Evan: Which one of you picked chose the like decision was for the movie did you like
Speaker:Evan: collectively come to the decision to do.
Speaker:brandon: I feel like this was my decision but i don't remember making it because i definitely was gonna say i.
Speaker:Connor: Think brandon kind of came up.
Speaker:zach: With this from my memory.
Speaker:Connor: Yeah it was i think it was on the um on our colorado trip i think we we had
Speaker:Connor: discussed uh recording with
Speaker:Connor: with you and then uh i don't know who this decision was but i think i think
Speaker:Connor: i might have suggested smoky and the bandit and then brandon would have enthusiastically
Speaker:Connor: been like i fucking love that movie so.
Speaker:brandon: Well this as as i i have told the story on our show this is a formative movie
Speaker:brandon: for me like this movie bizarrely changed my life and that i'm mentally unstable
Speaker:brandon: and made decisions because i watched this movie too many times in.
Speaker:zach: There in there buddy,
Speaker:zach: i
Speaker:brandon: Before streaming was a thing but you could get like uh you know the cable services
Speaker:brandon: that would like you could direct like not direct tv but you you could basically
Speaker:brandon: stream movies but it was through like yeah cable uh i watched this movie like
Speaker:brandon: five times one weekend i think i was hurt or something and just laid up and
Speaker:brandon: that was how i decided to become a truck driver,
Speaker:brandon: a decision that led me to actually going to trade school and getting my cdl
Speaker:brandon: and becoming a truck driver before realizing i'm also too mentally unstable
Speaker:brandon: to be a truck driver could.
Speaker:Evan: Be worst thing that you could have chosen.
Speaker:brandon: Oh yeah i no regrets i still have my cdo well.
Speaker:bryant: There you go could have become a cop or something yeah even.
Speaker:brandon: In my least politically developed that was never a fucking option same.
Speaker:Evan: Here brandon t justice.
Speaker:brandon: I'll fuck right off with that shit.
Speaker:bryant: Yeah i think i had only ever seen this movie like on tv like in sections you
Speaker:bryant: know a few minutes at a time and you know i had like a vague idea about you
Speaker:bryant: know what it was about but like this is my my first time seeing it all the way
Speaker:bryant: through and it was a lot of fun for sure i.
Speaker:brandon: Haven't watched it in so long i truly did forget how like without using a hard
Speaker:brandon: r buford t justice is so explicitly racist yeah.
Speaker:Evan: I um the only thing i'd ever seen i think was the like the bridge jumping bit
Speaker:Evan: like i guess just because it was a famous scene and this is the first time i
Speaker:Evan: watched it full through and then i watched it a second time and it was uh it's a lot of fun i,
Speaker:Evan: I don't think I was surprised that I liked it, but I was surprised how much I liked it.
Speaker:brandon: Oh, it's so fun. And I really understand why Burt Reynolds was so much the charmer.
Speaker:brandon: He was such a cultural icon back then.
Speaker:brandon: And now it's almost like a joke. But looking back and watching some of his old
Speaker:brandon: movies, I totally get it.
Speaker:Evan: Yeah, the story that I heard, or the behind the scenes, apparently,
Speaker:Evan: he got the script and said it was the worst script he'd ever seen.
Speaker:Evan: and is like well but you know what i'll do it anyway because i like you know
Speaker:Evan: he was friends with the director and he's like well you know what fuck it i'll do it yeah i think.
Speaker:bryant: I think he said um he liked the story but the dialogue was garbage.
Speaker:Evan: Right and i think they but then apparently improvised a.
Speaker:bryant: Whole lot of the dialogue on set.
Speaker:Evan: Yeah it said that 80 of the dialogue from uh the sheriff was improvised and
Speaker:Evan: then at least half of the rest of the whole like sally field didn't even know
Speaker:Evan: how to do improv like kind of off the cuff and burt run is like oh she'll be
Speaker:Evan: fine and then i'm sure he's it was fine knowing.
Speaker:brandon: How much of this was improvised makes a lot of
Speaker:brandon: things make i don't know a lot about the background of this movie
Speaker:brandon: to be clear i just and also uh for anyone who uh i there's no reason i would
Speaker:brandon: have ever talked about this i fucking love jerry reed there was a period of
Speaker:brandon: time where i sought out any movie that he was in he is an amazing guitar player
Speaker:brandon: i know i have jerry reed records he has been one of my favorite country musicians for
Speaker:brandon: as long as I can remember. That dude fucking rules.
Speaker:Evan: Yeah, and he wrote the song, the theme song, in one night.
Speaker:zach: Which is crazy to me.
Speaker:brandon: I'm surprised.
Speaker:zach: Like, that blows my mind. That is such an iconic song, and just, like, so good.
Speaker:Evan: Yeah, they just gave him, basically, he read the script, and he went,
Speaker:Evan: you know, into his, wherever it was, and he wrote the song, and he goes to Hal
Speaker:Evan: Needham, the director, and said, you know, what do you think of it?
Speaker:Evan: And he's like, if you change one word, I'll fucking choke you out.
Speaker:brandon: Real quick, quick should we do any sort of introductions or anything we really just went right.
Speaker:Evan: Yeah i'll i'll we can use that as the cold open and i'll i can introduce you
Speaker:Evan: sometimes i just forget because we were just we're just chatting about it but
Speaker:Evan: yeah i cannot but thank you brandon for being the uh the voice of uh my voice of reason i.
Speaker:brandon: Honestly thought that we had agreed that we were doing fast and furious so when
Speaker:brandon: somebody was like hey are we still good to do smoky and the bandit with evan
Speaker:brandon: i'm like oh my fucking god really hell yes sit back in your seats get something
Speaker:brandon: to eat watch this movie don't let the kids see.
Speaker:Evan: This week on Left of the Projector I have the hosts the four hosts of Cars and
Speaker:Evan: Comrades and we're going to be talking about the 1977 film Smoking and the Bandit
Speaker:Evan: which stars of course Burt Reynolds Sally Field old Jerry Reed and Jackie Gleason.
Speaker:Evan: And thank you all for being here. Zach Connor, Brandon and Brian.
Speaker:zach: Thanks for having us.
Speaker:Connor: Hey, yeah, thanks for having us.
Speaker:brandon: Yeah, I'm stoked.
Speaker:Evan: Of course.
Speaker:brandon: We've been talking about doing a big collab between both shows for a while,
Speaker:brandon: so I'm happy this is finally happening.
Speaker:Evan: Yeah, I'm glad that you chose this movie. And as you probably already heard,
Speaker:Evan: this was some of our first times watching this.
Speaker:Evan: And I was kind of, you know, just kind of blown away how good it was and how
Speaker:Evan: funny it is. And it's just a solid all-around movie.
Speaker:Evan: But maybe before we talk about it, you do want to tell us about The Cars and
Speaker:Evan: Comrades. so I guess it's a perfect melding about a movie about driving cars
Speaker:Evan: and we were all comrades so we have done.
Speaker:brandon: Also it's not like as blatant but this movie is very much Fuck the Police I
Speaker:brandon: thought it was blatant I thought it was the whole point.
Speaker:Connor: Of the movie This.
Speaker:brandon: Is the most ACAB movie ever No because at the end he does that begrudging respect
Speaker:brandon: like oh I can't lie to you sheriff you're too good of a man He was fucking with.
Speaker:zach: Him I totally knew that Well.
Speaker:brandon: No, because he told him who he really was. If he was just messing with him,
Speaker:brandon: he wouldn't have been like, oh, by the way, I'm standing behind you.
Speaker:brandon: Actually, no, now that I say that out loud, I 100% understand how that's fucking with him.
Speaker:zach: That's his final fuck you to the guy. He's like, hey, you're not going to get
Speaker:zach: me. Like, look, I'm right here. You're not going to get me.
Speaker:brandon: 60% of your car is left. Good luck catching me.
Speaker:Evan: This is like when hillbillies, or when the Southerners actually hated cops.
Speaker:zach: Right?
Speaker:Evan: This is a throwback from that era.
Speaker:bryant: In the ending credits, it says this film was made with the cooperation of the
Speaker:bryant: Georgia State Highway Patrol or something like that.
Speaker:bryant: And I don't think that would happen today. Like if they were making this movie,
Speaker:bryant: like, I don't know if, you know, cops had more of a sense of humor in 1977 or if they did not, or,
Speaker:bryant: or if, uh, they just didn't like share the entire script with them or something.
Speaker:bryant: I don't know if this would get me.
Speaker:Connor: I mean, they were flipping cop cars right away.
Speaker:brandon: But, uh, my background, I've, I've discussed this on air.
Speaker:brandon: Um, I'm from Georgia and in the seventies, the George, a Georgia sheriff's deputy did murder my uncle.
Speaker:bryant: Hmm.
Speaker:brandon: Yeah so the police not chill in the 70s yeah.
Speaker:zach: Yeah i think yeah right away i think they've always been bastards it's not like
Speaker:zach: a new development that cops are shit i mean i think we all know at this point
Speaker:zach: that they their origins are in slave catching so you know not chill people ever really yeah.
Speaker:brandon: I do think that there's been a systemic shift towards a lack of accountability
Speaker:brandon: to like to individuals and like cementing like all these bad practices and policies
Speaker:brandon: because Because my uncle was murdered.
Speaker:brandon: He was literally, from what I am told, put down on his knees on the side of
Speaker:brandon: the highway and executed.
Speaker:brandon: And the sheriff's deputy did go to prison for that because everyone was like, oh, that's murder.
Speaker:brandon: As to where now, there's a reasonable
Speaker:brandon: chance that he would have gotten administrative leave or something.
Speaker:Evan: Got a talk show.
Speaker:Connor: Yeah, he would have become a right-wing icon. Like a Kyle Rittenhouse of cops.
Speaker:Evan: Tim Pool's guest host or something.
Speaker:Connor: Oh, God.
Speaker:Evan: But yeah so as i mentioned you do you all do have a podcast cars and comrades
Speaker:Evan: do you want to uh i guess the the name is quite obvious because uh you know
Speaker:Evan: maybe uh descriptive enough but do you want to tell uh people who may not know
Speaker:Evan: you i guess brandon you've been on the show before so people may have some inkling but.
Speaker:brandon: Yeah i'm not very articulate i repeat i am from georgia that's.
Speaker:bryant: Uh what do you call it internalized orientalism or something like that.
Speaker:brandon: Yeah no i'm being from georgia it's not why i'm inarticulate it's because i'm
Speaker:brandon: i'm so drunk which probably has something to do with being from georgia i don't
Speaker:brandon: know no okay um since i keep rambling on yeah we're we're a podcast where we
Speaker:brandon: are all leftists and talk about cars and car
Speaker:brandon: culture from a leftist perspective and generally try to as much as you can as
Speaker:brandon: a group of like white dudes uh we try to create some element of inclusion in
Speaker:brandon: car culture where you know there does tend to be a certain amount of right-wing shittiness yeah so
Speaker:brandon: We would like to make the hobby for everyone. Also, we've shifted hard into
Speaker:brandon: an anti-car position. That's an interesting term.
Speaker:bryant: Yeah, it's the more I like, you know, get involved with cars as a hobby,
Speaker:bryant: the more it loses its shine.
Speaker:bryant: And it's just I wish I could just take public transit to work,
Speaker:bryant: you know, and not have to have a car, honestly, or at least have cars as a hobby
Speaker:bryant: and not as a necessity, you know?
Speaker:zach: Yeah, exactly. We're very pro-cars as a hobby, not as the main form of transportation
Speaker:zach: for all people in the entire world.
Speaker:Evan: So, trains and comrades?
Speaker:bryant: Yeah, almost. I mean, we've done a few episodes about trains and public transit in general.
Speaker:brandon: I'm down to eight cars now. How can you expect to extend that to the population?
Speaker:Evan: Well, I guess speaking of cars, I'm curious what you would say about the,
Speaker:Evan: not necessarily it's like the truck in this movie but the the iconic
Speaker:Evan: car that's used in smoky and the bandit which i heard that they received four
Speaker:Evan: of them to use and then at the end of the there's only four pontiacs and only
Speaker:Evan: one of them could run at the end of it and then the what's the other what's
Speaker:Evan: the one the sheriff drives i'm blanking now on the car he has a tempest.
Speaker:brandon: I think that was also a pontiac.
Speaker:Connor: It was a pontiac i don't know which model maybe like a tempest or something.
Speaker:Evan: Yeah i tried.
Speaker:brandon: To look into it because i was curious about like okay so a sticking point for
Speaker:brandon: for this movie i haven't i've gotten much more uh knowledgeable on cars since
Speaker:brandon: the last time i actually re-watched this so i was like getting really hung up
Speaker:brandon: on the fact that like his his trans am looks cool and fast,
Speaker:brandon: police like the handful of police cars that i'm familiar with from the era they
Speaker:brandon: tended to be exempt from a lot of the like fuel economy restrictions 70s police
Speaker:brandon: cars could move and that uh trans am was a 400 cubic inch engine producing almost 200 literally.
Speaker:Connor: I was gonna make a note of my notes as well yeah yep same great minds think
Speaker:Connor: of like we were all like god damn this thing's like got the power of a fucking
Speaker:Connor: uh frs you know what i mean yeah i i went ahead and looked it.
Speaker:zach: Up because i could see on the uh the ram air
Speaker:zach: intake it says 6.6 liter on there so i went ahead and looked up what 6.6 liters
Speaker:zach: in cubic inches is and yeah that's just over 400 cubic inches and the the post
Speaker:zach: i read said that it made about 180 horsepower which is yeah less than half of its cubic inches they.
Speaker:brandon: Made a high output version that was i think.
Speaker:zach: Closer to.
Speaker:Evan: 200 yep so So I'm assuming this is good if you want a fast car from a person
Speaker:Evan: who knows nothing about cars.
Speaker:bryant: This is, I think, the beginning of what they called the malaise era,
Speaker:bryant: where you had all the emissions laws coming into effect that sort of choked.
Speaker:brandon: I would say this is a few years into that.
Speaker:Connor: Yeah, it is.
Speaker:bryant: So you had all these emissions controls that really choked the power of all these engines.
Speaker:bryant: uh but they hadn't developed like um you know fuel injection or turbo charging
Speaker:bryant: or any of the stuff that gave you actually decent power like starting in the
Speaker:bryant: 80s so uh it was a it was a great.
Speaker:Connor: Time all of that all of that was a consequence of
Speaker:Connor: the emission standard so like it created this
Speaker:Connor: period where like the cars got real slow real fast and then eventually car makers
Speaker:Connor: started getting clever with turbos and fuel injection and so the technology
Speaker:Connor: was a necessity because of the emissions controls so that's why we have the
Speaker:Connor: cars we have today making crazy horsepower,
Speaker:Connor: and all that it comes from this but at that time yeah these cars were slow they
Speaker:Connor: were slow as shit the trans am in this movie looks very cool but i was like
Speaker:Connor: man i'm almost surprised he could spin the tires like that i was like that thing
Speaker:Connor: would yeah live rear axles and no.
Speaker:brandon: Weight really helped.
Speaker:bryant: That out a lot yeah they probably put a little bleach on the wheels there.
Speaker:brandon: I am very familiar with this because my cutlass has the 403 olds so only three
Speaker:brandon: cubic inches bigger roughly the same horsepower a bit more torque but yeah i
Speaker:brandon: can spend my tires all day long i.
Speaker:bryant: Mean i did yeah i.
Speaker:brandon: Can't go very fast but i can break the trans am did have.
Speaker:bryant: Uh 320 foot pounds of torque which is pretty good but not for us yeah it was.
