1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,940 Host: Today we welcome Amber Sha Friedman, a sales leader and a trailblazer for women in the RV industry. 2 00:00:06,030 --> 00:00:07,140 Welcome to the show. 3 00:00:07,590 --> 00:00:08,490 Amber Shae Friedman: Thank you for having me. 4 00:00:09,090 --> 00:00:12,630 Host: Tell us about yourself and your background and how you got to where you are 5 00:00:12,630 --> 00:00:13,020 Amber Shae Friedman: today. 6 00:00:13,695 --> 00:00:21,735 Well, I would say my sales journey began in 2012 with becoming a sales guide with Land Rover. 7 00:00:22,035 --> 00:00:25,395 I met someone and they said, would you like to sell cars? 8 00:00:25,395 --> 00:00:30,225 And I said, why would I wanna sell cars ? And they said, well, you know, you would be really good at it. 9 00:00:30,225 --> 00:00:34,850 So the job that I was at, Was not a, the best paying job, and I was like, sure, why not? 10 00:00:34,850 --> 00:00:35,900 I don't have kids right now. 11 00:00:35,900 --> 00:00:41,089 I was 24 at the time, so I just went ahead and took the leap and went into sales. 12 00:00:41,089 --> 00:00:47,300 That's, that's pretty much where I learned how to be a salesperson, how to interact with people. 13 00:00:47,450 --> 00:00:48,260 So that was great. 14 00:00:48,260 --> 00:00:49,910 I did that for three and a half years. 15 00:00:50,180 --> 00:00:57,709 So from there I was introduced to Arby sales, which even though it's built sales, they are much different in the way. 16 00:00:58,404 --> 00:01:01,794 , you interact with customers and the culture is a lot different as well. 17 00:01:02,065 --> 00:01:08,274 RVs are used to travel and for families to spend time together and they call it the RV lifestyle. 18 00:01:08,274 --> 00:01:20,155 And so, and I really loved it because it was a lot of helping people achieve, you know, this dream of spending time with their kids or their families or traveling in a less expensive way. 19 00:01:20,945 --> 00:01:25,025 and, you know, create memories that they would share with, you know, generations. 20 00:01:25,025 --> 00:01:26,345 And so it was really great. 21 00:01:27,005 --> 00:01:33,305 Host: We know you've taken part in coaching through the Southwestern Coaching team, which you say has had a huge impact on your business. 22 00:01:33,395 --> 00:01:35,915 What did you take away from that coaching process? 23 00:01:36,365 --> 00:01:37,325 Amber Shae Friedman: Well, that's a great question. 24 00:01:37,330 --> 00:01:43,505 So I did really well in RV sales until March, 2019 is when I. 25 00:01:44,355 --> 00:01:56,085 The worst month in, in my sales career, um, literally sold zero RVs and there was a lot of factors in play, you know, but to me they're all excuses, you know? 26 00:01:56,090 --> 00:01:58,905 I just knew that something needed to change, right? 27 00:01:58,965 --> 00:02:01,755 So my boyfriend had been using. 28 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:09,920 A coach for years, and he said it's just completely changed his career that he didn't think he would be the level that he is without it. 29 00:02:09,920 --> 00:02:13,310 And so he, he was like, you really need to talk to my guy. 30 00:02:13,310 --> 00:02:14,930 Just hear, hear them out. 31 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:16,550 At that point I was like, I'll try. 32 00:02:16,550 --> 00:02:18,260 And he like, let me just, yeah, I'll talk to him. 33 00:02:18,410 --> 00:02:19,100 And he's great. 34 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,700 And so he'd explained the process, explain what they do. 35 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,940 And the one thing that I really remember was when he told me the. 36 00:02:26,470 --> 00:02:30,489 The first thing I thought was, well, I just made $0 last month. 37 00:02:30,489 --> 00:02:33,640 Is this really something I need to be like, you know, spending money on? 38 00:02:33,910 --> 00:02:39,430 Um, and he said, well, let me ask you this, like, how many extra RVs do you think you would need to sell? 39 00:02:40,290 --> 00:02:42,750 In order to make that a month. 40 00:02:43,050 --> 00:02:47,220 And I said, well, depending on the rv, I mean one, one and a half. 41 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:57,300 And he goes, okay, well, and he said, here are the statistics for people that do coaching with us and here's how much their, they improve and how much their production grows. 