1 00:00:00,630 --> 00:00:06,120 You're listening to gift biz unwrapped episode 151 money is an 2 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:06,960 exchange of energy. 3 00:00:07,170 --> 00:00:09,930 You provide a service and you give energy and money as 4 00:00:09,930 --> 00:00:12,710 an energy back Attention. 5 00:00:12,740 --> 00:00:13,910 Gifters bakers, 6 00:00:13,910 --> 00:00:17,390 crafters, and makers pursuing your dream can be fun. 7 00:00:17,450 --> 00:00:20,900 Whether you have an established business or looking to start one. 8 00:00:20,900 --> 00:00:23,570 Now you are in the right place. 9 00:00:23,750 --> 00:00:26,180 This is gift biz unwrapped, 10 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,930 helping you turn your skill into a flourishing business. 11 00:00:30,260 --> 00:00:31,610 Join us for an episode, 12 00:00:31,610 --> 00:00:33,830 packed full of invaluable guidance, 13 00:00:33,950 --> 00:00:37,490 resources, and the support you need to grow your gift. 14 00:00:37,490 --> 00:00:40,700 This here is your host gift biz gal, 15 00:00:40,820 --> 00:00:42,020 Sue Mon height. 16 00:00:43,130 --> 00:00:43,490 Hey there, 17 00:00:43,550 --> 00:00:46,430 it's Sue and thank you so much for joining me today 18 00:00:46,670 --> 00:00:47,870 before we get started. 19 00:00:47,900 --> 00:00:50,390 I want to make mention of something that I don't think 20 00:00:50,480 --> 00:00:53,060 I've ever talked about before on the show. 21 00:00:53,270 --> 00:00:54,020 And that is, 22 00:00:54,020 --> 00:00:58,250 I want to direct you over to my Instagram account at 23 00:00:58,310 --> 00:00:59,840 gift biz gal. 24 00:01:00,380 --> 00:01:01,190 Each day, 25 00:01:01,220 --> 00:01:05,870 I represent a quote or some type of important nugget that 26 00:01:05,870 --> 00:01:09,770 a guest for the current week's show has brought up in 27 00:01:09,770 --> 00:01:10,670 the podcast. 28 00:01:10,820 --> 00:01:11,900 It's a business tip, 29 00:01:11,930 --> 00:01:16,130 that's come up and it's a bite-size piece of relevant information 30 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:20,120 that will be useful for your business and possibly even right 31 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,120 in time for something that you're encountering that day, 32 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,000 the Instagram image has the quote. 33 00:01:26,060 --> 00:01:27,890 And then I expand upon it. 34 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,140 In the post note section, 35 00:01:30,590 --> 00:01:33,440 I invite you to go over and check out that account 36 00:01:33,590 --> 00:01:36,830 for more useful information for your business. 37 00:01:37,070 --> 00:01:39,530 And now let's get onto the show today. 38 00:01:39,530 --> 00:01:42,650 I am thrilled to introduce you to Jill Fleming. 39 00:01:42,890 --> 00:01:47,360 Jill is a sought after speaker best-selling author and trusted advisor 40 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,540 while living on a cattle ranch in a tiny town, 41 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:52,190 somewhere in the middle of nowhere, 42 00:01:52,190 --> 00:01:55,550 Nebraska, Jill didn't have the luxury of calling for help when 43 00:01:55,550 --> 00:01:56,930 something didn't work. 44 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,650 Instead, she learned to tap into her intuition so she could 45 00:02:00,650 --> 00:02:04,220 rapidly create solutions and get right back to business. 46 00:02:04,550 --> 00:02:07,340 That explains why she has such a keen eye for seeing 47 00:02:07,370 --> 00:02:10,820 things from a different perspective and is especially gifted at helping 48 00:02:10,820 --> 00:02:14,840 her clients uncover the next best steps to take in order 49 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:18,920 to create their lives at their highest potential as an intuitive 50 00:02:18,920 --> 00:02:21,680 business strategist and facilitator of freedom, 51 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:22,490 Jill guides, 52 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,080 entrepreneurs, and professionals, 53 00:02:24,110 --> 00:02:29,120 through the process of clarifying their vision and creating step-by-step fulfillment 54 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:33,800 plans. So they can live their best life starting now. 55 00:02:34,220 --> 00:02:34,880 Oh my gosh. 56 00:02:34,910 --> 00:02:38,540 I love just the action that's involved with that last sentence. 57 00:02:38,540 --> 00:02:40,250 And we are going to start now with you, 58 00:02:40,250 --> 00:02:42,140 Jill. Thank you for coming on the show. 59 00:02:42,500 --> 00:02:43,940 Oh, thank you so much for having me. 60 00:02:44,270 --> 00:02:47,660 We're going to start off in what is probably an untraditional 61 00:02:47,660 --> 00:02:50,210 way for you and you've had interviews before, 62 00:02:50,390 --> 00:02:53,450 and that is by having you describe yourself through a motivational 63 00:02:53,450 --> 00:02:56,840 candle. So if you were to tell us a color that 64 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,310 really resonates with you and a quote or type of saying 65 00:03:00,340 --> 00:03:03,550 that you live by tell us what your motivational candle would 66 00:03:03,550 --> 00:03:04,740 be. Look like I say, 67 00:03:04,740 --> 00:03:08,850 my motivational candle would be purple and it's purple for wisdom. 68 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,700 As I feel like in this life I gained and always 69 00:03:11,700 --> 00:03:15,660 love soaking up lots of wisdom and the quote that I 70 00:03:15,690 --> 00:03:19,500 always go back to is whether you think you can, 71 00:03:19,530 --> 00:03:21,600 or you think you can't you're right. 72 00:03:21,870 --> 00:03:23,640 And that's by Henry Ford. 73 00:03:23,640 --> 00:03:24,300 Oh my gosh. 74 00:03:24,300 --> 00:03:25,470 It's all about mindset. 75 00:03:25,470 --> 00:03:26,190 Isn't it? 76 00:03:26,190 --> 00:03:26,610 It is. 77 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,270 It is amazing how people can get in their way just 78 00:03:30,270 --> 00:03:32,160 by thinking negative. 79 00:03:32,190 --> 00:03:33,960 Like it can't be me or it can't happen to me. 80 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:34,890 It's always somebody else, 81 00:03:34,890 --> 00:03:35,850 but it could never be me. 82 00:03:36,530 --> 00:03:37,530 Right? Absolutely. 83 00:03:37,620 --> 00:03:39,120 And if that's your thought process, 84 00:03:39,180 --> 00:03:40,290 then guess what you get to be, 85 00:03:40,290 --> 00:03:42,630 right? That's when I'm working with my clients, 86 00:03:42,630 --> 00:03:43,470 if that's what they think, 87 00:03:43,470 --> 00:03:43,770 I'm like, 88 00:03:43,770 --> 00:03:47,130 well, you can either choose to change that and choose to 89 00:03:47,220 --> 00:03:50,460 think differently and put that as a process for yourself, 90 00:03:50,460 --> 00:03:51,150 or guess what? 91 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:55,530 You can be negative and you can be pessimistic and the 92 00:03:55,530 --> 00:03:57,510 universe or whatever you want to call it. 93 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:58,920 It gives you what you ask for. 94 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:00,540 And if that's what you're thinking about it, 95 00:04:00,540 --> 00:04:01,290 that's what you get. 96 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:02,670 Yeah. And you know, 97 00:04:02,670 --> 00:04:03,870 the good thing for us though, 98 00:04:03,870 --> 00:04:07,230 really about being an entrepreneur is we are in charge of 99 00:04:07,230 --> 00:04:07,950 our destiny. 100 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:09,900 I look at myself in the mirror in the morning and 101 00:04:09,900 --> 00:04:11,460 say, you're in charge of whether you're going to be a 102 00:04:11,460 --> 00:04:12,330 success today, 103 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,220 or you have things you need to change. 104 00:04:14,220 --> 00:04:15,270 It is all up to you. 105 00:04:15,540 --> 00:04:17,760 No matter what things get thrown in front of you, 106 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,920 you still are the one to decide how to deal with 107 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:21,210 them. Absolutely. 108 00:04:21,210 --> 00:04:23,220 And that's the biggest thing is I was working with a 109 00:04:23,220 --> 00:04:27,420 client recently and he was stressed out and I told him, 110 00:04:27,420 --> 00:04:27,720 I was like, 111 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:29,310 you're choosing to be stressed out. 112 00:04:29,430 --> 00:04:29,730 He's like, 113 00:04:29,730 --> 00:04:30,900 no, these things are happening. 114 00:04:30,930 --> 00:04:31,380 I was like, 115 00:04:31,740 --> 00:04:33,690 you are choosing how to react to them. 116 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,110 Right. You can't change the fact that it happened. 117 00:04:37,500 --> 00:04:39,690 The only thing you can change is how you react to 118 00:04:39,690 --> 00:04:41,820 it and then how you choose to move forward. 119 00:04:41,820 --> 00:04:44,430 So you can do that in a stressful manner or you 120 00:04:44,430 --> 00:04:44,940 can be like, 121 00:04:44,970 --> 00:04:45,990 okay, this happened, 122 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:47,670 okay, what am I going to choose now? 123 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:49,290 Or what do I need to do to fix this? 124 00:04:49,290 --> 00:04:50,490 Or what can I do to shift this? 125 00:04:50,490 --> 00:04:53,520 Right. I agree With you entirely. 126 00:04:53,790 --> 00:04:57,330 So I want to go back to when you were growing 127 00:04:57,330 --> 00:04:59,580 up. And the reason I want to do that, 128 00:04:59,580 --> 00:05:01,650 Jill is I think that we do have a lot of 129 00:05:01,650 --> 00:05:05,790 listeners who aren't from New York or Los Angeles or these 130 00:05:05,790 --> 00:05:06,690 big cities. 131 00:05:06,690 --> 00:05:09,420 And I think there's a tendency to think that they have 132 00:05:09,420 --> 00:05:13,290 some type of an advantage over everybody else just by sheer 133 00:05:12,330 --> 00:05:15,120 population. And I disagree with that. 134 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:16,740 And you're a perfect example. 135 00:05:16,740 --> 00:05:18,780 So will you take us back a little bit and share 136 00:05:18,870 --> 00:05:20,730 how things were in your head Hometown? 137 00:05:21,150 --> 00:05:22,680 So back when I was growing up, 138 00:05:22,710 --> 00:05:24,600 we didn't have the power of the internet. 139 00:05:24,870 --> 00:05:27,270 And so there was a little bit more of a challenge 140 00:05:27,300 --> 00:05:28,950 of reaching more clients, 141 00:05:28,950 --> 00:05:30,090 reaching more customers, 142 00:05:30,090 --> 00:05:32,580 those kinds of things with the power of the internet. 143 00:05:32,580 --> 00:05:35,610 Now you have just as great of advantage being in New 144 00:05:35,610 --> 00:05:36,060 York city, 145 00:05:36,060 --> 00:05:38,010 as you do in my hometown, 146 00:05:38,010 --> 00:05:40,770 which is Valentine Nebraska in a small town, 147 00:05:40,770 --> 00:05:42,450 right? It was small. 