I'm Paul Comfort, and on this episode of Transit Unplugged,

we go to the Community Transportation Association of America's Live 2025 Expo

recording in San Diego, California.

I was just there a couple weeks ago and we had a wonderful time.

Uh, at the expo itself.

Um, Scott Borin, the executive director of CTA, does such a great job.

There's 1200 people there.

I spoke while I was there.

Uh, along with Mark Ash, we did a, a joint presentation over about two

hours and we also, uh, I also did a book signing at the trans track booth,

and then on the trade show floor.

We recorded a couple podcasts live.

It's always fun when you do that, right?

You sit in front of a booth and you have a, a crowd gather around you

and you record a CEO there today.

Uh, we interviewed Ryan Daniel, who's CEO of St. Cloud, Metro Bus, and

he had his board chairman with him.

And I said, Hey man, will you come over and join U.S.

on the show?

So Dave Kleis , long term board chair and long-term mayor, um, of the city

of St. Cloud was mayor for many years.

Uh, joined U.S. on the show and we have a two part interview

with both these gentlemen.

Uh, recorded right there on the trade show floor.

We have another one coming up for you, uh, soon after that.

And we did a live roving reporter one.

And you know, I'm Paul Comfort and Trepid reporter walking the floor and

talking to various people, including our friends at Mass Transit Magazine

and some other leaders in the industry.

Uh, so we've got three podcast episodes coming from the CTAA,

expo 2025, and San Diego.

Enjoy this great interview with Ryan Daniel, CEO of St. Cloud, Metro

Bus, and his board chair Dave Kleis.

We're at the CTAA Expo in San Diego, California.

I'm Paul Comfort and this is Transit Unplugged.

We're doing a couple of live podcasts here from the floor

of the expo, and I'm excited to have with me today, Ryan Daniel.

Ryan is CEO of the St. Cloud Metro Bus System.

Ryan, thanks for being on the show.

Thank for having me.

Yeah, It's great

to

And as a last minute edition, we added his

board chair and the former mayor,

20 year

mayor of St. Cloud Minnesota.

Dave Kleis thanks so much for on the show in a green, you know, of not

knowing I was gonna drag you over here.

uh, just

In the expo, but no happy

be on

Yeah.

Yeah.

So the show goes all over the world.

We're in a hundred countries.

Uh, it's the number one Mass Transit podcast, and so we're

excited to talk about St. Cloud.

I was telling you, Ryan, I've been there before, but tell U.S. actually,

let me ask the mayor, if you don't mind kick it off, mayor, tell U.S.

some about St. Cloud you know, the city itself, the demographics, et cetera.

Sure.

St Cloud's, uh,

you know, been around for about 168 years.

Um, it uh, 72,000 people, but it's a regional center, so it has daytime

population of about, about 180.

Plus thousand.

So it's a college town.

It has, uh, you know, large hospital.

So it's, uh, the second largest metropolitan area the Minne

Minnesota next to the Twin Cities.

Oh, wow.

uh, uh.

By

it's

MSA,

um, so, or at the municipal, statistical

area, but it's, uh, yeah, a nice little area middle uh,

Minnesota.

And, uh, got a, uh, growing,

it continues

to grow.

Metro big part of

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it.

Uh,

Because, uh, St. Cloud, 72,000 people, there are four additional cities that are

right connected, um, would be considered in most areas, those suburban areas.

so.

Metro bus or our transit is a joint powers agreement.

So it actually operates under, uh, under a collaborative effort between the,

uh, three cities four, four cities the area.

So the, uh, mayors council members, uh, the city's appoint, uh, representation,

St. Cloud of course being the biggest city two representatives on there.

Uh, I've been on the board, uh, I've been mayor, so I've been

board years, um, and, uh, and been chair, I for 16 of those years.

So, uh,

but it's a, you know, it's

community in

and.

about, uh, about an hour from, uh, Minneapolis.

so we're,

we're, we're uh,

uh, close to the lakes.

What we in would consider up north.

Uh, anything, uh, north

Cloud

probably up north, but, uh, know, we've got, got 10,000, at

least that's our license plate.

Say we 10,000 lakes, probably about 15,000 lakes.

But it's a, it's a nice state and a wonderful little community.

Well, that's good.

That gives U.S. a good setup.

Brian, now tell U.S. about your transit

system.

Perfect.

