1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:05,160 Janice Porter: Ben, hello, hello, and welcome to this 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:09,720 week's episode of relationships rule the show that explores the 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,320 power of authentic connection in building a life and a business 4 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:17,280 that you love. Today, we're joined by Beverly Glazer, a 5 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,180 seasoned therapist, a transformational coach and 6 00:00:20,180 --> 00:00:25,640 founder of reinvent impossible, backed by over 35 years of real 7 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,520 world results, Beverly helps high performing people to 8 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:32,180 navigate transitions in both life and business by taking 9 00:00:32,180 --> 00:00:37,760 clear, strategic mind shifting actions through a unique blend 10 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:41,500 of emotional intelligence and strategic life design. Beverly 11 00:00:41,500 --> 00:00:45,340 brings deep, emotional mastery and sharp, actionable insight to 12 00:00:45,340 --> 00:00:48,520 help you quickly navigate personal and professional 13 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,540 challenges and step into your next big chapter with clarity, 14 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:56,860 confidence and ease. She is the host of the acclaimed podcast, 15 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:01,800 aging with purpose and passion, and her website, reinvent 16 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,860 impossible, has a lot of interesting information that I 17 00:01:04,980 --> 00:01:10,320 urge you to check out after the show. So welcome. Welcome to the 18 00:01:10,320 --> 00:01:10,800 show. 19 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,980 Beverley Glazer: Thank you for inviting me. Thanks so much. 20 00:01:13,980 --> 00:01:14,820 Well, a fellow 21 00:01:14,820 --> 00:01:18,360 Janice Porter: Canadian, how can I not? I mean, it was kind of 22 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,800 cool. I think we met on LinkedIn, if I'm not mistaken, I 23 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,860 Beverley Glazer: think so. Janice, yes, yes, you're on the 24 00:01:24,860 --> 00:01:25,940 warmer side. 25 00:01:27,380 --> 00:01:30,500 Janice Porter: Yeah, Canada, yes, yeah. You come from 26 00:01:30,500 --> 00:01:33,440 Montreal. You're in Montreal, which is Montreal. Yeah, 27 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:39,800 beautiful city. So I want to know, I know that you, you were 28 00:01:39,860 --> 00:01:43,180 a traditional therapist for many years, psychotherapist for many 29 00:01:43,180 --> 00:01:47,740 years. And I know that coaching became a thing, because I 30 00:01:47,740 --> 00:01:53,860 remember, in my transition from corporate to working on my own, 31 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:59,380 coaching was just coming into I'm showing my age now, but some 32 00:01:59,380 --> 00:02:02,880 coaching was just coming to existence, and I started to look 33 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,960 at it for me, as a possible path, because I'd been a 34 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,020 teacher, not because I'd been a therapist, but because I'd been 35 00:02:10,020 --> 00:02:12,960 a teacher. And of course, I discovered at that time it was 36 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:17,760 so expensive to take the coaching credentials that it 37 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:22,280 scared me off completely. And I also started to realize that 38 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,620 teaching and coaching are completely different things, 39 00:02:24,620 --> 00:02:27,020 which, yes, you're nodding your head, and I know that you know 40 00:02:27,020 --> 00:02:32,180 that so but for you, what sparked, what was that moment 41 00:02:32,180 --> 00:02:36,260 that sparked that interest for you into the world of 42 00:02:36,260 --> 00:02:37,700 transformation coaching? 43 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,220 Beverley Glazer: Oh, that's a wonderful question, okay, it 44 00:02:42,220 --> 00:02:46,720 really is, because, as a professional, and as, you know, 45 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,560 as a teacher, you work really hard to get your credentials. 46 00:02:51,340 --> 00:02:55,540 And then I saw all these people going out as coaches, and I'm 47 00:02:55,540 --> 00:02:59,920 saying, My goodness, you know, I don't want to do that. It's 48 00:02:59,920 --> 00:03:03,960 like, this is terrible, you know? And, yeah, that's my 49 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:09,240 immediate reaction, I have to say. And then I just continued. 