1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:15,400 Welcome to podcast answers. That's right. This is the show where I help people start 2 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:21,200 and grow their podcasts, answering any podcasting questions along the way. That's right. We 3 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:30,440 are back with a new episode. Happy Thanksgiving to everybody who is in the U.S. I hope you're 4 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:36,320 spending some time with your families. And if you're talking about podcasting and you're 5 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:42,040 thinking about starting a podcast, I can help you do that. I provide consulting for podcasting 6 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:47,600 and full service options from editing to posting to promoting whatever you need to do with 7 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:53,520 your podcasts. I do it. And so if you're with your people this weekend for Thanksgiving 8 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:57,840 and you start talking about podcasting, because you know, who doesn't start about talking about 9 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:02,720 podcasting when they're hanging out with their family? What else do you have to do? Right? 10 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:07,240 I mean, eat turkey, talk about podcasting. If you want to start a podcast, I can help 11 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:13,160 you podcast answers.com slash contact is the place to do that. Because again, I want to 12 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:20,640 get everybody started a podcast because podcasting is fun. So today, though, we are talking about 13 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:29,640 navigating legal issues and just and copyright issues. So we're talking today, when you start 14 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:35,200 a podcast, there are things that you need to think about because you could get into some 15 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:39,840 major trouble if you don't take those things into consideration. And so first thing we're 16 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:45,880 going to be talking a little bit today is about music. And that's going to be, you know, 17 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:51,040 you may be tempted to put things like ACDC back in black on your podcast, but I would 18 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:55,320 not recommend doing that because you will get in trouble for it. You may think no one's 19 00:01:55,320 --> 00:02:00,600 going to be listening to it. And you may think that you don't have to worry about anything, 20 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:05,840 but that is not true. That is not the case. You will get in trouble for it. So there are 21 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:12,240 some ways around it. There is lots of royalty free music that you can use. One of the ones 22 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:16,440 and that's actually where I found the music for this podcast. That's the, you know, this 23 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:22,080 track here is actually something from YouTube music, not YouTube music, but YouTube has 24 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:28,120 a music selection that they allow you to use underneath your tracks and underneath your 25 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:33,280 videos. And I've been able to, I've used it for this podcast too. I am broadcasting this 26 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:40,240 podcast on YouTube currently as I, as I do it live because I like having a live podcast. 27 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:47,480 It's a lot of fun, but you can use YouTube to get some royalty free music that you can 28 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:54,920 use other places that you can use it for. Also are pond five.com. I've, you can buy a track 29 00:02:54,920 --> 00:03:01,360 there. So well, one of the things that you have to watch out with the YouTube music is 30 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:05,880 sometimes you have to do attribution on it, meaning you have to listen, you have to put 31 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:12,280 in, you know, who the artist is in your, in your episode description. But the other thing 32 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:16,000 to do is, you know, pond five.com is a great place. You can buy a track. I've been able 33 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:24,920 to buy, buy a track for one of my other podcasts and you can just use it as you, as you play 34 00:03:24,920 --> 00:03:30,080 your podcast because once you buy it, it's legally yours to use as long as that's what 35 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,880 you're, you know, as long as that you've been able to clear, clear that with pond five. 36 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,200 There's lots of more different websites for that too, though. You can use epidemic sound 37 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:41,440 and that's going to be a subscription. So pond five is used by the track. You go in, 38 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,880 you'll listen to it. You say, Hey, I want to, I want to buy this track and you buy the 39 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:50,680 track and you're able to use it with pond or with epidemic sound. That's a subscription 40 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:55,680 and you get basically pay a monthly subscription. And as long as you're paying that, you can 41 00:03:55,680 --> 00:04:01,640 continue to put tracks from their library into your podcast and listen and have that 42 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:06,680 as your sounds. And, you know, you can change that up if you want to do a different sound 43 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:12,320 for tomorrow. You know, next episode, you can change that episode up. You change that 44 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:17,480 artwork up from epidemic sound. And so again, that's a subscription, but it clears you. 45 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,960 What you do with epidemic sound is you, you clear channels. So you say YouTube, I want 46 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:28,000 to clear my YouTube channel so that that way they know when, when someone or YouTube's 47 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:32,760 algorithms report it, that you're clear to use it because you have a subscription. So 48 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:37,200 again, music is one of the big things