Well, we have an award-winning transit system.

We are recognized as transit urban system of the

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air

by CTAA back in 2015.

So happy, happy to toot that.

Uh, we have a wonderful, staff at Metro Bus.

Well, we provide commuter bus.

Fixed route and

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power transit

services in three counties.

Sherburn County, Stearns County, and Benton County.

And we operate in four cities, so St. Cloud Way, park Tel, Salt Rapids.

We average about just under a million rides per year.

We have under a hundred buses and over about 175 employees.

Budget is about 25 million.

We operate seven days a week, 359 days a year.

How do you do that?

Just don't operate on holidays.

Yeah.

The six major holidays, holidays.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's good man.

Wow.

And how long have you been there?

I've been CEO now for 12 years.

My system in Queen Dance County won that award in 1991,

CTA, I

tells you how old I

am.

We won that community system of the year, the county ride system.

So, uh, gimme a little of your background.

How'd you get into all

this?

Well, I started about 26 years ago.

I, when to date myself here.

Started out as a bus operator.

Started 30, right?

Yeah, 19.

Right.

Yeah.

Started out as a bus operator for New York City Transit.

So I'm originally from Brooklyn, New York.

Oh,

Oh.

So

I'm

a city boy.

Yeah.

My dad's from there.

Brooklyn's born in Brooklyn, New York.

was I, Brooklyn, New York?

Yep.

Prince Live in Brooklyn.

So, started out 1998, working for New York City Transit as a bus operator.

While going to college.

So I did my undergrad in grad school.

Once I graduated, I left, decided to take the show on the road,

got

on the

bus, went to Ohio, and I took a job at Coda.

Landed a job at Coda.

Columbus in

Columbus, Ohio.

Landed the job there as training manager.

So I stayed there for about two years an opportunity in

Washington DC open up at WMATA.

So I was fortunate enough to be selected to be the manager of bus

operations for WMATA back in 2009, and then I stayed there until 2013.

Then position opened up in St. Cloud Metro Bus to be the CEO,

and I threw my name in a hat.

About a hundred people apply, and I went through the process.

Wow.

and here I am 12 years later.

Yeah.

We may crossed paths.

When I worked at WA Mata, I was with the MV running the paratransit system.

Oh, okay.

envy.

you, um, outta Hyattsville?

Yep.

Outta Hyattsville.

So I worked outta Landover.

Oh, okay.

I was right down the street.

Yeah.

That's great,

man.

funny.

Wow.

So Mayor, were you involved hiring him?

I

Uh, I was uh, chaired, uh, the committee that, uh, that did, we did

a national search uh, fortunately we, uh, were able to, to get Ryan to come up to,

uh, Minnesota, leave, uh, leave DC time.

So, uh, yeah, he's, it's been great.

Uh, CEO, great partnership.

uh, so it's, uh, it, it, uh, continues to grow to won some

national awards over that period of time and, International Awards too.

Actually, a collaborative effort uh, uh, UN has a, an entity called,

uh, livable Cities in the World.

I've heard of that.

And, uh, we, uh, we won, uh, the most livable

city in the world twice, both

2007,

2019.

a lot of that was because of collaborations, partnership,

um, you know, sustainability.

we, yeah.

We went, uh, we were the first transit system Minnesota to go compress

natural grass, so clean energy.

And, uh, we will be, uh, the city of St. Cloud is

the first municipal,

. Wastewater treatment facility to actually produce, , energy.

Uh, we as a city produce more energy than we use have now since, uh, 2014.

Uh, actually, so we actually produce, uh, well over close 300%.

So we sell that back to the grid, but we will be the first city that

actually will produce green hydrogen.

so we're working Yeah.

So we're working with Metro Bus, of course now I'm no longer mayor.

I'm the Chair of the Metro bus.

So, uh, we, I, back a few years ago, we set up, , com partnership with MetroBus

to actually utilize that, that, hydrogen and then new flyer, which is also, uh,

Uh, does manufacturing in St. Cloud and

course

the

Oh,

that's right.

That's your big plant

Yeah.

So they've agreed to actually look at moving one of their operations,

which is actually not in Minnesota.

That makes, uh, uh, hydrogen buses.

They, of course, make, uh, electric buses St. Cloud.

Uh, but they're looking at actually, uh, moving some of their operation,

build the hydrogen because of our ability to produce hydrogen.

