Welcome to Close it now, an H Vac sales training podcast with Sam Wakefield.
Speaker AHere we'll build your reputation in residential H Vac sales to be the expert influencer in your market.
Speaker AYou'll get insight into the top minds in the industry as they share their skills and hacks to help you on your journey.
Speaker AThis podcast isn't just about selling more.
Speaker AIt's about understanding your customers needs and building efficiencies behind the scenes so you can sell more but work less while being top of mind when people think H Vac.
Speaker ANow let's get started with your host of the Close it now podcast.
Speaker AThis is Sam Wakefield.
Speaker BWell, hey everybody, welcome back to the Close it now podcast.
Speaker BSam Wakefield here, and I am so excited about my guest today.
Speaker BThis guy is a total beast, but underneath the beast exterior, he is one of the most sincere, kindest, honest, full of integrity people that I know.
Speaker BAnd you're going to hear that in this episode.
Speaker BI'm sure that we'll talk about some of that stuff.
Speaker BHis story is also one of the coolest, most inspiring stories too.
Speaker BYou know, when you, when you see success, everybody thinks, oh man, he's got it easy, he's got it easy.
Speaker BBut what you don't see is the, the hard work and the effort and all of the behind the scenes.
Speaker BAnd he's logged his 10,000 hours in before he got to this space, so it definitely shows.
Speaker BI'm super excited to welcome to the show today.
Speaker BThis guy is tracking for a little over 4 million for the year.
Speaker BHe is.
Speaker BAnd here's the cool part.
Speaker BHis average ticket is, would you say 12?
Speaker B7?
Speaker BIs that what we just said?
Speaker C13.
Speaker B13.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker BOh, I'm trying to cut out a grand there.
Speaker BThirteen, seven.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BSo that's a lot of.
Speaker BHe's closing a lot of projects, y'.
Speaker BAll.
Speaker BAnd so everybody hailing in from Mississippi, this is Corbin Allen.
Speaker BWelcome to the show, man.
Speaker CThank you, brother.
Speaker CThank you.
Speaker CBeen watching you for a long time, listening to your podcast for a long time and that's awesome to be here and thank you for the kind words.
Speaker BYeah, man.
Speaker BWell, tell us a little bit of.
Speaker BSo I gave kind of a sneak peek, but tell us a little bit.
Speaker BWe always start out as, you know, on the, on the interview.
Speaker BSince you listened for a while, you always kind of start out with a highlight reel, man.
Speaker BTell us, give everybody a little bit of your story.
Speaker BWhere, where'd you come from?
Speaker BYou haven't been in the, in the H Vac industry a real long time, but it's been a good Time, that's for sure.
Speaker BSo, yeah, give us, give us the.
Speaker BGive us your story, man.
Speaker BGive us your journey.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CSo we'll backpedal and kind of start from teenage years.
Speaker CMy mom and dad were never really together.
Speaker CShe remarried.
Speaker CI had a stepdad, that's who I call my dad.
Speaker CThey got a divorce.
Speaker CShe got on drugs really bad.
Speaker CI ended up making some really bad choices.
Speaker CDropped out of school in the 8th grade, got into a lot of trouble and at 18, found myself in prison for a couple of years.
Speaker CGot out when I was 20.
Speaker CLike I said, I dropped down in the eighth grade.
Speaker CSo I didn't really have any skill set to offer any employer.
Speaker CI didn't have an education.
Speaker CI was working some, you know, in and out jobs.
Speaker CI was doing carpentry.
Speaker CAt one time I was really hungry, like I wanted more.
Speaker CBut the limited mindset that I had adopted was, oh, if you're a felon, you can never really have anything.
Speaker CYou can never really make so much money.
Speaker CYou can never really live that type of life.
Speaker CSo doing carpentry, didn't have any idea about carpentry.
Speaker CBut within about two or three months, I started a little side business building furniture.
Speaker CAnd every time that I built somebody something, I would just price in the next tool that I did to the project or I knew it, I had everything that I needed.
Speaker CAnd while I was doing that, my uncle picked me up and started using me on the weekends doing some commercial industrial change outs for a bigger company in Mississippi.
Speaker CAnd after about six or seven weeks of doing that, he came to him and he was like, man, you were using you too much.
Speaker CYou're getting too many hours.
Speaker CWe cannot keep using you on the weekends, man.
Speaker CI really enjoyed it, you know, I really liked it.
Speaker CBut he said, we can hire you, Get a brand new pay for insurance and you can make like $75,000 this year.
Speaker BSo how are you full time?
Speaker BYeah, right?
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CSo, you know, going to what I was coming from, that was like, oh man, I didn't know what 401k was.
Speaker CI didn't know that you could have insurance.
Speaker CI didn't know you were supposed to get paid overtime after.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker CDidn't even know, man.
Speaker CSo I jumped in and really just hit it hard.
Speaker CI mean, I would work a 12 hour day and then come home and watch YouTube videos.
Speaker BSure.
Speaker CListen to podcasts on the road that, you know that windshield drive time.
Speaker CJust taking it used to my advantage.
Speaker CAnd within about six months, he does not run calls by himself.
Speaker CHe just helps enhance tools and from Six months from hiring on, I was running all the calls by myself.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker CWow.
Speaker CDid that.
Speaker CDid that for a couple of years.
Speaker CWe ran a lot.
Speaker CIt was 24, seven on call.
Speaker CSo I started exploring different avenues, different areas, and found a residential job.
Speaker CAnd coming into residential, I had the mentality of, man, these guys just try to sell people stuff.
Speaker CI'm not going to sell anybody anything.
Speaker CI know how to do this.
