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Speaker BThis is episode 759 of the Dressage Radio show on the Horse Radio Network, brought to you by Kentucky Performance Products.
Speaker BThe Dressage Radio show is the official podcast of the United States Dressage Federation.
Speaker BOn today's show, we chat with Laura Mulrich, who is the first para rider to accomplish the Dressage Foundation Century Ride.
Speaker BWe have two great tips for you from Nicole Harrington on Downtime With Horses and Jessica Gaston on what she does for the holidays.
Speaker BThis is Reese Koffler Stanfield in Georgetown, Kentucky.
Speaker CAnd I am Megan McIsaac from Oregon, Wisconsin, and you're listening to the Dressage Radio Show.
Speaker CHi, Megan.
Speaker BHow are you?
Speaker CI'm great, but how are you?
Speaker CYou sound terrible, everybody.
Speaker DI apologize.
Speaker BI sound terrible.
Speaker BI actually feel a little better than I have been feeling.
Speaker BIt got cold and my body doesn't.
Speaker DApparently do cold, so.
Speaker CNo, no, no.
Speaker DIt's time to head south.
Speaker BMy body is telling me.
Speaker BSo, yeah, I've got a little bit of a cold.
Speaker DSo I'm going to throw it to.
Speaker BYou because you have some exciting news that you've just started, right?
Speaker CYeah, it's a cool, exciting new thing for me.
Speaker CThis old dog is learning new tricks.
Speaker CIt's a YouTube channel which, like I said, I know nothing about, and it's called Barn Besties.
Speaker CBut when you search us, you have to look up Barnyard Besties, Wisconsin.
Speaker CAnd the whole goal is it's two friends, Stephanie and I, we've gotten together and we went over our farms and we're sharing what we've done, what we've done wrong, and the tips and tricks that may help people.
Speaker CAnd we've been visiting a lot of farms and I hope we grow into, you know, talking about business plans, permits, mental health, and just.
Speaker CJust discussing what it's like to develop a farm and all the ins and outs and we hope to save people time and money.
Speaker BI love this so much you were able to come visit me.
Speaker BIt was super fun.
Speaker BWe did some videos so you can see my farm.
Speaker BI'm on Barn Besties, which I love.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BSo much fun we have.
Speaker DI love this idea.
Speaker CFour parts of Reese's farm and we could have done even more.
Speaker CAnd it's just such a blast because I love going to other people's farms, seeing how you've done it.
Speaker CYou inspired me on storage and I love your arena and also having the stalls.
Speaker CSo we just want to share and build a community to help everyone who's Building a farm or who has built a farm and you're not alone.
Speaker BAnd yeah, I wish this was out here when I built a farm, because that is such a huge thing and I love it because you can reach everybody in the equine industry, not just dressage.
Speaker BThis is for everybody.
Speaker CIt's for everyone.
Speaker CAnd discussing all of the things, you know, it's for every discipline.
Speaker CIt's how to handle horses, what's safe, what's not.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CAnd also I think it's really fun to see how other disciplines do things.
Speaker CAlso, the dairy industry has some great ideas.
Speaker CNot all, but.
Speaker CAnd also sharing what's not good, you know, it would have saved me a lot of money, so much time and energy.
Speaker BI love it.
Speaker CSo hopefully it'll really grow into something big and it'll be a resource for all horse owners, horse lovers.
Speaker CSo there's been some pretty amazing tips.
Speaker CSo I.
Speaker CI can't wait to share it.
Speaker CSo, yeah, come and check it out.
Speaker BI love it.
Speaker BSo how can, how can we find it one more time?
Speaker CYeah, we are on Facebook under Barn Besties, but please go to our YouTube channel.
Speaker CYou can Google Barn Besties, but the like handle is called Barnyard Besties wi, Wisconsin.
Speaker CSo come check us out and there's some funny, goofy videos, have some laughs and.
Speaker CBut also use us as a resource.
Speaker DLove it.
Speaker BLove it.
Speaker BOh, my gosh.