148 00:05:42,450 --> 00:05:44,400 Valentine is about 2,500 149 00:05:44,700 --> 00:05:48,510 people. It's the only incorporated town in the County of cherry 150 00:05:48,510 --> 00:05:52,620 County, Nebraska and cherry County is bigger than the state of 151 00:05:52,950 --> 00:05:53,490 Rhode Island. 152 00:05:53,490 --> 00:05:56,370 So it's still three hours to drive to the nearest Walmart 153 00:05:56,370 --> 00:05:58,280 where I grew up and where my family still lives. 154 00:05:58,730 --> 00:05:59,930 That's crazy. 155 00:06:01,250 --> 00:06:02,450 It's so interesting. 156 00:06:02,450 --> 00:06:05,810 But tell us how you decided to go from there. 157 00:06:05,810 --> 00:06:06,140 I mean, 158 00:06:06,140 --> 00:06:07,760 college got you out of the town, 159 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,520 right? But give us a little bit of that evolution. 160 00:06:10,810 --> 00:06:13,000 So I'm actually the first person in my family to graduate 161 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:14,200 from a four-year college. 162 00:06:14,500 --> 00:06:17,380 And I was following the process, 163 00:06:17,410 --> 00:06:19,090 right. Of you go to college, 164 00:06:19,090 --> 00:06:20,350 you get a great job, 165 00:06:20,590 --> 00:06:21,820 you get engaged, 166 00:06:21,850 --> 00:06:22,570 you get married, 167 00:06:22,570 --> 00:06:23,350 you have 2.5 168 00:06:23,350 --> 00:06:26,770 kids. Like I was following that process of like that societal 169 00:06:26,770 --> 00:06:28,690 programming of what we're supposed to do. 170 00:06:29,050 --> 00:06:31,720 And it was funny cause I completed college in about three 171 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,020 and a half years and then got a great job working 172 00:06:35,020 --> 00:06:37,480 for a fortune 500 company in Des Moines, 173 00:06:37,510 --> 00:06:40,510 Iowa and moved there and started doing that. 174 00:06:40,540 --> 00:06:43,300 I had a guy and we got engaged and bought a 175 00:06:43,300 --> 00:06:47,080 house. And I got there at the pinnacle of what we're 176 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,410 supposed to reach by like age 25. 177 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:52,240 And I got there and I was like, 178 00:06:52,750 --> 00:06:53,380 this is it. 179 00:06:53,410 --> 00:06:55,120 Like, I thought this was supposed to be like, 180 00:06:55,150 --> 00:06:57,850 the angels are supposed to come out and everything's supposed to 181 00:06:57,850 --> 00:06:58,150 be like, 182 00:06:58,210 --> 00:07:01,620 Oh, I made it. 183 00:07:02,260 --> 00:07:05,380 And I got there and I just wasn't happy. 184 00:07:05,380 --> 00:07:05,800 And I was like, 185 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:07,030 okay, what is this? 186 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,190 I ended up calling off the engagement, 187 00:07:09,430 --> 00:07:10,630 selling the house. 188 00:07:10,690 --> 00:07:13,150 I stayed working at my corporate job a while longer, 189 00:07:13,330 --> 00:07:16,690 but at the time I was doing photography on the side. 190 00:07:17,020 --> 00:07:20,050 And as I started to build that side business while I 191 00:07:20,050 --> 00:07:21,700 was still working my corporate job, 192 00:07:21,970 --> 00:07:25,240 that was what kept me saying I was absolutely miserable at 193 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,480 my corporate job and continued to do more and more photography 194 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,810 and teach myself more and more skills through going to workshops 195 00:07:31,810 --> 00:07:34,090 and trainings and finding all of the mentors. 196 00:07:34,420 --> 00:07:35,890 And I got to, 197 00:07:35,890 --> 00:07:36,460 it was funny. 198 00:07:36,460 --> 00:07:38,890 I got to age 30 and I was sitting at my 199 00:07:38,890 --> 00:07:43,030 desk one day and I had the thought that if I'm 200 00:07:43,030 --> 00:07:43,570 sitting here, 201 00:07:43,570 --> 00:07:44,410 when I'm 40, 202 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:45,940 I'm going to want to shoot myself. 203 00:07:46,390 --> 00:07:47,830 That was a pretty heavy thought. 204 00:07:47,830 --> 00:07:51,190 And it really made me like stop and take note and 205 00:07:51,190 --> 00:07:52,360 really look at that of like, 206 00:07:52,390 --> 00:07:54,880 Whoa, I really need to do something different. 207 00:07:55,420 --> 00:07:58,090 So you would just built up and you'd had this feeling, 208 00:07:58,090 --> 00:07:59,350 but in side, 209 00:07:59,350 --> 00:08:01,120 you already that this just wasn't enough. 210 00:08:01,390 --> 00:08:04,060 And then it became that moment at your desk where you're 211 00:08:04,060 --> 00:08:06,100 like realization hits. 212 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:07,390 I've got to change it. 213 00:08:07,990 --> 00:08:12,010 Yes. And that was when the fear set in of I 214 00:08:12,010 --> 00:08:13,810 was doing what I was supposed to be doing. 215 00:08:13,810 --> 00:08:14,980 Right. Of what we're told, 216 00:08:14,980 --> 00:08:15,970 we're supposed to do, 217 00:08:16,300 --> 00:08:17,050 go to college, 218 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:18,070 get a good job. 219 00:08:18,370 --> 00:08:21,100 And I was working for a fortune 500 company, 220 00:08:21,100 --> 00:08:24,280 like one of the top companies in the country and had 221 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,410 great benefits and a pretty decent pay. 222 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,450 But I was just absolutely miserable. 223 00:08:28,930 --> 00:08:32,500 And it was funny when I made the decision to go 224 00:08:32,530 --> 00:08:33,880 full-time photography. 225 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,370 It was after a fund of mine who I consider him, 226 00:08:36,370 --> 00:08:37,180 my first coach, 227 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,310 he kind of gave me that Swift kick in the butt 228 00:08:39,310 --> 00:08:40,870 I needed of he's like, 229 00:08:40,870 --> 00:08:41,860 why don't you do it? 230 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:42,760 And I was like, 231 00:08:42,790 --> 00:08:44,530 I'm scared I will fail. 232 00:08:44,860 --> 00:08:45,520 And he's like, 233 00:08:45,580 --> 00:08:47,830 okay, so you fail then what? 234 00:08:48,190 --> 00:08:52,000 It was really interesting that nobody had ever asked me then 235 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:53,260 what? Right. 236 00:08:53,260 --> 00:08:56,190 It's like usually fear of failure is such this big, 237 00:08:56,340 --> 00:08:59,370 scary thing that we're so scared to even look at of 238 00:08:59,370 --> 00:09:01,470 happening that we just don't even want to look at it. 239 00:09:01,470 --> 00:09:01,920 And it was like, 240 00:09:01,950 --> 00:09:02,670 Oh, then what? 241 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:03,480 He's like, 242 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,970 what is the absolute worst case scenario? 243 00:09:06,540 --> 00:09:08,010 So you take this leap of faith. 244 00:09:08,010 --> 00:09:10,350 You go full-time with your photography business. 245 00:09:10,590 --> 00:09:12,390 What is the absolute worst case scenario? 246 00:09:12,390 --> 00:09:15,060 And my answer was I could fail and he's like, 247 00:09:15,060 --> 00:09:16,560 okay, so you fail then what? 248 00:09:17,460 --> 00:09:18,030 And I was like, 249 00:09:18,060 --> 00:09:19,710 Oh, there's an after. 250 00:09:19,830 --> 00:09:20,700 Because usually it's like, 251 00:09:20,730 --> 00:09:23,760 Oh, that's the end life will not continue to go on. 252 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:24,450 And he's like, 253 00:09:24,450 --> 00:09:25,020 if you fail, 254 00:09:25,020 --> 00:09:26,190 will they take away your birthday? 255 00:09:26,190 --> 00:09:26,760 And I'm like, 256 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:27,460 well, no, 257 00:09:28,690 --> 00:09:29,540 That's cute. 258 00:09:30,050 --> 00:09:31,160 Right. Well, 259 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,860 and I think that we also should define fail because you 260 00:09:33,860 --> 00:09:35,750 fail means your whole business. 261 00:09:35,750 --> 00:09:36,620 Isn't working. 262 00:09:36,830 --> 00:09:39,710 Maybe just something that you're doing as you're getting up and 263 00:09:39,710 --> 00:09:42,890 getting started and getting the first client isn't the right way 264 00:09:42,890 --> 00:09:43,460 to do it. 265 00:09:43,700 --> 00:09:45,500 So you might be failing. 266 00:09:45,500 --> 00:09:46,670 I hate to use those words, 267 00:09:46,670 --> 00:09:48,920 but at just the way you're trying to capture clients, 268 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:49,190 it's not, 269 00:09:49,190 --> 00:09:51,380 you're failing at your whole photography business. 270 00:09:52,010 --> 00:09:53,060 Right. Well, 271 00:09:53,060 --> 00:09:55,790 and since then I have done a lot of personal development 272 00:09:55,790 --> 00:09:56,720 and leadership work. 273 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:58,610 And I now turn failure. 274 00:09:58,670 --> 00:10:00,920 Like I don't even see anything as failure. 275 00:10:00,980 --> 00:10:02,120 It's only a failure. 276 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,300 If you didn't learn something and you always learn something from 277 00:10:05,390 --> 00:10:07,790 mistakes that happen or things that happen, 278 00:10:07,790 --> 00:10:09,020 you always learn something. 279 00:10:09,380 --> 00:10:10,820 Yeah. Or it's a failure. 280 00:10:10,820 --> 00:10:12,200 If you allow that to stop you. 281 00:10:12,470 --> 00:10:13,100 But then again, 282 00:10:13,100 --> 00:10:15,710 you've been in control and you've allowed that to happen. 283 00:10:16,070 --> 00:10:18,800 Jill, I'd be curious about how you'd feel about this. 284 00:10:18,830 --> 00:10:22,010 If your friend was not a major supporter for you at 285 00:10:22,010 --> 00:10:22,730 that time, 286 00:10:23,420 --> 00:10:24,980 do you think you would've made a change? 287 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,950 Absolutely. It would have just taken me longer. 288 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,470 Okay. It would have happened. 289 00:10:30,590 --> 00:10:34,220 It would've just taken me longer of getting there myself. 290 00:10:34,580 --> 00:10:36,770 I consider him my first coach. 291 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,740 That's why I love doing coaching now is just helping people 292 00:10:39,770 --> 00:10:44,030 get there faster and be able to see the possibilities quicker 293 00:10:44,180 --> 00:10:45,290 than on their own, 294 00:10:45,350 --> 00:10:47,210 especially from somebody who's already been there. 