Speaker CI know how to fix this stuff, and that's what I'm here for.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CAnd, man, I realized that I had the wrong mentality on it and was able to get, you know, at the company that I hired on with, they didn't let service tech sell equipment.
Speaker CYou had to turn it over.
Speaker CThat's true.
Speaker CI was able to work my way into service sales where they did allow me to sell equipment on my service calls.
Speaker CAnd for, you know, six or seven months in a row, I was producing really good numbers right there, most of the time at the top of the company.
Speaker CSo I was like, man, the only difference between me and the comfort advisors are they get home earlier, they don't have tools, they don't change condenser fan motors, and they make more money.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BThey're not laying down on their side changing blower motors in a hot attic in the middle of the summer.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CSo had a conversation with the owner and was able to transition over from service sales into a company advisor role last August.
Speaker CFinished that year out, you know, majority of the year while I was a service tech, but I finished out right over three mil.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CThis year as we sit, I think I'm at 3,750,000.
Speaker CSo I should track over, you know, a little four.
Speaker CA little over four.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker CBut when I first took this residential job, I was looking online and I found the Close it now podcast.
Speaker CAnd it was your episode early on with Gene.
Speaker BYeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker BWith Gene Slade.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CAnd Gene Slade was given the surge protector script.
Speaker CI was like, man, this guy's good.
Speaker CAnd I took it and ran with it and started utilizing it.
Speaker CAnd that helped me kind of.
Speaker CThat helped me get to where.
Speaker CWhere I was at on the service sales side.
Speaker CAnd I just continued to listen to you and continue to listen to him.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CAnd after about a year of really, you know, utilizing everything I could find the jeans online, he ended up giving away a ticket to his mansion event.
Speaker BOh, cool.
Speaker CIn Florida.
Speaker CThat he does.
Speaker CAnd it was a question.
Speaker CYou had to have that right answer to the question.
Speaker CAnd I was the one that had the right answer to the question.
Speaker CAnd I remembered the answer to the question because I heard it on one of the podcasts.
Speaker BOh, how fun.
Speaker CAnd the question was, what is the salesman's two best friends?
Speaker CAnd the answer was silence and questions.
Speaker CAnd I was able to go down there and meet with him and really get some more information that he has and then, you know, just kind of taking it from everybody in the industry.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CSo I'm blessed to be here, man.
Speaker BI love it.
Speaker BOh, so cool.
Speaker BYou know, that reminds me, there's a really, a really famous personal growth trainer, Jim Rohn.
Speaker BHe is.
Speaker BOne of his most famous quotes is.
Speaker BIs.
Speaker BAnd this totally.
Speaker BYour story reminds me of this quote.
Speaker BIt says, you know, an education will make you, can make you rich, but self education can make you wealthy and can make you, can make you a fortune.
Speaker BAnd man, you're living proof that, you know, who cares if you don't have a high school degree, you know, diploma and a college degree and all that stuff?
Speaker BBecause you chose.
Speaker BYou g. You became hungry and chose to learn, right?
Speaker BAnd then not.
Speaker BNot just learn, not just get knowledge, but implement.
Speaker BI mean, your story about the.
Speaker BThe search protector script, but you immediately implemented it.
Speaker BYou know, success happens at the speed of implementation, right?
Speaker CSpeed of implementation.
Speaker CAbsolutely.
Speaker BLove it.
Speaker CYeah, I've been super blessed.
Speaker CI got a beautiful wife, beautiful boys.
Speaker CWe got four children.
Speaker CThree of them are married into one of them we had together three years ago.
Speaker CBut I love them all the same.
Speaker CWe've been super, super blessed from where we started.
Speaker CWe just continue to grind it out and keep pushing and.
Speaker BOh, no, we had a quick break there, but give.
Speaker BSo give us some quick context here.
Speaker BHow old are you now?
Speaker C25.
Speaker B25.
Speaker BYou hear this, everybody?
Speaker BThis is a. I mean, what a cool story from getting out of jail at 20.
Speaker BAnd by the time he is 24, crossing the $3 million mark across a year, 25.
Speaker BHitting a $4 million mark in the year.
Speaker BFrom talking about zero to hero, Rags to riches story, because he put the time in and he put the grind in, you know, I mean, we heard him, right?
Speaker BHe spent all the time on work, 12 hour days, but then go jump on YouTube and listen to podcasts also.
Speaker BAnd so, man, what a cool story, dude.
Speaker BI freaking love it, man.
Speaker BSo what are you really excited about right now?
Speaker BI mean, what's got.
Speaker BI mean, let's stay within the industry for a minute.
Speaker BAnd you know, in H Vac there's so many things going on, so many things changing.
Speaker BWhat are you seeing in Mississippi, right?
Speaker BSo many people are like, oh, you can't do that kind of dollars there.
Speaker BThere's no money in the state and all this.
Speaker BAnd, you know, we're talking a little bit about credit declines.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BAnd so I want to dive into those numbers because here.
Speaker BIn a minute also.
Speaker BBut kind of what are you excited about?
Speaker BWhat's going on that's got you on fire, man?
Speaker CYou know, I went to Gene's Mastermind in June, and then I went back in August.
Speaker CSo I've been able to implement a lot of that.
Speaker CAnd I'm in his two times a week NINJA class.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CSo I'm steadily learning stuff there and applying that.
Speaker CI mean, as we approach, you know, what everybody else calls the shoulder season, I'm just trying to stay consistent, follow the process.
Speaker CJust closed out October at346.
Speaker CI had a 41, 000 day yesterday to start the month.
Speaker CSo just staying consistent.
Speaker CWe picked up some no credit check lenders here recently that have been good for us.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker CBecause we see, we see a lot of credit declines.
Speaker CI mean, if you look at the statistics, Mississippi, we do have the lowest credit rate and we are the poorest state.