Speaker BI'm literally following you right now on Facebook.
Speaker BThis is so great.
Speaker DI love it.
Speaker BSo everybody, let's.
Speaker BLet's join with Megan because it's so cool.
Speaker BAnd I mean, as we go through our journey together, we want to be supportive of everybody.
Speaker BSo I absolutely love it.
Speaker BWell, we've also got some great stories today and we're going to get right to it after this break from Kentucky Performance Products.
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Speaker DWell, tonight we are so happy to have Laura Mulrick from California.
Speaker DShe is just one and was the first classified para dressage rider to win or perform the Century Club for the Dressage Foundation.
Speaker DLaura, welcome to the show.
Speaker FThank you for having me.
Speaker FI really appreciate this.
Speaker DThis is so exciting.
Speaker DWell, we actually, we picked up your article.
Speaker DI was, we were at final and I saw Jenny from the Dressage foundation and I was asking her and she said this was so cool.
Speaker DSo, Laura, tell us a little bit about yourself.
Speaker FAll right.
Speaker FI have been in love with horses since I knew what they were.
Speaker FAnd that's basically looking out my front door.
Speaker FWhen I was a little girl, I think I was about six years old and I lived out in the country and people would ride up and down the street with their horses and I used to cry, oh, mom, I want a horse so bad.
Speaker FAnd back then we didn't have briar dolls and horses.
Speaker FAnd so what I used to do was my mom would buy me magazines with horses in them and I would cut them out and I'd tape them up to the wall above my bed.
Speaker FYeah.
Speaker FAnd so that's I, they were with me all the time and through the night when I slept.
Speaker FSo horses have always been my first love.
Speaker CTell us about your partner, your current horse.
Speaker FOkay.
Speaker FI have two, actually.
Speaker GAwesome.
Speaker DThat's the best way to do it.
Speaker FYeah.
Speaker FWell, Pablo is, he's 27 and a half.
Speaker FI bought him in when he had just turned eight years.
Speaker FHe had just come in from Holland and I bought him from farm up in Woodenville, Washington, Northwest Dressage.
Speaker FAnd the woman that owned Northwest, I'm not really sure if she still does, but she said, laura, I've got a boy that's coming in and I think you ought to come up and see him.
Speaker FSo my husband bought plane tickets, and we took a woman with us that was a trainer at the stable where I boarded originally.
Speaker FAnd the three.
Speaker FThe three of us went up there and I fell in love with him.
Speaker FHe's just got this.
Speaker FHe's got this aura around him, and he was very calm.
Speaker FIt was opening day hunt season, and you could hear.
Speaker FIt was out in the country.
Speaker FAnd even though I was in a covered enclosed arena, you could hear the guns.
Speaker FAnd here I am riding him.
Speaker FHear this boom, boom, right?
Speaker FAnd.
Speaker FYeah, so what?
Speaker DYeah, so good.
Speaker FSo my husband figured, okay, this is a good one.
Speaker FHe's not going to be bothered.
Speaker DYeah, that we like that.
Speaker CExactly.
Speaker FYeah.
Speaker FYeah.
Speaker FSo he wrote the check and homie came to San Juan Capistrano.
Speaker DAwesome.
Speaker FAnd how long he's been.
Speaker FBeen with me ever since.
Speaker CHow long have you had him?
Speaker F20 years.
Speaker F20 years last month.
Speaker FYeah, 20 years.
Speaker FAnd he.
Speaker FActually, I have to tell you, quite frankly, I didn't have.
Speaker FI was coming off of being housebound for about two years.
Speaker FTwo years.
Speaker FPlus I had epilepsy.
Speaker FReally, really bad.
Speaker FI'd gone through chemotherapy for a year.
Speaker FI had lupus cerebritis, which.
Speaker FIt was attacking my brain.
Speaker DOh, my.
Speaker FSo, yeah, I'm sitting in the house and finally, when things calmed down a couple years later, I told my husband, I want a horse.
Speaker FAnd I don't know why, but I just said that.
