Hey, I'm Paige Killian, founder and CEO of everything

with style. I've built a business helping busy moms of

littles get organized in three simple steps. Like many of my

clients, I love being a mom. And I also desire more. If you've

ever felt that stirring in your heart, that whisper or really

loud voice that keeps you up at night, then you are in the right

place. Because this is not a solo mission. Whether you're a

little curious or totally ready to be a mom, boss and use your

God given gifts to serve others step into your calling, turn

your passions into purpose, and still make it to the carpool

line on time, then girlfriend, it's time to pivot. I've got you

now let's get started.

Hey, hey, hey, welcome back to another episode of the time to

pivot podcast. It is middle of the afternoon. And so I feel

like actually had two cups of coffee today. That doesn't

happen usually. But I feel like I'm a little more awake than an

early morning podcast recording. Is it Monday morning for you?

Are you listening? Like my mom? Hey, Mom, I know you're

listening on the way to work on a Monday morning. It's this

little week, food for thought for you. If so, thank you for

being here. And I hope you have a great day at work today. If

you are joining in the middle of an afternoon, as I am recording

this, I want you to know that sometimes this time of the day

has given us a little extra time to play something out in our

heads to really think it through a little bit more full

disclosure. I recorded this episode earlier this morning.

And then I ended up doing a few different things. I had a little

zoom meeting for a website update thing I'm working on. I

had a lunch with some girlfriends of mine, which by

the way, if it's been a minute, since you've scheduled a lunch

with your girlfriends, put it on the calendar and make it happen

because I honestly feel like we are better moms, we are better

wives, we're better business owners if that's your jam. We're

better in a lot of ways if we can make that time to cultivate

relationships that are important to us. So as I'm sitting there

at the lunch table, I'm thinking about the episode that I

recorded earlier in the day that was supposed to go out today.

And I just thought, I don't feel like I really got the message

done. Right? I don't I don't really feel like I delivered

that message in the way that I wanted to. So I had a little

extra time to think it over. And I thought I'm gonna go home

after I pick the kids up from carpool. And I'm going to

rerecord this episode. And the reason I'm telling you all of

that is because there may be something in your life that you

decide you're going to put effort and energy into. And then

it turns out along the way, or maybe even hours later, or maybe

even weeks later, you look back on that thing that you did. And

you think I think I could have done that a little bit better. I

think I could have been more concise, or I think I could have

maybe laser focused a little bit more on the energy and effort I

was putting into this thing and I could have had better results.

Okay, look, coulda, shoulda, woulda, but the truth is, if you

have the opportunity to reflect on something, and you feel like

you know what? I'm gonna give it another go. I wanted to say

first of all, I don't think there's anything wrong with

that. I think that's great. We don't always have the luxury of

starting over or doing things over. I remember I did an

episode on the monster organization motivation podcast

a while back where I talked about it never being too late

for a redo. There's always a chance to go back and

reformulate and rethink and not kind of thing. We can't always

was that saying there's no there's only one chance to make

a first impression or something along those lines. But here's

the thing, if we are working on something, and we're putting the

effort, the energy, sometimes even the time and the money into

something, and it's not turning out quite right, sometimes.

That's where the lesson lies. And some of the things that I

said on an earlier episode attempt this morning. Some of

the things were really good, but then some of the things I don't

really feel like I spelled them out correctly, or I felt like I

wasn't really maybe giving the extra stuff forte that needed to

be there for this thing. And I just want to remind you that

nothing in this life is certain. I mean, they say death and

taxes, but I feel like some people don't even pay taxes. I

mean, really, truly, there are not a lot of things in this life

that are certain. I mean, listen, tell that to my husband,

who when he goes in to try to do the massage, one might think

it's pretty certain that, you know, that's gonna play out and

one thing leads to another and you know, what's gonna happen,

okay, I love I'm here for a massage. I appreciate that

effort. I want to reward that behavior. But it's not a

guarantee, it is not certain. But you know what, that never

stops him from trying. And I appreciate that. And I am

curious what is going on in your life these days, where you might

be not even trying because you feel like it's not a done deal.

