[00:00:00] Eric Goranson: It's around the house in today's episode. We talk about what's hot and what's not for 2024. What are the hottest things going for your home and what are well, 1990 or two thousands, we're going to talk about everything from paint colors to flooring, to construction methods, that, and so much more today, all about what's hot for 2024.

[00:00:27] Eric Goranson: So if you're thinking about starting a new project, doing a kitchen or bathroom remodel, or just painting. your house. We're going to talk today about what's hot and what's not coming up in this hour of Around the House Show. Now let's get to the program. We got a lot to talk about. When it comes to remodeling and renovating your home, there is a lot to know, but we've got you

[00:00:54] Eric Goranson: covered. This is Around the House. Welcome to the Around the House Show. This is where we help you get the most out of your home through info. [00:01:00] Formation and education. Thanks for joining me today. We've got a fun show ahead because we're gonna be talking about what is hot and what is not for 2024 and what we see coming on this next year.

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[00:01:47] Eric Goranson: Well, today we're going to be talking about what's hot and what is not. And the first thing I wanted to talk to you about today was paint because paint colors have changed. What is hot? What is not? And that is a big one. [00:02:00] You know, still when we're looking at paint colors, you know, as far as sheen goes. A flat or even maybe an eggshell is about as much you're going to see on sheens these days, you know, you'll get a little bit in there depending on what you're doing, but any of those like semi gloss and that stuff way out, that stuff is gone and so that is, that is out.

[00:02:21] Eric Goranson: But those flatter tones are in now color is huge out there. So we're going to say it's really simple. Actually, we're going to say the grays are out this year. They've been out for a couple of years, but they've really gone a different direction. So if you start looking at the 2024 colors of the year, this is the time that they start releasing the colors for next year.

[00:02:43] Eric Goranson: And every paint manufacturer has one out there. So if you look at Benjamin Moore, which is another big brand out there, their color of the year is blue Nova. And Blue Nova is, uh, kind of a blue violet [00:03:00] color, uh, that they say encourages adventure, uh, you know, beckoning everyone to indulge in new experiences.

[00:03:07] Eric Goranson: Yeah, it's just color, so that doesn't really mean much. But really, it is really interesting. They worked with, uh, Aerospace Company, Blue Origin, to announce the color. And, uh, you know, trying to inspire future generations for STEM education and space industry stuff, which is cool. But it is a beautiful blue, so I do like the color.

[00:03:28] Eric Goranson: And, uh, it is definitely one that, uh, you could do a lot of and it really has a good look to it. And, you know, there's these pastels are kind of in right now. And so that's a big one. No. Bear, their color here is Cracked Pepper, which is very similar to the house color that I painted my house a few years ago with Miller Paint.

[00:03:48] Eric Goranson: But this is a soft black, which is a really elevated, timeless, soft black. And, um, it's just really cool that you could put this with almost [00:04:00] any design style. Uh, you can do a lot with that. So, Cracked Pepper is just exactly what you'd think it would be, in that it's just that flat, bold... You know, charcoal black color.

[00:04:11] Eric Goranson: So it is really beautiful and a wonderful color tone to play around inside or outside of your house. Now, Sherwin Williams, they've got their color year, which is upward, which is a really kind of seaside, relaxed blue color. And so, um, I'm not going to get into all the little things that they say in their marketing press release on it, but they're just really taken a really lighter and brighter light.

[00:04:38] Eric Goranson: Light blue color to really create this kind of warm and relaxing space. So it's got a little bit of a gray undertone to it. So it's really that coastal chic style. Um, I think it's a really great color for a kitchen or a bathroom. And, uh, you know, even in a bedroom and accent wall, it's really got that kind of beach look.

[00:04:59] Eric Goranson: It [00:05:00] really goes well with whites and grays. And it's a really cool color there. Now Glidden came out a different direction with their color of the year for 2024 and that is Limitless. Now Limitless is um, you know and Glidden's made by PPG so Glidden's Limitless is kind of a honey beige color. Right? It's not really yellow but it's just kind of got this honey slash beige You know, so it's a really browner versus a yellow, but it's really got that kind of yellow khaki color to it.

