Beth

Welcome to this episode of Horrific History and Hauntings. I'm Beth.

Ramie

And I'm Ramie. We're your hosts, here to talk about the stories that the history books ignore.

Beth

From horrific epidemics and ghostly hauntings to the catastrophes and tragic events that have sickened humanity.

Ramie

We're back. This will be the first episode that comes out after the air power outage and all the floods and the hurricane and all that stuff. The next episode that comes out on Wednesday, we'll have more details about the area that we live in and how it was hit. Not a lot, just more detail.

Beth

It'll be out on Wednesday.

Ramie

Yeah, we will. If there, we can get the local fire department to give us a recommended donation to the spot for the flooding. We'll leave a link to the description for that. If it isn't down there, it's because we couldn't get a link from them that they trusted. So we don't want to put something nobody trusts. Appreciate it if you do.

Beth

Also, Damascus could use it.

Ramie

Yeah, we lived near Damascus and it got really hit hard. We just lost power and couldn't do anything for a while. But they. They got washed off pretty much. It's bad. Other places got hit really bad, too. It's just we know about this and more because we're right next to it. Also, I have created a Facebook group for horrific history and hauntings. Also be a Facebook page that is defunct. Facebook kept taking in all of our links because they were captivate links from our hosting site for the podcast. So the account is just dead. But the group is still open. So there'll be a link in the link tree. Now that for the Facebook group, I encourage whoever's on Facebook, it wants to follow, go there and follow, and there'll be a community. Hopefully, if we build it up right. Right now, there's just a few episodes to older podcasts that I've started putting up there to catch up to what we've done so far. I guess that's it. We're recording this episode after we recorded Wednesday's episode.

Beth

Yeah. So that's why Wednesdays is longer.

Ramie

That's why. Onwards. Beth, are we gonna do a thing that happened in history?

Beth

Well, first, our main topic is going to be about Gore orphanage.

Ramie

That's a horrible name.

Beth

And Gore Orphanage Road and a mansion that was nearby. But today in history, I'm not gonna go into detail. October 5, they were recording in 2011, Apple co founder Steve Jobs. Steve Jobs died.

Ramie

Oh, I just got my new iPad in today.

Beth

Your piece of paper it's so thin.

Ramie

I remember his iPhone release. Who doesn't if they watched it? He brought Apple back from the brink of death and now it's a trillion dollar company.

Beth

Yeah, I enjoy my Apple product.

Ramie

I do. I also use Samsung and I have two phones. One's for the podcast and for my delivery job and one's for just general use.

Beth

My iPad is definitely really handy when it comes to taking notes and research for this.

Ramie

Yeah.

Beth

Where I have my goodnotes app especially.

Ramie

I use the MacBook to edit the podcasts and anything else we do, as well as the iPad as well as all my PDF's I read on here, but I have the PC for gaming and the Xbox for gaming. Anything work related or anything serious I gotta do is done on the Macs and apples of the world.

Beth

Apple is not a sponsor, by the way.

Ramie

I wish Apple was sponsored.

Beth

That would be amazing. It just so happened that the day we were recording Steve Jobs, that was our today in history and we just really love Apple products.

Ramie

Oh, I don't really love them. I do agree. They take something and rename it and say it's the best thing to hit Apple. Not mentioning it's been on Android for years. They do do that. So.

Beth

See, I used to be an Android person when Apple first started becoming a big thing and I got one Apple phone iPhone and I hated it. Hated it.

Ramie

You didn't like them until the X came along all screen. That's when you started liking them.

Beth

Maybe. I just had so much trouble out of the first one.

Ramie

You haven't had another Android since we got the XR for you.

Beth

Yeah.

Ramie

So that's. That's when you took a liking to him.

Beth

Yeah. Off topic.

Ramie

Way off topic. I could do a tech podcast. I would love to do a tech podcast because I get so much tech. I haven't got the camera set up.

Beth

To do the reviews and I get the hand me downs from you, but you still.

Ramie

You get an m one iPad pro.

Beth

I love it.

Ramie

13 inch.