It's not certain, because we might be missing amazing

blessings or opportunities or possibilities that could happen

with something that go even better than we could have

imagined. Because we're scared or there's mom, Gil, or we got

that impostor syndrome thing going on, or self doubt. We just

don't know all the howls and how to get things to work out,

right. And so we just don't even try. A lot of my organizing

clients that I work with, will feel that paralysis by analysis,

because they're like, Man, I see things on Pinterest, I go to my

friend's house and I see stuff, I'll go to The Container Store,

wherever. And I'll see how other people have done things. And I

just feel like there's so many options, that I get really

overwhelmed. And I don't know what to do in my space. And then

I just let it get disorganized. And it goes on and on and on for

too long. And it gets me stressed out and I feel

frustrated. And then I yell at my kids, which is really not

even necessary, because it's not their fault, because I need to

be putting in the organization on the front end in order for

them to keep up with it. And it snowballs into this big huge

thing. So then I won't even start trying to get organized.

And that's a lot of times when I'm being called to come in,

because they're outsourcing and they're like, I'm at this place

where I don't even know how to do it. I don't even want to try,

I need somebody else to come in and help me do it or completely

do it for me. And I respect that because there are some things

that are not worth our time and energy, if someone else could be

doing this better. But let's talk about something that you

are meant to do these days, you might be thinking about

something that's on your heart that keeps coming out for you.

And you think I believe that maybe this is something I need

to try. But it's not certain. And I'm afraid to do it. Or like

I said, whatever it is, I have mom guilt around not doing it

because I feel like I should be focused on other things with the

kids or I don't who am I to do something that imposter syndrome

kicks in? And you're like, what there are other people that are

doing this better? Like why should I even try, you should

try. And I'm going to tell you why you have been given a set of

gifts. And if you were not getting that overwhelming sense

that you need to do this thing, then that's not meant for you.

But if you are, it's time for you to be proactive and take

action. I talked on a recent episode about three steps to get

unstuck and feel more fulfilled. And I talk about the different

things that we can do to move the ball forward. I've talked

about my three E's philosophy, where originally in my

kindergarten class, I would give the kids three simple steps to

move the ball forward on setting goals in the classroom and

accomplishing them. But it wasn't overwhelming. And it

wasn't mega stressful, because we kept it really simple. Those

three simple steps. And once we did those, we would do the next

three steps. And then whenever I started organizing for my

clients, they would be totally capable of handling more than

three steps. But because there were so many other things on

their hearts, and their minds and their, you know, brains were

going in so many different directions. It was really nice

to have things simplified to three simple steps, right? Okay.

So if you're at a place now, where you're feeling like, Okay,

I have established that I want to work on this thing. But I

keep stopping that forward momentum, because I don't know

if it's gonna work out. It's not a certain thing. And I

understand what that's like, because I remember when the

pandemic hit and I had started this organizing business and

then I couldn't go in people's homes. I was like, What the heck

am I gonna do? I mean, talk about panic setting in I was

like, everything that I just worked for is going to be gone.

All these people are going to forget about me because who

knows how long this pandemic is going to last boy boy, we had no

idea I think originally they said like two weeks. Oh, Oh my

goodness, none of us really knew what was happening those days.

And I just thought, Okay, if it's that amount of time, or if

it's way longer, which we know, ended up being way longer there

to forget about me, nobody's going to remember to call page

if they need to get organized, nobody's gonna think of me,

because they need to get organized right now. And I can't

be there to be in their homes. So I did that lightning fast

pivot. And I was like, alright, well, I don't know anything

really about podcasting, other than the fact that I listened to

it. So that is definitely an uncertain thing. But I knew I

needed to try. Because I didn't know another avenue of getting

to those people, retaining them as customers and also building

up the possibility of connecting with new customers and clients.