Speaker FAnd so we went out looking and I found a horse, but I didn't know what I was doing.
Speaker FI.
Speaker FAt the time before that, I was riding Western.
Speaker FSo I got me a western horse, and I kept him for about a year because what was going on at the stable at that time were all these beautiful dressage horses and riders, and I thought, wow, I want to do that.
Speaker FWell, you can't really do it on a quarter horse.
Speaker DThat.
Speaker FYeah, not him, anyway.
Speaker FI mean, they're out there and they can do it, but he wasn't the one.
Speaker DWhen did you decide to go for the Century Ride and explain that to everybody, what that is, Just so they know what that is.
Speaker FAll right.
Speaker FThe Dressage foundation has their century.
Speaker FWhat they call their Century Ride, and they're basically a 501.
Speaker FAnd they take donations and contributions, and this allows them to give grants that they have set out for up and coming people and people with dreams of being something in dressage.
Speaker FSo it's a great cause.
Speaker FAnd last year, on my mayor that I have, I was the 2023 writer of the year, USDF adequate.
Speaker FUSDF writer of the year, grade four, grade four para.
Speaker FAnd my mayor was grade four champion Holstein.
Speaker FThank you.
Speaker FSo.
Speaker FAnd we are again this year, so.
Speaker DWow.
Speaker FSo let.
Speaker FYeah.
Speaker FSo last year my husband and I went to Omaha for the Adequan USDF Convention and Awards Gala.
Speaker FSo we, we met everybody there and I met the ladies at TDF and we talked a bunch and they told me all about this century riot.
Speaker FAnd my husband and I have been pretty avid sponsors for the Olympics, the Paralympics, every show that I showed this past year, and there were six of them we've donated to and we've sponsored arenas and that sort of thing.
Speaker FBut anyway, I just, I don't have children.
Speaker FWe couldn't have children, so horses are what we.
Speaker FOh, donate to.
Speaker FI love it.
Speaker FThe Century Ride is a good cause and I just believe in it.
Speaker FAnd I can't wait to see the ladies this next month and at the.
Speaker DI know it.
Speaker DI know it's gonna be so fun.
Speaker DNo, not Omaha.
Speaker DHouston.
Speaker DHouston.
Speaker DWrong place, everybody.
Speaker DConventions in Houston.
Speaker DSorry.
Speaker BYeah, wrong place.
Speaker FWe're going.
Speaker BAwesome.
Speaker FWell, I can't wait.
Speaker COh, I can't wait to meet you.
Speaker CAnd I have to say, I.
Speaker CI love your quote.
Speaker CI don't have time to stop.
Speaker CI just am gonna keep going and so what are your future plans?
Speaker FWell, I've already done one show for 2025.
Speaker DWow.
Speaker CRight?
Speaker EGood girl.
Speaker FYeah.
Speaker FI did the Del Mar Halloween dressage show and I got one qualifying score and so I need one more.
Speaker FI do Grade 4 Grand Prix and so I'm going to do.
Speaker FI need to do one more to qualify for year end and then do a total of four shows.
Speaker FSo I've got three more to go.
Speaker GFantastic.
Speaker FSo that's my goal.
Speaker DWe are so excited and thankful for your time tonight and you're just an inspiration.
Speaker DThat's why we saw your article and we had to have you on the show.
Speaker DSo thank you.
Speaker DThank you so much for coming on the show and oh my goodness to see you in Houston, but also catch up with you and see your whole journey next year as well.
Speaker DSo congratulations.
Speaker FThank you very, very much.
Speaker FI really appreciate it and I can't wait.
Speaker DWell, tonight we are so happy to have Nicole Harrington, international dressage rider and trainer based out of Ohio and a good friend of mine and Megan's.
Speaker DNicole.
Speaker DWelcome back to the show.
Speaker AHi.
Speaker DHi.
Speaker DWell, we have.
Speaker DIt's December now and, you know, it's that time of the year, the holidays are coming up and we were talking about this off air and I Don't think we've had this discussion about downtime for horses, and I just thought this would be a great one to talk about.
