Everyone is just so easily offended and everyone's looking something

to be offended over. I used the word sheep in a comment and

How many people don't like Trump? How many people think that America is

going to go to shit and Trump gets in? I think a lot of people want to kill him.

You reckon it's scripted? Scripted? No. It's so hard to give money

Seriously? Not knocking Beyond Blue, but a little bit ridiculous that

they wouldn't accept raised funds. The group was branded

that we promote rape culture in Australia and it was my

Welcome to the Better Bloke Podcast. I'm Matty. I'm Rob. And

we're just a pair of average blokes on a mission to try and be a

We're going to speak about all things highs and lows of what it feels like to be a bloke,

plus speak to some legends along the way about what it takes to be a better bloke. Let's

Welcome back to the Better Bloke Project. We're here with the

OG founder of Bloke's Advice and the third

member of Better Bloke Project. You're making your debut

Oh, I don't know. Yeah, me neither. I don't

Welcome to the set. Thank you. It's good to finally be here. Bit

of a process getting here, but thanks for having

No, probably not a shout out to Jetstar, but just for

any future endorsement deals that might be coming our way. But

yeah, I won't be flying Jetstar for the foreseeable

future. No, not a fun experience? Well, we

missed our flight yesterday. We had

to, it was an expensive day. So yeah,

missed our flight by two minutes and there was no leniency. So

yeah, it was just ridiculous. So I think Jetstar has

like moved their time to, it's now 40 minutes. You have

to be there 40 minutes before where all the other airlines are 30. Stitched

Taken aback. It's been what, eight, nine years ago since, you

know, you kickstarted. 2016, yeah. Kickstarted this little Facebook page

Right? Yeah. It's a long time, long time ago now. It

Those first couple of years were really chaos. It

was a whirlwind. Um, you were, you were a young bloke at the time now

and not so much anymore if you're grazing the deer, but walk

us through like, how your life was sort of

chaotically changing, dealing with this like

sudden, what would you call it? It was almost like a cultural phenomenon.

Yeah, it, mate, I was, uh, a

uni student sitting in a lecture at the back of a lecture when it all

kind of kicked off and was kind of just like inviting my

mates in that were in the uni lecture and you could just kind of

see like one by one it was like a because I was like sitting at the back

so like you could see like all their heads kind of roll and then it

just blew up like as Rob would know Rob was in

it from an early stage it just went absolutely nuts.

It was the, I'd call it the wild, wild west of

Facebook. It was when stuff was unregulated. It

was just, yeah. Uncensored. Uncensored. It

was just, yeah, it was, it was a crazy, crazy time. Um,

and I guess having no experience in running a Facebook group,

it was just, yeah, the first, the first month was just wild, wild.

Um, but. As yeah, it was just

like, what's the word? Yellow.

Yeah. Okay. No, unsustainable, unsustainable.

Yeah. Very different to the word yellow. Um, but

yeah, so kind of moved it with the help of Rob and

a couple of other pretty important boys moved the page in a

more sustainable, um, like direction. And yeah,

About eight years. People always talk about it like, because obviously

the variety of posts that go up, there's a

little bit of something for everyone. Yeah. And sometimes still it

ticks people off and they're like, nah, this is bloke's advice. This

shouldn't be in bloke's advice. And it's like, who's to say what it is?

No one. That's the, that's the beauty of the page. It's, there

is something for, for like for everyone, you know, there's something for

you, there's something for you, something for me. Um, But

yeah, it's the, it's the beauty of the page and that's what makes it so unique is

there's, it caters to someone from 18 all

up until like my dad's age at 65, you know, like he's

on it and a couple of like other older boys I know they froth it,

you know, cause like there's stuff about cars and motorbikes and

I think the way that with what you were saying before was sort of the way that we

all took it to what it is now. A lot

of people bitch and moan about that. But it

had to go that way or else it would be non-existent now. Absolutely. With

Dude, you've seen what it's like now. I use

the word sheep in a comment and I got banned for

30 days because that was bullying.

I wasn't even saying it in that sense, but unfortunately

that's the world we live in today where everyone's

a pussy. It's fair. Yeah. It's

the nicest way of putting it is everyone is just so easily offended

and everyone's looking for something to

And I think that's what's made Bloke's advice. continue on its journey,

what it is, as much as everyone goes like, oh, you know, admin

are doing this and this and this, we don't let

anyone not talk about whatever the fuck they want. It's so,

all the bands that get handed out, like you just said with, you know, using

the term sheep and that, that all comes down from the algorithm that just comes through.