Speaker CSo, I mean, you can only expect that.
Speaker CBut I don't let it get me down.
Speaker CI just, I keep the same process.
Speaker CI give everybody the same opportunity to buy.
Speaker CWhether they're in a $900,000 house or a $80,000 double wide, they're still getting the same options, they're still getting the same, you know, treat them with the same respect.
Speaker CJust being consistent and being genuine.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker CThat's.
Speaker CThat's got me a long way for sure.
Speaker CBut I'm excited.
Speaker CAs cold weather comes in, it gets to my hobby.
Speaker CI like to hunt, so I'm getting to, you know, get into that.
Speaker CAnd I was able to shoot a deer with my bow a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker BOh, nice.
Speaker COpening day.
Speaker COpening day of youth season is this weekend, so hopefully one of my boys can shoot one.
Speaker CAnd then, you know, as the holidays come in, we travel and, and just unplug and breathe a little bit after a year of running.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker CSo.
Speaker CBut one thing I am excited about, we got a competition going right now.
Speaker CFrom November 1st to December 31st, if you sell 600k, you get a trip to Rome.
Speaker BOh, a trip to Rome.
Speaker CI'm pushing for that.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BHave you ever been to Europe before?
Speaker CNo, I've never been out of the country, so.
Speaker BWell, get your passports in order because I have zero doubt that you're going to hit that.
Speaker BIn fact, we can, we can talk offline about how I'm helping people.
Speaker BLike, if there's not leads coming in, we're just going to go make them.
Speaker BBecause it's.
Speaker BIt's so easy to do right now in our.
Speaker BIn our environment.
Speaker BUm, this just like.
Speaker BYeah, because that Hunter mentality.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BIt's like, instead of just sitting around and waiting for things to happen to you, let's like, okay, let's make it happen.
Speaker BThat it's like, if we take radical responsibility for our life and are providing for our family, then, hey, okay, I don't care if I don't have a lead.
Speaker BLet's just go make it happen.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker C100.
Speaker CI was listening to that episode, and you were talking about how we within the industry are so lazy.
Speaker CLike, doctors have to go to school for eight years to make this type of money, and then they have to perform surgery on people.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CYou want to knock on doors.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd they get like, what, 4, 4, 5, $600,000 in debt to do it and then have to climb back out.
Speaker BAnd we get paid along the way.
Speaker CWe get paid along the way.
Speaker CAnd it's just crazy, but it's so true.
Speaker CLike, we just don't want to beat the door down, but yeah, man, create your own luck.
Speaker CYou know, That's.
Speaker CThat's what I call it.
Speaker CCreate your own love.
Speaker CLike, sure.
Speaker CDon't wait for it to happen, you know, because if you're waiting for it to happen, it probably never will.
Speaker CLike, you got to go get it.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CYou got to take.
Speaker BI love it.
Speaker COh, those were great episodes.
Speaker BWe've got a couple more coming.
Speaker BThat's.
Speaker BWe're.
Speaker BWe're recording right in the center of the.
Speaker BThe series.
Speaker BThere's two more of those that are happening.
Speaker BAnd then actually, it's interesting the.
Speaker BThe timing of this episode.
Speaker BWe're recording for everybody listening.
Speaker BWe're recording November 2nd, and there is.
Speaker BI'm starting the speaker series for Door to Door Con, which is going to be at the end of January.
Speaker BSo I'm one of the speakers up there in Salt Lake City.
Speaker B25, 26, 27 in January.
Speaker BAnd it's got, man, talk about a place of five to six thousand, just Hunter mentality.
Speaker BPeople coming together that have decided to take that responsibility and set the world on fire.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BThe thing that blows my mind is what we didn't know in the H Vac industry for so long because we were just blinded to it, is there's literally hundreds of people across the country that are making a million dollars a year in commissions and their own revenue on the Doors and we have a way higher ticket item than most of them do.
Speaker BWe're just not doing it.
Speaker BIt's like Corbin, if I told you there was 5, 10, 15, $20,000 in this neighborhood, you just got to go find it.
Speaker BIt's behind one of those doors.
Speaker BAnd you could do it every single day, would you?
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BIt's just a matter of like saying hi to people.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CAnd that's something I'm going to implement.
Speaker CYou know, moving into the, into the new year for sure.
Speaker CThat's some of the goals that I've already put down for myself is to quit being lazy in that aspect.
Speaker CLike knock on the doors, follow up.
Speaker CLike the fortune is in the follow up.
Speaker CAnd there's, there's so many follow ups that I just don't.
Speaker CThat I could.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CBut I just choose not to.
Speaker CAnd it's like you said, just being lazy or being content, you know.
Speaker BWell, good is the enemy of great.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker CKind of unraveling and turning into a different animal.
Speaker CLike I told my wife, my goal is to be 100 debt free by 30.
Speaker CThat house, that's everything that we have, you know, knocked out.
Speaker CSo from 30 to 40, we can just buy property.
Speaker BSure.
Speaker CAnd get cash, flow it and turn it into rentals or whatever we want to do there and some other avenues.
Speaker CBut I told her, I was like, you know, 20, 24 different animal.
Speaker CLike I'm zing in.
Speaker BLove it.
Speaker CWe're hitting those goals, man.
Speaker CWe might take 30 and drop that to 28.
Speaker BThere you go.
Speaker BOh, man, I love it.
Speaker BSo, so with the, when, when you're doing that and you're doing.
Speaker BThis is cool too, because I, I love when these like conversations turn into like a totally different direction.
Speaker BSo this is the time of year people do start doing that, goal setting and planning for the next year.
Speaker BAnd so when you're, when you're doing that, what, what are some of the mindsets that kind of break it down for everybody?
