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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: What if one simple prayer could crack you wide open to a life of tears, healing, and supernatural experiences? Our next guest grew up questioning if God was real until a single moment changed everything. Today he shares how to break free from religious boxes, awaken the spirit within, and live the kingdom of God at hand.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Right here right now. Hi, and welcome to the you world order, showcase, podcast where we feature life, health, transformational coaches, and spiritual entrepreneurs being the change they seek in the world. I'm your host, Jill Hart, the coaches alchemist on a mission to help coaches and entrepreneurs amplify their voice, monetize their mission and get visible leveraging podcasts and substack.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Today we are chatting with Bill Potler.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Poutler Bill is a spiritual seeker who has dedicated his life to understanding the practical methodology of becoming spiritually aware through his extensive studies and mystical experiences. He believes that each of us is called to a supernatural life. His desire is to see each of us experience the peace, love, fun, and power that is at our fingertips. He is also the author of awakening to ourselves. Welcome to the show, Bill. It's great to have you here.

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Bill Pautler: No, thank you, Joe. Beautiful opening. Appreciate it.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: You are so welcome. So let's ask you the big question, what's the most significant thing in your opinion, as individuals we can do to make an impact on how the world is going.

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Bill Pautler: I mean, that's pretty easy. I'll give you the short answer. It's change ourselves right.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: That's I mean, that's the thing.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So do you want an elaboration of that? Sure.

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Bill Pautler: Okay. So I believe that we are all divine spirits and bodies.

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Bill Pautler: Okay, believe that we're all eternal.

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Bill Pautler: Okay. But we're just in this particular. I like to call it a realm. You can call it Earth world, whatever. But we're in this particular realm, because

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Bill Pautler: when it's kind of like the Garden of Eden story. Not everybody knows that. But in the Garden of Eden everything's perfect, right, and God says, don't eat the fruit of that tree.

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Bill Pautler: Otherwise, you know, you're gonna get thrown out of this garden.

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Bill Pautler: But and actually the snake that tempts

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Bill Pautler: Eve is actually God, too. But most people don't realize that because the snake in all our symbolism is the whatever that infinity sign is called, it's. It's the Alpha and the Omega. So God always asks us

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Bill Pautler: whether we want, because in divine spirit, when you're in the light of God, when you're in that consciousness.

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Bill Pautler: you can't experience anything but that. Okay.

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Bill Pautler: so God gives us free will choice to leave the light and come to a realm like this.

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Bill Pautler: And this is where we can experience in a more sensual way

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Bill Pautler: the all the aspects of a new subset of aspects of divine consciousness.

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Bill Pautler: So remind me what the question is. So I can sum this up.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: The most significant thing we can do as individuals to make an impact on how the world is going.

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Bill Pautler: There we go. So we leave that divine.

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Bill Pautler: that divinity. And when we come in.

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Bill Pautler: if you look at a baby, you go. Oh, because they're pure. Their souls come in pure, pure light, like 99 point

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Bill Pautler: 9% of them. Well, we don't need to talk about. There's a little portion that don't come in pure, but

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Bill Pautler: we come in pure. And then what happens is

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Bill Pautler: we get lacquered with this mud of false beliefs in this world, whether it's you know,

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Bill Pautler: Fomo, you know, fear of missing out, or whether it's we've got to strive and work hard, or you know, if

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Bill Pautler: if we have abundance. Then we're taking from other people's abundance. And there's just a thousand of those things you can think of all of them right, you know, calling ourselves victim all these things that we learn. And so

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Bill Pautler: but since the Spirit of God, divinity

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Bill Pautler: lives within us, we're these huge, powerful, spiritual beings

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Bill Pautler: in itty, bitty little body, you know. Great big genie, itty, bitty little lamp. Okay. But we forget that because we conform ourselves to the world. And I came out of a Christian background, and the one I mean, there's a number of pieces of Scripture that I love, but one of the pieces of Scripture that I love is, do not conform yourself to this world.

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Bill Pautler: but be renewed by your mind, that you may know the perfect and pleasing will of God.

