Speaker:or hurt them. Absolutely not. So intervention
Speaker:is really important if you sense that your children aren't being
Speaker:safe. But a little bit of, like, what's going on with you?
Speaker:Why are you acting this way? Come on, man. I've told you three times.
Speaker:Like, you can let that play out a little bit and just see
Speaker:if your co parent realizes, like, it's ineffective.
Speaker:It doesn't feel good. It doesn't solve any problems.
Speaker:Alright. So how do you intervene when you're actually intervening?
Speaker:So, I when when
Speaker:my co parent is in an explosive incident, you know,
Speaker:especially if they're being physical, then I want you to feel
Speaker:confident. Like, I feel confident. I say, listen. Everyone stay safe here.
Speaker:This is not working. Take a break.
Speaker:So I would turn to anybody who's doing that with my Childress. Whoever's
Speaker:in the house, a grandparent, a sibling, you know, a a
Speaker:babysitter. I don't know why I would have a babysitter that's that way. But anyone
Speaker:who is really, you know, hurting
Speaker:my child in the moment, I am going to say, your
Speaker:behavior is not working. Everyone stay safe here. Please go take a break.
Speaker:I want you to use that firm voice. It's a little bit like the hard
Speaker:no that we do with our kids. I I want you to feel that leadership,
Speaker:feel that a, and not be afraid or
Speaker:resentment or bring all your negative energy just like, no.
Speaker:That's enough. That's not okay. Please take a
Speaker:break. Now I a
Speaker:that in some relationships, some
Speaker:dynamics with some people, if you were to
Speaker:intervene like that, it might create a lot of
Speaker:extra chaos. It might escalate that person.
Speaker:So, of course, I want you to always keep your kids safe,
Speaker:and I want you to intervene on their behalf, but I also want
Speaker:you to be safe. So
Speaker:you might have to let sometimes things run their course.
Speaker:A, again, don't let your kids get hurt. Okay? Like, physically
Speaker:hurt. Don't let people hurt your kids. But and if they are
Speaker:hurting if your kids are getting hurt, then get help.
Speaker:But for the most part, a lot of times, this is just like a lot
Speaker:of words, you know, a lot of yelling and things like that. And
Speaker:if you were to intervene and that would just escalate it all and it just
Speaker:turns into, like, even more yelling, then you can just let it
Speaker:out. And when it's a
Speaker:little bit calm, you can turn to your child
Speaker:or the children and say, you know, daddy is very upset right
Speaker:now. So we're gonna let them have a break. You come with me. We're gonna
Speaker:go into this other room, and, you know, everyone
Speaker:stays safe here, so I'm gonna move you. So even if you have an older
Speaker:kid, 12, 13, 14, you can intervene in the same way. Say,
Speaker:listen. You know what? Your dad's a upset or your mom's real upset. They need
Speaker:a minute. Come with me or go to your room for a minute.
Speaker:Just get the people out of the circumstance.
Speaker:So if you can't stop the aggressor,
Speaker:right, the person who's really dysregulated, the co
Speaker:parent, and you can't kind of stop them, they're not gonna
Speaker:reset, you can move the children.
Speaker:So I really want you to think about this in terms of harm reduction.
Speaker:You're trying to create some distance between the child and the other adult so
Speaker:that there's not so much disconnection and harm for your child.
Speaker:So it's the same thing as the hard no. Right? I say if a kid
Speaker:is hurting somebody, hurting another kid, like, usually a
Speaker:sibling, like, everyone stay safe here. This behavior does not work. You can
Speaker:be mad. You can't hit. Right? And I say if you
Speaker:wanna hit, go over there or you can hang out with us once you stop
Speaker:hitting. Whatever. I set a boundary. And then the child keeps
Speaker:hitting or they keep screaming or they keep doing whatever they're doing. I would go,
Speaker:oh, okay. This isn't safe. So you turn to the other child and you
Speaker:say, you go to my room for a minute. So this is the
Speaker:same concept if you have one person who's highly dysregulated and
Speaker:you try to check them and they won't reset,
Speaker:then you just move the other children. Yeah?
Speaker:Okay. Now this part, this last part is
Speaker:really important. So we have prevention, a, now
Speaker:we have resolution. How do you resolve these
Speaker:kinds of things? How do we get our kids to,
Speaker:you know, feel, like they understand what
Speaker:happened to them? When you think about
Speaker:traumatic events, a lot of times, the reason why
Speaker:they've become traumatic events is because the person
Speaker:experiencing that bad thing personalizes it
Speaker:and they mull it over a they don't ever process it with somebody. They never
Speaker:get it out. So the resolution conversation, what we're
Speaker:doing is we're gonna narrate what happened and we're gonna give words
Speaker:to it Become the goal here is to separate the
Speaker:actions of the co parent from
Speaker:the child. We wanna help the child understand
Speaker:that these behaviors that my my
Speaker:parent did are about my parent, not
Speaker:about me being a bad kid. There's not I want your kids
Speaker:to go like, there's nothing wrong with me. That was a person who was a.
