Welcome to the Construction Disruption

podcast, where we uncover the future of

design, building and remodeling. I'm Todd

Miller of Isaiah Industries, manufacturer,

specialty residential metal roofing and

other building materials. And today, my co

host is Ethan Young. Ethan, we are back

from hiatus. We haven't recorded one of

these in a while. Yes, we are. But. So

we're gonna. I feel a little rusty. I

don't know about you, it's been. I mean,

what, six months or so? So maybe longer.

We had quite a few in the can when we went

on hiatus and worked through those. But

I'm excited to be back. So one thing I

will remind everybody, we are going to be

back once again here in season two, doing

our challenge words. And with our

challenge words, each one of us on the

show has been given some secret word that

we are challenged to work into the

conversation. And we were given that by

one of our illustrious co people here on

the show. So you, the listeners, might be

listening, try to figure out what those

weird words are that we might say, and

then at the end, we will announce what

those words were and whether we were

successful or not. So today we're going to

kind of continue the show and kick off

here, season two, by taking a deep look,

actually, at new construction as well as

trends and current issues and some

exciting things for the future happening

in new construction. And to help us along

the way today, we're very excited about

today's episode as our guest is Kyle

Bobbitt of Kyle Bobbitt, LLC, based in

Wake Forest, North Carolina. An unlimited

licensed general contractor with a focus

on creativity and problem solving, Kyle's

company builds custom homes as well as

other buildings in North Carolina,

Florida, and Tennessee. Their projects

typically range from 1 million to $50

million in size. So they are not doing

small stuff. And as you look at the homes

they have built, you really see a bent

toward contemporary design with a european

flair is the best way I know to describe

it. So, Kyle, welcome to Construction

disruption. It's a pleasure to have you as

our guest. Thank you so much, Todd.

Appreciate it. Good morning, Ethan. Well,

I just kind of gave the audience a teaser

on your background, but why don't you go

ahead and tell us a little bit about

yourself, how you came to be a part of

this great industry. And, you know what,

what's your company up to today? What sort

of projects you got going again? Kyle

Bobbitt, unlimited general contractor.

Been in construction for two decades now.

Father was a builder, grandfather was a

builder. I was on job sites my entire

life. Since I was five years old, right.

They were dragging me around and just

having a good time. I think I had the

first nail in my foot when I was about

seven or eight. And of course, I think mom

put a stop to the job site visits probably

at least about a week until I could

convince her I was good. As far as what we

have going on today, we actively do maybe

40 to 50 houses at a time. At a time. Holy

cow. At a time. Yeah. So it's, it's always

a lot going on. I also do some commercial

stuff, some upfits, things like that. So

it's, it's always a lot going on. And, you

know, this area, this market has always

been hot. Even when the housing market

crashed in 2008, 910 1112, it was still

just booming in the Raleigh Durham wake

forest area. So we, we've always had just

tons of work and a lot of good people out

here and we just build as much as we can

to the best of our ability. That's really

interesting. And so I'm just kind of

curious. I mean, you're saying that it's

still booming down in your area. I mean,

is any slowness at all or anything on the

rise? And are you projecting continue to

remain strong on new construction or

what's happening? Yeah, I think we're

continuing to go strong in this area in

particular. Statistically speaking. I

think I read 73 families are moving into

this area every month. Excuse me, every

week. Wow. From Ida State, the top biggest

states are, you know, New York, New

Jersey, Connecticut, Pennsylvania,

Massachusetts. A lot of the people are

leaving the city and trying to find a more

rural life. And something that raleigh

offers in particular is it's a city

center, but it has a lot of little small

rural towns all around. It kind of like in

a bubble. So people find that very

attractive and they move here. And, you

know, in north Carolina in particular, if

you're in the center of the state in 2

hours you're on the coast, or 2 hours to

the west, you're in the mountains. So

it's, it's kind of a, kind of an awesome

scenario for people who are looking to

relocate. We also see a lot of people from

florida making their way back up to north

Carolina, so. Well, it sure is a beautiful

area. No doubt about it. You know, part of

my wife and I's dream retirement may

involve the coastal carolinas. You never

know. So, um, so I see that you like to

travel and you like outdoor activities.