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Bill Pautler: So we come into this world. We get lacquered with all this stuff, all this mud gets piled on us, and we just and and then some of it we ascribe to, and we lose ourselves. We get focused on the world

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Bill Pautler: instead of focused on our divinity, and why we're here. And so the whole process of learning how

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Bill Pautler: to be awakened. Enlightened, you know, aware, whatever the term is, you want to give it, it doesn't really matter, is a process of awareness of looking at what we believe.

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Bill Pautler: okay? And questioning it. And when we do that.

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Bill Pautler: we really dig down into our deep selves, into our spiritual selves, into our true nature.

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Bill Pautler: and when you look at awareness

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Bill Pautler: with awareness of these false beliefs, one by one, they'll just start to fall off, and you get back to your true nature, and once you, as you continue to get back to your true nature.

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Bill Pautler: then this beauty.

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Bill Pautler: like the saints, you know, and all the pictures they've got the halos around them right, because you can see the light. It's the bushel basket taking the bushel basket off of the candle and let it shine so you don't have to become anything else but yourself. You just have to realize your divinity, and that when you do that that is the most powerful thing you can do in this world.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yes, it is. And I there's another. There is a verse that I

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: it's kind of life changing for me, and I've had people that

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: were the have come into my life, and their specific job was to tell me this verse.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: The 1st was, Don't worry about tomorrow. Today has got trouble enough of its own.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and it it takes away the need to fear about things you have no control over.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Then it allows you the space

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: to renew your mind and conform to whatever your mission here is.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: How? How do you feel about soul contracts? What? What are your thoughts on that.

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Bill Pautler: Old contracts.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: That you. You have a mission that you've decided before you come.

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Bill Pautler: I mean, I think I'm on my soul contract right now. Think I've been on my soul contract most of my life, but I believe we all have soul contracts. You know this world is a beautiful playground.

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Bill Pautler: It's also can be very

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Bill Pautler: scary and disarming with the wrong attitude, because there's a lot of violence and trauma in this world.

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Bill Pautler: But we all. But it's the.

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Bill Pautler: It's the contrast

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Bill Pautler: that allows us to work right? And so, but we I believe we all have soul contracts. I believe we have soul families. I think some of us have

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Bill Pautler: twin flames. You know, I can go down the list. But the only way that you and I get better

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Bill Pautler: is by the interface right? You rub up against me. I rub up against you, and

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Bill Pautler: one of the I've got a chapter in my book, and it's called, What Is it called something like

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Bill Pautler: I don't remember. Pain is your friend, or something like that, or

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Bill Pautler: whatever it is. When we bump up in against a rock.

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Bill Pautler: a rock doesn't feel pain, we feel pain, and so when we run one of my one of my core things to make us better is every time you have pain

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Bill Pautler: mental. I'm not talking about physical pain, more mental pain, spiritual pain. Trauma. Somebody pulls over in front of you. Somebody says something ugly to you. Somebody says something nice to you, and you take it the wrong way. You know a thousand things right if we look at that pain.

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Bill Pautler: because that's our trigger.

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Bill Pautler: That is where we're not dealing in a real belief system.

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Bill Pautler: And so if you keep looking at every time you have a little bit of pain, and with awareness you dig deep and go. Oh.

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Bill Pautler: I got triggered, not because he pulled over in front of me, but because of something in me.

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Bill Pautler: You'll get yourself cleansed in a couple of years, and it's all done.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It really is that simple, too. It's being aware of what you're thinking about, what you're thinking about.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: because we all have thoughts. You know. Somebody jumps right in front of you and it. Your your thought is like this, this thing that just shows up. But then, when we start thinking about that thing. We we can either choose to

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: have

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: either let it go, or we can think about the way we're thinking about it like somebody cuts you off, and your immediate thought is

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: that person. He did it to me. And then you think about well, no, probably they just like didn't see you, and it was an accident, so you can ruin your whole day over something that

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: somebody didn't do intentionally, and even if they did it intentionally.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: it's they didn't perceive the intentionalness the same way that you are perceiving it. I mean nothing. Nothing that exists in this world is perceived exactly the same.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and and you can make up any story you want about anything that you experience.

