[00:00:00] Dan 1:

[00:00:24] Dan 1: Coming up this week, with the podcast being four weeks behind, we discuss baby's first Christmas outing, such as going to Pantos, also how to navigate post newborn friendships as well as a health scare that resulted in a doctor's visit.

[00:00:37]

[00:00:38] Intro and breakfast

---

[00:00:38] Dan 1: This is

[00:00:41] Tilly: a week. Nine. Nine. Have

[00:00:45] Dan 1: Have we moved on to the months yet? Can we, can we stop tracking weeks and do months?

[00:00:50] Tilly: Yeah, I don't know. I feel like people do that post 12, don't they?

[00:00:54] Tilly: We keep doing it Well, we're going to always do weeks because we're doing this weekly. We would if we were like, she's two months

[00:00:59] Tilly: and a quarter.

[00:01:01] Tilly: we can do that if you want. 2. 25 months? Do you like Probably nine weeks

[00:01:07] Tilly: then. So, actually recording with our breakfast, so

[00:01:13] Tilly: I've not made a snazzy meal, what have you got darling? Explain how we do breakfast in this house, with your really full mouth. Okay, so I

[00:01:22] Dan 1: I have something called weekend breakfast, which is basically where I just eat kids cereal for breakfast at the weekend.

[00:01:28] Tilly: Yeah,

[00:01:29] Tilly: I don't let him have it all the way through the week. which makes it like a really controlling wife.

[00:01:32] Tilly: No,

[00:01:32] Dan 1: I know, I agree with the principle. I just wouldn't have the discipline, so,

[00:01:36] Tilly: yeah, so during the week I make, Dan a healthy breakfast. you know, Yoghurt, porridge, birch muesli, that sort of stuff. still tasty, because you're lucky you've got a chef wifey. But Then on the weekends, you're allowed to have, yeah, your

[00:01:49] Tilly: super sugary

[00:01:50] Tilly: kiddie cereal. Although, what's going to be our rules on this once it comes to weaning?

[00:01:56] Tilly: Because We want to have

[00:01:57] Tilly: Moonbeam not having sugar for the first few years.

[00:01:59] Tilly: So, how are we going to manage that?

[00:02:01] Dan 1: I think it'll just have to go and be replaced with like, granola and dried fruit. I don't really mind, like,

[00:02:07] Tilly: because

[00:02:07] Dan 1: you're happy with there being a lot of fructose based stuff,

[00:02:10] Tilly: Yeah. Like,

[00:02:11] Tilly: pure fruit

[00:02:12] Dan 1: pure fruit sugars.

[00:02:13] Tilly: Dan is

[00:02:14] Tilly: definitely.

[00:02:14] Tilly: someone who gets hangry, aren't you

[00:02:16] Dan 1: Yeah. So between the recording stuff

[00:02:18] Dan 1: not working earlier,

[00:02:20] Dan 1: took me

[00:02:20] Dan 1: about

[00:02:20] Tilly: and

[00:02:21] Dan 1: an hour and a half to start this week, all the fucking hard work going

[00:02:24] Tilly: Yeah. So you've got a slightly grumpy Dan, which is fair enough. I'd be pissed off

[00:02:27] Tilly: too. But

[00:02:28] Dan 1: then also having not eaten for that period. Now it's like fucking course 12 and I haven't had breakfast. I'm wolfing it down.

[00:02:36] Tilly: I haven't

[00:02:36] Tilly: had breakfast either, which is naughty, because I'm making Booby juice. Lemme grab mine. So what, what, what cereal have you got today then, Bob, you've got combi, you like a mixture, don't you?

[00:02:46] Tilly: I like

[00:02:47] Dan 1: find flavours that work together. So today I've got Lidl's, Noaldi's,

[00:02:53] Tilly: al went went Al. Aldi's

[00:02:56] Dan 1: Biscoff Balls, and

[00:02:58] Tilly: their

[00:02:59] Dan 1: version of

[00:02:59] Tilly: Crunchy

[00:03:00] Tilly: Nut Clusters, Crunchy Nut Clusters, yeah. Nice.

[00:03:03] Tilly: So

[00:03:03] Dan 1: What have you got for

[00:03:04] Tilly: for breakfast? So, I've got something. you'd absolutely love.

[00:03:07] Dan 1: got fucking tahini in, doesn't

[00:03:09] Tilly: It's got tahini. tahini. Thankfully tahini

[00:03:14] Tilly: is one of those things that makes you produce more

[00:03:16] Tilly: milk. So I've got an excuse to eat lots of tahini. And

[00:03:20] Tilly: it's high in iron and I'm always a little bit anemic so,

[00:03:23] Tilly: all the

[00:03:23] Tilly: reasons to chant tahini.

[00:03:25] Dan 1: half

[00:03:25] Tilly: I've got a mixture, I've got half skewer, so super high protein yogurt, a vanilla skewer,

[00:03:32] Tilly: and half Greek yogurt. And then I've got a load of tahini on it, I've got some mixed seeds,

[00:03:39] Tilly: and

[00:03:39] Tilly: some

[00:03:39] Tilly: walnuts.

[00:03:40] Dan 1: don't

[00:03:40] Tilly: breakfast. I don't really like a sweet breakfast,

[00:03:44] Tilly: Sometimes.

[00:03:45] Tilly: but not very often, actually, although when you listen to this we'll be gone past Christmas, we're coming up to Christmas now, we're a week away from Christmas, every year Boxing Day. family, me and my mum and my sister, it's our tradition, we have to have pudding for breakfast on Boxing Day.

[00:04:00] Tilly: So normally it's like, leftover Christmas pudding, or Christmas cake, or Yule Log or whatever, but it's pudding for breakfast on Boxing Day. So that is a sweet breakfast that I have, but always with a coffee to balance it. I'm just outlent this isn't that? I think

[00:04:18] Tilly: it's fair enough that we, In the first month of us having a newborn, we didn't post a pop up. We still recorded, it, which I think is fairly impressive.

[00:04:26] Tilly: But you don't have necessarily the capacity to edit and post it, I think That's

[00:04:30] Tilly: alright. all about being real on here, bubs.

[00:04:36] Week update

---

[00:04:36] Tilly: How's week nine been for you? Yeah, it's been Work's been quite chill, so it's allowed me

[00:04:44] Dan 1: Maybe. She's a lot

[00:04:46] Tilly: more engaging,

[00:04:46] Tilly: so it doesn't just feel like, I've

[00:04:47] Tilly: got

[00:04:49] Dan 1: got an

[00:04:50] Tilly: expensive

[00:04:50] Dan 1: cat.

[00:04:53] Dan 1: Sometimes it does, sometimes it's just like, keep me alive, I demand it.

[00:04:56] Tilly: things. You know, like, oh, cool.

[00:04:59] Dan 1: Now it feels more like I've got a dog, but it's

[00:05:00] Tilly: where it's

[00:05:00] Tilly: like, keep me alive, but I will also give you love back. So

[00:05:05] Tilly: we're progressing closer to human. That's good. Yeah. We'll let you know when we hit human territory.

[00:05:11] Dan 1: can speak.

[00:05:12] Tilly: Oh, That's quite

[00:05:13] Tilly: a while away.

[00:05:13] Dan 1: Yeah. Like I told you, she's getting trained like a dog anyway. hmm, hmm.

[00:05:21] Tilly: a reference to an earlier episode

[00:05:22] Dan 1: That's a reference to an earlier episode, if you

[00:05:25] Tilly: Yeah, Dan wants clickers for, well we're saying no to clickers for dogs, for the dogs but not for babies.