I just, I didn't know what to do. And nothing was certain

during that time, don't you remember? Don't think about it

too hard. It might send you into a downhill spiral. It's crazy

time. I was freaking out. And I don't know where you were during

that time. But maybe there was something that you were working

on to. And then suddenly we're like, what do we do? So I

started thinking this morning, I'm in the shower, which look,

that doesn't happen very often. Okay, so I got my shower. And I

was doing all the thinking that's where I do a lot of good

thinking that and driving. And I was listening to Stephen

Bartlett. If you don't know you should check them out. If you

are a podcast lover, even if you're not welcome to the

podcast world get on the bandwagon. I absolutely love him

Diary of a CEO with Stephen Bartlett. I love his interviews.

I love the people he has on. So in the shower today, I was

listening to an episode that he did with Harley. Let's see

Finkelstein or Finkelstein, I don't know I'm, I'm like

immediately thinking back to the early grammar days of two vowels

go walking. The first one does the talking. I think it's E I

stop. So is that Oh, no. Steen Finkelstein, I'm gonna guess

Finkelstein? I don't know. Sorry, Harley. But the point is,

he is the president of Shopify. And he was talking while I was

in the shower. He was talking about if you have this idea,

even if it's bleeding, think back on it, give it a little

thought. And try it. What's the harm in trying it? Honestly, he

was talking about how starting a business these days is simpler

than ever, it could be less than two cups of coffee at Starbucks

is what he said in the interview, which really puts it

into perspective, like how many of us swing by a coffee shop and

pick that up two of those. If we just withheld those two days of

coffee and made it at home, and we put that money into starting

a business? Give it a try? What's the harm in that? So I

just want you to know that there are so many things in life that

are uncertain. And if you look at the amazing creations all

around us, tech stuff that makes our life easier. Oh, no

furniture. I mean, I'm sleeping in a bed that I find very

comfortable. Somebody had to have that idea of how to design

that mattress and get a bed frame on it. And put, you know,

a headboard and footboard. I'm just pulling this out of nowhere

right now, this example because I'm recording this episode in my

bedroom. So I'm thinking about the bed, something that I really

love and appreciate. And I use every single day, my bed,

somebody had to come up with the creation for that and the design

of that, right? And what if that person was like, but it's not a

certainty. It's not something that I know that people will

invest in a higher, more expensive mattress, because what

if somebody wants it to be more economical, you know what I'm

just not going to try, I'm not going to do it. Because there's

other people that have come up with mattresses, and bed frames

and headboards, and footboards. And it's not certain that I'm

going to do well in this industry, I'm just I'm not going

to try. I suggest we do not lean into that part of us the

doubting part of us. Instead, we rely on the fact that not a lot

of things are certain. And that does not mean that those things

don't have really great value, and really significant impact on

people's lives. And if those people didn't act on those

things and do those things, then that would be a missed

opportunity. And that would also not allow for other people who

could have used that product or that service to benefit from it.

Imagine what I just talked about those two random examples that

I've just come up came up with on the fly the bed, how valuable

is it to have a great night's sleep? How valuable is it to the

way that your next day is going to play out? My mom was in town

recently And we were talking about how she slept really well

on the guest bed. And she said, I think it might be time that I

invest in a new mattress because I am not sleeping so well

lately. And she's really done a great job of looking at her diet

really exercising well and making that consistent in her

life. So if she's not getting good sleep, it probably doesn't

have to do with those things, it probably has to do with the

mattress that she's had for many, many years. And it's time

to do an upgrade. So imagine the person who created whatever

mattress or springs or whatever kind of design and support that

they're going to put into this mattress that my mom is going to

purchase. Imagine if that person was like, it's going to be too

hard. Or what if somebody has done better than me, I'm not

going to try. And then my mom doesn't get the blessing of

having a great night's sleep that's going to filter into how

she feels for the rest of the day and the week and how it's

gonna end up affecting her posture and all that kind of

stuff moving forward. What about if I decided that the tech was

too overwhelming, and I was never going to start a podcast,

and it kept me stuck. And I had this thought and feeling that I

needed to pivot and I needed to do something to keep my business

afloat, and to stay relevant with people. But there were so

many other podcasters, who knew more about tech, or who knew

more about podcasting. So you know what, I'm just or who knew

more about organizing, there are plenty of organizers that have

been around long before me. And what if I just thought, oh,

gosh, nobody's going to be interested in my three simple

steps. Because there's other people who are doing great

things in seven or eight steps or 10 steps, or even like, a

isn't that like a 12 step program? I mean, what are people

going to think if I come out with this three step strategy?

