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Hi, welcome to the You World. Order, showcase podcast.
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This is Jill Hart, your host, and today we have with us Adele Bernard.
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Adele facilitates empowering you to embrace life's transitions with confidence, understanding, and resilience.
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Together. She works with you to eliminate the way forward. One transformative step at a.
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And she's the host of the podcast conversations. Welcome to the show. And now it's nice to have you here.
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Thank you for inviting me. It's a pleasure.
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Yeah.
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Feels like Old Home Week. We chat all the time.
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You were just talking about. You're you're changing your.
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Your tagline a little bit. You wanna share what what it's gonna be. Now.
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Which just came to.
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Sure
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It well as as.
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You know, and people that know me.
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That marketing tagline has been.
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Anemos right? Because I'm.
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Help you through transition.
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Right. Well, what does that mean?
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So the more I thought about, the more I.
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Tried to hone in on what that means.
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It's about coming home to whether it's your home, your physical home dwelling.
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Or your home in your body.
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And.
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I find most people don't know either.
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Because they're too busy doing.
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And.
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And it actually was triggered also by
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A native shaman, who said.
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Ye human beings have gotten it too complicated.
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If you wanna ground, take your shoes off and hug a tree.
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Edit tree anywhere, anytime.
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Any other questions, and I was like.
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Oh, my gosh! It's so simple! Yet we we miss that.
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And so I said, Well, what? How do I transform people? How do I help them through the transition.
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I bring them home.
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Then everything's possible.
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I have a great story about.
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Trees.
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That just happened to me when you were saying that I I just have to share it.
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I have, I.
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Brought a tree from my son's house, because.
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Like tearing up all the shrubbery over there.
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And there's 1 tree. It's pretty big, and I just like I love the street. I don't want you to tear it out so.
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He dug it up, and he brought it over to my house, and I planted it.
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And all the leaves died.
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And I I was just holding onto the trunk.
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Telling it, please live.
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And I've planted you with all these other baby trees and the mama trees right over there, and I just please live.
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And the leaves turn brown and curled up and fell off, and I was.
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I waited and waited and.
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Then, just as I was getting ready to reach over to pull it out, I noticed there was little green leaves all over the trunk.
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Like it lived.
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Yeah.
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Well, and that and that's a perfect example of.
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Of? Are we connected.
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To where we want to go.
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Or are we just like.
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Being transplanted, being transplanted, being transplanted and going nowhere.
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And the example is perfect, because when you.
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Get that new soil, or that new home, or the new job, or whatever the transition is.
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It's not immediate.
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You have to come home.
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To see the growth.
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To realize.
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There's new.
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Growth. There's new leaves coming. There's new.
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Aspirations, coming.
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Yeah.
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And the roots have to go down, and they have to like.
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Get into the community and become part of.
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The ecosystem.
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That's in.
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Yep.
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In the new place that they're coming home to.
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Yeah.
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It needs to become established as their home.
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When they've.
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They've made the transition. Yeah, this, this whole thing, like.
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Well, and.
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Totally, works.
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And it's interesting because I'm very connected to willow trees, and they're known as the Wisdom.
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The wisdom keepers of the.
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Tree Family.
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And one day I was sitting with them, and it was just like.
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What am I missing? I don't know what I was.
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Trying to figure out that day.
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But it was the message I basically got was.
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The wisdom is here we are the first.st
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Internet.
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Yeah.
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And I was like.
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What?
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And then, and so then it was like they went on to say that.
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As we grow as we have this big, beautiful tree above.
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We're the same.
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Below.
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And I was like.
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Huh!
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So we're trying to build this.
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Beautiful feature.
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But how much are we building it in? So it will last so it will grow and flourish.
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Because if we don't build roots.
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We're dangling in the wind.
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And when wind comes it will blow over, because it's not.
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And so as you, yeah. So as you're going through a transition.
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Okay, I want this new house.
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Okay.
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But have you thanked your old house.
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Have you?
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Understood the roots that you made, whether 6 months a year, whatever.
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Before you move on to this new house.
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Or this new job.
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Right.
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So it's being grateful and thankful for everything that has brought you to this point before you move to the next point.
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I'm giving space for.
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Yeah.
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New things, and.
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New connections to be made.
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And not it, expecting.
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When you transition into something that it's gonna be.
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As sturdy and stable as the thing that you're leaving.