Speaker DSo, Nicole, start us off on this sort of roundtable of how do you give your horses downtime?
Speaker DWhat's your thought on that?
Speaker AI think it's well needed for all horses.
Speaker AI really like to give my horses some time here and there.
Speaker AIt doesn't have to be a tremendous amount of time, a week or two longer for some horses, but I think it's just, just like us.
Speaker AThey need vacations and they need refreshers.
Speaker AIt just helps their body relax and come back to where it needs to be and then.
Speaker AAnd then start over and, and then you can build some new muscles.
Speaker AVersus if the horses are going, going all the time, they get burnt out.
Speaker AThey need a vacation just like we do.
Speaker DYeah, no, I completely agree.
Speaker DAnd you and I, Megan, you are in California.
Speaker DLike our horses are a lot of times kind of doing a season all of the time.
Speaker DAnd I don't know about you guys, but like, I kind of try to pick one or the other.
Speaker DLike, I try to say, okay, I'm going to show in Florida and train in Kentucky or I'm going to do it the opposite way.
Speaker DLike, I try not to, you know, I try to give some blocks of time that I know, okay, I'm going to be really focused on showing or I'm going to be really focused on training.
Speaker DAnd I typically.
Speaker DIt's so hot here in July that I typically.
Speaker DIt's usually my family goes on a beach vacation every July.
Speaker DIt sort of happened my entire life.
Speaker DSo I kind of look at July as being our time for a little downtime.
Speaker DSo when I'm on vacation, the horses get a little bit of time off.
Speaker DThey get.
Speaker DGet to hang out and relax.
Speaker DAnd then I typically will, you know, as we're settling into sort of Florida or, or into back home, when we travel, I usually give them not quite a week, but I give them a few days for sure to get over the travel and get into the new routine.
Speaker DAnd that's kind of what I do.
Speaker DMegan, what do you do?
Speaker CLike, for instance, for nationals, I gave them two days off.
Speaker CAnd this week it's like slow, long and low work.
Speaker CWhen we don't have ra, we're going to go out on the trail.
Speaker CMy small tour horse, I actually gave her three days off the other after regionals and she was wild.
Speaker CShe doesn't want downtime, but she's getting like very slow, no collection, long and low.
Speaker CThat, like, that's her version of downtime because she's an overachiever or I do lunging or even light jumping with them.
Speaker CWhat about you, Nicole?
Speaker AI kind of take it again by a horse.
Speaker ABy horse basis.
Speaker AYou know, it depends on their age bracket.
Speaker AIt depends on what they mentally need.
Speaker AMy one of my younger horses in my program, although he's a 7 year old this year, this was his first show season ever because he was imported last year and had never shown or done anything.
Speaker AAnd so, like, after regionals, he had like four or five days off just because we were there from Wednesday through Sunday.
Speaker AAnd, you know, I judge the horse and when they start coming to the stall or coming to the paddock gate and saying, hey, I'm ready, then I say, okay, it's time to go back to work.
Speaker AAnd I feel like then, then they want to go to the horse show.
Speaker AYou know, if they come home and they're put right back into the grind day after day, they're like, why do I want to do this?
Speaker DYeah.
Speaker AVersus if they like to show, they're going to go out there and show off for you.
Speaker ASo.
Speaker DWell, and I try.
Speaker DI don't know about you guys, but I might come back really spoiled from the show.
Speaker DLike, I try to give them treats.
Speaker DI try to spend extra time with them.
Speaker DI try to give extra snuggles and grooms and, you know, I want them to like, oh, I really like horse showing or, oh, I really like going to clinics.
Speaker DYeah, I make it a really.
Speaker DI try to make it fun because I think we all do forget, like, it is actually supposed to be fun to go to the show.
Speaker DI mean, whoa, novel concept, but it is supposed to be fun.
Speaker DAnd I want the horses to enjoy going and being with us.
Speaker DAnd like you said, Nicole, like, not make it this horrible thing where they're like, this isn't fun.
