Good morning, Mel. Good morning, Beth. How are you today?

I'm good. Today, the day we record this, it's Earth

Day. Oh, is it? Happy birthday, everybody.

Happy earth day from last month. And so

I've been contemplating that. It's

funny because I'm traveling tomorrow, so I'm going to be up in the air, and

when I go travelling, I feel quite up in the air. I get in my

head and there's all the stuff to do and

pack and organize and all the things, and my

body definitely responds to being in the air.

It tries to ground me. So it's interesting that today I'm

contemplating the earth and her energy and her

support. I'm running an activation,

a grounding activation, in my soul space community today.

Yeah, I'm in that. I'm going to say I'm in that duality

of being up in the clouds and down in the earth and just trying to

find that equilibrium. Isn't that interesting? We

talk a lot about grounding, don't we? And being with nature

and reconnecting. But when we're in the air, we're

in this vessel, this man made vessel in the sky. We're

inside this little container and we're not touching the ground and we're not surrounded

by the water. So it is one of the only times where we're just

literally bobbing, bobbing around in the sky.

It's funny because in chinese medicine, when they work with the

elements, they've got, the metal plays a big part with

the. With the lungs, isn't it? Which is where the air comes

and goes. So when I've been working with my

Shaolin master, last time I went away, he was

talking to me about grounding while you're on an airplane.

Interesting. So just imagine you grounding and imagine the roots

and just feel that and see if you can. Or

feel if you can notice when you go from

being above earth to being above water while

you're ground. Yeah. And doing that,

doing all these, like, energetic exercises while you're in the air can

be really interesting. Yeah. Some qigong,

because it's your. Technically, the

metal could be amplifying

our energetics and helping us connect high.

We're not a million miles from earth when we're on a plane

compared to how far we are from the sun. Right. It's not that

significant. So I always find a little bit of time

when I'm on the airplane to figure what's going on out with my

energy and with that more, because my body physically

starts to want to ground itself. Yeah,

get like, swollen feet and it's literally my body going

ground, Melissa. We'll see what happens. We've also got all of the

other energies in the very contained space of people that we don't

know. We've got all the bags, we've got all the anticipation of where they're going,

all the journey. There's all kinds of stuff going on in that little space as

well. All the stress, all the stresses of

transportation, usually. Obviously, I'm traveling with my

children and this time I am not, so this is going to be a very

different for me. But, yeah, I think it's something

that I never used to consider and now I mega consider.

It's such a stressful place. Yeah. People were running

for their flights and people were scared on the plane and people

were thinking they're going to be late and everyone's out of their comfort zone.

Like pretty much, probably 95% more of

people there outside the comfort zone. And as energy sensitive

beings, we're picking up on all of that. So even if you are like, yeah,

I'm ready and I'm sorted, you start

to absorb some of that. Yeah. Do you have

any top tips for travellers? I mean,

I always talk about intention, generally about everything, and I think if you want to

have a stress free journey, then you can set that intention,

but you could also. It's also that time. It's

one of those times, like whether you're on a train or you're on a

plane, where you can actually use

that time. You don't have to be getting the laptop out and working or you

don't have to be answering the phone calls where you can actually

meditate or switch off or

visualize how you want the rest of the day to go. We don't get

those times very often where we can just stop. And I think

I used to do a lot of that on train journeys, for sure. I always

get very. It's weird, when I'm on the train,

I always get, like, super creative. I think it's because there's no

incoming. Yeah, maybe. And I, like,

write these amazing posts or so maybe I will get

my laptop out. But more for creation rather than

absorption. I think it's the mixture of being in a different environment

and. But also moving. Yeah, you're in a different space, but

also the vessel is also moving really quickly through different

sceneries and different people coming onto the train. And yeah, there's

something to be had, for sure. For sure. I think my top

tips when I travel is obviously the practical things

are important. Make sure that you've got your things organized

and check it before the night before. And I say this

because this is not me. Like, for me, I'm very much, yeah, I'll be fine.

And leave it to the last minute. I know where my passport is. Yes, I

do. My puzzle is out already. Just be as organized as you

can so that you can be in as

practically. You can be in as still a point as

usual as possible. We were speaking last time about

crystals and using them. I do

always wear very grounding crystals when I'm traveling,

and I have this plasma necklace, which, when I

wear it, I feel as if I've got this force field around me.

Now, annoyingly, last time I wore it and

threw the machines, so they had to,

which wasn't nice. So I remember to take that off this time as I go

through security. But, yeah, I do very intentionally use

my crystals. I also love to work

with the angelics when I'm traveling. And so

Archangel Metatron is said to be the angel that can

help you with time and travel and movement. So. So

I will call upon him and say, thank you for this smooth

journey. This is, like, your visualization, right? I'll say, thank you for the smooth

journey. Thank you for keeping me calm, and thank you for everything

happening on time as it is supposed to be. Thank you for

keeping us safe and for us actually having some laughs or some

this time, because not with my family. This time, it will be more.