Are they going to be like, ah, that is ridiculous. There's so

many moving parts, how could we possibly get it done in three

simple steps? That's false advertising? What if I held on

to all of those things that came up for me for sure, not going to

lie, I definitely thought all of those things. And what if I just

said, it's not certain. I don't know how this is going to play

out. And I'm not going to try.

I would have missed out on tons of blessings. And I also really

would have missed out on the fun and excitement and joy that has

come from this podcast and connecting with other people and

showing up to serve them in another way. If I can't be

physically in their home to help them get organized. I would have

missed all that. Because I failed to try. A quick reminder,

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back to the show. Now with the training needs to be a certain

level of researching, you want to make sure what you're doing

is something that people might be interested in, right? You

don't just want to be like, hey, to try to do it. You know what I

told you it was the end of the day. So I don't even know if I

can come up with something but something ridiculous. That makes

no sense. Yeah, I'm gonna come up with this thing. And I'm not

going to ask anybody about it. I just, I'm just gonna put it out

there and see what happens. I mean, chances are somebody might

be interested in that product or service. But if there hasn't

been a good amount of research behind it, and you don't know if

it's actually needed, and you haven't gotten any feedback from

anybody, maybe pump the brakes. But other than that, give it a

try. What's the harm in giving it a try? Think about your

financial situation. Think about what you are able to put toward

this. I don't know business venture or even if it listen, it

doesn't even have to be a business. If you listen to these

episodes, and you're like Paige, you keep talking about something

that I maybe might be interested in, in a business sense or

something that I need to financially contribute. This can

be something that you're trying to work on in your home that

you're trying to better that you are committed to focusing on

because you want it to grow or develop. This could be a hobby

that you have, that you never need to get any money from. But

it's something that you really want to hone your craft you

really want to work on it. You want to give it some time and

energy and maybe a little bit of money toward it because of is

important to you. Maybe that's what you're thinking about these

days, that is equally if not more important, we need to serve

ourselves in order to show up for other people, I truly

believe that. So if that's something that is on your heart

and mind these days, and you're like, but you know what, I don't

know, like, let's say, guitar, I don't know, if I'm going to be

any good at it. I don't know, if I'm pickleball, everybody's

doing pickleball these days, I don't know if I'm going to be

any good at that. I don't know, well, nothing is certain, you

might not be good at it, you might be terrible at it. But you

also might have a lot of fun. You also might find that you're

looking forward to it each week, you also might find that you end

up making great relationships, and you're cracking up, and

you're burning all of these extra calories while you're

laughing. Because you are having the time of your life totally

being terrible at pickleball. But you are having so much fun,

you and this new friend, maybe that you met, you guys are

having such a great time? Well, I would think that that is very

successful. So you most certainly may not be amazing at

it, you most certainly may never make any money at it. But are

you having a good time? Are you getting a little energy burned

off? Or are you maybe creating relationships with people that

you're doing this with, or you may be getting some great

exercise going on, and you're starting to look and feel better

about yourself? Well, that is amazing. And that is worth it.

And you know what's interesting about that, if you do try

something like that, even if it's not a big huge success in

the way that you thought it was gonna be, but you do start to

find some fun in it. And you do start to see some blessings that

maybe you weren't expecting, guess what can then happen. You

could absolutely double down on this and be like, You know what,

I have this newfound confidence of trying something new. Because

maybe that didn't work out exactly the way I hoped. But I'm

having such a good time. And I'm feeling pretty confident about

trying new things. I'm going to try something else that's new,

whether it's a hobby, or you are going to try and find something

that you want to sink your time and effort and energy into and

maybe a little bit of money to maybe a lot of money. Maybe you

have figured out something that you feel like would be so

beneficial to somebody. And you're now at that place where

you're like, Okay, this is the moment, I need to fork over some

serious cash, even though this may not be something certain.