Beth

When the first night I took it home, I scribbled on it with my good notes in the pen so much that my wrist. I had to put an ice pack on my wrist. Yeah, it hurts so bad.

Ramie

That's how we do. When I got the 16 Pro Max iPhone, I gave you the 14 Pro Max and you said, it's great compared to your 13 mini.

Beth

Yeah.

Ramie

Did we talk about what happened to, oh, Apple C two?

Beth

Yeah, that's how we got on that subject, apparently. Don't ever bring up Steve Jobs again.

Ramie

I don't really idolize the dude.

Beth

I don't know anything about him except for Apple. Goro orphanage. Over a century ago, in the countryside of vermilion, a massive fire consumed an old orphanage on Gore Road.

Ramie

I still think it's a weird name.

Beth

It is.

Ramie

I would live on Gore Road.

Beth

Happily, dozens of young children were trapped inside. Helpless onlookers watched in horror. The children's screams eventually faded, only leaving the crackling roar of the fire. Over 100 children lost their lives, and the building collapsed, leaving behind only its foundation and stone pillars. Light of hope, which apparently was the real name of the orphanage. There was a few different sources, a few different ways this went.

Ramie

Okay.

Beth

Yeah. It was founded in 1902 by Reverend Johann Sprunger. Was a man who was motivated by strong religious passion. The orphanage stood on Gore Road, which was a road that had its own strange history. The legend of Gore orphanage, while exaggerated, is rooted in a very real tragedy. The orphanage did burn down, and it did take the lives of many innocent children with it. Juhan and Catherine Sprunger was a couple with a knack for attracting misfortune. They moved to Vermillion after their orphanage in Bern, Indiana.

Ramie

Indiana.

Beth

Indiana burned down. Three little girls died in that fire. Katherina shared the same last name as her husband, even though they weren't siblings. However, a diary from their Indiana orphanage refers to them as brother and sister Sprunger. So who knows what was happening there, what the deal was. This wasn't the first time the Sprungers business went up in flames. Oddly enough, before moving to Ohio, they also lost two of their own children, their seven year old daughter and a baby son. These tragedies seemed to push them even deeper into their religious beliefs, so they packed up their bags and headed to Ohio for a fresh start with the new orphanage just outside of Vermillion, there was a 543 acre chunk of land with old farm buildings and a spooky abandoned mansion. It was built back in the 18 hundreds by a rich farmer named Joseph Swift. Swift's kids died young, and he lost all of his money.

Ramie

Oh, dear.

Beth

So the house was sold to Nicholas Wilbur, who was into spiritualism, seances, talking to ghosts, so on and so forth.

Ramie

As one does.

Beth

Yeah. People said the mansion was haunted by the ghost of children and that Wilbur's kids were supposedly psychic.

Ramie

That's a leap all of a sudden, just out of the blue.

Beth

Yeah, it's strange. Rumors flew around that some of Wilbur's grandkids actually died in the mansion and were buried there, even though official records say they died somewhere else. By 1901, the house was empty and quickly became a hotspot for teenagers. Reverend Sprunger wasn't interested in the old mansion. He wanted to create a whole new community on the land that focused on faith and hard work. A cult, sounds like it. Or commune, I think commune, but I don't know. He and his team had a chapel built right into the boys schoolhouse. The orphanage was a big operation which housed up to 120 kids at a time. The boys and the girls lived on separate farms.

Ramie

They didn't get a church for the girls, a nunnery or something.

Beth

I'm sure they probably did. Or maybe they made them walk all the way to the boys church. They also had their own printing press to make their own school books. I highly doubt they were learning anything useful.

Ramie

That sounds like a religious bias.

Beth

Newspaper was also called the light of hope.

Ramie

That's a good one, actually.

Beth

I like that name, the light of hope. Why does your orphanages keep lighting up in flames?

Ramie

That does. Very good question behind it.

Beth

Eventually, talk of something sinister started to spread about the light of hope. Orphanage kids were running away and would sometimes even cross the Vermilion river to get to safety. In town, they told horrifying tales of being neglected, forced to work like slaves, and being beaten. They said the food was awful, if there was any food at all, and that the living conditions were terrible, with rats infesting the rooms and very little chance for basic hygiene. Sprunger and his overseers were accused of brutal punishments, such as whipping the children until their skin was raw. He was even said to rent out the children for to farmers. If any of the kids got sick, they were only offered prayers.