[00:05:31] Dan 1: And

[00:05:31] Tilly: How have I felt this week? It's a few Christmassy things. Bub went to her first panto on Wednesday. My mum's a teacher at a college. And so me, mum,

[00:05:44] Tilly: my pops,

[00:05:45] Tilly: One of my sisters and one of her daughters went

[00:05:49] Tilly: to panto, Cinderella. And

[00:05:51] Tilly: Bubba was really well behaved. the audio there was like really, hit and miss.

[00:05:55] Tilly: At one time, you know, one person would speak really quietly, one person would be like shrieking.

[00:05:59] Tilly: So she had her little

[00:06:00] Dan 1: ear

[00:06:00] Tilly: ear defenders on.

[00:06:02] Tilly: She was a really good girl. She just had her little feed. She had a little look around. She loved the lights.

[00:06:06] Tilly: I enjoyed the panto. I mean, I

[00:06:08] Dan 1: loved It's just

[00:06:09] Tilly: panto. The shitter the better. quite frankly.

[00:06:13] Dan 1: the day

[00:06:13] Tilly: was a nice time with the famalam. And then the day after,

[00:06:17] Tilly: me and Bubz went to my niece Maisie's little Christmas sing a song at school with my sister, which was lovely.

[00:06:23] Tilly: Always quite sweet to see, you know,

[00:06:24] Tilly: a bunch of little five year olds just singing.

[00:06:28] Tilly: Although some of the Christmas songs? I don't know. anymore. They're like modern Christmas songs and I don't get

[00:06:32] Tilly: them.

[00:06:32] Dan 1: I don't remember. It was

[00:06:34] Tilly: Well, I don't remember. because I didn't know if It was a stint stick in my head.

[00:06:38] Dan 1: you know what

[00:06:39] Tilly: must have spilled yogurt on the bubba,

[00:06:41] Dan 1: It was probably where she,

[00:06:44] Tilly: we went to

[00:06:45] Dan 1: enjoyed

[00:06:46] Tilly: fave places, Costco.

[00:06:47] Tilly: It

[00:06:47] Dan 1: all the songs. I

[00:06:49] Tilly: Bubba's first Costco trip.

[00:06:51] Dan 1: it was a great time.

[00:06:53] Tilly: She was a good girl. enjoyed all the samples. Although a lot of the time I can't eat samples, so I get I get one, because it's cake only. We're caking new double samples. And went to Morrison's, another favourite shop of mine.

[00:07:07] Dan 1: Though this week I ordered out and possibly did none. We went to go get the cake and I asked what it was as I picked it up. And they were like fruitcake. picked it up and was like, you can't eat it.

[00:07:17] Tilly: picked it up, I'm like, you can't eat it. And then he just turned to

[00:07:21] Dan 1: And then you just turned to me and you went, I know, I was getting it for you.

[00:07:25] Tilly: so I didn't

[00:07:26] Dan 1: And so I then had that awkward moment

[00:07:27] Tilly: I just turned back and the person just smiled and walked off two samples Yeah, obviously they didn't give a shit. It was like, you got kids and you get free bus fare until they're about five, and then you get a kid who's just turned five or whatever, and you're like, oh yeah, free bus fare.

[00:07:40] Tilly: And they're like, no, I'm five, which is exactly what I did to my mum. Although, you always got to stop for a little bit of food when you go to Costco.

[00:07:50] Tilly: Normally you get the big hot dog, don't you?

[00:07:53] Tilly: You went

[00:07:53] Tilly: for the Chicken bake, or what it was called?

[00:07:54] Dan 1: or something? Chicken Bake Slice? No, I think

[00:07:59] Tilly: you're right.

[00:07:59] Tilly: It's a cylinder.

[00:08:00] Tilly: I very sexy to call it

[00:08:02] Dan 1: right.

[00:08:03] Tilly: a Chicken Cylinder. it

[00:08:07] Dan 1: for you to accept?

[00:08:11] Tilly: Get in my belly. He enjoyed that and I got my standard jacket potato with tuna mayo and beans, which I know can be a controversial mix. A lot of people go tuna and beans. I think it's a great combo. How much was it?

[00:08:24] Tilly: 2.

[00:08:26] Dan 1: 3

[00:08:27] Dan 1: 00. And this, the amount

[00:08:28] Tilly: of

[00:08:29] Tilly: content in It's a huge potato,

[00:08:32] Dan 1: huge

[00:08:33] Tilly: and then you get absolutely loads of topping. I've never managed to finish one. at my hungriest pregnancy days I couldn't finish one. So you always finish it for me, don't you? All right, give Papa the tuna mayo because he's fucking losing

[00:08:46] Dan 1: the knowledge

[00:08:46] Tilly: costco.

[00:08:46] Tilly: He is an absolute perv for tuna mayo. for the costco of tuna mayo. I

[00:08:50] Dan 1: I

[00:08:50] Dan 1: don't know what it is. I remember one day we brought that back, and we

[00:08:53] Tilly: his

[00:08:54] Dan 1: put it on

[00:08:54] Tilly: the

[00:08:54] Tilly: table.

[00:08:55] Dan 1: he just kept running.

[00:08:57] Tilly: like,

[00:08:57] Dan 1: Like, one end of the table to the other end, and his head, like, along the edge

[00:09:02] Tilly: of the table just leaving draw

[00:09:03] Dan 1: marks all over

[00:09:04] Tilly: Um, also went to Rhyme Time on Friday, Beau went to her first Rhyme Time, which was really sweet. Got to, sort of, see some more mums, and do those things. Obviously she's a bit too young to engage with it, but she's sort of, I think she quite enjoys the stimulus.

[00:09:20] Tilly: Lots of sort of like,

[00:09:21] Tilly: toys they throw around,

[00:09:22] Tilly: and little like, jingle

[00:09:23] Tilly: bell rattle things.

[00:09:25] Tilly: Although I think sometimes the noise is a little bit too much for her.

[00:09:28] Tilly: She does like it.

[00:09:29] Reading

---

[00:09:29] Tilly: And you've started reading to her

[00:09:30] Tilly: this week, haven't you?

[00:09:32] Tilly: you've been doing some

[00:09:33] Tilly: Aesop's Fables.

[00:09:35] Dan 1: Yeah, I've been reading the Aesop's Fables, too. I'm quite sure that's going to be enough.

[00:09:40] Dan 1: Yeah, so I've decided that my thing is going to be trying to read storytime

[00:09:44] Tilly: story time

[00:09:45] Dan 1: with her. And so the thing that a lot of

[00:09:47] Tilly: do,

[00:09:49] Dan 1: stories that I've read,

[00:09:50] Tilly: to her are the

[00:09:52] Dan 1: Aesop's Fables,

[00:09:53] Tilly: I quite enjoy them.

[00:09:54] Tilly: they're

[00:09:55] Dan 1: Quite a good thing

[00:09:55] Tilly: to,

[00:09:55] Tilly: read. And they're quite short, which is a good thing to remember, isn't

[00:09:57] Tilly: it? they're almost

[00:09:58] Tilly: a bit too short

[00:09:59] Dan 1: on the time

[00:10:00] Tilly: time currently.

[00:10:01] Dan 1: Because it's literally like,

[00:10:02] Tilly: you open it up and then

[00:10:04] Dan 1: there's only like two pictures, one or two

[00:10:07] Tilly: you read it, in like five minutes, less than

[00:10:10] Dan 1: Two

[00:10:12] Tilly: So one of the things I wanted to talked to our friends about this haven't we, from different friends. is that When you're having a baby. particularly when your friendship group, your friends can often struggle with how to, i guess, connect And support you to, it's not that they don't want to, never been through it before so don't know what you need. Like what's going to be too much and what's going to be, and so a lot of our friends have been like, you know, sorry for not being great.

