The first thing is just to write down those 5 things that I'm thankful for

and think about my day yesterday and think about what's good. Five things that have

just, thank you, lord. Even if it is just for this wonderful cup of coffee

my husband made to me this morning that smells so wonderful and is warming me

up.

Hello there. Welcome to seek, go, create. Tim Winders here. We've got a special guest,

my wife, Glory. And something that we've always

wanted to do was just invite someone

in on Just our talks that we have in the morning over

coffee. And so that's what we wanted to do with this episode,

this is releasing the week of Thanksgiving, we're gonna be talking gratitude. We're gonna

be talking about how gratitude and thankfulness fits

into even leadership and management, so we're gonna be just discussing some of

those things as What stimulated this conversation,

but we are sitting here duplicating our

coffee situation. But you know what? We got these microphones, and

we got these cameras, and, yeah, we're gonna try our

best. But, anyway hey, Gloria. How are you doing? Sound good. This

this does not feel like our morning coffee, though.

I got cameras everywhere. We we're wearing more clothes than we typically do.

Yeah. In my comfy been jammies. I'm in my I'm in my T shirt and

all, but you've got your usually, your comfy jammies sweatshirt and all that.

Anyway, been We just recently relocated. This is for those of

you listening to this the week it comes out, this is

Thanksgiving week, And and this is a

time to be thankful. We recently relocated. Why don't you tell us about

that? After spending a brief period of time with grandchildren, which is

always the most wonderful thing. We headed towards warmth because

there was snow the last day we were in Colorado, and snow and

RVs are not the greatest things that mix together. We are now outside of

Zion National Park. Absolutely beautiful here. And

fall is my favorite time of year and I'm actually getting 2 falls this year

because I got 1 fall in Rapid City with the leaves changing and all of

that. And then when we got here, all the leaves were nice and

green. And as we have been here this week, they are starting to change because

of the cooler weather at night, and we're getting to experience fall

again. So I love it. This is actually your 3rd fall, not to correct

you. Oh, where, did I get it in Colorado? We had a nice Fall,

great weather in October in Colorado Springs

True. With our grandkids. Falls. Woo hoo. Three

falls. So the beauty of living in an RV, if you

can handle it and you could plan it out well,

You can go where the weather is awesome. That's one of the reasons

we chose this lifestyle. We haven't always been good at it. No. Or maybe if

you're an endless summer type of person, you could just

chase that. That would be more you. Endless summer, I like a little

crispy. I am getting to where I

like the warmer weather. Not hot. We're from the

south. Not muggy. But I like the warmer weather. You like the

cooler weather. But if it's gonna be cold, it needs to be snowing.

No none of this cold with no snow. That no. So

we are enjoying, I think, today is a nice sunny day. You might see the

sun coming in. It's not early in the morning when we'd typically be

having our coffee. It's Midafternoon or early afternoon,

and, we're duplicating our coffee time is what we're trying to do.

Trying to. Yeah. Except. Trying to be chill and relaxed

hits water. Everybody's just going, man, they've got no

integrity here. They're faking. They are faking

everything. The the thing we're not faking is this is us,

and this is Yeah. This is me dressed the way I dress

99 percent of the time, you look incredible like you

always look. So a few big things that we are thankful for, let's talk

about gratitude and thankfulness, and

I have just celebrated just not long ago, 35 years of being married to

you. Yes. And then right after that,

celebrated my 60th birthday shortly after

that. Yeah. I'm feeling pretty good, I think. Looking good

too. Did I tell you that I was able to do my 60 push ups

in about 60 seconds ish all in

1 and all of that? So I You're good. I

feel sorta good about myself, which is

good because a few months ago, I wasn't sure if I'd do another

push up again. I had an injury

that was a pickleball injury, and I need a better story than

that. But Got some new shoes. Got some new

shoes, went out to play. It was on Labor Day weekend and all, in

fact, and I tripped,

fell, and Landed on your wrist. I'm thankful

I didn't break it. Yep. I did go to an actual doctor. I can't

remember when I've been a doctor. Went to a doctor, they x rayed it and

said, not broken. I said, okay. Let me leave. I'm out of here.