But I'm going to trust that there's some kind of plan here

and this thing keeps coming up for me and I'm gonna give it a

try. And what is the harm in trying? Because even if you

don't do well, you could end up finding massive blessings along

the way in the lessons you're learning and again, take those

and put them toward the next thing. Nothing is certain try

anyway. You never know what could come of it. I have to tell

you I'm in the middle of something right now that I'm

really mulling over didn't even know if I was going to say

something about this because my incredible team at the podcast

boutique who helps me put together my podcasts week after

week. They also did an insanely amazing job shout out to Liam on

my audiobook getting my book actually on audiobook recorded

and edited beautifully and now it's on Amazon and you can get

that I also work with them on my YouTube channel and not for lack

of trying they have done a great job but for whatever reason the

YouTube channel has not taken off and less than maybe it's

because part of me felt like it needed to have the kind of

success that the moms organization motivation podcast

had or even this podcast I started the time to pivot

podcast totally feeling like you know what I have this new

thought on my heart I feel like I need to go in this different

direction i Nothing is certain I'm gonna try anyway and I'm

gonna lean into it. But I had that in the back of my mind I

was like this is gonna be a total fail like this could

really be something that tanks because I did this other thing

and it went so well and like what if I have these great

expectations and that doesn't work out because what it ended

up within the first Gosh, let's see what there were some crazy

things that happened was like I want to say it was in the first

two days. It ended up making it into the charts. Yeah, it got on

the in the US charts. Amazing. did not think that was going to

happen especially with the category that I was in with some

big heavy hitters. Additionally, after that, I found out that it

is ranked in the top 10% of podcasts globally. Okay, that's

incredible. Didn't think that that was like in the first two

weeks or something crazy. As of the time to pivot podcasts

coming out amazing, right? And then the kind of tapered off a

little kind of plateaued a little bit in these early weeks.

And I'm hoping with that consistency, because I have

learned a lot of lessons from the other podcast, that I can

apply those two, this one, and I can not worry so much about the

charts, or about where it falls in the podcasting lineup against

other people, I just have to think about whether or not this

is being something that's well received and inspiring other

people motivating other people. Can I just tell you, not only

have I been so grateful for some of these amazing reviews that

are being posted, but I have gotten so many text messages

from people saying, oh, my gosh, page, that thing that you talked

about on that episode. That's how I've been feeling. That's

exactly what's been going through my mind. And I just

thought I was crazy. And then other people start telling me

about something that they had heard on one of my other podcast

episodes, and then I said something similar. And it landed

differently on this one, because they're at a different time in

their life, a different season in their life, we know,

especially if you're a mom, like you know those seasons. It's

like a roller coaster, sometimes, the ups and the

downs, oh my goodness, I want to learning all those lessons along

the way. And sometimes we're hearing something for the second

or the third time. And that's when it takes. And that's when

we're like,

oh my gosh, I heard you say this before. And now it makes sense.

Now it's clicking, or it's something I've been thinking

about. And now I'm hearing it for the third time. And now I

feel like, okay, maybe it's not certain. And I don't know what's

going to happen. But it's time to try. So I just want you to

know that if there's something that is brewing, there's a

reason for it talks about on a recent episode feeling called

you are capable, if you are being called to do these things,

I don't think God will put these things in our heart, if we're

not capable of doing it, it might not look like how we

thought it was going to, it might take some other shape and

form. Like I started talking about my YouTube channel, I took

a little break for a little while. Because I don't know, if

I just have those great expectations, the podcast really

took off. So I hope that the YouTube video would wasn't my

YouTube channel, it's like, I would get some views. And then

on some of them, they would be like way more than the others.

And I just thought, you know, I've committed to this, I've put

in the time and effort. And if I'm not seeing the kind of

results that I want to see from it, I can always push pause,

which is where I'm at right now I'm temporarily pushing pause,

I'm not hanging up my hat because I know that there's some

value in it, I just need to do more work and figure out what it

is that I can do to make that better. Maybe that needs a good

pivot, right? Because that's kind of the name of the game.