[00:10:41] Tilly: I didn't really know what to do. I didn't really want to be left alone to support you or what to do really.

[00:10:47] Tilly: And

[00:10:47] Tilly: something we really thought about was it, before we had

[00:10:50] Tilly: Because I know it's weird.

[00:10:53] Tilly: I, I've got experience in the sense, or both have experience, because like

[00:10:57] Tilly: I've got two sisters who've got three kids between them,

[00:10:59] Tilly: so We've had experience supporting people our age. with kids.

[00:11:02] Dan 1: I do also feel like it's, you know, it's a combination of facts.

[00:11:06] Dan 1: Firstly, it's a very weird stupidly British thing of being like, Oh, I'm not going to

[00:11:13] Dan 1: ask

[00:11:13] Dan 1: them because that's an inconvenience.

[00:11:15] Tilly: This is such a different experience than anything else they've had to go through with us in our friendship. Yeah. Cause I know you like, you've

[00:11:23] Tilly: already experienced that in a sense of like when you're, when you lost your

[00:11:27] Tilly: always

[00:11:28] Tilly: don't know how to react. That's

[00:11:30] Tilly: actually make and so you've always said that it's not what, so you kind of know from that experience that actually, when people are going through new times, difficult times, whatever it is, it doesn't actually benefit them for you to stay away, it benefits them for you to, to know that you are there, and for them to know that whatever you, whatever capacity they need you, you are there for them.

[00:11:48] Dan 1: Well it is incredibly isolating, I I think when you, especially when you're the first

[00:11:53] Dan 1: and when

[00:11:54] Dan 1: you're, you know, like I said at the

[00:11:57] Dan 1: beginning, it can just feel like you've got this incredibly fragile cat that you're looking after. And so it's

[00:12:02] Dan 1: nice to at least have people who

[00:12:05] Dan 1: are looking out, even if they don't actually come around, or even if you say, no, I don't want to see you right now.

[00:12:11] Dan 1: It's nice to have people sort of sending messages and be like,

[00:12:14] Dan 1: I hope everything's going all right, as it were.

[00:12:16] Dan 1: the level of interaction.

[00:12:17] Dan 1: like you say, it's,

[00:12:20] Dan 1: everyone

[00:12:20] Dan 1: is a bit like grief in that everyone's going to deal with it differently. Everyone's going to want to be, you know, different types of interaction, the level of interaction.

[00:12:29] Dan 1: You know, I don't really believe that there's anyone out there that's unable to

[00:12:34] Dan 1: to say

[00:12:35] Dan 1: no as it were. I mean, maybe there are, but I feel like

[00:12:39] Dan 1: if you give somebody enough, if you give

[00:12:41] Dan 1: somebody

[00:12:41] Dan 1: enough

[00:12:42] Dan 1: backdoor in the way you ask the way you ask the So that they can

[00:12:45] Dan 1: they don't be

[00:12:47] Dan 1: to answer. always nicer

[00:12:49] Dan 1: to have up

[00:12:49] Dan 1: have asked.

[00:12:50] Dan 1: then it

[00:12:51] Dan 1: might

[00:12:51] Dan 1: might tell you, sorry, I really can't, you know, I'm just too busy or I'm too hectic.

[00:12:55] Dan 1: Or maybe they'll say like in two weeks time or whatever.

[00:12:59] Tilly: Yeah, I think people just,

[00:13:00] Tilly: when it comes to having a baby, I think people worry very easily about overwhelming people because it is obviously such an overwhelming experience in general.

[00:13:07] Dan 1: But I've

[00:13:07] Dan 1: that,

[00:13:07] Dan 1: been seeking to get around because it's just so monotonous. Otherwise, it's just, it's just literally like, there's just such

[00:13:18] Dan 1: list of needs

[00:13:19] Dan 1: needs to be done, and none of it's fun.

[00:13:21] Tilly: like,

[00:13:21] Dan 1: So when people come around like, Oh good, I've got an excuse not to go do a poo pic,

[00:13:27] Dan 1: or

[00:13:27] Dan 1: go, you do the dishwasher, or do

[00:13:29] Dan 1: do a walk or these sorts

[00:13:32] Dan 1: the other one is that

[00:13:33] Dan 1: like, does just feel a like, Okay, what am I

[00:13:36] Dan 1: am I doing today?

[00:13:37] Dan 1: You just

[00:13:39] Dan 1: list off loads of admin

[00:13:42] Dan 1: and you're

[00:13:42] Dan 1: always behind.

[00:13:44] Dan 1: You try and do the same amount of admin before you have

[00:13:47] Dan 1: a baby, now everything takes double the time, so when, when people come out, say, Ah, phew, I can

[00:13:53] Dan 1: off that job.

[00:13:55] Tilly: you know, we are sociable people, we enjoy having people over.

[00:13:59] Tilly: It's not like you have to host them massively, you might make them a cup of tea or give them a biscuit or something, but no one's expecting much.

[00:14:06] Dan 1: And if you do think you are

[00:14:07] Dan 1: going

[00:14:07] Dan 1: to be in the way,

[00:14:09] Dan 1: because people say

[00:14:09] Dan 1: Oh, I don't want to be in the

[00:14:11] Dan 1: Don't just sit on my sofa,

[00:14:13] Dan 1: get up and do my dishwasher.

[00:14:14] Dan 1: People always say, like,

[00:14:15] Dan 1: say, do me a 15

[00:14:18] Dan 1: minute job and I'll be

[00:14:19] Dan 1: incredibly grateful if you just

[00:14:21] Dan 1: get around. It was like,

[00:14:21] Dan 1: want to

[00:14:22] Dan 1: Oh, look, I don't want to be in your way.

[00:14:24] Dan 1: I'll stay

[00:14:24] Dan 1: hour

[00:14:26] Dan 1: and I'll

[00:14:26] Dan 1: help you out by doing the job. You've

[00:14:27] Dan 1: You've got minutes

[00:14:28] Dan 1: of my time. What is it? I could give you. People,

[00:14:30] Dan 1: So

[00:14:30] Dan 1: many,

[00:14:31] Tilly: Too fair. All My friends have asked that.

[00:14:35] Tilly: I'm just not very good at accepting that. They're always I do? Can I run the hoover around? And I'm like, no, no, it's fine, it's fine.

[00:14:42] Tilly: Because I feel bad accepting

[00:14:43] Tilly: I'm just not very good at accepting it. So we probably could have had a lot more things done for us.

[00:14:47] Tilly: To a certain degree. I want to

[00:14:48] Tilly: enjoy the time with them, I want them to sit and just. Keep you company, and have a chat. I don't really want them to go

[00:14:54] Dan 1: a dishwasher, put

[00:14:55] Tilly: or what.

[00:14:56] Tilly: far longer. It's also kind of what's reached them a lot. Yeah, but I think we know,

[00:15:03] Tilly: I think, I guess, we're now better prepared when our friends, because we've got friends who are expecting in February, and obviously they're not, they don't live near, but when we do go see them we know what's helpful,

[00:15:15] Tilly: I suppose.

[00:15:15] Dan 1: Yeah.

[00:15:16] Tilly: So, you know, when we go

[00:15:17] Tilly: visit them, we'll be like, okay,

[00:15:19] Tilly: why don't you go like for an hour Or something and we can look after the bugs or we can Yeah. Or bring you, you know, or

[00:15:26] Dan 1: that's the other thing.