And then of course, metro Bus's ability to actually utilize those buses.

So, uh.

Uh, we're working with the University of Munster

in Germany and the University of Minnesota,

uh, on the technology.

In fact, um, we will be producing, uh,

the city

of St. Cloud will be producing hydrogen at our wastewater

treatment facility next year.

For marketable purposes.

And it's green hydrogen?

Yes, we, we, make it with solar and, uh, biomass, so

it's

Wow.

green.

And, uh,

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uh,

you

information about that on the web anywhere?

Uh, we do on city's website.

Uh, we, if you go there and, uh, we've actually, we've won some national awards.

Actually U.S. conference of mayor, uh, last year, uh, gave st called an award

because, uh, you know, every city in the world has, has to get rid of their waste.

And of course, so they have, uh, wastewater treatment facilities.

Uh, so it's a great place to get dispose of water, and why not?

If you're gonna dispose of water, take the water.

Uh, use the, uh, separate the oxygen the hydrogen, use the hydrogen from energy.

'cause you need the oxygen to break down the way.

So, uh, it's really simple, but it is a very high energy, uh, utilizer.

But

if you're

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using the

energy and you're producing the edge green, you do it.

why, uh, it, it will, there's no doubt it'll be, uh, we will, secured state

and federal grants because of it.

And, uh, won an international award because of it.

So, uh, yeah, so some great things and it's a great collaboration with transit.

I'm gonna come back to you in few minutes, mayor, and you

about, so maybe you can think back.

What about Ryan made you wanna hire him as the CEO?

Because we have a lot of people that listen to the show that

are mid-level management.

That wanna move into those CEO jobs.

They're in positions like you had ada, you know, of bus operations, and they think,

uh, you know, they aspire to to things.

And so I don't think a lot 'em never had a chance to hear from somebody

who chairs the selection committee.

think about that for a minute while I Ryan.

Ryan, uh, prior to this, uh, you were telling me you've got

a lot of big projects going on.

Walk me through some the big projects you got happening.

Yeah, sure.

So we have a metro bus forward plan where we are looking at

a bus, a total bus redesign.

So as a result of COVID, a lot of things happen.

The world shut down.

So now COVID is over.

Ridership patterns change, people's lifestyle change.

Everything's 50% virtual, 50% in the office.

So how do we capture that change in sync cloud community?

So we decided right on the onset of right on the offset of COVID, we decided

to do a metro bus forward plan where we just do everything on the mall.

Hey, let's just tear this apart.

How can we best meet the needs of the community moving forward?

How best can we serve our community?

Because we all know where transportation goes.

The community grows.

So we wanna grow the community coming outta COVID.

Let's meet the needs and let's say, Hey, how can we best do this?

So we did a 18 month study.

We hired some consultants, we did a whole stakeholder engagement.

We got the community involved.

'cause once again, it's about the community.

They're the ones utilizing our services businesses.

They hire staff, they hire people.

People, take transportation.

So we want to capture everybody.

So we had stakeholder forums, we had public hearings, we had open house,

and each one of those sessions, Paul, we had about maybe 50 to a

hundred people in those sessions.

We're so excited to see that we even had our own bus operators come in and telling

U.S. Hey.

Not this street, this street, not this.

Stop that stop.

And people say, Hey, can you open?

Can you open early?

Can you run later?

So we took all of that feedback and then worked with the consultants and

we put together a nice master plan, and it was just approved by the board

here about maybe four months ago.

So, so that's one thing that's gonna be coming in the hopper

here, second quarter of 2026.

In addition to that.

We purchased some property in a city called Way Park, one of

our cities that we operate in.

Where?

On that side of town, the western side of St. Cloud.

On, on that side.

We have a lot of growth that's going on over there.

So we wanna capture that growth.

There's an amphitheater over there.

There are hotels, there are shopping malls, there's a lot

of residential housing going up.

So we have a transit center.

We bought a parcel of land, right?

Dead smack in the middle of that residential neighborhood.

'cause we wanna capture that growth.

We want people just to utilize transportation and we wanna make it as

accessible as possible as we possibly can.

Wow.

So that.

We purchased the land, we gonna do construction here.

We just issued a RFP here recently.

And we're gonna tie the opening of that transit station together

with our long range plan changes.

And we're looking at doing everything in 2026.

Awesome.

So a lot of moving parts now.