50 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:13,320 I was on my path helping people all the time. This is what I do. 51 00:03:13,500 --> 00:03:21,560 This is what I know. And as COVID hit, I started to realize, 52 00:03:21,620 --> 00:03:25,760 I mean, we I started to understand coaching more. I 53 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,840 started to see that coaching is in many different areas. And 54 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,860 what I did is I got my IFC certification because, like 55 00:03:33,860 --> 00:03:38,180 everything else, I want to do it the right way, yeah, and learn 56 00:03:38,180 --> 00:03:41,560 the right way. And I took a look at that, not, yes, I'm able to 57 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,200 do it, and I understand that there are business coaches and 58 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:49,780 all kinds of coaches, right? Sports go, and I had a lot of 59 00:03:49,780 --> 00:03:56,680 clients that travel, and I realized that what I do is not 60 00:03:56,860 --> 00:04:04,140 only therapy, everybody needs help at one time or another, but 61 00:04:04,140 --> 00:04:10,980 not everybody needs therapy. And at the time of the pandemic, 62 00:04:10,980 --> 00:04:16,080 when things were changing, it gave me time to think, because I 63 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:20,960 had a very busy private practice, I had a radio show. I 64 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:25,160 was, you know, everywhere you'd have no time to think, right? 65 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:30,920 And people were calling me and I'm working and I'm saying, wow, 66 00:04:30,980 --> 00:04:33,560 you know, because I love doing what I'm doing, and I love 67 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:40,040 helping people. So what happened is I had that pause, and people 68 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:45,280 were still seeing me online, and I continued with that, and 69 00:04:45,340 --> 00:04:48,940 because I had that radio show and was speaking, really to the 70 00:04:48,940 --> 00:04:52,060 world, and when you speak to the world, you start to you know 71 00:04:52,060 --> 00:04:56,200 you're only talking at a studio, not realizing you're speaking to 72 00:04:56,200 --> 00:05:01,020 the world. You're talking to the newsman. You. And the production 73 00:05:01,020 --> 00:05:07,140 person, but when you're speaking out there, right, the voices, 74 00:05:07,140 --> 00:05:11,880 the people that you reach are so many, and you can make much more 75 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:17,940 of an impact. And I realized that if I reach out online, I 76 00:05:17,940 --> 00:05:22,400 can help so many more people. And that's where I started to 77 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:26,660 see that some people, of course, call me a coach, some people 78 00:05:26,660 --> 00:05:29,300 call me a therapist, depending on where they're coming from, 79 00:05:29,660 --> 00:05:35,180 I'm really a strategic advisor. Janice, and that's what I do. 80 00:05:36,380 --> 00:05:42,820 And today I've pivoted more and more into strategy for business, 81 00:05:43,420 --> 00:05:47,020 because it's not only business, it's strategy for business, and 82 00:05:47,020 --> 00:05:52,420 it's also strategy for life. And when people come the problems 83 00:05:52,420 --> 00:05:56,140 that they often come for are not what they're actually even 84 00:05:56,140 --> 00:06:03,060 working on, because there's so much depth to that. And people 85 00:06:03,060 --> 00:06:08,820 know strategy. They're given the tools. They know what to do. But 86 00:06:08,820 --> 00:06:14,280 what happens is you really need the combination of the skills of 87 00:06:14,340 --> 00:06:18,540 people, tools, working with other people, problems with 88 00:06:18,540 --> 00:06:23,180 teams, problems that's going on on the back end, and they don't 89 00:06:23,180 --> 00:06:28,520 realize that it's about communication. It's it's really 90 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:33,320 about giving clarity, and you can get so much more revenue 91 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:37,880 with that if the communication to with boards, communication 92 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:42,880 with teams and customers, and you know, it's all about that, 93 00:06:42,940 --> 00:06:46,660 and also how to extend your energy, because we only have so 94 00:06:46,660 --> 00:06:50,020 many hours in a day. And like I was saying, a lot of my clients 95 00:06:50,020 --> 00:06:56,020 travel. I work with many C suite people, many people that are 96 00:06:56,140 --> 00:07:00,840 stressed beyond belief, and here they are having to come home and 97 00:07:00,840 --> 00:07:03,840 take out the garbage. You know, they're dealing with the 98 00:07:03,840 --> 00:07:07,500 personal problems, and they don't have time for that and 99 00:07:07,740 --> 00:07:11,640 what, and you'll have it. You know, with men, with women, it's 100 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:16,080 be able to bring this balance into your life, to be able to 101 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:22,700 make your business fun, not just stress, because when it's 102 00:07:22,700 --> 00:07:28,640 combined with life and business, you're flying, you know you're 103 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,420 flying. And so this is what I love to do, and this is what I 104 00:07:32,420 --> 00:07:32,840 do today. 