[00:05:36] Eric Goranson: And so, um, it's really cool look. And so it's a nice, bright, warm, you know, color you can use kind of anywhere and everywhere. Whether you're painting a kitchen cabinet or bathroom vanity or accent walls, or just an entirely warm room. Um, you really can do that. Um, Anywhere, even including your [00:06:00] ceiling. It's a really great color.

[00:06:03] Eric Goranson: So C2, uh, their paints 2024 color of the year is called thermal, which is really kind of a, a soft blue spring sky color. Um. You know, it's just a pale with a little bit of blue punch to it. You know what I mean? Just a little bit. Um, it's a really cool color. So, um, you can take a look at that. Uh, but C2 thermal is their color and it's just a crisp, bold blue.

[00:06:35] Eric Goranson: It's just looks like that sky up there. And then Valspar came out with their color of the year as well, which is renew blue. You're starting to see a theme here. These kind of pastelly more sophisticated than your fifties. You know, surfer turquoise, but, um, these are just, um, real that the renew blue is a, is a cool cools.

[00:06:57] Eric Goranson: And I like it color. And [00:07:00] so it's just a really nice, bright, balanced blue. Um, kind of like a. Grade C green. If I was going to try to paint that color in your head, um, it is really cool. And it's just going to be a really classic color. So renew blue is that one there. And then of course there's HGTV home by Sherwin Williams.

[00:07:21] Eric Goranson: Uh, persimmon is theirs and, um. This is a bright color, so they went bold on this one. So it is, um, their quote is, Persimmon balances the energy of tangerine with a grounded neutral undertone. So this is a living room kitchen kind of color. It is bold. It's almost getting into that salmon color. But, uh, it's definitely in that terracotta kind of shade colors.

[00:07:50] Eric Goranson: But it is bright, it is bold, and there's a lot to it. Now the next one here, a Dutch boy, which to me in my area, I don't see a [00:08:00] lot of Dutch boy paint. So that might be something in your area. So I want to make sure and cover it here. Uh, they have one called iron side, which is a really gray brown green color, which is really cool.

[00:08:12] Eric Goranson: Um, it is definitely a warm, comfortable, natural color. Um, almost an army green, but more sophisticated than that. So it's a browner army green, uh, is how I would do it as far as, uh, You know, uh, an explanation of the color and, um, they're trying to create, their quote was creating a space for wellness is a driving factor in everyday life, which has nothing to do with paint colors to me.

[00:08:44] Eric Goranson: And then, uh, Minwax even has a color of the year, uh, Bay blue. Which is really cool. And, uh, that is a nice color. It is very bright. Uh, and that is the ones you're looking at there. When we come back, we'll talk about Miller paints here as well. [00:09:00] And really, the reason why I'm bringing these up is I want to see if I can have you just experience all these new colors.

[00:09:06] Eric Goranson: Because the 22 different tones of gray. Are over and now you're starting to see so many other color things that are in surfaces that I want to talk about, including sinks and toilets and things like that. So we come back. We'll talk more about that about color inspiration. And then we're going to get into our deeper discussion of what's hot and what's not.

[00:09:28] Eric Goranson: But I thought we'd start out with color today around the house. Be right back after these important messages.

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[00:10:08] Eric Goranson: Welcome back to the round the house show. This is where we help you get the most out of your home through information and education. Thanks for joining me today. We've been talking about what's hot. What's not coming up into 2024. Looking ahead. What are the design trends? What is coming in? Style, what is going out of style?

[00:10:24] Eric Goranson: And we've been talking about paint colors. The first thing right now. And the last one I wanted to talk about here is, you know, in color trends, we were just talking about all the different. You know official paint of the year from the different brands and the last one here is a northwest tradition here Miller paint in my area has been around since 1890.

[00:10:42] Eric Goranson: So there's somebody that's a regional paint company And not one of the national ones you see in like a home improvement store or national chain But they have their color trends, which is interesting. So mushroom is their uh color of the year But they also came out with their color trends for 2024 and [00:11:00] so um They've come out with this collection of colors, which are really, you know, kind of earthy hues like, um, greens and brown.

