I'm about to prescribe your perfectionist cure.
Speaker:Hi, I'm Katie McManus, business strategist and money mindset coach. And
Speaker:welcome to the Weeniecast! If you want to
Speaker:prepare to start a business before you even have an idea, before you
Speaker:figure out what your niche is, before you make any
Speaker:plans to quit your corporate job, here is the number
Speaker:one most important thing that you can work on right now. And
Speaker:that thing is be bad at. Just be bad.
Speaker:Go and do things that you've never done before and suck royally at
Speaker:it. Get used to being bad at stuff, right? Because
Speaker:when you start a business, let me tell you, it's not just offering
Speaker:the service that you're going to be selling, it is
Speaker:doing a buttload of other stuff that you've never done before,
Speaker:even if you come from sales. Oftentimes, my clients who come from
Speaker:sales, I have to retrain on how to sell their services
Speaker:because the sales process is very different. Selling your own
Speaker:time is incredibly vulnerable. It feels
Speaker:like you're putting yourself up for a whole ton of
Speaker:rejection, which you are. It's. That's the nature of sales. But
Speaker:if you're not used to being bad at, you're going to do it once and
Speaker:then say, I never want to do that again. And then you're going to quit
Speaker:and then you're going to have to stay with your nine to five job and
Speaker:your dream of owning your own business is never going to come true.
Speaker:And it's not just sales that you're going to be bad at. It's marketing.
Speaker:It's writing content for social media, it's creating video content for
Speaker:social media. It's learning how to use an email marketing
Speaker:system. It's understanding how to create a website
Speaker:or how to have someone else create a website. And then knowing how
Speaker:to tell if it's good or not. It's learning how to speak, it's learning how
Speaker:to go on a live stream. It's learning how to be on a podcast.
Speaker:There are so many skills that you're going to have to learn when you start
Speaker:the business that you're just gonna have to suffer
Speaker:through being really shitty at for the first dozen
Speaker:times you do it or more. And if you don't have a resilience to
Speaker:being bad at it, then, my friend, I'm sorry,
Speaker:starting a business just isn't for you. This is what I call the perfectionist
Speaker:cure. Because the reason we're afraid of being bad at stuff is because we
Speaker:expect ourselves to be perfect at it. We don't think anything is worth doing if
Speaker:we can't do it perfectly. And this is so hard for people
Speaker:with ADHD, right? Because we have this experience of
Speaker:learning incredibly fast when we're interested in something. And
Speaker:when we learn that fast, we gain this expectation that we're
Speaker:just good at everything the first time we try. I can't tell you a single
Speaker:crafting hobby that I've ever had that took me a long time to learn because
Speaker:I was so interested in it. So much so that I will brag that my
Speaker:knitting teachers were really impressed with me, that I learned how to do, like, a
Speaker:cable knit with, like, minimal instruction and
Speaker:just like, kind of a glance over my work. I know you're super impressed. We're
Speaker:also incredibly good at avoiding stuff that we're bad at,
Speaker:right. If you're bad at something in your job, you tend to find the
Speaker:workaround for the workaround. For the workaround that will help you avoid doing that thing
Speaker:forever. Or, and this is true for many of us, I
Speaker:know there's always that one task that you're
Speaker:bad at enough that your manager or your coworkers are like,
Speaker:don't worry, we'll do this for you because you cannot be trusted to do this
Speaker:well, okay. There's something about you that you just can't handle this. And that's
Speaker:fine. You're good at other things. We will delegate this out to someone else.
Speaker:We do not have a great resilience to being bad at
Speaker:things. We don't have a great resilience to failing. So there are three
Speaker:tactics that I find really helpful. When you're trying to build your resilience
Speaker:to being bad at and move yourself away from that
Speaker:perfectionist mindset. And this serves you when you're starting a business.
Speaker:This serves you in jobs. This serves you in relationships. This serves you when you're
Speaker:trying to learn a hobby or how to do something like cooking. It
Speaker:serves you in the sports, which I have a little story about. And really,
Speaker:it's something that once you learn how to be bad at stuff, you actually
Speaker:become unstoppable. When you learn how to deal with that feeling of,
Speaker:oh, God, I'm failing. I'm actively failing, oh, no, I just failed again. And I
Speaker:failed again. And I failed again. People are going to know that I'm a massive
Speaker:failure. Once you learn how to be with that, nothing can stop you.