105 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:40,720 Janice Porter: So I just went black blank on your podcast 106 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:41,980 name, which is 107 00:07:42,460 --> 00:07:44,860 Beverley Glazer: my podcast name, aging with purpose and 108 00:07:44,860 --> 00:07:45,760 passion, right? Aging 109 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,920 Janice Porter: with purpose and passion, which I love, I love 110 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:52,900 that that name, and I think that you have said and correct me if 111 00:07:52,900 --> 00:07:56,740 I'm wrong, but that midlife is a time of awakening. What do you 112 00:07:56,740 --> 00:08:00,040 mean by that? That's exciting. That's exciting, actually, I 113 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:01,860 find. But what do you mean by that? 114 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,580 Beverley Glazer: Well, I find, and I'm past midlife, that there 115 00:08:05,580 --> 00:08:11,160 are many awakenings, but at midlife, it's like, oh my 116 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:19,020 goodness, I'm old, not old. I have so much life ahead. When 117 00:08:19,020 --> 00:08:23,120 you're in corporate though, you can start to feel old ageism is 118 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:28,640 real. And when you look at the marketing for women, and I'm 119 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,780 talking about 50, and this is why I really focus on that 120 00:08:32,780 --> 00:08:38,720 demographics, it's it's like my children are leaving. It looks 121 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:42,100 like my appearance seems to be changing a lot. I'm starting to 122 00:08:42,100 --> 00:08:49,180 look like my mother, and that's personal, but you're starting to 123 00:08:49,180 --> 00:08:57,580 see that there's more and yet, what next very often, and is 124 00:08:57,580 --> 00:09:01,920 there a next? And sometimes you take a look and Mr. Wonderful 125 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,400 has changed, or he's not that wonderful. Or do I have like, 126 00:09:05,460 --> 00:09:11,100 I've heard this so many times. What's next? What do I do? And 127 00:09:11,700 --> 00:09:15,960 it's really about sorting things out, and it's getting that aha 128 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:20,420 moment that you have to be comfortable with yourself no 129 00:09:20,420 --> 00:09:25,280 matter where you are and what you do. And I also have found 130 00:09:25,340 --> 00:09:29,780 that that was the time where you're thinking perhaps of 131 00:09:29,780 --> 00:09:34,280 retiring, and may not want to retire, and that is your life, 132 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:38,000 because your business is your life, you know. And you say, all 133 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,320 my friends are the ones in the office, because I really have 134 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,740 very few friends on the outside. So it's about building and 135 00:09:44,740 --> 00:09:50,020 developing, and it's around 5055, where we get that. So yes, 136 00:09:50,020 --> 00:09:51,400 that's a real awakening, 137 00:09:52,060 --> 00:09:55,960 Janice Porter: yeah, and I think, I think it that comes in 138 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,600 different ways, and in that different times for people, I 139 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:02,040 remember it. Is what's going on in your life? Because I remember 140 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:09,300 having a huge awakening when I came out of my first marriage, 141 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,480 and that was, you know, I was only I was very young when I got 142 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:17,400 married, I had my first child, and then my picket fence fell 143 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:21,380 down. Is what I what I taught, said to myself, but a lot of 144 00:10:21,380 --> 00:10:25,460 things happened for me then that that were a huge awakening. 145 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,820 Like, I didn't want to be by myself. I couldn't handle being 146 00:10:28,820 --> 00:10:31,340 by myself. I was on the phone every night talking to my 147 00:10:31,340 --> 00:10:34,820 girlfriends because I couldn't be alone. And so you have to 148 00:10:34,820 --> 00:10:40,840 learn, you know, to to to love yourself and to accept that 149 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:44,200 that's a good thing sometimes, like be alone, not lonely, and 150 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,560 things like that. So that, for me, was one big awakening. I 151 00:10:47,560 --> 00:10:52,720 also remember I look at my one of my daughters, who's in that 152 00:10:52,960 --> 00:11:01,980 50 So there I've given my myself away, but she is now at the 153 00:11:01,980 --> 00:11:05,580 threshold or the pinnacle of her career. She's in a big 154 00:11:05,580 --> 00:11:08,460 leadership role, and she's having to learn her way into 155 00:11:08,460 --> 00:11:11,760 that. But, you know, there were things in her life that didn't 156 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:15,660 happen that she wanted, so that's now a focus. But is it an 157 00:11:15,660 --> 00:11:19,380 awakening or what I don't know, there's so many different things 158 00:11:19,380 --> 00:11:24,080 that come into play, so I want to just shift that, not shift 159 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,960 it, but move it a little bit and ask, what role do you think 160 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:31,580 relationships play in helping or hindering someone's ability to 161 00:11:32,420 --> 00:11:37,100 reinvent themselves or to grow into that new per, You know, 162 00:11:37,100 --> 00:11:38,060 transformation? 