[00:11:10] Eric Goranson: Uh, stuff you'd see kind of like on a, you know, reminiscent of forest floor. And then they've got some other stuff that's, uh, like freshwater is another one that looks like, uh, a really blue freshwater. They've got bronzite, which is a, uh, a, a bright yellow. And then they have one that is kind of a taupe y brown that's called chocolate opal.

[00:11:32] Eric Goranson: So anyway, they've got all these different colors that are kind of around in that same family for use in a Roger house. So there's some really cool. You know, like the bronzite is a greenish gold, uh, that just has a, uh, just a nice natural glow to it. And, um, boy, the, the fresh water is the same kind of thing, just a really clear blue green that is nice as well.

[00:11:55] Eric Goranson: And so there's a lot of cool things you can do with these colors and they're just absolutely beautiful. [00:12:00] The brown rafter is a chalky brown that looks really cool too. So, uh, again, these are all different colors that are coming in on the color of the year. So. Really when you start to see stuff with these color of the years is those really what drive color.

[00:12:13] Eric Goranson: And what I mean by that is you'll see these colors come out and then all of a sudden you'll see the new products come out at the stores of, you know, bed, bath and beyond type of stuff. But now, you know, with those guys gone, you would see now a target and those kinds of things where those colors really influence what you see for the next year's products.

[00:12:30] Eric Goranson: And so when you walk into. You know, those housewares place, you're going to see those different colors, which is kind of fascinating. But, uh, anyway, there's really good stuff going along here. And, you know, when it comes to paint too, when it comes to kitchens, you're seeing, um, more wood grain now than you used to, uh, painted has been popular for 15 plus years, and now you're starting to get back into the lighter woods again.

[00:12:52] Eric Goranson: And so those are really starting to come back into that. So something to think about, you know, um, where, you know, those [00:13:00] painted wood cabinets are, are definitely not as hot as they were. You know, 10 years ago and those no more kind of European wood tones. They are just really hot right now. So next up, let's talk about flooring.

[00:13:15] Eric Goranson: What's hot and what's not, you know, uh, for the last geesh, seven or eight years, luxury vinyl plank has been super hot. And I think that is going its way out the door. And I think there's a couple of reasons why one is there's better materials that are starting to come out, but two, we're starting to see that they.

[00:13:33] Eric Goranson: A lot of them aren't holding up like they thought they would. I mean, I've got a name brand product in my house and I like these people. They're great people, but the, uh, it's just not holding up. It has started to separate with higher traffic, the, uh, bull nose on the stair treads, I'm on my second set.

[00:13:50] Eric Goranson: I've already warrantied one set, uh, with me, uh, you know, us and the dogs running around and just traffic up and down the stairs. Um, it's not held up. And so you're seeing, [00:14:00] um, luxury vinyl planks kind of going to the wayside. You're going to see more of the engineered hardwoods. Now you're going to see that where they're using some great veneers.

[00:14:10] Eric Goranson: You're going to see a lot of different, you know, hardwood, three quarter inch raw, hard, you know, regular hardwood floors. Those are really coming back. But, uh, I tell you what, the, uh, luxury vinyl plank is on its way out. Kind of like what we saw with no offense pergo, but the pergo came out and that was hot for a while.

[00:14:27] Eric Goranson: And then everybody got away from the laminate and went to the. Luxury vinyl and now you're going to see I think the next step is going to be going into the engineered hardwood So you can still get the quick install but just a higher grade better quality engineered hardwood So you'll still have that where you can click it together.

[00:14:45] Eric Goranson: It's just those plastics I think are really gonna be out you're gonna see less and less of that I think the natural products coming in are gonna be the next latest trend Now what's really hot and it's a new material coming out now and it's been available for a number of years but it's really starting to [00:15:00] take off is the large format tile.

[00:15:03] Eric Goranson: So it used to be that a 12x24 tile was your large tile and now that's your small tile. You're starting to see 48x48 inch tiles. You're seeing 72x48 large format sheets. And these larger format tiles are so cool. And with today's smart stuff, you know, smart products, you get out there with the, the grouts that you don't have to seal or clean that don't get bashed in that way.