Um, maybe kind of a strange question, but,

um, how have those things influenced your

career as a builder, I think. Traveling

opens your mind. Right? And, uh, I've

been. I've been everywhere, man. I. You

know, Switzerland is probably one of my

favorite places on the planet. Seeing the

way they build houses is amazing. I've

also spent time in Japan, so it's taken

little pieces of everything. And if you

take the quality and craftsmanships from

somewhere like Japan, and you see the way

they do heavy timber framing, do you turn

around and you look at Switzerland and

what they do, especially for snow loads,

and then you go through Europe and you see

that kind of contemporary design or modern

design all through Germany and Berlin, you

see a lot of modern designs out that way.

So as I've kind of traveled around the

world, I've just seen all kinds of

different ways of building. And it really

opened my mind to more than just that

traditional stick frame. Well, I think

that's really interesting. So often when

you look at other countries and how they

build, you see that they've been building

for resilience and permanence for

centuries, and that just seems like

something that our country now is suddenly

trying to figure out how to do. So I think

that perspective you've gained, especially

from Asia and Europe. Japan, you

mentioned. I know when I was in Japan a

few years ago, too, I was just amazed by

just the level of skill that they put into

construction and what that looks like. I

mean, guys are installing our roofs

wearing white gloves. That doesn't

normally happen here in the states. No, it

doesn't. I did have a question. So is your

company doing more design build work, or

do they, you guys build more to spec from

other designers? I'd say it's probably

about 90 ten. We do have in house

architects and structural engineers. I

certainly prefer to do design build work

over spec works from other designers,

mostly because my guys, number one, they

know how I build and how I like it. And,

you know, everybody has their own quirks,

I guess, as a builder, you know, or

whatever your pet peeves are, so they just

happen to know mine. And the biggest

thing, the biggest advantage, I think, is

the ability to control the design also

helps control the price point. Right.

Because what you put into the structure

can, can greatly affect, you know, what

that. What that overall price point looks

like, just depending on how it's designed.

Yeah, makes sense. Definitely more of a

unified effort. You know, both you guys

kind of fighting on the same team, I

guess, just put it in a different way. But

at least. Yeah, that leads perfect into

the next question I had, which was, can

you tell us a little bit more about, like,

the makeup of your company. You mentioned

stuff about architects and stuff, but what

else? Who else is part of your team? Yeah,

sure. So all in all, we're construction

management firm first and foremost. It's

myself, my wife. She's the vice president,

co owner. She kind of oversees the books,

the accounting side of things. I usually

focus more on the project management side

of things and kind of moving the future of

the company in the right direction.

Gotcha. We have in house architects, in

house engineers. We have our own project

management team, a construction manager

which kind of heads that group, and then,

of course, site superintendents. And we

have some in house crews that do some

work, and then we sub out most of the

work, just depending on what those

specifics are. So what's it been like to

work with subcrews recently? I mean, how

do you kind of get around? I know one of

the big things we talk about is this

skilled labor shortage and all that.

What's that been like for you? Like

everybody, it's been rough. I think I'm a

little bit more blessed than most. A lot

of these boys have been working with me

for two decades. Some of the subs that I

use, my dad used, some of the companies

are even farther along than that. So in

some of that aspect, I've been fortunate

to have worked with the same group of

guys. But as they retire out and the

younger guys come in, it's getting harder

and harder, for sure, because they're not

really trained properly. Right. Like, I

was on a job site my entire life, so I

kind of knew what to expect. But for the

younger guys that are coming into it, you

know, and especially we see a lot of

immigrants that are in the construction

field now, and they're maybe used to a

different type of construction, more of

like the masonry or block or seamen and

things like that. Whereas the stick built

houses, which are more traditional here,

they struggle with that aspect of it. And

the skilled, I would say the skilled labor

is getting harder and harder to find every

day. I think I read statistically, for

every eight people that retire in this

industry, only one comes in. And that's

alarming because it used to be your

material and labor were kind of tit for

tat in terms of what something cost. And

what we're going to see moving forward

with that as the labor market gets tighter

is when you have ten plumbers and eight

retired and there's only two left, they're

going to demand more money for their time,

and that's just going to raise the price

of square foot for every house, and the

labor market is going to drive the cost of

construction through the roof at some

point. Yeah, I think that's an interesting

observation and certainly something that

we've been seeing even in the specialty

trades as well. Labor has been a major

driver in cost in recent years. I'm

curious, what do you do to make sure that

your subcrews are working up to your

standards? I understand you've got the job

site superintendents, but tell us a little

bit what that looks like. I'm a tough

builder to please. I'll be the first one

to invent it. I'm very particular, and I

kind of have OCD of that nature. Right.

