Why does the journey for old souls feel so challenging at times?
Speaker:Why does it have to be so challenging?
Speaker:After all?
Speaker:It should be a gift that you have so much maturity, that you can see things that
Speaker:many don't even register, that you have an incredible depth and sensitivity to you.
Speaker:Why would that be challenging?
Speaker:Now, it is a gift, but also it is a challenge.
Speaker:It is both at the same time, because for many old souls, it feels like you
Speaker:are the only one experiencing that.
Speaker:And even though that experience of depth and a very deep intuition and
Speaker:sensing energy, even though that is a powerful experience, no one can argue
Speaker:with that, it doesn't mean that you cannot feel lonely in not being able
Speaker:to share this experience with another.
Speaker:So old souls don't struggle because of their depth, because there are awareness,
Speaker:because of their consciousness, because of their souls and spiritual maturity.
Speaker:They struggle because they don't feel truly met in the world,
Speaker:whether it's in friendships, whether it's in your romantic life.
Speaker:And, and, and that's the real struggle.
Speaker:So you have a gift.
Speaker:And yet why does it feel that this gift isn't fully met?
Speaker:Today, I'm gonna go very deep into this, and it has a lot to do with our
Speaker:wounds because just because a soul is old and mature and conscious, doesn't
Speaker:mean there aren't spiritual traps or, or wounds that this soul can fall into.
Speaker:I'm gonna get very practical and also I'm gonna go very deep into
Speaker:why the journey for old souls can be so incredibly challenging.
Speaker:What is the deeper purpose of this?
Speaker:And also how can you make the journey feel less challenging
Speaker:and expand that gift of yours?
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Speaker:I am Lorin Krenn, founder of the Core Method.
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Speaker:Many old souls have experienced a very complicated childhood, and by
Speaker:complicated I mean that many old souls simply did not get to be children.
Speaker:Because most likely, very early on in their life, they became space holders.
Speaker:They became coaches, therapists, spiritual guides, delight.
Speaker:Rather than a child who is unconditionally loved and held.
Speaker:They were doing the holding, they were doing the taking care of others.
Speaker:And this is somewhat a paradox because yeah, maybe the child, wasn't putting a
Speaker:roof over the family's head, et cetera.
Speaker:But even people who are not necessarily conscious or identify as spiritually
Speaker:awake or whatever that means, right?
Speaker:I don't wanna put too much language to that, people can instinctively
Speaker:feel when someone's soul has a lot of light, a lot of maturity.
Speaker:Because you are not what you do, even though what you do is
Speaker:important, but you are the, the light of your soul, so to speak.
Speaker:You are, you are something much deeper, and, and that depth is not
Speaker:something you convey in words to others.
Speaker:That depth is not something that you do or say.
Speaker:That depth is in your energy, it's in your frequency, it's in your
Speaker:authentic vibration, so to speak.
Speaker:And, and, and people can sense this.
Speaker:And then old soul naturally has this heightened awareness and, and an
Speaker:expansive light and energy to them.
Speaker:So people sense that and, and naturally at a spiritual level, even though from
Speaker:the outside it looks very different, the family is taking care of the
Speaker:child, et cetera, at a spiritual level, it's actually that child is
Speaker:much more mature, most likely than the parents, than its peers, definitely
Speaker:than its peers, or any other one or most people in the family, really.
Speaker:So they do a lot of holding, they do a lot of caring, they do a lot of
Speaker:things except being a child, really.
Speaker:That is being stripped away.
Speaker:They take on too much too early.
Speaker:They saw dynamics that maybe they weren't meant to see, but they saw
Speaker:them, and these dynamics created a sense of responsibility and created
Speaker:a sense of losing innocence as well.
Speaker:Not that they were no longer innocent, but they saw all the spectrum
Speaker:and things that were painful.
Speaker:They felt like the emotional adults in relationships to parents, to caregivers.
Speaker:They became the ones holding and stabilizing others.
Speaker:Very early on, specifically, old souls learn to hold space.
Speaker:And that's beautiful, but if you're holding space for everyone and no
Speaker:one is holding space for you, that is painful even though you have a gift.
Speaker:And underneath that gift and that light is often a deep grief, because
Speaker:there's a grief about, for the childhood that never fully happened.
Speaker:There's a grief for the innocence that was interrupted.
Speaker:There was a grief for never having been fully met in that depth, in that truth,
Speaker:and always being somewhat of an outsider in the family, in peers, in whatever.