that we have to think about royalty free. I would 49 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:41,920 stay away. You know, I've heard things where people say I can use it fair use. I'm going 50 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:47,800 to play 10 seconds of, you know, ACDC black and black. And I just would not do that because 51 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:52,760 you're going to get, you are going to get copyrighted every time and you don't want 52 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:57,160 to do that. You don't want them to take that down. And so you're definitely going to want 53 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:06,280 to, to not use anything under the guise of fair use just because that's something that 54 00:05:06,280 --> 00:05:12,800 I would stay away from. Now the next thing that I would, I would warn you about is having 55 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:18,720 your guests sign a release form. So yes, you may have your guests come on and your guests 56 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:26,160 may say, yes, I want to be on your podcast, but then next, you know, a week from now, 57 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:30,680 they may come back and say, no, I didn't really like that or I don't give you permission for 58 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:37,320 it. And they can take you to court on that. And so I would have them sign a release form 59 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:43,520 and that way they can, they are held to, you can take, that's a legal contract you can 60 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:47,760 take and say, no, you've signed this release form that I own this media. You did, we're 61 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:54,800 a guest on my show in no, there was no exchange of anything for it, value for it, but you 62 00:05:54,800 --> 00:06:00,640 were a guest on my show. And so that allows you to say, no, you've released that episode 63 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:05,480 and what you've set out. Now some people take that a step further and say, you know, I'm, 64 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:11,200 I will edit it and you can listen to the podcast before I release it. But for me, what I do 65 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:15,000 is I have people sign my release form, which basically says anything that you've said on 66 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:21,120 the show can and will be on the show. Now I usually tell them afterwards, if you decide, 67 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:26,440 you know, right after the show that you shouldn't have said that, that it's okay to go ahead 68 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:30,960 and contact me. I will edit it out as long as it's before the release of the episode. 69 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:37,120 So have them sign a release form. And then what I would do is also on your own edit out 70 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:42,280 anything that you think might cause legal issues. So let's say your guest said something 71 00:06:42,280 --> 00:06:47,720 that later when you're editing set, you say, I don't know legally if I should put that 72 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:55,440 in my show because it's just some, there's just a little bit of controversy on it or 73 00:06:55,440 --> 00:07:00,920 it may come back to bite me. So like you as the editor have the right to edit those things 74 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:06,160 out and you, you should, if you think it's may cause legal issues because you as a publisher 75 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:12,520 can be held responsible for it. Now, if you are contacted later about an episode, consider 76 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:18,120 it taking it down. I had one in one of my podcasts where a previous guest came in and 77 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:23,200 said, you know, I would really appreciate if you would take this episode down because 78 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:35,160 of XYZ. And so I considered it. I said, you know, I'm your friend. We were friends and 79 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:39,160 I care about you because if I didn't take it down, yes, I didn't legally have to take 80 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:45,120 it down, but I took it down because I care about the person and I didn't want them to 81 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:50,280 get hurt over what was said in the podcast. Yes, they were responsible for what they said, 82 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:55,840 but ultimately I cared more about my friendship. And so I took that episode down. So again, 83 00:07:55,840 --> 00:08:01,320 consider that it's not that big of a deal. If later you need to come back and take an 84 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:09,200 episode down. Now be careful for what you say to in your podcast because you could be held 85 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:15,000 liable for things that you say and liable is basically where you say a way that you 86 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:21,560 publish a false statement and it's damaging to a person's reputation. So let's say you 87 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:27,600 said something about a famous person and it was a false statement and damages their reputation. 88 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:32,180 They can come back and sue you for liable. And so just make sure that what you're talking 89 00:08:32,180 --> 00:08:39,200 about, you can't be held liable in any way. Make sure that you have 100% true statements 90 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:43,720 and don't say anything that could be damaging to a person's reputation, even if you think 91 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:51,160 it may be true because you can be held responsible for that. Now the last thing that I would 92 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:57,160 say you need to be careful with as far as legal issues go. And again, all of these things 93 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:05,800 are coming from me. I am not a lawyer. And so I don't know what you can and can't 100% 94 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:12,080 be sued on because I'm not a lawyer. And I will give you a recommendation on a lawyer 95 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:18,040 that's good with podcasting in case you want to one or need one. But the last thing that 96 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:24,160 I would say to consider is in naming your