[00:15:27] Dan 1: Food. Just bring somebody some nice food.

[00:15:31] Dan 1: That's what I

[00:15:32] Tilly: did for my siblings, wasn't it?

[00:15:33] Tilly: Yeah. So every time my sisters had kids When I go see them

[00:15:36] Tilly: for the first time with the baby, I always bring them a bag full of meals that I've prepped for their freezer. So it might be like a load of lasagnas, or cottage pies, or I think one of my sisters did a massive roll of cookie dough, so she could just slice the slice up and make a biscuit for herself in the oven every time she wanted it. And like, a couple of boxes of tea, and biscuits and things. Because,

[00:15:55] Tilly: even I'll just,

[00:15:56] Tilly: before we had, so, I was just, aware of actually,

[00:16:00] Tilly: sorry, I'm just not going to be able to pronounce your name. It's just when I'm in the conversation, it's difficult.

[00:16:04] Dan 1: So we're just going to use the next, okay.

[00:16:08] Tilly: And whether, you know, when you're on a diet, even if you're not tired from like a baby just in general for when you're overwhelmed with work or

[00:16:14] Tilly: whatever it is, the last thing you want to think about

[00:16:17] Tilly: is

[00:16:18] Tilly: cooking, yourself food, and that's actually when you need to be sustained, you need a good meal.

[00:16:21] Dan 1: Yeah.

[00:16:23] Tilly: So

[00:16:23] Tilly: that's my for people. If you're going over, bring a dinner for them

[00:16:26] Tilly: And

[00:16:27] Tilly: around.

[00:16:28] Dan 1: that you

[00:16:31] Tilly: if you've got friends like me, who's gonna say, no, no, no,

[00:16:34] Dan 1: just fucking do a job you don't need that much help before.

[00:16:40] Tilly: Yeah, like my mum's, sly sometimes when she comes around.

[00:16:42] Tilly: Like, she'll come around And I'll go I'll go do something for whatever reason. I can't remember, I popped the shop, so I've gone upstairs to, I don't know, have a poo or something. I'll come downstairs and she's cleaned my kitchen for me, or she's done the dishwasher, even when I said don't, don't do it. Yeah. And I'm always eternally grateful for that.

[00:16:56] Dan 1: job. Yeah.

[00:16:58] Tilly: Because She knows I'm not very good at accepting it as well,

[00:17:00] Tilly: because she's the

[00:17:00] Dan 1: the same. Well, I don't think there are many British

[00:17:03] Dan 1: people that will be like, yes, clear my house, give me the chairs, bye. Yeah. So, so think of jobs that you can do without much direction. Like, you can probably, and being reloaded it, you might just not be

[00:17:14] Tilly: in Well, you can just look through the cupboard, it's not hard, it's just Yeah,

[00:17:16] Dan 1: can't, at least you've restacked it, and I've now only got to put away a quarter of

[00:17:20] Tilly: able to put away

[00:17:21] Tilly: Pots.

[00:17:22] Dan 1: because you couldn't find a few items or whatever. Yeah, like

[00:17:25] Tilly: Yeah, and like, when you're on your way over, it'll be like, can I get anything from the shop for you? Like, do you need a pint of milk, or some juice, or bread, or whatever it is.

[00:17:33] Dan 1: Yeah.

[00:17:34] Tilly: But I do get why people are nervous about it. Also, not everyone's actually bothered by babies. They're just a bit awkward because they don't really know what to do with babies. Because they're sort of like, ooh, don't really like babies. They don't really know what to do in a situation. It's not something they can connect on or understand. for me, Like, I don't know. Yeah, it is, but I think you just And it's an important moment to them and Yeah, I agree. And that's That's very much how I am, but not everyone is like that, not everyone understands things in the same way as that, they can be like I really love this person but right now

[00:18:09] Tilly: They're not quite this good person and I don't know what to give them.

[00:18:12] Dan 1: I think if you care about the person, new that's happened that they really care about. And if they also care about you,

[00:18:21] Dan 1: to share that

[00:18:22] Dan 1: they definitely want to share that with you.

[00:18:24] Dan 1: So

[00:18:24] Dan 1: even if you don't get it, even if you don't enjoy it, or even if it's not your kind of thing,

[00:18:30] Dan 1: just

[00:18:30] Dan 1: go with the,

[00:18:32] Dan 1: the intent. of

[00:18:34] Dan 1: learning what it is

[00:18:36] Dan 1: they now like.

[00:18:37] Dan 1: If someone's your friend,

[00:18:38] Dan 1: you want understand

[00:18:40] Dan 1: understand their

[00:18:40] Dan 1: their things. I have friends,

[00:18:44] Dan 1: I, you know, talk about things that I really

[00:18:46] Dan 1: don't care

[00:18:46] Dan 1: about, and I will, I will entertain it for a brief

[00:18:48] Dan 1: amount period, I feel like

[00:18:50] Dan 1: it's the same thing, where you to go around, and you want to share in this person.

[00:18:55] Dan 1: new,

[00:18:57] Dan 1: what

[00:18:58] Dan 1: is

[00:18:58] Dan 1: effectively

[00:18:58] Dan 1: a

[00:18:59] Dan 1: part of their life. So you

[00:19:01] Dan 1: don't

[00:19:02] Dan 1: babies, or don't

[00:19:04] Dan 1: what

[00:19:04] Dan 1: do it.

[00:19:04] Tilly: But I think that takes quite a lot of self awareness.

[00:19:06] Tilly: Yeah, I guess. And, you know, they've all got their own lives as well, their own stresses and their own things going on. They might have stuff that's, you know,

[00:19:13] Tilly: Before we know, like someone could have, the shit could have really hit the fan in their life, just as

[00:19:17] Tilly: Bubz was born.

[00:19:19] Tilly: And They're trying to deal with their shit, and it's not going to be top of their priority, even though they can really care and love you.

[00:19:24] Tilly: just because it's really important, to us. Just as,

[00:19:26] Tilly: you know, just like, it's, something really big and important to them, that maybe it's a positive, maybe it's a negative.

[00:19:33] Dan 1: Yeah, I do try and remember that. .

[00:19:34] Tilly: I can't actually see my nipple so I'm She's just

[00:19:38] Dan 1: She's roughly on it. She's

[00:19:40] Tilly: fanning about, she's fanning some out Oh there we

[00:19:45] Dan 1: Oh yeah, back on the net.

[00:19:47] Dan 1: Moonbeams feeding away.

[00:19:49] Dan 1: So yeah, I guess to really

[00:19:51] Dan 1: always ask, there's no harm in asking. You ask, make sure you do give them a way to say no.

[00:19:57] Dan 1: they need to.

[00:19:58] Dan 1: And go around

[00:20:00] Dan 1: the, it

[00:20:01] Dan 1: can be.

[00:20:02] Dan 1: A new parent

[00:20:03] Dan 1: could be quite isolating, so make sure you have enough time to connect

[00:20:08] Dan 1: with

[00:20:08] Dan 1: It's then

[00:20:10] Dan 1: because that's quite important.

[00:20:11] Dan 1: get away with

[00:20:13] Dan 1: also,

[00:20:13] Dan 1: job sometimes. Yeah,

[00:20:14] Dan 1: think if

[00:20:15] Dan 1: get away with doing a job for them.

[00:20:17] Tilly: Yeah, I think if,

[00:20:18] Tilly: you're someone who is about to have a baby or in that process there, I think

[00:20:21] Tilly: as far as, possible, and it's hard, you don't know how you're going to feel after a baby's born, because you, especially if it's your first, you've never gone through it before,

[00:20:27] Tilly: but I think as far as, possible, if

[00:20:28] Tilly: you

[00:20:28] Tilly: can,

[00:20:29] Tilly: maybe say to your friends beforehand how you want to be supported, there's nothing wrong with that.