Facebook's got their AI pumping now, which is kind of like,

without us doing it as reined in what can happen inside

the group. Yeah. But like, as long as you're somewhat civil in

your discourse, you can talk about whatever the hell you want. And I

mean, still plenty of space to offend some people and

At getting offended. I mean, I'm a lot smarter in how I do it

now. But it comes back to that whole what we were talking about the other day. People

can't just say shit and not expect a rebuttal that they're not going to

All behind a keyboard. I love it. But now I'm not doing it

behind a keyboard. I'm looking at you while I'm doing it. Yeah. Rob's not

tough at all. No, I'm not. Just cuddle me. Like

I said, none of the way that we directed it had any

input on which way it was already going. We may have just- We

It was the members ultimately who dictated where

we went. We really just jumped on

and we've been along for the ride ever since. Yeah, we

might try and help it go in a certain direction if it's veering off

track, but Yeah. It's the

With, with the early days. So you, you come under a bit of fire back

in the early days. A little bit. We won't go into too

Okay. So there was, we'll

use the, the big under fire moment. Was

Page 11, baby. Page 11. So I was meant to be,

we were meant to be, but unfortunately it was

my face on the thing. We were meant to be page

one of the Sunday Mail, but... Benny

Barber was up to trouble again. He stole the

limelight and he was page one. So I think we, yeah, page 11. And

the group was branded that we promote rape

culture in Australia. And it was my face

that was attached to that. Um, and the, it

was ridiculous because everyone wanted to, every

news agency, they wanted a piece. Everyone wanted to

do the story. And I knew someone who was, uh,

in the career mail at the time. So I was like, I've drank with

that dude. I've partied with him. He's a good dude. He's not going to throw me

under the bus, dude. Right under. Do

you know what? I actually need a car jack or something

to get me out underneath the bass that I got thrown under. It

was ridiculous. It just got

completely thrown out of context. His whole article was just

negative, negative, negative, negative, negative, negative. And

at the end it was like, and Brock wants to do good with the

group in the future. That was like the last little bit. I was like, so

yeah, it was a two page spread. My mug. on

Shout out, shout out Devo. Rolled me a, rolled me a

tailor. No filter as he likes to do it. And

yeah, got a, got a photo on the OG, OG shirt for it.

Yeah, it's probably not the best headline. But now we get to talk about it. Do you remember

Or maybe it was the online one. It was Bloke's Advice's Disgusting

and Brutal Guide to Raping Women. Oh, wow. That's what's online

to this day. And we should probably mention the

whole thing stemmed from, in the early days, I think it

No, I'll tell you. Sorry. I'll tell you what it stemmed from, that thing.

It was a Jake the Musk meme. that's what it was. Someone

put in the group, it was a Jake the must meme, which everyone's probably seen the movie

Jake the must, not the greatest role model for your kids, but

it's a movie, all right? So anyway, someone put a

meme up, it was something, I think it was about cook me some eggs or

it was something, and that's what they grabbed. And

so that was the whole, that's where it started. And

then unfortunately, it's like a couple of comments from different

people, which Like, at the time, how

That year, I think we would have got somewhere around 15 million fucking

comments. Like, it was literally, there

was almost like eight, nine hundred thousand people by the time

that group ended. Like you said, Wild West,

chaos. It was unfiltered. Facebook didn't take anything down. So

Nah, you lose that many comments. Like when that

many comments are coming through on a post, you lose them until unfortunately, the

algorithm will put that section of comments in someone's feed and

But even then there was like, there was this hype around it because

at that point it was still like the secret group. Oh yeah. And it was like

invite only. And there was this big hype going around that. There

was so many burner accounts getting made by a

Oh yeah. They found my, um, they found my home number. So

they found, so you've both met my mum, shout out Jano, absolutely

lovely lady. One of the best. Actually one of

the best. Um, so you could imagine her,

this sweet, sweet little lady getting phone calls from very, very

angry females, um, telling them that they, yeah, wanted

to kill me wanted to do this I've got it you've like you've got

it coming to you so it was a bit of a scary time

as well you know because you didn't know what was going

to happen and like that whole um uh like

feminist movement but the aggressive like what's the like

uh toxic feminine yeah yeah that whole movement man

I don't know. Are we going to attach it to Clementine? Cause she embodies the not hot

Talking about someone who was hot. Off

Off all that controversy, it did see the growth, right?