Speaker:brandon: The other.
Speaker:Evan: One was a pontiac lamans yeah that was the the ones the other one oh.
Speaker:brandon: I i looked up what um i i
Speaker:brandon: couldn't find much about pontiac police cars because
Speaker:brandon: i i know that dodge were more common and you would see
Speaker:brandon: like some chevy so there were a lot like a lot of the the cop cars in this were
Speaker:brandon: pontiacs and i couldn't find any broad information about like pontiac police
Speaker:brandon: cars and what kind of like performance packages they had but by this era they
Speaker:brandon: were very concretely of the opinion that they needed a lot of power because
Speaker:brandon: what if they They had to catch the bad guys.
Speaker:brandon: We have to put everyone in traffic's life at risk because that guy was speeding.
Speaker:Evan: They literally used this movie as like their evidence.
Speaker:zach: Yeah. I wonder if that has to do with like some sort of sponsorship deal that they got with Pontiac.
Speaker:zach: Like, I mean, obviously the hero car is the Pontiac.
Speaker:Connor: It has to be.
Speaker:zach: And then all of the cop cars are Pontiacs in the movie. I'm assuming Pontiac
Speaker:zach: had something to do with the movie and funding the cars.
Speaker:brandon: I wondered about that too.
Speaker:Connor: Same with Coors. i was noticing.
Speaker:brandon: No no i know the backstory for that and you guys be glad that you're on here
Speaker:brandon: because like my dad was a fucking redneck old like truck driver and i actually
Speaker:brandon: understand the cultural reference that this is that's lost to the ages yeah.
Speaker:Connor: Oh let's hear it uh.
Speaker:brandon: It's not as dramatic as i just made it sound but um in the 70s cores was actually
Speaker:brandon: considered good beer not every city had 18 breweries where you could get like
Speaker:brandon: an ipa that tasted like dog piss um Um,
Speaker:brandon: there was, there was a handful of breweries and yeah,
Speaker:brandon: Coors was considered actually good beer,
Speaker:brandon: but you true to form could not get it outside of like Colorado and certain other States. So,
Speaker:brandon: It was a real thing that truck drivers would like bring cases of Coors like
Speaker:brandon: home with them when they were traveling.
Speaker:brandon: This is I will say, like, I don't know this like hard and fast.
Speaker:brandon: This is what my dad told me, because I remember one of the first times I watched it with him.
Speaker:brandon: I was like, why the why didn't they not just go to the store and find a bunch of cases of Coors beer?
Speaker:brandon: And he was like, oh, because like back back then you couldn't get it.
Speaker:brandon: It was really good. But like nobody had it. You had to like know somebody who could bring it to you.
Speaker:brandon: So this was not sponsorship from Coors. is this was like cores was a bit of
Speaker:brandon: a cultural phenomenon in this way like you couldn't get it but it's like in and out.
Speaker:bryant: Burger or something.
Speaker:brandon: Good.
Speaker:Evan: Comparison the idea that they actually came up with for the director need i'm
Speaker:Evan: apparently on the set for the movie gator which i guess was burt reynolds movie
Speaker:Evan: before this one someone had also.
Speaker:brandon: With jerry reed.
Speaker:Evan: Yes also fucking that's why jerry ends up in in this
Speaker:Evan: one so apparently someone had brought some cores to
Speaker:Evan: like the to the the director or
Speaker:Evan: something and they kept putting i think actually bert reynolds directed gator so
Speaker:Evan: they're putting it into his refrigerator to give to him because it wasn't
Speaker:Evan: available where they're filming it in georgia and the cleaning person
Speaker:Evan: kept stealing the beer from the refrigerator oh yeah and so they're like you
Speaker:Evan: gotta stop doing that and then it gave them like the idea of like oh what if
Speaker:Evan: we had a movie about someone who like needs to bring a bunch of cores because
Speaker:Evan: they just want to drink cores beer and it only was available in 11 states in
Speaker:Evan: 1975 or whatever 76 so couldn't get it very get any places yeah.
Speaker:bryant: It's uh or i don't know if it still is but it back then it was unpasteurized
Speaker:bryant: and had no preservatives so they would.
Speaker:Evan: Only ship.
Speaker:bryant: It in refrigerated cars i think um,
Speaker:bryant: Yeah, I'm not sure how it how it works today, if they've changed the recipe
Speaker:bryant: or what. I'm sure they'd tell you no.
Speaker:bryant: But yeah, I might have mentioned this when we were planning this,
Speaker:bryant: but I used to live in Golden, Colorado, near the brewery where they make all the cores.
Speaker:bryant: And it's an interesting tour. If you're ever in there, you can,
Speaker:bryant: I think it's like a self guided like audio tour now, but used to be like they'd
Speaker:bryant: have someone show you around.
Speaker:bryant: And you know, you get some free samples at the end. um but
Speaker:bryant: i don't buy cores anymore i wouldn't
Speaker:bryant: pay them money um after what i've
Speaker:bryant: learned about the people that own the company um well
Speaker:bryant: it's crazy yeah uh if you want to know more about that there's a really good
Speaker:bryant: episode of the dollop about it um yeah a bunch of bunch of fascists basically
Speaker:bryant: i think two of the chorus family were founding members of the john birch society
Speaker:bryant: and the heritage society or heritage foundation nice i mean super cool yeah they.
Speaker:Evan: Used to uh they used to in like the the 1960s and 50s they would actually give
Speaker:Evan: new employees a lie detector test to make sure they weren't communists gay or like did drugs.
Speaker:bryant: Yeah it's.
Speaker:Evan: It's insane like the whole story i haven't i haven't listened to that podcast
Speaker:Evan: episode but i've read a couple articles and it's insane.
Speaker:bryant: They also had had just like uh.
Speaker:brandon: That's that's funny to me as someone who in 2024 has
Speaker:brandon: had to pass a drug test for their job and is also not allowed
Speaker:brandon: to be in the union if i'm in a communist party wait really sort
Speaker:brandon: of that's funny there's there's a clause in our
Speaker:brandon: union contract that says we're not allowed to be a member of any
Speaker:brandon: like revolutionary or like uh it's it's it's a holdover from decades ago but
Speaker:brandon: like yeah it's a suppose somebody else from uh another leftist i know that is
Speaker:brandon: in another um you uh you uh united steel workers branch told me that yeah tech
Speaker:brandon: like technically i can't join psl So good luck.
Speaker:bryant: Yeah.
Speaker:zach: Before we get too far away from it, I just wanted to,
Speaker:zach: create a frame of reference for any non-car people
Speaker:zach: who might have no idea what it means to have 200 horsepower out of a 400 cubic
Speaker:zach: inch engine um the new the new dr the new dr corolla is a 1.6 liter three-cylinder
Speaker:zach: turbo and makes 300 horsepower so less than half of the cylinders and
Speaker:zach: a hundred more horsepower out of a a car or an engine that's like yeah a third
Speaker:zach: of the displacement or less really because 6.6 liters i mean.
Speaker:brandon: Yeah less than a third that's.
Speaker:zach: A quarter or less and.
Speaker:brandon: Oh yeah jesus i did my math there yeah.
Speaker:Connor: Um technology's gotten a lot
Speaker:Connor: better um and that era people there's a
Speaker:Connor: there's a certain nostalgia aspect where people remember their 70s cars as you
Speaker:Connor: talk to your your dad or grandpa oh i had this 70s this and that and you're
Speaker:Connor: like yo that thing was slower than a fucking 90s camry and it's not even close
Speaker:Connor: like it's like nah those cars were fucking slow man they remember.
Speaker:brandon: It was cool.
Speaker:Connor: But like they were not fast.
Speaker:brandon: The other weird like uh point of reference though is that pontiac the pontiac
Speaker:brandon: 400 was was pretty prolific that was
Speaker:brandon: Pontiac's performance motor shy of the 455 a 400 and like 1970 was probably
Speaker:brandon: making 350 horsepower that's how badly it was gutted it was a little bit more
Speaker:brandon: than half the horsepower five
Speaker:brandon: years later because they were actually like being controlled a bit and.
Speaker:bryant: And I'll say also my my 2017 electric car has more power and accelerates quicker
Speaker:bryant: than the Pontiac but uh I I wrote down in my notes it's, you know, say what you will about,
Speaker:bryant: Burt Reynolds and Salafield, but I think the Pontiac is the sexiest character in this movie.
Speaker:bryant: I mean, even if it is kind of slow, it is a really nice looking car.
Speaker:bryant: Like, I like the gold accents and the wheels, like the sort of
Speaker:bryant: I don't know what you call that, like diamond honeycomb.
Speaker:brandon: Honeycomb.
Speaker:bryant: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker:brandon: Those are sick wheels. This is a really cool car. If I have one objection,
Speaker:brandon: and I had to dig in a little bit to find this, so I don't know if it's 100% accurate.
Speaker:brandon: Supposedly, they wanted the brand new Pontiac, like 1977 would have been the newest thing.
Speaker:brandon: But it wasn't even fully released for production yet.
Speaker:brandon: So, what they did was they took four 1976s and put the 77 grill and headlight assemblies in.
Speaker:Evan: That's true.
Speaker:brandon: True it's true 76 front end looks so much fucking better they downgraded the
Speaker:brandon: look look of the car in my opinion i i prefer round to square headlights but
Speaker:brandon: um i i'm not super intense about that but the fact that they did go through
Speaker:brandon: that effort to to supposedly i.
Speaker:Connor: Heard that too and i i find that very yeah i think this is oh.
Speaker:brandon: Yeah at.
Speaker:Connor: That time like that's definitely i.
Speaker:zach: Think this is another point in the column of pontiac sponsoring this film in
Speaker:zach: that you know they They wanted their newest vehicle to be on display in the movie.
Speaker:zach: And it didn't matter that, you know, it was a little bit prohibitive and like
Speaker:zach: you said, made it look worse.
Speaker:zach: They just wanted the newest shit to be on screen.
Speaker:Connor: Which, by the way, it did work. It was.
Speaker:zach: Oh, yeah, that is.
Speaker:Connor: Yeah, the the the the Trans Am started to like outsell the Camaro,
Speaker:Connor: which is its counterpart car because they're very, very similar cars.
Speaker:brandon: It's they're both the same body style. they just have quite kind of different grills basically.
Speaker:Connor: Yeah so yeah uh i think that i read that the sales nearly doubled of the trans
Speaker:Connor: 700 so like oh damn jesus christ okay i i read nearly doubled in an article
Speaker:Connor: apparently that's uh an understatement yeah.
Speaker:Evan: And apparently the pontiac president was going to give burt reynolds like uh
Speaker:Evan: basically like a pontiac car like a for life and then he left the company and
Speaker:Evan: they wouldn't give it to him and so he had to.
Speaker:Connor: Buy it himself oh it's awesome i didn't know that but i i did hear that the
Speaker:Connor: offer was they were going to give him a new trans am every year that there was
Speaker:Connor: a trans am because of how we boost their sales to renege on that is hysterical
Speaker:Connor: that's fucking awesome okay like burt.
Speaker:brandon: Reynolds had a lot of cultural uh weight and like when this came out so like
Speaker:brandon: yeah they really stiffed him because like what what's what the cost of like
Speaker:brandon: 30 cars over the course of like 30 years or something He earned every fucking
Speaker:brandon: penny of that That's the amount of extra cars They sold in the first month Or
Speaker:brandon: the first week this movie came.
Speaker:Connor: Out And.
Speaker:zach: I know for a fact that Even to this day a 1977 Pontiac Trans Am Firebird With
Speaker:zach: the snowflake wheels And the bird on the hood Is like,
Speaker:zach: an unreachable amount of money to this day like a hundred thousand.
Speaker:brandon: Plus i feel like i see them but it's hard to tell when something's a clone or.
Speaker:Connor: Somebody through the graphic yeah people people put the graphics on there which
Speaker:Connor: is cool and fine and whatever i mean they all had the show yeah i don't.
Speaker:Evan: So this is just you're mentioning like how big of a
Speaker:Evan: star was burt reynolds got paid the budget for this movie was three point four
Speaker:Evan: four point three million and he got paid one million so it was a quarter of
Speaker:Evan: the budget was burt reynolds god damn and then sally field didn't get paid very
Speaker:Evan: much it was like very early in her career actually it was burt reynolds idea
Speaker:Evan: to have her in the movie and then of course he wanted to have jerry reed in the movie and he,
Speaker:Evan: then they also reached out to jackie gleason and he's like he read the script
Speaker:Evan: he's like sure i'll do this it's stupid but fine whatever everyone just was
Speaker:Evan: like i'll do it and then he just improvised everything but yeah it's uh it's
Speaker:Evan: kind of amazing it got made in some sense but here we are um.
Speaker:brandon: I mean from what i'm hearing it kind of sounds like if gator had not been what
Speaker:brandon: it was this movie would not have been made yeah.
Speaker:Evan: I've never seen that i.
Speaker:brandon: I oh dude oh fuck god i fucking love that movie so much um i just i want to
Speaker:brandon: comment like i i had never thought of it again i'm i'm what i'm i watched this
Speaker:brandon: movie almost for the first time this week because uh i got to watch it through
Speaker:brandon: the leftist lens and that was the first time i realized that jackie gleason's first act on
Speaker:brandon: screen in this movie is to start physically like violently attacking.
Speaker:zach: Yeah.
Speaker:brandon: And I, it's just like the four, those dudes stealing parts off the car and he
Speaker:brandon: just immediately starts wailing.
Speaker:Connor: Well, and I found it, you know, interesting. I actually did make a note of it.
Speaker:Connor: The first scene in which we see, um,
Speaker:Connor: sheriff buford t justice the first scene
Speaker:Connor: he appears in they play like this silly over
Speaker:Connor: the top bad guy music to like let you
Speaker:Connor: know this is the antagonist and he gets out
Speaker:Connor: of his car and he's acting like a cop on a power trip and it was just like right
Speaker:Connor: from the beginning they're like this is the bad guy and he's an idiot um and
Speaker:Connor: so then yeah and then the first thing he does is assault someone and then he
Speaker:Connor: like tells them all like okay well i gotta go i gotta go leave but you put your hands
Speaker:Connor: on this car and don't you fucking leave you can't go to the bathroom you can't
Speaker:Connor: do it just till another cop comes and then just leaves them like yeah i i.
Speaker:zach: Made a note of it in my notes but the way that cops are portrayed in this movie
Speaker:zach: is fucking awesome they are all so incompetent and just incapable of doing anything
Speaker:zach: right i love it i love every second of the police on screen in this movie it's
Speaker:zach: so fucking beautiful okay.
Speaker:brandon: So also in the in the context of movie you know the bandit is is a cultural
Speaker:brandon: phenomenon somehow yeah.
Speaker:zach: They don't really go over that they just kind of expect you to understand that
Speaker:zach: the bandit is this character that you're supposed to like know already i guess
Speaker:zach: i it felt like there was a prequel that i missed no.
Speaker:brandon: I i got the impression that like they're trying to establish that he is such
Speaker:brandon: like a folk hero that just every mom and pop on the side of the road knows who
Speaker:brandon: the bandit is in this world like in the world of.
Speaker:Connor: Yeah but.
Speaker:brandon: Like what i appreciate so much is that okay you
Speaker:brandon: accept that take the bandit is a folk hero in the context of this movie every
Speaker:brandon: human being alive in this movie is is is doing their best to mislead the police
Speaker:brandon: lie to them just block them at dude when when the two dudes take the funeral.
Speaker:Connor: Process that's.
