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Speaker B:Welcome to the Own youn Choices on youn Life podcast.
Speaker B:I know you are here wanting to change and rewrite your story.
Speaker B:You are desiring to step into the impact that, you know you were here to create.
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Speaker A:The proven tools and strategies used by.
Speaker B:Myself and our speakers to support you in taking radical responsibility in your
Speaker B:life and learning how to own your choices to change your story.
Speaker B:My name is Marsha Van Winsburg.
Speaker B:I am a storytelling business coach, master NLP
Speaker B:trainer, speaker, podcaster, and seven times published author.
Speaker B:My clients have found freedom and purpose from overcoming their shame stories and learning
Speaker B:how to share them with the world.
Speaker B:I am so grateful you are here.
Speaker B:Let's get started.
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Speaker A:Welcome back to the show.
Speaker A:We are in about the middle of January at this point, and I don't.
Speaker B:Know if this is where they call.
Speaker A:It the Blue Monday.
Speaker A:The Blue Monday, where it's like, you know,
Speaker A:kind of the darkest times.
Speaker A:We're in this, you know, we don't have a lot
Speaker A:of daylight.
Speaker A:We're a few weeks after Christmas.
Speaker A:We're in this time.
Speaker A:And I know that this is where a lot of our goals can kind of fizzle out.
Speaker A:And I also want to give you a different frame to think about as to maybe a way to see why
Speaker A:yours might be fizzling out, if they are.
Speaker A:And one of the reasons is, is that do you know what your capacity is?
Speaker A:Like, do you actually know what your capacity is?
Speaker A:This is actually something.
Speaker A:I didn't even understand this word.
Speaker A:I bet you even a year ago I was the put your head down, get it done, work hard, push hard.
Speaker A:And capacity was like, well, of course I can do it.
Speaker A:I can just, I just do it.
Speaker A:And there comes a point where it's like,
Speaker A:you know, you've got the,
Speaker A:that meme where the waiter's juggling all the plates and they're like, plates on plates on
Speaker A:plates, and you're trying to juggle it all.
Speaker A:And that's kind of what capacity looks like.
Speaker A:It's like, okay, so maybe you can hold it for
Speaker A:how long? Is it fun?
Speaker A:Do you enjoy it?
Speaker A:What does that look like? And so one of the things that I wanted to
Speaker A:share from this lens, especially as you're coming out to the new year,
Speaker A:it's not about like gangbusters out and go full tilt and then burn out by the middle of
Speaker A:January.
Speaker A:That's not it at all.
Speaker A:We actually want to build sustainable process, which also means it requires patience.
Speaker A:And I'm laughing because that's always something I'm Working on.
Speaker A:But this is where capacity comes in.
Speaker A:I used to be led by my ideas in business and honestly I think that I had to go that route
Speaker A:to experience it first.
Speaker A:But what I did was I, I mean I would be in a space of like, oh, a new, new idea, new
Speaker A:program every month, new program every month.
Speaker A:And we'll wait new masterclass to lead the program every single month.
Speaker A:Oh, better post and share about that.
Speaker A:Three posts a day every single day to promote
Speaker A:all the new programs.
Speaker A:And I can even hear it in my energy.
Speaker A:But that's what I did and I actually think it
Speaker A:was good that I did that to recognize what I wanted and didn't want anymore.
Speaker A:So I am like the queen of ideas.
Speaker A:Honestly, if you've been in my containers in
Speaker A:my world, you know how often I talk about that's content and the ideas that I have.
Speaker A:I have no shortage of ideas at all.
Speaker A:Does every idea go out into the world? Absolutely not.
Speaker A:I've got a notes app in my folder.
Speaker A:The ideas go into there,
Speaker A:even podcast ideas.
Speaker A:I get ideas all the time for podcasts and I
Speaker A:just like voice note them into there and then I come back and circle to them to see what
Speaker A:lands and what I'm living and walking through right now.
Speaker A:I'm no longer led by my ideas.
Speaker A:My ideas go somewhere to live.
Speaker A:What I'm led by is my own nervous system, my own capacity and my own like subconscious
Speaker A:alignment to where I want to go.
Speaker A:Do I believe that it's possible because we
Speaker A:only build what we feel sustainable?
Speaker A:If our system is built to hold it,
Speaker A:how can we build and support ourselves so that we can hold what we're building?