Like, every line has to be straight and

clean, and it's real difficult for these

boys to work with me. But I think the

biggest thing is just communication. You

know, construction's one of the biggest

industries in the world, and we always

fail on communication. And, you know, the

clients communicate with their builders,

and the builder communicates with their

team, which are communicating with the

owners of the companies that send out

these guys to do the work. And we all

know, as the story gets told, things

change. So I think having that on site

presence greatly helps. I think treating

everybody with dignity and respect really

helps getting on the same page. We've

tried to use technology to help. We try to

get the superintendent some paper in their

hand that just kind of highlights what we

expect, and they communicate with that.

With the guys in the field, it really

breaks down to communication. Obviously,

quality control is a big part of that and

just kind of staying on top of it as you

see things unfold. We talked about the

current labor issue, but another big thing

that's come up recently in construction is

this trend towards sustainable design,

fortified construction, and then also

energy efficiency. Those are all three big

things that we keep hearing about. So

what's your take on all that? I think it's

exciting. I think the construction

industry has to evolve. I think if we're

not careful, those items can drive up the

cost of construction to where the

affordable housing is not so affordable

for the average american. So we have to be

careful with that particular part of it.

You know, a lot of it is just going to

have to be chalked up to growing pains

until we can get it figured out. But I'm

really excited about it. I definitely

think there's better ways to build, and

just trying to make sure that we can build

better, more efficiently and keep the cost

at a reasonable price is the sweet spot.

That's going to be hard to find for a

couple of years until we can get it all

figured out. Yeah, you're right. There's

all kinds of trade offs there, aren't

there? Pros and cons to everything. Yeah.

I'm curious, so this seems a little bit

non sequitur, but what is the most unusual

thing you have ever had a client ask for

you to include in their house? Ryan, you

might have to edit this out and we start

over. I don't know. The most unusual

thing, to be honest with you, is a red

room. Yeah, a red room. Okay. Yeah. I can

probably let my imagination figure that

one out, I suppose. Yeah. You know, I tell

my clients there's three people in the

world you don't lie to, and your doctor,

your lawyer, and your general contractor.

You know, if you want me to build you a

true custom home, I have to know exactly

what it is I'm building. So if I have to,

you know, soundproof some walls or put in

some extra blocking with. Through bolts or

whatever that may look like to make sure

you have the best time in your house that

you can, you know, it's fine with me. I

just have to know what I'm building. So

that's a little bit different. Yeah. I

don't know how I would have followed that

up. So a few years ago, a friend of mine

built a house, and the most proud thing he

was, he had in his house was a urinal. Do

you put many urinals in houses? I'm

curious. Well, not a stand up urinal. No.

I see a. I see a lot more trend towards

bidets lately. The last couple of years, I

feel like I've put a bidet, at least one,

in almost every single house I do. And

it's interesting what people ask for. You

know, it's construction. Construction can

be so difficult in that aspect because the

devil is in the details, you know? And

every. Every house has a piece to play in

putting the puzzle together, and it almost

has to. It's like a perfect symphony to

try to pull it off, whereas everyone has

to be in coordination to make work. Yeah.

Interesting. So you stepped your toe into

3d home printing. Tell me a little bit

about that. I know you've been kind of one

of the first to try that on a serious

basis and tell us a little bit about that,

how it went and what you think the future

may be there for it. I see 3d printing as

being a way to evolve the construction

industry. I'm one in particular, love the

idea of it. It obviously has pros and cons

and kinks that we have to work out. And

the price point is the biggest one and one

for one, side by side, whether you're

printing a wall or doing a stick frame

wall, the cost for the material is about

tit for tat. Either way, as we evolve the

software and the machines become more

efficient, that price point is going to go

down. As we figure out the mixture of

materials, I think that price point

continues to go down. But where you really

save at is the time. You know, a 2200

square foot house, we can print the walls

in about 17 to 20 hours. Wow. So you

imagine interior and exterior? Yeah, yeah.