42 00:02:57,390 --> 00:03:04,280 So having said that, Don't you think it's pretty feasible to say that this would pay for itself, essentially? 43 00:03:04,340 --> 00:03:11,930 And I was like, well, I cannot argue with Math . So basically, you know, I did the quiz personality thing where they match you up with a coach. 44 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,890 I thought that was just great because there's a lot of, I actually had interviewed. 45 00:03:16,365 --> 00:03:21,675 Two or three other coaches that I knew to make sure that, you know, I was making the right decision. 46 00:03:21,675 --> 00:03:31,455 And of course, I think within a minute of our first conversation I was like, this is my person . Like, we just instantly clicked and it was, it was like talking to a sister. 47 00:03:31,575 --> 00:03:52,335 So, She really sold me on the program because the other people I had interviewed, I mean, they were good and I'm sure they would've helped me in some way, but there's no doubt in my mind that you guys were the best choice and, and I now tell everybody it was the best financial decision I've ever made because, I mean, my sales speak for themselves after I started working with her. 48 00:03:52,815 --> 00:03:59,085 What's great about coaching is that, and what really helped me personally was at the rv. 49 00:03:59,910 --> 00:04:03,780 You know, at Land Rover they offered us a lot of training, sales training. 50 00:04:03,810 --> 00:04:15,210 Um, they offered us just a lot of resources, a great CRM system, RV industry, everybody pretty much knows that it's a couple years behind technology wise, then auto industry and that sort of thing. 51 00:04:15,215 --> 00:04:21,300 And so there just wasn't a lot of resources, um, or training or, or any of that stuff. 52 00:04:21,300 --> 00:04:22,130 And I, and I'm a. 53 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,520 A learner and I like to know what I'm doing and why I'm doing it. 54 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:31,910 And, you know, the processes and the procedures that coaching gave me is what I really needed. 55 00:04:31,910 --> 00:04:42,140 I needed someone to teach me how to manage my time properly and, and use a calendar, um, you know, and just have someone to hold me accountable for my actions and. 56 00:04:42,585 --> 00:04:47,715 Making sure I was doing what I would needed to do and, and I'm the kind of person where if you just tell me what to do, I'll do it. 57 00:04:47,835 --> 00:04:55,005 But if I don't know what to do, you know, especially after having a zero month thing when your mindset is kind of messed up at that point. 58 00:04:55,005 --> 00:05:07,275 And so, so the processes and procedures and all of the resources was, I think what the coaching part gave me that was the most useful, the confidence that I needed to know that I could. 59 00:05:08,280 --> 00:05:21,840 What I knew I was capable of, I learned to not tell clients or customers what to do or what to think, but rather just ask them questions in a way that helps them come to the conclusion that, that it's best for them. 60 00:05:22,484 --> 00:05:31,335 When I started in sales, um, at Land River, I was the only female that they told me pretty much as a female, you will either fail instantly or beat everybody. 61 00:05:31,515 --> 00:05:33,405 That's just how the carpentry, I guess, sees it. 62 00:05:33,405 --> 00:05:38,895 So they said, so good luck, . Um, but uh, we're not really counting on you lasting very long. 63 00:05:39,044 --> 00:05:42,164 And so of course to me that means, well, I only have one option. 64 00:05:42,164 --> 00:05:43,304 I have to beat everybody. 65 00:05:43,304 --> 00:05:46,005 So that's, that's what I did, you know, and then at the. 66 00:05:46,905 --> 00:05:48,675 Dealership, I was also the only female. 67 00:05:48,675 --> 00:06:09,765 So that is a challenge in its own, um, especially in industries where it's male dominated and there are a lot of preconceived notions on, on females and, you know, even customers not realizing it will assume that I don't know as much about cars or about RVs just because I'm a female. 68 00:06:09,765 --> 00:06:13,594 And, and so I would say that was always a challenge for me and. 69 00:06:14,190 --> 00:06:22,380 What was interesting about being the only female in sales is that you are told, um, or just in sales in general in a lot of the transactional sales worlds. 