Speaker:brandon: One of the just to keep the cops from catching the bandit because they're like
Speaker:brandon: no man fuck the police bandit you got this shit yeah yeah.
Speaker:Connor: I feel like so this might be a good time to do a
Speaker:Connor: quick like bare bones like of the plot and
Speaker:Connor: what's going on and why these people are doing this to some extent like um i
Speaker:Connor: don't know who should do that if uh i don't know how we usually do this uh evan
Speaker:Connor: but if we want to like kind of outline what the overall story is why they're
Speaker:Connor: on this drive yeah yeah uh And then like how it is essentially this is like a folk hero story.
Speaker:Evan: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker:Connor: Like what Brandon was saying.
Speaker:Evan: And it's funny as you're saying that, like, because he's a folk hero on like
Speaker:Evan: a CB radio. And I'm thinking like this would be, you know, now it'd be like on Reddit or something.
Speaker:bryant: Here it's like, you know.
Speaker:Evan: CB radio.
Speaker:Connor: Oh, that's so sad.
Speaker:Evan: But yeah. But yeah. So yeah, to your point, like, so basically,
Speaker:Evan: we just all of a sudden we learn that.
Speaker:Evan: Well, I guess they very briefly tell you that there's like this big thing about
Speaker:Evan: bootlegging Coors beer from Tarkana's Texaco,
Speaker:Evan: texarkana texarkana texas to atlanta or wherever
Speaker:Evan: you know because it's illegal and then they just introduce you
Speaker:Evan: to burt reynolds just chilling on a hammock just
Speaker:Evan: being like yeah what do you want and these two guys come over and you know the
Speaker:Evan: father and the son and it's just the classic suits they're wearing and apparently
Speaker:Evan: actually i'll just add is that the his laugh on the hammock was apparently like
Speaker:Evan: him actually having never seen their outfits before and it was like a true laugh,
Speaker:Evan: i just think that's perfect he's like that's the most honest laugh i've ever
Speaker:Evan: given in a movie but that's fucking.
Speaker:brandon: Hysterical i can hear that laugh.
Speaker:Evan: That was.
Speaker:brandon: A that was a very earnest laugh like.
Speaker:Evan: So they basically say they're going to give him eighty thousand dollars which
Speaker:Evan: is the equivalent of almost four hundred thousand dollars now to bring back
Speaker:Evan: 400 cases of cores in 48 hours which which is 900 miles. 28 hours?
Speaker:zach: 28 hours.
Speaker:brandon: 28, yeah.
Speaker:Evan: Oh, 28 hours. Yeah, you're right. 28 hours. And he has, it's 900 miles each way. So 1,800 miles.
Speaker:brandon: It works out to be something of like a maintained average speed of like 60 miles
Speaker:brandon: an hour. It's actually not. I did the math.
Speaker:zach: That's like my first note. I was like, how fast does he have to go? It's 64 miles an hour.
Speaker:zach: Like just over 64 miles an hour. It's really not that fast average.
Speaker:Evan: But they do a lot of up putzing around and like not driving for a lot of yeah apparently.
Speaker:brandon: And sally.
Speaker:zach: Field had enough time to get it on in one scene so they're really not.
Speaker:Connor: In that.
Speaker:zach: Much of a hurry it seems like yeah.
Speaker:Connor: They're just that good they're they're they're folk heroes they are just so
Speaker:Connor: far above and beyond that they can they can do it they can stop for meals they
Speaker:Connor: got time to sleep they can do it all 400.
Speaker:Evan: Horsepower power for uh.
Speaker:Connor: No
Speaker:brandon: No no 200 cubic inches.
Speaker:zach: Yeah yeah right okay.
Speaker:brandon: Well okay so since we're since we're starting off with that i think another
Speaker:brandon: worthwhile note is that uh you really like it is like a very working class versus
Speaker:brandon: the law movie the closest you get to anyone like wealthy or powerful in this
Speaker:brandon: movie is big and little enos,
Speaker:brandon: And holy fuck, are they the butt of the joke? They're the driving force in that
Speaker:brandon: they're the ones that come up to the bandit and say, we got this bet for you.
Speaker:brandon: But their whole thing is to fuck everyone over because they keep making this
Speaker:brandon: bet with people just to get them in trouble and fuck with them.
Speaker:brandon: And that's what they're doing here.
Speaker:brandon: And from that point on, they are the butt of the joke.
Speaker:brandon: This is such a working class fucking movie. this is about the worker like even
Speaker:brandon: across like racial lines for the 70s like everyone was working together because
Speaker:brandon: fuck the police and fuck these rich assholes.
Speaker:Connor: Yeah it was um i mean so like
Speaker:Connor: basically the whole point of the movie is finally this bet
Speaker:Connor: that they've been making to lots of truckers they've all gotten
Speaker:Connor: either arrested or or crashed out or whatever it
Speaker:Connor: was they finally offer this this deal to
Speaker:Connor: the bandit the big local legend right
Speaker:Connor: um and so that's pretty much what the movie is is
Speaker:Connor: they're doing this run in this time frame and that
Speaker:Connor: is the whole story that's going on here but one of
Speaker:Connor: the things that i noticed like the opening scene right after
Speaker:Connor: the credits which i also noted had like another unique
Speaker:Connor: song made just for the movie which i
Speaker:Connor: was like oh that's cool um and i had never noticed it
Speaker:Connor: before but so the first scene is actually another truck
Speaker:Connor: driver getting busted like that is our opening is like cops
Speaker:Connor: show up and confront this other truck driver and they're like
Speaker:Connor: all right let's see what's in the back sure enough it's
Speaker:Connor: the Coors beer and he's like well hey listen officer I was put up to this by
Speaker:Connor: these by these two rich guys offering me a bunch of money to do it and they
Speaker:Connor: and the cops go don't you when are you guys gonna learn those you know uh people
Speaker:Connor: offer the same deal to every trucker you know worth their salt or whatever and
Speaker:Connor: i found that really funny because i was like it.
Speaker:brandon: Really does paint the picture that the south is only about five or six hundred people.
Speaker:Connor: Which is all each other well yeah
Speaker:Connor: acting as if they all knew but the other thing that i found funny was
Speaker:Connor: like so wait you know who's doing this you know
Speaker:Connor: who's driving this and they are very much not in jail and i was like it really
Speaker:Connor: does set up that like the truckers are the ones facing the consequences but
Speaker:Connor: like these rich assholes are not and like it like it literally cuts from this
Speaker:Connor: scene of the of them telling him that they offer this to every truck driver,
Speaker:Connor: cuts to the next scene with showing the back of their cadillac convertible as
Speaker:Connor: they drive around with big you know they're just goofy motherfuckers and it's
Speaker:Connor: and it's just so clear that like they're setting up this idea that like yeah
Speaker:Connor: these rich assholes get to do this and there are no consequences for them everyone
Speaker:Connor: else faces consequences the.
Speaker:Evan: Cops get to confiscate all the beer so they don't want to arrest them right
Speaker:Evan: they want to keep keep the beer.
Speaker:Connor: Flowing but.
Speaker:Evan: Yeah like that's so yeah so as As you said, that's basically the rest of the
Speaker:Evan: movie is first, you know, you kind of Burt Reynolds has to, or the bandit has
Speaker:Evan: to get his partner, Jerry Reed, and they, you know, embark on their mission.
Speaker:Evan: And they're chased the entire time by Sheriff Buford T. Justice,
Speaker:Evan: played hilariously by Jackie Gleason.
Speaker:Evan: And then you have Sally Field who, within what, the first, I don't know,
Speaker:Evan: I don't know, they've already gotten the beer at this point,
Speaker:Evan: right? When they pick her up, they're on the way back.
Speaker:Connor: Yeah, so actually the first, so within the first 20 minutes,
Speaker:Connor: the Enos guys offer the deal to the bandit. He convinces his friend and fellow
Speaker:Connor: truck driver, the snowman, to join him on this.
Speaker:Connor: And basically he says, look, I'm going to drive the blocker car.
Speaker:Connor: So I'm going to drive out ahead of you and get the attention of the police so
Speaker:Connor: that they don't stop you in the truck behind. Okay.
Speaker:Connor: And so then his friend agrees, which I got to do a side tangent.
Speaker:Connor: I also found it very weird and kind of goofy that like the band,
Speaker:Connor: it's like, all right, well, if I'm going to take this deal from y'all,
Speaker:Connor: I'm going to need money for a car.
Speaker:Connor: And they just hand him the money for her car. And they're counting it out.
Speaker:Connor: And he's like, I need a speedy car.
Speaker:Connor: And they give him more money and goes speedier than that. And they give him
Speaker:Connor: more money, which is just comedy gold.
Speaker:Connor: But also I was like, they're just handing you the money to do this.
Speaker:Connor: Like, yeah, great. I'd like to get a Lamborghini.
Speaker:brandon: In my head the whole time i'm just like dude fuck the eighty thousand dollars
Speaker:brandon: you have to work for that they're giving you like probably like five or ten
Speaker:brandon: grand up front dude take the money and run like.
Speaker:bryant: They're paying what like ten dollars per beer at this point or something like that in.
Speaker:Connor: I mean a crazy amount it's just this is rich guys with nothing better to do
Speaker:Connor: and they like i think they do a good job setting up that like they don't actually
Speaker:Connor: give a shit about the beer they just want to fuck with people and this is just.
Speaker:brandon: They're like why do you want the beer and they're like oh we're having a party it's.
Speaker:bryant: And it's kind of like uh that movie rat race uh in that regard it's just rich
Speaker:bryant: people fucking with everyday people as like a for fun.
Speaker:brandon: Yeah yeah.
Speaker:zach: Just as entertainment and to put the.
Speaker:brandon: I mean it's established that no one has accomplished this yet so it is a hundred
Speaker:brandon: percent they are just keep fucking people over yeah.
Speaker:Evan: They also allude that burt ranalds his friend cletus or the snowman he had you
Speaker:Evan: know he had gone to prison it didn't i I don't think they say why,
Speaker:Evan: because of antics that he had pulled maybe some other kind of similar job.
Speaker:Evan: And his wife's like, no, you don't do this. And he's like, well,
Speaker:Evan: $40,000, presumably if they're going to split it, is a life-changing amount of money.
Speaker:Evan: So they're just, again, fucking with these people for money that will change
Speaker:Evan: their lives, but means nothing to them.
Speaker:Connor: Yeah, they carry this around in their pocket.
Speaker:Evan: Yeah, he just got stacks of bills.
Speaker:Connor: I did find one other thing I just wanted to make note specifically when they
Speaker:Connor: first approached the bandit with this offer and he lets out that very you know,
Speaker:Connor: awesome laugh as soon as he sees them but i love
Speaker:Connor: what he did say after that because i actually i put it in my
Speaker:Connor: notes i was like this is such a good fucking line his first instinct
Speaker:Connor: is to laugh in their faces and then insult them by
Speaker:Connor: saying oh i love your suits it must be a bitch getting a size 68 extra fat and
Speaker:Connor: a 12 dwarf i was like god damn if that is not a working class hero i don't know
Speaker:Connor: what is just that alone if.
Speaker:Evan: Paul williams said that like made his career actually like being in this even
Speaker:Evan: though he was the butt of the joke he like he like he kind of just loves it and got lots of.
Speaker:Connor: Work because.
Speaker:Evan: Of it so fuck it yeah there there's just i mean
Speaker:Evan: just generally speaking as you said that there's tons and tons and tons of just
Speaker:Evan: really good jokes and it kind of blows my mind that many of them were just ad-libbed
Speaker:Evan: when they're in the moment like they're just it's really really funny and lots
Speaker:Evan: of like you know kind of like double entendres and you know hidden meaning where
Speaker:Evan: they you know say one word when they meet another it's just.
Speaker:Connor: Like everything over the cb radios was in you oh yeah everything there in double
Speaker:Connor: entendres the whole bit like i loved every interaction on the cb radios um but
Speaker:Connor: yeah actually i remember um because i i kind of did a number of side tangents
Speaker:Connor: there but i was getting to the point where i was trying to set up the idea
Speaker:Connor: that within the first 20 minutes of the movie they
Speaker:Connor: did all of this shit got this all together and they
Speaker:Connor: had already gotten to texas to pick up the beer within
Speaker:Connor: 20 minutes and then like a couple minutes later so
Speaker:Connor: like basically they had no problems going out none whatsoever there was one
Speaker:Connor: cop that the bandit got the attention of and lost very easily um and then also
Speaker:Connor: notably breaks the fourth wall as he's like he like looks at the camera and
Speaker:Connor: just like kind of gives a little smile and then like takes it takes off i.
Speaker:brandon: Really appreciated that because at no other point in the movie does anything like that happen.
Speaker:Connor: No the only fourth one the.
Speaker:Evan: Funny thing that burt reynolds said he's like oh like are you sure you want
Speaker:Evan: me to do that and he says to need him the director he's like oh you know that's
Speaker:Evan: breaking the fourth wall and apparently i'll need him with like completely deadpan goes what's that.
Speaker:Connor: That's so awesome was this first.
Speaker:bryant: His first uh time time directing a movie because he was a stuntman mostly right um.
Speaker:brandon: Yeah that makes sense i didn't.
Speaker:bryant: Realize i think it was.
Speaker:Evan: His yeah i think so.
Speaker:bryant: He actually did the stunt of uh jumping the car over the bridge i think yep yeah.
Speaker:Connor: Oh that's very cool that is cool that's a cool director right there oh no don't
Speaker:Connor: worry i got the i got the car jump yeah that's all me actually so.
Speaker:Evan: He was the.
Speaker:Connor: Second director.
Speaker:Evan: On gator i guess that's how he and
Speaker:Evan: burt reynolds became friends but that's not like not the main director but yeah
Speaker:Evan: so this is his first uh his first shot apparently he like didn't really know
Speaker:Evan: like i couldn't find much about the technical but apparently it was just kind
Speaker:Evan: of like makeshift kind of nonsense on the set which makes sense given the given
Speaker:Evan: it but yeah the all the lines are really good i had a bunch of them written down i can't find so.
Speaker:bryant: One of my favorite is uh you ought to quit smoking it's bad for your health
Speaker:bryant: but I enjoy it so much. Yeah.
Speaker:zach: And then she like visibly as she's smoking.
Speaker:brandon: Like the first, I just started. My favorite joke was probably when,
Speaker:brandon: when Sally Fields looks over at the speedo and says, are we really going 110,
Speaker:brandon: but doesn't seem to understand that that's kilometers.
Speaker:bryant: Was it? Yeah.
Speaker:brandon: Like I paused it and rewound because I was like, wait a second.
Speaker:brandon: What? And when you look at it, yeah, they're going 110 kilometers.
Speaker:bryant: Like 65 miles an hour.
Speaker:Connor: They're going slow.
Speaker:brandon: Well they only.
Speaker:Evan: Have to go 64 so that they're good yeah.
Speaker:brandon: Okay so the the if if anything that i will give them credit for the challenge
Speaker:brandon: of this is sure an average maintained speed of around 65 for 28 hours but how
Speaker:brandon: the fuck long does it take to go pick up his buddy snowman to go buy a car that's
Speaker:brandon: like an entire afternoon right there and like i don't know when they start the.
Speaker:Connor: Clock exactly but i i presume they buy the car before the clock starts i hope.
Speaker:brandon: Well i was i I was assuming that the clock started at the truck rodeo.
Speaker:Evan: Yeah.