Speaker BBecause clearly you've done a lot of development.
Speaker BSo when you, when you're sitting down with her, and I'm sure you're all probably going to do a lot more in depth as it gets a little closer to the end of the year.
Speaker BBut you know, you, as you lay your plan out and you work backwards with it, what does that look like?
Speaker BI mean, just take us through a little bit of the exercise that you're, that you're doing.
Speaker BSo you have a very clear idea and clear path for getting into 2024.
Speaker CMan.
Speaker CI started setting goals before I really had a lot of time for growth and development while I was incarcerated.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CI mean, I spent that whole little over two years just working on myself and I set some goals and I came out and I crushed them, but they were so small.
Speaker CThey were tiny.
Speaker CLike, one of my first goals was make $750 in a week.
Speaker CAnd I, looking back, I was like, that's limited mindset, man.
Speaker CThat's all I thought that I was capable of.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CAnd now it's crazy because, like, just the lifestyle that we feel Now, I mean, 750 a week would get me anywhere.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker CYou know, but, man, just looking back over that, I really learned that there's an old Charlie Greer saying, if you think you can, you're right.
Speaker CIf you think you can't, you're right, too.
Speaker BYeah, yeah, yeah, you got it.
Speaker CI don't know if that's Charlie Greer that said that.
Speaker CSomebody said that.
Speaker BYeah, he.
Speaker BThat's a.
Speaker BThat's a quote from Henry Ford.
Speaker CHenry Ford, Yeah.
Speaker CHenry Ford said that.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BWell, and you're right, Charlie.
Speaker BI love that you referenced Charlie Greer, man.
Speaker BHe's an old timer, trainer in the industry, man.
Speaker BHe was.
Speaker BHe was great.
Speaker CYeah, absolutely.
Speaker CI stole that one from Gene.
Speaker CBut, man, that's such a real saying.
Speaker CLike, if you think you can't, you're 100% right.
Speaker CYeah, you can't.
Speaker CBut if you think that you can, you're 100% right.
Speaker CYou can.
Speaker CSo as I sit down, I read, you know, one of Grant Cardone's book seller, be Sold.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CHe talks about, you have got to be completely sold, not just necessarily selling on yourself, on the company that you work for.
Speaker CAnd, man, I'm 100 invested.
Speaker CI believe in, you know, taking, Taking yourself serious.
Speaker CInvest in yourself, invest in your, your physical, your mental.
Speaker CJust a holistic approach from every aspect, man.
Speaker CLike, I want to grow.
Speaker CI want to be the best that I can be, and I'm gonna get there.
Speaker CLike, we're gonna keep setting goals, we're gonna keep moving forward.
Speaker CLast year, December 9th of last year, I didn't really have a huge problem with alcohol, but I'm one of those that cannot drink.
Speaker COne or two and stop.
Speaker BSure.
Speaker CLike, once I get a buzz, I start to chase it.
Speaker CAnd I wasn't all the time drinker, but when I would drink, like I said, I couldn't stop.
Speaker CSo December 9th of last year, I looked at my wife and I told her, Next December 9th, I'll be able to tell you that I haven't taken alcohol in a Year.
Speaker CFive years from now, I'll be able to tell you that I hadn't been five and so on.
Speaker CAnd here we are.
Speaker CThis time next month, I'll be able to tell you I hadn't drank any.
Speaker CSo here's little things.
Speaker CI find things that are.
Speaker CThat are in the way.
Speaker CYou know, I find things that are in my way, and we just push them out and we just knock the door down.
Speaker BMan, I love it.
Speaker BMan, your mental resolve is inspiring.
Speaker BAnd so I. I love those types of moments when we can, you know, make a decision and so commit to it that it doesn't.
Speaker BIt's not even on our radar anymore.
Speaker BSo it's that belief system, right.
Speaker BIf I believe I am the person that doesn't even pick it up, then that's.
Speaker BThat's my.
Speaker BThat's the person I am.
Speaker BIf I believe I'm the person that, well, I'm trying to quit and it's.
Speaker BIt's a struggle, then it's going to be a struggle.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BSo tell us a little bit more about that.
Speaker BWhen you make those kinds of decisions and those resolve, what.
Speaker BWhat has helped you to become so steadfast in.
Speaker BIn that commitment?
Speaker CI got a really strong relationship with God.
Speaker CFor me, personally, that's.
Speaker CMy spirituality is huge.
Speaker CThat's why I've gotten to where I've gotten, and that's why I've had the opportunities that I've been given.
Speaker CGod will open a door for you that you're not supposed to be in.
Speaker CLike, for me, there's some job opportunities, like where I'm supposed to.
Speaker CWhere I'm at now.
Speaker CI don't believe that I would have got.
Speaker CIf God want to show me favorite.
Speaker CSure, he showed me favor.
Speaker CThat's the thing.
Speaker CWhen he opens the door, you got to put the work in to get where you want to get.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CIt's not just gonna hand it all to you, but I've been very, very blessed in that.
Speaker CIn that way also.
Speaker CWhen I set a goal like that day when I said that, my.
Speaker CWhat I tell myself is I used to be a man that drank alcohol.
Speaker CI'm no longer a man that drank alcohol.
Speaker CI used to be a man that did drugs.
Speaker CI'm no longer a man that did drugs.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CSo.
Speaker CSo, like, yeah, I used to be that person.
Speaker CI accept it.
Speaker CBut no longer, like, that's gone.
Speaker CI just stepping step into it, get off of it.
Speaker CLike, if I'm standing on that platform now I'm jumping off of it and it's behind me.
Speaker CYeah, I Don't even know where it's at.
Speaker CI'm gonna try to see if I can show it to you.
Speaker CWhen I was.
Speaker BFor everybody, everybody listening.