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Bill Pautler: That's exactly right. We make up stories, and that's our filter to the world. Once you clear your filter the world gets easy.

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Bill Pautler: maybe not easy. The world gets

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Bill Pautler: beautiful, and you start to step into the flow and the little things that happen. I mean, I watch people all the time get upset about all type of stuff that

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Bill Pautler: doesn't bother me at all, even if it happens to me.

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Bill Pautler: So.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Duh.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and if you go back to the whole God experience, I sometimes wonder if God isn't experiencing everything that every living thing experiences, all at the same time.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Like everybody, has an experience, every living being is constantly having an experience in in the ever present. Now.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I mean, now is an experience. And so I think this this

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: energy source, because that's really, ultimately what I believe that God and the source is is energy.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: there's having this like, it's like a symphony.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: We're we're all playing notes in a in a larger piece of music that's so complex. And and

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: sometimes there's discord in there. But overall

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: it's it's a piece of music. And I wonder, you know, maybe when we die we get to go. Listen.

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Bill Pautler: Oh, absolutely, absolutely. I completely, that. That's basically I've got the same philosophy that you do.

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Bill Pautler: That's it. And I mean, I think of God.

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Bill Pautler: I do think of God as energy a little bit. But I really think of I've really. I've been thinking about this for years and years and years. I've just kind of landed on this one piece about what I think God is, and I'm going to say number one, and not that you can number God right, and you can use.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: You can try.

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Bill Pautler: Can try. You can use a thousand names for it, too, for him. Her whatever.

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Bill Pautler: As we all. Yeah, that's I kind of like it. But I get it, you know. But we've all got male and male and female energy, yin and yang. Right?

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Bill Pautler: But number one is God is consciousness.

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Bill Pautler: Okay? And number 2 is God is life.

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Bill Pautler: and those are the 2 characteristics that I kind of settle on

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Bill Pautler: with God, and I agree with you. 100. I mean, if this is the end of my finger is a perspective of something that happens or what's going on. There's 360 degrees of perspective around this 1 point. So build whatever story you want around it. But if you build stories

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Bill Pautler: that I believe are true or clear, without all the false labels.

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Bill Pautler: then this becomes the kingdom of God. Because Jesus said, The kingdom of God is at hand. It's not up here, it's not there. It's right here because God like you said, and this is old Alan Watts. Stuff is houses God going to manifest into the universe.

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Bill Pautler: he's manifesting Him. Her God is manifesting in a

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Bill Pautler: gazillion 1 billion ways right? We are one of the manifestations. We are the eyes into this realm, into each other.

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Bill Pautler: It's all just one big. You think of it as a symphony, and I think that's a beautiful way. I also use the word tapestry, because you're a particular color cord, and and I'm a particular colored cord or thread and all woven together. We're this one big, beautiful tapestry fabric.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Keep skidding, growing around the edges.

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Bill Pautler: Absolutely changing right.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: The Navajo when they they're weavers. I met a Navajo woman.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: maybe last year. She she was fascinating. They she was telling me about. She was weaving at this this.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: What do you call them?

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It? An exchange place that they they still have like outposts. And they sell all their

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: native American stuff. But she was in there weaving, and she was telling me that it's it's a process that's passed down from daughter to mother to daughter, and that different family units have different patterns that they're allowed to do. They can't do all of them. It's just certain patterns that share like who they are, I thought, was really fascinating.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: That's very fascinating. Actually, I love that

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: something kind of different than what we were talking about. But

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: you talked about practical techniques to uncover the Spirit of God within us. Can you share one or 2 of these with our listeners to try today.

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Bill Pautler: Yeah, absolutely.

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Bill Pautler: Well, one is. I just shared about pain. That's such an easy one to do anytime. You've got any type of pain. You need to pause for a second and process that, and you might. It might take you days or weeks or months to process, but just earmark it and start thinking about it. And I'm a big believer that you really don't have to do anything

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Bill Pautler: to change except for look at it with awareness when you start, because awareness, I've got a chapter on. This awareness is the beginning of change. Once you realize that when you eat bad.