Speaker:No judgment from other people will stop you. You're not going to freak
Speaker:yourself out about this not being good enough. You're going to become a
Speaker:powerhouse, to get whatever you want in this life.
Speaker:Okay, so the number one most effective way
Speaker:to get good at failing is obvious. You have to fail
Speaker:on purpose. And when I say fail on purpose, I said this to a client
Speaker:the other day, and I was like, what's something that you are bad at? He's
Speaker:like, skydiving. And I was like, cool. That's not
Speaker:something you want to be bad at. So don't try to fail with skydiving.
Speaker:Then he's like, skiing. And I was like, cool. It's summer.
Speaker:You can't practice being bad at skiing in the summer unless you really
Speaker:want to hurt yourself falling down a very rocky mountain. It's funny.
Speaker:When I asked him that question, I was expecting him to say something like
Speaker:macrame
Speaker:or speaking a language or something. I don't know. And,
Speaker:yeah, it didn't go the way I thought it would. So when I say this,
Speaker:I want you to think through what are the things that you can practice being
Speaker:bad at that won't end in a nice little memorial service for
Speaker:you or with you in the hospital? And disclaimer, anything that you
Speaker:do that gets you hurt is your responsibility. I take no ownership of that. As
Speaker:the host of the Weenie cast, this is all just for inspiration's
Speaker:sake. What it inspires you to do is hopefully something that keeps you safe.
Speaker:When you think about failing on purpose, I want you to pick something that is
Speaker:disparate from your work. It is not associated with the thing that you want
Speaker:to do for your business. Because what we don't want to start doing is we
Speaker:don't want to start creating a story that you suck at the thing that you
Speaker:want to do. We want to give you something that is in a
Speaker:complete other sphere where you get to practice
Speaker:just being bad at something.
Speaker:If you listen to, like, one or two episodes of the Weenie cast, I bet
Speaker:you know that I know nothing about this. Sports. Half the time I start a
Speaker:metaphor that involves sports, and then I get confused halfway through. And then Neil has
Speaker:to go back and edit it so it sounds smart. It might surprise you to
Speaker:find out that I actually played tennis when I was a kid. And when I
Speaker:was in high school, I was not popular on my
Speaker:own tennis team because I didn't play to win. I didn't really care about
Speaker:the competition of it. I just played to have fun. And my tennis partner,
Speaker:Jackie Blut, got really, really frustrated with me, that
Speaker:I was trying to have fun with the other team and that I was being
Speaker:friendly with them. And I wasn't like out for blood, not my style. So anyway,
Speaker:so I quit the tennis team. I didn't really play. Gave up when I moved
Speaker:cross country to California. My tennis racket was actually stolen out of my car in
Speaker:Tucson, Arizona, which of course, like I could have
Speaker:absolutely replaced it. But you know, I wasn't good at tennis. So
Speaker:why, why? I don't even know why I brought a tennis racket in the first
Speaker:place. It's like, you know when you're traveling and you're like, oh, I'm going by
Speaker:car. Throw it in the car, I might want it. Yeah. So I
Speaker:recently decided that I wanted to get back into tennis and so I signed up
Speaker:for a one on one class. No, I'm not good. No, I don't remember a
Speaker:whole lot. I'm not terrible. But it's been this really incredible experience
Speaker:going and doing something that I would expect myself to be better at
Speaker:because 20 years ago I was somewhat good at it. God,
Speaker:I feel so old when I do math on when I how old I was
Speaker:in high school. That's so depressing. Sidebar.
Speaker:I went to this political event for the Massachusetts governor a few weeks ago
Speaker:and I walk into the event and I see one of the history teachers from
Speaker:my high school, Mister Dixon. And I was never in Mister Dixon's class, okay?
Speaker:So I'm not gonna bash him. I don't know his teaching style. He was never
Speaker:terrible to me. He was always super nice. He actually got me into rowing one
Speaker:summer, which was kind of fun. Great workout, by the way. Anyway,
Speaker:so I go up to him and I'm like, oh my God, mister Dixon, so
Speaker:great to see you. And he was like, oh my God, Katie, so great to
Speaker:see you too. And he's like, how old are you now? And I said, oh,
Speaker:I'm 36. And he's like, wow, you're so old.
Speaker:And I was just like, I'm old.
Speaker:That makes you ancient. So
Speaker:great. Anyway, how did I get there? Oh yeah, so anyway, the math on
Speaker:high school. Yeah. So 20 years ago I was somewhat good at tennis.