Speaker BHe's.
Speaker BHe's driving down the road.
Speaker BSo we.
Speaker BWe had to do this while he's in the car.
Speaker CBut when I was 15 years old, man, I started getting in a lot of trouble.
Speaker CThat's gf.
Speaker CSo God, family money.
Speaker CI got that tatted on me back then.
Speaker CAnd back then it was a rap label.
Speaker CI thought I was going to be the next rapper, man.
Speaker CBut I still look at this today, and it's God family money.
Speaker CFor me, like, those are the three things that I look at when I make a decision.
Speaker CI ask myself, is it going to bring me closer to God?
Speaker CIs it going to bring me closer to my family?
Speaker CIs it going to make me more money?
Speaker CAnd if it's a no on those, we just don't do it right.
Speaker CBut if it's a yes, we cut off and we move whatever we have to move to get that in alignment with where we're going.
Speaker BWhoa, I love that.
Speaker BThat is powerful.
Speaker BIt makes me think a lot about, you know what?
Speaker BSince, you know, since you've listened to so many episodes, one of the things I talk often about is core values.
Speaker BAnd when we get in alignment with our core values and how sales.
Speaker BI mean, to apply it to sales, it's not the performance of an hour, it's the overflow of a life.
Speaker BBecause if some elements of our life or, you know, if they suck or, you know, we're.
Speaker BWe're not living up to what we know we should be doing in alignment with our core values in certain areas, what's going to affect everything else?
Speaker BAnd so I love this.
Speaker BThis conversation because you're.
Speaker BYou're a clear representation of somebody who's, you know, exactly what your core values are.
Speaker BWell, clearly they're added on your.
Speaker BOn your bicep.
Speaker BBut.
Speaker BBut you.
Speaker BYou also.
Speaker BYou don't just know what they are, but you filter your decisions through those.
Speaker BAnd so for you, it's God, family money for.
Speaker BI mean, everybody has their own, you know, specific set of those core values.
Speaker BBut, man, clear success is, you know, is represented here because you.
Speaker BYou live in that level of integrity and you don't compromise on it.
Speaker BAnd, and, man, that's.
Speaker BThat's.
Speaker BThat's so inspiring.
Speaker BSo for everybody listening, I hope you.
Speaker BYou see Corbin as a.
Speaker BAn inspiration and of what can be possible if you put in the work.
Speaker BAnd, gosh, it makes me think of the scripture when you were talking about putting in the work, too, because.
Speaker BAnd, and kudos to you.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BGod opened the door, but you walked through it.
Speaker BIf you didn't take the steps, then what's.
Speaker BThe door's just gonna stay open and let flies in.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BSo it reminds me of the scripture was that faith without works is dead.
Speaker BYou can believe all you want, but until you take.
Speaker BUntil you take the steps along with it, you know, that's where.
Speaker BThat's where most people miss, you know, even if they're just law of attraction.
Speaker BAnd I'm gonna visualize this.
Speaker BWell, if you don't take inspired action along with it, then you're not doing anything.
Speaker CThat's it.
Speaker C100, man.
Speaker CYou got to put the work in.
Speaker CGot to push the grind every day, man.
Speaker CI heard when I got home, I was able to, you know, my first weekend home, I was able to go speak at some churches.
Speaker CAnd I believe that a lot of my blessings came from transparency.
Speaker CIt's hard to put your failures on front street.
Speaker CAnd I was on the front page of the newspaper here in my small city of 20,000.
Speaker CRight, sure.
Speaker CSo I was the kid that Paris didn't want.
Speaker BWait, wait.
Speaker BTime out, Time out.
Speaker BWe're doing 4 million in a town of 20,000.
Speaker CWell, we're covering the whole state, so my.
Speaker CBut the city that I live in, yeah, it's about 20,000, but we're.
Speaker CI'm covering a broader area than that.
Speaker BSure, sure.
Speaker BBut still, I mean, so, yeah, so you're going to pick up some more population, but forever also.
Speaker BSo, I mean, this is the coolest thing we're getting.
Speaker BWe'll get right back to your story because I totally want to hear about your speaking in front of the churches, but I don't want to miss this because this is.
Speaker BThis is a huge nugget.
Speaker BI mean, for everybody.
Speaker BBasically, what we're doing this episode is anybody who's making an excuse that you're eliminating it in this story because the lowest average credit score, low.
Speaker BI mean, super low education, average level in the state, super low income level.
Speaker BWe've got your cover it.
Speaker BYou're in a town of 20,000.
Speaker BSure.
Speaker BYou cover a huge area, which means you have a crazy amount of drive time and not a dense population.
Speaker BSo the other after story, I want to jump into the close rate numbers we were talking about because of the insane amount of credit declines.
Speaker BAnd he's still putting up $4 million, everybody.
Speaker BSo if you.
Speaker BIf your excuse is, oh, it's my market, or it's the credit or all of the things it's.
Speaker BThat's because you believe that it's not.
Speaker BYou don't choose to focus on I can.
Speaker BYou're choosing to focus on I can't.
Speaker BSo, man, big nugget there.
Speaker BSo, okay, back to the story, man.
Speaker BYou're.
Speaker BYou're.
Speaker BSo you're on stage, you're put.
Speaker BYou're on the front page of the newspaper, and you.
Speaker BYou know, you put all your failures right on front street.
Speaker CYeah, man.
Speaker CI mean, it's embarrassing to publicly, you know, speak about where you.
Speaker CWhere your shortcomings were, you know, And I was that guy for several years through my teenage years.
Speaker CLike, the parents didn't want their kids around, and I see why.
Speaker CYou know, I did drugs, I sold drugs.
Speaker CI wasn't in school.
Speaker CLike, I wouldn't want my kids around that guy either.