163 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,500 Beverley Glazer: That's really another wonderful question, 164 00:11:41,500 --> 00:11:45,640 because we were just talking about this on my podcast 165 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:54,460 yesterday, which is, what role okay? Is that a reawakening? 166 00:11:54,580 --> 00:11:59,620 Right? What? What goes on with relationships? You may have that 167 00:11:59,620 --> 00:12:06,540 aha moment, but your husband and wife maybe not. And so you have 168 00:12:06,540 --> 00:12:12,060 to have support. You have to have somebody that says, I have 169 00:12:12,060 --> 00:12:15,960 your back, and I can tell you honestly, in my case, it's my 170 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:23,360 husband, and anything I do, he supports and I think that's a 171 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:28,700 wonderful thing, because if you decide to pivot, and I have 172 00:12:28,700 --> 00:12:33,200 clients right now where she's continuing running her business, 173 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,740 she's a founder, and we're working on, you know, this 174 00:12:36,740 --> 00:12:40,220 feeling of sabotaging herself because she doesn't feel that 175 00:12:40,220 --> 00:12:43,420 She's really good enough to stand on stages and do all these 176 00:12:43,420 --> 00:12:51,700 things, and her husband has just retired, and so how do you shift 177 00:12:51,700 --> 00:12:57,460 that when, as she said, these are his words, he's happy 178 00:12:57,460 --> 00:13:03,900 watching grass grow, and she's on the next plane, you know, 179 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:11,100 yeah. So what happens is, he gives her 100% support. That's 180 00:13:11,100 --> 00:13:14,760 great. That's great. And so we have to understand each other, 181 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:21,320 because that's when things dissolve. And I also have to say 182 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:25,640 that that's something that each individual has to sort 183 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:29,720 themselves out to because no one should feel that they're a 184 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:33,080 victim, and no one should have to feel that they're strapped 185 00:13:33,140 --> 00:13:38,480 and stuck. Everyone should find their purpose, and everyone has 186 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:43,360 to feel that they matter, and otherwise there's no purpose 187 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:47,980 getting up in the morning, you know, and so we can't sacrifice 188 00:13:47,980 --> 00:13:52,300 ourselves for someone else, but it's really a good thing to be 189 00:13:52,300 --> 00:13:56,620 able to have someone in the first place to be on board and 190 00:13:56,620 --> 00:13:59,680 say, you Know, whatever you do, 191 00:14:00,460 --> 00:14:05,760 Janice Porter: yeah, that's so important. I find that a lot of 192 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:12,000 my friends, either retired or or never really worked. They out of 193 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:19,680 the home and and now I could, you know, I I work more than I 194 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:24,320 don't work, but I love what I do. So why wouldn't I, you know? 195 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,620 Because if I'm not doing what I'm doing, I'm out spending 196 00:14:27,620 --> 00:14:33,800 money, or I'm bored. So I don't know. I just find it's really 197 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,200 interesting. So I think retirement today is a very 198 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:40,600 different thing for for every everybody. So you work a lot 199 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:44,680 with high performing women. What patterns or challenges do you 200 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:49,480 see most often at that sort of midlife stage? 