Speaker:Connor: Like, I don't, I don't think that's possible. Like, I literally actually do
Speaker:Connor: not think that even if he got that shit altogether in two hours,
Speaker:Connor: they were running an hour ahead of schedule when they hit Texarkana.
Speaker:Connor: Or I think, I think after they loaded the beer, they were a half an hour ahead
Speaker:Connor: of schedule, but they were ahead of schedule when they hit Texarkana.
Speaker:bryant: Yeah. Cause the store hadn't opened yet. They, they broke in and stole the beer.
Speaker:Connor: They broke into the.
Speaker:brandon: Stole the beer.
Speaker:Connor: And left a note.
Speaker:zach: Just like.
Speaker:Connor: Send the bill to.
Speaker:zach: Another another big line in the movie is that they did not leave the note jerry
Speaker:zach: reed's character is writing the note can't figure out how to spell the guy's
Speaker:zach: name it just goes oh shit i gotta go and throws the notepad and just leaves i.
Speaker:Evan: Just like that he he like gets in the forklift and he just kind of dipping around
Speaker:Evan: and And just crushes a bunch of the.
Speaker:zach: Beer. Another one of my favorite lines. When Jerry Reed's character says.
Speaker:zach: You can't drive a forklift. And he says I can drive any forking thing around.
Speaker:bryant: Just like.
Speaker:Evan: So many of those great one liners.
Speaker:zach: In this movie.
Speaker:brandon: That is 100% a joke I would make.
Speaker:zach: That felt like a Brandon joke.
Speaker:zach: for sure well.
Speaker:Evan: This i assume this ruby because at the time there was no pg-13 it was just a
Speaker:Evan: pg movie you know just a you know do that or are and it's not i mean i guess
Speaker:Evan: you could say it's a kid's movie you could watch this for you know as a kid
Speaker:Evan: and probably not get most of the jokes right because they've kind of hidden
Speaker:Evan: them in there with yeah you know the the innuendo and all that i'm.
Speaker:Connor: I'm always appreciative of like kids movies in general because i think those are some of the
Speaker:Connor: best writers because they always disney movies do
Speaker:Connor: this a lot of them do this where it's like they hide the humor really well that
Speaker:Connor: kids will not get it you'll laugh at the same time but the parents and the kids
Speaker:Connor: laugh for different reasons um i always appreciate that kind of writing i think
Speaker:Connor: that's a real skill and this movie i think definitely has oh yeah as.
Speaker:zach: A complete side tangent i just watched uh shrek one
Speaker:zach: two and three the other day and it has
Speaker:zach: tons of that in it it's if you haven't
Speaker:zach: watched it in a while go back and watch the first trek movie it's it's full
Speaker:zach: of just adult humor that is masterfully written in to be subtle and and and
Speaker:zach: just above the head of the the target audience.
Speaker:Connor: It's so great i love that i i really i do love that shit.
Speaker:Evan: Yeah the first i haven't actually seen the third one i've watched the first
Speaker:Evan: one not that long ago maybe six months ago and i remember thinking damn this
Speaker:Evan: movie i mean i had seen it a long time and it is uh so many good jokes and so
Speaker:Evan: many things that are hidden in there that are yeah solid i.
Speaker:zach: Uh another complete side tangent but i got a lecture
Speaker:zach: from my very christian mother about shrek after seeing
Speaker:zach: it in the theater with her because there's one scene where
Speaker:zach: they roll a stone away from a tomb to uh allow princess fiona somewhere to sleep
Speaker:zach: and uh i was told that that was making a mockery of jesus tomb so yeah you have
Speaker:zach: that to look forward to i mean that's kind of funny if you go ahead and watch it now.
Speaker:Evan: Well i mean we i guess we i.
Speaker:brandon: Feel like that's giving strength i.
Speaker:Evan: Mean you talked about how the how like the cops in this movie are portrayed
Speaker:Evan: poorly i think we should talk about the i mean you also can say some of your
Speaker:Evan: favorite lines of like the Beaufort T justice.
Speaker:Evan: I mean, it's just his entire shtick is just,
Speaker:Evan: hysterical the entire time but i don't know about i don't have well i'll have
Speaker:Evan: to think about my favorite line but one of my favorite gags in the entire movie
Speaker:Evan: is his son once the car's roof gets pulled off and he has to hold his hat every
Speaker:Evan: time you're driving around it's just i i couldn't every time they showed that
Speaker:Evan: on screen i'm just like what the this is and he keeps doing it.
Speaker:bryant: When they're just walking around yeah he keeps.
Speaker:Evan: His hand on his.
Speaker:zach: Hat that was so funny.
Speaker:Evan: I think one of my favorite And how he says, some bitch.
Speaker:zach: Some bitch, yeah. That's great. No, my favorite Buford T.
Speaker:zach: Justice line is when he berates the cop who stops him for using foul language.
Speaker:zach: And then as he's driving away, you hear a truck horn blare and you just see
Speaker:zach: him mouth the words, and fuck off. And then he drives away.
Speaker:Connor: I think one of the other excellent points
Speaker:Connor: and sort of major plot point when they pick
Speaker:Connor: up uh sally field's character uh carrie
Speaker:Connor: she is a she's wearing a wedding dress and
Speaker:Connor: she's hitchhiking the bandit picks her up she's fleeing her wedding now she
Speaker:Connor: is to supposed to be marrying sheriff buford t justice's idiot son who is a
Speaker:Connor: fucking dimwit the whole movie um and like he's in the car with uh with the
Speaker:Connor: sheriff the whole time and And he is dumb as a box of rocks.
Speaker:Connor: But one of the things I love is as like they're driving in pursuit and,
Speaker:Connor: you know, Sheriff Justice over here is like ranting and raving in the car.
Speaker:Connor: And she's like, she disrespected my authority.
Speaker:Connor: And that's nothing but good old fashioned communism.
Speaker:zach: Oh, I love that.
Speaker:brandon: Too.
Speaker:Connor: And I actually one of our outros that we use for our show does have that line, actually.
Speaker:Connor: um but it's funny he's like ranting and
Speaker:Connor: raving about how how he feels personally slighted by what she did while his
Speaker:Connor: son who she left at the altar is in the car with him and he doesn't give a fuck
Speaker:Connor: about what he thinks like he's like yeah and he's like shut up so like his general vibe is too.
Speaker:brandon: Stupid to understand what has happened in his life he's.
Speaker:zach: A total hottie.
Speaker:Connor: He's a he's a classic himbo.
Speaker:zach: Hot and dumb as hell.
Speaker:Connor: Yeah so yeah it was just it was very funny that the cop is bitching and moaning
Speaker:Connor: about how this affects him instead of his son which was just absolutely priceless it.
Speaker:brandon: Really never even pays lip service to the fact that his son.
Speaker:Connor: Might have some feelings about this,
Speaker:Connor: is it beauty justice.
Speaker:Evan: Who has the line where he says like uh or maybe this does the son say one of
Speaker:Evan: them says like this is germane to the situation he says the germans have nothing yeah yeah.
Speaker:Connor: So um.
Speaker:zach: Black sheriff that they meet oh right right.
Speaker:Connor: Who who i want to add is the only competent
Speaker:Connor: police officer in this film and i found that i was like okay this feels like
Speaker:Connor: a very deliberate choice like 1977 not a great time in this country but like
Speaker:Connor: the one competent police officer that they portray in this film is the black
Speaker:Connor: sheriff and he like he like says like oh oh, this isn't germane to the situation.
Speaker:Connor: And this idiot has no idea what that even fucking means.
Speaker:Connor: It's, but like, he's, he thinks he's better than the black sheriff.
Speaker:brandon: Since we're having that conversation, you cannot skip the interaction between the black sheriff.
Speaker:zach: Yeah, that's exactly what I was about to say.
Speaker:brandon: He is horrified. Like you, this is where it was being probably a PG movie really
Speaker:brandon: shines because again, he can't use the hard R when he meets the black sheriff.
Speaker:brandon: So he's got to be like, oh, you know, you're not what I expected.
Speaker:brandon: And, you know, the subtext is really fucking obvious and that he's like,
Speaker:brandon: holy fuck, you're black.
Speaker:Connor: Well, as he's walking away, like so he actually meets him as because the black
Speaker:Connor: sheriff's like, yo, dude, you're like way out of your jurisdiction.
Speaker:Connor: Like, you should fucking leave. Like, please stop what you're doing.
Speaker:Connor: And Beaufort T. Justice, of course, doesn't.
Speaker:Connor: But the bandit leads them on a chase, and this is where they do the big bridge
Speaker:Connor: jump because they got cornered on this dirt road and they had nowhere to go.
Speaker:Connor: So they jumped the bridge. And when the police tried to do it, also notably,
Speaker:Connor: the car that the black sheriff was in was being driven by a white sheriff's
Speaker:Connor: deputy who was the mayor's son and notably not as competent.
Speaker:Connor: So like you have this like fairly competent black sheriff and he's like paired
Speaker:Connor: up with this, the mayor's son who's driving the car.
Speaker:brandon: Anybody in this movie made Buford Justice's son look smart. It was that dude.
Speaker:brandon: What if like there is no better word than yokel for that.
Speaker:zach: Just to drive Buford T. Justice's racism home after they have this interaction
Speaker:zach: with the black sheriff, he turns around and goes, what has the world come to?
Speaker:bryant: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker:Connor: Exactly. That's, that's the line. That's the important line there is it was
Speaker:Connor: like, and it's so clear what he's talking about, but like he first even sees
Speaker:Connor: him, which basically they crashed.
Speaker:Connor: They didn't make it over the bridge when they tried to jump it.
Speaker:Connor: They, so they crashed and the, um, black sheriff's getting out of the vehicle.
Speaker:Connor: And that's where Buford T justice is standing on the bridge.
Speaker:Connor: And, you know, it says something, he calls him boy first, which of course,
Speaker:Connor: very, very noticeable there.
Speaker:Connor: And he's like, where's, you know sheriff whatever and he's like I'm the sheriff
Speaker:Connor: and he almost like doesn't believe it at first and he says something like oh
Speaker:Connor: I thought you'd be taller or something and that's when he turns around and says
Speaker:Connor: what is the world coming to and you're like,
Speaker:Connor: god damn like you know buford t justice is literally his character is just a
Speaker:Connor: parody of a conservative asshole like that's his.
Speaker:brandon: Whole shtick it really does make you wonder what the director was doing because
Speaker:brandon: those were all such intentional decisions yeah to make the the one black sheriff
Speaker:brandon: the only competent person in law enforcement in this movie buford t justice is
Speaker:brandon: just like not only like they went as
Speaker:brandon: hard as they could to make him racist under a pg
Speaker:brandon: uh rating as they could and
Speaker:brandon: just so fucking dumb and yeah the
Speaker:brandon: one thing i was a little bit wasn't sure what how to
Speaker:brandon: feel about was yeah he shows up and calls that sheriff boy
Speaker:brandon: but he calls everyone in the movie boy he is just condescending to everyone
Speaker:brandon: he speaks to he is um and i'm wondering if they were doing that to make it seem
Speaker:brandon: less obvious that he was being racist towards the sheriff or if that's i don't
Speaker:brandon: i really don't know because i noticed that immediately but then personally he says that to everyone he.
Speaker:Connor: Does and that's it's because he's a condescending asshole but it's because like
Speaker:Connor: the next where he turns around and goes what is the world coming to it is so
Speaker:Connor: clear that he is just like unabashedly racist um so like it's reasonable to just kind
Speaker:Connor: of conclude that to some extent he was just being racist in that instance.
Speaker:Connor: But yes, he also does call everyone boy.
Speaker:bryant: Um, by the way, have you guys, have you guys seen, uh, the James Bond movie live and let die?
Speaker:brandon: Is that the one that has, uh, Jackie Gleason?
Speaker:bryant: Maybe he's in it, but there's a different, um, like Southern,
Speaker:bryant: uh, racist, uh, sheriff in that one, uh, sheriff JW pepper.
Speaker:bryant: Um, and there's also a car jumping across, uh, a river,
Speaker:bryant: um but it's uh i think it's set in louisiana and there's also people using cb
Speaker:bryant: radios to coordinate um catching james bond uh i wonder how like that was in
Speaker:bryant: 1973 i wonder how much that influenced this movie you know oh.
Speaker:brandon: You know in in my uh in my head i always i haven't seen that movie in so long
Speaker:brandon: i just assumed that that was the same character but i i actually thought that
Speaker:brandon: was jackie gleason that's yeah i don't remember the.
Speaker:bryant: Actor's name but it was a different guy he might have been an english guy just
Speaker:bryant: putting on an accent now i think about it.
Speaker:zach: I would just like.
Speaker:Evan: To say none of the things they said they never mentioned that i wonder if it's
Speaker:Evan: just it got like seeped into his influence or something yeah.
Speaker:Connor: Yeah there's some.
Speaker:brandon: Similarities james was that guy yeah no um it definitely i actually always assumed
Speaker:brandon: that the two were connected because the behavior is so like similar and just
Speaker:brandon: such buffoons either way good on this director for
Speaker:brandon: painting the police as racist assholes and like lifting up a working class hero
Speaker:brandon: to to beat them that rules yeah.
Speaker:Connor: This movie like obviously it wasn't like it's not perfect and progressive in
Speaker:Connor: every fashion but like there are elements of it that actually are fairly progressive
Speaker:Connor: especially for the time period when you're like damn all right not wrong here.
Speaker:brandon: Even the little old lady fucking knows that the bandit rules and the police man yeah well.
Speaker:Evan: You mentioned before the the funeral procession i mean that i think is one of
Speaker:Evan: the the best of all of the like blocking the cops to go through and they know
Speaker:Evan: what they're doing they they know uh they'd rather see the cops anyone get away
Speaker:Evan: as long as the cops fail like fuck them.
Speaker:brandon: Also a mad respect to them having a cb radio in the house yeah.
Speaker:Connor: Another i also love that everybody like everybody would get on to the cb radio
Speaker:Connor: so So like there's this element of like a collective action where like people
Speaker:Connor: are listening in on the CB radios, but like when they participate,
Speaker:Connor: they all come in. Nobody's awkward. Everyone's like,
Speaker:Connor: they come up with a name for themselves and they're like all in it
Speaker:Connor: to help the bandit like they are a part of this history everyone's
Speaker:Connor: all working together like even the the funeral guys he picks
Speaker:Connor: up the cb radio and like you see he like almost thinks for a second he goes this is
Speaker:Connor: grave digger it was just like it's this
Speaker:Connor: whole thing that like everybody's in on it everybody's
Speaker:Connor: got a name everybody's playing along um and it
Speaker:Connor: was really cool that just like how ubiquitous uh
Speaker:Connor: everything was like everyone knew everyone knew
Speaker:Connor: who they were and everyone was there to help old ladies other truck drivers
Speaker:Connor: there's an uh a point which we'll probably talk about later where there's a
Speaker:Connor: sex worker who contacts them over the cb radio let's letting them know she's
Speaker:Connor: going to take care of some of the police in the way which becomes very relevant
Speaker:Connor: a little bit later yeah yeah.
Speaker:Evan: I love that's that's just so yeah you we can talk about that now but that scene
Speaker:Evan: is so funny because then they sheriff the buford justice comes by and is like
Speaker:Evan: thinks he's arresting the bandit and it turns out it's actually just a different
Speaker:Evan: cop like this like the the sheriff or the whatever of that town.