Wow. So if you imagine you show up on a

job site and the slab is poured, the

plumbing underground is done, kind of like

your traditional method, you pull the

machine out, you print the walls, and

pretty much if you have the capability to

prefab the roof, which is something we're

looking into pretty heavy right now, to

set with a crane, we would be able to

print the walls, come back the next day

and lower the roof on top of it. And

pretty much within five days we'd have

underground plumbing slab, poured walls

printed and a roof on. That is. I mean, I

am flabbergasted by that. I had no idea

that it could happen that quickly. And

you're right, you prefab the roof and drop

it on. And that's amazing. So one of the

big topics right now too is AI, artificial

intelligence. Kind of curious. How do you

see that impacting design and building in

your business in the future? I think in

the next decade we're going to see AI take

over a lot of the design work, a lot of

the structural design, load calculation,

things like that, kind of the front end of

construction that people don't really know

or see much about. I think AI is going to

definitely be able to help on the front

side of construction in terms of AI or

robots being able to hang drywall or paint

houses efficiently. I definitely don't see

that taken off in the next decade, maybe

20 years from now, 30 years from now. We

have a long way to go from that

perspective. I think with machines, it's

going to change the industry. I know in

Germany they're experimenting with AI

software that's running a machine that

lays concrete blocks and it has the

ability where a human basically loads a

pallet of blocks in the machine and the

machine cements it and sits it down and it

has the capability to lay about 3000

blocks in one day, which is about ten

good. Like, you know, brick masons. So

within ten years from now, we may see some

of that happen, but I think the biggest

impact it's going to have is on the front

end. That's interesting. Let's talk a

little bit about, you know, we talked a

little bit about how you do those things,

but let's talk about building materials a

little bit. Anything exciting you're

seeing coming up in terms of actual

materials these days? Something that

really makes your socks go up and down, or

are we still just kind of stodgy and doing

the same old stuff? As manufacturers, I

see a lot of. Interesting concepts, some

good, some bad. I think sip panels are

very good, interesting products and not

necessarily a new concept, but it's kind

of gaining some ground where you're

prefabbing that structural insulated panel

and you're able to set the walls pretty

fast. I think the ICF blocks are a great

idea. You know, there's a company that

basically sells their blocks, almost like

a Lego, where you put the house together,

all of these, all of those different ideas

and those different materials. I think

it's all innovative and very exciting. We

just have to be careful because we don't

know exactly how it's going to respond

over a long term period. And, you know,

that's one of the biggest things in

construction, is it's always evolving

because we're always learning from our

previous mistakes. And that goes back

hundreds of years. You know, I mean,

we're, we just now, in the last, you know,

50, 60 years, understand how important it

is to have a footer under the house

instead of just putting it up on some

blocks or some rocks that you find in the

field. Right. So it's, you know,

construction has come a long way pretty

quickly. And as these new materials come

out, I think it's exciting and is

something certainly I keep my eye on. And,

you know, I cautiously proceed in the

right direction, I hope. I'm kind of

curious on something as a manufacturer.

Let's talk about finished work and finer

details. If you could push some of that

off to a manufactured prefabricated type

thing rather than have to have crews to do

it, would that be desirable to you, or

would you rather keep with the fit and

finish being under your control? I would

certainly prefer to go the prefab route. I

think the biggest thing is trying to find

that fine line of communication between

someone like me as a builder and someone

as a prefabrication house is trying to

communicate what that client wants. You

know, the biggest part of my business is

the ability to offer something unique. If

we're, if we're talking about building 100

houses that all looks the same, that's a

builder's dream and a prefab guy's dream.

But when you get more into like custom

homes, in that niche of custom homes,

every single house is different or has its

own different layout. And I think trying

to find a way to streamline the design

side of it where the prefab guys don't

have to spend so much money redoing

machines or setting up and, you know, that

type of scenario, I think that's where.

That sweet spot, so it really all started.

That makes a lot of sense. Kind of starts

with design and figuring out that sweet

spot. So you kind of gave a tease of this

earlier, but, you know, look into your

crystal ball. What does home building look

like in 20 years? Wow, in 20 years, are we

talking about what it looks like

aesthetically, cost wise, material wise?