Speaker CNow that I have kids.
Speaker CRight, sure.
Speaker CBut getting out and being able to talk about that and say, hey, this is where I was.
Speaker CThis is where I'm at now.
Speaker CBecause I have found God.
Speaker CI've got a personal relationship, and through that relationship, I've had transformation and renewing in who I am as a person.
Speaker CRight?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CAnd.
Speaker BI'm sorry, we're cutting out there.
Speaker CSo for me.
Speaker BHang on.
Speaker BWe cut out there for a second.
Speaker BThe last thing we heard is transformation of you as a person.
Speaker COkay.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CSo I heard a saying one time, and it was, God can use a failure, but he can't use a quitter.
Speaker CAnd that was big for me because I'm like, man, it's not even about the choices that I made back then.
Speaker CLike, I can live a good life.
Speaker CI can be a good person.
Speaker CI just have to do it.
Speaker CLike, I just got to set them always behind me and just go.
Speaker CJust go, man.
Speaker CSo from that point on, I just hit it hard and kept going.
Speaker BLove it.
Speaker BSo that was really the foundation of where you started being able to make those decisions and stick to it so consistently.
Speaker BAnd then building that muscle over time is, you know, obviously that gets easier and better as you could make bigger resolves and make those decisions.
Speaker BExample, the Al, you know, eliminating alcohol, et cetera.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker CMan two, I'm gonna tell you like this.
Speaker CSo my wife, when we found each other, I was.
Speaker CHad been out of prison a few months, living in my grandmother's house.
Speaker CDidn't have a checking account, didn't know what a credit score was, didn't make any money.
Speaker CShe bought.
Speaker CShe bought me in there.
Speaker CShe saw me and she saw the potential in me of where I could be and she didn't care about, you know, my situation at that present time.
Speaker CBut it was, you know, during the day.
Speaker CThat meant a lot to me because she cared about me for me, right.
Speaker CIt wasn't about what I could do for her or anything like that.
Speaker CThat meant a lot to me, but she invested in me.
Speaker CAnd a year and a half later, on our second anniversary, we were able to get.
Speaker CWe.
Speaker CI was able to prop.
Speaker CActually give her a real ring because when I posted her the first time, I wasn't able to.
Speaker CSo our second anniversary, I took her somewhere.
Speaker CShe went to the bathroom and it was overlooking down in New Orleans, overlooking the city.
Speaker CAnd I had the waitress, I was like, look, she's going to come back from the bathroom in a minute.
Speaker CI'm going to get you to take a picture of us.
Speaker CAnd when you do, I'm going to pop down, I'm going to give her this ring that she doesn't know she's getting, right?
Speaker COh, cool.
Speaker CAnd we also closed on our.
Speaker CClosed on our first house that week.
Speaker CSo I looked at it and I was like, you're getting a return on your investment, right?
Speaker CYou bought into me here and that, you know, the, just the, the compound interest of good choices, man.
Speaker CShe gets up and goes to the gym faithfully.
Speaker CShe's the most persistent woman that I know person that I know faithfully.
Speaker CAt 4am she pushes me, man.
Speaker CAnd with.
Speaker CWith her and God in my life, I don't have a chance to step off.
Speaker CLike, it's just not happening.
Speaker BYou'd have to make a big solid decision to turn right, turn left, the road, 100% climb, climb over the barriers to be able to make a bad choice at this point.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker CThat's it.
Speaker BOh, love it.
Speaker BHe's got God on one side and the wife on the other.
Speaker BIt's like keeping you on the road.
Speaker CThat's it.
Speaker BOh, that's cool.
Speaker BMan.
Speaker BThis, this is so refreshing to have a conversation like this because it's not, not so many times, you know, we have great conversations, but we don't dive into some of the heart stuff.
Speaker BAnd that's the piece that is really missing in our society in.
Speaker BIn.
Speaker BIt's the piece that's missing in cells.
Speaker BIt's the pie missing in everything.
Speaker BEverybody stays so in their head with most things that they're missing.
Speaker BThe biggest, the.
Speaker BThe biggest driver, which is the heart piece.
Speaker BAnd man, I'm loving this.
Speaker BSo, so, so let's shift gears here real quick and go back to those numbers because there's so Getting back to eliminating some more excuses for people.
Speaker BAnd I hope that's what this is doing because I, I know it is for me.
Speaker BWe were talking before we hopped on this, on this recording, we were talking about close rates and the way that they're tracked and that kind of thing.
Speaker BAnd so you know, really in our, especially right now in our marketplace, I mean you're seeing probably the highest number of credit declines across the country strictly because of, you were already starting at a low threshold and then with our current economy, et cetera.
Speaker BSo for everybody listening, Corbin was to and go through it again, you were telling me your the trackable close rate with service Titan tracking everything is we say between 30 and 40%.
Speaker CBetween 30 and 40%.
Speaker CIt varies on the what I mean I'll have days, man, where I run five calls and I get a yes from everybody and I run them from our lenders like Good Leap Service Finance all the way down to our no credit checks.
Speaker BSure.
Speaker CAnd may not get them a penny.
Speaker CI'll have five calls, everybody said yes.
Speaker CAnd I've got 80 something or $100,000 in dead applications.
Speaker CAnd those days, you know, they, they're not fun.
Speaker CI don't enjoy them because at the end of the day I'm just a very good conversationist and an unpaid sales consultant.
Speaker CLike I go home, I didn't make any money.
Speaker CBut I understand.
Speaker CIt's just practice.
Speaker BSure.
Speaker CI got better.
Speaker CI did my job, I went through the process, I got a yes.
Speaker CI just couldn't get it funded.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CAnd you know, that goes against my close rate on service type in the way that it's tracked because I close it out and there's nothing that's, you know, booked as a project for us to install.