Speaker:Connor: Yeah so well so the bandits like on the radio is like oh yeah i'll come by you
Speaker:Connor: know i'll have to come by and thank you sometimes she's like why don't you come
Speaker:Connor: in person he's like yeah okay he doesn't show up but the fucking sheriff's like
Speaker:Connor: oh i got him i'm gonna go well then he goes and he pulls this guy out and he
Speaker:Connor: goes yeah and he's telling this other cop i got him this is the bandit. And he's like, Sir...
Speaker:Connor: that's my captain and it's it's just yet another fucking cop who's like fucking
Speaker:Connor: soliciting you know sex workers on the job and he's the police captain it's
Speaker:Connor: just one more instance of like yeah and i think uh you per t justice.
Speaker:zach: Says something along the lines of if you're gonna be in a joint like this at
Speaker:zach: least wear a badge on your underwear or something,
Speaker:zach: he knows you're a cop.
Speaker:Connor: And he doesn't arrest you well yeah and of course it's it's noticeable too that
Speaker:Connor: like the first thing that he fucking does as soon as he learns he's a cop he's
Speaker:Connor: like all right i'm like it's just like wait excuse me wait a second what we're done i mean.
Speaker:Evan: At least he doesn't arrest the women i guess that's the only uh.
Speaker:Connor: Well yeah at least there's that he was in a rush, though.
Speaker:Evan: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker:brandon: The more we talk about it, I cannot believe the way this movie uplifts workers,
Speaker:brandon: criminals, sex... This movie is antithetical to everything modern conservatives
Speaker:brandon: would ever believe in and would probably love this movie.
Speaker:Connor: No, they do. It's so funny because my dad loves this movie and I'm like,
Speaker:Connor: my dude, did you watch this movie?
Speaker:Connor: It's making fun of you. I never understand that because I'm like,
Speaker:Connor: dude, a lot of conservative people will watch movies and be like, This is great.
Speaker:Connor: And I'm like, it's antithetical to everything you believe.
Speaker:Connor: And you're a caricature in the film and they're making fun of you.
Speaker:Evan: Or they're thinking, yeah, or they're thinking it's like the opposite.
Speaker:Evan: Like it's making fun of liberals. Yeah.
Speaker:Connor: Who is that politician?
Speaker:bryant: No comprehension.
Speaker:zach: Like name a better duo.
Speaker:bryant: Yeah. Who is that guy that was a big fan of Rage Against the Machine? Scott something.
Speaker:brandon: Oh, the guy who told them to keep politics out of the. something like that oh man.
Speaker:Evan: Or when start with like there's uh i can't think of the conservative woman's
Speaker:Evan: name on uh forget her name she was talking about like starship troopers on twitter
Speaker:Evan: being like oh this movie is pro-fascism it's like no yeah no so many people didn't.
Speaker:Connor: Understand that movie.
Speaker:zach: Yeah or the the iconic tweet of uh star wars isn't about vietnam not unless the u.s.
Speaker:Evan: Is the empire higher oh yeah
Speaker:Evan: i mean it's almost uh amazing i don't know all these things make it it's almost
Speaker:Evan: surprising the studio like this is a universal studio movie and they didn't
Speaker:Evan: seem to have much issue with the movie going through unless they just figured
Speaker:Evan: it's burt reynolds he's like in a
Speaker:Evan: pretty you know he's a popular person he's starring in it so we'll just let
Speaker:Evan: it go i mean i don't know it seems almost shocking i mean i think.
Speaker:bryant: This is when studios were more um willing to risk a little bit on something
Speaker:bryant: you know a little bit more creative a little bit out of the norm,
Speaker:bryant: you know whereas nowadays nowadays they're just you know making marvel sequels or whatever um i.
Speaker:Connor: Mean yeah that was the era that like mel brooks was big right like i feel like
Speaker:Connor: so if that can get through like this is there's a lot of humor that is i would
Speaker:Connor: say similar to like a mel brooks kind of film yeah.
Speaker:bryant: I mean and it.
Speaker:Evan: Wasn't a huge budget.
Speaker:bryant: Or anything it was what like.
Speaker:Evan: No what you said three four million yeah four million yeah that actually reminds
Speaker:Evan: me of a fact i learned recently about because you mentioned Mel Brooks,
Speaker:Evan: is when they're making Blazing Saddles.
Speaker:Evan: Apparently the studio told Mel Brooks to make the movie less racist towards
Speaker:Evan: white people because they're being too mean.
Speaker:Connor: Jesus Christ.
Speaker:brandon: You know, they could never remake Blazing Saddles today.
Speaker:zach: Because Gene Wilder's dead?
Speaker:Evan: I don't know.
Speaker:brandon: I saw some tweet where somebody was like, they could never redo that today because
Speaker:brandon: they completely missed the point.
Speaker:Evan: Yeah.
Speaker:brandon: I was another one of those. Hey, Rage Against the Machine, keep politics out of your music.
Speaker:Connor: Yeah.
Speaker:Evan: Oh, yeah. Well, I guess another person we haven't talked about is Sally Field.
Speaker:Evan: You mentioned before how she
Speaker:Evan: comes into the picture. She's running away from her wedding from a man.
Speaker:Evan: I think she had said she had been with him for five days or something,
Speaker:Evan: and they decided to get married.
Speaker:Evan: And then she's also ticking off and getting dressed under her wedding dress
Speaker:Evan: inside the moving vehicle, which is also pretty badass.
Speaker:Evan: and and burt reynolds has the audacity to be like you have big calves yeah he's
Speaker:Evan: like what are you talking about i don't maybe that's just been like a joke because
Speaker:Evan: he wanted her in the movie because he said that she was beautiful when the studio's
Speaker:Evan: like oh she's not really sexy and he's like no she's sexy so apparently how
Speaker:Evan: she got you know cast well.
Speaker:bryant: And then they ended up dating i think after this.
Speaker:Evan: Married actually yeah i think i don't know how long they got married for let's see four years oh.
Speaker:Connor: Wow okay that's that's an eternity in celebrity marriages so.
Speaker:Evan: 1976 to 1980 i.
Speaker:brandon: Did i had forgotten about that but that tracks because they did have really
Speaker:brandon: good on like kind of weird but good on.
Speaker:zach: Yeah i was gonna say it was really odd that she was so into the bandit like
Speaker:zach: it didn't really seem there was like a lot of pretense for it she was just like i.
Speaker:Connor: Mean that's kind of her.
Speaker:zach: Character though like.
Speaker:Connor: Because she did mention it like she's like oh i had this like crazy you know relationship.
Speaker:Connor: I really thought he was the one. We were together for eight and a half days.
Speaker:Connor: So like it becomes clear like she has a habit of like falling hard and fast
Speaker:Connor: and I can't help but feel like thank God she didn't marry this dimwit fucking
Speaker:Connor: person she was gonna marry because you're like God damn dude.
Speaker:Connor: I don't know what you got in five days that convinced you that he's alright
Speaker:Connor: but like you didn't talk to him. So,
Speaker:Connor: That's all I can say there.
Speaker:Evan: Maybe she met Buford T. Justin and she's like, no, this guy can't be my father-in-law.
Speaker:Connor: Can you imagine?
Speaker:Evan: This fucking asshole. She doesn't seem to like cops.
Speaker:Evan: She's not very obvious about it, I guess, but she's clearly not against the
Speaker:Evan: fact that they're just literally just driving away from cops and evading them the entire movie.
Speaker:brandon: I mean, the subtext of this movie is literally nobody likes police.
Speaker:zach: At one point, she does flip off the cops when they're trying to get a blockade.
Speaker:Evan: That's true.
Speaker:zach: True like removed from the road they do a big slide in the middle of the highway
Speaker:zach: and stop and she just leans out the window and flips off the cops and they turn around and peel out.
Speaker:Connor: Yeah well so that was the one time when they finally when a cop pulled over
Speaker:Connor: the truck and was gonna write you know it's gonna take him to jail that's right
Speaker:Connor: that's when and so like all it took for them to get the cops away from the truck
Speaker:Connor: was just pulling up giving them the finger and then he's like oh it gets all
Speaker:Connor: mad and then chases after him and it's like wow excellent y'all are so yeah
Speaker:Connor: they They have the attention.
Speaker:bryant: Span of a goldfish or something.
Speaker:zach: And the ego is the other thing I liked about, I mean, a traffic stop from happening
Speaker:zach: was getting flipped off.
Speaker:zach: Like they obviously don't care that much.
Speaker:bryant: Yeah.
Speaker:zach: Like, you know, enacting the law, they're just hurt their feelings.
Speaker:zach: And, and they're like, well, that, that can't slide.
Speaker:zach: I can't be flipped off by some lady in a car. So I'm going to chase after them.
Speaker:Connor: One of the other things I liked about, uh her character is
Speaker:Connor: like early on she's like doing all
Speaker:Connor: this stuff she's she's very careless like taking off
Speaker:Connor: her wedding dress in the car which is a whole production at
Speaker:Connor: one point she's driving and decides like she's gonna switch seats while they're
Speaker:Connor: driving with the bandit like she's very unsafe in these
Speaker:Connor: ways but like one of the things she does is like she gets scared she's
Speaker:Connor: like oh my god you're driving so fast and recklessly she like
Speaker:Connor: gets out of her seat and like starts to
Speaker:Connor: like head towards the back of the car not wearing a
Speaker:Connor: seat belt and i'm like if you're scared of
Speaker:Connor: what's happening you should be wearing a seat belt and she's like out of her
Speaker:Connor: seat and like trying to go to the bed and you're like that's that's the worst
Speaker:Connor: thing you could be doing right now um so i found that to be actually kind of
Speaker:Connor: extra funny there is that she was like just freaking out and not doing anything safe remotely i.
Speaker:Evan: Don't that's when she has her joke to like the 10 100 and she was a 10 to...
Speaker:bryant: Real terms, actually.
Speaker:Evan: Are they? Yeah. Oh, perfect. I was going to say, maybe... I think that this...
Speaker:bryant: There was a big...
Speaker:bryant: thing in the 70s around cb radios and truckers like that was sort of a cultural
Speaker:bryant: phenomenon that this sort of i don't know tapped into i guess like there's that
Speaker:bryant: movie convoy also and i'm sure there's other ones um but like i wonder how realistic
Speaker:bryant: it was that just everyone had a cb radio in their car like in this movie.
Speaker:brandon: A friend of mine's dad installed a cb radio in their
Speaker:brandon: house with a 30 foot antenna yeah it was like i can't say how prolific it was
Speaker:brandon: but like it was not uncommon for uh every every fucking custom van in the 70s
Speaker:brandon: and 80s had a cb in it it was on it was fairly common in cars yeah like this
Speaker:brandon: is probably like dramatizing it but dude they were kind of everywhere can.
Speaker:Connor: You i feel like that was like the social media of the time yeah like in a way
Speaker:Connor: right like you could connect with random people within range and a lot of truckers
Speaker:Connor: used them so like yeah i'm sure that was kind of a big thing.
Speaker:brandon: Yeah you would let people know if you know cops hiding somewhere you get past
Speaker:brandon: them you don't get pulled over you hop on the cb and let people know what mile
Speaker:brandon: marker the police are hiding apparently one.
Speaker:Evan: Of the big jumps in cb radios was in the i
Speaker:Evan: think it was like 1973 or 74 when there
Speaker:Evan: was the oil crisis and people could tell others when they're like where they
Speaker:Evan: could find gasoline for their cars or trucks so i mean i don't know how what
Speaker:Evan: percentage of people were owning them at that point but i bet it was you know
Speaker:Evan: it was probably essential if you're a trucker and then i don't know about cars
Speaker:Evan: but probably entertaining when you're driving they They didn't have,
Speaker:Evan: you know, Howard Stern to keep you company in 1973 or.
Speaker:Connor: Yeah, definitely. I could see that. I used to do over the road trucking like
Speaker:Connor: expedited freight kind of thing where I'd be doing super long runs kind of like
Speaker:Connor: this, where it's like, all right, I've got 24 hours and I've got to get across the country.
Speaker:Connor: And so I did driving like that. And it's boring.
Speaker:Connor: Yeah, I could see that. So if you don't have like podcast, I survived on podcasts without podcasts.
Speaker:Connor: Yeah, I'd probably need to be talking to people on the CB radio. video so i get it i.
Speaker:brandon: I spent a lot of time in tractor trailers in the late 80s and early 90s because
Speaker:brandon: my dad was a trucker and we used to take me on the road with him all the time
Speaker:brandon: and he was on the fucking cb constantly.
Speaker:Connor: You need people to talk to like i used to talk on the phone to like friends
Speaker:Connor: who were also doing trucking and stuff like i'd call them up and we'd like chat
Speaker:Connor: for two or three hours uh i would chat with my partner um we first started dating
Speaker:Connor: i was actually driving the truck and one of the ways we got to know each other
Speaker:Connor: really well really fast was because i was in the fucking truck,
Speaker:Connor: And so we would talk on the phone for like one to three hours per day,
Speaker:Connor: just like talking on the phone.
Speaker:Connor: So, um, yeah, it was, I got to know my partner real fast that way.
Speaker:Connor: Um, but so yeah, I could see the
Speaker:Connor: CB radios would be the main form of entertainment. I'm sure for truckers.
Speaker:Evan: What was like the range? Because it seems like if you're in Texas,
Speaker:Evan: could people in Georgia be listening to your commerce? No, right?
Speaker:Evan: That's to be about short.
Speaker:brandon: No, it's you, you've got a range of miles, if not less than that.
Speaker:brandon: and it depended heavily like uh souping up a
Speaker:brandon: cb radio was like a whole phenomenon there were cb radio
Speaker:brandon: shops that specialized in like you know boosting your
Speaker:brandon: signal and and like you know there are different channels so like if there's
Speaker:brandon: a you're in a congested area you might go to it that's what they were talking
Speaker:brandon: about early on in the movie like they're coming up with like oh you know we'll
Speaker:brandon: switch to if you say go to channel nine i'll go to channel three and all that
Speaker:brandon: stuff that's because yeah there was 20 some odd different channels that you'd
Speaker:brandon: switch between if if everything else was crowded.
Speaker:brandon: I used to go over the road trucking too.
Speaker:brandon: And I remember if I would go in New Jersey, there were these people that had
Speaker:brandon: hopped up radios that would just drown everyone out for 15 miles.
Speaker:brandon: They'd be the only people you could hear if they were on.
Speaker:Evan: Well, that actually makes it seem like the legend of the band is even greater.
Speaker:Evan: If people across miles and miles of distance know who he is,
Speaker:Evan: he's clearly a legend across... I guess that's your job also, Joe.
Speaker:Connor: I mean well i guess they also set up that like he was
Speaker:Connor: at this like where they approached him initially with the offer
Speaker:Connor: was at a truck rodeo where they do like you
Speaker:Connor: know truck races and shit and like
Speaker:Connor: goofy stuff is that a real thing he's he's um there
Speaker:Connor: are absolutely yeah no there no there is there's truck there's
Speaker:Connor: truck drag racing um i once went to a
Speaker:Connor: like you know how there's like car shows where like you see
Speaker:Connor: classic cars and shit i went to a truck show of that those
Speaker:Connor: are fucking sick i love those fucking trucks oh
Speaker:Connor: my god it was so fucking cool so i was in i think like joplin
Speaker:Connor: missouri i was i was at a truck stop you know
Speaker:Connor: just chilling and then like across the street there's
Speaker:Connor: like a fucking semi-truck show and i was like yo
Speaker:Connor: i'm gonna go look at they had these things like all decked
Speaker:Connor: out and gorgeous paint everything i was like
Speaker:Connor: so it's very cool in those areas it is a cultural thing and i'm sure at this
Speaker:Connor: time it was even more so so like you've got more custom trucks which that's
Speaker:Connor: the other thing we haven't mentioned the truck that they are driving on the
Speaker:Connor: trailer is like a big fucking cool ass painting and shit like it was cool as fuck oh god.