Speaker A:I love this quote.
Speaker A:It's unknown, but your nervous system determines what you can create, sustain and
Speaker A:receive.
Speaker A:Your subconscious determines whether you believe that you can hold it.
Speaker A:And the capacity is the bridge in between your ambition and your results.
Speaker A:That's capacity.
Speaker A:Now, I shared something in a podcast a few months ago that people loved and it was this
Speaker A:piece that if you build your capacity, your ambition can work for you.
Speaker A:Don't build your capacity and your ambition will work against you.
Speaker A:And that's what happens.
Speaker A:If you don't build the capacity,
Speaker A:you're going to be burning out non stop.
Speaker A:We want your ambition to work for you.
Speaker A:So ideas come in,
Speaker A:I park them somewhere, I revisit, and I ask myself, am I ready to bring this to life?
Speaker A:Where do I think it might fit in?
Speaker A:What does it look like? If I am making decisions and I'm sharing this
Speaker A:with you because I feel Like, I know it's going to land for somebody when I'm making
Speaker A:decisions.
Speaker A:And if it feels like it's like, oh, I have a thousand things on my plate, I'm feeling this
Speaker A:burnout, there's like, shiny object syndrome and comparison of what everyone else is doing.
Speaker A:And this proving energy that I can do it,
Speaker A:that is not sustainable.
Speaker A:That's a very dysregulated system.
Speaker A:And I know it very well because I lived there for years.
Speaker A:When it's regulated, it feels very clear.
Speaker A:There's like.
Speaker A:It's very precise.
Speaker A:My thinking is clear.
Speaker A:Those momentum without burnout,
Speaker A:and I feel like I can hold more pressure.
Speaker A:And that means I don't want more pressure.
Speaker A:But when more pressure comes in, I can hold it without feeling like I'm going to collapse.
Speaker A:I can have more success without feeling like I'm going to collapse.
Speaker A:That's what it looks like.
Speaker A:Your ambition will work against you if you
Speaker A:don't grow your capacity to hold more.
Speaker A:And that is a very simple piece.
Speaker A:So how do I decide what comes to life?
Speaker A:I take all those ideas, I put them in a notes app, and from there I start to look at it and
Speaker A:go, okay,
Speaker A:let's go inward first.
Speaker A:What feels good?
Speaker A:Where can I have space to bring that to life?
Speaker A:Every new level requires more energy,
Speaker A:more space,
Speaker A:the ability to hold more emotional bandwidth.
Speaker A:When we say yes before checking in or thinking
Speaker A:about capacity,
Speaker A:it can lead to resentment.
Speaker A:And I've done this.
Speaker A:I've actually, like, built and launched to something, and it's like, I didn't want to do
Speaker A:it.
Speaker A:I'm like, interesting.
Speaker A:Why is that?
Speaker A:I took a very solid piece of my program from 2025 and I stopped it.
Speaker A:I actually refunded people.
Speaker A:And I was like, I know that I don't have the bandwidth to do this anymore.
Speaker A:In this way.
Speaker A:In this way.
Speaker A:I'd done it for two and a half years.
Speaker A:That was actually not easy at all.
Speaker A:But I was listening.
Speaker A:That means going inward first.
Speaker A:Did I make the decision fast? No, no, no, no. It.
Speaker A:It was a long time coming.
Speaker A:So if we can check first for what the capacity is,
Speaker A:then there's a better chance of not sitting in resentment because you're exhausted and can't
Speaker A:service it.
Speaker A:Because how you serve people in your program will speak and ripple into referrals, into
Speaker A:more growth,
Speaker A:into so many different things.
Speaker A:That's what it looks like.
Speaker A:So we want to check in first.
Speaker A:We want to check in with our actual schedule,
Speaker A:our calendar, our energy, our bandwidth, the identity of who we are so that we can sustain
Speaker A:what we are building.
Speaker A:In my opinion, this is really what it comes down to, being like a heartwired leader.
Speaker A:And this is our mastermind, heartwired CEO.
Speaker A:It's our live event.
Speaker A:We speak about it all the time.
Speaker A:It's in both of our business, mine and Meg's,
Speaker A:and it is really this heartwired approach.
Speaker A:Checking in first.
Speaker A:Honestly, take the idea, shelve it, look at it, see it, how does it unfold, how does it
Speaker A:feel?