Yeah, absolutely. So whenever you stand for something and

we stood for bloke culture and not being offended, don't

be a fucking snowflake, it saw... Also not

raping though, they just took that out of context. Yeah, that was fully out of context. We

don't condone that. So obviously it offended a lot of people. Yeah. At

the same time, that controversy is what made people

love it as well. That's what draw people in. Yeah. And you saw a lot

of growth off like kind of having two sides and

Well, yeah, it's like with, I guess without that, what

you just said, we wouldn't have grown. I don't think we would have grown to where

we, like where we got to and where we are today. And

without, without growing, I guess, to that rate, we wouldn't have

been able to do all the fantastic things like that we've done, you

know? Um, and like, I remember, I think I was, was I

speaking to you before I took that, um, career article?

the Korea Mail article. I can't remember if it was you. I'm pretty sure

it was though. And Rob was just like, any

publicity is good publicity at the moment. And

that's what, and you know what? And yeah, I just, I ran with that

and it did, you know, like it was, and I guess you, you

bottle that up with the, the secrecy of the

group, you know, like, of course blokes want to get involved, you know, they want to

see what we're up to. They want to see what we're doing. And then I guess

when the word gets out about all the fantastic things that we were doing, Everyone

It sort of makes it like that, that bit of secrecy and like taboo

of like this old man's club. Yeah. Like

if you're, if you're a bloke and you're not part of it, you're missing the fuck

out. Yeah, absolutely. Everyone wanted in. I remember we were at

EH years ago and it was literally,

that was like every fucking conversation was like, were you in

Only the ones, but it may be for life. Sorry, it's

It's 2099. It says on it. Oh, that's right. Yeah. So

Here's what it is. But like everywhere in

that peak time, everywhere you would go out.

I remember I went to, did you ever go GPO? A

couple of times. Shout out GPO. Stomping ground for many years. I

remember one of the bartenders just was like, he frothed it.

And I think I got in there at nine o'clock. It is the drunkest

I have ever been. I think in my, there's photos I had

at my cover photo on Facebook for a while. One of the boys actually dropped me home at like

one, one o'clock, I think. And he took a photo of me.

I was like passed out in the front yard of my house.

He somehow got me to the back door. I don't remember. I opened

the garage door. Remember like at that place? Garage door

went out and crawled into the dog's kennel where my parents found

me. I don't remember. I woke up in my bed the

next morning, completely changed, bucket, towel next

to me. And I was like, well, my parents undressed me.

Yeah, and put me back outside. Yeah. But

yeah, he was in it. So he was just lining up shots.

And then boys were wearing their BA, the OG

BA shirts, out underneath their button up shirts. So

they'd open it up. It was cool. It was a cool part of

like, it was a cool couple of years. It was sick. Yeah.

But yeah, I guess we've just gone

down a different path now, which is fantastic. We

always wanted to get to where we are now, doing

what we're doing, but we almost didn't have the tools

and the know-how. It's pretty

cool to see how far it's come. the

It's kind of cool in the sense that, so when we were all like,

what, 2016, so we were all early 20s, 18 and all

that sort of stuff. 22, I think I was. Yeah, so early 20s

then. So everyone was like loose in that period. Very loose.

BA was loose at that time too. Very loose, yeah. Now, we're

all grown up. BA's grown up with us and it's sort of

like, it's like BA's sort of grown up and BA's like, I need to stop partying.

I need to stop getting on it. I'm going to get a job. I'm

going to do the right thing in society. That's what BA's done.

So BA has grown up as we

It's just evolved with us. That's all it is. But also very unsustainable to

And that's, and that's what I mean. It's like with me, 22 was

very loose. Like it's. Yeah.