podcast. Don't use products or company names 97 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:29,120 in the title of your podcast unless you are that company. So don't call yourself the Coca 98 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:34,120 Cola fan club. Even if you say the Coca Cola fan club or the unofficial Coca Cola fan club 99 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:42,560 or whatever, I would be cautious of how you use things in your name because those companies 100 00:09:42,560 --> 00:09:49,520 can come back and sue you if you are not the owner of that trademark, that copyright, that 101 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:55,880 name. So I would just be super careful with that. And then also search for other podcast 102 00:09:55,880 --> 00:10:01,120 names that are like yours. Now, this is not 100% legal. You can still use the name, but 103 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:06,160 be careful because make sure it's not copyrighted. So if somebody has a copyright on the name, 104 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:13,200 don't use it. Like I wouldn't try to use something like maybe podcast answers or dudes and dads 105 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:18,480 podcast, which is my other podcast, because it's kind of a specific name. But you can 106 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:24,120 use things like let's talk or let's talk about it or real talk. Those are, but the one thing 107 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:30,160 you have to know about those is lots of podcasts have let's talk or real talk or let's get real 108 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:35,200 or let's talk or things like that. So your podcast isn't going to stand out because it's 109 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:40,640 going to be hard to find because if I search for let's talk about it, 150 other shows are 110 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:46,480 going to come up and those may or may not be yours. So you do need to be careful about 111 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,900 naming your podcast because you don't want to put a product name in there, but you also 112 00:10:49,900 --> 00:10:56,400 want to not use a name that's so generic that people aren't going to find your podcast. 113 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:03,400 So those are the things that I would say that you need to consider about when you're thinking 114 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:09,000 about the legal issues of your podcast. And again, this is not a hundred percent exhaustive 115 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:14,840 list, but these are just some things that I thought of about legally and copyrighting, 116 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:20,480 you know, copyright issues that could come into play in your podcast. So with that though, 117 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:28,240 I did say that I was going to recommend a podcast lawyer and that person is Gordon Firemark 118 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:36,440 and Gordon is a lawyer, but he's also specializes in podcasting topics. He's a podcaster himself. 119 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:41,840 And so he's very, very familiar with issues that can come up to podcasters. In fact, he's 120 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:46,960 the one that kind of gave me the template that I use for the podcasting and released form 121 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,640 for my guests. And this is a generic thing. He didn't give it specifically to me, but 122 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:57,960 he had it on his site. And so I used it because I wanted to cover my basis on my guests to 123 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:03,800 make sure that I wasn't going to be in violation and then have, I wanted to cover myself there. 124 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:11,560 So I would check out Gordon Firemark. If you are, if you are going to be looking for a 125 00:12:11,560 --> 00:12:20,680 podcast lawyer. So guys, I was thinking about doing something for this podcast. Would you 126 00:12:20,680 --> 00:12:28,200 like to see this podcast in video form in your podcast app? Now I do post this live. 127 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:35,480 We do a live YouTube video. And I also post the video to it to YouTube after the fact. 128 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:41,400 But I do stream audio live in new podcasting apps because some new podcasting apps can 129 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:47,800 show a live audio and live video feed of the podcast episode. You get alerted in it when 130 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:52,920 your favorite show goes live. And for me, I go live a little bit early before any other 131 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:59,240 app, any other place like slow YouTube. I don't start the podcast on YouTube for a little 132 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:04,920 while, but I do normally start the audio stream early. And the reason I do that is kind of 133 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:12,800 a little bit more of a behind the scenes look into that. And so I do start that early. And 134 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:17,720 so I can do that live video also in podcasting apps. So if that's something that you would 135 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:21,480 like to see, I'm looking for some people to partner with me. It'll be about $10 a month 136 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:26,280 or so. And I can with doing that, I can provide live video while recording in some of the 137 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:32,720 podcast apps. If you want to help provide that, get in contact with me. Hello at podcastinganswers.com 138 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:39,120 because I would love to do that. And then I can, I'm also thinking about starting a service 139 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:44,200 for other podcasters to use that they can stream live video to. So again, if you want 140 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:49,640 to help me out and stream this video live on new podcast apps, $10 a month will get you 141 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:56,960 there. Hello at podcast dancers.com guys. Have a safe week. Happy Thanksgiving and just keep 142 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:58,760 on podcasting. 143 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:05,760 Bye. 144 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:18,760 Bye. 145 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:20,760 You