Speaker A:I had the idea for Unbothered back in June of 2025, and it is just coming to life now.
Speaker A:And I did a live podcast series called the Unbothered Mind.
Speaker A:It's in the show notes, it's free, it is sharing what that journey was like.
Speaker A:Why do you think I did that? I'm an auditory learner and I just practice
Speaker A:with the free podcast,
Speaker A:putting the content out to see how it feels, how can it land, how can I hold it, what does
Speaker A:it look like? Giving myself space and patience to bring
Speaker A:something to life.
Speaker A:Brand new information,
Speaker A:brand new way of being, I promise.
Speaker A:But this is what it looks like to listen.
Speaker A:Tune in first to your own nervous system first.
Speaker A:And when your nervous system is regulated, this is where internal safety comes from.
Speaker A:Internal safety means that you are ready to hold what you are creating.
Speaker A:You are able to be in a space of feeling grounded and neutral, whether it's all working
Speaker A:out or whether it's not.
Speaker A:If your body doesn't feel safe to hold what you're creating,
Speaker A:your subconscious literally will go, oh, my God, that's pressure, that's unsafe.
Speaker A:Let's block that.
Speaker A:And so you can have incredible opportunities that are right there, but you're so
Speaker A:dysregulated that you can't hold it.
Speaker A:It's like you've got all the plates going and then somebody throws a ball in and it like all
Speaker A:the plates come tumbling because you can't hold it all at the same time.
Speaker A:So this is why we want to set ourselves up for success.
Speaker A:If I can learn how to do this and pause and actually regulate first and ask myself for
Speaker A:capacity, what does it look like? I promise you,
Speaker A:this took me a long time to learn.
Speaker A:You can too.
Speaker A:You absolutely can, too.
Speaker A:So if your nervous system says, nope, not yet, what can we do?
Speaker A:How can we breathe, give ourselves space, regulate, pause,
Speaker A:rest,
Speaker A:Give ourselves time to recharge and get out of our heads and into our bodies to actually
Speaker A:ground before taking action.
Speaker A:Getting into that space is nervous system regulation that will allow you to make a
Speaker A:better decision,
Speaker A:to know if this is A yes right now or a not right now.
Speaker A:Do you believe that you can hold it in the way that you want to,
Speaker A:in a sustainable way that you can hold it? Does this idea feel safe?
Speaker A:Does it expand you? Does it collapse you?
Speaker A:Does it add pressure?
Speaker A:What identity do you have to step into in order to embody this?
Speaker A:Backing up.
Speaker A:When I shared about the concept of unbother,
Speaker A:it's big.
Speaker A:And it came from seeing Mel Robbins live and for reading her book and then walking through
Speaker A:a really difficult situation that feels really big.
Speaker A:So I'm allowing myself more time for it to land in a way that is sustainable,
Speaker A:that is the direction that we're going with it.
Speaker A:So expansion and capacity, like, it doesn't happen by pushing harder.
Speaker A:It happens by layering and practicing holding more.
Speaker A:More stillness, like, more sensation, more responsibility, more visibility,
Speaker A:more receiving.
Speaker A:Receiving support.
Speaker A:I actually have been writing about receiving
Speaker A:support for the last year,
Speaker A:and that is the only way this business has continued to grow is by allowing myself to be
Speaker A:supported.
Speaker A:And this is what it looks like.
Speaker A:Your capacity continues to grow because you've trained yourself that it's safe to hold more.
Speaker A:You know, holding more can also mean, like, a lot of other challenges, right?
Speaker A:Payment failures, clients that aren't aligned, things that don't work.
Speaker A:Like, I find everything in my life,
Speaker A:when I pushed to do it faster,
Speaker A:the plates all fell.
Speaker A:It's just what happened now that I've learned
Speaker A:this again,
Speaker A:probably not till I was 54 when I first learned it,
Speaker A:is being in this space of slowing down, pausing, and asking myself, am I ready for
Speaker A:this?
Speaker A:How am I feeling? What's my internal safety?
Speaker A:Can I juggle it? How does my calendar feel?
Speaker A:Where do I need support?
Speaker A:All of that comes before mapping out anything in the program.
Speaker A:And then it becomes clear of, okay, well, if something does feel off, what do I need?
Speaker A:Where am I lacking support?