Speaker CBut I just don't let it get me down.
Speaker CI understand that it's a roller coaster, you know.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CIt happened this, it happened today.
Speaker CBut tomorrow is coming.
Speaker CI can only run so many dead apps before I get the yes, 100.
Speaker CYes, it's coming, it's coming.
Speaker CI just got to stay focused, keep doing what I'm doing and it'll come.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CIt's a byproduct of me being genuine, helping people, not going in there thinking about the commission.
Speaker CI'm going in there and I'm just a sales consultant.
Speaker CI'm just here to help you get what you need and I just got to do that.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CAnd the Money will follow.
Speaker B100 and the Cool Thing is everybody listening to you.
Speaker BYou know, there's a lot of people across the country that it's like, oh, I've got these 90% close rate.
Speaker BWell, what they're doing is they're pulling out all the credit declines, right.
Speaker BAnd so they're creating fake news, basically.
Speaker BSo I love that you're transparent with this, too, because, you know, we talked about this too.
Speaker BIf you pulled those out, you're running 60 to 70% close rate, which is amazing.
Speaker BAnd it's, it's obviously where it should be for somebody of your caliber and when you're mastering your craft.
Speaker BBut we've got to track those because it is, it's true.
Speaker BThat's true.
Speaker BNumbers.
Speaker BAnd everybody right now is seeing that strictly because it's our economy.
Speaker BIt's no fault of yours.
Speaker BNow, here's the beautiful part, and I can permission to speak a little bit of longevity into the vision here with what you're creating.
Speaker BSo what you're doing is creating a pipeline because the coolest thing will start to happen.
Speaker BAnd for everybody listening who's gotten really discouraged in the last little bit about all the credit declines the last couple years, stay with it, serve at the highest level, treat people with respect.
Speaker BIt doesn't matter if they get declined or not, that or not, that's not your fault.
Speaker BBecause what will start happening, and I've proven this year after year, when you stay with the same place for a long time, what's going to start to happen here in another year, here in another two years, your phone's going to start ringing.
Speaker BAnd what you're going to hear on the other line the minute you answer is, oh, thank God you're still with that company.
Speaker BWe finally saved up enough money for it, or thank goodness you're still with that company.
Speaker BWe fixed our credit.
Speaker BAnd so what you're doing is creating a pipeline of revenue which will and so your job, speaking of, is now everybody that so every single person you saw throughout the year.
Speaker BAnd this is a great exercise for everybody listening.
Speaker BThis is what successful people do that unsuccessful people don't think they do.
Speaker BYou keep a track of every single person you've sold or not and you're going to write a handwritten Christmas card to them.
Speaker BAnd every single person sold or not, we're going to put a reminder in some create some systematized way to set a reminder that like every six months, some form of contact.
Speaker BThat way you stay top of mind, you're the guy because after the experience they had in the home with you, they're not going with anybody else.
Speaker BThey just aren't able to do it yet.
Speaker BBut the minute they are and they know they need it and they know they want it, but the minute they are, when we can stay top of mind like that, who do you think they're going to call?
Speaker BThey're going to call you back.
Speaker BAnd so we're so for, I mean for years I would do 3 to 3 to 500k strictly in pipeline from people calling me back.
Speaker BThat said, I'm so glad we we moved to the new house and we want to do what we did at the last week.
Speaker BI mean I used to rip out three month old systems because the people where we, you know, we did super amazing zoning modulating systems at their previous house that you move into a brand new house and they hate it because now it won't do what they what their old house did.
Speaker BSo we'd rip three month old systems out and put do it again.
Speaker BOr people that just like I was saying, two years, three years, four years later, man, we finally saved up the cash.
Speaker BOur credit still sucks but we could pay cash for it.
Speaker BNow I'm just get come over and let's just get that.
Speaker BWe didn't call anybody else because we like you so much.
Speaker BJust get at the new numbers, whatever they are, we've got the money for it and it happens over and over and over.
Speaker BSo congratulations.
Speaker BI mean huge, huge right there in building a pipeline because especially in a state like that, in our current economy and for everybody listening that will happen as long as you don't just buzz out and not treat them like humans anymore.
Speaker BI mean for so many people credit is clearly our choices when we take responsibility for things.
Speaker BHowever, our economy is changing a lot of things, right.
Speaker BSometimes it's, it's not quite their fault but either way they're still humans and they still deserve the same high level of service.
Speaker BSo that, that's a little bit of input from being in the industry so long.
Speaker BI've seen it happen where people will reach back out and 100% they're going to be like oh my God, Corbin, I'm so glad that you're still work with that company.
Speaker BI'm so glad you're still answering this phone.
Speaker BWe're ready now.
Speaker BAnd those are the coolest days.
Speaker BI literally one time had a hundred thousand dollar day strictly from people reaching back out to me from previous years and it was like what is happening today?
Speaker BAnd so, so it will happen for you too.
Speaker BThe volume that you're seeing is way higher than anything I ever saw in the field.
Speaker BAnd I'll just tell you that Because I was years ago and, and doing some different things, like just totally different market, right.
Speaker BSo man, I love it.
Speaker BSo keep up, keep it up.
Speaker BBecause that's, that's what creates long term lasting revenue.
Speaker BBut man, so let's do this.
Speaker BAs you know, this podcast is known for having a very actionable item that people can implement immediately, like right away after listening to the episodes.
Speaker BSo hit people with some nuggets, man, drop some bombs on them.
Speaker BBecause we, we can't have a, you know, $4 million a year person on the line and not get a little bit of sales tips from you, man.
Speaker CYou gotta have a routine.
Speaker CYou gotta follow the same thing.