Speaker DLike, you know, I don't, I don't like it.
Speaker DSo I'm kind of like you.
Speaker DI do know my inventors.
Speaker DA lot of my event horses will get a significant block of time off in the fall, but that's.
Speaker DThat's kind of trained into them from the time they're little.
Speaker DYou know, they will, they really give them.
Speaker DThey'll do a, you know, do a big event, and then they'll get two or three weeks off or a month off.
Speaker DBut, you know, those horses are like marathon runners.
Speaker ARight?
Speaker DI have found with dressage horses, like, yeah, giving them more than a couple days.
Speaker DAnd I'm with Nicole, like, I kind of Watch them and see when they're coming to the gate or seeing when they're.
Speaker DBut, like, in general, my horses, they don't understand.
Speaker DThey like.
Speaker DThey don't understand.
Speaker DThey're like, did I do something wrong?
Speaker DLike, that I'm not getting played with every day.
Speaker CThat's the way mine are.
Speaker CThat's why I do.
Speaker CI choose to do, like, less intense trail riding.
Speaker CJust, you know, slow, easy, maybe even walk work.
Speaker CBut I.
Speaker CYou know, I slow it down and the intensity isn't there.
Speaker CBut they don't like it.
Speaker CThey.
Speaker CMy horse, aj, he'll pound on the stall if I try to give him too many days off.
Speaker CHe's like, where are you?
Speaker CAnd why are you not giving me attention?
Speaker DYeah.
Speaker DYeah.
Speaker DAnd, you know, with the holidays coming up, I don't know what you guys do over the holidays, but I do try to give them a couple days sometimes.
Speaker DActually, like, over Thanksgiving, I actually give them their vaccinations that week.
Speaker DSo, yeah, I've always kind of done that.
Speaker DI try to give them vaccination actually Wednesday before Thanksgiving.
Speaker DSo Thursday, there is no feeling bad that they have off.
Speaker DLike, the barn is quiet, everyone's not feeling so good.
Speaker DAnd then Friday again, a lot of times, I'll take that day off as well.
Speaker DSo they'll get a little.
Speaker DA little break.
Speaker DOver Thanksgiving, my family comes into town, and it's my brother and his girls, and I don't see them that often, so I really do try to spend time.
Speaker DAnd then I don't feel bad.
Speaker DI'm like, the horses were just vaccinated.
Speaker DThey are fine.
Speaker DSo that's one thing I do over the holidays.
Speaker DAnd then over Christmas, my sister and I like to go on a Christmas trail ride, actually.
Speaker DSo if we can.
Speaker DLike, we do.
Speaker DBut sometimes now it's a little bit more complicated with all the family stuff.
Speaker DBut usually Christmas Eve, my sister and I go on a ride together, and my niece comes over.
Speaker DShe likes to ride my big horse, Bingo.
Speaker BSo one of the things.
Speaker DYeah, over the holidays.
Speaker DHow about you guys?
Speaker DWhat do you do over the holidays?
Speaker AFor me, it kind of depends on whether I'm south or whether I'm north.
Speaker DChristmas Day with Nicole, by the way, we have done brunch on Christmas, and it was a blast.
Speaker DI have had a Christmas Day with Nicole.
Speaker AYeah, I usually.
Speaker AIf I'm.
Speaker AIf I'm home, I'll go in and help my barn guy, and then we kind of run around, and I love to see the horses and give them a carrot and, you know, say, merry Christmas.
Speaker ATo them.
Speaker AAnd so anywhere we are, that happens.
Speaker ABut I typically definitely give them Christmas off.
Speaker DYeah, I think that's more for us.
Speaker DLike, I'm taking Christmas off.
Speaker DLove y'all.
Speaker BWell, in Florida, I think we rode.
Speaker DBecause it was fun.
Speaker DLike, we were just having fun.
Speaker DLike, again, I'm with Nicole.
Speaker DWhen we're south and you don't have all the family obligations, like, you have brunch with your friends, Like, a lot of times we'll work.