And my wife is very well versed in homeopathy

and natural stuff, and she nursed me

back and put essential oils, all kinds of great stuff in

all that. So not take 1 single over the counter pain

med. No over the counter or no prescription. They wanted to

give all types of stuff. And we're handled it all with

homeopathy and essential oils and resting it, of

course. But Yeah. And if you need that stuff, that's great. 60. Yeah. If you

need that stuff, that's great, but, we don't like taking stuff. And you know what?

Prefer not to. Yeah. That's one thing I'm thankful for.

I'm thankful that you, for almost all of our

married life, you've attempted to us to eat

pretty well and, as be as healthy as

we can and have not had to do a lot of doctors

and Things like that. So let's talk

Thanksgiving and the the fall season. This is your prime time. Right?

No. I love it. Pumpkins and

leaves and the reds and the golds and the oranges

and crisp weather. And, like, the other night, we got to,

sit out with our son by the fire. One thing when we

relocated, we we meet up with our son who also lives in

an RV and travels. And so fall or winter is when we

meet up with him, and and it was just beautiful weather the other night. And

I just made a little charcuterie board for us, and we all sat out by

the fire and just enjoyed some great conversation and the fire and the

crispy weather. I love it. Love it. Love it.

Yeah. It's nice having

adult children. Isn't it? It is. It is. Although,

love our grandbabies. Love that. But it is nice

having adult children where you can have adult conversations,

asked them questions and generally wanna know things that they've learned that you

wanna share. Our son has a very large Instagram

channeled. So it's really cool to be able to ask him questions because he is

extremely knowledgeable in that, and that's something we can learn from

him. Our daughter is a fabulous sourdough baker.

I got questions. She's the one I can ask because she has studied

it and and Gardner as well. She gives me that information. So it

is cool to be able to learn from your kids. Yeah. But let's go ahead

and and clear up some things here. There's this

myth That younger generations are

more technically savvy than,

let's call, our generation Sure, generation. We're both on the

tail end of the baby boomer generation.

However, who do they call when it's When it's tech support stuff. Tech

support person in the family. Call glory. Yes. They all call

glory. And in fact, I was thinking it was Probably a little

less than a year ago because we were here in this location,

you and I started dabbling with AI. Oh, yeah.

Moved. We jumped on chat GPT, and we're plugging in some things and

writing some things, which we are way down that rabbit hole right now. You're doing

Designs and graphics, and I'm doing a lot of stuff with

the podcast and all that we're doing here. We're using a lot of AI.

We are real people here. This is not deep fake.

Yeah. Sweatpants. Was, we would make sure it looked even better.

Sweatpants on from the waist down. Shown up here is actual

human flesh, not anything, not sentient or anything like

that. But We got into the AI, and our

son sitting over here, we said, you ought to check it out. He goes, I

don't want to. He No. Yeah. Punched in a few things. And

Wow. Okay. It is such a a great

research assistant. It saves me so much time

just to ask questions and let it go

look for some answers for me. I love that. It's like having an

assistant that can go do some of that stuff for me. It that's another thing

I'm thankful for. Moved. Changed

my mindset about a lot of business Yeah. About content

creation, about social media. Helped to give you a really good

example of something that just helped me with is I was having to

write a fairly emotionally charged

email on some things that I was trying to do

on behalf of my mom. And and because it was my mom,

I I my emotions were going and out. And so I was

looking at the email going, I'm not sure if this is the

way this needs to be presented. Was it a strongly worded email? Strongly worded

email. And so I decided, let me just copy and paste it

into chat and ask it to

improve my email. And it did such it

took all the emotion out of it, and it just presented the facts the way

they needed to be presented. And it was a much better

emailed just because I did that. Whereas if I had sent what I was gonna

send, there would have been a lot of underlying emotion there that

Yeah. Probably might not have been received well or understood,

and it really needed to be more of a professional email. So that was a

great way to use that tool. Yeah.