[00:15:32] Eric Goranson: And by reducing those grout lines, you're making it easier to maintain. And you're telling a bigger story by these. And unless you're in some place, uh, like a tropics or something like that. One of the other things that are really hot underneath all these large format tiles is really using, uh, heated tile floors in those spaces.

[00:15:52] Eric Goranson: Because just taking that and making that into a place that, uh, gives you that soft warmness is so, so [00:16:00] huge. So... That's another thing outside of the, uh, the tiles is heated. Flooring is hot. Not doing a heated tile system in there is, is something that you're seeing less and less. I'm even seeing some people put it on their countertops and stuff.

[00:16:15] Eric Goranson: So they have a warm countertop to work on in cold climate. So you're seeing a lot of Different things happening with that. And the other thing that's really going away is you're seeing less and less of the real stone on floors in much more of the porcelain that has that high definition print on it.

[00:16:32] Eric Goranson: You know, some of these new wood floors that you're seeing out there that are tile that are stamped from tile, uh, you know, stamped from wood to be the tile. When you look at it and walk on it, you can't tell that you're not walking on a hardwood floor. You're looking for the grout lines, but I tell you what.

[00:16:47] Eric Goranson: The stuff is absolutely amazing. And so, um, be very careful what you see out there. Now, there are a lot of different places to get tile out there and you just need to know what you're looking for. There are a lot of [00:17:00] budget places. And one of the tricks and tips that I just want to give you real quick when you're buying tile is be careful of the cheap, cheap stuff, because when you're looking at tile, it gets interesting, some of the lower quality stuff, you end up having stuff that has very inconsistent size, thicknesses and some warpage to it, whereas they got fired, you see things kind of twist and warp, which makes much harder to have a flat level floor.

[00:17:25] Eric Goranson: So make sure you're getting a higher quality tile and that you're measuring it when you're taking a look at it, you're going through it, make sure that it's all Really square and even sized because some of these things, um, are cranked out at the factory, but they're cranked out so quickly that you have very irregular shapes, which as somebody who is a novice tile setter, it makes your job considerably harder.

[00:17:48] Eric Goranson: So make sure you get better quality tile. It does make a difference and it does give you much more of a finished look because you don't have those in, you know, that. inconsistent sizing [00:18:00] and you'll have a corner that's warped up or whatever. So really check those tiles, sort them. And if you're getting them at a cheap place, get a little extra so you can go through and really gauge and see what size they are so that you've got the right ones for the right job.

[00:18:13] Eric Goranson: And there'll be ones that you're going to look at and go, wow, that's a little bit off and it's going to make for uneven corners and things like that. When we come back, I got more tips for you for what's hot. And what's not just as soon as around the house returns.[00:19:00]

[00:19:09] Eric Goranson: Welcome back to the around the house show. This is where we help you get the most out of your home through information and education. Thanks for joining us today. Hey, if you're not a member of the around the house insider, head over there and join it's four bucks a month. You get to all of our back catalog that we've got out there as well as a.

[00:19:27] Eric Goranson: Inside look at who I am. I sat down with Jeff Tracy, the cowboy cook, and he interviews me of how I got to be doing home improvement and all the, uh, crazy stories and stuff that happened all the way along. I, of course, I don't tell every story, so there'll be more for another episode, but we really jump into that history and, uh, some wild stories to be had there.

[00:19:46] Eric Goranson: So that's not part of the regular radio show and podcast. That's part of those exclusive episodes over there. We've been talking about, uh, 2024 design tips, what's hot and what's not. And so we're just talking about, you know, [00:20:00] flooring and stuff and how, um, really real stone floors are not as hot as he used to be.

[00:20:06] Eric Goranson: And now the, the large format porcelain slab for floors are really hot. And that's where it's going for many people. And I wanted to get into construction methods here. And since we're talking tile, let's talk a little bit about this. You know, uh, the alternative old school ways of doing shower systems are not hot anymore.

[00:20:27] Eric Goranson: So, uh, you know, the people in California, they're doing the hot mop shower pans. Those are out, especially doing the, uh, just the, uh, drywall and then putting a waterproof. Coating on it and a tile over the top of that in a shower. All those kind of old and outdated ways of doing things are out right now.