Thank you for giving me some time to chill out, for getting some work

done, arriving there on time, and then I'll see myself

getting to the villa with everybody together

and cheersing our welcome cocktail,

whatever it is, that we have. Yeah. I like to call upon the

extra powers, and here's a new top tip

for you, especially Beth, which is now going to be another

tool in your bag. Whenever I get on the plane,

I sit there and I draw the Reiki distance symbol

on the. The roof of the roof of the plane.

Yeah. And I just imagine that kind of lit up all the

way. They've got, like, the leds that go, like, down. So I imagine that the

rokey distance symbol is, like, there, and then there's, like, an anchor point,

the power symbol that I imagine at the front of the plane, and then

also at the destination and then at the back of the plane, just,

like, seal that and ground that in, and then I'll just say a little prayer.

Thank you for keeping us all safe. Thank you for everybody on the plane staying

calm so I don't have to pick on their stuff and, yeah, thank you for

being a really enjoyable journey. And then off we go.

And everybody's beautifully well behaved on the plane.

None of the luggage goes missing and everything is as it

should. There was an episode, I don't know why this has just popped in my

head, totally random, but there was an episode of the Apprentice a couple of years

ago where they had to design an airline with the uniform and everything.

And I remember at the time thinking that I would call. I got really into

it, like as if I was the apprentice. I was going to call my airline

transcendence Airways,

because that was really calming. It would appeal to the older

clientele, though. No children would be allowed on transcendence airways.

It would just be for professionals. I

might have a children version of. That, but, yeah, we could have a children's

cabin. A children's cabin, right. You could have a children's

cabin. So, you know, like, you know, you have business class, first class.

No, children class. Right. Children class. Children class.

And in children class, they just have all the technology

just to keep them busy. Yeah. And they'll just be like, loving life because

they'll be like, this is the best thing ever. I can sit here for two,

3410 hours on my technology and no one's going to tell

me not to. Yeah, that's the battle. So this

is genius. Transcendence airways.

Airways, yes. And play meditation

music on board. Yeah. That was the whole thing. Like, you'd work. You would have

meditations going on and things. Therapy. Yeah.

To help. I'm loving this. Yeah. So tell us, listeners,

would you come and fly transcendent airways? Go to Adam

Sugar and we'll go. I don't understand why it's not being

done. It's one of the most stressful industries. Why has nobody gone?

This is the missing piece to the puzzle. This is. Yeah.

Beth, you are onto something. Yeah, I think I am. I'm going to write

anyway, while I'm on the phone. And the uniform was going to be

like, harem trousers and white robes.

Yeah. So it was. I can't remember. I think it was blue. But then also

the hat was like, almost like a cloud. I really. I'd really got into it.

I really thought about it and I was very disappointed nobody had come up with

my idea. I'm loving that. I'm

loving that. If I ever see you on the apprentice, Beth, I will

keep my. All my fingers crossed that task comes up and

that you are the project manager for that. Yeah, that's mine. That would be

me. Yeah. They are taking applications at the

moment. Oh, no, past that. I've done my project

management.

Yeah. I think that when I. Ten years ago, no,

more than that. 20 years ago. Whenever. I don't know. How long has the apprentice

been there? It must be,

I don't know, maybe 15 years. To think. I worked in business support, so when

I was managing business support programs, it was on. And that was 2014, and it

was happening well before that. So, yeah, I was like, I could

go on the apprentice. I could do that. And then people would say to me,

like, mel, you should go on the apprentice. Yeah, I used to get that, too.

Yeah. My team used to say that. If you think about it,

what do you think about the people on the apprentice? Not so much now, but

then they'd get the kind of, should we call them

personalities, and they'd make

some questionable judgments. And then I'm thinking, is

that how you see me? I

think it was probably for the opposite reason. I think.

Yeah, we started in the clouds. How I feel

now. I've got my cards out. Me too.

So I've got. Oh, they look nice. I've picked Doctor

Stephen D Farmer's made messages from the spirits

of nature oracle. And I

know, look at this box, because I

was like, these are the most beautiful pictures of nature.

Their photography mainly, I think,

all. And they have animals and different scenes,

and I just. I don't have any other decks that are quite like

this. And as it's earth day, thought, what

a beautiful. Why not? Why not? So let's pick

a card for the listeners whenever you're listening to this. We're

picking earth days. This is a message from the earth

for our listeners whenever or wherever

you are in the world. What do they need to know?

Oh, look at this. So we have got this.