70 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,780 Um, you're told what to do, here's how you do it. 71 00:06:25,020 --> 00:06:26,700 Follow these rules and good luck. 72 00:06:26,849 --> 00:06:36,450 You know, and so I definitely have an employee mindset that I was limited, you know, as far as how I could reach out to people or what kind of marketing I was able to do. 73 00:06:36,450 --> 00:06:39,240 We had a marketing team that marketed for the dealerships and. 74 00:06:40,109 --> 00:06:46,349 I was counting on that, you know, I was kind of counting on people walking in to the dealership looking for, um, you know, an rv. 75 00:06:46,349 --> 00:06:53,130 And so that limits you, um, especially when you're having a bad month kind of thing. 76 00:06:53,135 --> 00:07:07,140 And so, uh, learning really to, like I said, the confidence thing and learning that even if you aren't technically the business owner, you can still have a business owner mindset. 77 00:07:08,805 --> 00:07:17,955 What that allowed me to do was realize that I actually bring a very unique perspective to the RV industry as a female. 78 00:07:18,015 --> 00:07:25,755 You know, it's not something that's hindering me, it's something that's unique about me that I believe our veers will appreciate. 79 00:07:25,844 --> 00:07:27,885 Cuz they don't really hear that. 80 00:07:28,034 --> 00:07:36,974 They don't hear a voice, you know, from my perspective, explaining things the way that you know, females or families or anything would like to hear and. 81 00:07:38,085 --> 00:07:39,395 What it really allowed me to do. 82 00:07:39,975 --> 00:07:41,175 Um, branch out. 83 00:07:41,175 --> 00:07:50,175 So the first thing I started doing is, okay, I could think like a business owner, even though I'm a W2 employee, so let's, you know, figure out how I can do that. 84 00:07:50,180 --> 00:07:59,565 And so I started reaching out to other people in the industry that I felt had the same values as me as far as customer service and just helping people. 85 00:07:59,565 --> 00:08:01,655 I ended up getting in touch with the rv. 86 00:08:01,919 --> 00:08:09,390 Women's Alliance and so they, they asked me to be on their board and so I helped with a lot of different things and that was great seeing it. 87 00:08:09,390 --> 00:08:13,440 And then when I started helping and working with them, they had just started. 88 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:14,130 Now they're. 89 00:08:14,490 --> 00:08:19,020 They're soaring and they have, you know, a website and a YouTube channel and everything. 90 00:08:19,090 --> 00:08:23,040 And, and they've really given women in the RV industry a voice. 91 00:08:23,340 --> 00:08:25,530 But also it's not just for women, right? 92 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,480 Men can be members as well. 93 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,610 And, and we need men in there to help us. 94 00:08:29,615 --> 00:08:32,130 And so it's, otherwise it's not a quality, right? 95 00:08:32,135 --> 00:08:42,440 So, It was all about education and helping spread the word that hey, women, women do sell RVs, you know, and they, they also are technicians, they also are at the factories making RVs. 96 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,540 So it's, it's not just men, you know? 97 00:08:44,540 --> 00:08:47,840 And, um, and it can be fulfilling for women as well, so. 98 00:08:48,210 --> 00:08:49,410 So that was really great. 99 00:08:49,410 --> 00:08:52,470 And I also hop, mine is, is writing. 100 00:08:52,590 --> 00:09:14,400 I've always loved just writing articles and stuff, so I contacted a company called Golic who helps customers who are affiliated with say like their veterans or affiliated with, you know, state Farm or just different organizations, helps them link up with dealerships to get specific type of discount. 101 00:09:14,925 --> 00:09:19,335 And so I reached out to them and they have a consumer facing website. 102 00:09:19,815 --> 00:09:27,345 And, um, they had sent me a couple articles and, and I sent them a couple of edits just cause I'm like that person that sees typos and stuff. 103 00:09:27,345 --> 00:09:30,765 And, and then they contacted me and said, Hey, you know, we don't have. 104 00:09:31,215 --> 00:09:35,475 An RV expert here, they said, would you mind writing some articles for us? 105 00:09:35,685 --> 00:09:37,245 And I was like, actually, I would love to do that. 106 00:09:37,275 --> 00:09:45,195 That's just something that I've, I had actually asked my own company if I can do that for them, cuz they had a blog and they said, nobody pays someone to do that . So I said, okay. 107 00:09:45,435 --> 00:09:49,745 So I just started writing for this company and they started publishing articles that I would write. 