And I like because it takes my a lot of

people talk about the bias and things that it has, and I'm sure that it

does because it's built in, it's something that they have built in

a lot of the information that is used for the modeling. However,

I sometimes look at my stuff and I

go, that's really awesome, when it's good

to maybe run it through something else, And I'm okay if it's machine learning and

things like that, and it gives me the thoughts on what is awesome

when I thought this was awesome, I thought a was awesome, it said b was.

I'm going, you know what? I'm going with b because

I look at it and, again, we're talking thankful here. We weren't planning on

doing this, but I'm thankful for this. I look at it as having a,

brainstorming partner and a writing assistant. You you used it as

a writing assistant. Yeah. Been done. And I'll I will sit down

with thoughts and topics and even some of the things.

I had some notes even from what we were gonna talk about here. We're we've

gotten to none of them, By the way. Maybe we should take a look at

them. Maybe we should see what AI says. Maybe we should

This would be like our morning coffee. This is all

been about. And I'm and I'm looking out the window here and big

truck that's been near us doing some type of

Cloud construction work has just pulled out here. So So this could be short. It

might be part of the podcast here, but but talk about

let's talk briefly about and then I want us go into

stewardship and then how some of this spills into

leadership and how we've been discussing recently how people that manage

other people. Some of these concepts are important, and then also even

parenting, how it fits into parenting, but talk a little

bit about, And it's not even really a rhythm because we

aren't dogmatic about what we do in the morning. I'm a little bit

more dogmatic than you are, But not as much as I used to

be. I'll get up and work, do my push ups and my stuff and all

that, but I've cut out news. Mhmm. I don't read news anymore. In the month

of October, I got rid of news. I'm very thankful for that. My mind is

so much clearer and creative. I'm several years into that, so

he finally followed suit on that one. And it it really does It

does. Lessen the burden on your heart when you are

not listening to all the stuff.

Makes me less cynical. Yeah. I have a tendency to

lean towards heavy cynic, heavy sarcasm.

And I think it impacts how you look at other people, not just

groups of people because I think the media is designed to separate people

into groups, been. But individuals, you'll start looking at individuals, and if

you think or perceive that they are part of one of those groups, then

you will think about them like you think about that group. Mhmm.

And I don't think that's the kingdom of god. I don't think that

is the way we're supposed to be thinking Right. From reading scriptures.

But So our rhythm Mhmm. Is

that we we get up, y'all are right now, for those that are

watching this on video, on YouTube, or any of the clips, This

is our living space in Theo, our our RV. We

wanted to sit on the sofa, but we sank sank down in it, so we

had to sit at the table here, and we had to have microphones, all this

kind of stuff. So, we don't have microphones in the mornings. We have

just coffee and sometimes a device, sometimes not,

often our Bibles in some type form or fashion. And

we just have conversations, and Sometimes they are really cool,

and sometimes they are aggravating and annoying.

Yes. Why are they aggravating and

annoying? Because my husband loves to play the devil's advocate

and ask and prod and poke

and anyway. And my personality is just

just stopped already. Yeah. I like to ask questions. You do.

And you're very good at it. It's what you do. I enjoy asking questions. And

you know what? I actually have spent some time in prayer on this. I think

God is okay with us asking he is absolutely okay with us asking

questions. Yes. Yeah. Because we're really trying to get to a place where we have

a greater understanding. Mhmm. And you and I for years

now, going back at least 20 plus years,

have been with scriptural things Asking a lot of

questions. Mhmm. Gotten us in a little bit of trouble here and there, but

I don't care. Yeah. Seems like At bible school, they're not

super excited about that. They don't like to ask questions. Just be

discipled. Sit down. And you know, in a lot of churches, a lot of religious

environments are like that, And it's one of the reasons why a lot of people

are, I believe, in pretty healthy numbers

leaving religious institutions and organizations

because People want to be able to think and

ask questions and just sit back, shut up, and don't

ask questions is not the answer. That's not what People need to

guess. Anyway Again, not in our notes. Not in our

notes. We're going off here. But, I think we're talking about our morning routine. Yes.

And I, for several years now. Many

years. Keep a journal and I

write down 5 things that I am thankful for every morning.