201 00:14:51,220 --> 00:14:54,040 Beverley Glazer: The challenges at midlife, and not only at 202 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,160 midlife, I think it's for every woman that's working. Okay, fair 203 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:02,100 enough. It is, you know, it's, it's really. Me, should I really 204 00:15:02,100 --> 00:15:05,040 be doing this? And I'm talking even personally for myself, 205 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,100 Janice Porter: because same as what I just said, right, should 206 00:15:08,100 --> 00:15:09,060 I be doing this 207 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:14,880 Beverley Glazer: exactly? You're always every single day, the 208 00:15:14,940 --> 00:15:18,420 older you are, you're hit with that as younger people come up. 209 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:26,120 And we have to understand that we have value, and remember 210 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:33,080 that, and that no matter how old you are, we've been through all 211 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:38,300 these different twists and turns in the road, and they matter, 212 00:15:38,420 --> 00:15:45,280 and they've taught us something. And so what a big problem is to 213 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:49,300 start looking on social media, where you see that you're never 214 00:15:49,300 --> 00:15:57,220 good enough, right? And and you start comparing with who you are 215 00:15:57,220 --> 00:16:01,800 and what you should be, etc, etc. And so that would be one of 216 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:07,200 the biggest problems with women in the workforce. It's like, you 217 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,560 know, why am I doing this? And sometimes it's perfectly natural 218 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:15,720 to say, I don't want to be doing this, but always go back to your 219 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:19,740 why. And this is something that I always suggest, and I do it 220 00:16:19,740 --> 00:16:26,300 myself, you know. And on those days where I say, Ah, why am I 221 00:16:26,300 --> 00:16:31,820 doing this? I'm really thinking of my why, and immediately I 222 00:16:31,820 --> 00:16:35,840 don't want to do anything else. I really do. It's just one of 223 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,900 those days or one of those minutes, because when you're 224 00:16:38,900 --> 00:16:44,080 working, it's not all fun and games. It's work. And there's 225 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,140 things that I love to do, like working with my clients, and 226 00:16:47,140 --> 00:16:52,300 there's other things that maybe not so much, like all that admin 227 00:16:52,300 --> 00:16:57,280 stuff that you write people, you know. So yes, yes, we have to go 228 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,220 back to the why. Why are we doing this in the first place? 229 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,900 Janice Porter: Yeah, that's so true. And you have a statement 230 00:17:03,900 --> 00:17:07,800 on your on your website that I love you are never too old, and 231 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:12,660 it is never too late to reinvent yourself with passion. And I 232 00:17:12,660 --> 00:17:15,420 love that because I agree. I think that when you find 233 00:17:15,420 --> 00:17:19,020 something that gives you joy and that you're really, really 234 00:17:19,020 --> 00:17:23,000 passionate about, it isn't work. You know that part is not work. 235 00:17:23,180 --> 00:17:26,300 The thing that that keeps coming in my head, that I remember 236 00:17:26,300 --> 00:17:30,320 experiencing one time, and I think that work, whatever that 237 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:34,820 looks like for you, for me, helps me with and that is that I 238 00:17:34,820 --> 00:17:38,480 was once told, and I'll never forget this, because it was at a 239 00:17:39,020 --> 00:17:44,560 at a week long personal development thing in the in the 240 00:17:46,060 --> 00:17:49,420 in Northern California, up at a ranch, and we were doing this 241 00:17:49,420 --> 00:17:54,100 exercise in a big gymnasium, and the one of the big wigs of the 242 00:17:54,100 --> 00:17:57,460 company was doing the exercise with us, and she came up to me 243 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:03,360 and told me that I was invisible. Oh yeah, whoa, it was 244 00:18:03,360 --> 00:18:07,080 a women's thing, as I recall, and and I'm like, that stuck 245 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:11,040 with me for so long, because I was always the person that spoke 246 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,920 up first. I was always the person that, you know, answered 247 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:18,420 the questions or led the group or whatever. And somehow I lost 248 00:18:18,420 --> 00:18:23,900 that. If that's what she said to me that I was invisible, but I 249 00:18:23,900 --> 00:18:27,380 don't think I ever got over it, to be honest. Maybe I still 250 00:18:27,380 --> 00:18:32,060 think therapy about it. I don't know. But you know, you don't, 251 00:18:32,060 --> 00:18:35,060 and that's what work gives me. I don't feel invisible when I'm 252 00:18:35,060 --> 00:18:36,140 helping others, right? 