Speaker:brandon: What what did that uh the one guy even say about his truck he's like anybody
Speaker:brandon: who would paint their truck like that would do something.
Speaker:Connor: Yeah i don't remember.
Speaker:brandon: What he said.
Speaker:Connor: But yeah it was something his whole.
Speaker:brandon: Trailer is just like what like a stage coach being pulled by a bunch of horses or.
Speaker:Connor: Something like that yeah it's a picture.
Speaker:bryant: Of a bandit holding up a stagecoach yeah i've.
Speaker:brandon: Never picked up on that.
Speaker:Connor: Oh that's hell yeah so yeah like this is
Speaker:Connor: a very like you can see like the truck is
Speaker:Connor: iconic he's iconic as a driver he's obviously
Speaker:Connor: traveled around to these different truck rodeos so like he's gonna have a name
Speaker:Connor: and this is where he gets that kind of like folk hero status and so i guess
Speaker:Connor: it's like it's not that unexpected that so many people would know him and would
Speaker:Connor: listen to the traffic and know that he's doing this run and help them out also.
Speaker:brandon: If like everyone's aware that like
Speaker:brandon: this was during a period when like truck drivers were like the modern-day outlaw
Speaker:brandon: and that was like a cultural phenomenon of in its own right yeah yeah because
Speaker:brandon: there were there's a an insane amount of movies about truck drivers being like
Speaker:brandon: outlaw badass guys this isn't even Jerry Reid's only movie where he's a truck driver.
Speaker:Connor: You know I I sometimes wonder where,
Speaker:Connor: where that mentality went where it's like, there was a time where like,
Speaker:Connor: we looked up to criminals where we were like cheering for the criminals.
Speaker:Connor: And then now it's like, no, no one's cheering for any criminals.
Speaker:Connor: I'm like, we, we just like, we lost that.
Speaker:Connor: like i don't know working class solidarity of just like rooting for the little
Speaker:Connor: guy against the police to just like carve out a little living in this fucking
Speaker:Connor: shitty shitty economic system like honestly like yeah the law and order shit.
Speaker:zach: Has really tainted the public's view of what the police do propaganda is fucking real strong that's fair.
Speaker:Evan: Well and the thing is now people will root for
Speaker:Evan: who they think is the good guy i mean like think about it in any marvel
Speaker:Evan: movie you're basically rooting for like american imperialism yeah you know but
Speaker:Evan: it's actually the bad guy and people just unironically are just rooting for
Speaker:Evan: them in every single fucking movie they make so just they've twisted over to
Speaker:Evan: who the bad guy is now it's like china or i don't know some some other place
Speaker:Evan: and then they just yeah when.
Speaker:brandon: They they remade red dawn in north North Korea invades America.
Speaker:Connor: I remember that.
Speaker:Evan: I saw that.
Speaker:Connor: I was like, this is great.
Speaker:brandon: If only in the remake of red Dawn.
Speaker:bryant: North Korea, America, it wasn't it like they, the script was for it to be China.
Speaker:bryant: And then they're like, Oh wait, we don't want to piss off China with this.
Speaker:bryant: So they just like digitally changed all the flags or something.
Speaker:Connor: Oh God.
Speaker:Evan: With Chris Hemsworth, man, this looks terrible.
Speaker:Connor: I haven't seen that.
Speaker:Evan: Like I didn't, I didn't, she didn't realize they had remade it,
Speaker:Evan: but that's, that's terrible.
Speaker:zach: You've seen the original though.
Speaker:Evan: Um yeah i've seen the original.
Speaker:zach: Half of the marvel movies the villain is just some nondescript arab country
Speaker:zach: yeah like they're brown and we're terrified of them let's kill them they're.
Speaker:Connor: Evil for no reason don't ask.
Speaker:zach: Any questions they just hate our freedom and democracy there's no pretext to this.
Speaker:Evan: Oh man now i feel like i need to do i need to do an episode on red dawn that
Speaker:Evan: would be a original Red Dead, not this new one. Haven't seen that in forever.
Speaker:brandon: If you want to go into some Red Scare shit, that might be peak.
Speaker:brandon: In terms of cinema, that might be peak Red Scare.
Speaker:bryant: It's set in Colorado, but filmed in New Mexico, I think.
Speaker:Evan: Yeah, that's a good one. What was the other thing?
Speaker:Connor: I feel like now is a good time just because any time,
Speaker:Connor: North Korea is mentioned as a villain in of whatever and in propaganda i always
Speaker:Connor: mention um blowback season three if you haven't listened to it phenomenal it
Speaker:Connor: is on the korean war and uh believe me learning about that shit is,
Speaker:Connor: fucking wild so yeah it's it's very good if you want to know more about the
Speaker:Connor: history of how the north uh wound up where it is and how the whole korean peninsula
Speaker:Connor: exists today that's a really good podcast to listen to.
Speaker:Evan: Yeah i i would highly i'd second that it's uh phenomenal i think the the new
Speaker:Evan: one is coming out pretty soon cambodia maybe oh.
Speaker:Connor: Yeah i don't know.
Speaker:Evan: I think season five yeah i.
Speaker:Connor: Know the last one was afghanistan which is also every every season of that that's
Speaker:Connor: probably one of the best podcasts out there in my opinion like that is top tier
Speaker:Connor: shit i think in terms of all-time great it's i was gonna make a.
Speaker:brandon: Joke about how it's third behind uh left of the projector well.
Speaker:Evan: That's just assumed i mean i mean they hardly talk about.
Speaker:bryant: Cars or movies at all on that.
Speaker:Connor: Yeah yeah that's actually.
Speaker:bryant: Really lacking well.
Speaker:Evan: They briefly talked about uh in the afghanistan one they briefly talk about
Speaker:Evan: the opening to um what's that's the rainbow yeah the rambo two or it's like
Speaker:Evan: the uh the faked opening credit right i feel.
Speaker:brandon: Like they also talk about bringing in all the toyota trucks at one point.
Speaker:Evan: Oh do they i don't know if i remember that i.
Speaker:brandon: Feel like i remember that being mentioned but i wouldn't swear it's true.
Speaker:Evan: I actually once tried i tried to reach out to noah colwyn to be on this podcast
Speaker:Evan: he didn't respond to me oh well because.
Speaker:brandon: He's not as great as us yeah.
Speaker:Evan: That's okay well.
Speaker:bryant: There's your problem never returned my email so or.
Speaker:Evan: Yeah ralph.
Speaker:bryant: Nader for that matter.
Speaker:Evan: Oh that would have been right.
Speaker:Connor: We were trying to get ralph nader on i.
Speaker:brandon: Don't want to be weird but i found a connect really so if we still want to get
Speaker:brandon: ralph nader Later on, I might know who to talk to.
Speaker:Connor: Absolutely. Okay, we're in.
Speaker:Evan: I can ask. Will he listen to your other episodes? You're just going to go in blind.
Speaker:brandon: I hope he never listens to any of our episodes, because then he will definitely not come on.
Speaker:bryant: I think we were pretty nice to him.
Speaker:Connor: We're still talking about his book. Yeah, we were great.
Speaker:brandon: I'm not saying we were mean to him. I'm just saying, in general,
Speaker:brandon: I won't speak for everyone, but I'm a crazy person.
Speaker:brandon: Anyone who listens to me rant through a whole episode is not going to want to join in.
Speaker:bryant: Uh yeah he is a little bit more of a serious character than all of us but yeah.
Speaker:Evan: With his uh what like those shoes i don't remember the the stat you said about
Speaker:Evan: his shoes which was crazy.
Speaker:bryant: Oh yeah like he he liked to he found a type of shoe that he liked and bought
Speaker:bryant: like 100 pairs of them or something like that just.
Speaker:Evan: Wears them each in.
Speaker:bryant: A row like his.
Speaker:Evan: His his closet's probably like four suits and you know 40 pairs of the same shoe something.
Speaker:bryant: Like that yeah i'd.
Speaker:brandon: Only just occurred to me that maybe ralph nader is autistic.
Speaker:bryant: Yeah he's uh he's uh some sort of neurodiverse person i would say probably see.
Speaker:brandon: That sort of thing never registers to me because,
Speaker:brandon: I don't know. Autistic people make sense to me.
Speaker:zach: I'm over here thinking I should do that with my shoes. I don't know why I don't
Speaker:zach: do that already. That's a great idea.
Speaker:brandon: Oh, I've worn the same style and brand of shoes and the same style and brand of pants for 15 years.
Speaker:Connor: Hey, when you find what works, fucking go with it.
Speaker:brandon: I buy a couple, a few pair at a time so I don't ever have to figure out what I'm wearing.
Speaker:Evan: Smart.
Speaker:brandon: And people never know if I'm just wearing dirty clothes.
Speaker:bryant: He only owns one thing.
Speaker:Evan: Is one of them the blue suit that they wear in this movie or no because if it's
Speaker:Evan: not then i don't know i've.
Speaker:Connor: Been looking.
Speaker:brandon: For one in my size you.
Speaker:Evan: Know they only come in like big and big and small i think apparently these uh
Speaker:Evan: um what's like those i guess well so i guess the for to like you know i don't
Speaker:Evan: spoil the end they're gonna obviously they get to the uh the end and the i guess
Speaker:Evan: the funniest thing is that they do uh they bring the
Speaker:Evan: beer and then they say like oh we'll do double or nothing yeah and they tell
Speaker:Evan: them to go to boss and they bring back clam chowder and what 18 hours which.
Speaker:Connor: Yeah it's really far.
Speaker:brandon: Away that one's insane that is not a thing you're gonna do.
Speaker:Connor: Well yeah and so like they come in and so i i
Speaker:Connor: found it interesting like they come in hot right the
Speaker:Connor: truck is fucking breaking down barriers getting
Speaker:Connor: into there they get there and then they're like all right
Speaker:Connor: give us the fucking money we have to run from the police
Speaker:Connor: this instant like we need a
Speaker:Connor: car we have to get the fuck away because like they're by the
Speaker:Connor: end it culminates in like they're being chased by sheriff buford
Speaker:Connor: t justice along with all kinds of local sheriffs state troopers uh they have
Speaker:Connor: a fucking police helicopter chasing them at one point so when they come in they're
Speaker:Connor: coming in hot they're like all right here's your fucking beer give us the money
Speaker:Connor: and they're like well how about you do double or nothing and and And they're like, yeah, sure, okay.
Speaker:Connor: Like, with no details, they're like, yeah, we're into it. We have to run immediately,
Speaker:Connor: and we've now made a decision.
Speaker:Connor: And then they work out the details are,
Speaker:Connor: Go to Boston. Bring us clam chowder in 18 hours.
Speaker:Connor: And again, this just goes to the point that these rich guys have nothing.
Speaker:Connor: They don't care. None of this matters.
Speaker:Connor: They're just like, all right, how about you do this harder one so that we don't
Speaker:Connor: have to fucking pay you? And the bandit agrees.
Speaker:brandon: That's probably like 800 miles each way.
Speaker:bryant: It's going to take them 18 hours just to get out of Boston, probably.
Speaker:zach: Yeah, no kidding.
Speaker:Evan: Yeah, they don't have the big dig yet. It'll be fucked.
Speaker:brandon: Yo, I got sidetracked, and I need to share this with you. So,
Speaker:brandon: Smokey and the Bandit has two sequels, which get worse and worse.
Speaker:Connor: I didn't know that until last night, and then I was like, oof,
Speaker:Connor: I've never seen those. Probably not good.
Speaker:brandon: I need to read the synopsis from IMDb of Smokey and the Bandit 2.
Speaker:Connor: Okay, one, is it about them getting the clam chowder? I'm assuming it is.
Speaker:Connor: That's a crime. That should be illegal.
Speaker:brandon: Because I couldn't remember what the second one was about, so that's why I even
Speaker:brandon: Googled it. I'm going to read this word for fucking word.
Speaker:brandon: Folk hero The Bandit has fallen on bad times, but comes to life when he is hired
Speaker:brandon: to help transport a pregnant elephant to a Republican convention in Dallas.
Speaker:Connor: Why? Why does that exist? Did they get the clam chowder?
Speaker:Connor: I don't even know. Oh, that's...
Speaker:Connor: why is you're.
Speaker:brandon: Too focused on the continuity.
Speaker:Connor: Here yeah well a pregnant elephant that's that's not good don't put that in
Speaker:Connor: a truck and drive real fast like what are you doing what's that one's got dom.
Speaker:brandon: Deluise in it who dom deluise i.
Speaker:Connor: Don't know who that is i.
Speaker:brandon: I forget that i'm the oldest i.
Speaker:bryant: Know he's a character.
Speaker:Connor: So he.
Speaker:brandon: Was sort of an eccentric actor back in the day he's he's real over the top um.
Speaker:Evan: Wait are you old.
Speaker:Connor: I don't know if you're older what was the third one uh.
Speaker:brandon: I i just remember that the tagline is smoky is the bandit um i.
Speaker:Connor: Think that they.
Speaker:brandon: Get jackie gleason to uh actually be the the good guy in that one.
Speaker:Connor: I'm against it now that's that's horseshit also.
Speaker:brandon: Uh uh for some reason they make um um they they like swap everything around
Speaker:brandon: and um jerry reed is the bandit in that movie.
Speaker:Connor: I mean that's kind of cool well he's got like a mustache.
Speaker:brandon: And they're like they could i don't think they could get burt reynolds for this
Speaker:brandon: one so they tried to make him look like burt reynolds.
Speaker:Connor: Is in the second.
Speaker:Evan: One i think i'm talking about the third one third.
Speaker:Connor: One yeah by the third yeah he's probably like all right this is horse shit now
Speaker:Connor: i don't want to do it um i feel like we should be glad to.
Speaker:brandon: Know that big and little anus are in okay that.
Speaker:Connor: Is good to know it uh i also think it's important to mention um for anyone who hasn't seen the movie,
Speaker:Connor: smoky is referring to a police officer any police officer they're they're referring
Speaker:Connor: to on the cb be radios as smoky so the title smoky and the bandit is about the
Speaker:Connor: fucking police um which i don't think we've actually ever clarified because
Speaker:Connor: it could easily be another.
Speaker:Evan: Character named smoky so yeah yeah.
Speaker:Connor: And i.
Speaker:zach: Just i love that they call cops smokies in this it's so good and like perfectly
Speaker:zach: derogatory for a pg rating like i feel like if they had a uh a higher rating
Speaker:zach: or you know like an R rating,
Speaker:zach: they would have just called this movie Pigs and the Bandit.
Speaker:zach: I love that about it.
Speaker:brandon: I know Smokey was common slang back then. I don't really know the origins of
Speaker:brandon: it or how derogative it even necessarily was.
Speaker:zach: It feels derogatory to me because I see it as kind of like calling pigs in a
Speaker:zach: blanket little Smokeys or the little,
Speaker:zach: wieners like little Smokeys is kind of just one step removed from calling cops
Speaker:zach: cops, pigs, and I don't know. I just enjoy that.
Speaker:Connor: It's hard to imagine any nickname for cops not being derogatory.
Speaker:Connor: So I kind of feel you there. It's like, yeah, it was probably meant to be a pejorative.
Speaker:zach: Yeah, I mean, they weren't calling them officers of the law.
Speaker:zach: They were not calling them.
Speaker:Connor: There was no respect in the term.
Speaker:Evan: Clearly.