Speaker A:See, the old hardwired way, which I thought was like a badge of honor,
Speaker A:meant I said yes to everything.
Speaker A:Yeah, I can do that.
Speaker A:I got it.
Speaker A:I got it.
Speaker A:Yeah, I know I have 10 things on the go, but I
Speaker A:can totally do that.
Speaker A:Pushing through pressure, ignoring how I felt, forcing things to happen,
Speaker A:sitting in comparison nonstop,
Speaker A:and, you know, ignoring the signs where my body was saying, stop it, Just stop.
Speaker A:This is enough.
Speaker A:And the old way of hardwired way was building a business that drained me.
Speaker A:It honestly drained me.
Speaker A:And now when I look at it, my calendar looks
Speaker A:totally different.
Speaker A:There's a lot on my calendar.
Speaker A:Don't like.
Speaker A:Like, there's a lot on my calendar, but not in
Speaker A:an overwhelming way.
Speaker A:I have found ways to build balance in my
Speaker A:calendar that fits really well.
Speaker A:I have three weeks a month.
Speaker A:I actually go pretty hard in those three weeks, still balance myself.
Speaker A:Don't like, don't hear me wrong, but the last week of the month is my integration week.
Speaker A:I rarely have calls that week.
Speaker A:I catch up, plan for the next month, what
Speaker A:needs to be done so that I'm not always behind the eight ball.
Speaker A:And that feels really good for me.
Speaker A:It allows me time to recharge and pour back
Speaker A:into me even more.
Speaker A:The heartwired way is that is respecting my calendar.
Speaker A:Taking a look at it,
Speaker A:asking myself the hard questions, can I hold and support this?
Speaker A:What does this look like and feel like?
Speaker A:Tapping into regulation, often recognizing when I fall into old patterns of pressure,
Speaker A:Letting my nervous system be the strategy, listening to what it's saying,
Speaker A:closing in on my own patterns that I need.
Speaker A:I have a great sleep regimen honestly and for
Speaker A:the most part we can be watching something that I love and I'm like, it's my bedtime, I
Speaker A:have to go to bed.
Speaker A:And it's so funny.
Speaker A:But it's just like I know when I need to be in
Speaker A:bed by to allow myself a chance to get the sleep that I need.
Speaker A:My body needs like very much a heartwar way and choosing ideas that align with the
Speaker A:identity of who I'm becoming and the long term vision of what we're building so I can have
Speaker A:great ideas.
Speaker A:I mean literally, I bet you less than half actually make it out into a business that
Speaker A:we're building, an offer that we're creating because I know it has to fit in with all these
Speaker A:other values first.
Speaker A:And that can change how I show up and changes how my business can grow and scale.
Speaker A:Because I am building a business that supports who I am becoming in the identity piece of it.
Speaker A:So when your ideas land,
Speaker A:write em down somewhere, look at it, ask yourself the hard questions, right?
Speaker A:You don't need more ideas.
Speaker A:You need to build the capacity to hold the
Speaker A:ones that are most important to you.
Speaker A:When you regulate first, your decisions become clear.
Speaker A:You have space to be more creative and your voice is more grounded and stronger.
Speaker A:It's not pushing.
Speaker A:And then all of a sudden you maybe can see your vision even more clearly.
Speaker A:When your nervous system feels safe to hold more, you layer it in.
Speaker A:All of a sudden you feel like, yeah, I can do this.
Speaker A:This feels good.
Speaker A:There's no proving energy.
Speaker A:It's actually a calm, grounded energy.
Speaker A:I can do this.
Speaker A:That feels good.
Speaker A:And it's okay to move Things back.
Speaker A:It's okay to bump things back if your capacity feels off, if your nervous system feels off.
Speaker A:Like, be honest with yourself.
Speaker A:I know it's hard when you're trying to build a
Speaker A:business and you actually do have to generate money.
Speaker A:Like we have businesses that are generating money.
Speaker A:If not, we have a hobby.
Speaker A:It's what we're doing.
Speaker A:So when you're here,
Speaker A:it's okay to put things off.
Speaker A:It's okay to say, that's a Q3 issue and where can I get support in Q1 and Q2?
Speaker A:What does that look like?
Speaker A:It is not quitting.
Speaker A:It's not playing weak.
Speaker A:It's actually being in alignment with who you are and how much you can hold.