Speaker DIt's a little bit different there.
Speaker DBut Megan, what do you do?
Speaker CUsually Thanksgiving, we take off.
Speaker CI love feeding them.
Speaker CLike, that's my favorite.
Speaker CThat's my favorite thing to do is feed them.
Speaker CAnd so I love it.
Speaker CThere's no one in the barn.
Speaker CThere's no staff, and it's my fiance and I.
Speaker CWe feed on Thanksgiving.
Speaker CAnd then usually for Christmas, it's the same, but we actually go on a little ride together, which is always really special because he.
Speaker CHe's not really a rider.
Speaker CHe would like to be a cowboy, which I would prefer.
Speaker FI don't.
Speaker CI don't want him in dressage pants.
Speaker DNo, no.
Speaker CAnd so it's just such a special time to share with each other.
Speaker CSo I enjoy it a lot.
Speaker FYeah.
Speaker DFantastic.
Speaker DWell, both you ladies, merry Christmas to you and your horses and your staff and everybody.
Speaker DAnd Nicole, how can our listeners find you online?
Speaker DIf they have any more questions, Facebook.
Speaker AOn Harrington Dressage or Nicole Harrington.
Speaker AEither one of those is a great way to reach me and as my contact number as well.
Speaker DAwesome.
Speaker DWell, Merry Christmas, girl, and we will see you soon.
Speaker AMerry Christmas.
Speaker CMerry Christmas.
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Speaker DWell, tonight we are thrilled to have Jessica Gaston.
Speaker DI call her my barn daughter because she's been with me for many, many years and she's a trusted advisor now.
Speaker DJess, welcome back to the show.
Speaker GThanks for having me.
Speaker GGlad to be here.
Speaker DWell, happy holidays.
Speaker DThis is our December episode and we are asking everyone, what do you do with your horses during the holidays?
Speaker GI think that's a great question.
Speaker GMy biggest thing is horses can be horses and it won't kill them.
Speaker GSo if you're going for family or the weather's bad, have them have turnout and let them have a little downtime, which is fine if you have a young horse like I do and sometimes the downtime is not super productive, meaning they get very bored and tear apart their neighbors clothes.
Speaker DAlways, always a great thing, right?
Speaker GYep, yep.
Speaker GI really like to do kind of the extra fun things.
Speaker GSo I was talking with a client of, hey, during the holidays let's teach your horse to long line or let's do some in hand stuff and why don't we teach him to Spanish walk or why don't we teach him a fun thing on the ground just for fun that he gets a reward based system out of.
Speaker GThat's totally different than the normal dressage training that we do.
Speaker GI like doing stuff like that with them, especially the young ones with their curious brains because it opens them up to learning and it's no stress, no pressure.
Speaker GWe're never going to go to a horse show and do it right.
Speaker GSo if they learn it, cool.
Speaker GIf they don't, no worries, no one's going to get upset and it gives them something to think about and sit out instead of tearing up their neighbor's clothes they can think about, oh, how did I get that cookie today?
Speaker GYou know?
Speaker DYeah, no, I mean I think that's right because your guy, he's three turning four and he's coming, he just imported and is coming back to work.
Speaker DAnd that makes sense, you know, it's like let's keep his little brain engaged and, and I think that's super fun.
Speaker DAnd do you guys go to the barn on Christmas or do you take the day totally off?
Speaker DWhat do you and Ethan do?
Speaker GSo I've always had this tradition since I was a kid is I'll make apple pie for Christmas and I take all the cores and appeals to the horses.
Speaker GI've always done that since I was like, since I can remember.
Speaker GSo I like going to the barn on Christmas if I can, if the weather allows it.
Speaker GAnd I honestly, I go, I'll dress up my horses, I'll take pictures with them, I'll give them cookies and I keep them like my family.
Speaker GRight.
Speaker GLike they don't have to work on Christmas.
Speaker GNone of us are going to be Olympics tomorrow.
Speaker DYeah, exactly.