295 00:10:47,390 --> 00:10:49,970 So he had been in business for himself for over five 296 00:10:49,970 --> 00:10:52,880 years. So he had already walked that path and he knew 297 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:54,500 what I then did not know. 298 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,710 And that's one of the reasons I love coaching too, 299 00:10:57,710 --> 00:11:00,590 is I know now things that people that are starting their 300 00:11:00,590 --> 00:11:02,330 business or a few years in business, 301 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,670 they haven't experienced yet so that it can be like, 302 00:11:04,670 --> 00:11:06,260 Hey, be prepared for this. 303 00:11:06,560 --> 00:11:08,120 And he said the same thing. 304 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,870 He's like be prepared that people aren't going to understand your 305 00:11:11,870 --> 00:11:14,090 choice. And that was another thing. 306 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,550 There's a book out there called the dream giver that I 307 00:11:16,550 --> 00:11:17,720 highly recommend. 308 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:19,370 And in that book, 309 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:23,360 it talks about leaving the land of familiar to go towards 310 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:23,960 your dream. 311 00:11:24,290 --> 00:11:26,510 And as you leave the land of familiar, 312 00:11:26,540 --> 00:11:30,410 you run into what they call border bullies and border bullies 313 00:11:30,410 --> 00:11:31,850 are often the people that, 314 00:11:31,850 --> 00:11:32,240 you know, 315 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:33,320 love and trust. 316 00:11:33,620 --> 00:11:36,230 And that often you feel like they have your best interest 317 00:11:36,230 --> 00:11:36,830 at heart, 318 00:11:37,100 --> 00:11:40,850 but oftentimes it's actually in their best interest to keep you 319 00:11:40,850 --> 00:11:44,120 in your land of familiar so that they can stay comfortable. 320 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:45,950 And they don't have to try to redefine you. 321 00:11:46,310 --> 00:11:48,320 Right. I've run into a few of those myself. 322 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:49,870 I know exactly what you're talking. 323 00:11:50,630 --> 00:11:54,070 And it was interesting that my mom was actually my biggest 324 00:11:54,070 --> 00:11:54,790 border bully. 325 00:11:55,180 --> 00:11:57,790 And every time that I would talk about leaving my corporate 326 00:11:57,790 --> 00:11:58,570 job, she's like, 327 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,130 well, you get paid great. 328 00:12:00,130 --> 00:12:02,950 You have amazing benefits for her. 329 00:12:02,980 --> 00:12:04,270 That was the Holy grail. 330 00:12:04,630 --> 00:12:05,410 But for me, 331 00:12:05,410 --> 00:12:06,340 I wasn't happy. 332 00:12:06,700 --> 00:12:09,310 And it was interesting when I finally got to that point, 333 00:12:09,610 --> 00:12:10,450 I told my mom, 334 00:12:10,450 --> 00:12:10,750 I'm like, 335 00:12:10,750 --> 00:12:12,190 Hey, I'm going to quit my corporate job. 336 00:12:12,190 --> 00:12:15,160 And I'm going to take my part-time photography business full time. 337 00:12:15,430 --> 00:12:15,940 She was like, 338 00:12:15,970 --> 00:12:16,480 Oh my gosh, 339 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:17,200 you can't do that. 340 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:17,830 And like, 341 00:12:18,070 --> 00:12:19,510 that's a really bad decision. 342 00:12:19,510 --> 00:12:20,470 That's a bad choice. 343 00:12:20,470 --> 00:12:20,950 And I was like, 344 00:12:20,950 --> 00:12:22,240 mom, I love you. 345 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,220 And I just need you to either get on board or 346 00:12:24,220 --> 00:12:24,820 be quiet. 347 00:12:25,420 --> 00:12:27,540 Can't almost fault that generation though, 348 00:12:27,540 --> 00:12:29,130 because that's what they knew. 349 00:12:29,220 --> 00:12:31,800 And that's what they always strive for that job and the 350 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,400 security and the insurance and all of that was security. 351 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,920 We all know that jobs aren't secure anymore. 352 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:42,060 Right. So you can't almost fault them for not totally understanding 353 00:12:42,090 --> 00:12:42,780 the view. 354 00:12:43,020 --> 00:12:46,950 Okay. So you're gel kind of a specialist on clarity. 355 00:12:47,010 --> 00:12:48,960 And as I listened to your story, 356 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,350 you got very clear that your corporate job wasn't going to 357 00:12:52,350 --> 00:12:54,090 be where you're going to be happy. 358 00:12:54,090 --> 00:12:57,150 So you branched up your photography business. 359 00:12:57,450 --> 00:12:59,130 And then at some point, 360 00:12:59,130 --> 00:13:01,920 I guess you became very clear that there was more, 361 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:03,300 you could offer the world too, 362 00:13:03,300 --> 00:13:05,280 because of what you're doing now, 363 00:13:05,730 --> 00:13:08,460 what would you say to somebody who's listening? 364 00:13:08,460 --> 00:13:08,910 Who's like, 365 00:13:08,970 --> 00:13:10,980 what does clarity even mean? 366 00:13:10,980 --> 00:13:14,160 And does it just come and show its face to me 367 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:14,580 one day? 368 00:13:14,580 --> 00:13:16,860 Or how does that all happen when you really have that 369 00:13:16,860 --> 00:13:18,600 confidence that you're going to make the changes? 370 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:23,460 I would say clarity comes when you get really focused in, 371 00:13:23,460 --> 00:13:24,510 on what you'd love. 372 00:13:24,930 --> 00:13:28,680 Because so often what happens is we spend our lives doing 373 00:13:28,680 --> 00:13:31,050 what other people think is in our best interest, 374 00:13:31,290 --> 00:13:34,290 as opposed to really dialing in and really tuning into our 375 00:13:34,290 --> 00:13:37,290 inner wisdom to figure out what is it that I would 376 00:13:37,290 --> 00:13:37,920 really love? 377 00:13:37,950 --> 00:13:39,270 Like what would bring me joy? 378 00:13:39,300 --> 00:13:40,560 What would bring me happiness? 379 00:13:40,560 --> 00:13:42,030 What would I love to do? 380 00:13:42,270 --> 00:13:44,370 And how would I like my life to look like? 381 00:13:44,700 --> 00:13:46,830 And I think that that clarity comes there. 382 00:13:46,830 --> 00:13:50,940 And a lot of times the biggest barrier to clarity is 383 00:13:50,940 --> 00:13:52,860 that we don't want to disappoint others. 384 00:13:53,220 --> 00:13:55,500 There's oftentimes we know what we know what we know. 385 00:13:55,710 --> 00:13:58,170 And that's what I love working with my clients about is 386 00:13:58,170 --> 00:14:00,030 often my clients know, 387 00:14:00,390 --> 00:14:00,780 they just, 388 00:14:00,780 --> 00:14:02,910 oftentimes aren't willing to choose it. 389 00:14:03,420 --> 00:14:06,390 And so I like being what I call a wing woman. 390 00:14:06,450 --> 00:14:08,850 So I like to fly with them so that I'm flying 391 00:14:08,850 --> 00:14:10,110 with you so that you're like, 392 00:14:10,110 --> 00:14:12,020 okay, we're going to fly around this Hill. 393 00:14:12,060 --> 00:14:13,470 We're going to Dodge this thing. 394 00:14:13,770 --> 00:14:17,700 And to be able to fly with someone as they're taking 395 00:14:17,700 --> 00:14:22,320 that journey into really leaving behind that old programming and that 396 00:14:22,340 --> 00:14:24,000 old, those old mindsets, 397 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:28,110 while they're stepping into and choosing what they really want in 398 00:14:28,110 --> 00:14:28,680 their life. 399 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,080 I love the concept of the wing woman. 400 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,690 That's perfect because although whoever your client is, 401 00:14:33,690 --> 00:14:34,740 who, whoever that person is, 402 00:14:34,740 --> 00:14:36,300 is front and center in the business, 403 00:14:36,330 --> 00:14:37,740 then they don't feel like they're allowed. 404 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,350 Which of course is what a lot of coaches will do. 405 00:14:40,740 --> 00:14:44,370 And so you focus on the clarity comes from really, 406 00:14:44,370 --> 00:14:46,950 really focusing on what you love. 407 00:14:47,250 --> 00:14:51,530 Do you think that people can turn anything that they into 408 00:14:51,530 --> 00:14:52,220 a business? 409 00:14:52,940 --> 00:14:53,840 I would say no. 410 00:14:54,380 --> 00:14:58,490 There still is a matter of what does the market desire. 411 00:14:58,910 --> 00:15:00,860 So something that you love, 412 00:15:01,460 --> 00:15:04,970 like there has to be a marketability for a business. 413 00:15:05,300 --> 00:15:08,180 There has to be a need that you're filling or desire 414 00:15:08,180 --> 00:15:08,990 that you're filling. 415 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,480 So I wouldn't say anything, 416 00:15:12,140 --> 00:15:15,020 but probably an offshoot of what you want. 417 00:15:15,410 --> 00:15:16,550 There's a possibility. 418 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:17,330 Does that make sense? 419 00:15:17,710 --> 00:15:20,350 Yeah. So maybe let's say someone tests, 420 00:15:20,380 --> 00:15:21,490 something that they love, 421 00:15:21,490 --> 00:15:24,220 let's call it a product or whatever it is, 422 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:25,390 and it doesn't work, 423 00:15:25,420 --> 00:15:27,640 maybe some adjustments or something. 424 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,010 So they're still in the vein of what they love. 425 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,440 It just presented to the market in a different way. 426 00:15:33,130 --> 00:15:34,120 Correct? Yeah. 427 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:35,800 And so that's where I would say, 428 00:15:35,950 --> 00:15:37,270 I wouldn't say anything, 429 00:15:37,420 --> 00:15:39,610 but oftentimes that thing that you love doing, 430 00:15:39,610 --> 00:15:41,890 if you modify it or you come at it from a 431 00:15:41,890 --> 00:15:44,800 different perspective or you market it in a different way, 432 00:15:44,860 --> 00:15:47,350 or you go out to your market or the people that 433 00:15:47,350 --> 00:15:50,650 you would love to serve and ask them what they desire 434 00:15:50,650 --> 00:15:52,930 or what is something in their life that they would really 435 00:15:53,020 --> 00:15:56,350 want to help them make their life easier or something that 436 00:15:56,350 --> 00:15:58,840 they would enjoy having or those kinds of things, 437 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,840 and find a market that you love to serve and then 438 00:16:02,140 --> 00:16:05,350 create products or create things that you love to do that 439 00:16:05,350 --> 00:16:06,370 serves that market. 440 00:16:06,910 --> 00:16:08,080 Perfect. Really smart. 441 00:16:08,260 --> 00:16:11,680 Okay. So you dive in to a topic that a lot 442 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:12,820 of us cringe at, 443 00:16:12,850 --> 00:16:14,590 and that is money. 444 00:16:15,250 --> 00:16:17,980 And when we talk about business, 445 00:16:18,010 --> 00:16:21,370 obviously people go into business to make money. 