Speaker:And as old souls grow older, of course, that the pattern continues,
Speaker:they feel older than their peers because at a soul age, at a spiritual
Speaker:age, they are, and again, some people collapse this idea of old soul, with
Speaker:souls, with spiritual superiority.
Speaker:Please know, this is not the space where I'm coming from.
Speaker:If someone believes they're spiritually superior to other people, uh, they can
Speaker:start from scratch on the spiritual journey ultimately, because there
Speaker:is no spirituality around that.
Speaker:What is that supposed to be?
Speaker:An old soul doesn't come and say I'm spiritually superior, you're all peasants.
Speaker:An old soul feels something so profoundly and deeply and wants to share that gift
Speaker:with the world and feels it doesn't belong fully and doesn't feel fully met,
Speaker:and it's a very different experience.
Speaker:Very different.
Speaker:So as old souls grow up their pattern continues, their depth feels misplaced,
Speaker:their sensitivity may feel excessive, their intensity and truth might be seen as
Speaker:extreme, even though it's just conviction, it's knowing, it's, um, devotion to
Speaker:a deeper purpose, to a deeper path.
Speaker:It's alignment, but it might be seen and labeled as extreme and judged.
Speaker:They might even be bullied, and if they're not directly bullied, there can be a sense
Speaker:of disconnection and they're an outsider.
Speaker:There's a sense of feeling isolated.
Speaker:And there is this experience then of there is no place for for my depth here.
Speaker:Then you also still have a human being who is even though much older at a soul
Speaker:level, but still a child, a teenager who wants to belong, who feels abandoned, who
Speaker:feels rejected, who wants to be loved.
Speaker:And adults, of course, want the same.
Speaker:But it creates a very paradoxical experience because you have both worlds
Speaker:and at times there might even be direct invalidation ,where you shared something
Speaker:with people around you and, and people said, what are you talking about?
Speaker:Why do you think that is the case?
Speaker:That doesn't make any sense what you're saying.
Speaker:Or really directly speaking against them.
Speaker:And potentially even feeling anger towards what you're saying just because it
Speaker:doesn't fit into the familiar narrative.
Speaker:Maybe you're pointing something out that is really uncomfortable for people.
Speaker:But then rather than of course conscious people owning that, acknowledging
Speaker:that and working with that, what happens is that they, they, they judge
Speaker:you and they, they pull you down.
Speaker:And specifically growing up, you, you might be very mature, but you
Speaker:don't yet discern at that level.
Speaker:And the, the need to be belong is greater than the understanding of what it means
Speaker:to be an old soul and align with your, with your deeper soul's journey, right?
Speaker:So this can be very challenging.
Speaker:These invalidating, exper invalidating experiences that are not always
Speaker:direct, but they feel directly at a sole level where, wow, okay, if
Speaker:I really let go and allow myself to be fully who I am, I become a
Speaker:walking trigger for people around me.
Speaker:I make people feel uncomfortable.
Speaker:That must mean there is something wrong with me.
Speaker:There's nothing wrong.
Speaker:It's just you don't have that shitty filter that a lot of people have
Speaker:and beyond that, many people are just not aware of those things.
Speaker:Being the one who is aware is powerful, but it can also feel like a burden.
Speaker:Because if you overshare or if you speak from this unfiltered, truthful
Speaker:place to all the people around you, you can then start doubting and
Speaker:second guessing yourself, ultimately.
Speaker:When your awareness is not mirrored, you often begin to question it.
Speaker:And this is quite painful for old souls because you feel it, you know
Speaker:it, it's there, it's so powerful.
Speaker:It's you.
Speaker:It's your essence.
Speaker:And yet your essence is seemingly being rejected.
Speaker:But it's not your essence that is being rejected.
Speaker:It is people feeling uncomfortable feelings and emotions.
Speaker:And the number thing, one thing the shadow or ego does is it will find anyway to
Speaker:avoid that uncomfortable feeling, and that is usually by pushing other people away.
Speaker:Pulling, mocking other people, putting other people down.
Speaker:It's a survival mechanism ultimately.
Speaker:And then throughout that experience, many old source eventually realize, fuck I,
Speaker:I don't belong to any of those places.
Speaker:And wherever I go, you might even go to spiritual communities and
Speaker:you feel you still don't belong.