Speaker:bryant: I looked it up, and it's because they wore big cowboy hats like Smokey the Bear.
Speaker:brandon: Okay oh my god i i assumed that smoky the bear came later no that's.
Speaker:bryant: Like from the 20s or something.
Speaker:Connor: Okay oh.
Speaker:brandon: I didn't know that i didn't know that.
Speaker:bryant: Yeah it was uh it was uh or maybe even earlier it was teddy roosevelt uh had
Speaker:bryant: a bear cub named smoky because he rescued it from a forest fire yeah oh no shit.
Speaker:Evan: That actually reminds me of a of a thing that i forgot to mention we were talking
Speaker:Evan: about cores earlier apparently dwight eisenhower when he was president would
Speaker:Evan: also steal cores and bring it back to the white house because he couldn't get
Speaker:Evan: it except for in colorado i think.
Speaker:Connor: I feel like that's not stealing if you're the president like you're basically
Speaker:Connor: a king you could just be like give me the thing and they'll give it to you i
Speaker:Connor: don't think i don't know if there's well i mean i guess you could steal the
Speaker:Connor: wealth of other nations and whatnot as you plunder the world that's just democracy
Speaker:Connor: but like that's a little different alternate.
Speaker:brandon: Plot for this movie FDR contacts the bandit He.
Speaker:Connor: Wants a truckload Of Coors.
Speaker:brandon: Beer delivered to Washington D.C. in 28 hours.
Speaker:Evan: And he also works As a CIA agent on the side Yeah.
Speaker:brandon: Actually if it's A secret Remake of Smokey and the Bandit He's just running cocaine for the CIA.
Speaker:zach: This is literally the Archer Episode where they spoof Smokey and the Bandit
Speaker:zach: This is exactly what happens in that episode of Archer yeah.
Speaker:bryant: What's that movie with Tom Cruise where he's smuggling coke for the cartels
Speaker:bryant: or whatever? And there's like a CIA connection.
Speaker:bryant: It's like, oh, shoot. American Made, I think, is what it's called.
Speaker:Connor: I don't think I've ever seen a Tom Cruise movie. Like, I don't think it's possible.
Speaker:Connor: Is it? What movies is he in?
Speaker:brandon: He was in all of them for 20 years.
Speaker:Connor: Was he? All I remember is he danced on Oprah's couch or something or stood there.
Speaker:Connor: I don't know what. I don't know. I just know that that's a reference.
Speaker:Connor: friends he was in that fucking airplane movie that i never saw so every mission.
Speaker:Evan: Impossible yeah never.
Speaker:Connor: Saw those you're talking.
Speaker:brandon: About top gun i love that you just referred to top gun as that airplane.
Speaker:Connor: Movie that's not to be confused with the movie airplane which is tom cruise is.
Speaker:zach: Not an airplane just so we're clear.
Speaker:Connor: All right i continue to hold that i don't think i've ever seen a tom cruise
Speaker:Connor: film good for me you're not missing out i don't think.
Speaker:brandon: Um at an an hour and a half do we want to wrap this up because right now we're talking about tom um.
Speaker:Connor: I did want to okay i wanted to have a quick conversation about some of the the comical damage,
Speaker:Connor: that is incurred by uh buford t justice as they like as the car gets increasingly
Speaker:Connor: damaged throughout the movie oh.
Speaker:bryant: Daddy the top came.
Speaker:Connor: Um i love when he.
Speaker:Evan: Says throw the evidence in the back and he just like puts the door in the back of the car at this.
Speaker:Connor: Right because no no it's.
Speaker:brandon: It's even better than that. He gets in. He's like, put the evidence in the car
Speaker:brandon: and he climbs into the passenger seat with the car door in his lap.
Speaker:brandon: Like, put it in the back, Junior.
Speaker:Connor: Well, and the door was knocked off because a trucker who was listening in on
Speaker:Connor: the CD radio, like, was like, this is crazy look in his eyes.
Speaker:Connor: And he's like, he sees the cop car pulled over with the door open and he drives
Speaker:Connor: through and, like, takes the door off.
Speaker:Connor: And the Buford T judge is like, I saw that. You did that on purpose.
Speaker:Connor: Well, like, he's just gone. He drives away.
Speaker:Connor: So, by the end, I mean, like,
Speaker:Connor: the car had lost its top at some point when they drove under a truck that was
Speaker:Connor: like crossing the road, uh,
Speaker:Connor: carrying something, um, not in a traditional truck bed, but like,
Speaker:Connor: so it's crossing the road, the bandit, um, their car, they obviously, they miss it.
Speaker:Connor: They, they change directions and the sheriff's car goes under it.
Speaker:Connor: Shears the whole fucking roof off, which, uh, you know, pretty big damage.
Speaker:Connor: Um, they duck their heads, whatever. And, It takes the roof off.
Speaker:Connor: But yeah, there was just there was so much damage to this car that I just I
Speaker:Connor: love that they continue driving it. No door, no top.
Speaker:Connor: At one point, the horn is stuck on driving around and the horns just blaring.
Speaker:bryant: I've been in that situation. It's unfortunate.
Speaker:Evan: Apparently, at the end, they could actually barely even drive the car.
Speaker:Evan: They had destroyed it so much where they like when he's actually rolling out
Speaker:Evan: of the fair at the end. like it actually was struggling to actually drive like.
Speaker:bryant: In real life you mean and when they're making.
Speaker:Evan: Real life yeah oh yeah he has so many good lines there's one other one that
Speaker:Evan: i was trying to remember uh oh man i lost the one,
Speaker:Evan: I like that he asked for the Diablo sandwich, which is apparently a real thing,
Speaker:Evan: the Diablo chicken sandwich, and then a Dr. Pepper.
Speaker:Connor: Wait, at that particular restaurant or something? Because I was wondering,
Speaker:Connor: how the fuck does he know what to order?
Speaker:Connor: That was my question. I was like, he's way behind Texas. How does he know?
Speaker:brandon: I think that just means a spicy chicken sandwich.
Speaker:zach: Yeah.
Speaker:Evan: Apparently, I think that was in Arkansas where they were, I think.
Speaker:Evan: I don't know. Yeah, I think it's in Arkansas.
Speaker:zach: I think it's in Arkansas now.
Speaker:Evan: Yeah, I think it's apparently famous now.
Speaker:brandon: Also, since we're discussing that, can we acknowledge that they refer to like
Speaker:brandon: truck stop restaurants as joking pukes?
Speaker:bryant: Yeah.
Speaker:zach: I would also like to point out that the bandit orders two cheeseburgers and
Speaker:zach: an iced tea and his total is a dollar and a half.
Speaker:zach: Which is just infuriating to hear in the year 2024.
Speaker:Connor: Well, and actually, I did take notes about this. that is a scene where the bandit
Speaker:Connor: and sheriff view for t justice encounter each other in person um,
Speaker:Connor: unbeknownst to the sheriff who's like coming in screaming ranting raving and
Speaker:Connor: actually i forgot this kind of a major point um that i wanted to make he's like
Speaker:Connor: screaming about how he's chasing this maniac and the bandit's just like calmly
Speaker:Connor: at the counter like oh man that's crazy wow tell me
Speaker:Connor: more about this guy you're chasing he's like oh he's uh he's guilty of kidnapping he he attempted.
Speaker:Connor: Murder of 20 officers so like as it
Speaker:Connor: goes on and it was like making the point that like this cop can
Speaker:Connor: just lie and make shit up and like inflate the
Speaker:Connor: charges to this absurd degree so like
Speaker:Connor: you hear him describing the most deranged criminal in all time and we know the
Speaker:Connor: bandit's the hero of this film none of the shit he's saying is fucking true
Speaker:Connor: this cop just lies through his fucking teeth and I found that like that was
Speaker:Connor: a deliberate choice when they made this film like that the cop is just,
Speaker:Connor: fucking making up this whole story and like
Speaker:Connor: twisting everything that has happened into this
Speaker:Connor: is the worst criminal ever and it's like no it's
Speaker:Connor: not so um and i also found it funny like as he's like yelling to the bandit
Speaker:Connor: about this maniac that he's chasing not knowing who he's talking to he's like
Speaker:Connor: speaking in a way that like he spits on the face accidentally of the bandit who like
Speaker:Connor: calmly like wipes it away from his eye.
Speaker:Connor: Like, and just like without missing a beat, like wipes away his spit and like
Speaker:Connor: keeps like asking him questions.
Speaker:Connor: But like, it was pretty amusing that like they come face to face like this.
Speaker:Connor: And then we know that the fucking sheriff is just sitting there lying and being an asshole.
Speaker:Connor: And it's, it's, it's a great portrayal of police.
Speaker:Evan: Yeah. Maybe the greatest portrayal ever in a movie.
Speaker:brandon: Definitely the most accurate.
Speaker:bryant: You know uh one thing i wanted to ask brandon is like how accurate are the georgia
Speaker:bryant: accents in this or do you think they're kind of hamming it up a little bit.
Speaker:brandon: Um okay so truck drivers
Speaker:brandon: in my experience which is pretty a lot because
Speaker:brandon: my dad and all of his friends were drivers tended to
Speaker:brandon: be kind of an over-the-top eccentric crowd so like honestly i'm
Speaker:brandon: not good at hearing southern accents sense because i'm really fucking
Speaker:brandon: used to it um but i mean i don't know i would say it's it's a slight exaggeration
Speaker:brandon: but more in terms of like the movie is about a a group of characters that are
Speaker:brandon: like supposed to be kind of over the top and interesting but none of the accents
Speaker:brandon: didn't really stand out to me it's too much yeah.
Speaker:bryant: I couldn't tell myself because i know.
Speaker:brandon: I mean everything if anything i okay again i fucking love jerry reed um if anything
Speaker:brandon: he dialed it it back to play that character he was in real life just a really
Speaker:brandon: like raucous fun happy over the top kind of guy cool.
Speaker:bryant: I'll have to look.
Speaker:brandon: And also like one of probably the most talented guitar players in the history
Speaker:brandon: of country music you know does anybody want a very brief story about how he became famous sure.
Speaker:Connor: Yeah of course.
Speaker:brandon: He sold a song to elvis to play,
Speaker:brandon: But because he was such a good guitar player, they had to bring him into the,
Speaker:brandon: they had to like track him back down.
Speaker:brandon: He was in Georgia at the time and they had to ship him out to wherever Elvis
Speaker:brandon: was because Elvis could not, like nobody in the recording studio could figure
Speaker:brandon: out how to play the song the way that Jerry Reed had written it.
Speaker:Connor: That's awesome.
Speaker:brandon: He got famous because he had to go in to actually teach them to play his music. And that.
Speaker:Evan: That's amazing.
Speaker:brandon: He had like written music for people before and was not unestablished,
Speaker:brandon: but that really got his, his him to the next level where he was able to like take off from there.
Speaker:bryant: Cool.
Speaker:Connor: That's sweet. Um, I think speaking of, uh, Jerry Reed, um, Oh,
Speaker:Connor: I forgot my thought. Whoops.
Speaker:Connor: Oh, well it's gone. You know, I had it.
Speaker:bryant: I'll say one thing I appreciate about this movie was just like all the seventies
Speaker:bryant: style in their fashion and hairstyles and everything.
Speaker:brandon: It's, it, yeah it's such a yeah it's kind of like looking.
Speaker:bryant: At pictures of my parents when they're in high school but it's just it's just amusing i think.
Speaker:brandon: There's more than a couple of second gen for advanced too which uh you know
Speaker:brandon: it hits me right in the heartstrings although i am confused as to why all the
Speaker:brandon: ones in the movie are running uh.
Speaker:Connor: Well it was the time period they were they were close to new back then.
Speaker:brandon: Yeah i stand by what okay i.
Speaker:Connor: Was like oh you.
Speaker:brandon: Know what that doesn't that doesn't.
Speaker:Connor: Mean a lot actually I do remember my point about Jerry Reed by the way I was
Speaker:Connor: going to point out that also,
Speaker:Connor: I found it especially cool that the iconic song for the movie is eastbound and
Speaker:Connor: down, which I don't know if we can add that song into like the outro or something.
Speaker:Connor: But at the beginning of the movie, it's actually westbound and down.
Speaker:Connor: OK, so the song is actually different at the beginning of the movie.
Speaker:Connor: So I extra cool on Jerry Reed to write basically two songs that are very similar,
Speaker:Connor: but are at different points of exposition for the movie I think.
Speaker:Evan: You would be okay with me putting the songs at the beginning and the end of this movie.
Speaker:Connor: Probably hopefully it doesn't cause a problem I've put like occasionally put.
Speaker:Evan: Things in like Lord of the Rings whatever and there's no like monetary gain
Speaker:Evan: from this podcast what are they going to sue me from like the zero.
Speaker:Connor: Dollars I put a two second clip.
Speaker:bryant: Of cake song in one of our episodes and then when i uploaded it to youtube they
Speaker:bryant: said we're not allowing this to be visible in russia so that was the only consequence of that okay i.
Speaker:Connor: Did see a bunch of a bunch of emails come through from youtube as soon as you
Speaker:Connor: uploaded our shit like we've removed this we've removed that i was like god
Speaker:Connor: damn like chill out we're not fucking doing anything or making any money here like come on i.
Speaker:brandon: Looked up the smoky and the bandit soundtrack and there is a separate recording
Speaker:brandon: for westbound and down and eastbound and down but there's also a track on the
Speaker:brandon: soundtrack called march of the rednecks.
Speaker:Connor: Hell yeah i wonder.
Speaker:zach: If that's the song that they play when all of the people leave the uh gas station
Speaker:zach: to block up the cops and they're all in like hot rods this is.
Speaker:brandon: An entire movie about people blocking the police.
Speaker:Connor: It's so great I you know they make fun of the police and they also like display
Speaker:Connor: like this working class solidarity that is just like so cool to see on screen,
Speaker:Connor: and it's and so many everyone who sees this movie.
Speaker:Connor: Gets it and they can they're on the right side everybody's like
Speaker:Connor: yeah solidarity with the working people i'm like can we do that
Speaker:Connor: in real life can we have like the just the real
Speaker:Connor: thing just be like that just be like these
Speaker:Connor: people they're all cool and amazing you should want
Speaker:Connor: to emulate them absolutely yeah um now
Speaker:Connor: there's there is one thing i did want to mention too um as
Speaker:Connor: we have all this praise for the for the movie um i didn't
Speaker:Connor: want to like entirely leave it up to like oh it's
Speaker:Connor: so great and everything there is some sexism in this movie um
Speaker:Connor: it was that time period but like it is watching it
Speaker:Connor: back i was like all right yeah it's there so
Speaker:Connor: like they have some kind of progressive feel
Speaker:Connor: towards like racial politics and and just generally
Speaker:Connor: a lot of progressive ideas one of those ideas is
Speaker:Connor: not uh feminism um unfortunately like
Speaker:Connor: some of it feels a little tongue-in-cheek kind
Speaker:Connor: of like everything else but some of it i was like nah this
Speaker:Connor: feels a little bit like just regular old sexism um so you know warning anyone
Speaker:Connor: who does listen or who does choose to like watch this movie it's there um i
Speaker:Connor: i don't think it's like overbearing to a point where it's like unwatchable but like it's there yeah.
Speaker:bryant: And there was a a little note of casual racism where uh the truck driver that
Speaker:bryant: takes the door off the sheriff's car is an asian guy and he yells bonsai as he does it so.
Speaker:Connor: Oh yeah.