I had no idea what I was doing. No idea. Didn't know how to run a Facebook

group. Didn't know you could approve posts. Like,

so like everything was just getting approved, like straight away. It

was just on the feed. So

At the start, like it had all this loose stuff, but

it also quickly developed the camaraderie side

of it. Yeah. So you mentioned before, like all the good shit. Yeah, of course. That

was all happening during this crazy period. I know. And it

was almost like even bigger for it because there was such a

strong bond between this fight club of a secret group.

Yeah. What are some of like the first things that

kind of kicked off inside the group, whether it was the raising

I think the very first one was, it

was just to the point where I was like, do you know what? I think we could probably do, we

could do something good. There's this many blokes here, everyone's

keen to do something. We raised, I think it

was like 30 grand for a, it was a local men's shelter

who, it was like a boxing shed. 26K. Yeah,

yeah. Yeah, so we raised that for

them, which helped them improve their facilities and get blokes

down to there. I mean, honestly, the

list is so big of what we've done, like paid for weddings,

we've paid for funerals. We've

helped out when there's been an outcry, we've

tried to help where we can. So

And that's only the stuff that has been recorded.

via like the actual posts itself by donation. Absolutely. The

amount of boys that- Man, behind the scenes? Yeah, that have gotten around other

stuff. And like, I mean, how many boys have gone out and

just, I think it was only a couple of months ago, someone put a post up about an old bloke in

a house and a whole bunch of guys went around and just fixed his house

Yeah, nothing to do with us. It was just a connection. That happened when

Cairns flooded as well. The boys with the boats went out

and helped. I think something happened with flyers over in WA recently.

Yeah, exactly. So it's just, yeah,

the power of the group's just been fantastic. Like it

When Zuckerberg's not bending us over. Might have enjoyed it though.

Yeah. It's um, going

back to The, the 26 K for

that, the men's shit. Yeah. It wasn't always meant to

It was, um, so like we raised it

for beyond blue, but because we didn't

go down the right raising. platform or

whatever, they wouldn't accept the money. And

then I'm pretty sure I tried a

couple of like those mental health kind of charities and

no one wanted to take the money because it wasn't done through their correct like

fundraising avenues. So

it just got to the point where I was like, well, how about we just help, let's

help someone local who's struggling and try and make a

difference that way. So yeah. Probably

made a bigger impact. 100%. 100% it would have.

Not knocking Beyond Blue, but a little bit ridiculous that they

Yeah. We touched on this on a couple of episodes ago that

But it takes so much to actually do good. It's kind

We'll also just, on the record, we'll take anything that

anyone wants to throw our way. We're not picky. No.

We're not picky. No, we're not. We're not picky. Clearly

Yeah. We just need a massive Facebook page to be

Yeah, there's a couple trying, but I think that's the thing, like BA set

It was like, if you go back, Just BA

set up this whole different culture. It wasn't there

online or anything before BA. So

many things stemmed, like the whole bloke this,

bloke that, bloke this. As soon as bloke's advice happened,

Yeah. It changed everything. And it, it even, it came before the podcast game

really kicked off. So like there's all these podcasts now that kind

of embody what that BA was. Yeah. There's other... Puppercats. You

I stand by that. Me too. It's like, what, cause you

didn't invent the term bloke by no means. Bloke's been

Yeah. Okay. Sorry. But like you, you

definitely like reinvigorated the word in

that time, because before that, like Blokesweld, like

I reckon they probably got in a little bit

earlier. I'm actually not going to knock them at all. They're

Should we, um, kick it onto some other points of conversation?

Cause we did this episode, like maybe episode four, something

like that. And we ended it early and we had a whole

bunch of people that were saying it should

have gone on longer, but I felt like we couldn't kick it on until

Brock got here. Do you know the one I'm talking about? Not a clue. It's

This is very tearful. You take this, Dan. What's your favourite one? Where are

Yeah, honestly, how much time do you have? How much time do you have?

Yeah. Now, do you know what I find interesting at the moment is

the whole assassination attempt. What

I think it was legitimate. How many people don't like

Trump, right? How many people think that America is going to go to

shit if Trump gets in? I think a lot of people want

You reckon it's scripted? No. Bro, that photo

of him, he's got like blood on his face. He's

got like the most pathetic secret service team, clearly

paid actors, like hugging him. And he's like this, and

then he's got the American flag behind him. I'm like, that is the most,

it's out of a movie. It's album cover. Man, that

Man, do you know what? There's a lot of other words I'd use

to describe Biden, apart from lizard man, but also don't

No, look what happened with Kyle. No, actually he

Oh, tenacious D. I haven't seen that. I

He said some inappropriate things as a birthday wish. And

can you, can you repeat them or not? Oh, I can. Cause I'm just

powerful. You're the, you're the messenger. Yeah. Quotation marks. Quotation marks.