[00:20:45] Eric Goranson: And using the newer systems out there that are waterproof that come with guarantees from a factory are definitely in. So your, your Wheaties, the Schluters, the Ardexes, all those. different systems out there that you put in your shower system. Those are [00:21:00] super hot out there. And, uh, you're seeing a lot of people changing over to using those because one, that tile setter that's doing the job, if he knows what he's doing, he's still on his warranty where, you know, if you're dealing with a manufacturer and you're certified and trained, they're going to give you a leak proof warranty on it.

[00:21:18] Eric Goranson: From the manufacturer side. And so you've got a partner with your system versus you being stuck going. Wow, I must have had a nick or a hole in that membrane or tar guy didn't put enough tar down or didn't catch the corner right or whatever. And so those are some of the real issues that you're seeing in construction with showers.

[00:21:38] Eric Goranson: So be really careful out there. And if somebody is not waterproofing that shower before they put stuff in or using a waterproof system, that's going to be a problem and you're going to be doing it again. Now, here's the next one, which is interesting. You're starting to see this more and more building code is out as a standard.

[00:21:54] Eric Goranson: You are seeing so many builders now that are decided to really go the extra mile and go well [00:22:00] beyond building code. You know, you have to think of building code is the absolute minimum that you should do. To get it where the government signs off on this place is safe or it's well constructed. And so many people now are really starting to take in high performance homes.

[00:22:15] Eric Goranson: They're talking about, uh, putting in higher performance building materials instead of just doing a tar paper, they're doing a house wrap. You're starting to see a lot more in building science. Now this is stuff that you see just exceeding building code across the marketplace. So then you're starting to see it kind of everywhere.

[00:22:33] Eric Goranson: You're starting to see really a building code, of course, jumping in and saying, Hey, you need to have a energy recovery ventilator in this house that's required. But you're also seeing guys going out and really doing things above and beyond. And so what you're starting to see is people building exterior walls with two by sixes or two by eights.

[00:22:53] Eric Goranson: With offset studs that are on 24 inch off centers and um, you've making [00:23:00] this thicker wall, but the, there's no, you know, you think about it, a two by four stud and a wall is a place that there's no insulation. And so the wood is now conducting energy through that space. So what you're seeing now is people going in and building homes where they've got a stud, like a two by four stud and they're offset.

[00:23:15] Eric Goranson: So you could have insulation in between those areas. So you don't have any kind of a piece of wood that goes around except in the corners there. Where you have a piece of wood that's really, um, blocking or allowing energy to go through in between that because if you take a thermal imaging scanner, for instance, you can see where every stud is because that is letting more, you know, it doesn't have insulation there.

[00:23:38] Eric Goranson: You just have the wood. And so you get a lot more heat or cooling transfer through that. So that's really where the big part is of this is that when people build those offset walls on the studs, you've got a piece of insulation. That's going through everything. So, um, you have a much more efficient house.

[00:23:53] Eric Goranson: And so you're starting to see people using engineered studs building 24 on center and trying to figure out ways to [00:24:00] get less studs in a wall all while making a strong engineered house, but having more insulation. Um, and even taking some insulation board and putting it on the outside of the house before the siding, depending on your climate zone and what you've got going, you're starting to really see these new levels of smart building where you're creating much more energy efficient homes.

[00:24:22] Eric Goranson: And that ends up being pretty good when you can do that. And you can get that dialed in like that. That ends up being something that's very efficient. And now I, in all markets, I'm not sure out there, there's a lot of people out there that are putting in three and four pane windows where you've got all those different panes for energy efficiency.

[00:24:37] Eric Goranson: And I'm seeing some of those out there, but, um, they don't really pay for themselves in my marketplace. But, uh, places where it's super hot places where it's super cold, we have more of a temperate climate here. So it just doesn't pay off as much after most people don't even go into triple pane glass out here just because it's not cost effective, but there is ways it will [00:25:00] save you, but you're not going to, it's hard to get that money back from the extra expense of going to that triple pane.