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Bill Pautler: that you start to feel bad.

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Bill Pautler: you naturally, you keep you start looking at your food and all the different things your habits will change. Okay, so it's just basic awareness. So there's that's 1 point. Look at your pain and know that it changes with awareness. The other thing is, realize that you're divine. Okay, and that you've been lacquered with all these false beliefs that you don't even understand. You've been lacquered with start looking at those

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Bill Pautler: number 2 or 3. I like to think that we're eternal.

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Bill Pautler: Okay? So you start looking at all your problems from an eternal level.

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Bill Pautler: like, I've got 6 kids, 6 kids have lots of issues over the course of my youngest one's about

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Bill Pautler: 19 or 20, and my oldest one's like 43, 44, I mean, I've experienced all type of stuff anywhere, from drug problems to car accidents to

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Bill Pautler: depression. I mean just everything right.

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Bill Pautler: But when I look at my children and I know that

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Bill Pautler: I've been rejected by my children, different ones for years at a time, and span on, and all type of stuff.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And then shirts.

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Bill Pautler: Oh, golly! It hurts a lot. Thank you.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Hurts a lot.

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Bill Pautler: But if you look at yeah, yeah, 5 congrats.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: In the same same span. My youngest is 21. My oldest is 43.

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Bill Pautler: Oh, man, we have some more talking to do.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah.

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Bill Pautler: But when you look at your children from an eternal standpoint.

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Bill Pautler: You know that your goal is to get them to be aware of their spirit and to learn how to love themselves. Okay and it. And so how you deal with them, as I'm also big into acting as opposed to reacting. Okay, choosing whether to act or not, to act or how to act.

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Bill Pautler: so it, looking at it from an eternal standpoint, is another thing, another practical issue.

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Bill Pautler: and tell me when you want me to stop. I got about a bunch of them. But another one that's important to me is every time I make a decision. It doesn't matter how big or how small

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Bill Pautler: I go. Is this decision in love?

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Bill Pautler: Okay, but you have to remember that love's not just that soft, cuddly thing that you let everybody do whatever they want to do. Love can also be, pull out the sword and cut somebody's head off. It depends on what the

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Bill Pautler: the action, the action, or the non-action is

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Bill Pautler: based off of the situation. But if everything you do you truly believe is out of love.

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Bill Pautler: then your heart starts changing, your heart, space opens up. And so there you go. There's and I can tell you a couple more, but that's there's some basics right there. That's all real practical stuff. You don't have to do anything special. You don't have to sit on a mat. You don't have to, you know. Pray this prayer. Kneel, go to church. None of that has to happen to do any of this.

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Bill Pautler: So that's why it's practical.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I love that I love that. So what do you tell people who've been hurt by spiritual abuse or religious deception, or

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: the Church beats them up.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: What wisdom do you have for someone who wants to reconnect with God after feeling betrayed by the church or religion?

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Bill Pautler: You have to understand what religion or church is. Okay, it's God's way to try to point us to man. Okay. But every time in the history of the world.

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Bill Pautler: When you have a saint or a prophet.

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Bill Pautler: they're always crucified in some way. Okay.

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Bill Pautler: because people can't hear the truth.

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Bill Pautler: And when man builds a religious or spiritual organization.

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Bill Pautler: they're trying to build it around a prophet or a saint or a philosophy.

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Bill Pautler: they lose the meaning. Okay, because there's lots of people in the world, and we'll talk about accountants. And I love accountants. Okay? And I love lawyers, too, because they have a purpose. But when you have a prophet

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Bill Pautler: life's not rule-based. Well, it is rule based at some level there is a structure to the universe. And there are basic rules like Karma, things like that. Okay? But when you start going well, you got to go to confession, and you've got to be forgiven of your sins, and you've got to, you know. Burn this incense and all these, you know, and then you've got people inside the church that are fallible because we're all fallible right?