All hands on deck.

Everybody's excited.

It's a team effort from marketing to maintenance, to

operations, to planning everybody.

And with the of our board and our board chair, uh, former

mayor of St. Cloud, mayor Price.

We're just gonna make happen because all have that passion for

transportation and we wanna grow

communities one person at a time.

When

we come back after this quick break, we're gonna talk to the Mayor Dave Kleis and

ask him, what did he look for in a CEO when he hired you, Ryan, after this word.

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Now let's get back to the conversation.

And we're back with, um, my good friend Ryan Daniel, who is CEO of St.

Cloud, Metro Bus, and, uh, Dave Kleis the board chair of Metro Bus, and also the

former mayor of the City of St. Cloud.

Thank you again, gentlemen, for being on the show.

This is.

Very insightful stuff.

And so speaking of that, Dave, I was thinking, you know, so I've been

a CEO of a transit system, right?

And I've been county administrator hired county commissioners, and you

go through this selection process and you get interviewed by a board, and

I know a lot of our listeners are.

You know, upwardly mobile, they're people that have, that wanna make a difference

in this world, uh, in the, they've chosen transportation as their field,

like you and I have Ryan to make that happen, and they want to become CEOs

or directors, whatever the title is.

Dave, what, what is a group like, you were the mayor and you were

chair of the selection committee.

What does a group look for, or what did you look for?

Let's just say that when you look for a CEO of your system, when you hired Brian,

Well first you look for, you know, the, the obvious piece

is the experience, uh, supervision.

Obviously you're gonna be, uh, supervising and hiring, uh, employees.

So you understand that that's at a basic.

But I always looked for, uh, drive and compassion.

And, uh, you know, it's interesting 'cause the committee that I chaired,

uh, we had, we had a number of folks, we did a national search

and a lot of folks came forward.

And I remember the discussion around Ryan and I was a big advocate of hiring

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him because.

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He came from a system, now he came, you know, originally in New York

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and then from DC and this is St.

Cloud, Minnesota, a much smaller system.

Uh, so, uh, I had some, uh, you know, trepidation from some of the board members

saying, well, you know, he's, he's only gonna be with U.S. for a little while

and he's gonna probably be upward and mobile and, and, uh, you know, I said,

yeah, that's exactly who I would hire.

Uh, somebody who is upward and mobile because, you know, they're not only

looking at, uh, helping the system that they're gonna be hired to do,

but they're also looking at, uh, you know, and, and if I can hire somebody.

And I've done a lot of hiring at the city and I own, actually, I

own a driver's education business, so I've owned that 34 years.

So I've hired a lot of people and, uh,

by way, a great voice for radio.

a great voice of radio.

Yeah, thank,

deep

thank you.

I've done some radio but, uh, it, you know, it's, uh, it is a,

it is something that I look for as somebody that really, um, is.

Looks at their own, you know, their career and their future, and that's great.

I always say, if you could hire somebody, you know, I remember

talking to one of the, one

of

the committee members who said, yeah, he'll only be here, you know, for.

Five years ago, that'd be a great five years because

that's exactly what you want.

You want someone to come in, get a little external perspective

now, and you know, oftentimes you hire within and that's fine too.

Uh, we had some internal candidates, uh, we had some

folks

that were outside, but Ryan knew his stuff and you know, and I, I, and after

hiring and knowing Ryan, you know, I've known Ryan for the whole time

that he's been here uh, yeah, 12 years.

And, uh, you know, not only, uh.

The CEO, but we're, we're good friends.

But he, he has a passion.

Uh, the guy lives a transit and so, and that was pretty evident too,

because he had that experience.

You know, he came You know, he drove a bus in New York.

I mean, I would want to drive a car and I barely wanna be in transit in

New York, um, with the way traffic and everything is, but he came from that

system and then in, in DC and then coming into a system much smaller.

But, um, you know, giving him an opportunity, , to actually, , to be

the CEO is a whole different thing.

So I, I look at that type of, uh, upward mobility, uh, you know, in hiring.

And it was not in any way a. And no regrets.

In fact, uh, you know, the, the board after we made that

selection, and Brian's done a great job, uh, during that 12 years.

, So , he's, uh, you know, he certainly, has the, and that's most people that

apply for a job have the skill involved, but the passion for what they do, and,

you you should be looking at, uh, I look at upward mobility because then,

you know, you, somebody wants to.