So I think it was his birthday in Sydney at their Sydney gig. And

for his birthday wish, he wished that the shooter doesn't

miss next time. Like, you

know, this, this was like two days after, so it was still fresh.

They're comedians at the same time. Actually illegal, apparently. Like

But also didn't like, um, I read somewhere that Biden had

put a bullet. He basically said, put Trump in your bull's

Okay. If he said that, why would a radical follower not

do what he said? And then it's not scripted. It's legitimate attack

on Trump. It could be like, you have to feel like there's a lot of people that

Yeah, do you know what, dude? And

I love Trump though, so it wasn't me. I

Yeah. I'm glad we got that scoop here on this

Matt wasn't there. Next, next

Not a theory, but what are your thoughts on chemtrails? And

this is shout out Alex, by the way, he loves my, uh, made our work with

loves me talking about this at work. Cause in Adelaide, you can just see him

I don't know enough about chemtrails. Like, is that come down to like cloud

It's legit. It's a legit thing. It's been proven that it's a legit thing. They put like

Yeah. But why is that? But people think it doesn't happen. People

It still is though. That's my thoughts. Exactly. It's a fact. But

people are like, oh, you're a conspiracy theorist. Take your tinfoil hat off. And I'm like, yeah,

Oh, bro. That's a conspiracy. Is

there a number I can call? Like, fuck all the police? You

know, I actually called the police because I got robbed. There's been an assault. Yeah,

I guess assault on my manhood, but like also robbed. So

I hadn't had a haircut in a while. Um, booked one

last night. So like your normal haircut price at

the moment, like I told you guys at Brachy this morning, it was like your normal haircut

price is between 50, 50 and 60 bucks. I

A one all over? Yeah. What do you do it yourself? No, but then they do my beard and

Yeah. My guy. So like, you know, and I'll lay back and they towel

my face and then they put all this smelly shit under there. And

then. I'm getting hot and sweaty too. Nah, but I actually,

this is going to be a bit rough to hear this. I got violated last

Like as bad as I did. This is worse. Dude,

So I was lying back had my eyes shut

while he's doing me big. So I didn't want my little shit to go in my eyes obviously. Hate

shit in my eyes. I then come up and one

of the boys I know is sitting over there. I'm like, Oh, hey, man. He's like,

yeah, I didn't go down to the gym later on the day. And

up on the all-star boxing pages story, he's put me sleeping with

Like he didn't even know the photo was, didn't even have a clue

Yeah, well, I, yeah, I got, I

Yeah. Again, but you know what? I got raped, man,

Financially. Financially. So yeah. Woke

in, walked in this morning. Lovely dude. Not

So, $60, like I was saying, normal price for a

haircut between $50 and $60. So, I was happy to pay that.

Went in and I was like, man, do you reckon like – I haven't touched my beard. I was just

like, do you reckon – half a bid. I was like, can

you just line it up? Make it look just a little bit neater than it is. And he's like, oh

man, you booked in for a 45 like minute session. I

don't know if I'll be able to do it. And I was like, oh, okay, no stress. All

good. So anyway, I got to the end, he pumped it out in half an hour. So he goes, we've

got 15 minutes free. I can do it if you want. I

was like, that'd be fantastic. So gave me like

a little line up there, just like kind of shaved under here a little bit, ran

the trimmer through there. That was it. Took him probably five minutes max. Did the whole

tower, like tower treatment. Got up to the counter and

it was $95 on the thing. And I just kind

of, it was one of those moments where you just go, you tap

it and then you walk out and I was like, I just got assaulted. And

then I phoned my fiance and I said, I've just been robbed. I

just got robbed. Classic Gold Coast. So $35 to line

up your beard and just take a little bit off that. So it was essentially I

Yeah. See, the barber I go to, it's

50 bucks cash. It's just cash. It's all cash. Yeah.