Now some people like to do it at night. Some people like to do it

in the morning. I like morning because I feel like it sets the tone for

my day. Especially if I wake up with my running list

of all the to dos, I am I'm an executor in the strengths

thing. When I wake up in the morning, there is a to do list and

there's a big 0 on the chart. And if I'm gonna win

the day, then I gotta get move a lot of stuff and check a lot

of boxes so that I go from a 0 to I got a lot done.

That's immediately what is on my mind. And

if I can start though before I check the email

and before I do all those things, the first thing is just to write

down those 5 things that I'm thankful for, and think about my day yesterday, and

think about what's five things that have just thank you, lord. Even if it is

just for this wonderful cup of coffee my husband made to me this morning that

smells so wonderful and is warming me up. I make the coffee.

He does. So even if it is just that, I

have set some intentions that I'm gonna be grateful for the day

and have a more positive outlook instead of the things that are

not going right or the things that I gotta tackle today. It

just really sets the mood and the tone of the

day. And then after that, I will drop down

in the journal and just say, Lord, what do I need to know today? What

question do you want me to ask? And just try to listen

for a minute. And sometimes I don't get anything. Sometimes I

get a lot. And he's you need to know this today. You should ask this

question. And so that I have had that practice

going on for several years now. And what's really cool is I have a

journal that I can go back and look at. And I go, oh, I remember

that if if I had not written down that I was thankful full for meetings

so and I might have forgotten that. Or that we went to dinner with so

and so or that we went to so and so's house or that whatever.

It's like a little bit of a diary as the blessings

that are going on in my life, and it's cool to go back and read

those. And see answered prayer as well. So Do

do you is it daily? Do you

skip some days? I try to do it daily, but Right. Like you

said, not every single day. Some mornings, I do have to get up

and just I'm behind and I gotta get going, but I try

to start the day that way. And I try to make it 2,

not formulaic necessarily, not if I could only come up with

3. Okay. Fine. Three things for the day.

And I don't have a certain prayer I've gotta read or a certain mantra I've

gotta say or a certain script number of scriptures I've gotta read or what. It's

super duper simple so that

I can carve out 5 minutes or less to do this

and not have an excuse because I just didn't have time or, it's

just, it's too hard to think about that today. I was trying to keep it

really simple. What's interesting, You and I were talking about this

earlier, and you were saying it needs to be in the morning, and I went,

there might be people that need to do it in the evening, maybe people need

to do it both, maybe people need to do it in the middle of the

day. I think the key is to find what works

Yeah. For you, and I

know my days Are better when I can string

together multiple days where I'm in that habit.

Mhmm. We've recently been with grandkids. We've recently been on

the road some, and sometimes we get out of our rhythm then,

and I feel a little off. I wish I didn't. I wish I

didn't feel fell off. And so I know that

I need to be less

rigid, but I know I'm better when I do it.

Like this morning, the word rejoice came to my mind.

And I just I even wrote there. I said, rejoice in the lord, rejoice in

the lord always, and then I started off with all these words that were rejoice,

which you and I discussed, is not totally gratitude

and thanksgiving, but it's definitely a sibling or closely related.

Right. Because I think if we are grateful, if we are giving

thanks, then we are also rejoicing

caused. We are joyful and happy, and I just started making this list

of things that I was rejoicing in the weather and where we are

and what we're doing and the time of year

and all of those things that we get to do this that I know you're

so excited about and I appreciate, things like that. So

Now you've just recently started you're you're doing a lot of cool

things creating things. We are in

possibly One of the coolest creative

times of our lives, and we've been in a lot of times where we've created

some stuff. But Right now with some of the tools we talked about earlier

and things that are going on and some ideas that are coming to us,

we are really getting Fairly creative,

and you've been doing lots of cool stuff. Why don't you tell us about some

of the things you're creating, and, there's some things that have

just been loaded up to Amazon that I want you to talk about that

will put links in because people that are listening into this may wanna get

those. Right. Let me take you back a sec. When I went to college.

