Was that your introduction into astrology?

No, I. I was interested in astrology since a kid because I've always been interested in mythology.

What was your start into the astrology?

What was your comic books?

I. I read comic books when I was little, for seven years old, and I read Conan the Barbarian.

In Conan the Barbarian, age of Conan comic book, they talked about astrology.

And then I went and got real astrology books called Walden Bookstores.

Back then I went to the Walden Bookstore, would read real astrology books and mythology books.

I am a comic book writer as well, so those things interest me.

Mythology, the gods, the stories, you know, the parables and the holy books and things of that sort.

The prophets and their stories and the heroes.

That was in those stories.

I was very much interested in whether it be Samson, Hercules or whomever.

So I read a lot.

I read about witchcraft.

I read about anything that do the supernatural or the occult, but I didn't get into it, meaning start to practice anything.

So I was.

After the age.

Can I ask you a question?

Growing up in one of those systems I know we taught to fear.

So how did you get into the occult stuff?

Being into, you know, coming out of

that school of thought, it was comic books.

And then my grandma, oh, I don't like that one that looks like the devil and, you know, throw my comic book away.

And I would get out the trash.

And so it was that, you know, like being a rebellious kid who told me, I can't do it.

I'm gonna do it even more.

And my dad's side was like, oh, that's not proper.

That's not what Muslims do.

Oh, yeah.

As soon as he turn, I was doing so.

It was the rebelliousness within me that kept me driven towards those things.

Energy.

Say again?

Aquarian energy.

I have Oranos or Uranus.

I do have it in Libra, in the stellium with a whole bunch of other planets.

The sun, Mercury and Pluto.

Very nice.

Very interesting.

It does oppose my moon in Aries.

So, you know, when it came to my.

My parental guidance, I did outright rebel against it.

Yeah.

Was that pointing to your moon?

Yeah.

Yes.

You.

You mentioned.

What was your first branch of astrology that you jumped into around the age of 23?

I got this book called the only astrology book you'll ever need.

Yeah, I got it too.

All right.

And that's what I really got serious with it when I thought, okay, this is a rising sign.

This is a moon sign.

Things I didn't know.

I just knew about my sun sign, which is Libra.

I didn't know about a rising sign and the moon sign, you know, didn't know about, you know, your time of birth.

And back then, they didn't have software programs.

I had to use an ephemeris to try to find my time, you know, my rising sign, which, based on my birth certificate, cancer would have been the ascendant.

And I kept reading it, you know, and I had my girlfriend, I was trying to read her, you know, and my friends and, you know, at the time, I was, like I said, I was heavily into starting to create my own comic books and writing strategy started to influence that.

You know, I started to put some of that stuff into my writing.

Are you an artist of some type?

I'm not a. I'm not a visual artist.

I wish.

I am a literary artist.

I can write anything.

But I prefer to write science fiction, fantasy, and action.

Oh, well, when you said comic book, I thought you might have been like an illustrator.

No, I pay artists to draw my comics.

But I have a comic book right now called Starfall, you know, so you write the story.

Say again?

You write the story.

Just I create the ideas, the characters, and I write the story.

Huh.

Interesting, Interesting.

I have someone that's listening that probably really interest her as well.

Well, yeah, it was funny because I kind of went away from it.

But later, when I became an astrologer, I went back to writing comics because now I actually use astrology to write the comics.

I literally think of an idea and pull the birth time of the chart and write the story according to that chart.

Nice.

Well, in all actuality, isn't that where all the stories come from anyway?

Yes.