446 00:16:21,580 --> 00:16:24,970 I always tell people if that's your number one goal, 447 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:25,810 don't start. 448 00:16:25,810 --> 00:16:26,740 Cause you're going to fail. 449 00:16:26,770 --> 00:16:28,900 You've got to love what you're doing first. 450 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:30,880 And then the money comes afterwards. 451 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,420 But I know we all have the negative word that comes 452 00:16:34,420 --> 00:16:35,320 to mind is hanging up. 453 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,150 And that's not really what I mean to say, 454 00:16:37,150 --> 00:16:39,700 but we all have emotions wrapped around money. 455 00:16:39,700 --> 00:16:42,190 Maybe that's the better way for me to say that. 456 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,170 Talk to us a little bit about that. 457 00:16:44,170 --> 00:16:47,110 The blocks that come up and what do we do about 458 00:16:47,110 --> 00:16:49,450 this whole money topic? 459 00:16:49,900 --> 00:16:50,680 Oh yes. 460 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:54,520 Money. And that's the interesting thing is that money is really 461 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:55,300 just energy. 462 00:16:55,570 --> 00:16:56,980 Money is an exchange of energy. 463 00:16:56,980 --> 00:16:59,740 If you provide a service and you give energy and money 464 00:16:59,740 --> 00:17:00,940 as an energy back, 465 00:17:01,330 --> 00:17:05,500 and when you can get to that understanding is that money 466 00:17:05,500 --> 00:17:06,490 is just energy. 467 00:17:06,730 --> 00:17:09,790 It can allow to move past a lot of that programming. 468 00:17:09,790 --> 00:17:11,530 It's just getting to that point. 469 00:17:11,890 --> 00:17:14,530 And I think that you said that you had gone on 470 00:17:14,530 --> 00:17:17,980 to my website and did my sacred money archetypes assessment. 471 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:18,790 I did. 472 00:17:18,790 --> 00:17:20,080 And I want everyone to do it. 473 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,660 So why don't you mention that right now? 474 00:17:22,750 --> 00:17:24,520 And then we'll go through what you're talking about. 475 00:17:24,970 --> 00:17:26,410 If you go and sign up on my website, 476 00:17:26,410 --> 00:17:28,480 there's a free assessment you can take and it's called the 477 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:29,860 sacred money archetypes. 478 00:17:30,190 --> 00:17:31,540 And what's great about that. 479 00:17:31,540 --> 00:17:34,990 Is it kind of dials in who you are and more 480 00:17:34,990 --> 00:17:37,240 than likely where your struggles are with money. 481 00:17:37,540 --> 00:17:39,820 And then when you know where your struggles are with money 482 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,310 there's procedures and there's things that you can do to help 483 00:17:42,310 --> 00:17:43,300 overcome that, 484 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:44,140 to be like, 485 00:17:44,140 --> 00:17:47,320 totally move past your money blocks and like really start making 486 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:48,490 a profit in your business. 487 00:17:48,730 --> 00:17:51,240 I was Jill in the pre chat That it was such 488 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:52,500 a fun assessment to take. 489 00:17:52,500 --> 00:17:53,430 And it's free you guys. 490 00:17:53,430 --> 00:17:55,590 So just go ahead and go and do the assessment. 491 00:17:55,590 --> 00:17:57,090 I haven't done all of my analysis. 492 00:17:57,090 --> 00:17:58,530 We talked about that too, 493 00:17:58,530 --> 00:18:00,660 cause I wanted to do it before we got on and 494 00:18:00,660 --> 00:18:01,590 recorded this interview. 495 00:18:01,590 --> 00:18:02,970 So I had had the experience. 496 00:18:02,970 --> 00:18:04,680 So I could share that with all of you guys, 497 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:09,450 but it's a different type of quiz or assessment that you'd 498 00:18:09,450 --> 00:18:12,600 normally take just by structure and how it all comes together 499 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:13,290 at the end, 500 00:18:13,530 --> 00:18:15,870 super fun and a little bit different, 501 00:18:15,870 --> 00:18:17,610 which makes it really interesting. 502 00:18:17,610 --> 00:18:18,390 So again, 503 00:18:18,390 --> 00:18:21,450 I encourage everybody to go over and do that. 504 00:18:21,450 --> 00:18:24,210 And that's over on your website, 505 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,730 Jill, which is living beyond logic. 506 00:18:26,910 --> 00:18:28,620 So live and beyond logic.com. 507 00:18:28,830 --> 00:18:31,440 Okay. So let's get back into the money thing. 508 00:18:31,770 --> 00:18:32,550 This was a nice, 509 00:18:32,550 --> 00:18:35,910 like little path up into this major topic. 510 00:18:35,940 --> 00:18:38,250 Now let's really talk about money and fears. 511 00:18:38,250 --> 00:18:40,950 And the fact is you need to invest in your business 512 00:18:40,950 --> 00:18:44,730 too, but that's scary because that means you're giving away money 513 00:18:44,730 --> 00:18:46,590 with possibly no return, 514 00:18:47,270 --> 00:18:51,170 Right? And it's a matter of when you're starting your business 515 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,720 of what are you doing to make money. 516 00:18:54,020 --> 00:18:57,650 And oftentimes when there's money blocks, 517 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,560 we do all the other little things that we think we're 518 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,200 supposed to do instead of make money. 519 00:19:03,620 --> 00:19:05,000 That's kind of self-defeating, 520 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:05,390 isn't it. 521 00:19:05,390 --> 00:19:06,710 Because if you're not doing, 522 00:19:06,710 --> 00:19:07,550 I call them money, 523 00:19:07,550 --> 00:19:08,780 generating tasks. 524 00:19:08,930 --> 00:19:09,920 If you're not doing money, 525 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:10,940 generating tasks, 526 00:19:10,940 --> 00:19:12,140 you're not going to make money. 527 00:19:12,260 --> 00:19:13,850 Which was your fear in the first place. 528 00:19:14,570 --> 00:19:16,790 Yes. I call them revenue generating tasks. 529 00:19:16,790 --> 00:19:17,990 So we're pretty close. 530 00:19:18,260 --> 00:19:22,520 And what percentage of your day are you devoting to those 531 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:23,930 money? Generating tasks? 532 00:19:24,170 --> 00:19:26,870 Are you only devoting 10% of your day or are you 533 00:19:26,870 --> 00:19:31,160 devoting 80% of your day and to continue to focus on 534 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,910 what those revenue generating tasks are that bring money into your 535 00:19:34,910 --> 00:19:36,560 business as opposed to, 536 00:19:36,650 --> 00:19:38,060 Oh, I need to, 537 00:19:38,180 --> 00:19:41,960 is writing a blog going to make you more money versus 538 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:43,820 making five sales calls. 539 00:19:44,390 --> 00:19:47,060 Yeah, but the sales call part is way scarier for most 540 00:19:47,060 --> 00:19:48,980 people, Right? 541 00:19:48,980 --> 00:19:49,670 It's way scary. 542 00:19:49,670 --> 00:19:53,090 It's way easier to do a blog and hope somebody sees 543 00:19:53,090 --> 00:19:56,960 it and calls you as opposed to actually getting on the 544 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:58,550 phone and calling somebody and say, 545 00:19:58,550 --> 00:19:59,990 Hey, I thought of you, 546 00:20:00,230 --> 00:20:01,940 this is something that I have. 547 00:20:02,210 --> 00:20:03,980 And I'd like you to invite you to take a look 548 00:20:03,980 --> 00:20:04,310 at it. 549 00:20:04,550 --> 00:20:06,200 Is this something you might be interested in, 550 00:20:06,710 --> 00:20:09,710 right. Of making a request or making an invitation. 551 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:14,330 And so where are those things that you're doing? 552 00:20:14,330 --> 00:20:16,310 Where do they fall on that money? 553 00:20:16,310 --> 00:20:18,080 Generating tasks scale? 554 00:20:18,380 --> 00:20:21,140 Is it at the bottom end of the scale of absolutely 555 00:20:21,140 --> 00:20:24,140 doing blog posts and doing podcasts and doing all those things 556 00:20:24,140 --> 00:20:28,700 are great and they can generate income over a longer term. 557 00:20:28,940 --> 00:20:30,920 But usually when you're just starting a business, 558 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,500 you want to really focus on those things that get money 559 00:20:33,500 --> 00:20:34,940 into your business quickly. 560 00:20:35,300 --> 00:20:37,580 So then once you have money in your business, 561 00:20:37,610 --> 00:20:39,320 then you can reinvest in your business. 562 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,570 So how do you do that in your day? 563 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,150 How would somebody who's listening right now? 564 00:20:44,210 --> 00:20:47,060 Figure out how to stay focused on revenue generating. 565 00:20:48,670 --> 00:20:50,350 I think it's different for everyone. 566 00:20:50,710 --> 00:20:53,860 I like to work with what comes naturally to people and 567 00:20:53,860 --> 00:20:56,290 then make some modifications of, 568 00:20:56,290 --> 00:20:57,790 okay, are you a morning person? 569 00:20:58,030 --> 00:20:59,110 Are you a night person? 570 00:20:59,350 --> 00:21:01,060 If you're a night person, 571 00:21:01,270 --> 00:21:03,970 I have some tips and tricks for people that if they're 572 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:05,500 the most productive in the evening, 573 00:21:05,830 --> 00:21:08,380 I have some tips and tricks that they can use that 574 00:21:08,380 --> 00:21:10,060 make them look like they're a morning person, 575 00:21:10,180 --> 00:21:13,090 right? Sometimes you just have to be right. 576 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:14,740 Sometimes you just have to be in, 577 00:21:14,750 --> 00:21:17,710 unfortunately as much as when we're creating our own business. 578 00:21:17,740 --> 00:21:20,890 And as entrepreneurs we work at all hours of the day, 579 00:21:21,190 --> 00:21:23,260 the main Workday is still eight to five. 580 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:27,190 And that is when the majority of people are doing business. 581 00:21:27,190 --> 00:21:30,430 And so we still kind of have to conform to that 582 00:21:30,460 --> 00:21:31,510 at some level. 