I think my mom wanted me to be a lawyer or a doctor because in

her mind That was success. That was success. That was To be a

lawyer or a doctor. Success In the seventies eighties was lawyer doctor

I was much more creative person and probably would have been much more suited

for something like graphic design, but literally had no

one ever tell me that was even a possibility. Or I could've gone

to culinary school. No one ever told me that there was didn't

even know there was a culinary school. I was a little backwoods

Georgia girl and didn't know that much.

And so those are probably 2 things that I would have excelled in and

really enjoyed if I had studied either one of those things.

Fast forward. And now I'm at a point in life

where I can pick up some things that I want to do now.

And one of those is to do some graphic design. And

so I have started I have an Etsy to shop, and I've

got t shirts and mugs and ornaments

and all kinds of little things like that, and then having an absolute

blast. In fact, yesterday was a day that I was really heads down doing a

lot of design work. And I felt like

I was cheating. I felt like this can't really be what I'm doing because I'm

having so much fun doing this. And it's just,

yeah, so much fun. I'm enjoying it. But one of the things that I

also just did, I've had a couple of books on Amazon for,

what, 20 years 20 years. Cookbooks back to that

culinary thing. And there are cookbooks for people who have food allergies or food

restrictions. And so it takes whatever those restrictions are and it

worked with them to still get you some really good tasting food. So

those have been up for a while. But I wanted to

create just some journals that people actually a

gratitude journal where you could just write down those 5 things in the morning have

a little bit of a note space to put extra that the Lord wanted might

wanted to share with you that day. Make it super simple for

people to develop that habit. And I have,

just created 10 different designs for women and

6 designs for men. Different feels and looks and

what your flavor is. And, I'm in the process of

getting all those loaded up. So yeah. Been fun.

The reason I think it's cool, and, you know, as a coach,

I know when someone hasn't been doing something, They

will often need a simple and

easy way to get started Mhmm. Be guided, and

they are they're nice, But yet they're simple.

Yeah. And I think for someone who hasn't been in

a gratitude journaling type

mode, Wouldn't you agree? It would be a pretty easy

way to maybe get one of these and get started. It has a nice

look to it and feel. It's actual physical, so you're actually

writing on it. Yeah. And is it for a year, an entire

year? No. I did them Just a shorter period of time. Yeah. I did them

in 120 day blocked so you've got just a 4 month

little time capsule of those 4 months. And after you do it for that amount

of time, you should have developed a habit that if you wanna do it

in a different journal, fine. Or like I said, I've got 10 different designs. You

could just get another one in a different design or whatever. But, yeah, it's

just a 120 day guided, prompting

you to take a minute and just write down. I I think that's so perfect

if you're listening in and you're wanting to get started with either some type of

gratitude or even a journaling habit. Mhmm. So to think I'm

gonna be doing it for a year, and me doing it for 365 days

might be a bit overwhelming. It's one of the reasons with even with

clients that I work with, we do 90 day cycles. 3, 4 months is about

all that most of our brains can wrap our heads around to

get going with things, so I I love it. Anything else you wanna say about

the journals? Because I've seen them, Haven't seen the physical. I've seen

some of the digital pieces of it, but they are up on Amazon. Probably

by the time this airs or someone listens, They'll be there, and you'll give

me a link and and also people can go get those just Great

gifts. Just in time for the holidays. I've got

one one that I think is so cute is like that groovy retro

that's so hot with especially younger and teens.

And so if you got a teen daughter or teen granddaughter and

you want to develop that positive attitude, what a

great thing to give them, plus it looks cool. It's not just

a daddy looking journal or whatever. Cool and hip is good. Yeah. Cool and hip

is And then the guy the the ones for men are a little bit more

adventure and outdoorsy and stuff. And there's one that I was showing that was probably

my favorite one I designed of all of them. And my son, I was showing

him last night. He was actually, oh, I like that one. Yeah. So

I'm excited. It's something fun. And I feel like the Lord

has given me a mission to be an encourager

to his body. To everybody, but especially to his

body. And so if it can be an encouraging

saying on a T shirt or a mug that's got something very uplifting

or something like that or something that can help you with a good habit or

just something to encourage you to make your

day lighter, to make you smile, or make someone else smile because of what you're

wearing. My mission right now. I've seen them. They're

good. Thank you. They're good, and we'll we'll make sure we include some notes, and