253 00:18:36,799 --> 00:18:38,719 Beverley Glazer: No, and you're not invisible. You have a 254 00:18:38,719 --> 00:18:42,819 podcast and everything I know. Quite frankly, I think she was 255 00:18:42,819 --> 00:18:44,079 wrong to say that, 256 00:18:44,319 --> 00:18:46,659 Janice Porter: of course she was, of course she was, you 257 00:18:46,659 --> 00:18:50,259 know, it's damaging even at midlife, right? It's 258 00:18:50,260 --> 00:18:54,460 Beverley Glazer: damaging at any time, exactly, however I have 259 00:18:54,460 --> 00:18:57,880 heard, and these are from friends of mine, and I've never 260 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:02,100 experienced it, but this particular friend was saying, 261 00:19:02,100 --> 00:19:06,840 you know, I hate that when I go out with younger people, I feel 262 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:11,160 invisible. And I said, You know what? And her name's Anna, if 263 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:17,580 she's listening. I said, I have never felt that right. And if I 264 00:19:17,580 --> 00:19:22,340 felt I was invisible, I would make myself known. And I said, 265 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:26,420 Where was that? So she said, Well, it was in a restaurant. 266 00:19:26,540 --> 00:19:31,340 And so I just felt that, you know, they just looked at me as 267 00:19:31,340 --> 00:19:36,440 if I was not that important. And I didn't only hear this now from 268 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:40,240 her, Janice, I've heard this from other people that the older 269 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:46,120 we are, you know, the more invisible we become. And what 270 00:19:46,120 --> 00:19:51,340 does happen is when we go and when we're sick, and it often 271 00:19:51,340 --> 00:19:56,320 happens in the workplace too, and we're not sick, but we are 272 00:19:56,380 --> 00:20:01,260 that person that's the older one and not excited. Expected to be 273 00:20:01,260 --> 00:20:05,640 able to know the technology and not be expected to be able to 274 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:10,320 keep up or want to learn, or is expected that you're going to be 275 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:14,640 leaving and retiring, and maybe now we won't invest in you, 276 00:20:14,940 --> 00:20:18,840 because it's a bad investment, and we'll invest in the younger 277 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:23,660 people. And so that is where you start to shrink and feel 278 00:20:23,660 --> 00:20:24,440 invisible. 279 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,400 Janice Porter: But it's internal, right? It's actually, 280 00:20:28,460 --> 00:20:30,980 Beverley Glazer: it's there. It's a real, really there, you 281 00:20:30,980 --> 00:20:34,280 know? But, but the way to do it for, in other words, if you're 282 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,700 passed over, and you know that that's an ageist thing, it's 283 00:20:37,700 --> 00:20:42,940 there. It's real, true and, I've heard stories Janice, of this 284 00:20:42,940 --> 00:20:48,400 woman. I mean, she turned 60. It was her birthday that she was 285 00:20:48,820 --> 00:20:54,640 member of the team, top of the team, leading many teams. And on 286 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:59,260 her birthday, they just were celebrating her birthday, and 287 00:20:59,260 --> 00:21:02,340 the next day, they were telling her, Well, it's time we're 288 00:21:02,340 --> 00:21:09,060 downsizing, etc, etc. Okay, yes, all right. And so if this speaks 289 00:21:09,060 --> 00:21:14,880 to anyone in the audience, that is that aha moment that you have 290 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:20,600 to start seeing, I am not valued here, but I can be valued 291 00:21:20,660 --> 00:21:25,880 elsewhere, and that is the time a coach is necessary. That is 292 00:21:25,940 --> 00:21:30,860 the time where you're able to really put it all together, see 293 00:21:30,860 --> 00:21:35,420 what you want, where do you want to go? That is your gift to 294 00:21:35,420 --> 00:21:40,460 self, believe me, because if you're not appreciated here, 295 00:21:41,120 --> 00:21:46,180 I've known of women who've pivoted completely, like I have 296 00:21:46,180 --> 00:21:49,480 pivoted, but semi because I'm still helping people in 297 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:56,200 different ways. But what happens is they go out and form other 298 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,620 businesses that they never thought that they had the 299 00:21:59,620 --> 00:22:06,000 capability of doing because they were strapped. I have in one of 300 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:10,680 my podcasts, this woman, if you, if you've been listening, what 301 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:15,960 she, what she did is she was going to be just literally 302 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,300 another company was buying out that company. And what she 303 00:22:18,300 --> 00:22:22,100 wanted to do was say, am I going to be continuing. Is very 304 00:22:22,100 --> 00:22:25,760 successful my department, but should I continue? I always 305 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,840 wanted to be in the film industry, and goodness knows, 306 00:22:30,140 --> 00:22:34,880 what she did is she stepped down. And what she did was she 307 00:22:35,540 --> 00:22:39,140 studied everything she could about film, and she said, You 308 00:22:39,140 --> 00:22:44,500 know, I'm going to do a film on women over 50, which was her, in 309 00:22:44,500 --> 00:22:49,420 her case, over 60. And what I'm going to do is I'm going to 310 00:22:49,420 --> 00:22:54,940 start interviewing a film she realizes like a business, it's a 311 00:22:54,940 --> 00:22:58,420 production company. I know how to run companies, and she 312 00:22:58,420 --> 00:23:03,000 completely reinvented herself and has awards as a filmmaker. 