[00:20:33] Tilly: Yeah. Someone who's gone through, something before and you go, actually, you know, when I'm really tired or I'm stressed or I'm overwhelmed,

[00:20:38] Tilly: this is actually what I need like, I'm someone who needs to be left alone, or I'm someone who needs to have that sort of just,

[00:20:43] Tilly: a little bit of text contact, or phone calls whatever it is. And you don't have to change your mind.

[00:20:48] Tilly: when the baby's born if that's not how you feel.

[00:20:51] Tilly: But,

[00:20:51] Tilly: do you know what? Pups is on the way. Afterwards. Can you give me a couple of days

[00:20:57] Tilly: to acclimatise,

[00:20:58] Tilly: please reach out and I'll let you know when I'm ready to see you. Or

[00:21:01] Tilly: Oh yeah,

[00:21:01] Tilly: Like

[00:21:02] Dan 1: like that,

[00:21:03] Dan 1: first week, you're probably not going to want to see them again,

[00:21:05] Dan 1: but again, it's their own.

[00:21:07] Dan 1: Exactly. It's unlikely that in their first week they're going

[00:21:10] Tilly: sort of putting that groundwork down, just like, you know, we try in a relationship to be like, you know, these things are probably going to change and, you know, being prepared for that. Your relationship

[00:21:19] Tilly: with your friends is going to change, all your relationships.

[00:21:20] Tilly: are going to change because suddenly the most important thing in your world has changed.

[00:21:24] Dan 1: Yeah.

[00:21:25] Tilly: Whereas

[00:21:25] Tilly: before, you were the most important, thing in your life, or your partner was the most important thing in your life. you now

[00:21:31] Tilly: tiny

[00:21:31] Tilly: human.

[00:21:32] Tilly: to look after who is the center of your world.

[00:21:34] Tilly: And I think

[00:21:34] Tilly: also being like to your friends,

[00:21:36] Tilly: letting them know, because they probably have realized, but it's not, there's nothing wrong with telling someone something they already know. It's being like, actually, I'm

[00:21:44] Tilly: probably going to

[00:21:45] Tilly: I probably a shit friend

[00:21:47] Tilly: so

[00:21:47] Tilly: for a couple of months, because I'm not going to have much

[00:21:50] Tilly: for the

[00:21:51] Tilly: left in my, you know,

[00:21:52] Tilly: busy and learning and talking

[00:21:54] Tilly: my heart, whatever, to give to you. Because

[00:21:57] Tilly: going to

[00:21:57] Tilly: so, well,

[00:21:58] Tilly: No,

[00:21:59] Tilly: busy, and

[00:21:59] Tilly: I'll be

[00:22:00] Tilly: learning, and tired, that I'm sorry if I don't touch base with you for a couple of months. Please, if something is important, or you need my support, do contact me. Because I know, I've had friends come to me for the past few months, and they've, and I've been like, oh, I

[00:22:12] Tilly: didn't

[00:22:12] Tilly: like, oh, I

[00:22:12] Tilly: know you'd gone through that, because they'd not wanted to bother me.

[00:22:15] Tilly: be deaf. Which I, I totally think is actually sort

[00:22:18] Tilly: I totally get and appreciate, but actually, I still want to be there for my friends.

[00:22:21] Tilly: I still just not have the competency to ask them if they're okay, as much, at the moment.

[00:22:26] Tilly: deaf in

[00:22:26] Tilly: some ways,

[00:22:27] Tilly: they're not okay, and I still want to be there, and I'm still, I would still drop everything to give support if they needed me.

[00:22:32] Dan 1: So

[00:22:32] Tilly: friend needed me to come stay with them for a couple of days, I would go there, I would just bring Tso with me. Because that's what they needed. You know, I still want to be there, but I just might not necessarily ask them as much at the moment. So, I think as well. Because you don't want to lose your goodness.

[00:22:46] Dan 1: No.

[00:22:47] Tilly: And like all relationships, It's got your friends in

[00:22:49] Tilly: the relationship. You know, you've had

[00:22:51] Tilly: and it's changing the relationship, you you've had friends that you've had to sort of have, communication with over the past few months, because maybe they've not

[00:22:59] Tilly: given you what you wanted them to give you or they didn't understand what you wanted. Yeah. And

[00:23:05] Tilly: that's just a learning. curve.

[00:23:06] Dan 1: Yeah, I think, like, the first person to come around was Nick, and he He, you know, while he hasn't had his own kid, his sister has, and so he's

[00:23:15] Dan 1: He's very, he's very open.

[00:23:16] Dan 1: understanding of what it's like.

[00:23:18] Dan 1: So he did just want

[00:23:19] Dan 1: to

[00:23:19] Dan 1: come around, see the baby,

[00:23:21] Dan 1: like on me,

[00:23:22] Dan 1: you know, and

[00:23:24] Dan 1: he he did ask,

[00:23:25] Dan 1: you know, if there was anything to do, stuff like

[00:23:28] Dan 1: and I

[00:23:28] Dan 1: think the right

[00:23:30] Dan 1: right way to do about it, and just give people to say no, but

[00:23:35] Dan 1: a you're the

[00:23:38] Dan 1: definitely try

[00:23:38] Dan 1: and,

[00:23:39] Dan 1: if you're the person having the baby, reach

[00:23:42] Dan 1: say, to your friends and kind of say, Look,

[00:23:45] Dan 1: I'd like,

[00:23:46] Dan 1: these

[00:23:47] Dan 1: are my new expectations, almost, of friendship.

[00:23:49] Dan 1: And

[00:23:50] Dan 1: the other way,

[00:23:51] Dan 1: and your

[00:23:52] Dan 1: friend has just had a baby,

[00:23:55] Dan 1: reach out and

[00:23:56] Dan 1: sort of say, I know this is an incredibly

[00:23:57] Dan 1: new time for you, and you, you know, things are changing all the but let me

[00:24:01] Dan 1: me

[00:24:02] Dan 1: if, know, if there's if it's you need, how you want me to best be your now.

[00:24:08] Tilly: now

[00:24:10] Tilly: I think if you're asking the person who's had the baby, don't ask too much of them, like, I think even that might be too much. be like, this is what I was thinking of doing, is that okay?

[00:24:18] Tilly: Rather than going, what would you want? Because you might not have the brainpower to think about what you want, But you might be like, if I come over next week for an hour, would that suit you?

[00:24:26] Tilly: And they're just, yes or no answer. So that might be all they can give you, because they're having a really tough time. we had it fairly easy, not other. Yeah, we had a bit of issues with feeding and stuff, and there's the standard things of acclimatising to not much sleep and stuff, but actually we had a pretty good time, can't complain. Yeah. Whereas people have a really rough time at the beginning, and they really struggle,

[00:24:47] Tilly: they

[00:24:48] Tilly: might not

[00:24:49] Tilly: be able

[00:24:49] Tilly: to answer that question of what they? need from you.

[00:24:52] Tilly: it, and it's okay?

[00:24:54] Tilly: think going, this is what I

[00:24:56] Tilly: think you might need, or this is what I'd like to give, is that okay? They might go, no, fine. might go, actually that's really nice. Or they might go, do you

[00:25:05] Tilly: know what, I actually

[00:25:06] Tilly: could you come over first thing in the morning, because actually that's when my baby's

[00:25:10] Tilly: easiest.