[00:25:04] Eric Goranson: And so usually the homes that you see triple pane around here are the ones that have had a good window salesperson or somebody that was really trying to make a energy efficient home for you. Alright, the next material that I'm seeing that is on the out is vinyl siding. That is something that you're seeing less and less and less of.

[00:25:22] Eric Goranson: You know, it's not been a hot market out here for us on the west coast in many places, but, uh, you know, there are certain places in the country that it works really well, but I think any of these plastics now are starting to really kind of get looked at from a different light, especially when they've been You know, when they came out in the, in the seventies, eighties, whenever that stuff came out, um, it was seen as a lifetime warranty fix all.

[00:25:46] Eric Goranson: And we've come to see that, that that's not really the case that after, you know, a decade or so, these, these materials start to get brittle. They start to not last as long. They start to discolor, they start to chalk, and then, [00:26:00] um, once you put that up, you're really stuck because painting vinyl siding doesn't really usually work very well.

[00:26:07] Eric Goranson: I've seen a few people pull it off, but it's so hard to do because vinyl expands and contracts. And, um, the plastic was made, you know, for instance, if you take a, uh, a cream colored vinyl siding and you painted a dark brown, many times they did not put the right, Weather resistant plastic materials because they knew it was going to be white.

[00:26:31] Eric Goranson: So it doesn't have all the stuff that when the sun hits it, I've seen that stuff just turned to jello after people have painted it because it was not designed to be able to have that kind of heat on it from the surface temperatures. And so some people go through and buy some really good paint. And you know, Sherwin Williams makes a paint for painting vinyl siding and the two problems you have is one that if you go darker, It can melt in the sunlight on direct sun.

[00:26:56] Eric Goranson: And then two with an expanding and contracting that you've [00:27:00] got areas there in the winter time or the summertime, depending on when you painted it, that you'll see little shadow lines because the paint is now either exposed or hidden, depending on what time of year it is. And so when you paint it on a cool day, when it gets hot.

[00:27:17] Eric Goranson: Things are expanding and contracting you can have some problems So between that and trying to get in and paint around where the J channel is around corners or things like that It's pretty tough. I always recommend not painting vinyl siding and going around and just replacing it with a different product Nothing against you vinyl siding people out there But I tell you what the popular materials out there are some of the new cladding that you're seeing out there where you're using the deck materials or some of the composites out there that are Made to look like real wood And they either have a composite or a rubber coating on them to make them much more durable than thin pieces of vinyl plastic.

[00:27:55] Eric Goranson: So that's really what you're seeing now is that, uh, some of these materials that have been [00:28:00] around for 30 plus years, 40 plus years are now becoming where people are kind of tired of seeing them and, uh, those are kind of going on the out. So I would still rather see somebody put down a, a, uh, Know a, uh, hardy backer or something like that.

[00:28:14] Eric Goranson: Siding instead of doing vinyl. I think it's just, uh, if you have hail or if you have kids playing around or if you by a golf course, these things all damage that stuff and it'll punch holes in it. So those are things to consider. But I'd say vinyl siding is out. We have more of what's hot and what's not.

[00:28:29] Eric Goranson: Just as soon as round the house returns.[00:29:00]

[00:29:04] Eric Goranson: Welcome back to the round the house show. We've been talking here about all the different things that are hot and what's not for 2024 coming up. And let's talk about some of the things that you're seeing that are really popular and Things that are not as popular when it comes to metals now. I'm talking faucets cabin hardware doors door handles all those different things the places that you use metal traditionally what's hot or some of these new finishes like the Baldwin hardware has a new graphite nickel finish, which is really cool.

[00:29:35] Eric Goranson: It's a timeless look And it is a beautiful color, but I, I'll be honest guys, and this is something that's hard to say for a lot of people, but the polished brass in the satin nickel are definitely well beyond their prime right now. Now, some of the, uh, brushed browns, brushed brass. Satin brass. Those are still hot, but the [00:30:00] satin nickel.

[00:30:01] Eric Goranson: Yeah, that time has run That is the new kind of the new gold of the 1990s before that went you're still seeing the satin black Oil rubbed bronze same kind of thing. That's definitely out So I'm gonna put the satin nickel in the oil rubbed bronze on the out category and I'm gonna put in the graphite nickel and the satin brass and And, uh, the satin black are hot ones right now.