Speaker CYou can't just be like in the movies, Arnold Schwarzenegger, just, just shooting everywhere, hoping you hit.
Speaker CYou gotta be like a sniper, man.
Speaker CYou gotta lock and load.
Speaker CYou gotta know what you want.
Speaker CI'm sorry.
Speaker CI keep on having phone calls come in now.
Speaker BYou're good.
Speaker CYou got to know where you want to go, man.
Speaker CStart with the end in mind, you know, if you want to have a four million dollar year, then say that, you know, you got to believe it.
Speaker CSell yourself on it.
Speaker CBefore I swapped over, I hired on at this company in August, there was two guys that are my really good friends now that were service sales.
Speaker CNobody else could sell equipment.
Speaker CYou had to turn it over to the comfort advisors.
Speaker CWell, at the Christmas party I told them I'm gonna do $3 million next year.
Speaker CWell, at that point the highest comfort advisor had only done two.
Speaker CSo when I said that, they're laughing at me because it didn't seem realistic.
Speaker CRight, of course.
Speaker CBut guess what I did.
Speaker CI finished the year out at a little like 3,057,000.
Speaker BI love it.
Speaker CSo you got know DJ Khaled's got a book, the Keys to Success I think is what it's called.
Speaker CAnd he says that, you know, he was screaming we the best way back before he was what he is now.
Speaker CSure, Muhammad Ali, you know, he was saying that he was the best way before he said I'm the greatest.
Speaker CI said that before I knew I was.
Speaker CSo you got to be confident, not cocky, but you got to be confident.
Speaker CAnd when you do things that you tell yourself you're going to do, when you say, I'm going to start going to the gym, I'm going to stop doing this, I'm going to do this.
Speaker CWhen you do these things, you start to believe in yourself.
Speaker CYou know, that you can trust who you are.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CAnd then you believe what you say.
Speaker CYou're going to do.
Speaker CLike, if I tell you I'm going to do something, you can 100 believe it.
Speaker CI'm going to be there.
Speaker CI'm going to follow through with what I said.
Speaker CAnd because of that, I know when I set these goals, if I think I can do it, I can do it.
Speaker CI just got to do it.
Speaker CAnd when things get in the way, when the bad days come, because they're coming, right, it's a roller coaster.
Speaker CThere's always going to be something that interferes.
Speaker CJust like this morning, you know, we jumped on here a little late because we both had some things pop up, right.
Speaker CWe don't get off track.
Speaker CWe just stay focused.
Speaker CWe do what we said we're going to do and make it happen, you know, and be consistent, follow the process, have a routine.
Speaker BI love it, man.
Speaker CDon't let anybody tell you what you can't do.
Speaker CJust start with the small, man.
Speaker CThe little, small tweaks, compound interest.
Speaker BYou got it.
Speaker CGo to the gym one day and you come home and you look in the mirror, you don't see anything.
Speaker CBut if you do it for 10 years, I promise you there'll be a difference.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker CAnd it's the same thing every area of your life.
Speaker CThere's, you know, a lot of people say if it's something worth doing, you need to make sure you do it right.
Speaker CBut Jordan Peterson, in one of his videos, he talks about brushing your teeth.
Speaker CIf you don't have two minutes to brush your teeth, should you just not do it at all or should you brush them for 20 seconds?
Speaker BRight.
Speaker CAnything worth doing is worth doing.
Speaker CEven if you have to have assets sometimes.
Speaker BSure.
Speaker CJust do it.
Speaker CJust make sure you stay consistent and do it.
Speaker CAnd you win in the long run.
Speaker CBecause long term consistency always beats short term intensity.
Speaker BThat's a quotable line right there.
Speaker CLong term consistency always beats short term intensity.
Speaker BOh, that's.
Speaker CWinners win, losers lose.
Speaker BFacts, Big facts, brother.
Speaker BOh, I love it, man.
Speaker BWell, thanks for hanging out with us today.
Speaker BThis was, I'm glad we were finally able to make this happen.
Speaker BWe've been bouncing back and forth for, geez, a couple months now, I think, and I know the timing was right and that's the important part and 100%, I love it.
Speaker BSo moving into the through the rest of the year, man, anything you need, reach out.
Speaker BYou've got my full support and I'm here for you and everybody listening, man.
Speaker BCorbin is proving it does not matter where you come from, what market you're in, you put in the work, you put in the self work, you put in the belief, you put in the grind and things happen.
Speaker BSo this really feeds into, you know what?
Speaker BWe've been talking a lot lately about leading metrics versus lagging metrics.
Speaker BHe's like, you know, the lagging metrics are sales versus credit declines, all that kind of stuff.
Speaker BWho cares?
Speaker BWe do the leading metrics, which is showing up, having appointments, creating appointments and getting in front of people to get your opportunity in front of as many people as possible and provide that high level of service and the level of excellence that no one is outworking Corbin and no one is providing better excellence than Corbin in anywhere close to his market and is very, very clear.
Speaker BAnd so, man, huge, huge, huge shout out to you, brother.
Speaker BYou are doing, you're doing the work, man, and you're inspiring us all.
Speaker CAwesome, man.
Speaker CI appreciate you for having me.
Speaker CI'm glad we finally got to make it happen.
Speaker CI look forward to staying in touch and if you need anything, same here, man, just reach out to me.
Speaker BGood stuff, man.
Speaker BI love it.
Speaker BI, I hope to, hope to make it over to your area some, sometime and, and get out, get out in the field with you, man, because one of my favorite things to do is to do those ride alongs with rock stars and just iron, sharpen iron, you.
Speaker CKnow, man, I love it.
Speaker CYes, sir.
Speaker BYeah, good stuff.
Speaker BAll right, everybody, well, we are going to wrap here a couple super quick announcements.
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