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Because.
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You haven't developed the roots, and you haven't made connections, and you haven't.
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Given it time to.
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Kind of relax into.
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Being the new normal for you.
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And, on the other hand, it could be.
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Like if you're leaving a stressful marriage.
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It could be the 1st time you're breathing in a long time.
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Like.
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I can breathe.
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Like this is my space, however big or small it is.
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I don't care that I'm sitting on the floor.
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'cause it's my space.
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Right.
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This is. This is really interesting. My daughter is getting ready to move out.
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Yeah.
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And she's getting her own place.
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It's like.
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It's a closet.
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Yeah.
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Let's just be honest.
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It's her closet, though.
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But it's gonna be her closet, and we're and she's an hour from home.
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And she's just like getting ready to launch, and it's very exciting for her, because she.
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She's at the very beginning of her life.
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And on the other side my husband and I are looking at it like.
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We're we're transitioning into the back end of our lives.
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And.
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And.
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We're not gonna have any kids at home.
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For the 1st time in.
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You know our 30 years together.
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The 1st time in my whole adult life that I haven't really had kids.
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In my home.
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Yeah.
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Since I was in my twenties.
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So it's.
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Just an interesting.
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How the.
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The dynamics are happening and.
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We're we're all very excited, you know, for different reasons, and.
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This is interesting, how transitions happen.
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They don't just happen to the person who's transitioning.
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Even if you're moving or getting divorced or getting a new job.
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Or starting a new career, or.
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Becoming an entrepreneur. All these things they don't just impact you.
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Impact, everybody.
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They impact the community around you.
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And that's that's a good point. Because.
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As much as like, say.
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You know your last child's leaving the home.
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And I've had this with couples. They look at each other and go.
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Do we like each other.
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Do we like? Where are we in this situation.
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Because you don't have that child.
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Anymore, to interact, to buffer, to right.
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And I've seen couples really struggle.
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With.
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Finding themselves as the unit before they have babies.
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You know.
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Yeah.
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Retirement does that to people too.
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Yeah.
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When, like my husband, retired.
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About 3 years ago, now.
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And so, and he was a truck driver. So he was gone all but maybe 3 days a month for most of our marriage, and last few years he'd been gone. He was home.
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2 or 3 days a week.
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Yeah.
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That gone the rest of the.
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So.
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Having him come home.
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I've been living his life for him like.
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The whole time he was gone.
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He didn't have friends, he!
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Come home, and I wait on him hand, because you know.
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He's out there doing his thing, and I can do whatever I want when he's gone.
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Yeah.
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So when he came home.
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We had to really decide.
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Where our boundaries were.
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Yeah.
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We we both like our alone time. We need space.
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From each other and other people.
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Every day.
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And we like to do things together. We like each other.
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But.
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We don't want to have to do.
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For each other all the things all the time.
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Yeah.
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And it's it's been interesting how it's evolved, because.
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He's gotten out in the community. He goes to the gym 3 days a week, and he knows all these people, and he's made friends at the hot tub that he goes to a few times a week.
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Yeah.
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I mean, he's got all of these activities, and he knows people. When he goes to the grocery store. He's learned how to grocery shop.
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Yeah.
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I mean he never grocery.
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Before.
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Well, you don't, though.
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Right like when you're on the road all the time that like.
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You know they know the inside of convenience stores or trucks.
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Yeah, like, it's. It's a totally different life. But grocery shopping's a new adventure.
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Yeah. And and as the person who's the primary fooder.
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In the beginning, because he's learned how to cook.
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Even.
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Yeah.
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His idea of cooking used to be sticking things in the microwave, but we took the microwave out of our house.
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So.
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You have the toaster, and I bought them these cute little pads.
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To cook his stuff in the cast, but they're really tiny.
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Yeah.
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News.
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He's doing really good. It's.
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And he's developed.
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Well, and I think now it's like, you guys get to.
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Rediscover who you are.
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As a couple, and date and.
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You know. Hang out. And okay, we've hung out enough bye. Go to your respective places in your house or yard, or whatever right and.
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Yeah. And like that, that's the whole thing about.
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You know, transition.
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Is.
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If you're not clear.
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On what you want.
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You can't get mad at someone for breaking your boundaries.
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Yeah.
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If it's if it's a sliding.
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Scale, right.
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And.
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And.
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And even even with like your kids moving out too, it's like.