Speaker:That is also often a very challenging experience for old souls because they
Speaker:think, wow, finally people who speak my language, and then you realize,
Speaker:yeah, maybe they use similar words, but we don't speak the same language.
Speaker:And obviously there might be a spiritual community where you feel deeply met, but
Speaker:usually the experience for old souls is that in any community where they are,
Speaker:whether there's a spiritual label attached to it or not, they just don't fit into it.
Speaker:They don't fit into that framework, they don't fit into the spiritual
Speaker:hierarchy, come in level beginner, then this, all this bullshit.
Speaker:I mean, I don't wanna say it's bullshit.
Speaker:I understand that there's certain elements of being initiated and all of
Speaker:that, but it's just very often old souls don't, don't work with any of these
Speaker:frameworks because these frameworks don't meet them where they're at.
Speaker:They assume they are just at the beginning, but they aren't.
Speaker:And again, this is not about thinking, one is beyond others, but I just
Speaker:see a lot of old souls who don't fit into spiritual communities,
Speaker:which often introduce hierarchy and structures, which to some degree I
Speaker:understand this is necessary, right?
Speaker:But at the same time, is still, feels often very superficial and doesn't
Speaker:fully meet the old soul at its depth.
Speaker:And then many old also enter an isolation period.
Speaker:On the journey of attracting their tribe, attracting their
Speaker:conscious or divine counterpart, whatever language you may use.
Speaker:And, and that journey is isolating, it's a different sense of isolation
Speaker:because now you, you have the resources to, to actually be on your own.
Speaker:You no longer depend on your parents or whatever.
Speaker:You're an adult now.
Speaker:You've created your own life, your own path, and now you're
Speaker:on a journey of, of finding your tribe, of finding your people.
Speaker:And that journey is a journey where the old soul goes through very deep lessons.
Speaker:It's lessons that are challenging and painful.
Speaker:And lessons of discernments, boundaries, rooting in your truth and intuition,
Speaker:truly following your heart, all the way, self-trust, regulating your emotional
Speaker:state and, and, and, and working with your energy at a, at the deepest level.
Speaker:It's, it's, it feels like that the journey home feels endlessly
Speaker:long or infinitely long.
Speaker:It can feel heavy and, and even layered with grief.
Speaker:And it's this paradox on this journey that, as an old soul, you have a
Speaker:heightened capability or capacity to experience depth, joy, love,
Speaker:abundance, expansion, but at the same time, you also experience the grief
Speaker:of of, of not being matched and not being seen fully at the same time.
Speaker:So.
Speaker:It creates this paradox where you experience both, and your journey is
Speaker:somewhat a wild mix between heaviness, confusion, grief, and heightened
Speaker:states of love, heightened states of awareness, heightened states of
Speaker:depth and and beautiful intensity.
Speaker:And usually many old soul find themselves in this loop where they have moments
Speaker:of deep awareness, beauty, they see beauty that others might not notice,
Speaker:and then those peaks are often followed by waves of grief, because you keep
Speaker:touching something transcendent.
Speaker:You keep touching something so infinitely powerful and sacred, but you
Speaker:don't fully know what to do with it.
Speaker:It's, it's, it's elusive.
Speaker:It comes, but then there's grief, there's heaviness, there is the journey.
Speaker:It's a wild one.
Speaker:It's just a wild one.
Speaker:There's no other way to say it.
Speaker:And you touch something transcendent, you touch that sacredness of life.
Speaker:You touch that peak, and then you fall back into the ache of not being fully met.
Speaker:Here, the nervous system or your system in general does not yet know how to stay
Speaker:in this heightened awareness without collapsing back into the old wound.
Speaker:Now, I'm not talking here about staying in some perfect peak state.
Speaker:Life unfolds in cycles, and we are cyclical beings.
Speaker:So we will have moments of heightened joy and we will have moments that
Speaker:are a bit more neutral, where we're not feeling some unbelievable bliss.
Speaker:When you're cleaning your home, you might not feel most unbelievable bliss,
Speaker:but you also won't feel hatreds or deep sorrow, you just, it's neutral.
Speaker:But what I'm saying is you go through cycles of emotional peak experiences
Speaker:and then through cycles where you are working through grief, annoyance,
Speaker:frustration, tension, irritation, resistance, you name it, big
Speaker:things, small things, subtle things.
Speaker:It is part of the journey.