Beautiful. Is that a monarch butterfly? Is

it? Monarch butterfly is more black. It's a beautiful orange and

yellow butterfly with

its wings really out, really prominent in the picture,

sitting on a very lush green leaf with some yellow

flowers in the background. Nice. And it

says regeneration. It's card number three,

regeneration. So by the time everyone's listening to

this, assuming you're listening to this when it's just coming

out, we're just going to be coming. We're really going to be in the spring,

aren't we? Yeah, probably end of mere time, I. Reckon

maybe it's wherever you are. This is really a message

to invite you to be seen and to

be prized for the uniqueness that you are, because

you look at a butterfly. And they do have these

beautiful markings, and they look so elegant, and

they always bring joy, don't they? Unfortunately, if you think about the insect

kingdom, they don't always bring joy to the humans, do they?

There's always something. Whereas a butterfly, there's something.

Butterflies and ladybirds, right? There's something about them that just

brings such joy and this,

like, mesmerization, don't they? And I think for

butterflies, we can often see them or know them to be these

messages from the divine or messages from spirit. And actually,

I asked what Mother Earth wanted to say. And they're bringing through

this beautiful message of the butterfly,

which, for the butterfly to get to where she is now with these

beautiful wings and this ability to fly, she's had to go through it

all. And she spent all of her

life as a caterpillar just munching on the leaf that she now so gracefully

sits on and then had to go into the unknown

and just follow. She just followed her instincts right

to myself, around me, this cocoon.

I don't know what's going to happen. And she had to fully surrender.

And this message feels to me more like, you've been through

that. Just because that was your past, it doesn't mean

that equals your future. Sometimes when we feel that and

we've been through this real metamorphosis, we can

feel like that's what we need to expect.

But this message feels like that's been done. And now

it's who I am. Look who I've become. Look

how I can bring joy into other people's worlds just by

flying around and showing my colors. And

this really feels to me like a stand

proud. If you could see this butterfly, it really

looks, like, stable on its feet. It's flying in this

picture. It's grounded in the picture. I think it's interesting as well. We're talking

about flight, and you're going flying today as well. We've got the butterfly

symbol. It's almost butterfly like as you're

traveling through the skies. That ease and grace of

just trusting that I'm heading in the right direction,

I will land when it's time to land, that everything that's

come before is now all worth it. I did say

these orange and yellow. And the airline I'm flying

there with is an orange airline, so that.

And I'm wearing orange, though. And you're wearing orange as well. Yeah. I might wear

it tomorrow. They'll think that I'm part of the crew. I might get upgraded. I

don't know. Swear orange. Be

one of them. So that's the message from card number

three, butterfly regeneration. Fly like the butterfly,

but stay grounded and proud of who you

are, and don't be afraid to show off your uniqueness.

I love that. I'm going to pull a card. It's from

the oracle of the unicorns Oracle card deck.

I do have some butterfly cards, but they're downstairs, so I can't

reach for those today. But the card that we've

got is dance. Dance. Move your body to music.

Dance with the rhythm of life. Manifest your dreams

through dance. And I think

we're talking a lot about transportation, we're talking a lot about movement,

we're talking a lot about moving from one place

to another. And what nicer, rhythmic

way, almost like the butterfly, where a butterfly doesn't go

forward like a train or a plane, it flutters, it lands, it moves,

it sways, and I think, what a beautiful way to move from

one place to another, whether it's dance or some other way.

It takes up space, doesn't it? Yeah. And when you dance, you take up

space, unless you're doing the shuffle, which. Is fine, the

conga or whatever you're doing.

Take up space, be seen. Dance like no one's

watching. Dance with the rhythm of life. I really like

that because there's something to be said about movement, the

shifting of energies, the creativity and

flow in that, like you say, the creating of space,

but the enjoyment that comes with dance, that letting go,

listening to your body and how it wants to move, or just

intuitively moving to music, or even if there's no

music, or it's very freeing, it's very

liberating, and it takes us out of this stagnant

energy of must do it this way. I think of those, like,

travelators when you're at the airport, when you're like, and then me and Mel are

just at the side, just running down. We don't need to go on the travelators,

we can just do a little. On the

travelators sitting on our paces. Yeah, like putting ourselves along.

So maybe if the listeners maybe are on a path right now and you think

there's maybe like a specific route that you need to take. Who says

that there is? Break the mould a little bit. Think about if you want to

do things slightly differently, then do things slightly differently. If you want to go on

a detour, then go on a detour. If you want to

change the music, if you want to change the clothes, if you want to change

how you're showing up, like the butterfly, then you can do that. Who's

to say you can't be who you want to be? It's the

same message, right? Be who you are.

You're safe to shine. Become the version of you

that you have become. This is not about who you were. This

is about who you are and how you express it.

Sounds to me like both the earth and the

unicorns. So back into earth and air, right? Yeah.