Excel in what they do, not only in the company that they're running and

the in the system they're running, but in their own personal, uh, drive.

Uh, that's got that kind of don't want somebody that's gonna settle and wants

to retire and then, you know, or Or wants to just, you know, this is a job that

makes it easier than I was doing before.

No, you want somebody who is gonna not only challenge the system,

but challenge themselves in upward

That's great.

What a great answer.

And Ryan, how's your experience been?

I mean, have you, everything's been good.

You think?

That's great, man.

That's really good.

Very fortunate to have Dave as a boss and as a friend and as

Yeah, it's

really uplifting for 12

What do you consider, you know, kind of your.

As a CEO, what do you think the key attributes are?

So we'll just keep this kind of conversation going.

So this is what we, this is what, uh, your boss, uh, Dave, as the mayor and

the former board chair was looking for.

What do you think is key for A CEO or someone who wants to move into leadership?

What kind of things would they be working on on themselves?

Mentorship, number have to find someone who

mentor.

gotta have a

mentor that's very important.

two, it's technical skills.

Utilize trainings like APTA,

Leaders Academy,

the

Mid Managed Program.

Utilize those platforms, utilize those

training platforms

not only for the educational for the networking

component.

Because everybody in that had drive the passion

to want to be what

better

place similar

like-minded people like yourself

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to do the same thing?

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So I

would say

definitely take advantage those because those very beneficial.

Yeah.

I mean, that's kind of what we're doing here, right?

CTAA, you were the, you were the system of the year.

What, what, what do you get from CTAA?

What, what are the, what do you enjoy about it?

Well, not only that, not only that I'm on the board.

I get to help drive direction

the

process, help association,

but also provide valuable input.

once again, it's not about it's about the future generation succeeding as well.

So what does that How we

train the uh, leaders?

How can we

ensure that

content that are putting out.

It's gonna

be valuable worthwhile for

attendees, so that way they could grow into

Yeah.

being to provide strategic

direction

and that input is

valuable.

And I

and not only that from a, from a, uh, executive step, from executive

just looking at having CTAA be that platform, for U.S. on the Hill lobby in.

Yeah.

of Yeah.

Scott Borin, the executive director,

phenomenal,

doing an Yeah.

He's

CTA

now for Wello

over 30 years.

his for

unmet.

Yeah.

He, he and I kind of started around the same time.

I started in 87.

In Queen Annes County,

Maryland

Mm-hmm.

the county ride system, like I mentioned.

And Scott was editor of their magazine.

Dave Raphael was the head of the association back then.

And, Scott and I both, he stayed in one place.

I went around and worked for a bunch, but we've been buddies ever since.

And he's, he's another transit evangelist, right?

oh, , I wanna ask you about technology.

So, you everybody's, you know, we're here, uh, in June of 2025 and the

hot thing right now is ai, right?

Everybody's talking about ai, but there's lots of other.

Technologies too.

What are you working with right now and what technologies are you

working with that are helping you or your agency serve people better?

Yeah.

so right now we are working with, uh, TripSpark.

We are looking at, uh, for right now, MetroBus high level.

Fix Route Bus.

We have the mobile app, we have the

ticket the and

things of that nature.

But then now we look at Paratransit.

want to make utilize our So right now we're working with TripSpark.

We are looking at creating a mobile app so that way can book your rides

Oh, I love that

And that's the one big thing right now that we're

That's

we, we,

we upgraded all of our fear boxes.

we

but right now we wanna focus on the paratransit

customer

experience piece.

'cause we always wanna where can enhance the customer enhance that mobile

app

will be a game changer just for our

community.

Yeah.

Where are you at in the process?

Oh, we are looking to launch here, uh,

four 2025 or

one of 2026.

Anything else you wanna talk about on the show today?

I'm just to be here.

I'm happy to share knowledge.

happy be joined by St.

Cloud, former St. Cloud Mayor Kleis and board chair, and as we look

to grow the industry, passionate.

The one

thing I would say is, let's remember re transportation goals.

The

grows.

that community might look different around the United States, but we

all have that same driving passion.

Let's keep pushing, pushing and

make sure that transportation is accessible

for

That's wonderful.

And Mayor, let me give you the final word.

Talk to U.S. about the role of public transportation.

In a city like St. Cloud, what does it do for a city?