[00:25:10] Tilly: easiest, probably

[00:25:12] Tilly: and I could probably give you an hour or so then.

[00:25:15] Tilly: I'm

[00:25:15] Tilly: later in the day, you know, she's busier, and I'm just going to be all over the place.

[00:25:18] Tilly: I'm not going to

[00:25:20] Tilly: those new people.

[00:25:21] Tilly: Yeah, we thought that was an important thing to discuss with it and you didn't think about

[00:25:27] Dan 1: don't. I can't, know, just

[00:25:35] Dan 1: would be the same, but I'd have a baby there, if that makes sense. Yeah. It doesn't, it doesn't, it's not really. It's

[00:25:40] Tilly: No, There'll be times where it. is, like yesterday I went to see one of my closest friends, And that was sort of the first, time I'd left. I'd been without Zola. Other than going to the

[00:25:49] Tilly: gym.

[00:25:50] Tilly: That's the longest time I've been away from her.

[00:25:52] Tilly: Yeah.

[00:25:55] Tilly: Because I sort of said to my friends, we said we wanted to meet up, before she, she goes for Christmas.

[00:25:59] Tilly: you

[00:26:00] Tilly: And I was like, well, would you like me to bring you today? would you like it just to be me?

[00:26:03] Tilly: Because I'm also aware that, once you have a baby, you kind of always assume you should bring the baby. And actually, your parents might not want that. They might want some time with you alone. And that's fine as well.

[00:26:11] Dan 1: Yeah, that's quite important because otherwise,

[00:26:13] Tilly: Like,

[00:26:15] Dan 1: like

[00:26:15] Dan 1: it's the same with just when I say

[00:26:18] Dan 1: fatty our dog, anyway,

[00:26:20] Dan 1: I, I know that it's

[00:26:22] Dan 1: my job to manage

[00:26:23] Dan 1: that, that is my responsibility. And so there will always be some element of

[00:26:29] Dan 1: my capacity focusing on are they behaving in a way that good as it were.

[00:26:35] Dan 1: And obviously with a baby it's like tenfold, because,

[00:26:40] Dan 1: it's a

[00:26:40] Dan 1: the baby's sleeping, it's the baby crying, do I need to change a nappy, do I need to try and feed it, do I need to, and all these things are obviously going to completely change, like, how much contact

[00:26:48] Dan 1: you then to

[00:26:49] Dan 1: know, to your person that you're with.

[00:26:52] Tilly: Yeah, friend was like, actually, I'd really love to see you by yourself for some more than one time. I was like, absolutely fine, because if

[00:26:58] Tilly: you wanted to give it a proper catch up, you can't do that with a baby doll, like you said, you're not going to be able to concentrate the same way and give your friend the attention they deserve.

[00:27:05] Tilly: And it's not that they don't want to see your child, or don't care, it's just that that's a different it's

[00:27:10] Tilly: good

[00:27:10] Tilly: experience, isn't it?

[00:27:11] Tilly: You still want

[00:27:13] Tilly: so Zoe stayed with you?

[00:27:14] Tilly: and I went home and we had a lovely coffee and a ketchup and that was really, really nice and I really enjoyed it. And then I had to leave because my boobs were getting really sore and I needed to feed her.

[00:27:21] Tilly: we had a good few hours of chatting and it was lovely. Yeah, so

[00:27:26] Dan 1: And that way you can spend longer and you can just pop. Yeah,

[00:27:29] Tilly: And so I think that's, I that's important, to remember because not everyone's going to

[00:27:33] Tilly: care. Well, no, that's not true. It's not that they're not going to care. So. You shouldn't expect everyone's going to want to, you

[00:27:40] Tilly: know, have their baby with you so that they don't want to use their package the whole time.

[00:27:43] Dan 1: you have the baby.

[00:27:45] Tilly: You're still your person before you have the baby.

[00:27:48] Dan 1: Yeah, and I think some people, you know, people can easily forget that, people kind of, I think that goes both ways, you know, sometimes your friends can kind of view you as somebody who's changed or won't want to do these things because you've now had the baby or whatever,

[00:28:04] Dan 1: the

[00:28:04] Dan 1: but at the same time, you kind of need to remember that.

[00:28:09] Dan 1: Your friends may also feel that element of you, if that makes sense, because, like I

[00:28:15] Dan 1: say, you're going to

[00:28:16] Dan 1: be able to have the same conversations or whatever if you're keeping

[00:28:19] Dan 1: your eye on the

[00:28:20] Dan 1: the baby

[00:28:20] Dan 1: baby the whole time.

[00:28:21]

[00:28:21] Tilly: Mean, I think, there's of

[00:28:23] Tilly: yeah, I think

[00:28:25] Tilly: there's lots of things you should, you forget to consider before having a baby. Well forget I guess, you just not wear.

[00:28:32] Dan 1: Yeah.

[00:28:33]

[00:28:51] Highs lows and funnies

---

[00:28:51] Tilly: Highs,

[00:28:55] Dan 1: highs, lows and Lows.

[00:29:01] Tilly: Let's

[00:29:01] Tilly: see. There's been quite a lot of highs this week. It's been quite a nice week. I feel like

[00:29:06] Tilly: I say that every week.

[00:29:06] Tilly: so I don't know. That's really irritating for people to hear. Oh, last

[00:29:11] Tilly: Night was lovely.

[00:29:11] Tilly: We had a lovely bath last night.

[00:29:14] Dan 1: an explosive

[00:29:15] Tilly: Joe had a little bit of explosive sick, didn't you?

[00:29:19] Dan 1: Yeah.

[00:29:19] Tilly: And so

[00:29:20] Tilly: we're like, okay, we better whack her in the bath.

[00:29:23] Tilly: So me and her, have a nice little bath. I mean, she's

[00:29:25] Tilly: got this

[00:29:26] Tilly: light thing that my mum bought, her, which projects sort of light shapes

[00:29:30] Tilly: out onto the ceiling. And it spins, they sort of, move. And she absolutely loves that. she loves lights so much, doesn't

[00:29:35] Tilly: she? she's been really enjoying all the Christmas lights.

[00:29:38] Tilly: And so we turned off the light in the bath, and we're just projecting and moving her in the water

[00:29:42] Tilly: with me, And she was having an absolutely lovely time, and you were pouring warm water over her,

[00:29:45] Tilly: which she. enjoys.

[00:29:48] Tilly: she definitely

[00:29:48] Dan 1: likes.

[00:29:49] Dan 1: But the problem with a bath is that we can't fit in it with her, it's a miniature.

[00:29:54] Dan 1: So there's always going to be some part of her that's out of the bath. And then that part of her is going to feel really cold, so we have to use

[00:30:02] Tilly: it.

[00:30:04] Tilly: She had

[00:30:05] Tilly: her first little hair, wash, little bit

[00:30:07] Tilly: of baby shampoo. She, I think she quite liked having her scalp massaged. So that was lovely. What about you, what was your high?

[00:30:13] Tilly: of the weekend?

[00:30:14] Dan 1: My high of the week.

[00:30:16] Dan 1: I actually quite enjoyed our little, our little trip out on Friday where we went to all the

[00:30:21] Dan 1: different places.

[00:30:21] Tilly: and stuff. Yeah, yeah, it

[00:30:23] Tilly: was quite

[00:30:24] Dan 1: it was quite nice to be going around and doing stuff.

[00:30:28] Tilly: All just normal stuff?

[00:30:29] Tilly: Yeah,

[00:30:29] Dan 1: Yeah, I don't know,

[00:30:31] Dan 1: family like.