Ramie

Now, that's thoughts and prayers. That's the thing for today. They need to learn. If it's all you got, then fine. I'd hate to imagine a situation where that's all you have.

Beth

Medication, doctors.

Ramie

Yep.

Beth

And their education was severely lacking, probably because they were writing their own books of nonsense. Most likely, yeah. An investigation was launched in. I'm gonna assume I meant 1890, but I typed 1090. I'm gonna assume it was 1890. Pretty sure it was. But Ohio had no laws to regulate orphanages at the time. I'm sure they definitely didn't in 1090.

Ramie

Yeah.

Beth

So nothing could be done. And even worse, the sprunger people admitted to many of the awful accusations against them.

Ramie

Yeah, we make sure these kids pay their wages. What are you talking about?

Beth

In 1908, a tragedy shook the town of Collinwood, just a short distance from Vermillion. A fire erupted at an elementary school, trapping 176 students inside. The place became chaotic as the children tried to escape down the stairs, but the front exit was blocked by flames. In a panic, some tried to push their way back up, only to be forced back down into the fire by those behind them. The rear exit was locked, and even when rescuers finally opened it, the pressure of the crowd inside made it impossible to escape. The fire spread rapidly while engulfing the children in flames. Their screams were said to be heart wrenching and unforgettable.

Ramie

I would imagine so, yeah.

Beth

In the aftermath, the school's janitor was wrongly accused of starting the fire. Despite losing his own kids in the fire and suffering burns while trying to save others, he was briefly held in protective custody to shield him from an angry mob who wanted to lynch him.

Ramie

Freddy Krueger.

Beth

Yep.

Ramie

Oh, Freddie actually did it.

Beth

But, yeah, Freddie actually did it.

Ramie

Yeah.

Beth

Mister Sprunger passed away in 1911, and the orphanage closed its doors for good in 1916 due to financial struggles.

Ramie

Looks like if they were treating kids so poorly, they wouldn't need that much money.

Beth

Yeah. The property changed hands, and most of the buildings were demolished or destroyed by the fire, leaving only the Hughes house as a reminder of its existence. The children were freed from their nightmares. Some were reunited with family, while others found homes within the community. Many still remained silent about their traumatic experiences because they were afraid to speak out. A few with nowhere to turn were taken back to Indiana by Miss Brunger. Meanwhile, the swift mansion, untouched by the orphanage, became a magnet for thrill seeking vandals.

Ramie

It has so many other places like it do.

Beth

It's believed one of them accidentally burned it down in 1923.

Ramie

Accidentally?

Beth

Yeah. The once grand house is now only graffiti covered sandstone blocks. Over time, the stories surrounding the orphanage and the mansion intertwined. Early tales suggested that Miss Williber was driven mad by grief and continued to set the table for her lost children, which didn't make sense to me because I didn't see where Miss Wilbur's or Misses Wilbur's children died. I saw where the other person before that owned the mansions died. But she was said to tuck them into bed each night. And some claim the kids were psychic. So people have made this story so twisted that it's starting to not make sense. And apparently her kids were capable of communicating with the spirits of deceased children. I'm guessing some say that her children died, but others say that she had children that could communicate with spirits and deceased children. As the 19 hundreds came about, teenagers started venturing into the abandoned gore orphanage and turned it into their own spooky hangout spot. Remember, the Gore orphanage burned down, so I'm assuming they thought the mansion was part of it. Although no documented deaths occurred at the orphanage or Swift's hollow, the tales of abuse, neglect, and occult practices went around. So there's another twist.

Ramie

Of course.

Beth

Some speculate that the spirits of the Collinwood fire victims found their way to this location. Doesn't make sense, but, okay, possibly they were drowned by the energy of the forgotten children. Drawn, not drown, or were searching for the Willbird children. So it's all over the place. Are you confused yet?

Ramie

Yeah.