108 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:55,730 Far as, you know, the top five fifth wheels or the top 10 travel trailers or the different things to do. 109 00:09:56,150 --> 00:10:10,880 And it just, just to help educate people because I feel like with anything, when you're new to something like rv, there's so many resources out there and information online that it can be very overwhelming and I honestly could never really find. 110 00:10:11,355 --> 00:10:18,735 Just an easy to read how to know the difference, like how to know the difference between the different types of RVs, cuz there's different types. 111 00:10:18,735 --> 00:10:20,145 You drive some, you pull some. 112 00:10:20,145 --> 00:10:28,875 And so just, um, being able to create that and give that to my customers as a resource was really awesome. 113 00:10:28,875 --> 00:10:31,695 And so there was just a great opportunity to get my voice out there. 114 00:10:32,339 --> 00:10:35,459 At the end of the day, what it helped me do is create my own brand. 115 00:10:35,670 --> 00:10:45,420 That having a business owner mindset means, you know, yes, I work for a company, and yes, I'm representing that company, but at the end of the day, I want people to remember me. 116 00:10:45,420 --> 00:10:48,180 I want people to think, oh, I bought an RV from Amber. 117 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:49,500 You should go see her. 118 00:10:49,560 --> 00:10:51,270 You know, and so it's all about. 119 00:10:52,260 --> 00:10:55,260 Creating that presence in the RV community. 120 00:10:55,500 --> 00:11:00,480 It just grew into this, this really great, unique, you know, that no one else out there is like me. 121 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,520 And so it's been really awesome. 122 00:11:03,030 --> 00:11:03,150 A 123 00:11:03,460 --> 00:11:06,930 Host: lot of people can probably relate to your story and your circumstances. 124 00:11:07,050 --> 00:11:11,070 What advice would you give to listeners who are struggling right now to meet their goals? 125 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:17,520 Amber Shae Friedman: The biggest piece of advice that I could give that I think that's helped me the most is that. 126 00:11:18,015 --> 00:11:20,565 You can do anything you set your mind to. 127 00:11:21,015 --> 00:11:24,795 Never let someone tell you what you can or can't do. 128 00:11:25,245 --> 00:11:30,675 And it's one of those things where they say, if you don't believe in yourself, how can anybody else really believe in you? 129 00:11:30,675 --> 00:11:33,885 And so I think it's really important to. 130 00:11:34,680 --> 00:11:37,020 To know why you're doing what you're doing. 131 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:41,810 And for me, realizing that helping people is the reason why I was selling RVs. 132 00:11:41,810 --> 00:11:45,330 It wasn't the money, it wasn't anything other than I just wanted to help people. 133 00:11:45,330 --> 00:11:48,690 And so my advice would be to find your why. 134 00:11:48,690 --> 00:11:51,060 Find what gets you out of bed every day. 135 00:11:51,270 --> 00:11:57,480 And if you're getting out of bed to a job that isn't super exciting to you, you're still getting outta bed for it. 136 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:01,260 So there's gotta be something that's pulling you towards that. 137 00:12:01,265 --> 00:12:02,890 So identifying. 138 00:12:03,495 --> 00:12:08,175 And then realizing that you can do basically whatever you set your mind to. 139 00:12:08,175 --> 00:12:13,845 Cause I feel that if you set your mind to something and you truly believe in it, it will happen good or bad. 140 00:12:14,175 --> 00:12:21,765 So it's really about, you know, focusing on, on your mindset and knowing that you have full control over certain things. 141 00:12:21,765 --> 00:12:24,615 And it's really your schedule and your mindset. 142 00:12:24,735 --> 00:12:27,930 And so, You have full control over that, good or bad. 143 00:12:27,930 --> 00:12:35,910 So just be very aware of what you're thinking, what you're putting out there, because, um, good or bad, it will come back to you. 144 00:12:36,209 --> 00:12:40,949 Just like that quote that says, whether you think you can or you can't, you're right.