[00:30:35] Dan 1: I'm sure in a few years time I'll have to screw with that, be like, it's

[00:30:38] Tilly: actually

[00:30:38] Dan 1: So just screw what you want and stuff. Buy me

[00:30:41] Dan 1: that

[00:30:41] Dan 1: 4, 000 pound

[00:30:43] Tilly: TV,

[00:30:43] Dan 1: GoTV place in

[00:30:44] Dan 1: LA. No

[00:30:46] Tilly: was never like that. when I was a kid. Didn't think you were either.

[00:30:50] Dan 1: Everyone get the note.

[00:30:51] Tilly: in.

[00:30:51] Dan 1: Build up strong momentum on the note. Don't

[00:30:54] Tilly: I hope he didn't get the nose in as a nose.

[00:30:56] Tilly: A face nose. I was like, I don't understand this expression. no.

[00:31:00] Tilly: the nose. Okay, I'll let you carry on. The nose. I know. Yeah, have massive teeth in Portugal. They're ludicrously large. Yeah, and it just,

[00:31:08] Dan 1: just look, and it just, just looks outrageous. I

[00:31:12] Tilly: I have that massive chicken? And I'm more likely to say,

[00:31:14] Tilly: only if

[00:31:15] Dan 1: only if you share it with daddy. Okay, I've got luck. That's must

[00:31:21] Tilly: You're alright.

[00:31:22] Tilly: I have that bag of avocados? Sure. Mum was proud. as well. Okay, well that's nice. That's unexpected. Okay, what's your low been? Let's bring it

[00:31:33] Dan 1: and think of one. Don't

[00:31:34] Tilly: I don't have any particular

[00:31:35] Tilly: low.

[00:31:36] Dan 1: this another week. No, I didn't have a load this week. Thursday?

[00:31:40] Tilly: Alright. So it wasn't like a proper low, but it was like a, for a time. On Thursday, after I got to see Jess. Amazing thing. And like, Zoe had been sick a few times.

[00:31:52] Dan 1: No.

[00:31:53] Tilly: I just pooed a lot more a bit green and I was just like, Oh, I think she's okay, but I'm not sure.

[00:31:58] Tilly: And obviously you know that babies can go bad quite quickly, especially with dehydration. I was a bit so, so, slightly worried. So we called up 111 and they were sort of like, Okay, try and go see a doctor in the next 12 hours. And so we took her in. And it was all, it was all fine. It turns out that, before we were giving her reflux once a day, we didn't realise that baby Gaviscon constipates them slightly, she's only

[00:32:22] Tilly: really been giving them once a day for however long, and we thought, oh, she's just a one pill a day baby, that's fine. And obviously it's that, we stopped taking that because it finished, and since then she has been a little bit sick more often, not crazy amounts, never excessively, but just because we weren't used to it, it seems like. Suddenly, she

[00:32:40] Tilly: was being sick more. And then, also, because we stopped taking the gumscone, she was suddenly pooing more. And, it was a bit green, which turns out was just because she wasn't getting, like, the hind milk, so the fatty milk at the end of the feed. Because I'd been told to keep it between my boobs.

[00:32:55] Tilly: She wasn't getting the end milk.

[00:32:57] Tilly: And so nothing was wrong.

[00:32:58] Tilly: it was just sort of a combination of things, that made it seem like something was.

[00:33:01] Tilly: And so obviously, you can tell these GPs, listen, he was really nice, but obviously they must get really annoyed at the first parents, being like, that's so wrong! He's like, she's absolutely fine.

[00:33:09] Tilly: Basically she just went from being slightly constipated to not being constipated, so now she poos more. And she is going to be a bit sick, because she's not

[00:33:16] Dan 1: not on

[00:33:16] Tilly: reflux medication.

[00:33:18] Tilly: You know, they're saying,

[00:33:20] Tilly: we don't advise you giving that to them

[00:33:21] Tilly: because it does cause constipation, which can increase the chance to colic, and it's not actually solving the reflux. Yeah,

[00:33:28] Dan 1: because.

[00:33:28] Dan 1: all it does is it actually just You know, reflux to a degree, he was saying, is natural, and

[00:33:35] Tilly: formed something.

[00:33:36] Dan 1: Yeah,

[00:33:37] Dan 1: that's the thing that stops it from happening, whatever part in the body it is. And so what actually Gaviscon is, is a coagulant,

[00:33:46] Dan 1: and all it does is just

[00:33:46] Dan 1: thicken up the milk once it hits the belly,

[00:33:50] Dan 1: and so it makes it harder for them to vomit it out, so they're

[00:33:53] Tilly: It was nice

[00:33:54] Dan 1: Yeah, so they end up being constipated. It was nice having your own beer one time a day, baby, though.

[00:34:00] Dan 1: I will say that.

[00:34:01] Dan 1: You just had one absolutely massive shit. We wanted it. one massive shit. And like, you know, filling

[00:34:11] Tilly: that piece on the her neck,

[00:34:13] Dan 1: nappy, so full.

[00:34:15] Dan 1: But

[00:34:15] Dan 1: then you're like, okay, that's that one done for the day.

[00:34:18] Dan 1: Don't have to worry about poo, it's all wee from here,

[00:34:20] Dan 1: whereas now you

[00:34:22] Dan 1: get like lots of little nuggets where you're just like,

[00:34:24] Dan 1: well that was pointless,

[00:34:25] Tilly: a forceful fart that's come up.

[00:34:27] Tilly: Yeah. She likes a good shart.

[00:34:29] Dan 1: Well, definitely not more than three like proper poos, but sometimes you'll end up with just a little nugget in it. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:34:42] Tilly: so I guess that was kind

[00:34:43] Tilly: of my load this week. Yeah, so it's not like an awful load, but there was a point where I was a little bit worried, like, and your brain goes into meltdown or overload or overworry was driving her back and I was Wait, you were calling on Wong because I was vibing.

[00:34:56] Tilly: I think this is

[00:34:57] Dan 1: obviously I didn't

[00:34:57] Tilly: hear her, she's in the

[00:34:58] Tilly: back. And suddenly I'm like,

[00:35:01] Dan 1: oh my god,

[00:35:01] Tilly: is she choked with vomit? Is she dead?

[00:35:04] Dan 1: No,

[00:35:04] Tilly: your brain just goes into the worst scenario instantly. Suddenly going, Solo! You okay? Solo! Trying to look back to see if her foot's moving. She was absolutely fine, she was just asleep. But yeah. I had

[00:35:15] Tilly: I was

[00:35:23] Dan 1: I was very much in the mindset of

[00:35:26] Dan 1: She's fine. We don't need to do. Then you just came in with kind of panicked energy And I was like, okay, no more kind of feeling rough or feeling sleepy You just kind of want to try and get on. And then 1 1 1 hung up on me like three four times While I was trying to do

[00:35:43] Tilly: do, I was sort of, Yeah, 1 1 1 I think,

[00:35:46] Dan 1: I think. I was just

[00:35:48] Dan 1: So between the fact that I was there trying to, to match your energy, well not match your energy but cater to,

[00:35:55] Tilly: to, when I really couldn't

[00:35:57] Tilly: you I didn't

[00:35:58] Tilly: really actually need,

[00:35:59] Dan 1: need,

[00:35:59] Dan 1: to. And then 1 1 1 just

[00:36:02] Dan 1: being shitheads. I've nearly just asked you

[00:36:04] Tilly: just sent you

[00:36:05] Dan 1: you

[00:36:05] Tilly: told you to come down, but I'm

[00:36:07] Dan 1: going to help.