That's beard and hair. Mind you, it doesn't take much to cut. I was going to

say, I'll do it for 50 bucks. Well, usually Jess does it. Do you give

her 50 bucks? No. Oh,

wow. Yeah. Yeah. Shit. Now I feel bad. I would,

Yeah. Before you

got financially assaulted by the barber. Yeah.

your clustered fight of

a travel up BJS style. You came from Adelaide. I

did come from Adelaide. Where you now live with

the missus and the little one. Yep. And you're doing an apprenticeship.

It's very loosely, very loosely. They

So yeah, I started, um,

when I moved back from the Sunshine Coast, I started that and

yeah, it's been, been fantastic ever since. So

How are you finding, going back on the tools, like

Yeah, definitely. My body hurts a lot more. Um,

just like you see some of these young kids just like throwing

around stuff. And I'm like, man, I used to be able to do that, but

like, I can't anymore. Like you do that. I'm like, that's a back, that's my

knees. And like, you're wearing a nail bag around all day and it's just, yeah,

the wear and tear on your body is definitely, um, Yeah,

it hurts. It hurts. You definitely come home like a

little bit more tired and just don't have that pep

in your step you had when you were 20. But no, it's been

good. I'm lucky enough to work with some good guys. Got

a fantastic boss. Shout out Jesse to

give me the time off to come down here and do this. He's a big believer in what we're doing.

Yeah, I was going to correct him too. I hate it when people do that. Yeah. What? You

You came up. Yeah. Man, it's

my pet peeve too, but I'm so used to like being

in Queensland and going down. We'll just move back to

Queensland then. Don't worry, mate. It's on the

cards. It's getting off that plane and it being like

20 degrees sunshine and yesterday, like Adelaide,

You can tell that you've adjusted, like we're both sitting here in hoodies and you're just... Man,

I was walking around in shorts and a shirt yesterday afternoon and

people were like, aren't you cold? I was like, bro, it's like...

I was telling you boys, um, at breakfast, there was a day, a

couple of weeks ago, it was actually a couple of days that it

dropped to like zero degrees in Adelaide. So

it was like the coldest, the coldest morning on history in Adelaide, where

it, it was like zero degrees and felt like

negative three. So I had, I had a singlet, my

long sleeve, my jumper, a jacket, and

like a vest on over that. And I was still like uncomfortable.

So yeah, it's not, um, it's not ideal.

So yeah, I think we'll probably in the next couple of years start trying to

make some little adjustments to, to get back

To get back to God's country. Yeah. It is the best

state to be in. It is absolutely the best state. Like there is

Probably don't bring that up if you want to keep all your teeth. If I'm being fair

After we finished these episodes, sometimes he's shadow

When we walked in, we both, we both went to shadow box each other. And we're like, uh,

Um, something that you've been thrown into pretty

hard by the sounds of things is parenthood. Yeah. So

I'm the dude that doesn't know about kids. We can tell. For the

How old is he? You're lucky you're pretty. Let's

restart that. So you're a new dad, bro. Yeah, thank you. Congrats.

How are you finding being a dad? Yeah, good. I'm, I'm really lucky.

I like I have a fantastic fiance who is

just the greatest mother and partner. She

makes being a parent very, very easy. We've

got a pretty easy kid. He's very highly strung, like

me. He's very go, go, go. But He's

good. We get 12 hours sleep a night. He goes down at seven, gets

up at seven. So that's pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. I don't

get that. Yeah. So he's, um, he's a,

it's man, it comes down to my, my fiance, man. She's just

a, an absolute guru at being

a, being a mother. So she's just got all his nap times down to a

tea. She's got everything. She runs a tight ship, runs

a tight ship, but it's good because it just means we get sleep.

Seriously, you kind of have to have all your wits about you. Don't

get me wrong, there's a couple of nights that might be a rough night where he's up

a little bit, but you definitely feel that a little bit more in

the mornings. All in all, I've been

Has it been that long? As long as it has. Yeah.

If you move down there, just as she, if they months, I

use in like months, it gets into like, cause I, it's like a

year and three months, you know? So like, but I think

Why don't you just use weeks? Like, Oh yeah. I've

Yeah. Cool. All right. Maybe I was like, no, maybe I

I'm prepared to let you just to see what that looks like. I don't

know, man. He's a big, he's a big boy. It's Oregon. It's gonna look

I think that's exactly what it would look like, but we might have

to find out cause who was talking shit about some

other podcasts earlier. Someone was talking shit and

Sounds like Brock's definitely the shit talker between the three of us. Yeah.