583 00:21:31,780 --> 00:21:34,600 And so depending on where your clients are, 584 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,000 so if your clients are moms, 585 00:21:37,210 --> 00:21:40,660 then maybe the time of day that you're really doing calls 586 00:21:40,660 --> 00:21:44,230 or doing things is from one to two or from 10 587 00:21:44,230 --> 00:21:44,890 to noon. 588 00:21:44,980 --> 00:21:46,540 When most kids are in school, 589 00:21:46,780 --> 00:21:50,110 it's like really dialing in on who your target market is 590 00:21:50,110 --> 00:21:51,460 and your ideal client is. 591 00:21:51,670 --> 00:21:55,450 And what is their schedule when they're accessible and when are 592 00:21:55,450 --> 00:21:58,450 they accessible and how can you reach them if you're working, 593 00:21:58,450 --> 00:22:01,060 if you're consulting with corporations and companies, 594 00:22:01,060 --> 00:22:03,190 it's Monday through Friday eight to five. 595 00:22:03,490 --> 00:22:05,470 And the trick with that one is if you're wanting to 596 00:22:05,470 --> 00:22:08,650 reach like a CEO or someone at a higher level, 597 00:22:08,770 --> 00:22:11,590 you call at seven 30 before their secretary gets in. 598 00:22:11,830 --> 00:22:12,880 There's a great tip for you. 599 00:22:13,410 --> 00:22:15,210 I've actually done that in my corporate day. 600 00:22:15,210 --> 00:22:17,790 I landed one of my largest accounts by doing that. 601 00:22:18,270 --> 00:22:21,900 Absolutely. It works call before the gatekeeper shows up. 602 00:22:22,110 --> 00:22:23,640 Yeah, Absolutely. 603 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,550 And what would you say this little sales idea just came 604 00:22:26,550 --> 00:22:29,160 up to me if you're looking at working with people who 605 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:30,360 are corporate, 606 00:22:30,570 --> 00:22:33,530 how do you think it looks sending an email at 8:00 607 00:22:34,410 --> 00:22:36,720 PM? I don't think that in this day and age, 608 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,690 that that looks does it matter anymore? 609 00:22:39,690 --> 00:22:40,830 I would say yes and no. 610 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:42,480 I would say, 611 00:22:42,570 --> 00:22:44,790 I always notice when somebody sends that, 612 00:22:45,090 --> 00:22:47,700 one of the tools I use is that you can schedule 613 00:22:47,700 --> 00:22:48,480 your emails. 614 00:22:48,510 --> 00:22:51,000 So even if I'm working at 11 or midnight, 615 00:22:51,120 --> 00:22:53,850 I send my emails so that they show up at eight 616 00:22:53,850 --> 00:22:56,520 15, I using boomerang or something like that. 617 00:22:56,910 --> 00:22:58,410 Yeah. That's one of the tools I use. 618 00:22:59,370 --> 00:23:00,540 So like sending them. 619 00:23:00,540 --> 00:23:01,530 So they show up at like eight, 620 00:23:01,530 --> 00:23:04,950 15. So it looks like I'm up and I'm working early 621 00:23:04,950 --> 00:23:05,430 in the morning, 622 00:23:05,430 --> 00:23:06,780 cause I am not a morning person, 623 00:23:07,050 --> 00:23:09,270 but that's the beauty of being an entrepreneur is I get 624 00:23:09,270 --> 00:23:10,470 to set my own schedule. 625 00:23:10,710 --> 00:23:15,030 And so I work late the night sometimes and I set 626 00:23:15,030 --> 00:23:16,620 all my emails to go out in the morning. 627 00:23:16,710 --> 00:23:18,210 And so that when I am up at, 628 00:23:18,210 --> 00:23:19,020 I am working, 629 00:23:19,140 --> 00:23:21,570 I often have responses from them and then I can respond 630 00:23:21,870 --> 00:23:23,070 to them and keep on moving. 631 00:23:23,490 --> 00:23:24,510 Oh, that's a good point. 632 00:23:24,750 --> 00:23:27,180 That goes back to who your customer is. 633 00:23:27,180 --> 00:23:30,330 And I think especially for corporate sending something so that it 634 00:23:30,330 --> 00:23:32,310 lands in the inbox early in the morning, 635 00:23:32,370 --> 00:23:34,470 it means it's also more at the top of the list 636 00:23:34,470 --> 00:23:36,270 when they enter into their inbox. 637 00:23:36,810 --> 00:23:39,660 Jill, I have a question for you about the assessment because 638 00:23:39,660 --> 00:23:42,270 you were making the comment that everyone has a little bit 639 00:23:42,270 --> 00:23:43,170 of a different approach. 640 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,550 Everyone's comfortable and uncomfortable different things. 641 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,520 Is this somewhat what the assessment gets too? 642 00:23:49,930 --> 00:23:52,540 Yes. It looks at your different blocks and the different things 643 00:23:52,540 --> 00:23:57,070 that you are both strengths of your different types of archetypes 644 00:23:57,250 --> 00:23:58,420 and the challenges. 645 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,000 And so when you know what your strengths are and you 646 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,260 know, what your challenges are, 647 00:24:02,380 --> 00:24:03,760 then you can work to those. 648 00:24:04,030 --> 00:24:04,690 I always say, 649 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,090 work to your strengths and hire for your challenges if you 650 00:24:07,090 --> 00:24:09,340 can. And then if it is a challenge, 651 00:24:09,370 --> 00:24:10,750 once you know that that's a challenge, 652 00:24:10,750 --> 00:24:13,660 you can put some things in place to make those things 653 00:24:13,660 --> 00:24:15,220 easier for you got it. 654 00:24:15,370 --> 00:24:16,570 My friends and my clients, 655 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,730 they joke that I'm a hacker because they look at things 656 00:24:18,730 --> 00:24:19,240 and they're like, 657 00:24:19,330 --> 00:24:20,110 I can't do this. 658 00:24:20,110 --> 00:24:20,470 I'm like, 659 00:24:20,500 --> 00:24:21,100 yes, you can. 660 00:24:21,100 --> 00:24:22,240 You just debt at it. 661 00:24:24,250 --> 00:24:24,610 They're like, 662 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,050 Oh, I hate getting up in the morning. 663 00:24:26,050 --> 00:24:28,120 And I have to be up in to send these emails. 664 00:24:28,120 --> 00:24:28,540 I was like, 665 00:24:28,540 --> 00:24:29,680 well, then just use this. 666 00:24:29,690 --> 00:24:31,960 They used to use like a program like boomerang. 667 00:24:32,110 --> 00:24:33,490 And do you always your emails at night? 668 00:24:33,490 --> 00:24:34,450 And they showed that they were like, 669 00:24:34,510 --> 00:24:35,290 you can do that. 670 00:24:35,350 --> 00:24:35,650 And I'm like, 671 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,600 absolutely Wonderful. 672 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:42,130 Perfect. Could you give us maybe either a real or fictitious 673 00:24:42,130 --> 00:24:46,060 example without naming names or anything of how that all works? 674 00:24:46,150 --> 00:24:49,240 So we can put a little more depth to the conversation. 675 00:24:49,420 --> 00:24:51,880 So if someone finds out that they're a certain type, 676 00:24:52,120 --> 00:24:54,070 what do they do and what do they not do? 677 00:24:54,460 --> 00:24:56,050 Can you give us some type of example, 678 00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,730 An example is I worked with one client and she found 679 00:25:00,730 --> 00:25:04,720 out what her archetypes were and just knowing what her architects 680 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,610 were, was a big awareness for her, 681 00:25:06,610 --> 00:25:09,070 of areas that she had been struggling in. 682 00:25:09,550 --> 00:25:13,300 And then I worked with her one-on-one to kind of dive 683 00:25:13,300 --> 00:25:16,930 in deeper with what her top archetypes were. 684 00:25:17,290 --> 00:25:20,680 And then we actually did some work together to actually shift 685 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,420 that there's a, 686 00:25:22,510 --> 00:25:24,880 I call it kind of a money meditation that I worked 687 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,520 through with someone to try to get into that subconscious of 688 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,290 where a lot of that programming is. 689 00:25:29,650 --> 00:25:32,650 And then we work one-on-one of putting a plan in place 690 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:37,630 to really help them use those archetypes to their advantage. 691 00:25:37,810 --> 00:25:41,350 You had mentioned that when you took your assessment that you 692 00:25:41,350 --> 00:25:43,240 thought nurturer would have been higher, 693 00:25:44,010 --> 00:25:45,160 that was second to last. 694 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:46,400 Jill, I know. 695 00:25:48,340 --> 00:25:49,450 I don't know what it means yet. 696 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,070 That's actually kind of a good thing just from you mentioning 697 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,210 that it tells me that you've learned how to have better 698 00:25:55,210 --> 00:25:59,530 boundaries because oftentimes that's what the nurturer struggles the most with 699 00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:02,380 is that they give everything away and they have really poor 700 00:26:02,380 --> 00:26:04,270 boundaries. Okay. 701 00:26:04,300 --> 00:26:05,560 Well, I think that is important. 702 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,420 So I will agree with you there. 703 00:26:07,870 --> 00:26:08,650 I'm curious to know, 704 00:26:08,650 --> 00:26:09,100 like I said, 705 00:26:09,100 --> 00:26:11,050 I haven't seen now that I've taken it, 706 00:26:11,050 --> 00:26:13,240 I haven't been able to dive into what everything means, 707 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:14,680 but I'm excited to do so. 708 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,560 I think that might be some weekend analysis for me, 709 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,710 baby. I also offer a free, 710 00:26:20,740 --> 00:26:22,840 like 30 to 45 minute consultation. 711 00:26:23,170 --> 00:26:26,590 So if you get through your assessment and you still have 712 00:26:26,590 --> 00:26:29,260 questions, I'm happy to jump on the phone and talk with 713 00:26:29,260 --> 00:26:31,660 you further about it and kind of dive into that deeper 714 00:26:31,870 --> 00:26:34,090 and see how you can use that to really move your 715 00:26:34,090 --> 00:26:36,400 business forward and shift your money stories. 716 00:26:37,030 --> 00:26:38,500 Awesome. That's a huge offer, 717 00:26:38,500 --> 00:26:39,310 Jill. Thank you. 718 00:26:39,730 --> 00:26:40,240 You're welcome. 719 00:26:40,900 --> 00:26:43,770 I think this is a perfect place to take a break 720 00:26:43,860 --> 00:26:45,330 and hear a word from our sponsor. 721 00:26:47,420 --> 00:26:49,130 This podcast is made possible. 722 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,680 Thanks to the support of the ribbon print company, 723 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,310 create custom ribbons right in your store or craft studio in 724 00:26:55,310 --> 00:26:58,340 seconds, visit the ribbon print company.com 725 00:26:58,340 --> 00:26:59,450 for more information. 726 00:27:01,130 --> 00:27:05,180 Okay. So your company is called beyond logic. 727 00:27:05,510 --> 00:27:06,350 What does that mean? 728 00:27:09,170 --> 00:27:10,220 It's one of my favorite things. 