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You're so excited that they're starting their life together.
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And there are only a phone call away.
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Weather's 2 miles. 500 miles. Their phone call away.
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You know.
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And.
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And I think that gives them the little bit of safety of.
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Well, I'm out here, but I'm not alone.
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Yeah, she's moving to be closer to her friends.
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Who are up there at the University, and.
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It's.
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I'm so happy for her. I mean, this is just like such a great move for her.
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And she's got ideas about what she wants to do, and she's taking the steps that she needs to take in order to make them happen. But.
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It's just.
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Yeah, all of life is about transitions.
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I could just.
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And and being able to navigate them well.
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I think does take.
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Sometimes it. It's really helpful to have somebody along that can say.
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Yeah, you're gonna experience these sorts of things, and these feelings are valid.
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Exactly.
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And if you just need somebody to talk to about those feelings.
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Because sometimes like.
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I know when I got divorced.
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Many, many years ago, before the Internet.
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And my parents were only barely talking to me at any given time.
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I didn't.
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Have anybody.
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It was.
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It was horrible.
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It was like I didn't.
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I didn't know how to process the feelings I was having.
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And.
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I ended up changing jobs at the same time, and.
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Yeah.
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It was just.
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It was just really weird.
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And and lonely.
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And I even went to a therapist at 1 point. But I didn't even know.
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What to ask. The therapist.
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Or what to say to the therapist.
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Therapist, let me tell you that I left. It was like I I don't know what that point was.
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But I think I think it also like even with the people I work with.
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If you come and you're going well, I don't know.
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I just thought it.
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Try you up.
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Okay, what are we working on.
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I don't know.
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Do you have any questions?
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Maybe.
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And it's like.
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So.
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And I'm saying this for anyone.
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If you're going to go and get help.
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Congratulations.
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But you got to do a little work before you get there.
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So we know.
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Where you want to go.
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Sorry cause I might.
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Oh, well, you showed up, and you have nothing to say. But well, I can see that. You know you're in transition. You know. You're going through this.
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Okay.
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I don't want to tell you what you're doing.
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I want you to tell me.
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How to help you come home.
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How to help you come home to you.
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So you never end up in this space again.
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Right.
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Because I remember talking to.
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Different co-workers when I used to be in corporate, and I'd be like.
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So why are you leaving team.
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Well, it's gotta be better.
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And I said.
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Well, how's it going to be better?
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Well, because this is just a different team like it's it's, you know.
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And I said.
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But it's still you.
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What do you mean?
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I go unless you change.
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The team's not going to change. You're gonna get the same reaction.
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So you really want to change teams, you want to change you.
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Right.
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You are always in.
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But you're asking some questions that lead them to understanding that.
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They need to be an active participant in this, and it starts with them.
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Yeah.
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But it's also like, if you are just changing, because someone says, Oh, well, this positions, okay, I'll come.
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Hawaii.
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Why are you feeling? You need to leave the team? You're on.
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Right.
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Because maybe the team you're on is the best fit for you at this time. But if you don't.
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Examine it.
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How? How do you know? The next team is a.
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Gonna be the same thing.
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It could be better, it could be worse. But you don't know, cause you haven't done self discovery and.
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Yeah. And it's just it's just interesting, because I have a friend who just left her job.
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Because she got poached right. I mean, it still happens.
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And.
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She said. She's never.
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Had such.
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An emotional.
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2 weeks.
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Ever.
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Like some people just wouldn't talk to her.
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Others were just like.
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Why are you doing this to us? And she's just like.
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She was shocked at the emotion, and I said.
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But I totally get it. She's like, why? Because you are the encourager, you the team player. You're a phenomenal leader.
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And she's like, Oh, and I go.
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And you've actually stayed long enough for people to get to know you.
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Right, I said, but I also understand. You go into this other company.
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Because it's ready to take off.
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Right. It's smaller they got, you know. They have forward, thinking she's a forward leader like.
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You know I get it.
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That's what you.
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Have to deal with the emotions.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. And she's surprised. Right?
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Then sometimes you're just not expecting them.
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Because you don't know what you don't know.
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Yep.
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Until you get to the other side.
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It's like.
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Yeah.
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When I went into the therapist.
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I didn't know what questions to ask.
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Yeah.
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I didn't even consider that I should.
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Talk about your divorce.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Or how I was feeling about it.