Maybe. Yeah. But you know, look,

if anything does happen with any podcast competitions,

Yeah. So Brock versus Spaniel or something. We just get him in

He's such a G, isn't he? He's such a G. He's a weapon of

He's a G. Yeah. See, that's another bloke going back

to what we were talking about before with sort of BA turning into

what it is now. He's done the same thing. Absolutely. All

his shit that he started with, he was, Pretty thug.

He's great. He's great. He still is. But he's like, he's grown with his

following. Yeah. And shout out to Spaniel. And

if you want to jump on here, I will a hundred percent fly back for that

because yeah, that is a, that's a dude that has

my respect that, that the light, one of the latest ones

where he was somewhere in, I think it was South America and

Yeah. Nuts. And all you need to look at is

like what he's doing. overseas with

like he's into the hoods and all that sort of stuff. There was a couple of, I think maybe a

month or two back, um, that whoever

was helping him get over there was like, Oh, we want you to do this. And he was like, no, fuck

you. I'm not like, like this is a hood because it's

like a third world country that you're in a hood because they want to promote

it or whatever. And he just went like, nah, I'm not, I'm

not getting about this because they can't help that. And I was just like, fuck that.

And that's, I like when he jumps on his stories and he says this kind

of stuff and it's, you know, less scripted than the YouTube

videos. It's very authentic. And I think he's found his,

his sort of pace at talking about himself and what

he believes. He's just sharing it like authentically and

I don't, do you know what? I don't think he lasts a round. No?

Nah. Cause to be honest, I'm pretty quick. So I'd

This is where you look down the barrel and you say that. I don't

Oh, don't think you'd last a round. That's

You'd have him. I'm confident. I'm putting money on you. It'll

Yeah. I think it'd be like a hundred bucks, a

hundred. I think the Spaniard would be like a dollar one. Actually, I

think he'd probably be paying like 99 cents. You'd actually lose money betting

Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's, that's fair, but fair

judge pigs. Is it like F A I R

or F A R E? That's a different one.

Speaking of 50 cent fares in Queensland now, another reason for you to Come

50 cent fare. I thought you meant like a fare for 50 cent. It

Yeah. We can finish this podcast off with a

I reckon. Yeah. Is there anything else you want to get out there before we

Not really, unless you two- Have you got

any big plans coming up with,

like what's your, so you said like long-term you want to move back

Yeah, I guess it's just finishing off my apprenticeship, gaining

all the knowledge to put me in a good spot for if we do move that

I can kind of fit into any company or construction

mob up here. If that's the direction that like

me and the family want to go. Not really,

mate. It's just getting our house finished down at home, like down back

in SA, a little bit to go there and then, yeah,

You can't finish a fucking car. Buy

Fair call. Fair call. No, we didn't finish.

We actually sold the bus. Oh, you don't. Yeah. Okay. Sold the bus. That's actually

a bit of a touchy subject, Matt. You're getting really closer to losing those teeth

And then Valiant as well. Poor Rob. You

He was showing me earlier. He's like, I'm looking at entering

my first ever one of those raffle giveaways. And it was Mighty Car

Mods. Yeah, Mighty Car Mods. They're giving away a car trailer. And

Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, a car

Yeah, that's true. I'll get there. I actually, I

actually bought some lotto tickets last night. Did you? Yeah, 10 mil. Don't

What's the first thing that, what do you want? I'd like to finish the valve. I'll finish the

Thanks, man. I'll finish the valve for you. Oh, cool. That's it. Do you want another Swift?

No, they're still going. And they're expensive. The new ones are like $36,000. Oh, too

You can't have one of them. We're just going to keep talking shit

Yes. On that note guys, we're going

to call it quits. It was so good having you on and having a recap on

all those early days. People still talk about the glory

I think the glory days are to come. I think so too. We're on

a different path. What we're doing now is

I think once we kind of... And like, sorry, to bring

back to what you said, big plans, I think it's this. I think this is

the ultimate goal at the moment is us getting

traction with Better Blokes Project and getting art like

this out there so more men know what we're doing and want to jump on

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