729 00:27:10,250 --> 00:27:11,420 And if you look at my page, 730 00:27:11,450 --> 00:27:14,960 my logo is actually a Knight chest piece with wings on 731 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:15,920 it. Well, 732 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,120 because you're the wing woman, 733 00:27:17,120 --> 00:27:20,360 right? I am the wing woman and in chess, 734 00:27:20,450 --> 00:27:22,550 the Knight can only move in an L pattern, 735 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,500 but when you give it wings, 736 00:27:24,530 --> 00:27:26,060 it can move wherever it wants To. 737 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,520 Ooh. Yeah. 738 00:27:29,540 --> 00:27:30,740 So I love that. 739 00:27:30,740 --> 00:27:35,090 And so beyond logic is logic is actually just an illusion. 740 00:27:35,330 --> 00:27:36,890 And oftentimes in our society, 741 00:27:36,890 --> 00:27:39,200 there's so much weight given to logic. 742 00:27:39,410 --> 00:27:44,330 That logic is really just an accumulation of our past experiences 743 00:27:44,330 --> 00:27:46,610 and belief systems telling us what's possible. 744 00:27:46,940 --> 00:27:50,480 And so if you have a faulty logic programmed in, 745 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,150 it's often telling you what you can't do. 746 00:27:53,570 --> 00:27:55,940 And so when you go beyond logic, 747 00:27:56,090 --> 00:27:58,940 you can actually get where you want to go of like 748 00:27:58,970 --> 00:28:01,160 reprogramming what that logic is. 749 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:02,450 Does that make sense? 750 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:03,560 Yeah. I mean, 751 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,860 why do we always gravitate to what we think is going 752 00:28:06,860 --> 00:28:08,270 to be the worst for us? 753 00:28:08,360 --> 00:28:09,890 I guess it's the fear thing, 754 00:28:10,550 --> 00:28:12,020 instead of saying with logic, 755 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:13,730 all of this is possible. 756 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,020 All of us, 757 00:28:15,110 --> 00:28:16,010 imposter syndrome, 758 00:28:16,010 --> 00:28:17,960 whatever we want to say is internally, 759 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,540 we bring up all the reasons why it couldn't possibly be 760 00:28:20,540 --> 00:28:21,470 true for us. 761 00:28:21,830 --> 00:28:25,130 Right? And I look at that to you is like we 762 00:28:25,130 --> 00:28:26,870 have our right brain and our left brain. 763 00:28:26,870 --> 00:28:29,390 And it actually kind of tunes into our brain is our 764 00:28:29,390 --> 00:28:32,720 left brain is very logical and very analytical. 765 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,060 And our right brain is very creative. 766 00:28:35,090 --> 00:28:37,730 And I say that our right brain is more heart-centered as 767 00:28:37,730 --> 00:28:41,270 well. And oftentimes what I see happen is that our left 768 00:28:41,270 --> 00:28:42,410 brain and our right brains, 769 00:28:42,410 --> 00:28:45,590 our logic and our heart are actually supposed to be working 770 00:28:45,590 --> 00:28:47,990 as a team logic isn't bad. 771 00:28:48,260 --> 00:28:52,010 So it's actually supposed to work together of logic is like, 772 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,160 okay, I want to quit my job and travel the world. 773 00:28:55,550 --> 00:28:57,440 So logic comes in and goes, 774 00:28:57,470 --> 00:28:59,560 if that's what your heart says and your logic comes in, 775 00:28:59,570 --> 00:28:59,840 it's like, 776 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:00,710 we can't do that. 777 00:29:01,250 --> 00:29:02,030 Right. Right. 778 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,060 If logic was on your team, 779 00:29:05,330 --> 00:29:06,140 it would be like, 780 00:29:06,170 --> 00:29:07,580 we can't do that now, 781 00:29:07,610 --> 00:29:09,080 but how could we do That? 782 00:29:09,290 --> 00:29:10,460 How can we plan for it? 783 00:29:10,970 --> 00:29:12,020 How could we plan for it? 784 00:29:12,020 --> 00:29:13,370 How could we make that happen? 785 00:29:13,610 --> 00:29:16,040 And that's where logic kind of what I say is our 786 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,790 left brain often becomes a bully and kind of likes to 787 00:29:19,790 --> 00:29:20,840 be in control. 788 00:29:21,050 --> 00:29:23,270 And so when our heart comes up and says, 789 00:29:23,300 --> 00:29:26,480 Oh, I'd love to de our logic comes in and comes 790 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:26,810 is like, 791 00:29:26,810 --> 00:29:28,550 no, we can't do that because this, 792 00:29:28,550 --> 00:29:30,050 this, and this happened in our past. 793 00:29:30,050 --> 00:29:30,380 And like, 794 00:29:30,530 --> 00:29:33,020 we can't make that happen because of XYZ. 795 00:29:33,620 --> 00:29:36,950 Whereas if we allow our heart and our left brain and 796 00:29:36,950 --> 00:29:38,720 our right brain to be in balance, 797 00:29:38,750 --> 00:29:42,190 we can create so much more and have so more fulfillment 798 00:29:42,820 --> 00:29:44,290 That makes so much sense. 799 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,900 And I've never heard anyone really describe it in that way 800 00:29:46,900 --> 00:29:49,000 before. That is really good. 801 00:29:49,210 --> 00:29:53,500 So I know also you have techniques to get people to 802 00:29:53,500 --> 00:29:55,210 just get back in control. 803 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,720 Now, whether they're stressed out or they're super frustrated and you 804 00:29:58,720 --> 00:29:59,320 know how it is, 805 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,200 our thoughts build on itself and it grows bigger and bigger 806 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:03,340 and bigger and bigger, 807 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,480 and we are super stressed out and you have some special 808 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,580 ideas of how to deal with these situations. 809 00:30:10,260 --> 00:30:13,170 Yes. There's a couple of different things that I use. 810 00:30:13,410 --> 00:30:16,140 One of them is if you think of like thoughts being 811 00:30:16,140 --> 00:30:19,140 energy, I don't know if you've ever been around people and 812 00:30:19,140 --> 00:30:19,830 they're just, 813 00:30:20,130 --> 00:30:21,900 I call them like energy vampires. 814 00:30:21,900 --> 00:30:24,030 They kind of just suck you dry being around them. 815 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,460 And what I always say is like, 816 00:30:26,460 --> 00:30:30,090 when you're in that space to really focus on of like, 817 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,430 okay, am I 100% me? 818 00:30:32,940 --> 00:30:33,930 Because oftentimes people, 819 00:30:33,930 --> 00:30:35,790 project thoughts and ideas at you. 820 00:30:35,790 --> 00:30:38,130 And we take them on as if they're our own, 821 00:30:38,190 --> 00:30:39,600 when they're actually not. 822 00:30:39,990 --> 00:30:41,940 When it's someone else's perception, 823 00:30:42,300 --> 00:30:43,830 Somebody else's point of view, 824 00:30:43,860 --> 00:30:46,950 it's somebody else's thought process and it's actually not our own, 825 00:30:46,950 --> 00:30:48,600 but we take it on as if it's our own, 826 00:30:49,050 --> 00:30:51,900 Because we validate ourselves by reactions of others. 827 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:53,070 Right? Exactly. 828 00:30:53,190 --> 00:30:55,620 Reactions and comments of others that might not be right. 829 00:30:56,220 --> 00:30:59,790 Yes. And so one of those things is I asked myself, 830 00:30:59,820 --> 00:31:01,590 okay, am I 100% me? 831 00:31:01,770 --> 00:31:04,290 And I'm very intuitive and I've done a lot of work. 832 00:31:04,290 --> 00:31:06,450 I started out doing this with muscle testing. 833 00:31:06,780 --> 00:31:08,460 It's called applied kinesiology. 834 00:31:08,940 --> 00:31:11,100 And I started doing it with muscle testing. 835 00:31:11,100 --> 00:31:13,080 But as I've developed it for myself, 836 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,440 I naturally intuitively hear a yes or a no now. 837 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:17,970 And so when I'm sitting in, 838 00:31:17,970 --> 00:31:19,320 I'm getting ready to do something. 839 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:19,980 I always go, 840 00:31:19,980 --> 00:31:22,290 okay, am I 100% me today? 841 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:23,850 And if I get a no, 842 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:24,270 I'm like, 843 00:31:24,270 --> 00:31:26,160 okay, anything that is not me, 844 00:31:26,190 --> 00:31:27,810 not mine and an energy, 845 00:31:27,810 --> 00:31:28,680 any emotions, 846 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,870 any point of views that are not mine, 847 00:31:31,140 --> 00:31:33,570 I return them to sender with consciousness. 848 00:31:36,330 --> 00:31:38,010 So I returned that and I'm like, 849 00:31:38,010 --> 00:31:39,780 okay, now am I a hundred percent me? 850 00:31:39,780 --> 00:31:41,100 And I usually get a yes. 851 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:42,330 And then I'm like, 852 00:31:42,330 --> 00:31:43,620 okay, that now. 853 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,780 And usually it creates a lightness. 854 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:50,700 And another tool I use is light and heavy lightness is 855 00:31:50,730 --> 00:31:52,500 when something is true for you, 856 00:31:52,530 --> 00:31:54,840 it'll feel really light and expansive. 857 00:31:55,140 --> 00:31:58,380 And when something isn't true for you it'll feel really heavy 858 00:31:58,380 --> 00:31:59,400 and contractive. 859 00:31:59,940 --> 00:32:03,480 And so really tuning into the energy of something of when 860 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:04,590 you're thinking about doing it, 861 00:32:04,710 --> 00:32:05,790 does it light you up? 862 00:32:05,850 --> 00:32:07,260 Does it feel really expansive? 863 00:32:07,260 --> 00:32:07,680 Like, Oh, 864 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:08,730 this would be amazing. 865 00:32:09,030 --> 00:32:10,080 Or when you think about it, 866 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:10,590 is it like, 867 00:32:10,620 --> 00:32:12,120 Oh gosh, 868 00:32:12,210 --> 00:32:12,930 like, Ooh, 869 00:32:13,220 --> 00:32:15,090 it feels really heavy and contractive. 870 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,260 And these are tools that I've actually learned through a process 871 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,570 or a group called access consciousness. 872 00:32:21,900 --> 00:32:24,660 And these tools are really amazing to really help you tune 873 00:32:24,660 --> 00:32:25,560 into something, 874 00:32:25,620 --> 00:32:27,390 to know what's true for you and to also to be 875 00:32:27,390 --> 00:32:28,680 able to choose for you as well. 876 00:32:29,130 --> 00:32:30,840 So how is that different? 877 00:32:30,870 --> 00:32:33,960 Because I could see someone liking to use this as an 878 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:38,280 excuse. So let's go back to picking a revenue generating tasks. 