you can keep us updated on that. So let's shift

just a little bit. Okay. Because one of the catalysts

for us doing this episode, we were talking about, oh, there's gonna be an episode

coming out on Thanksgiving, why don't we release it? We were

talking about kind of stewardship and

leadership and parenting and

This mindset fits into it. It's not totally

what we're talking about here, but it's this attitude

Of if you are a steward, you have responsibility

over someone as

a parent, As a manager, managers or leaders, because I've

noticed this in leadership coaching, executive coaching, that

there are many times when people,

They aren't as thankful for the people that report

to them as probably we should be. We look at what's wrong,

we look at the challenges, we don't look at what we should be thankful

for. And I think sometimes parenting, we can get a little bit like that

too. Let's talk a little bit about some of the things that

we were communicating about over coffee a couple mornings ago, I don't remember

exactly when, About this topic of

the mindset of we'll just talk

about parenting right now because it's it'll spill over, but

What's the mindset that that we should have as we parent

and have these children that we're responsible for? Ours are grown,

but it's still the same mindset. You know, I think the difference

in the mindset is looking at your children

as treasures and blessings that the Lord has given you, that you

have for a period of time. Or are

they burdens? God. I just would say get a little bit older

so I don't have to tie their shoes anymore, or I don't have to wipe

their nose, or I don't have to I and I'm

not trying to pat myself on the back at all.

I think this stemmed from probably my childhood.

My childhood was, I guess, you could say it was a little bit of a

traumatic childhood because my younger brother passed away from leukemia.

A lot about my childhood life was not very

steady or stable. So when I became a mom, I wanted a

very steady, stable. I wanted what I didn't get. I wanted to

give that to my kids. Is that why you married me?

Steady stable? Probably. It's not boring,

is it? No. Okay. Okay. Just wanna make sure. Don't

be stopping me and getting my train of thought because You

wanted steady stable. Okay. You married me, and then you wanted that

for your family. Yes. And I ended up with

that. I was I just felt so blessed that I had those

children. I woulda had a ton more because I loved

being a mom. I loved having the kids, and I loved

every single stage except maybe that little bit of a colic stage. That one

was tough. But other than that, I loved I loved it when they were

babies. I loved it when they were toddlers. You always say,

call me when they get toddlers. That's your fun time. I let cuddle I

can cuddle a baby and I can get a baby to sleep. I love it.

But every stage, I enjoyed. But I hear moms sometimes

just going, oh my god, I cannot wait until they are big enough to bathe

themselves or I can't wait till they're whatever. And I would

just encourage you, be grateful for every single stage because I know plenty

of women right now who would give anything to be a mom.

They want a baby so bad. They are struggling with fertility. They that

or they have lost a child or and they would do anything

to be a mom and give that baby a bath. So

I think it all goes back to that mindset of how are we looking at

things. And when we were talking the other morning, we said the same thing could

be said for an owner of a business who's got employees or a manager

who's got people reporting to them. Are you looking at them as a burden?

God. K. I've gotta deal with this person again. Or is

it a blessing that you have somebody there? Maybe you might

need to train them in some things. We gotta train our kids and things.

They don't come out having table manners saying yes, ma'am, no,

ma'am. You gotta train them to do things. And you have to train

your employees and the people that report to you the same way. And it goes

to being grateful and thankful, but

what we say everything goes back to. What is it?

Being a steward? Oh, your heart. Yeah. Issues are the heart. It's a heart issue.

All a heart issue. Everything is a heart issue. How are you

looking at it? And it all depends on your heart. If they're irritation and a

burden, your heart's not right. That if they're a blessing and a

treasure, you are loving the way Christ would

love. So one of the things that People are getting a glimpse of

is the way our coffee time really is that we interrupt each other a lot.

Because one thing you said there triggered something in me, and I was wanting to

say it and people even saw it on video. They're going, He's wanting to say

something now. I'm not sure that I recall what it was. I I think I'm

sorry. I think what it was, we started off talking about gratitude

and how important gratitude was. Mhmm. And I think

what we're talking about observing is the opposite of

gratitude. What whatever the opposite

Of gratitude is it is very

toxic. Mhmm. It is very damaging.