That's a loaded question. Maybe

aesthetically and maybe a little bit about

just the functionality, the trades and

what it's going to look like for the

builder, will builders look significantly

different? I definitely think builders

will look significantly different. I think

as AI progresses, as the software

progresses, and as the tech progresses, I

see the builders being a lot more tech

savvy than we ever have been before. From

an aesthetic perspective, if I hit my mark

on 3d printing, I mean, I think that that

opens up the door to some pretty

significant design changes. You know, the

3d printing has the ability to print wavy

walls, you know, which can look really

cool, and they're also strong as they can

be and they break the wind instead of

trying to put a box in the window. In

areas that are heavily impacted with

hurricanes, tornadoes, I think 3d printing

is going to really play a factor in those

areas, even high snow loads, because the

walls are so much stronger. And, you know,

if you think about the thickness of a

wall, you know, our thickness is two by

fours, two by six. But if you're printing

with a machine, the machine literally just

has to travel that extra two inches every

time it turns a corner. So it's very easy

to achieve a ten inch wall, a twelve inch

wall. So I see thicker walls with cooler

designs in the ability to offer something

a lot more unique at a fair price point.

So I think we're going to see some kind of

like Jetson futuristic type of printed

houses in 20 years for sure. And that was

my favorite cartoon growing up. So I think

we're like all, aren't we? Like already

beyond when the Jetsons actually lived in

terms of years, but, yeah, we're going to

get there. Awesome. Slowly but surely. So

what do you really. Tell me, what do you

really love about what you do? That's.

That's a loaded question, too. I won't ask

what you eat. No, no. You know what? I, I

tell you, I don't feel like I've ever

worked a day in my life. You know,

construction, for a lot of people is just

a job and they go to it and they dread it

or they hate it. It's just a paycheck to

them. But I just love to build. I mean, my

slogan, right, that I tell everybody is I

can build anywhere, anytime, anything,

under any circumstance. And it's because

I, you know, I see it from that

perspective. I love what I do. I love to

build. I love my clients. I love that

relationship that I get to build with

people, both individually and

professionally. I get to see a lot of

different personalities and perspectives,

and it really opens up the world to me

just to see it from all different angles

and trying to achieve, you know, that

perfect solution for everyone is pretty

amazing. And just, you know, when you,

when you go somewhere like a raw piece of

land and there's nothing there, and six

months later, you've created the dream

that someone envisioned for years as

they're saving their money to build this

thing, you know, when they, when they give

you a hug or they cry and, you know, say

thank you and, you know, or whatever that

may look like. Or maybe I get the

occasional, hey, can you come for

thanksgiving? Or let's do something for 4

July? So a lot of my clients become

friends, you know, and I'm the godfather,

probably to 17 or 18 of my clients kids

over time. Wow. You know, so, yeah, so I

build a very unique, strong relationship

with my clients, for sure. That's probably

my favorite part. That's very cool. I'm

curious, what advice would you have for

younger folks out there who are thinking

about a career in design or construction?

Any real advice? How should they go about

that? How do they learn? Who should they

be paying attention to? I think the

biggest thing is they have to be real with

themselves and identify first and foremost

what it is they really like and then try

to seek out that professional in that

industry, whether that's design,

architectural engineering, building

framing, carpentry, roofing, whatever that

is they really enjoy doing and try to

apprenticeship. You know, I think the

industry would do really good to go back

towards apprenticeship programs. They

pulled apprenticeship programs out of high

schools for a long period of time. And

that's something that is kind of a

generational thing that we're going to

see. And that's why this labor market is

tight. If you go back and look

historically for about 30 years now, the

schools slowly have pulled the trades out.

And they're kind of saying, and their dads

are saying, you don't want to do that. Go

to college, get a degree. And for 30

years, that's kind of been the norm. And

all these kids are not getting into

construction the way they used to or their

dad was in it, and he's telling them, oh,

don't do it, don't do it. And, you know,

we're going to all pay for that in the

price point per square foot. And as an

industry and whole, just that conversation

of kind of pushing kids away from hard

work. But I think they definitely should

find apprenticeship programs, find the

right people to talk to. I always

encourage the younger guys. I get a lot of

messages on LinkedIn, Instagram, Twitter,

Facebook, TikTok, even, you know, just

guys just asking general questions. And I

do the best I can to guide them. And we

actually work with a college at ECU, and I

have a couple of internships that come

with me in the summers. One of them has

been with me for two years, John Spargo,

and he's going to actually come on full

time afterwards. So I'm really excited

that, that local college in particular has

pushed these people, these young guys and

women, to get into the construction

industry. And I think with saying that, I

think women play a big part of it. Women

make the best project managers. And I know

for a long time they say, oh, you know,

woman doesn't belong in construction. But

as this industry evolves, I tell you, I

see more and more opportunity for women to

get into construction than ever before.