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Yeah.
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Or.
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You know.
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Just to process the emotions that I had.
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Yep.
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Cause I initiated. It was like.
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I was either going to get divorced or commit suicide, and I decided that, you know divorce was probably the better of the 2 choices.
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Yep.
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So I left him.
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But I I.
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I didn't really have the emotional.
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The the tools back in those days.
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We didn't talk about our emotions.
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No.
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We didn't talk about how we were feeling about things. You just powered through it, and.
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You know it.
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What you filter, or who you were fundamentally didn't matter.
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Yep.
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Was just like you were just expected to be. Whatever.
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The team needed.
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Yeah.
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And put up with whatever.
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Well.
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Especially as women.
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And that's changing.
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Because we are in the cycle of emotions.
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As a world.
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Yeah.
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And.
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I think it's a great thing.
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I know, but.
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Everyone's getting caught off guard.
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Including I did because I like I used to go. I was one friend.
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Man your water works. Oh, leave me alone! I'm like no, that's cool, like. I don't know how you do that.
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Right like I. I'm always like amazed that people can cry at movies. I'm like, How do you do that?
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Well.
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Waterworks have turned on, because I'm just like.
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I feel it all now, right, because I'm allowing myself to be the empath.
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Hmm.
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Right. I just didn't. I didn't.
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I used to block it because I was like.
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I was bombarded with it, and I didn't understand it.
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And now it's like Oh, I understand it! I can.
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You know, and I still.
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Have to be very careful, being with groups of people and.
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You know, because I can get over.
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Overwhelmed.
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Really really easy.
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It's being.
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More emotionally connected, I think, to who we are.
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As as opposed to going through.
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Through life, just.
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Being told what you should think and feel.
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And for me that that happened a lot.
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In my life.
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Well, but it's also it's also like that's part of coming home to you. It's like what conditioning.
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What untrues and what beliefs have you been told that aren't yours?
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And can you let go of that.
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Yeah.
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Are they serving you?
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Yeah.
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And just really looking at them.
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And I'm.
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Personally, I'm so grateful that.
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We've we've come to this point as a.
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Civilization. Really, the whole world is, is moving in this direction.
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Yep.
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Where it's.
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It's more important. The being is more important than the doing.
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Because the doing always gets done.
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Somehow.
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Somehow, some way it always gets done.
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And it's also more important to realize that the.
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I.
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And the you are leaving.
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It's the me and the unity.
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Right. If we look after.
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The me in our heart.
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Hmm.
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The community of the unity will happen.
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You.
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And and you know, and and I'm gonna say, like.
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We've come through some crazy times.
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We still got some more.
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David. It's all in how you choose to.
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Move through.
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I'm choosing to be the duck.
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Yeah.
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That's nice.
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Thanks for sharing on my day.
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Okay.
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It.
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It seems like over the last 4 or 5 years.
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Since.
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It's like the pandemic was.
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A turning point for the whole world.
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And there's like before that. And after that.
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But it seems like after.
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Is.
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Even though.
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There's a lot of emotion trying to be jinged up.
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On!
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All sides of the political.
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Field out there.
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But I'm very apolitical. I I really could care less.
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I think they're all.
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They're all the same, and they're they all need to go. But that's just my opinion.
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In time.
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But I think that.
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I'm sorry.
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In time. It's not going to happen overnight, but in time.
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Yeah, I think that. And I think in time they will all go.
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But.
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It's interesting that more and more people are starting to feel like.
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I feel.
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In terms of.
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You know, they're just. It's just a show.
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And it's not.
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I don't have to have an emotional reaction to everything that's going on.
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Hmm.
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I can just watch it.
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And.
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And recognize that.
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It's moving in a direction.
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It'll move in a different direction.
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There's probably something else totally going on.
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Behind the scenes that we aren't even.
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Being shown.
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So it's not even reality.
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We're just giving.
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We're just given this show and told how to.
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To respond. The people on this side should respond like this, and the people over here should respond like this.
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Well.
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Does the audience participation.
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And.
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It's like.
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And the guidance I've been.
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Getting, is.
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Choose the light for whatever that looks like for you.
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And the outcome will be the outcome, because it's already in the plan.
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But choose the light. For what?
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That looks like for you.
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And.
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That's all you can do.
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Right.
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Yeah, I just enjoy.
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Like vote don't vote like well.