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Bill Pautler: That's part of the process of being here is being able to be forgiven because forgiveness is when you say 4, 4 is the front of something like the 4 of a boat is the front. The word 4 means front. It means in advance. So God forgives us before we ever do anything. Okay, because we have free will. So there's really even no need for forgiveness.

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Bill Pautler: But we think we need to be forgiven. So anyway, once you realize that this church is a man-made thing and everybody, everybody's doing the best they can at any given

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Bill Pautler: moment in time. Okay, it might not always look like very much, but it's they're always doing the best they can at any given moment. So once you step back from that. And you realize that the people that hurt you and the community that's hurt, you have got their own problems and they're fallible, and that you are responsible for your spiritual walk.

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Bill Pautler: Okay, then you take yourself out of victimhood.

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Bill Pautler: and you honor and realize and learn to love yourself.

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Bill Pautler: And then, if you want to go to church, go to church, but you don't need to go to church once you learn how to love yourself, you might still want to go to church just like I like to ride my bicycle or sail my boat, but I don't have to to love myself. Okay.

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Bill Pautler: does that make sense.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I think it makes total sense to me. I I think the whole loved yourself. Piece is is

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: When I when I 1st started out

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: into my religious experience journey, I was desperately seeking love. I wanted

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: God to love me, and I was trying to do everything that I felt I needed to do in order for God to love me. I was trying to be good. I would cover my hair, I wore dresses. For a long time I tried to be obedient. I tried to be something that I fundamentally was not, and I was very miserable.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: but I tried really hard. And then I realized, you know, I could just love myself, and that was going to be good enough. If God is really in us. Then there's nothing outside of us that we have to seek approval from.

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Bill Pautler: Exactly.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And so, yeah, you can go to church or not go to church. And you can have compassion for a lot of those people that are in the churches that are also seeking love, because ultimately.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: you know, we're we're afraid that we're not significant, and that we're not lovable.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And that's the whole backward with stuff thing that you were talking about. We you can't get through childhood without being traumatized. I'm sorry.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: right?

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's the way things are.

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Bill Pautler: Right there. I've traumatized my children.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I died it, too.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: My oldest isn't speaking to me right now. I love her to death. I'm super proud of who she is as a human being. Her daughter is a teenager right now and graduated from high school. And

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I know what she's going through. It's like

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I'm just gonna hold space for you, honey.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and and later on, whether it's in this realm or the next, we'll we'll have a conversation about it, but

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: that's we can do.

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Bill Pautler: Whenever it's right, whenever the unfolding is proper.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yep, and you talk about the kingdom hand being

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: at hand. What does that mean for practical living and daily life?

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Bill Pautler: You know it's the it's the here and now message that the spiritual world says, I mean, I have

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Bill Pautler: I don't have anything else from my past except for memories, and I don't have any future yet.

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Bill Pautler: you realize that truly understand it, and you start to live that way?

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Bill Pautler: The whole concept of time gets a little more fuzzy, gets a little less important right?

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Bill Pautler: And if you're eternal.

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Bill Pautler: this is a moment in your eternal life, which eternal is a long time right that you get to experience.

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Bill Pautler: a heavenly place, a place that you enjoy, that you can have fun in that, I mean, why do we set off on an adventure. Tell you. Tell me, why do we set off on an adventure.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Have an experience.

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Bill Pautler: Exactly okay. And when you go on vacation it's not like being at home, is it?

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Bill Pautler: Everything's not in the right place. You're you can't just go jump in your car. You're waiting in airplanes or buses, or you're walking, and you know and you're you don't know where your next meal necessarily is going to come from. I mean all these things. Okay.

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Bill Pautler: But we go on adventures to have fun right?

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Bill Pautler: This is an adventure.

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Bill Pautler: and once you realize that this is a great, a grand adventure, great big spirit, itty, bitty body, sensual realm.

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Bill Pautler: And it's the here and now. This is your kingdom, sweetheart, this is my kingdom, this is our kingdom

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Bill Pautler: right now.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I love it.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I love that so much.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I know that you offer people 21 attitudes that encourage spiritual awakening. You want to talk a little bit about that.