[00:30:27] Eric Goranson: And then you're seeing two tones, a lot of two tones, where you see a faucet where the base is one color and the top is another. Or the same thing with cabin hardware, where you have two different metal finishes within that. So those are really within the what's hot and what's not. And so, you know, it's a little bit different if you have a classic home and it's all original, that's one thing.

[00:30:47] Eric Goranson: But, uh, for new builders right now, what you're seeing is that satin nickel looks like it's 20 years old, just as the, uh, Polish brass looks like somebody from the 1990s wants their stuff back. So [00:31:00] think about those colors, what those do for you. And the other thing you're seeing too, is you're seeing a lot more, um, square finally done finishes.

[00:31:09] Eric Goranson: So you're seeing, um, much more machined edges. You're seeing, um, Really nice sharp edges on things where they've really been planned out. Um, and so you're really kind of looking for those kind of, uh, details when you're looking at stuff, nice square edges, nice machine finishes, things that really look high end, even when they're not.

[00:31:32] Eric Goranson: That's some of the hot things that you're seeing right now. Now other things that are hot and what's not, you're seeing down draft ranges have been out for decades and really good kitchen ventilation that vents outside of the house that you can throw a stake on that griddle and on that range or cooktop or whatever you have and to be able to vent that out correctly.

[00:31:52] Eric Goranson: That is another really, really important one that you're seeing out there is in building construction is ventilation [00:32:00] is king. The nice. Bathroom fan, the 120 plus cfm fan in the bathroom in the laundry room. Um, you're seeing in the garage you're seeing if it's it's attached garage with uh, with parking that's insulated.

[00:32:15] Eric Goranson: You're seeing ventilation systems in there because what can happen of getting moisture in there. You're really seeing these things become a lot more smart as far as. Having bath fans that work correctly and makeup air and things like that. So those are things that are really hot out there is making sure that in the downdraft ranges and really even the 30 inch ranges, unless you've got a condo or something small, those ranges are kind of out.

[00:32:38] Eric Goranson: You're very much seeing, um, more professional style cooktops. You're seeing griddles, you're seeing steam ovens, you're seeing all these different things going into the kitchen. And these are all things that are super hot right now. And it's something to really take a look at within the kitchen, the speed ovens, the air fryers, all of those things are really starting to become.

[00:32:58] Eric Goranson: You know, refrigerators that [00:33:00] have two different kinds of ice where you've got regular ice and a craft ice or the, or even some of that, uh, little tiny shaved ice type stuff that you're seeing coming out of that, uh, the, the little tiny pieces of ice. There's lots of different things that are happening, but just like smart home stuff, you're really starting to see was smart home stuff of what's in and what's out.

[00:33:20] Eric Goranson: What's out is really one company that has an app that runs all their appliances. What's in is the interoperability between those appliances. So you're starting to see like, um, you know, two different companies to be able to control through one app. And you're seeing that interoperability where the companies are sharing their technology so that if a television has a.

[00:33:41] Eric Goranson: A sensor to see how hot it is that the heating and cooling system can say, Hey, that's the living room TV. And we know that it's too warm in there. So let's go ahead and turn on that HVAC to make sure that we get the fan moving around to move air around because we have a place that's a lot hotter than other places.

[00:33:56] Eric Goranson: So you're starting to see this interoperability, which is [00:34:00] really big. And these are things that are starting to happen that you can really start to see that coming out in the next year or two, you're going to see competing brands to be able to use. You know, if you buy two different brands of something in your house, two different brands of appliances, or you've got a heating and cooling system that's different than your fans, you're going to start seeing these things all talk to each other.

[00:34:21] Eric Goranson: And so that's the latest trend. So keep an eye on what smart things you're buying. And what platform they are, they're on. So if they're able to use like Z Wave or if they're all smart things compatible or whatever, pay attention to what you're buying out there, because that is going to be the next thing that you're going to see.

[00:34:38] Eric Goranson: That is the next latest trend that we're going to see. That's going to blow up and that's going to be. How everything starts to work together. Instead of having 22 apps on your phone, you'll have one that controls everything. So pay real good attention to interoperability between things, because that is the latest and greatest it's coming out and that's going to really make a huge difference.