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I I don't agree with not voting.
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I don't care what your political lease.
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Say something somewhere.
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Put. Follow your light, follow your inner light, and you'll like that's that's the whole thing about coming home, because.
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When when you're home in your body, following your heart.
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Not your head.
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There's never a wrong decision.
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Can't happen.
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Your heart won't lead you down the wrong path.
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Right, and even if it looks like the wrong path, because, like.
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Something bad happened, or whatever you're like.
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Okay.
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That could be good, it could be bad. What's the bigger reason? What am I learning this for? What is this happening for.
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Right.
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And it's.
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You just.
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Gotta do what's best for you without harming others.
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Yeah.
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So how do people work with you?
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Well.
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Let's see.
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So they can. They can book a 1 on one session.
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And have like I call it the look and feel.
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And so.
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Yeah, they could book a 1 on one session. But I also have a few more spots for my 3 month program.
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And so that's more of.
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Going through the full journey of where you are. What's going on doing the transition.
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Making sure you're okay on the other end.
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Before you know and.
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Yeah.
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Good.
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So.
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Is that a group.
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No, it's 1 on one.
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One, online, okay.
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I've been guided to offer that because people are.
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Wanting to shift.
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But they want the.
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Amanity to do do it on their own.
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Makes perfect sense.
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Right. And I was like, cause I was gonna do a group and.
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It was like.
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These, these.
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These people out of the program might want to get a group going after.
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And I'll allow that when that comes. But.
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For right now it's like they.
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I'm being guided to.
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People are too fragile.
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Yeah.
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They're they're trying to come home to themselves.
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After.
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The last 4 years before they.
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Venture out into this new.
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Unknown.
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They know it's better. They know it's good.
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They just don't know.
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And so.
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Yeah, it's just.
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Yeah.
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Getting the roots down, to to get established, and to.
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Yeah.
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Get your footing and.
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To feel confident in.
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And being.
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A being.
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No.
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Before they start.
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Like.
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Letting their light out and.
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Putting out their leaves.
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Well.
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And.
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As we started this conversation I had to do it first.st
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Because I've like. I've always felt myself very sharing my light, sharing the love and kindness, and then it was like.
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Even I was kind of going.
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What?
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What are you talking about? More? What do you mean more.
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Right. Step up more shine, more like I'm like.
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Okay.
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And so I've done the transformation myself. So now I'm I'm more aware.
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Of how.
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I can help people.
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And and.
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And it's working like it's working with, like your DNA, it's working with the land of your house is on. It's working with.
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All those you know, like we said untruths that the.
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The conditioning, the beliefs that aren't yours.
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Those have come down through your lineage right.
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A lot of healing for the feminine.
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Not women, fem.
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This happening.
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And.
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And, more importantly, like the walls need to come down.
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Those those what we think are safety barriers are actually.
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Hurting us, now.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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They're they're keeping us from being connected.
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Yeah.
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To others.
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Yeah.
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Yes, bad things have happened, but they don't have to hold you back anymore.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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It.
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And it's coming to your truth, not my truth, for you. Your truth.
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And only you know your truth.
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I'm just here to hold your hand while we figure it out for you.
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I like that. I like that a lot.
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Nice.
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Are you a channel.
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Yeah, I, thought.
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I thought I remembered that, and.
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And you've always been a channel you've had.
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Encounters with.
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The others.
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Or since you were really young.
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So whether like.
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It's your pet.
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That needs help.
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You need help.
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I wouldn't say I'm a medium, but I have channeled from the other side for loved ones if they come through. I don't say no.
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It's.
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By.
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Whoever is in front of me.
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Is who comes in.
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Because my guides talk to your guides, and then they.
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Hash it out before it comes through me.
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It's like, what are we doing? What are we doing? Okay?
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I think I know.
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Okay. Nope, you're taking a different road. Okay? And so it's it's a journey, too. Right?
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No no turn here.
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Yeah, it's a journey. And so and see, that's the other thing, too. Right? Because AI is so prevalent in our lives.
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And people have forgotten how to.
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Just drive.
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Without a GPS.
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Or how to use maps.
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So if you can't drive your car.
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No, if you can't drive your well.
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Kids nowadays don't even know how to. They don't even have the wiring to understand a map.
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Hmm.
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So if you don't even know how to drive a car to find a place without GPS.
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You think you're finding your heart from your head?