Speaker:brandon: Appropriate or not i did laugh at that it was you just don't in the 70s you
Speaker:brandon: just didn't see a lot of asian people i guess so yeah appropriate no but.
Speaker:Connor: Yeah so like the film had the film had its its issues right it's from 1977 it's
Speaker:Connor: it's gonna be certainly imperfect and and problematic in a number of ways.
Speaker:Connor: Um, what is more surprising to me is the ways in which it was less problematic
Speaker:Connor: than you would expect. Um, it is,
Speaker:Connor: overall had pretty reasonable politics i
Speaker:Connor: feel like and you know saying cops are bad and
Speaker:Connor: making fun of them always good politics that's great so um
Speaker:Connor: but it was it it did seem
Speaker:Connor: like this story the folk hero status of the bandit really
Speaker:Connor: did unite people across gender rate uh
Speaker:Connor: racial uh you know identity religion whatever
Speaker:Connor: it seemed to unite everybody in the working class
Speaker:Connor: around this this mission of the bandit beating the police and you know getting
Speaker:Connor: the fucking getting one over on the rich guys who thought he couldn't do it
Speaker:Connor: um so like there are good things there are problems with it of course um but
Speaker:Connor: overall i feel like it is it is a little bit of.
Speaker:bryant: A male fantasy.
Speaker:Connor: Movie kind.
Speaker:bryant: Of like a james bond.
Speaker:Connor: Movie or something.
Speaker:bryant: Like that yeah absolutely.
Speaker:Evan: That's true yes this this this.
Speaker:Connor: It was my male targeting my.
Speaker:brandon: People is.
Speaker:bryant: It is it red redneck exploitation what did you call it that or trucker exploitation.
Speaker:brandon: I i i would argue yes which i
Speaker:brandon: don't think that's necessarily a bad thing but like yeah and then that weird
Speaker:brandon: incredibly specific subset of movies from the era yeah i would lump this into
Speaker:brandon: that because like i said like trucker movies were all the rage and this one
Speaker:brandon: in convoy were the big two which i also would have accepted doing convoy because
Speaker:brandon: chris christopherson was another fucking badass working class hero.
Speaker:Connor: You know actually you know what else struck me about this movie
Speaker:Connor: weirdly they they actually spend way less
Speaker:Connor: time talking about the car than i would have expected in
Speaker:Connor: a lot of ways the car kind of feels like an afterthought they they never
Speaker:Connor: actually i don't think they ever actually say what engine it has
Speaker:Connor: they don't ever actually like spend any time being like
Speaker:Connor: yo this car is fast they don't ever
Speaker:Connor: say they just like it's just driving he has um they
Speaker:Connor: don't talk about what engine it has they don't talk about look oh
Speaker:Connor: this thing's a stick shift or they don't talk about
Speaker:Connor: or automate they talk about none of it they don't
Speaker:Connor: talk about the tires it has they don't talk about the suspension they don't
Speaker:Connor: like and a lot of times when you see a car that is like so
Speaker:Connor: prominent in a film they're gonna mention like here's
Speaker:Connor: the details of this car and it's so funny that like this is such a like an iconic
Speaker:Connor: film it put the fucking trans am on the map 700% increase in sales for the Pontiac
Speaker:Connor: Trans Am and they talked about it like not at all. It was a fucking afterthought.
Speaker:Connor: It was just we're going to buy a random car that's quick to block the police
Speaker:Connor: and like this thing had T tops and everything which for those who don't know
Speaker:Connor: T tops is instead of a convertible.
Speaker:Connor: It's like you have these this roof is made of like a center pillar that's metal
Speaker:Connor: and connected to the rest of the car and then these two,
Speaker:Connor: like glass squares that you can remove and so it's almost like a convertible it's.
Speaker:brandon: It's the coolest possible way to guarantee that your car leaks in the rain.
Speaker:Connor: I was i'm glad someone made the joke yes it's a very cool way to have a leaky car um,
Speaker:Connor: so like it had all this cool shit it was and
Speaker:Connor: funny enough i actually had a 1981 trans am
Speaker:Connor: it was my first car never drove it uh
Speaker:Connor: not surprising the thing was rotting out and
Speaker:Connor: whatnot it's a whole thing i'm not gonna get into it but yeah these
Speaker:Connor: cars had some problems but um i
Speaker:Connor: did find it like kind of just weird that like they're driving this
Speaker:Connor: car in this like even the director like kind of
Speaker:Connor: alluded to the car as like its own character and yet
Speaker:Connor: we know so little about the character like it became culturally you knew about
Speaker:Connor: it it's like oh that's the bandit car like everybody knows the car but like
Speaker:Connor: again we don't even know what fucking engine it has we're guessing it's either
Speaker:Connor: the 400 or the 403 we don't actually i don't think we actually officially do.
Speaker:brandon: I think it would have been the 400 or the 455.
Speaker:Connor: No i don't even think it was the 455 because i don't even think that was offered in 1970.
Speaker:zach: We do know i.
Speaker:Connor: Think it was well this was.
Speaker:bryant: A 76 we're getting real arty here the.
Speaker:brandon: Car is a 76.
Speaker:Connor: Oh yeah.
Speaker:brandon: We are getting autistic about that we do.
Speaker:Connor: Know that it has the 400 because.
Speaker:zach: It says on the ram air intake on the hood 6.6 liter yes at one point you can the 6.6.
Speaker:Connor: Liter referred to both they referred to both the 400 and the 403 although i
Speaker:Connor: think technically the 403 might have said t slash a 6.6 i i'm i'm a little unclear
Speaker:Connor: about that but both were technically a 6.6 liter.
Speaker:Connor: And yes, we're being very autistic about this now. Yeah. That's sorry.
Speaker:Evan: That's okay. Um, what was I going to say? I forgot.
Speaker:Connor: I don't know. I just found that fucking weird though. Like that.
Speaker:Connor: They just really, the car is just like kind of an afterthought,
Speaker:Connor: even though this is the movie that is like the Trans Am movie.
Speaker:Connor: Like I just found that to be in a way.
Speaker:zach: The car kind of speaks for itself in the movie, whereas you don't have to have
Speaker:zach: this scene of like a bunch of exposition about, oh, this is a 1977 Trans Am
Speaker:zach: with a 403 cubic inch, you know, yada, yada, yada, giving you all the details of the car.
Speaker:zach: It's just kind of like, look, this car can outrun the cops.
Speaker:zach: It can do cool skids. It can jump a bridge.
Speaker:zach: Like, just look at what it does. And it speaks for itself.
Speaker:Connor: And it looks great doing it. And it looks good doing it.
Speaker:bryant: I also got the sense that this could all be accomplished in whatever car Burt Reynolds was driving.
Speaker:bryant: Like, he's just, you know, supernaturally good at driving that he can make anything fast.
Speaker:zach: Yeah like he could be.
Speaker:bryant: In a you know honda civic or something and be doing the same thing.
Speaker:zach: It's it's the initial it's the initial d yes it's.
Speaker:Connor: The initial d.
Speaker:zach: Car driving wherein you know the car isn't so important it could be anything
Speaker:zach: it could be a beater a commuter car and yeah this driver is just so otherworldly
Speaker:zach: that he makes it fast yeah Yeah.
Speaker:bryant: Despite all the garbage bias ply tires they were on in this.
Speaker:zach: Which probably lended to the skids.
Speaker:brandon: It was, in fact, a 400.
Speaker:bryant: Yeah.
Speaker:Connor: Okay, it was a 400.
Speaker:brandon: The 403 didn't come out until 77. So even though they were making this look
Speaker:brandon: like a 77, it was a 76. So the 403 would not have been an option.
Speaker:Connor: Okay. All right, there you go. So it was the 400. It's about 185 horsepower,
Speaker:Connor: 320-ish foot-pounds of torque.
Speaker:Connor: I mean, the torque is good, but it's okay. I mean...
Speaker:zach: Hey, it can do 110 kilometers an hour.
Speaker:bryant: Um so would you guys recommend this movie and like what would you what would you rate it.
Speaker:Connor: Yes i.
Speaker:Evan: Gave it four stars on letterboxd so yeah.
Speaker:zach: I was gonna say eight out of ten so i i feel yeah.
Speaker:Connor: I think that's about right i i do four and four to four and a half out of five
Speaker:Connor: um you know i it was i'm gonna go with four and a half.
Speaker:brandon: Since i literally in a weird way changed my life.
Speaker:Connor: I mean this is part of the reason i bought a trans am which i was i very much
Speaker:Connor: regretted and spent a lot of money it was a very expensive mistake i think a
Speaker:Connor: lot of people made that mistake i.
Speaker:brandon: Feel like if you look come at this movie from a working class perspective this
Speaker:brandon: was literally the best that you could have ever hoped to get yeah in the air absolutely,
Speaker:brandon: Like barring you, like, yeah, there absolutely was some issues with like sexism
Speaker:brandon: and like, like, like there was racism.
Speaker:brandon: It was just being poked fun of because it was coming from the police,
Speaker:brandon: but it was still poking fun at a very fucking real thing.
Speaker:brandon: Like that dude's a racist piece of shit cop, but the movie's against him.
Speaker:Connor: Yeah, it's their portrayal. A lot of the portrayal, like there is a lot of racism
Speaker:Connor: in the movie and it's being portrayed as this is bad and not only bad, it's stupid.
Speaker:Connor: Like we're making fun of it because it's so fucking dumb.
Speaker:Connor: And for a movie from 1977, I mean, that was kind of good.
Speaker:Connor: I mean, this movie actually, I guess I hadn't ever really watched it from that
Speaker:Connor: leftist perspective, but like really taking notes, it really did have like kind of decent politics.
Speaker:Connor: And it was very anti-police. And like, not only was it just anti-police,
Speaker:Connor: it actually showed very specific real problems with the police. They are racist.
Speaker:Connor: They can lie with impunity. they can just do whatever they want to fucking random
Speaker:Connor: people and not be held accountable at all. They can ignore their jurisdictions.
Speaker:Connor: They can, you know, find another cop doing a crime and then just be like,
Speaker:Connor: Oh, don't arrest that guy actually.
Speaker:Connor: So like they actually were very specific about the things that the police do that they don't like.
Speaker:Connor: And I mean, for that, I think the film does deserve some credit. I mean, green.
Speaker:Evan: Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker:zach: Yeah.
Speaker:Connor: So I'd recommend it.
Speaker:bryant: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker:brandon: Oh yeah.
Speaker:Evan: But I guess before we go, Where can people find your podcast or we already told
Speaker:Evan: everyone where it is. I guess they can go on onto the internet.
Speaker:bryant: Presumably. If you just search cars and comrades on most, any platform will, will show up.
Speaker:bryant: Um, I'm pretty sure it's and spelled out with no ampersand.
Speaker:bryant: Um, and then we're on social media as the same. Um, um,
Speaker:bryant: Not Reddit anymore. I kind of gave up on that. But Facebook,
Speaker:bryant: Instagram, Twitter, HexBear.
Speaker:zach: And YouTube now.
Speaker:brandon: Cars and Comrades, wherever podcasts are sold.
Speaker:zach: Yeah, we are on YouTube now as well.
Speaker:Evan: Does it come with a free Trans Am sticker? You gotta have a...
Speaker:zach: No, but we should absolutely make a Trans Am sticker.
Speaker:bryant: I'm sure...
Speaker:brandon: Have you not seen the Trans Am?
Speaker:zach: Yeah, we need to make a sticker of that and sell it. But we're probably not going to do that.
Speaker:Connor: Already exists yeah um i believe
Speaker:Connor: you can get it from it's a weird name i'm not gonna know it off the top of my
Speaker:Connor: head i'm sorry but you can find it it's the trans am with the trans colors and
Speaker:Connor: everything that sticker does exist it is very cool and yeah it's it's dope i'm
Speaker:Connor: i'm a big fan yeah get the get trans but not.
Speaker:Evan: A trans actual transient that'll be yeah don't.
Speaker:zach: Get a transit.
Speaker:Connor: Yeah don't go don't get a second gen probably don't get a third gen don't get a fourth gen
Speaker:Connor: either because i have a fourth gen camaro that i'm trying to sell right now
Speaker:Connor: in fact if you don't mind i'm going to take this time to sell my
Speaker:Connor: car to your listeners if anybody
Speaker:Connor: is interested in a 30th anniversary white and orange camaro ss it's a 1997 uh
Speaker:Connor: it has no problems at all i promise it's very good i have not struggled with
Speaker:Connor: it for many many years um it has a ford nine inch rear rear end cause the engine,
Speaker:Connor: the rear end blew up when I first bought it. So don't,
Speaker:Connor: It's better. It's better now. But yeah, it's listed at gateway classic cars.
Speaker:Connor: What the fuck's it called? I don't know. It's on consignment somewhere.
Speaker:Evan: Yeah.
Speaker:zach: Yeah.
Speaker:Connor: Uh, gateway classic cars. Yeah.
Speaker:zach: So, and if you believe that it has no issues, please don't listen to any of
Speaker:zach: our episodes in which we just spell that. Yeah.
Speaker:Evan: And we'll just put the link down below and no one will ever.
Speaker:Connor: It doesn't currently have any issues. I fixed them. I'm hoping there's no more,
Speaker:Connor: but I also don't care if there's any.
Speaker:Connor: so that's the deal i'm making with you if you're interested you can hit up our
Speaker:Connor: email at cars and comrades.com.
Speaker:bryant: And uh and comrades at gmail oh.
Speaker:Connor: Cars and comrades.
Speaker:bryant: Gmail.com.
Speaker:Connor: And i will definitely try and sell you this car and.
Speaker:brandon: Also if you have a cheap 76 trans am hit me up i was actually looking.
Speaker:Evan: For the other day i'll.
Speaker:bryant: Also say that i have a 2005 sob 92x aero for sale it has 200 000 miles and no
Speaker:bryant: issues at all uh but actually hopefully i have someone coming to look at it
Speaker:bryant: next week uh that wants to buy it and uh yeah sorry evan we're all gonna try
Speaker:bryant: and sell our cars now we are.
Speaker:Connor: All trying to sell cars i.
Speaker:brandon: Would just like to note that i have eight vehicles and i don't want to sell any of them they're mine.
Speaker:Evan: Well that's fucking perfect uh but zach connor yeah i bet.
Speaker:zach: You're regretting having this on now.
Speaker:Evan: I won't you won't regret it if you won't regret it if you sell your car after
Speaker:Evan: this so i'll have you uh you have to come back to that but uh brandon bryant
Speaker:Evan: connor and zach it's been a pleasure having you on and should definitely do it again definitely.
Speaker:brandon: Absolutely yeah this was a hoot yeah thank you.
Speaker:Connor: Yeah maybe one of these days we'll do uh we'll actually do fast and furious.
Speaker:Evan: Yeah that would be fun i.
Speaker:brandon: Would also do convoy movie for so many good babies.
Speaker:Evan: Hmm man.
Speaker:Connor: Someone should make a podcast about how good movies are it.
Speaker:Evan: Could be a car movie podcast that's.
Speaker:brandon: A good idea.
Speaker:Connor: And like do it from like a leftist perspective i think that would be very cool.
Speaker:Evan: Oh this is giving me a good idea for the but uh i think i'm gonna do that you.
Speaker:brandon: Want in on this uh.
Speaker:Evan: But you've been listening to the left of the projector and you can follow it
Speaker:Evan: left of the projector.com.
Speaker:brandon: We'll uh keep an eye out for my future podcast what's left of the projector actor.
Speaker:Evan: Oh, we'll catch you next time.
Speaker:bryant: Movies and comrades.