Speaker:Not good at anymore. But I'm on this mission to be bad
Speaker:at. I'm on this mission to put myself in
Speaker:situations where I am going to
Speaker:fail in another way. I have signed up to take french lessons
Speaker:again. I was a french major. I lived in France for half a year so
Speaker:that I can learn the language. I really immersed myself. I passed their fluency exams
Speaker:and then I never spoke it again for 15 years, which again makes me feel
Speaker:very old. I recently started taking these classes online through this program
Speaker:called Lingoda, which if you're looking to learn a language, I can't recommend them enough.
Speaker:I wonder if I should sign up for a referral code if I'm sending you
Speaker:all to go there anyway. If you want to go to weeniecast.com
Speaker:lingoda, I'll link it there because it is such a great resource if
Speaker:you're looking to learn a new language or brush up on a language that used
Speaker:to speak a long time ago. One of the things that I really, really
Speaker:liked about how they onboard you is that first lesson that you're signed up
Speaker:for is an orientation. And in the orientation they
Speaker:like, make it the purpose to make
Speaker:errors, to make mistakes, right? Because it's really
Speaker:the only way that you learn a language is by saying something,
Speaker:thinking it's gonna make sense. Hearing someone say, I don't really know what
Speaker:you're talking about, or I think you're saying this, is that right? And
Speaker:then teasing it out with them until you figure out the exact right way to
Speaker:say the thing that you want to say. Could you imagine trying to learn a
Speaker:language and then getting all freaked out every single time that you make a
Speaker:mistake? And I know a lot of people try to learn a language and they
Speaker:get all freaked out about making mistakes. And yeah, you
Speaker:look stupid, like you probably say some stupid,
Speaker:but there's really like, you said stupid shit when you were a baby. Also, you
Speaker:said stupid things when you were a toddler, when you were learning your native tongue,
Speaker:right? And it wasn't that you were stupid or trying to be funny, it was
Speaker:that you genuinely were just misunderstanding how to use your own language.
Speaker:When I lived in France, I was in this immersive school that
Speaker:basically you had 5 hours of french lessons in the morning into the early afternoon,
Speaker:and then they would release you and you could go on all these excursions and
Speaker:you could live with a french family if you wanted or in like a student
Speaker:apartment. And I was in class with this australian woman.
Speaker:She and her husband had just moved to France and she was a nurse. She
Speaker:was like passing all of her licensing, getting all of her licenses so that she
Speaker:could be a nurse in France because they, you know, wanted to live there. And
Speaker:I remember we're in this class and the teacher asked us to explain
Speaker:what our dream for our future was. And we were going
Speaker:around the table and her thing was like, she's like, I want to
Speaker:go and I want to nurse the whole world. But she translated
Speaker:wrong and what she actually said is, I want to go breastfeed
Speaker:the whole world. And the teacher was
Speaker:like, I don't know if that's what you want to. And I was, of
Speaker:course, next. Cause we're sitting next to each other, so we're laughing and we're just
Speaker:dying. And she's like, no, no, no. I don't wanna breastfeed anyone. It's fine.
Speaker:Like, I want to heal people. And then I was like, yeah, I wanna go,
Speaker:and I wanna have a lot of adventures around the world. And I used
Speaker:the word Les Avantur, which I thought meant adventures, just like
Speaker:in English. It doesn't. It doesn't. It means a lot of sexual
Speaker:encounters, which I just announced this to the whole class,
Speaker:and the teacher looked at me, she's like, this is what it means. Like,
Speaker:no judgment. No judgment if that's what you want. But, like, I don't think that's
Speaker:what you meant. I was like, no, that's not what I meant. I meant adventures,
Speaker:like, do cool, go and see exciting
Speaker:things and have interesting stories. And she helped me figure it
Speaker:out. Throwing myself back into learning French again
Speaker:and throwing myself back into tennis again
Speaker:has really been eye opening for me, because I think one of
Speaker:the things that helped me be so successful so quickly in my business early on
Speaker:is that I was fully down to fail. I was used to
Speaker:failing. I was all about it. Fail fast, fail
Speaker:forward all that jazz. And over time, I've
Speaker:moved away from it, because, like, once you start your business and you get
Speaker:good at it, you're just kind of used to being good at everything, you know?