That's awesome. That's great. Well, Kyle,

this has been a great time together. Thank

you so much. We're really close to

wrapping up what we call the business end

of things. Is there anything we haven't

covered yet today that you'd sure like to

share with our audience? Just keep being

innovative. Keep pushing forward, keep

evolving. You know, the more people tell

you no, just keep trying harder. All

because, all because 100 people are going

one direction don't necessarily mean that

that's the direction you should go. So if

you find yourself walking along on a road,

down a path, you're probably doing the

thing that no one else thought possible.

So just keep pushing forward. I love that.

Great, great advice and great wisdom

there. So I have to ask you before we

close out, if you'd like to participate in

a little thing we call our rapid fire

questions. So, rapid fire consists of

seven questions we're going to ask you.

Some may be serious, some may be a little

more on the silly side. All you have to do

is give a response, and the audience needs

to understand, if Kyle agrees to this

challenge, he has no idea what we're about

to ask him. So are you up to the challenge

of rapid fire? Well, being one of the. The

head had head leaders in probably the most

intense industry the world knows. I think

I can handle some rapid fire questions. No

doubt. Well, we asking questions. Ethan,

you want to ask the first one? Yeah, I can

do that. Question one, what's a product or

service that you bought or used recently

that was a game changer for you? Kind of

like, oh, wow, where's this been? You

know? Do you have something like that? I

think. I think definitely ICf blocks. You

know, at North Carolina, we don't have the

winters that the upper states use, and I

know the northern states have used ICF

blocks for a long time, but I think ICF

blocks are a great product that the south

doesn't really know about or the hotter

areas don't really know about, but they

work extremely well for basements and

things like that, and really easy product

to put together. It's definitely been a

game changer for me in terms of basements.

That's cool. We actually have a company

here in Pickwell, Ohio, and that makes ICF

blocks, and they also make some foam parts

for our systems as well. So, question

number two. What is a funny childhood

memory? A funny childhood memory? Well, we

have a river that is called the tar river

that flows through the state that goes all

the way to the ocean. Me, my brother, my

grandfather, and his best friend Pete used

to take the boat, and we'd put in behind a

Pizza hut in Franklin county, and we'd

take a whole day trip in a little John

boat all the way down to the ocean. And

about an hour and a half in now, this is

early 1990, 119 92. Cell phones were not a

thing yet now. And a snake fell into

jamboat from a tree. And I remember Pete,

who was. He was an old red deck now, old

country man, and he pulled out his shotgun

and pointed it right at that snake and

shot him. And he says, don't worry, boys,

I got him. And sure enough, the boat was

sinking all at the same time. So we

walked. Yeah, we walked the rest of the

way, and my grandmother was there waiting

for us. And she was just pissed because we

were about 5 hours late. She's like, what?

Why are you so late? And she's like, and

where's the boat? So, yeah, that's

probably one of my most fond memories. Oh,

my goodness. That's hilarious. That's a

good one. Alrighty. Question three. What's

your favorite sushi roll? Okay. Wow. I

have to go with the dragon roll. Dragon

roll is probably my favorite. Gotcha.

There you go. I don't know if that's

universal or. Not, but I think so, yeah,

pretty much. Okay, next question. If you

could spend a day with someone, anyone

from history, who would you spend that day

with? From history? So in. In the past,

right, someone's probably dead. I'd

probably say Benjamin Franklin. Well, my

business partner has confessed to me that

he thinks he may be Benjamin Franklin

reincarnated. So maybe I can get you guys

some time together. I don't know. You may

just discover that he's a little crazy.

Alrighty. Question five. What would you

most like to be remembered for at the end

of your days? I think for me, the most

important thing would be for my, my kids

to remember me as a good dad. I think

that's above everything. Love it. Love it.