[00:34:59] Eric Goranson: And what you see out [00:35:00] there and how things work together, you know, in the latest thing that I'm seeing right now, and it's of course, due to the economy and, and what we've seen, you know, over the last 20 years, we've had a lot of people sitting there really taken four or five years in a house and then selling it, taking the profits, get the bigger house and stair stepping their way.

[00:35:19] Eric Goranson: up into nicer homes and more expensive homes and, and really playing off that investment. And, uh, I think right now for the next year or two, we're going to see that trend not happening because a lot of people out there that had three and 4 percent interest rates are looking at eight, nine percent interest rates and go, and I can't afford to buy my house.

[00:35:41] Eric Goranson: Even now under those interest rates, let alone what it is. So I think for the next few years is we wait for a administration changes and we wait for people to take this inflation more seriously and lower those interest rates, which means we almost have to go into a recession because, uh, you know, this [00:36:00] isn't a show about politics, but we have to get the inflation under control.

[00:36:03] Eric Goranson: And by doing that, we really need to get. Government spending out of control and there is nobody interested in doing that out there right now. So, uh, we're not going to see that change anytime soon. So these, these higher interest rates, I think, around for, for 12 to 36 months. Um, I don't think those are going to change anytime soon unless we have a recession come in.

[00:36:25] Eric Goranson: And we see, uh, people losing more jobs. We seeing the economy slowing and then, uh, then naturally they will be dropping those interest rates again. So we almost have to go through them through some pain here economically to see that come back down again, because those interest rates are put. there to kind of cool the economy.

[00:36:43] Eric Goranson: And so, um, until we see that happening, uh, I think the, uh, American trend of buying that next home and upgrading and selling and cashing in on that, uh, is going to be on a pause for most people because I know right now that, uh, most people can't afford [00:37:00] to have. Put an extra thousand or 1200 bucks on the price of their current home just because of the difference in the interest rates out there.

[00:37:08] Eric Goranson: So, um, we're seeing that kind of come into a big pause, which unfortunately means that you're going to see a lot of new construction do the same thing for people. And, um, it's really going to hurt affordable housing. Now you are going to see now, uh, you know, of course, states that you're seeing, you know, you're seeing a lot of Westcoast states.

[00:37:29] Eric Goranson: Losing people to other states because they want to live in and either safer areas, more affordable areas or whatever it is are going to better schools. But really, what you're starting to see now is, um, there will be regionally places that you're going to see, I think. You know, Texas, there's a lot of people moving from California to Texas.

[00:37:50] Eric Goranson: You're seeing people move to Florida. I think those States that are, that are out there that are managing things well, are going to see a great influx of people. And you're going to [00:38:00] see population on the West coast and Washington, you know, in Seattle and Portland and, and. L. A. And San Francisco. I think you're still going to consider that you're going to see that mass exodus of people out there because the only way people are going to be able to really, um, get into affordable housing is you're going to see people now moving into areas where they can telecommute.

[00:38:21] Eric Goranson: So you're going to see people going into South Dakota, North Dakota, Iowa, other places where it is more affordable to buy a home. And I think you're going to start seeing those plays take off because That's where people are going to afford to raise a family. So you're going to see a little bit more of that.

[00:38:37] Eric Goranson: So. Trend wise, I think we're going to see house sales be down for a number, you know, a year or two here, at least until that starts to could be more. We're going to see that happening and then you're going to see people going in and buying lesser expensive homes instead of going to buy a 800, 000 home in California.

[00:38:54] Eric Goranson: You're going to see people the higher interest rate by a 300, 000 home in [00:39:00] North Dakota and enjoy that. And have something that's going to be more affordable for them. So you're going to start to see that happening. I think we're seeing it now. I think it's going to happen more so in the next couple of years, but we'll see what happens, how the population levels out, leave some areas and goes into other areas that are more affordable and friendlier to raise a family.

[00:39:20] Eric Goranson: All right, everybody. That's my hot and what's not for 2024 coming up, looking into next year. Don't go away. We'll be back with another hour of around the house coming up next.