Speaker:And I realize that there are a few things that I'm going to be doing
Speaker:in the next year that I'm probably going to be bad at. You know,
Speaker:there are a few business schools that I have that I've, like, never done before
Speaker:and things that are way outside my comfort zone and, like, has
Speaker:massive opportunity for failure. And I realized that I was
Speaker:never going to be able to go and do those things if I didn't build
Speaker:my resilience to failure back up to where it used to be.
Speaker:So I urge you, if
Speaker:you're thinking about starting a business, or if you're in the process of starting a
Speaker:business, or if you're in the process of scaling a business and
Speaker:there's opportunity for failure and you're afraid of it,
Speaker:which is pretty much everyone in the world except for sociopaths. So if you're afraid
Speaker:of it, congratulations, you're not a sociopath. I invite you
Speaker:to go and be at something. Pick something. Go
Speaker:actively be bad at it. Practice being bad.
Speaker:It's going to be absolutely life changing for you. And over time,
Speaker:when you really commit, you'll actually get good at it. Well, that's what I'm telling
Speaker:myself with tennis. Well, it still remains to be seen, but I'm
Speaker:getting better at French, in case you were wondering. Now, the next thing you want
Speaker:to be very conscious of as you're actively being bad at stuff
Speaker:is, what am I going to say next? Well, you'll have to keep listening to
Speaker:find out. But first, squirrel, squirrel, squirrel, squirrel, squirrel.
Speaker:Now, the next thing you want to be very conscious of as you're
Speaker:actively being bad at stuff is correction, not punishment.
Speaker:So in french classes, when I say something wrong, the teacher corrects me,
Speaker:and when I say something wrong, I try to correct myself. I look
Speaker:for the correction. I'm not, like, determined to always
Speaker:be perfect, right? Because that's not going to help anyone. If my friend, who
Speaker:was determined to be correct with her phrase saying that she wanted to breastfeed the
Speaker:whole world, could you imagine the conversation she'd have later in her
Speaker:career? Like, she'd probably be fired from the hospital that she got a job
Speaker:at? They'd probably be like, I'm sorry, like, you can't do that with patients. And
Speaker:she'd be like, what do you mean? I can't nurse people? And they'd be like,
Speaker:no, it's so weird. Get out of here. Thinking she was planning
Speaker:on going up to patients and trying to BReastfeed them in tennis. So there
Speaker:was one day where I went, and I was, like, practicing tennis on my own,
Speaker:and. And how do you do this, you might ask? Well, there's machines that I'm
Speaker:sure you've seen in movies that basically have, like, a whole bunch of balls on
Speaker:top, and they shoot a ball out at you and you're supposed to just hit
Speaker:it. And the point is to work on, like, one swing at a time.
Speaker:And so I rented a court, and I rented this machine,
Speaker:and I go to my little tennis club that I'm a member of,
Speaker:and I was the only one on these three courts, right? So
Speaker:I'm the only one. I'm the center of attention. There's a wall where
Speaker:all the treadmills line up, and there's a window. So everyone who's on a treadmill
Speaker:up on the second floor of this gym is looking out, watching me,
Speaker:because I'm the entertainment. It's a tennis club, so people like watching tennis.
Speaker:The first round the first 20 minutes, I was so
Speaker:angry, I was missing, like, the ball was hitting the same spot on the court
Speaker:over and over and over again, and I kept missing it. And every time I'd
Speaker:miss it, I'd be like, oh, my God, you suck. What's wrong with you? That's
Speaker:terrible. Oh, my God. That's awful. What are you doing? You
Speaker:know, I started just getting really tight and frustrated and angry with
Speaker:myself, and eventually the machine ran out of
Speaker:balls. And so I went around with that stupid tube that you go around just,
Speaker:like, popping the balls inside and
Speaker:just being so angry with myself. And I realized, oh, my God.
Speaker:Me being angry with myself for doing this badly isn't
Speaker:helping. There's nothing about this process that's actually
Speaker:helping me get better. It's actually making me worse. I was hitting more balls in
Speaker:the beginning than I was at the end. And so as I'm collecting all the
Speaker:balls and putting them back in the machine, I made a deal with myself. It's
Speaker:like, okay, like, let's correct me rather than punish me.