Speaker A:When you do that, you can continue to grow your business in ways that are beyond what you
Speaker A:can see right now,
Speaker A:because it doesn't make logical sense in full, honest transparency of what we have on our
Speaker A:docket right now between Outspoken Publishing, Outspoken Coaching, there's so many things
Speaker A:coming this way.
Speaker A:And the nlp, the Practitioner and the Master Practitioner, as well as my one on One client,
Speaker A:the podcast that goes three episodes a week.
Speaker A:I'm not saying this to actually, like,
Speaker A:make it sound something that it's not.
Speaker A:I'm not even trying to pump the tires or
Speaker A:anything.
Speaker A:I'm just saying we've layered it all in.
Speaker A:And the concept of unbothered, like I said, came almost nine months ago.
Speaker A:And we are in a space of it is just unrolling now because I kept tapping into, what does it
Speaker A:look like? Can I hold it?
Speaker A:And I had a client last year who had booked a breakthrough day.
Speaker A:And a breakthrough day, to me is like the highest touch point.
Speaker A:A breakthrough day is eight hours with a client,
Speaker A:as well as giving them a personalized hypnosis and subliminals to support them in their
Speaker A:goals,
Speaker A:as well as a month of telegram coaching afterwards.
Speaker A:Okay, it's very high touch.
Speaker A:You can collapse three to six months in a
Speaker A:breakthrough day.
Speaker A:You can always reach out to me for them.
Speaker A:I book them months in advance.
Speaker A:But I just want to share this concept with you.
Speaker A:So it is like the highest touch point for me.
Speaker A:I had a client book last year in April, somebody that I was dying to work with.
Speaker A:And we booked it out to August.
Speaker A:And in this time, in August, when it was coming,
Speaker A:I actually had some really challenging personal things that happened for us and our
Speaker A:family.
Speaker A:And I had to sit with myself and I'm like, I felt so guilty because I knew I could do it.
Speaker A:I knew I could do the breakthrough day.
Speaker A:But I also knew that I didn't know if I could deliver it the way that I wanted to and the
Speaker A:way that she deserved.
Speaker A:It was one of the hardest things I've ever done because I looked at my capacity and I
Speaker A:went, if I do it and push through it,
Speaker A:I could probably pay for this for weeks.
Speaker A:And so I reached out to her and I was like, I feel terrible about this, but I actually want
Speaker A:to talk to you about capacity in a second.
Speaker A:I know we've had this book for months.
Speaker A:I don't think I can deliver it in the way that you deserve.
Speaker A:For it to be delivered at this point in two weeks time, I absolutely can.
Speaker A:What I am wondering is, could we postpone it for two weeks and could I offer you an
Speaker A:additional two weeks of coaching to support you and I,
Speaker A:you know, again, please know I don't make this decision lightly.
Speaker A:She responded back and she said, cause, I mean, I was.
Speaker A:The story I was telling myself was all about me and I was very disappointed in myself.
Speaker A:She reached back and she said, oh my God, absolutely.
Speaker A:And thank you for teaching me how to lead myself through a difficult time.
Speaker A:It all worked out in the best way possible.
Speaker A:She had the best breakthrough day and the
Speaker A:biggest transformation because I was in a different energy space and I didn't deplete
Speaker A:myself.
Speaker A:That's what I'm talking about with checking in with your own capacity.
Speaker A:Be honest with yourself so that you can deliver in the way that you desire to.
Speaker A:Okay. The way that serves your people best and serves yourself.
Speaker A:So that's the example that I wanted to share.
Speaker A:If you are here to really do some capacity work in 2026, if you're going and scaling your
Speaker A:business, then capacity should be a word like up front and center for you, as well as
Speaker A:nervous system and subconscious work.
Speaker A:Because that's what's going to hold the business that you're building.
Speaker A:This is what we do in the heartwired CEO in Outspoken in Unbothered, which is also
Speaker A:unrolling up too.
Speaker A:So I am so grateful to do this work with you and to share it in live time in a podcast.
Speaker A:I would love to know how it lands and how it's speaking to you.
Speaker A:Thank you, thank you, thank you for being here.
Speaker A:I appreciate you so, so, so much.
Speaker A:Keep going.
Speaker A:You have epic **** to do in the world and someone somewhere is praying for the solutions
Speaker A:that you are holding on to.
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