Good stuff. Okay, next question. One of

our favorites here on the show. Um, if you

had to eat a crayon, what color of crayon

would you choose to eat? Well, my favorite

color is green, so I got to go with green.

Green crayon. Okay. It's weird how some

people base their a. They. They always

take this question very seriously. I'm not

going to ask you crayon, but a lot of

people say white because they figure it

won't show up on their teeth as bad. Okay.

Okay. Would have been the last thing I.

Thought about with, with the amount of

coffee that I drink on a daily basis.

Using that analogy, I'd have to go kind of

yellow. But. We'Ve gotten all kinds of

answers with that. Like, I mean, I don't

know, orange and green and red. Like

taking a big bite out of a, you know,

Macintosh apple. But I always think with

red, like, it'd look all, I don't know,

all bloody or something. I don't know,

maybe too much thought into it, but, yeah,

maybe so. Maybe so. All right, here's the

last question. Who was your favorite

teacher in school and what do you remember

them for? Wow. I would have to say it was

my 9th grade math teacher. Her name was

Miss Yoder, and in that time she was 82

years old. She was still teaching, and she

was just old school, man. Like, there was

no calculator, there was no anything. And,

you know, she used to give us such a hard

time. And, you know, we were. I was always

in advanced math, so I was already past,

like, algebra, and I was actually in the

pre calculus at that time. I went all the

way through calculus two and three. She

was just. She was real hard, real strict.

You know, she always used to tell us we

couldn't even think our self out of a

paper bag. You know, she's like, your

generation would suffocate instead of just

tearing the bag open, you know? She was.

She was hardcore. She was hardcore. But I

tell you, as hard as she was, I have to

dedicate probably my mathematical skills

to that one woman in particular, because

she made me use my brain instead of a

calculator, which was, you know,

calculators were always pushed real heavy

all through school to help you. She just

absolutely refused to even let them walk

through her door. So when I can shoot

numbers off the top of my head now, it's

definitely because of her. That is

awesome. Good answer. Hey, that was fun.

Thank you. So if folks, listeners, would

like to get in touch with you, visit your

website, all that type of stuff, how can

they do that? Yeah, so it's. I do my

business in my name because I take it real

personal. My website is kylebobbitt.com.

That's kylebobbitt.com. We're also on

Facebook, Instagram x, which used to be

Twitter, TikTok, all of the things. We

have a marketing person that does that for

us. I don't really know what all those ids

are, but if you type in Kyle Bobbitt or

Kyle Bobbitt LlC in google alone, you

probably can find us pretty quick. Cool.

Good deal. Well, this has been great.

Thank you so much. I've enjoyed this, and

you've provided us a great insight into,

you know, what's happening in your neck of

the woods, what's happening with building

in general, uh, where the future may go.

You are definitely on the front end of

things and putting up 40 to 50 jobs at a

time, I guess you gotta be. So, uh, kudos

to you. Good stuff. No, I appreciate that.

Thank you. Well, um, how we doing? Our

challenge words? I know, I got mine in.

Flabbergasted. Ethan, you worked yours in

right there. At the end with, uh,

Macintosh there. Macintosh. Kyle, I. If

you did yours, you got it in so good, I

missed it. Did you get your word in? I

did. When you asked me about urinals. I

said I was. I kind of dived into

construction and a piece by piece to make

a puzzle, and I said, it's almost like a

perfect symphony and it all has to work

together. Awesome. Symphony was your word.

Yeah. Yeah. Cool stuff. Yeah. Back to the

urinals, man. My friend was so proud. He.

I was at a relatively, you know, nice, I

call it a high class, highfalutin party at

his house. Everyone that walked in the

door, he had to take us to show us his

urinal. He was really proud of that. Was

it gold? Was it a golden urinal? It was

just kind of a normal looking urinal just

hanging there on the wall. Yeah. Yeah. If

it was a party at Trump's house, I think

it would have definitely been golden,

right? There you go. I hear he likes to

show people his golden toilet. Oh, wow.

Well, thank you so much to our audience

for tuning into this very special episode

of construction disruption with Kyle

Bobbitt of Kyle Bobbitt, LLC. Hey. Please

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ways of understanding and better ways of

doing things. And don't forget to have a

positive impact on everyone you encounter.

Make them smile. Encourage them simple,

yet very positive, powerful things you can

do to change the world. So God bless. Take

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