879 00:32:38,310 --> 00:32:42,170 Like you need to those five sales calls today, 880 00:32:42,170 --> 00:32:46,370 instead of perfecting some artwork on your website or whatever it 881 00:32:46,370 --> 00:32:49,070 is, but those tasks are scary. 882 00:32:49,100 --> 00:32:50,480 They're out of your comfort zone. 883 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:51,920 So they would feel heavy, 884 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,530 right? Because they're not comfortable for you. 885 00:32:54,910 --> 00:32:58,210 Yeah. That is the trick of resistance. 886 00:32:58,300 --> 00:33:00,190 Oftentimes feels heavy as well. 887 00:33:00,490 --> 00:33:03,520 And so when we're resistant to do something that we know 888 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:04,660 we need to do, 889 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,250 like that inner wisdom says, 890 00:33:06,250 --> 00:33:08,320 Hey, if I call Mary, 891 00:33:08,380 --> 00:33:11,920 like I have an inner wisdom hit and intuitive hit that 892 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,920 Mary May want what I have. 893 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,750 And then we don't listen to that. 894 00:33:16,750 --> 00:33:18,580 We don't take action. 895 00:33:18,580 --> 00:33:21,160 It's like 10 of trusting your awareness, 896 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,220 but then you have to take action to make things happen. 897 00:33:24,220 --> 00:33:29,770 And sometimes there's a difference between heaviness and being uncomfortable, 898 00:33:29,770 --> 00:33:33,100 expanding your comfort zone and doing some of those things to 899 00:33:33,250 --> 00:33:34,840 grow your knowledge and your wisdom. 900 00:33:35,230 --> 00:33:36,250 There's a difference there. 901 00:33:36,250 --> 00:33:36,850 Does that make sense? 902 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,330 I wanted to bring it up only because I could see 903 00:33:40,330 --> 00:33:41,470 people saying, 904 00:33:41,500 --> 00:33:43,150 okay, well then I'm out. 905 00:33:43,180 --> 00:33:45,340 I get a pass because it's heavy. 906 00:33:45,940 --> 00:33:48,130 So when you're in a situation like that, 907 00:33:48,130 --> 00:33:50,350 where you're anxious or nervous or stressed, 908 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,570 then you also need to kind of analyze, 909 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,080 okay, is it something that's heavy or is it something where 910 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,580 I'm just uncomfortable? 911 00:33:57,580 --> 00:33:59,200 And in that case you just want to push through, 912 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:00,220 Right? Yeah. 913 00:34:00,220 --> 00:34:01,540 Is it something that's really heavy? 914 00:34:01,540 --> 00:34:03,610 And I don't feel like it's for me, 915 00:34:03,610 --> 00:34:04,600 I feel it in my gut. 916 00:34:04,660 --> 00:34:05,260 Right? I'm like, 917 00:34:05,290 --> 00:34:07,330 Ooh, this almost makes me feel sick. 918 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:07,990 And then, 919 00:34:07,990 --> 00:34:10,090 but resistance feels different of, 920 00:34:10,270 --> 00:34:11,920 Oh, I really don't want to do that. 921 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,790 But it's something that I know that if I take those 922 00:34:15,790 --> 00:34:17,110 steps and take action, 923 00:34:17,140 --> 00:34:19,000 that it will create something for me. 924 00:34:19,330 --> 00:34:20,530 Right. I would say, 925 00:34:20,530 --> 00:34:24,160 when you do something that you're uncomfortable with one time and 926 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:24,910 it works, 927 00:34:25,190 --> 00:34:26,620 then you can use that as a model. 928 00:34:26,620 --> 00:34:28,660 So if you go back and you're in a situation once 929 00:34:28,660 --> 00:34:29,950 again, where you have to push through, 930 00:34:29,950 --> 00:34:30,310 you can say, 931 00:34:30,310 --> 00:34:30,760 well, look, 932 00:34:30,790 --> 00:34:32,860 I did it last time and look what happened. 933 00:34:33,190 --> 00:34:35,350 And those start to build on themselves then too. 934 00:34:35,350 --> 00:34:36,010 I think, 935 00:34:36,370 --> 00:34:37,240 Yes, definitely. 936 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,910 Well, you create taking those steps, 937 00:34:39,910 --> 00:34:43,960 right? You create a pattern for yourself of breaking through those 938 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,130 things that are uncomfortable. 939 00:34:45,490 --> 00:34:47,350 And there's an example. 940 00:34:47,350 --> 00:34:48,370 I usually draw it out, 941 00:34:48,370 --> 00:34:49,660 but I'll try to paint a picture of it. 942 00:34:49,690 --> 00:34:51,790 Of, we all talk about being in a box, 943 00:34:51,790 --> 00:34:56,590 right? And our box is usually our comfort zone and our 944 00:34:56,590 --> 00:34:59,440 hopes, goals and dreams are outside of our comfort zone. 945 00:34:59,530 --> 00:35:00,880 Otherwise, if they weren't, 946 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,110 they would already be in the box. 947 00:35:02,500 --> 00:35:03,910 So what happens is, 948 00:35:03,910 --> 00:35:07,510 as we go to leave the box and I'll reference that 949 00:35:07,510 --> 00:35:10,360 book, the dream giver of leaving that land of familiar, 950 00:35:10,390 --> 00:35:11,830 leaving that comfort zone, 951 00:35:12,100 --> 00:35:14,830 and we start taking those steps towards our hopes, 952 00:35:14,830 --> 00:35:15,880 goals, and dreams, 953 00:35:16,150 --> 00:35:17,620 it's going to get uncomfortable. 954 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:18,850 But what happens is, 955 00:35:18,850 --> 00:35:21,280 as you get outside of your box and you're out there 956 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:22,240 and unfamiliar, 957 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,470 what happens is fear and excitement are the exact same emotion. 958 00:35:26,470 --> 00:35:27,820 We just label it differently. 959 00:35:28,060 --> 00:35:29,350 Your palms get sweaty. 960 00:35:29,350 --> 00:35:30,700 You can kind of short of breath. 961 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,350 And you're like, 962 00:35:32,410 --> 00:35:33,580 Oh, what am I doing? 963 00:35:33,910 --> 00:35:36,040 And so if you really look at that fear and excitement 964 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:36,970 are the exact same. 965 00:35:37,380 --> 00:35:39,150 It's just choosing what to label it. 966 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,820 So as you get out into unfamiliar, 967 00:35:42,090 --> 00:35:44,160 and if you label that emotion, 968 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,760 excitement, and you stay there and you make the choices to 969 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,130 stay there and to expand your comfort zone, 970 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,170 that comfort zone will expand. 971 00:35:52,590 --> 00:35:53,370 I love it. 972 00:35:53,700 --> 00:35:56,250 What happens is our brain is actually really lazy. 973 00:35:56,550 --> 00:35:58,770 And if it can talk you out of doing something new, 974 00:35:58,770 --> 00:36:01,920 so it doesn't have to learn something new and run back 975 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,000 into your comfort zone, 976 00:36:03,030 --> 00:36:04,260 then it's succeeded. 977 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:05,850 That's where we come back to mindset. 978 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,630 Then you stagnate because if you don't do anything, 979 00:36:08,630 --> 00:36:09,170 that's different. 980 00:36:09,170 --> 00:36:10,040 You're not going to grow. 981 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,110 Yeah. And you're not going to achieve those hopes, 982 00:36:12,110 --> 00:36:12,920 goals, and dreams, 983 00:36:13,580 --> 00:36:17,420 because as you continue to get comfortable being uncomfortable and keep 984 00:36:17,450 --> 00:36:18,770 growing that comfort zone, 985 00:36:18,950 --> 00:36:22,370 pretty soon that comfort zone is going to encompass all those 986 00:36:22,370 --> 00:36:23,030 hopes, goals, 987 00:36:23,030 --> 00:36:23,570 and dreams. 988 00:36:24,020 --> 00:36:25,730 Yup. Because your box is expanded. 989 00:36:26,030 --> 00:36:27,680 Exactly. Wonderful. 990 00:36:27,710 --> 00:36:28,580 Love that. 991 00:36:28,790 --> 00:36:29,840 That's a great example. 992 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,580 And you described it so well, 993 00:36:31,850 --> 00:36:32,750 what would you say, 994 00:36:32,750 --> 00:36:35,840 Jill? Kind of as a final piece of advice to someone 995 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,700 who's listening to all of this, 996 00:36:37,790 --> 00:36:41,300 maybe as back when you were just switching out and thinking 997 00:36:41,300 --> 00:36:44,060 you were going to do photography full-time so they're right back 998 00:36:44,060 --> 00:36:45,200 there. You know, 999 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,440 so much now you've had a lot of success you've continued 1000 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,360 to grow and expand your box. 1001 00:36:50,660 --> 00:36:53,750 What words of wisdom would you have for someone who's just 1002 00:36:53,750 --> 00:36:54,440 thinking, okay, 1003 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,600 well maybe Jill has something to this. 1004 00:36:56,930 --> 00:36:58,100 What's your advice to them? 1005 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,630 Advice to you is be selective on who you receive advice 1006 00:37:02,630 --> 00:37:07,130 from. So when I was leaving my corporate job to go 1007 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,110 full-time with my photography business, 1008 00:37:09,290 --> 00:37:12,410 people that had a job and who worked in my office, 1009 00:37:12,620 --> 00:37:14,150 they tried to intervention me. 1010 00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:15,590 They tried to talk me out of it. 1011 00:37:15,950 --> 00:37:16,760 Oh my gosh. 1012 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,880 Five people pull me into a room and try to be 1013 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:20,960 like, what are you doing? 1014 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,100 This won't work for you. 1015 00:37:22,100 --> 00:37:24,020 I can't believe you're making this choice. 1016 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,860 And then I had friends that were entrepreneurs who had been 1017 00:37:27,860 --> 00:37:30,710 out doing business for themselves for several years. 1018 00:37:31,100 --> 00:37:31,940 And they were, 1019 00:37:32,090 --> 00:37:32,660 Oh my God, 1020 00:37:32,660 --> 00:37:33,620 it's going to be amazing. 1021 00:37:33,620 --> 00:37:34,670 You're going to go awesome. 1022 00:37:34,670 --> 00:37:36,080 It's going to be fantastic. 1023 00:37:36,110 --> 00:37:36,980 You're going to love it. 1024 00:37:37,070 --> 00:37:37,880 You're going to do great. 