Speaker:I'm not talking about entering this enlightened state and
Speaker:staying forever blessed out, whatever that is supposed to be.
Speaker:But I'm talking about not going from one extreme to the other, from
Speaker:heightened awareness to deep grief.
Speaker:And yes, also struggle with that.
Speaker:Just because you have that gift doesn't mean you're always
Speaker:in a full embodiment of that.
Speaker:That's a journey.
Speaker:That's a journey to, to, to, to find your roots in that.
Speaker:So let's get really practical.
Speaker:What, what can you do at the deepest level?
Speaker:Number one is to accept this journey as it is, to accept the paradox.
Speaker:Don't fight with the paradox.
Speaker:Don't try to change this paradox.
Speaker:Don't try to stay in this peak state and then judge yourself when you
Speaker:are experiencing some form of grief.
Speaker:This is part of the experience, ultimately, it is part of the
Speaker:depth that, that you are meant to bring into this world.
Speaker:It is part of your medicine.
Speaker:And when you accept that, what starts to shift is that you are no longer being so
Speaker:hard on yourself in those moments where you fall back into an old wound, perhaps,
Speaker:an old wound of never feeling that you fully belong, that wound of isolation.
Speaker:Because that wound of isolation remains an illusion.
Speaker:You are not isolated and you are far from alone.
Speaker:And your journey shows that with your spiritual awareness, with that
Speaker:divine guidance, that is ultimately working through you and carving the
Speaker:path and, and showing and revealing and illuminating the path for you.
Speaker:And yet we keep falling back into that because it's as deep as it can get.
Speaker:So what is a very powerful practice is to make space for that grief.
Speaker:Allow yourself to fully grieve the childhood you might have never
Speaker:had, and all that comes with it.
Speaker:Because in that moving through grief, there is so much love and even deeper
Speaker:layers of depth available to you.
Speaker:I like to say that grief is the chisel and your soul is the sculpture.
Speaker:Grief just chisels away to make that sculpture uniquely or to let it shine,
Speaker:to allow it to be what it truly is.
Speaker:And.
Speaker:It seems that grief and even heaviness and the challenging experience of
Speaker:being highly sensitive and attuned, which is a beautiful thing, but can
Speaker:also draw you into picking up a lot of energies from other people and
Speaker:feeling the heaviness of the world.
Speaker:And yes, there's an element of identifying with that and losing
Speaker:yourself in that, but just by feeling it.
Speaker:That can be a heavy, a heavy experience.
Speaker:And by allowing yourself to, to have that grief, something in you shatters,
Speaker:something in you undergoes a spiritual death and initiation ultimately.
Speaker:And that is an incredibly liberating process.
Speaker:To really allow that grief to take a hold of you and to do what it must.
Speaker:Grief is a master teacher.
Speaker:If you push it away, it will come back stronger.
Speaker:It's not about being stuck in that grief, it's just allowing it to take
Speaker:the last bits from you where you are still holding onto belonging
Speaker:or wanting things to be different.
Speaker:When that grief is metabolized, so to speak, which is a journey, your depth
Speaker:is the thing that stops isolating you.
Speaker:It's what makes you magnetic.
Speaker:Because then your medicine and then your truth and your true power
Speaker:is able to fully shine through.
Speaker:And that creates resonance.
Speaker:It creates resonance with the right souls, the right circumstances, being
Speaker:in the right places at the right time.
Speaker:It creates a chain effect, ultimately, a domino effect, where so many pieces
Speaker:suddenly fall into the right place.
Speaker:But it isn't suddenly, it's a deep spiritual journey and the building of that
Speaker:structure or a sprouting of that seed, so to speak, the opening of the flower,
Speaker:Being an old soul is not a life sentence of loneliness and being
Speaker:spiritually and emotionally unmatched.
Speaker:It's really more about a journey of fully surrendering and accepting
Speaker:your deeper path, grieving for what needs to be grieved.
Speaker:And every old soul has something that needs space to be moved through,
Speaker:to be grieved and released fully.
Speaker:And from there unapologetically to allow your medicine and your depth
Speaker:that once isolated you to become the very thing it was always meant to be.
Speaker:The thing that makes you magnetic, that things that creates the right
Speaker:circumstances, that draws the right people, the highest love and
Speaker:highest abundance into your life.
Speaker:There is much more about this topic, of course, and I will
Speaker:make more episodes about this, but for now I'll leave it here.
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