Renee Rouleau

Foreign.

Roxy

You know, it would not be the iconic midlife if we did not play a game.

Renee Rouleau

Exactly. We love games.

Roxy

Are you ready for another game?

Renee Rouleau

Yes.

Roxy

I've got a fun one, lady.

Renee Rouleau

This one.

Roxy

This one is called Red Flag, Green light.

Renee Rouleau

So. Okay, we love that. Yes.

Roxy

We're gonna. We're gonna. I'm gonna describe a man, like, some tendencies or something he does, and you say if it's a. Or a green light for potential midlife dating situations.

Renee Rouleau

Okay.

Roxy

Okay. He's never been married.

Renee Rouleau

Green. Green light. Okay.

Roxy

So, like, if he's, let's say 50, 55 and never been married, that's okay, right?

Renee Rouleau

Let's. Let's not. Let's not make assumptions here.

Roxy

Okay.

Renee Rouleau

Okay.

Roxy

Good call.

Renee Rouleau

Some people are late bloomers.

Roxy

That's true. That's true.

Renee Rouleau

And that's okay. And that's okay.

Roxy

That's okay. That's absolutely okay. Okay. He's in his 50s and he lives with his mom.

Renee Rouleau

That would be a red flag. Yeah. Yeah.

Roxy

You're like. And in the basement, too. Like.

Renee Rouleau

I know, right? But. But I mean. I mean, except, I mean, is she elderly? He's a caretaker for her. You know, depends on the situation. But in general, I think most women would like an independent. A man that lives independently.

Roxy

Yes.

Renee Rouleau

You know, or not with his mom.

Roxy

Exactly. He asks you for your Venmo in the first week.

Renee Rouleau

I think that's a green light. Is he sending me, like, is he reimbursing me for half the meal I paid or.

Roxy

Could be.

Renee Rouleau

I don't know. Yeah, I don't. I don't. I don't know. I haven't had many Venmo experiences, so I don't know. What's there an ulterior motive there? That's. No. That's a good question. Yeah, I mean, I mean, maybe. Maybe a true gentleman would all of a sudden Venmo me because he's like, hey, let me take care of that Uber that you. That you took. I'd like to cover that cost. Or. I don't know.

Roxy

As long as he's sending payment and not payment requests.

Renee Rouleau

Oh, okay. Oh, so sending a Venmo means he's asking for money?

Roxy

Yeah.

Renee Rouleau

Oh, okay. Sorry. I thought it just meant, like, share your Venmo. I don't know. Okay, so yeah. Yes, that would be a red flag. Yes.

Roxy

His ex, who's a girl, is still his best friend.

Renee Rouleau

His ex, who is a girl, is still his best friend. Green light. I have no issues with that.

Roxy

Okay, so there's no jealousy?

Renee Rouleau

No. I mean, I'M I think it's, you know, it's important to understand the state of the relationship and what it is. But I think, you know, in this life, you know, there's very few people that we have true, close connections with, and if. If they're great friends and. And it has. It's clear that there's not something to it. I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt.

Roxy

Okay. He has no social media footprint or presence at all.

Renee Rouleau

Green light.

Roxy

Oh, okay, so that would not scare you off?

Renee Rouleau

No, I mean, I think. I mean, some people are private people. You know, my late husband, he had a little social media presence, but my husband didn't trust anybody and he didn't like himself out there, and he just liked privacy. And the reality is I, you know, I kind of can't be that private because, you know, my name is my brand and, you know, I have to have a presence. But I am far more private now than I ever have been because. And, like, I don't post my love life. I haven't posted any pictures of my relationship with my boyfriend at all because there's power and privacy. So I think that we've all gotten kind of used to that. You have to, you know, have a presence online. But now, I mean, are they on LinkedIn? Are they somewhere? I don't know. It just. It depends on what they do for the living. A living as well.

Roxy

That brings me to my next one. He's charming, but vague about his job.

Renee Rouleau

I would say that is a red flag.

Roxy

Okay, so you'd say hold off on that one maybe.

Renee Rouleau

And when in doubt, hire a private investigator. I mean, this is the thing, too. Like, I don't, you know, I mean, just. Ladies, you have that in your back pocket, you know, like, especially if you've been dating someone for a while or something. Like, I mean, you hate to do that, but, I mean, if you really want to know and you don't have time to waste, hire a PI if you really want to.

Roxy

Yeah, good point, Good point.

Renee Rouleau

I mean, they'll find everything on someone. Trust me, they're good at their job.

Roxy

Real quick. Okay, he is 15 years younger than you.

Renee Rouleau

Green light. Green light. Whatever works. Whatever works. Okay.

Roxy

He refuses to take selfies with you. He refuses or, like, be in pictures with you?

Renee Rouleau

Well, I mean, I don't post pictures of me and my boyfriend, but we take selfies. Do you mean taking selfies and posting it and sharing it? Well, then it's a green light because some people are private, you know, I mean, I And I just, I think that again, there's power and privacy. So I don't, I mean, I have to understand the context of it. But also some people, which I love, like, some people are very conscious of when they're out with people to not be on their phones. Right. And like, why do we need to have a picture of every occasion? Like, we don't. Like, how about we just put our phones away and we'd be present? So I think it just depends on the context of what that is. Yeah, so it's kind of depends. But I think, but I think, I think we need to be taking less selfies, basically what it is, Right. We don't need to take selfies and have to document every moment. I think sometimes just being present and not having our cameras and phones out is nice too. Yeah.