Speaker:Like, even having the word. So what we
Speaker:we don't want is for your child to internalize the messages
Speaker:that they might have received from their parent. We don't want we want
Speaker:them to know this has nothing to do with me. I might have acted
Speaker:poorly. I might have made a mistake, but their
Speaker:actions are because of their feelings.
Speaker:My parent acted that way. My parent yelled at me. My parent was mean to
Speaker:me. My parent did whatever they did because they had big
Speaker:feelings that they didn't know how to handle.
Speaker:So how do you do that? You go through and you
Speaker:first create facts for your child, then you name the emotion.
Speaker:So the facts are daddy said this or mommy
Speaker:said this or this thing a, and then he he said this
Speaker:a then he kicked this and he threw this and he said that.
Speaker:Like, whatever happened, I want you to describe it Become
Speaker:your child will make up a story about it, and they'll add facts
Speaker:to it as if the if they don't get anybody to process it with them.
Speaker:And, you know, they have a big imagination. So we wanna just kinda really
Speaker:name what happened, narrate narrate what happened,
Speaker:and then pick one feeling that they might have been feeling while
Speaker:it was happening. I wonder if you were feeling a little
Speaker:scared or I wonder if you're feeling confused. So
Speaker:you pick a emotion and that your child might be
Speaker:feeling a then you name that emotion and let them say
Speaker:what they're gonna say. Yes. He was really mean. I don't like when daddy
Speaker:does that. I don't like when mommy says that. I don't like how she talks
Speaker:to a. And you give them a place to dump some of that
Speaker:feeling and some of those thoughts so that they don't internalize
Speaker:it. So they'll try to make sense of it in their own head.
Speaker:Now not every kid is going to talk. Some
Speaker:of them might feel disloyal. They don't wanna talk badly about their co their
Speaker:parent. That makes sense. We don't need
Speaker:them to talk a lot in order for this to be
Speaker:effective. All we wanna do is
Speaker:put the behavior on the outside and talk about
Speaker:it as a thing, as a circumstance that the child experienced
Speaker:So it doesn't get mixed up into, like, I'm a bad kid
Speaker:and that's why my parent acted this way. It's
Speaker:like, no. Your parent acted this way because they had big feelings.
Speaker:They didn't know what to do with. Now your
Speaker:co parent may may not like this. Right? And it's like, well,
Speaker:this is what is true. You were dysregulated. No. I
Speaker:wasn't. They shouldn't be acting like that. They need to learn. No. No. No. You
Speaker:go, okay. Well, there's better ways to teach that.
Speaker:The truth is the way that you handled yourself doesn't work.
Speaker:You were dysregulated. So
Speaker:if you don't live with your co parent and your child
Speaker:goes back and forth or they spend time, you know, with their with their parent
Speaker:and you don't know about what's happening, I really want you to know your job
Speaker:is not to become a detective and unearth all the dirt. That's
Speaker:not what we're I want you to do. Try to figure out what happened and,
Speaker:like, I know you do this if you if you don't live with your,
Speaker:with your co parent. And instead, I
Speaker:want you just to be attuned, just paying attention, noticing your
Speaker:Childress, and talking about their behavior that they're currently
Speaker:doing. Like, they come home after being at their co parent at
Speaker:the other parent's house a they're really grumpy with you a they're, you know, they
Speaker:a about everything. And so you just wanna narrate a name and use the
Speaker:connection tool. So let them process some of that emotion that might
Speaker:be a. And without, you don't have ever have to really
Speaker:know what happened. So they may
Speaker:tell you eventually, especially if you're really neutral
Speaker:and curious about their feelings, not about the experience,
Speaker:just like a is it like to be you, little kid? What is it like
Speaker:to go back and forth? What is it? What part is hard? What part is
Speaker:confusing? You don't need to ask all these questions. You're just open
Speaker:to seeing what they reveal to you.
Speaker:Okay. Now the
Speaker:remember, the key takeaway here is that
Speaker:the parenting you're doing is not in vain
Speaker:because your co parent isn't on board. Your
Speaker:child's other parent isn't unraveling all of your hard work. What you are doing
Speaker:is not pointless. So you your
Speaker:child only needs a person to emotionally coach them in order to be
Speaker:emotionally literate, in order to grow up and be emotionally healthy.
Speaker:Isn't that amazing? You are the only person
Speaker:that your child needs in order to become the human that they are meant
Speaker:to be. Like, you are enough.
Speaker:What you're doing is enough. No matter
Speaker:how the other adults in your kids' life show up, you're
Speaker:enough. So really let that sink
Speaker:in. And next week, I'll talk about
Speaker:the when your co parent isn't on the same page in terms of limits
Speaker:and rules and things like that and following through.
Speaker:Alright. This week, I want you to give yourself a little pat on
Speaker:the back because you're doing a hard thing. You're parenting your kids in a way
Speaker:that hasn't happened before, and I'm really proud of you. And I want you to
Speaker:be proud of yourself and have that hard conversation with your co
Speaker:parent. It's not hard. Just have that conversation. Go over and
Speaker:say, hey. What's our approach here? Here's mine. Are
Speaker:you aligned with this? See what they say. Be curious.
Speaker:Alright, mamas. I will talk to you next week.