[00:36:09] Tilly: No, and

[00:36:09] Tilly: like, also, I, I, I was fairly sure she was fine. But I was like, it's just not worth the risk.

[00:36:15] Dan 1: that's kind of why I got on board, because it's like, at the end of the day,

[00:36:18] Dan 1: it's an hour out of my day where I'm not really doing that much. Well, two hours out of my day, I'm not really doing that much because I'm, you know, hanging a

[00:36:26] Tilly: a bit

[00:36:26] Dan 1: at a Christmas party.

[00:36:27] Tilly: Yeah.

[00:36:28] Tilly: know, it's not worth that's just how I always feel with her. But when it's with you and me, I'm like, fuck it, we're fine. But with her, I'm just like,

[00:36:36] Tilly: ugh, You'd never forgive yourself if it was something. And So, even though I'm pretty sure it's fine, I'm

[00:36:41] Tilly: just gonna check it.

[00:36:42] Dan 1: Yeah.

[00:36:44] Tilly: Okay, so those are our loans.

[00:36:46] Tilly: funny? I don't

[00:36:48] Tilly: know, she's done a lot of, she's done quite a few explosive poos this week, but that's more sketchy. Funny.

[00:36:54] Tilly: I did quite enjoy her reaction when we were at the panto.

[00:36:57] Dan 1: was doing a lot of stuff, you know what

[00:36:59] Tilly: noise or a clap, she'd sort of do her little starfish thing, you know, she sort of spreads her limbs out and her hand like, Oh,

[00:37:03] Dan 1: hear through, you know, so

[00:37:05] Tilly: So even when she had like the

[00:37:07] Tilly: ear defenders on,

[00:37:08] Dan 1: of becomes

[00:37:08] Tilly: still hear through them, it would just pop. And

[00:37:10] Dan 1: So we were

[00:37:11] Tilly: there was a big change in volume. So she'd go, ah, and just sort of spread her fingers and sort of shrink back in again. And then there was a clap, which was quite funny. And at one point she was on my lap, and this woman was like, oh, you know, what a cute baby. I started doing the intermission. How

[00:37:26] Tilly: old is she? And I was like, oh, she's too

[00:37:28] Dan 1: are fucking serious. Which obviously

[00:37:29] Tilly: I just went, Oh, how are you? And then I just sat there and rolled her eyes. She obviously wasn't what, you know, wasn't actually rolling her eyes, but it was very good timing. So I enjoyed that. So

[00:37:41] Dan 1: was actually,

[00:37:42] Dan 1: either earlier this morning or tonight, so I was there lying in bed

[00:37:48] Tilly: and I

[00:37:49] Dan 1: I was there,

[00:37:49] Tilly: a sexy

[00:37:50] Dan 1: saw a sexy tree, and

[00:37:51] Tilly: like, oh,

[00:37:52] Dan 1: wasn't sure if it was real

[00:37:53] Dan 1: or not,

[00:37:54] Dan 1: And then got woken up to, she'd

[00:37:56] Tilly: she's done a huge poo,

[00:37:57] Dan 1: changed her nappy, so, well, it's definitely

[00:37:59] Tilly: definitely not real.

[00:38:01] Tilly: dream is definitely not real.

[00:38:03] Tilly: Crash dance reality. Is that why you start talking about sex instantly? Well, there's no Yeah.

[00:38:10] Scat chat

---

[00:38:10] Dan 1: Okay, go on, roll on.

[00:38:12] Dan 1: What is this?

[00:38:13] Tilly: It's a little pop pop. Okay. Here have

[00:38:17] Dan 1: Okay, so, here we have one from the Tinternet. When my daughter was about four months old, she had to come to a business brunch with me. It wasn't super formal, but still a

[00:38:30] Tilly: a business

[00:38:31] Dan 1: She was sitting in her car seat on the table, and the client I was meeting with started to wrinkle up his face.

[00:38:37] Dan 1: Then, I spelt Y. I look over, and there was poop coming out of the bottom of the car seat.

[00:38:43] Tilly: I quickly

[00:38:45] Tilly: stairs

[00:38:45] Dan 1: carried the car seat into the bathroom, which was about two feet away from our table. It was then that I realized I did not have wipes, and I did not have a change of clothes. Luckily, I did have a diaper.

[00:38:57] Tilly: For the next 20 minutes,

[00:38:59] Dan 1: my daughter screamed at the top of her lungs, I

[00:39:02] Tilly: I used wet

[00:39:03] Dan 1: towels to try and clean her

[00:39:05] Tilly: it up. Her outfit went

[00:39:05] Dan 1: went into the trash, so bad. For 20 minutes, no one looked.

[00:39:11] Tilly: good sound effect, Yeah, you Yeah, yeah!

[00:39:15] Tilly: Riptastic!

[00:39:15] Dan 1: used wet try and

[00:39:18] Tilly: for the next

[00:39:18] Dan 1: up.

[00:39:18] Dan 1: Her outfit went into the trash, so bad. For 20 minutes,

[00:39:27] Tilly: minutes, there were no

[00:39:27] Dan 1: No one knocked on the door of the restroom. There was only one in this crowded restaurant.

[00:39:32] Dan 1: When I got back to the table with a baby clad only in a diaper and a car seat that had no lining. My client was instant. He said that he kept watching women go up to the bathroom and start to try the handle, look horrified when they heard the screaming, and run back to their tables.

[00:39:50] Dan 1: Now, even if I don't have my baby with me, I have wipes and a chain of clothes in my pocketbook.

[00:39:56] Dan 1: Never again.

[00:39:58] Tilly: again. Aww. Can

[00:40:00] Dan 1: Can

[00:40:00] Tilly: you imagine that?

[00:40:01] Tilly: I can. I can absolutely imagine that. Like, shitting out of the car seat. Yeah. That's savage. Savage. I think it'd be savage if I did, wouldn't you? Like, Yeah,

[00:40:12] Dan 1: had it go into the

[00:40:13] Dan 1: car

[00:40:13] Dan 1: seat,

[00:40:14] Tilly: bad

[00:40:14] Dan 1: not so bad that it then

[00:40:18] Tilly: goes up the other

[00:40:20] Dan 1: side of it,

[00:40:20] Tilly: of But yeah. No. Yeah. Out the bottle. You saving that up for us?

[00:40:27] Dan 1: Oh well, let's call that a day then,

[00:40:30] Tilly: let's Let's go clean that pub up. Yeah.

[00:40:32] Tilly: I'm up.

[00:40:33] Dan 1: that

[00:40:33] Tilly: sharting.

[00:40:34] Tilly: You're a scat. Yeah?

[00:40:37] Dan 1: You look like a meerkat.

[00:40:39] Tilly: She often does, doesn't she? Little surprise face. Yeah.

[00:40:43] Dan 1: No, it just moves her head around.

[00:40:44] Signing off

---

[00:40:44] Dan 1: Alrighty,

[00:40:45] Tilly: Yeah. They're excellent, that control.

[00:40:47] Dan 1: Bye, bye people!

[00:40:49] Tilly: ya

[00:40:49] Ian: Just wait, one momet .

[00:40:51] Dan 1: Hi guys, thank you very much for listening. We really appreciate it. And if you're enjoying it, please let us know by leaving a review or sending us some feedback. The email is blabberingpod at gmail. com. We'd love to hear your stories, any feedback, any news, any thoughts. Also, you can find us on Instagram.

[00:41:14] Dan 1: The handle is Blabbering pod. We're active on there as well. So you could DM us and Yeah, if you've got five seconds, please leave a rating if you've got a bit more Please leave a review the words are very helpful and give us a follow.

[00:41:32]