Speaker GLike end of the day I want to enjoy my horses and if that means letting them have a week off so I can have a life, that's fine.
Speaker GI love it.
Speaker DI love it.
Speaker DNo, I think that's super important to remember.
Speaker DLike, you know, a little bit of downtime is not going to hurt anybody.
Speaker DAnd I'm with you.
Speaker DI love to go to the barn and give everybody kisses.
Speaker DWell, I live at my barn so I like to be out there and usually I feed breakfast so it can be a little bit later start for everybody.
Speaker DOr we try to take shifts with who's working that day or a lot of times I end up working, which is fine.
Speaker DYou know, again, I quickly do the barn and my husband even comes out to help.
Speaker DThat's a big one.
Speaker DYeah, he's pretty good about it.
Speaker DHe'll come out and help, which is so sweet.
Speaker DAnd we kind of rock through it and have Christmas carols on.
Speaker DAnd I like that time too with the horses.
Speaker DAnd then my family's local so I'm able to go and spend time, some time with them.
Speaker DSo it's good.
Speaker DSo I love it.
Speaker DI love the tradition of the apple.
Speaker DI never knew that.
Speaker GThat's fun.
Speaker GYeah, it's just my little thing that I do.
Speaker DI love it and tell us.
Speaker GMy horses are family, so.
Speaker GYeah, I like seeing them on Christmas.
Speaker DAnd downtime with the youngsters.
Speaker DI mean, in general, do you have a set time that you give them downtime or little time over Christmas or a little.
Speaker DLike how do you, how do you do that?
Speaker GYeah, it depends on the horse.
Speaker GLike I don't have a set rule.
Speaker GSome horses love being turned out, are super content not working and I don't mind giving them a week to two weeks off when I need a break or vacation or holidays and stuff like that.
Speaker GSome are a little bit busier in the mind.
Speaker GRight.
Speaker GAnd so with those types, I like to see if I can give them three or four days and then maybe pull them in and do something fun with them.
Speaker GRight.
Speaker GLike spend 30 minutes playing with them and then give them three or four days.
Speaker GAnd that seems to keep their mind content while their body rests.
Speaker GAnd typically with the young ones, when I start them back, I'm obviously smart about it.
Speaker GI don't just pull the four year old in and climb right on.
Speaker GRight.
Speaker GLike we're going to go and we're going to start the system again and we're going to have a lunging day and then maybe two lunging days and then, okay, we're going to lunge and then we're going to ride.
Speaker DYeah.
Speaker GYou know, so I start them back very systematically after they have a break.
Speaker GAnd I've never had a young horse come Back worse for the wear after a little bit of downtime.
Speaker DYeah, I'm knock on wood.
Speaker GBut you're smart about anything.
Speaker DYeah.
Speaker GThey come back better.
Speaker DYeah.
Speaker DYeah.
Speaker DNo, I think that that's smart.
Speaker DYeah.
Speaker DAnd again, I think that's kind of the consensus we've had, you know, lots of, lots of different questions on this and professionals and I think it does.
Speaker DIt depends on the horse.
Speaker DAnd then be smart when you bring them back, don't just pop on them.
Speaker DEven maybe an older horse.
Speaker DJust be careful.
Speaker GYou know, even.
Speaker GEven the older trained horses, a lunging day after two weeks off is always a good idea.
Speaker DYou never regret lunging.
Speaker DNever regret.
Speaker DNever, never regret it.
Speaker DWell, Jess, we want to wish you and your husband Ethan a very, very merry Christmas and happy holidays.
Speaker DAnd if our listeners want to find you online or they're in Colorado or that or out west, how can they get a of you?
Speaker GThank you.
Speaker GMerry Christmas, too.
Speaker GMy best place to find me is on Facebook or Instagram.
Speaker GI am Majestic dressage or Jessica Gaston.
Speaker GYou can look up both and you'll probably find me.
Speaker GI hope everyone has a great Christmas.
Speaker DYou too.
Speaker DThanks so much.
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