Roxy

He only text, never calls.

Renee Rouleau

Well, I think, I think it just, I mean, I'll say a green light only because we can't always assume that people are doing something nefarious. Right. So we, it's like listen to what they're saying, I guess. I mean, some people. Now I'm in a long distance relationship. He happens to like, you know, he enjoys talking on the phone. My husband hated talking on the phone. Now we live together, so that's a different story. But I could never be in a long distance relationship with my late husband because it never would have worked because he didn't like to talk on the phone. And that's okay. He didn't like to talk on the phone. That just wasn't right for me. And especially doing long distance, right? So I just think, I think especially, you know, as I said, we need to understand what men, what men's needs are. Women, we love to talk. Men don't, they don't like to talk on the phone. They're not talkers. They're just not. And so again, you have to decide, like, am I okay with somebody who's not a big talker? If that's not right for you, then go find somebody else who does like to talk on the phone. But again, we have to understand that men are from Mars, women are from Venus. We're wired differently. And that's okay. It doesn't make someone bad. It's just you have to decide. Does that work for you?

Roxy

Yeah, absolutely. He wants to split the dinner bill. Exactly. Like to the penny.

Renee Rouleau

To the penny?

Roxy

Yeah, like, you know, 52.36 or something. Like to the penny.

Renee Rouleau

Okay, so I will, for me, I don't like anyone who's anal and that sounds like it's anal. So. But guess what? Some. Some women are anal. Some men are, you know, anal. So if they're. If that's their little thing that's important to them, then great, if that works for you. But you know that. That wouldn't be for me. But that doesn't mean it's wrong.

Roxy

What about if he wants to split the bill on the first date? Like dinner bill?

Renee Rouleau

I think that's fair. I think that's fair. I mean. I mean, also, I'm an independent woman, so I'm kind of okay like that. But, I mean, it depends on the context, right? If a guy pursued you and he's taking you out, then of course he should pay. But if. If somebody's like, I don't know, if a friend's just kind of setting. Setting you guys up, it's like, hey, I think you guys should date. But, like, neither one really pursued the other one, and you kind of. Someone set you up. Then it's like, you know, we don't know if this is going to be a love connection. I'm just trusting this friend that put me on this blind date. So in that case, it's like, yeah, we may be. We're just kind of getting together because we're doing it as a favor for our friend because they think we should meet, but it doesn't mean that it's going to be a romantic, you know, connection. So I think if that. In that scenario, then it's like, no, we. We split it.

Roxy

Okay, that's a good point.

Renee Rouleau

Yeah.

Roxy

If you're not being. If one isn't chasing the other sort of a thing.

Renee Rouleau

Exactly.

Roxy

Yeah. Yeah, that's fair. He tells you he loves you on week two.

Renee Rouleau

Well, yeah, I would say that's a red flag. That's. That's a little much. Especially because men, notoriously, they don't hand that out. They don't hand I love you out like trick or treat candy. Right. So they hand it out when it's really meaningful. So if he's saying that too quickly, that. That. That wouldn't be right for me.

Roxy

Yeah, that would feel a little weird. A little off.

Renee Rouleau

Yes.

Roxy

Well, Renee, you have passed the test with flying colors.

Renee Rouleau

I know. I wish everything was so black and white, but in humans, everything is just not so black and white. And as you can probably tell, I give people the benefit of the doubt, because inherently, humans are good people. You know, there's always going to be a small percentage that are not. But by and large, I think we all. I Know, we all want the same things in this life. We want to be happy. We want to be loved. We want to, you know, we want to love and be loved. We want to be accepted for who we are. Um, you know, we want to be able to put a roof over our head. We all have the same fundamental needs, both men and women. You know, there's no. There's no bad guy. You know, there's. You know, there's good guys. There's plenty of them. And my wish is that women just give men a little more grace and just accept that they're not like us. They're not like us. They never will be like us. And, you know, and we need to.

Roxy

Accept that they have their own factory settings. I mean, totally different.

Renee Rouleau

Yeah, Right.

Roxy

And not to say we can't change those. I mean, not change them, but, you know, you can kind of like. Like you were saying earlier, tell them what you love and what you like and, you know, the things that you want, because they're also not mind readers, you know, so you kind of.

Renee Rouleau

Exactly.

Roxy

Right.

Renee Rouleau

And at a certain point, if you're sharing what you need and they're not able to meet that, then he's not the right one for you. So you can't get mad at him because, oh, he needed to be this, that, and the other thing. Some people aren't able to do that for you. Right. And that's okay. And that's up to you. Just at some point, say, this is no longer right for me. I've expressed my needs. I've said what's important, and he's not able to do that for me. But there'll be someone out there that would be open to that. And so it's not, you know, yelling at each other and thinking that, you know, people are awful. It's just like, this wasn't a fit.

Roxy

It wasn't a fit.

Renee Rouleau

It wasn't a fit.

Roxy

And no hard feelings, like, just move on and go on with your life. Right, Right.

Renee Rouleau

Yeah. Because trust me, we're not the fit for everyone either. You know, I mean, I know we act like we're all high and mighty, but we're not the fit for everyone either, too.

Roxy

It's true. It's true. It's.

Renee Rouleau

It's.

Roxy

You know, it goes both ways, right?

Renee Rouleau

It goes both ways. Absolutely.