It is something that people can feel it if they're

around if they're around you, they know.

And I know that sometimes as

a parent or a leader or a boss, that

there may be frustrating things that we go through.

However, and people have heard me use this word, we are a

steward over those things that god has gifted us

with, especially children. But I think as a leader or manager,

you're a steward over the people that are currently working for you.

And I think one of the things, and Glory can speak to this,

That is so helpful is, number 1, we were saying be

grateful and thankful, but then also take the

time to study Those

people that you have been gifted with,

children, people that you work with,

spouses, and it's something that we've always talked about it.

At times, we're better at it than others, and that

is Study your spouse.

Because what we often do is get into our own little bubble, and we think

about ourselves, and we can look at assessments, love languages, things like

that, but we really need to be looking at the other one and saying, what

is their learning style, communication style? What's their personality

style? Love language. Love language. Yes. Hers is gift giving

and It's the lowest on his list. It's I don't

even think it exists. I don't even think it's on my list. That's the

problem. Mine's words of affirmation. And And I

think that I've told him something. He's you never said that. I'm like, I didn't

I thought it. I didn't tell you. I was just thinking I was thinking it.

Sorry. Thinking about how handsome we were at almost 60 years old or

60 years old, but I didn't wanna tell you. You don't need to know.

So it has worked for the 2 of us to actually meet the

other one in their love language. But let we we have a few minutes here.

Talk a little bit about That concept

of studying because we had 2 children.

Very different personalities, different learning styles. We homeschooled, so

I learned their learning styles, 2 totally different learning styles,

2 totally different disciplinary styles. But if I had

just tried to do a formula, it wouldn't have worked for both of them. It

might have worked for one of them and not the other. It might have worked

for neither one of them. I don't know if I'd just start with one way.

But I had to study the kids and I had to figure out what made

them tick. And then you have to

craft everything to that style.

Our granddaughters are the same way. Two totally different

personalities. And they are we already see it and they are this is

they are they are 3a half and

one and a half. Yeah. The perfect age for me because already see it. They're

the perfect age for me because that's about my mentality. I can interact and

communicate with them perfectly. So hopefully, they

don't pass me up here soon, but we can already see different

learning styles, personalities, and things like that. One of the things we mentioned

to our daughter when we were leaving this last time because she was talking

about schooling, and she's considering probably homeschooling and

different school options. And I said, you think the best thing you to do right

now is just try to learn what their

styles are. Try to identify how they learn.

Are they tactile learners? Are they do they repeat and memorize? Do

they and I think that's one of the biggest challenges with, like, been Public

school or big school systems or a big school. Yeah. They don't have the bandwidth.

You can't do that. You can't. You just have to put everybody in a desk

or in a box stuck. Whatever and say, this is the way it is, and

it's really easy for people to be left behind

Mhmm. Gone through the cracks. Or fall through the cracks, and some people can

excel in that environment, some people can't, and

so the work environment is the same way. For those of you that are

running companies or organizations, it's the same

thing. Study your people. Do the strength finders. We love the strength

finders. Love languages may not be totally appropriate

for the work environment, but it's still beneficial. Mhmm. And

in others, DISC skin, things like that, Myers Briggs, others like that. They're

good because it helps you learn about yourself, and then you can

learn about others so that You could then sit

down as you journal, as you're spending time in prayer, and say,

listen. I've got Joe. I've got Fred. I've got Sally.

What's the best way that I can lead and manage just like we did Dolce

and Joshua? How do we need to educate? And we there was a lot

of bumps along the way, but we learned

With homeschooling, they had different styles. You gave them the plans and what

happened? I would give them their lesson plans on Monday,

and they had until Friday to get it done. I didn't care if

stayed up late Monday and Tuesday getting it all done so they could play Wednesday,