313 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:07,800 So if I'm talking to anyone here, you don't know the depth 314 00:23:07,860 --> 00:23:12,180 of how much you have, and the older you have are, the more 315 00:23:12,180 --> 00:23:13,200 depth you have. 316 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,660 Janice Porter: That's fantastic. I was going to ask you this last 317 00:23:15,660 --> 00:23:18,900 question, and you've pretty much answered it. And basically of 318 00:23:19,140 --> 00:23:23,540 women or our our listeners navigating their own transition. 319 00:23:23,660 --> 00:23:26,720 What piece of advice would you offer for them to move forward 320 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,360 with confidence? And you've kind of answered that question, which 321 00:23:29,360 --> 00:23:34,340 I love in many ways, and and it's actually quite exciting. I 322 00:23:34,340 --> 00:23:39,620 it's funny. I, as you know, from before we came on air, that I've 323 00:23:39,620 --> 00:23:42,940 just had a little bit of a medical experience, and it was 324 00:23:42,940 --> 00:23:46,720 in the hospital. And so the other day, one of my close 325 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,420 friends came over to visit, and, you know, brought goodies, and 326 00:23:49,420 --> 00:23:55,720 we sat down and and visited. And she had said to me a few weeks 327 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,560 ago, Janice, I know that she she calls me her tech guru, and I'm 328 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,000 not a tech guru by any means. But, of course, you know more 329 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,540 than someone else, and to them you are. And she wanted me to 330 00:24:06,540 --> 00:24:11,640 show her how to use chat GPT, and so she brought her little 331 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,780 iPad with her. And she's, she does. She's retired, a retired 332 00:24:15,780 --> 00:24:19,560 banker for several years now. And you know, she's a grandma, 333 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,760 and that's most important to her, and she loves to travel. 334 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,340 And I said, Okay, what do you want to do? What project should 335 00:24:25,340 --> 00:24:28,700 we start with? So we did two projects. One was small. One had 336 00:24:28,700 --> 00:24:32,300 to do with creating some greeting card messages for 337 00:24:32,300 --> 00:24:36,200 special people and how she and so now she can do that on any 338 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:41,560 occasion. And the other one was about creating a trip to Ireland 339 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:46,240 with her girlfriend, and we, we worked on this for with chat GBT 340 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:50,080 for about an hour. And when we were finished, she had this 341 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,680 whole itinerary of three weeks in Ireland in different cities, 342 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,820 and it asked her questions, and she said, this is like magic. 343 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,320 You should sit there, light up. It was just. So exciting to see 344 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,920 that now she's telling everyone that she's The Wiz, right, that 345 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,040 knows how to do it. And I love that because it gave her some 346 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,580 passion and some excitement about something new, exactly. 347 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,540 That's the thing that actually keeps me going when I look at 348 00:25:15,540 --> 00:25:20,040 what it can do for people. So it's kind of exciting, I think, 349 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:24,560 because there's so much to learn and so much to do. Yeah, it is. 350 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,460 It is all right. So just to wrap up, a couple of quick questions 351 00:25:28,460 --> 00:25:31,700 for you, so because there's so much out there to do and so much 352 00:25:32,060 --> 00:25:36,800 to learn these days, and because the word curiosity is my 353 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:42,520 favorite, so I'm going to ask you my two part question. One, 354 00:25:42,700 --> 00:25:47,020 do you think curiosity is innate or learned? And I'd be curious 355 00:25:47,020 --> 00:25:49,960 to know your answer based on your expertise as a 356 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:54,340 professional. And secondly, what are you most curious about these 357 00:25:54,340 --> 00:25:57,160 days? Because that's what excites me, the new things to 358 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,320 learn. So go ahead and let me know. Oh, 359 00:25:59,319 --> 00:26:02,939 Beverley Glazer: wow. We can go on and on that entire podcast. I 360 00:26:04,619 --> 00:26:08,939 know is curiosity innate. I think it probably is, you know, 361 00:26:08,939 --> 00:26:13,559 and as a teacher, you probably see it, you know, we can be shut 362 00:26:13,559 --> 00:26:18,959 down, though, by older people that are not necessarily wiser, 363 00:26:18,959 --> 00:26:22,519 but all we have to do is take a look at a child and they're 364 00:26:22,519 --> 00:26:27,679 curious about absolutely everything. And curiosity, for 365 00:26:27,679 --> 00:26:36,079 me, it's my secret sauce. I am always curious about everything. 