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Interesting. I just got a flash about.
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Kids and clocks.
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They can't read them.
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They can't read analogs. One of my kids cannot read.
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An analog clock, no matter how many times I've tried to teach her, she just like.
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She's 20 and.
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She's always had digital clocks around.
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Yeah.
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The other ones knew how, but she.
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She just never.
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Well, and and they
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I.
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I don't know who did the science on it, but they.
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Maybe Bruce, Lipton.
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I don't know. I don't know.
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But there was.
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Scientists that say.
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Like the 25, and under.
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Never be the clock. We'll never know how to do a map.
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Like the the basic things that we knew grew up with whatever.
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They just have no comprehension.
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Telephones.
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If they don't have that wiring right.
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And I was like, that's so weird. But yet.
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Can they get you anywhere in the world with their phone, whether they speak the language or not?
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Right.
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Yeah.
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So, and then and then you come to the Canadians, who just messed up all the way because.
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We had the American system.
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And the British system, and we mash them.
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So sometimes we're talking ounces. Sometimes we're talking inches, sometimes we're talking feet, sometimes we're talking.
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Kilometers like you're going.
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Whatever.
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We're Canadian.
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We did our own way.
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Yeah.
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I just speak 2 languages.
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Not really.
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We couldn't even decide to just stick with one.
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Well, no, but I mean it's just because we have Quebec. But if you think about like, because where I'm from in Alberta.
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Right.
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There's no French spoken here.
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I know.
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It's all Spanish.
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To see.
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So like.
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I guess you know, if I go to the East I could understand the French.
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But if you go downtown, Calgary.
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It's Spanish.
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There's no French.
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Like so much so when I was working.
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And I was waiting for the elevator, and everyone was talking. And I'm like.
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You guys are all in Canada. Speak it.
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Dead silence!
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Well, thank you.
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Right.
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If you want to be in your country and speak your language.
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Then stay there. We came to Canada. We speak English.
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Unless you're in Quebec.
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Oh!
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That's true.
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But they're they're.
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Piggy.
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Quebec qua is, is a totally different French than France.
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Oh, yeah.
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Right.
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Like we I had. I had a kid in my class who was from Quebec.
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Who failed.
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French class.
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And our teacher.
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Probably drove him crazy because he's trying to learn a different language. That's.
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So close, but.
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Very different.
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Well, that's how we say about the new piece, too. You only can talk to them before they drink.
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Because once that kitchen party starts. Oh, my lord, you can't understand a word they're saying, because.
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The the pitch changes, the speed.
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Goes up, like.
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5 times.
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And you're like.
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What?
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And then you don't really care, because you're just having a good.
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Kitchen party.
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Like.
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Nobody remember in the morning, anyway. So.
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I know, but I mean.
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It's all good.
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Yeah. But as a sober person, I'm just like.
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Whoa!
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I just laughed.
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I don't know you guys are saying, but it's good time. Alright, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Damn!
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It seemed like you're having fun, that's all that matters.
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And so, yeah, so just to get back to when I work with people like they get that channel, they get that pure energy.
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Right. And so, as you were saying, going into that psychologist or psychiatrist saying.
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I don't know even the questions to ask.
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I trust the guides to prompt you.
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Yes.
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To go.
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See.
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So what's going on in your life.
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Well.
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I I'm splitting from my husband. Oh.
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Okay. So we have at least a lane. Are you splitting for Nut.
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Right, and so
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And I trust in that.
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I
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Because.
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I always say, whoever.
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Is meant to work with me. They find me.
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If you're not meant to work with me, you won't find me.
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Right.
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But no, if you choose to work with me.
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I will hold that container.
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Of love and compassion.
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And you never let alone.
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I love that.
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So this has been an amazing conversation. I really appreciate you joining me.
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So what's the one thing that you hope the audience takes away from our conversation?
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That.
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We've covered so much.
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I know that transition is a fact of life.
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We're always going through it. We're.
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Like, whether you call it transition change whatever we're always going through. It.
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And.
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I'm just here to say you don't have to do it alone.
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I would like to.
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Work with anyone who hears this and wants to work with me. It'd be my honor.
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Yeah.
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We're not alone. Let's do it together because we are a community.
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Moving into unity.
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And these are some.
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Interesting times.
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So.
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Let's help you together.
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Awesome. Believe it with that. Thank you so much.
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Alright!