1025 00:37:38,330 --> 00:37:40,220 And so with that, 1026 00:37:40,250 --> 00:37:40,790 I would say, 1027 00:37:40,790 --> 00:37:44,360 be very selective on who you receive advice from, 1028 00:37:44,390 --> 00:37:46,070 as you're stepping into that, 1029 00:37:46,070 --> 00:37:47,540 and you're making that choice, 1030 00:37:47,870 --> 00:37:51,530 take advice from people who are doing it and who have 1031 00:37:51,530 --> 00:37:52,100 done it. 1032 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,920 And oftentimes those are not your friends and family. 1033 00:37:55,250 --> 00:37:57,770 And when we're thinking about making a big change or making 1034 00:37:57,770 --> 00:37:58,610 a big step, 1035 00:37:58,790 --> 00:38:01,250 we often run it by our friends and family and they 1036 00:38:01,250 --> 00:38:02,090 can't see it. 1037 00:38:02,210 --> 00:38:04,850 They can only see us for who we are in our 1038 00:38:04,850 --> 00:38:07,610 box, not for who we want to be outside of our 1039 00:38:07,610 --> 00:38:08,690 box. Right. 1040 00:38:08,690 --> 00:38:10,790 And they genuinely want to protect you too. 1041 00:38:11,060 --> 00:38:12,530 And they generally want to protect you. 1042 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,680 Yes. And they don't want you to stumble or have a 1043 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,210 possibility of failure. 1044 00:38:17,510 --> 00:38:19,880 And oftentimes it's selfish for them too, 1045 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,560 because when you grow, 1046 00:38:21,590 --> 00:38:24,770 oftentimes it makes them grow too and see you in a 1047 00:38:24,770 --> 00:38:25,490 different way. 1048 00:38:25,820 --> 00:38:29,780 And so when you're making those choices of be very selective 1049 00:38:29,780 --> 00:38:33,830 on who you receive feedback from and who you receive advice 1050 00:38:33,830 --> 00:38:36,670 from, especially if doing anything creative, 1051 00:38:36,970 --> 00:38:38,140 especially like photography, 1052 00:38:38,170 --> 00:38:40,720 creative fields are so subjective. 1053 00:38:41,050 --> 00:38:44,920 And I remember when I was a budding photographer, 1054 00:38:45,220 --> 00:38:47,830 I had another photographer that I looked up to that gave 1055 00:38:47,830 --> 00:38:48,490 me a really, 1056 00:38:48,490 --> 00:38:49,750 really harsh critique. 1057 00:38:50,140 --> 00:38:52,480 What I'm really grateful for is I had another friend and 1058 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:53,740 mentor come alongside me. 1059 00:38:53,740 --> 00:38:54,340 And she's like, 1060 00:38:54,580 --> 00:38:56,920 this person was critiquing your style, 1061 00:38:57,190 --> 00:38:58,720 not how you do it. 1062 00:38:59,230 --> 00:39:00,850 For me of like photography wise, 1063 00:39:00,850 --> 00:39:03,070 I love bright and vibrant photographs. 1064 00:39:03,460 --> 00:39:05,800 And the person who gave me the really harsh critique, 1065 00:39:05,830 --> 00:39:08,950 like subdued and dark and like black and white photographs. 1066 00:39:09,310 --> 00:39:11,680 And she gave me a really hard critique saying that, 1067 00:39:11,710 --> 00:39:13,120 Oh, your photos are too bright. 1068 00:39:13,510 --> 00:39:13,780 I was like, 1069 00:39:13,780 --> 00:39:15,250 well, that's my style. 1070 00:39:15,430 --> 00:39:18,010 And so that's really something to look at too, 1071 00:39:18,010 --> 00:39:19,630 is in the creative field, 1072 00:39:19,630 --> 00:39:21,100 everything is subjective. 1073 00:39:21,490 --> 00:39:23,860 So one person may not like what you create, 1074 00:39:23,890 --> 00:39:24,520 but you know what? 1075 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,620 It might be the thing that another person has always been 1076 00:39:26,620 --> 00:39:26,860 looking for. 1077 00:39:27,570 --> 00:39:29,520 Well, and then it becomes the thing that you're known for 1078 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:30,660 too. Yes. 1079 00:39:30,810 --> 00:39:33,690 So the people who really love that style are going to 1080 00:39:33,690 --> 00:39:36,120 love you even more because that's what you're all about. 1081 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:37,320 That's what you represent. 1082 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,860 And another piece of advice I would say is you are 1083 00:39:40,860 --> 00:39:42,390 not your ideal client. 1084 00:39:42,810 --> 00:39:43,560 Oh, good one. 1085 00:39:43,950 --> 00:39:46,980 So just because you wouldn't pay for that, 1086 00:39:46,980 --> 00:39:48,750 or you wouldn't do it that way, 1087 00:39:48,750 --> 00:39:51,810 or you wouldn't pay this much for this thing, 1088 00:39:51,900 --> 00:39:54,720 never means somebody else would not Very good. 1089 00:39:54,900 --> 00:39:56,460 Wonderful, great, 1090 00:39:56,550 --> 00:39:58,710 great comments all the way through here. 1091 00:39:58,710 --> 00:40:02,070 Jill, you have given us so much to consider change of 1092 00:40:02,070 --> 00:40:03,990 mindset, taking that assessment, 1093 00:40:04,020 --> 00:40:04,710 all of that. 1094 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,290 So now I want to give you a gift. 1095 00:40:07,410 --> 00:40:09,240 I want to invite you to dare to dream. 1096 00:40:09,570 --> 00:40:11,670 I'd like to present you with a virtual gift. 1097 00:40:11,850 --> 00:40:16,020 It's a magical box containing unlimited possibilities for your future. 1098 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,630 So this would be your dream or your goal. 1099 00:40:18,660 --> 00:40:21,870 That's almost unreachable that you would wish to obtain. 1100 00:40:22,110 --> 00:40:24,600 Please accept this gift and open it here in front of 1101 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:25,290 all of us. 1102 00:40:25,590 --> 00:40:26,850 What is inside your box? 1103 00:40:27,450 --> 00:40:29,280 I would say that I feel like it's unattainable, 1104 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,430 but it's definitely a stretch goal for me of inside my 1105 00:40:32,430 --> 00:40:35,040 box would be teaching and training on stage at my own 1106 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:36,360 event here in San Diego. 1107 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:37,320 In that event, 1108 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,740 I'd be supporting women entrepreneurs to breakthrough their mindset, 1109 00:40:40,740 --> 00:40:41,160 their money, 1110 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,970 and their visibility blocks that are keeping them from really launching 1111 00:40:44,970 --> 00:40:47,760 and flying in their business so that they could enjoy the 1112 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,700 possibilities, the purpose and the profits that they desire. 1113 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,930 Beautiful. So you're really taking your coaching and then just upleveling 1114 00:40:54,930 --> 00:40:58,350 it into a live experience with multiple people there. 1115 00:40:58,620 --> 00:41:01,560 Yes. Who I see that as totally attainable. 1116 00:41:01,740 --> 00:41:03,540 And we're going to cheer you on for you to get 1117 00:41:03,540 --> 00:41:04,500 there. Thank you. 1118 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:05,880 That's perfect. 1119 00:41:07,170 --> 00:41:07,950 So, Jill, 1120 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,550 I think you have something exciting happening at the end of 1121 00:41:11,550 --> 00:41:12,030 this month. 1122 00:41:12,060 --> 00:41:14,010 This happens to be January. 1123 00:41:14,130 --> 00:41:16,440 So when our listeners hear this, 1124 00:41:16,620 --> 00:41:18,180 it's going to be up and going already. 1125 00:41:18,300 --> 00:41:21,180 What is going on At the end of February, 1126 00:41:21,180 --> 00:41:25,080 I'm actually launching my book and the title is called the 1127 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:26,070 freedom to fly. 1128 00:41:26,430 --> 00:41:29,460 And it is for visionary entrepreneurs. 1129 00:41:29,460 --> 00:41:32,550 And it's a guide to really activating your inner wisdom to 1130 00:41:32,550 --> 00:41:34,310 confidently create more possibility, 1131 00:41:34,310 --> 00:41:36,800 purpose and profit in your life and business. 1132 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:37,780 Oh my gosh. 1133 00:41:37,780 --> 00:41:39,460 That sounds fabulous. 1134 00:41:39,490 --> 00:41:41,380 I am already going to purchase one. 1135 00:41:41,380 --> 00:41:42,130 Where do we find it? 1136 00:41:42,130 --> 00:41:43,600 Yeah, it's on Amazon. 1137 00:41:43,870 --> 00:41:45,970 And if you just go to amazon.com 1138 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,550 and either do a search for freedom to fly, 1139 00:41:48,550 --> 00:41:49,450 or for my name, 1140 00:41:49,450 --> 00:41:50,140 Jill Fleming, 1141 00:41:50,140 --> 00:41:51,310 then you should be able to find it. 1142 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:52,120 Perfect. Perfect. 1143 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:53,170 And give biz listeners, 1144 00:41:53,170 --> 00:41:53,680 as you know, 1145 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:54,970 there'll be a show notes page, 1146 00:41:55,210 --> 00:41:58,600 all the links for Jill connected up there as well. 1147 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,700 The link to her brand new book. 1148 00:42:00,740 --> 00:42:01,990 So exciting. 1149 00:42:02,710 --> 00:42:04,960 Yeah. I'm really super excited to get that out there. 1150 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,710 How should our listeners reach out to you again? 1151 00:42:08,710 --> 00:42:10,930 They'll go on your website and take the assessment. 1152 00:42:10,990 --> 00:42:12,790 And your website is again, 1153 00:42:13,390 --> 00:42:15,160 Living beyond logic.com. 1154 00:42:15,460 --> 00:42:19,780 Perfect. You offered up a one-on-one free call. 1155 00:42:19,780 --> 00:42:23,950 If anyone wants to go further after they've taken that assessment. 1156 00:42:24,220 --> 00:42:26,350 Any other comments in terms of how to get in touch 1157 00:42:26,350 --> 00:42:26,860 with you? 1158 00:42:26,860 --> 00:42:29,260 Any final words for our audience here? 1159 00:42:29,830 --> 00:42:30,820 No, I don't think so. 1160 00:42:30,820 --> 00:42:32,590 I think that just going through my website, 1161 00:42:32,620 --> 00:42:34,990 my, all of my contact information is on my website. 1162 00:42:35,380 --> 00:42:39,850 I always do a complimentary consultation just to see if working 1163 00:42:39,850 --> 00:42:41,530 with someone is going to be a good fit. 1164 00:42:41,860 --> 00:42:45,040 And so if there's anyone out there that feels like I 1165 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:46,090 might be able to support them, 1166 00:42:46,090 --> 00:42:47,950 I'm always happy to have a conversation with them. 1167 00:42:48,190 --> 00:42:50,170 Well, thank you so much for taking your time out of 1168 00:42:50,170 --> 00:42:52,810 the day to share all your wisdom with us gel and 1169 00:42:52,810 --> 00:42:54,940 may your candle always burn bright. 1170 00:42:55,270 --> 00:42:55,750 Thanks so much, 1171 00:42:55,750 --> 00:42:59,080 Sue. 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