366 00:26:36,139 --> 00:26:43,899 I love learning, whether it's AI. I was in a webinar yesterday 367 00:26:43,899 --> 00:26:47,139 that just happened to have hit me, and there's, like, all these 368 00:26:47,139 --> 00:26:53,859 different, 25 different AI than some of them stemming from a lot 369 00:26:53,859 --> 00:26:58,419 of them stemming from chat GBT, but it's like, wow. You know how 370 00:26:58,419 --> 00:27:02,819 quickly the world is. You know, I'm a glutton for learning. I 371 00:27:02,819 --> 00:27:08,099 don't never stop. So for me, Curiosity is what what he's 372 00:27:08,099 --> 00:27:12,659 like, people are, what I'm interested in. So it's the 373 00:27:12,719 --> 00:27:18,059 issues underneath asking the questions is allows me to see 374 00:27:18,299 --> 00:27:21,979 what blocks people have so that I can help them move forward. 375 00:27:22,339 --> 00:27:27,859 It's all about literally forming relationships, finding out more, 376 00:27:27,859 --> 00:27:32,599 being curious. It's, I don't know. The question is, is it 377 00:27:32,599 --> 00:27:37,339 innate? I think that's what keeps us alive asking questions. 378 00:27:37,579 --> 00:27:41,319 Yeah, I agree. And the more we learn, it's all through 379 00:27:41,319 --> 00:27:45,939 questions. So whether you're asking chat GBT or asking 380 00:27:45,939 --> 00:27:49,419 someone else, just be that child and keep asking. And there's no 381 00:27:49,419 --> 00:27:51,699 such thing as a stupid question. Yeah, 382 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,880 Janice Porter: I love that. And having a very curious five and a 383 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,000 half year old or almost six year old granddaughter, that just 384 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:02,820 lights me up and and so I see it in her a lot. Oh, yeah. Well, 385 00:28:02,820 --> 00:28:06,540 this has been delightful, and I thank you for your time and for 386 00:28:06,540 --> 00:28:13,080 your value and what you bring to the world. Just before I close, 387 00:28:13,140 --> 00:28:16,500 please tell my audience where they can find you. And I think 388 00:28:16,500 --> 00:28:18,840 you have a free resource for 389 00:28:20,220 --> 00:28:24,020 Beverley Glazer: yes, it's a checklist. It's called stuck to 390 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:25,040 unstoppable, 391 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,879 Janice Porter: to go from stuck to unstoppable, right? 392 00:28:28,939 --> 00:28:34,519 Unstoppable? I know I forget the name of mine. Yeah, it's all 393 00:28:34,519 --> 00:28:34,939 good. 394 00:28:35,540 --> 00:28:38,000 Beverley Glazer: It's all the same thing. Actually, I should 395 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:38,780 change that. 396 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,760 Janice Porter: Yeah, from stuck to unstuckable, yeah. 397 00:28:45,039 --> 00:28:47,859 Beverley Glazer: And really it is. It's strategies to take 398 00:28:47,859 --> 00:28:52,239 strategic action just to stop sabotaging yourself. And that is 399 00:28:52,239 --> 00:28:55,839 on your website, right? It's on my website, or it's on the link 400 00:28:55,839 --> 00:28:57,579 that I gave you, and right, which 401 00:28:57,579 --> 00:28:59,619 Janice Porter: I'll put on this in the show notes. Get it right 402 00:28:59,619 --> 00:29:04,019 in. Sure. Perfect. Thank you so much. Well, Beverly reminds us 403 00:29:04,019 --> 00:29:06,839 that it's never too late to rewrite the script, and that the 404 00:29:06,839 --> 00:29:09,359 relationships we cultivate, especially the one with 405 00:29:09,359 --> 00:29:12,719 ourselves, are key to any transformation, whether you're 406 00:29:12,719 --> 00:29:15,419 approaching a new chapter or supporting someone who is 407 00:29:15,719 --> 00:29:18,659 Beverly work is a powerful testament to what's possible 408 00:29:18,779 --> 00:29:23,539 when strategy meets purpose. So to learn more. Do visit her 409 00:29:23,539 --> 00:29:27,199 website, reinvent impossible.com, or tune into her 410 00:29:27,199 --> 00:29:30,739 podcast, aging with purpose and passion, you'll see her 411 00:29:30,739 --> 00:29:33,919 curiosity there as she asks interesting questions of her 412 00:29:33,919 --> 00:29:38,239 guests. And remember, so thanks for joining us first of all, and 413 00:29:38,239 --> 00:29:42,819 remember in business and in life, relationships rule and 414 00:29:42,879 --> 00:29:46,839 stay it's important to stay connected and be remembered. I.