Thursday, Friday, or if they played Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and stayed up really

hard Thursday and Friday to get it all done, but they better have it done

Friday afternoon. Our daughter would

normally get it all done Monday, Tuesday, and have the rest of the week

to herself. Our son was the opposite, and he would play and they go, oh

gosh. I gotta get everything done been then work really hard at the end of

the week to get it done. But they knew it had to be

turned in by Friday. So what's weird about it, I don't think he said, oh

gosh. I don't really think he felt stressed or strained. He just

Probably not. Rolled out of bed on Friday le

leisurely And said We actually get it all done. I'm

a do a little bit of school today. We can get it done. I don't

think there was stress. You and I would be sitting on, kinda, gotta get it

done. Have you done it? Have you done it? Have you done it? But got

to the point where we didn't do that because You learn

about that, and you learn what their styles are, and so

I think one thing that kinda fits everything together we've discussed

here Is, number 1, having

gratitude in Thanksgiving, which is this is the season of Thanksgiving.

And then I think what you discussed about the habit

of gratitude is important because all of these

things we're talking about, Parenting, managing, leading, things like that. I think

when we're doing those habits of gratitude, I don't

think it hurts. In fact, I think it helps. Anything you wanna say

before we wrap up here and finish up this episode?

I'm grateful for you. I was hopeful you'd say

that. I was hopeful I wouldn't have to ask a question to get

been 60 years of life, and it's good.

Gonna be a good holiday season in 2024,

depending on when people are listening to this, 2024,

I believe it is going to be

a phenomenal year for many people, But

I also believe that some of these things we're talking about are gonna be very

important because I think we're gonna look around and there's gonna be some challenging things

mhmm. Outside of some of these

practices of gratitude, I think that there may be some of us,

Not trying to speak this over people, but we're going to have to get

really good at showing gratitude because of some of the things around us are not

going to look very nice. Mhmm. That we've got we can say. We've got an

election coming up, and those are notoriously

ugly. You throw in all the AI and the deep

fake and all this kind of stuff. Mhmm.

And pretty much how much neither one of the candidates are very liked. So

you throw that in and it's like, well, we don't know for sure who the

candidates are, but who they're saying that might be right now.

Anyway Who we're expecting is. But I guess my point is

to piggyback on what you're saying. It is so important for us

not to get pulled down by all that, not to get

tangled up in it. In fact, my stopping watching the

news actually happened during the 2nd election

that Obama was elected. Mhmm. And it got so

nasty both sides. I couldn't deal with anymore because I was

just getting so upset and so frustrated, and there was nothing I could do

other than go out and cast my boat, but I could not change this.

And so I just decided no more. I am not watching

news. I am not reading the paper. I am not you know what? And I

haven't missed much. If there's something big, somebody's gonna let me know, did

you hear blah blah blah? There's a war there's a war going on.

There's Yeah. And I don't need play by play Yeah. Blow of

it all. And I would just encourage you, if it means turning off

some news, turning off some social media, if

you are prone to get a lot of social media that

I get homestead chickens, sourdough. Mine's

pretty calm in the social media. I've got it trained

well. If you don't, then you may need to think

about, I need to focus on what I'm grateful for, what I have been

blessed with. Not what I don't have, not what I

want, not what I'm a victim

from, not just take some time out and be

thankful for what you do have. What I

would leave you with. I'm thankful for you also. Thank you. Thankful

for all that you've been to me,

and thank you for being on this episode. You're welcome.

I appreciate that. And, Do you wish you guys could just be with us in

our morning coffee because it's, like, not all of

this stuff. It's just us sitting here, and we do have some

amazing conversations. I'm like, darn, we should have recorded that. That was

good. Wonder if I should just put the phone up and record some

other day. Because it's just good. Added out some of the junk.

So, anyway, have a fantastic

holiday season. Be thankful, show gratitude,

And and just make sure as you head into

2024 that you are maybe implementing some

of the things we talked about. Showing gratitude, maybe getting a

journal and starting to write it down, and cutting out news, cutting

out some of the junk. I could tell you that's always a good thing. I

committed to cutting out the junk and then spending the time in scripture. And depending

on where you spend your reading or where you get your nourishing or whatever,

definitely tried to do that. Thanks for joining us here on this unique episode. If

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Have a great holiday season, and continue being

all that you were created to be. Happy Thanksgiving.