You know, uh, it kind of ticks me off that not, you know, five or

10% of the people in America ride trans, a lot of people don't ride,

but it provides great value, right?

Oh, it, it does it.

You know, people have to, uh, get good places and, uh, you know,

there's, uh, uh, one of the things I think that's, uh, often lost

issue of, uh, economic development.

You have to have people, uh.

Uh, to get to work and, uh, you know, you're the first

from a city's perspective.

You, you try to create as much, uh, mobility as can, make the

city walkable, uh, and walkable and, and transit oriented.

And that's what we have.

We're, you know, we're in Minnesota, so, you know, one of the things I've,

I've, you've done a lot of travel.

Uh, one of the things in Minnesota, you know, you.

You can drive an hour and a half to lunch, you know, 'cause people will

go from St. Cloud to Minneapolis.

Uh, you know, and, and you people like to, like to spread out, spread out areas.

So how do you get around, how do you get people around there?

As you do that through transit, if you can make it easy, you can make it simple.

Uh, and our goal is, you know, is not only in the technology

thing, but can you make it clean.

You know, and there's been a lot of

you go

over the years because, you know, you, you know, we're

also a very cold winter state.

I mean, you just think, I think back, uh, the, you know, years ago when I

was first on the board, all the idling that, uh, those big diesel buses

did and how, how terrible it was not only for the, for the drivers and for

the customers and for those places,.

At every intersection.

Uh, now you got, uh, you, you know, we clean that up, uh, with CNG and

Are, are you like all CNG?

Yeah, we are 100% CNG

Wow, awesome, man.

You know, the goal will be a hundred percent hydrogen at some point.

Oh, I love that.

I'm a big hydrogen

yeah.

not only will it be, uh, clean, it'll be clean and, uh, and renewable.

So that'll something that, uh, looking forward to doing.

And so, yeah, and you know, if you look at over that period of

time, it's really changed, but.

Uh, you know, there's not an employer in any community that

isn't looking for employees.

It's one of the thing that's happening right now in the, in the U.S. you

have underemployment a lot of areas.

So do you gotta do?

You gotta make it as convenient as employee.

And folks want to, you know, and if you look at the largest, uh,

percentage of the workforce for force in the United States are millennials.

And millennials, uh, you know, more and more millennials are not buying cars.

Um, you know, I know somebody on the other side.

Since I'm on, I'm in the driver's education world, I'm always

amazed that younger and younger people are older and older before

they actually get their license

true, isn't it?

Yeah.

And so, uh, people are, uh, transit, Oregon.

They wanna live in places where they can walk or they can get on

a bus, they can get on a train.

Um, and so that's an important piece.

And Minnesota's also in some of those rural areas are aging.

So how do you get people there?

You know, the, uh, the dial ride or the, uh, you know, the paratransit is a huge.

Huge part of it.

You just gotta get people not only, uh, to work, but you gotta get 'em to

their medical appointments, to the, to the shopping and to the church.

So, uh, yeah, it's moving around people and doing it in a way that's

convenient and, uh, and, uh, really also, uh, good for the community

and, uh, so the, the green aspect of the technology part of it and

that's wonderful.

Ryan, thank you so much for being our guest today.

Welcome.

Um, I was gonna ask you one more question, just I feel like I want to ask you this.

So what is your vision?

Uh, you know, if you wanna project out where you want this transit system to be

in 10 years, you've been there 12, I'm sure you wanna stay there for a while.

What is your vision?

What are you shooting for

I'm shooting for?

a place, a system where everybody will leave their cars at home and

utilize public transportation.

If I could

get

every single person who has car households, four car car

at home and get on the bus.

well done.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's my vision.

I want people to utilize bus, uh, transportation services.

Well, I can see why Mayor Dave hired you.

You, you, you have the ability, uh, obviously, you know, you're

very articulate and, but you also have the passion for it.

Yeah.

And you're a believer in it.

I can tell.

that's wonderful, man.

I appreciate you both being on the show today.

You know, coming off the trade show floor to come over here and chat for a

a

minutes.

I think we've learned a lot and I wish you all the very best in your new facility.

And, uh, and going hydrogen man, clean.

Hydrogen green.

That's awesome.

I love it.

Uh, and hopefully we'll catch back up with you in a year or

two and see how it's going.

Sounds good.

Thank Paul.

Yeah.

Thank

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you, mayor.

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