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Bill Pautler: Yeah, but I don't remember what they are.

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Bill Pautler: that's good, because we want them to go find it.

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Bill Pautler: Yes, it just.

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Bill Pautler: I don't know, you know 21 is a good number. I love that number, and I was just. I wanted to ride a lead magnet per se, and but I also wanted something that people could

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Bill Pautler: I've got some more coming out right. I write a weekly story. I'd like people to know that if you go to my website, you get a free weekly story.

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Bill Pautler: and right now, one of the things I'm writing about is my awakening series, and how you step through practically kind of like we talked today about awakening so and then my book right? I mean in my book, I put little

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Bill Pautler: what it is not experiments, not examples, exercises at the end of each chapter to try and like these things we're talking about

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Bill Pautler: so. But thank you for saying about that, and I have no idea what they are.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Oh, maybe just opted.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Find out next time tune in later we'll tell you what they are.

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Bill Pautler: I'll remember them. I'll have to read them.

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Bill Pautler: I know they're good, though, because I reread them like 6 months ago. I'm like, Oh, damn you wrote, this is pretty good.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I know I love going back, and it's like, Oh, I must have channeled that because I don't remember it.

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Bill Pautler: Exactly.

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Bill Pautler: I just realized that I just was writing a store couple stories. And I was like.

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Bill Pautler: I think I channeled these because I don't even remember writing them.

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Bill Pautler: So I that's just something I literally learned in the last couple of weeks. I.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Channel a lot more than we think we do when we're especially when we're talking. Do you actually provide coaching for people, or are you like, mostly encouraging them to buy your book and follow you on.

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Bill Pautler: Buy my book. Follow me wherever you follow me, you know, especially my stories. And I get Youtube pages coming up pretty soon, and substack will come up at some point in time, too. Thank you very much. I did do some coaching for a while. I didn't like it.

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Bill Pautler: Oh.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Fair enough.

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Bill Pautler: You know. So I just shut it all down. A lot of people do come for years and years. People

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Bill Pautler: call me up out of the blue People. I know. I mean, I had 3 of them happen this last

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Bill Pautler: 60, 90 days, or something. No, 60 days, but 3 random people just call me up and go

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Bill Pautler: anywhere from business problems. But they're all wound. Even the business problems are wound up in

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Bill Pautler: personal and spiritual stuff.

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Bill Pautler: So people call me up and just ask me for wisdom. I mean, if anybody really has an issue.

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Bill Pautler: you can get me on my website. Send me an email. Send me a text, whatever

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Bill Pautler: I'll answer you. I.

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Bill Pautler: My goal is just to help people.

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Bill Pautler: I went through so much stuff. It took me 30 years to kind of awaken per se. And I've been through lots of spiritual experiences. And

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Bill Pautler: I don't want to leave anybody behind. So if anybody needs help in any way they can find me.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Thank you. Thank you for being there for people.

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Bill Pautler: Yeah.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And thank you for joining me today, Bill. This has been a great conversation.

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Bill Pautler: It has. And, Jill, I know you know this. But do you know the definition of Namaste? Do you know what the word Namaste means?

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Think I knew at 1 point I

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: the way I think of it, based on what I thought I knew of it was like my spirit with yours, and your spirit with mine.

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Bill Pautler: Yeah, that's pretty close. The I like to remind people because we a lot of times we use these terms, and we forget what their meanings are but Namaste. The literal translation of Namaste means the divide in me honors

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Bill Pautler: fine, and you so

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Bill Pautler: I would say, Namaste to you, Jill. Thank you very much. My spirit honors your spirit.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And mine honors yours.

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Bill Pautler: Thank you.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: To learn more about Bill, and to find the 21 attitudes that encourage spiritual awakening. Please visit awakeningtoourselves.com, and we'll be sure to put that link in the show notes below. Thank you for tuning in with us today. If you have a podcast or you're interested in starting one be sure to reach out to us at support@heartlifecoach.com. We love to help spiritual entrepreneurs and coaches amplify their voice and monetize their mission and offer a variety of ways to do that leveraging substack

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