Beth

Okay. Yeah, it confused me too, but I had already started taking notes, so. But from what I understand, the mansion burned down. Collinwood is not even encore Orphanage Road. But all these stories people have managed to mix up and twist together makes a better story. Yeah. Paranormal experts suggest the ghostly encounters on Gore Orphanage Road could be imprints, which is the echo of past traumas. These imprints, often triggered by violent events, can replay manifesting as sights, sounds, feelings, and smells. Tragic imprints might even relocate to other places with high paranormal activity. Oh, I'd never heard that part before.

Ramie

Oh, I didn't either. So just to kind of go down the road a bit, it's a little better place to spook folks, I guess.

Beth

While Reverend Sprunger's body is in Indiana, some believe his spirit still roams the grounds of the light of hope community. Katherina Sprunger left the area in 1916 and never returned. She died in 1953. Countless visitors to Gore Orphanage Road have reported ghostly figures, orbs of light, screams of children, and visions of fire. Many have claimed to have found dusty, child sized fingerprints on their cars upon returning to them. And then there's other versions of the story, of course. One night, a fire broke out and burned the whole place down. But it is unknown what exactly happened. There were a few rumors that the owner did it for insurance money. An angry employee wanted revenge on the owner. A crazy man who lived in the woods started the fire. It was said that this crazy man just hated all the noise the kids made.

Ramie

All the wells of torment for orphanage.

Beth

Yeah, or it was just an accident. Such as? Perhaps maybe someone knocked over a lantern.

Ramie

No child would admit it if they. I mean, didn't burn already.

Beth

Yeah. Eventually, eerie tales and unsettling occurrences began being told around the community. People said they saw ghostly shapes of children, fire, hauntings in the woods. They heard cries for help echoing throughout the night, strange lights dancing among the trees. Some claimed to feel the presence of the person who started the fire. And that a shadowy figure lingers near the ruins. The swift mansion. The deaths of four young grandchildren within a week, possibly due to diphtheria.

Ramie

Diphtheria? Yeah.

Beth

What's that?

Ramie

I don't remember. I heard about it on Downton Abbey. I think it's like fluid around something. It shouldn't be the heart, probably.

Beth

Maybe. I don't know. I have to look that one up. This caused the Wilburs to be heartbroken, so they would perform seances and such. The legend of the Gore orphanage and the tragic death, Wilbur's grandchildren, with the mansion's connection to the orphanage, as well as the mysterious fire, all contributed to this story. And as I said, while the details are exaggerated and twisted all up and fabricated, they are basically on real events. So a fire did happen.

Ramie

We just don't know much else.

Beth

And as far as I know, somebody died somewhere.

Ramie

We could just guess to the rest of it.

Beth

Yeah, if y'all can figure that one out, let me know.

Ramie

Surely the local. I don't know, maybe the local ones. The locals?

Beth

I think the locals are probably the ones that came up with all this twists and turns and craziness.

Ramie

Is that the end of it?

Beth

Yeah, that's the end.

Ramie

Okay. Yeah.

Beth

I wasn't about to go through all the other story tales. It's supposed to be short.

Ramie

Okay. Yeah, that was a good one. It was very tragic. Even if the ghostly part wasn't true. Something bad happened. Yeah, children are mistreated for sure. I never even heard of this place. A great name. They should have known something was going to go wrong as soon as they had that name. Gore. If you listen to this, look forward to the next episode. Couple days. Don't forget to check out the Facebook group in the link tree and check out our website at the top link to figure out all of our their podcasts and other episodes we've had. Please leave a review if you have an app that lets you do that, pocketcast now, let you do that and reach out to us at the emails below the link tree to give us more ideas. If you don't want to join a Facebook group or just say hi. Also, there's a link below all those links to send us a tip to help keep the podcast hosted, basically. And if we can find the link to the flood relief that we trust for Appalachia in the area here, we'll put that in the description. If it's not there, then we couldn't find one we truly trust. So disregard all that. Thank you for listening to this episode of horrors in a hurry. Is that what it's called?

Beth

Yeah.

Ramie

Yay. I named. I named it something, right? I have been Raimi.

Beth

And I'm Ben.

Ramie

And this has been h. H. And h. Bye.