Are encouraging us to really

blossom and be seen. So I love that.

Will you be doing the conga when you get to your destination?

1000%. Even if I'm on my own, a week

away from my family, it's the first time it's

been. I've been away from them for a week in another country

as well. I think there's. Maybe this message is for me as

well. I think especially as a parent, as

a business owner, as a spiritual teacher, we have these

identities and these responsibilities that we have to put on and that we have

to keep on. And sometimes it takes us going into a different

environment, sometimes it takes us growing our wings and going, oh, my

God, what do I do with these? For us to understand what our new dance

is and how we now in the world. And

obviously, like, a huge part of my life is that I'm a

mum to three gorgeous boys and I'm a

wife and a homeowner and all of this stuff. But actually, I'm so much more

than that. And I think that this time away from me, whether I'm

doing the conga or lying in starfish

pose on the ground in the sun, I don't know.

It's like an exploration, isn't it? What do I. How do I

want to be? And I think that's my intention for this week,

is this curiosity of who am

I when I'm in such a different

environment with less

responsibilities. Yeah. And I love those times when we're away,

because it's a different environment and we get to daydream more

about, actually, I would like more of this and less of that.

And how do I want my life to be? Who do I want to become?

What is that best version of me? How can I

fulfill my life and make it better? Not just for me,

but for other people in my family and everybody around me as well. They're very

special, these moments in time when we get to do that. Of course,

we can do that all of the time. But there is something to be said

about taking ourselves out of the everyday, the

mundane, finding the school shoes on

a morning and packing the bags and all of that. It's good to have the

break. So wondering what Mel, the version of Mel

that comes back will be. Who knows? Maybe

I'll turn into the orange and yellow butterfly. Who

knows? And I'm leaving that up to what

arises. We're always growing and evolving, and

the timing for this is super interesting for me because I've just

finished my modules for my psychotherapy

training, so that it's just finished. And that's been a

massive journey for me on a therapeutic session, and stuff has

come up that I'm like, I didn't even know that was a thing.

Yeah. And I. And last week in the training, I had this massive shift,

and now here I am in this new space

in a different environment away, and I'm going to be working

on my. It's a business retreat, but I'm going to be working

more on self as a business owner, rather

than what I'm doing with my business. And I think that's really important.

I've been thinking a lot more about

creating new products and services, and one of the things

that's coming to mind, and this is like, really beginnings of that right

now, is this creation of identities,

that of who we really want to become. Because I think

we all have an idea of how we want our life to

be, but do we really fully

know what it feels like? And who do

we want to draw from? Who do we really admire, and what

dropping into their identities, and how do they hold themselves and command the space?

That kind of thing. So I'm really interested, and we talked previously

about different timelines, and what if we

have this doppelganger, Beth and Melissa, and whoever

you are, as a lister, who has got that entity with

all of these amazing qualities, and I'm really interested in

helping people to recognize what that is,

not just on a surface level, but underneath, what are those real feelings and

connections, and why is that important to us?

And how do we go about cultivating and becoming that

person and quantum leaping into that

timeline? I love that you are doing that work as well.

I'm loving the synchronicity.

Seriously. I was talking last week about

identity work, literally, on the way home from school

one this morning, I was thinking a lot about identity work

and what that all means for me. And I was

listening to something and conversations with God

series. Yes. Yeah, I've read those a few years. And

Neil. Dunno, she's God. He channels these conversations with

God. They're brilliant texts, I think. And

he talks about how our purpose is to become the

greatest version of ourselves. And

that, for me, is the identity work. Yes. What does that even

mean? And if that is our purpose, then that

means that somewhere there is this greatest

version of ourselves that's already existing.

Because we put that before we were born, we must have put

that as our script, as our vision.

This is the greatest version of me. This is what that means. And

all the while where we're busy and we're doing and we're fumbling through life,

that can feel quite elusive, but it's there

and it's pulling us and it's calling us, and all we need to do is

align to that. And for me, that a

lot of that came when I intended

to put my soul first. It was like sticking with that

intention, whatever that means, and not understanding what that meant.

And then having these flits of, oh, and then the human

comes back. So it's super interesting

work and something that I'm delving into

at the moment, so. Well, interesting. Yeah. That I'm also

delving into. It's like last night we messaged each

other and it was the weirdest thing, wasn't it? Yeah. Yeah,

it really was. We're definitely in sync now. Our conversations

are obviously staring at something. The listeners, we would love to know

if our conversations are stirring up anything for

you and what those stirrings may be. Just

hit message us on the show notes and we will

love to hear your thoughts. And if you would be interested in

transcendence, airlines do also get in touch because Mel is seriously

going to be putting the business plan together. One on the plane.

I know someone who knows Alan Sugar, so, I mean. Oh, right. Okay, there you

go. It's a done deal.