This has been a place in my life where I'm feeling like, Oh, my

goodness, I'm gonna commit to these things. I'm going to set

these expectations. But if it doesn't work, I need to be

willing to pivot. And I'm in the middle of that right now with

the YouTube channel. And that's okay. I'm trying to work it out.

I want to try. If it doesn't work, I want to step back for a

second, I want to reassess it. I want to figure out why do I

think this is working? Why is it maybe not working? Should we

revamp some things? And we're always a work in progress.

What's going on for you right now that you are thinking, I

tried this thing didn't quite land the way I wanted. I'm in a

place of transition, I need to make the pivot. I'm scared. I'm

fearful. There's all the self doubt, and maybe some mom guilt

creeping in. But I feel like it's something that I want to

continue pursuing. Great try, maybe you need to revamp some

things. Maybe you need to ask for help. Maybe you need to ask

somebody else. You know, I started doing this thing like

this not quite taken off the way I wanted. What do you think? Or

ask that same person maybe that you're working with and saying,

Do you have any ideas for something else that we could do

that can move this along faster? There are lots of ways that you

can make that pivot with grace, because it's not always going to

be what we planned with confidence. Because we know that

nothing is certain. Nobody can be certain of anything. So we

can be confident going into something and just say you know

what I'm going to try. What's the harm in trying, I would love

to know today what it is that's going on in your life. And I

would love to know how I can help support you. Because it can

be really lonely. It can be really scary sometimes. And even

if you've got a great support team around you, some people

might not understand what you're thinking about doing. And I just

want you to know that I would love to support you. I would

love to hear what you're thinking about these days. And I

would love to find a way for us to move forward together, and do

that in three simple steps. So if that's something that you're

feeling like right now, you just need a little extra support,

please reach out to me you can go to my contact page at

everything was style.com. Or you can just find a link in the show

notes to this episode. Reach out to me, let me know what it is

that's on your heart these days, we can schedule a quick 15

minute call where we can figure out if working together is the

next best step I can tell you about the different

opportunities that we can work together have a 90 minute laser

focused zoom session we can get together, we can actually get

lots of ground covered during that time. It's like a one and

done. And then I send you on your way cheering for you saying

prayers for you. And then hopefully you'll get back to me

and tell me sometime how it's going. There's also a six month

program, a way to work with me where it can be like an ongoing

thing so that you don't feel so alone, because some of these

great big things that you are going to be trying and putting

it out there, you should totally try. Let's just do it. And it

needs to have some time attached to it, you need to do one thing.

And then we need to get back together and talk about it and

have that accountability. And then we do another set of

threes, see how that plays out. And then you come back to me and

we keep going back and forth. So you don't feel so alone. And we

continually go through this process together. So you feel

supported. And you have that better chance of success. When

we are asking people to come into our lives and support us

that can be really vulnerable, right? You can be like, Oh, I

don't really totally know what I'm doing. But I really want to

try this thing. And I would love it if you could support me in

that. That can be a super vulnerable thing. Even like my

amazing organizing clients, when they asked me to come into their

home, that's a super personal space to be in. So I just want

you to know that I definitely will treat you with care, I

definitely will appreciate that. That was a big step for you to

reach out. I'm so grateful to be in a position to be able to work

with you in that way. So just know that if you are in that

time right now, that transitional time and you're

wanting to make something happen, and you just don't know

how to do it, you're not alone, I have definitely been there.

And in some areas of my life, I'm still going through it. So

it's gonna be okay. It just is nothing is certain. But try

anyway. And you could end up seeing the most amazing

blessings that come from it. And I cannot wait to cheer you on.

So reach out to me if you need support. And just know no matter

what I am absolutely cheering you on. I'm so excited for you

because it's not always easy to try something new. But it is

definitely worth it. I hope you are having a great day. Your

week ahead is productive, and restful. You might need that

right now. If you need to take a little rest, take a little rant,

take a lot of rest. And I look forward to talking to you next

week. Thanks for listening. Thanks for listening to another

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meant to be shared. Don't keep them to yourself and stay in

your comfort zone. This is your time to pivot