Speaker:And so I filled up the machine again. I went back to the other
Speaker:side of the court. I hit the little remote control button, and I hit the
Speaker:first ball, and it was too long. And I just said, oh, too long to
Speaker:myself, you know, no one's around. And then I hit the next ball, and it
Speaker:was to the left. It went outside the court, oh, too far to the left,
Speaker:you know? And then I hit the next ball, and it was too far to
Speaker:the right. And then I hit the next ball, and I hit the net, and
Speaker:then I missed the next ball, and it's like, oh, you swung too late. Oh,
Speaker:this is the thing that you did wrong. Like, here's the action that you can
Speaker:make better. And what was miraculous, and actually, it's not
Speaker:miraculous, it makes perfect sense, was by the end of that next
Speaker:20 minutes session of the machine shooting balls at me. I was
Speaker:hitting every single ball by the end, and I was hitting
Speaker:balls most of the time where I wanted it to go, in the other
Speaker:side of the court. Side note, I should have switched hands. I
Speaker:couldn't use my right arm for about two days afterwards because
Speaker:it's not normal in tennis that you just spend, like, 40 minutes straight just hitting
Speaker:with one arm the exact same swing. So next time, I will go
Speaker:back and forth. But I'm so glad I learned this lesson, because it really helped
Speaker:me understand how I learned best and helped
Speaker:me coach my clients on how to be good at failing in
Speaker:a way that they learned from it. And don't just create a story that they
Speaker:suck at everything. So I urge you, like, as you're being bad at
Speaker:stuff, correct yourself. Don't punish yourself.
Speaker:The final thing that I want to offer, as you're working on
Speaker:your perfectionism, as you are leaning into
Speaker:failing, because so many of us have this
Speaker:idea of how perfect looks like, but it's also just not like a
Speaker:firm idea. I'm in the midst of redoing my website right now, and
Speaker:actually, this is one of those moments where I'm like, oh, my God, I need
Speaker:to be taking my own advice because I'm designing it
Speaker:and I'm realizing, like, oh, my God, it's not exactly how I want it, but
Speaker:how I want it is just perfect. There's no specific
Speaker:idea I have of what perfect looks like. The mentality
Speaker:we want to adopt when we're in the middle of a project that's actually going
Speaker:to impact our business is we want to look at what would half ass
Speaker:look like. Because oftentimes half assed is more
Speaker:than enough. Half assed is done,
Speaker:whereas waiting for perfect is never done. Because perfect
Speaker:is a moving target. Perfect will never happen. One of
Speaker:the great questions that artists get asked is, when do you know that your painting
Speaker:is finished and a lot of them can't tell you. A lot of them are
Speaker:like, eh, like, eh. You just kind of like, you know,
Speaker:have to be okay with it. And the cool thing about doing something half
Speaker:assed is that you get to be with it for a while and you get
Speaker:to see, okay, cool. What do I want to correct here? What do I want
Speaker:to correct? Instead of punishing yourself for not being perfect, for instance,
Speaker:with my website, I could say, oh, you know, I don't really like how this
Speaker:drop down menu goes. Maybe I should change it the next time I
Speaker:redo my website. I can do this, this, and this differently, but in the
Speaker:meantime, I still have a website to send to people. I still have a place
Speaker:for people to discover me and to find out more about me and to hopefully
Speaker:scare some people away who aren't my ideal clients.
Speaker:And I would like to just say something to the family members of
Speaker:my listeners, those of you who may have adhd also or who are
Speaker:neurotypical. I just want to apologize in advance for
Speaker:all the hobbies that are about to come into your house that
Speaker:your loved one who listens to this podcast is about to take
Speaker:on, who is about to be really bad at who's going to get
Speaker:frustrated with it. Yeah, my heart goes out to you. I hope you
Speaker:understand this is for the greater good. You're a loved one. Learning to
Speaker:be bad at stuff and maybe developing some more hyper
Speaker:focuses and getting more hobby
Speaker:supplies and things like that will make them better
Speaker:able to start a business in the future, which hopefully makes them super rich. And
Speaker:then you can retire. Right? And you can just, like,
Speaker:be taken care of. Hopefully. If it doesn't work out that way,
Speaker:not my problem. I'm sorry. I invite you. If you're committed to being bad at
Speaker:something, I would love to hear what you're committed to being bad at. If you
Speaker:want to get in touch with me on the socials, you can find me on
Speaker:Instagram at Katie the coach
Speaker:or on TikTok at Katie
Speaker:KDHD. You see what I did
Speaker:there? Or if you're listening to this on Spotify, then you can go
Speaker:ahead and leave a comment for us. And I can't wait to see it.
Speaker:Oui, je enfin frapper la putin bal quin's
Speaker:amouritevere. Ha. Squirrel,
Speaker:squirrel, squirrel, squirrel.