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Are you feeling stuck at the edge of your next big breakthrough?

Curtis McCollum is here today to reveal how to crush hidden mindset blocks

and align your vision with action and activate a soaring mindset so you

can finally fly past those limits.

So we are absolutely thrilled and excited to have you today.

Curtis, welcome to the show.

Oh, thank you for having me.

I mean, I'm just so excited to kinda share with you guys.

You know, I love you and I love Kristen for sure, because of the fact that

what you've done for me in my life.

So yeah, I'm excited to share with you guys.

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Well, let's tell everybody a little bit about how you got into

mindset coaching and how you really helped people transform not their,

their businesses and their lives.

Yeah, it's interesting.

It's an interesting journey.

'cause I actually started this journey about 40 years ago, 40 years

ago when I first got into sales.

The reason I got into sales, because I wanted to become a motivational

speaker, but I didn't want to become a motivational speaker where you

just say, Hey, I'm a motivational speaker, and I didn't do anything.

So I went and I started with the company.

I became number one in the company.

I did all the books and the tapes and you know, Tony Robbins and all these things.

Walked on the Firewalk.

And 40 years later in this journey, I finally did it after 40 years of

this long journey of this really successful as a salesperson.

So I got kind of life, kind of got got in the way, and so I stayed as

a financial professional for almost 40 years and about five years ago.

My wife looked at each other and says, Hey, won't you do

what you've always wanted to do?

Won't you really just do it?

And I did it.

And basically we took the step, took the leap, and now I became a mindset expert.

You know, I'm certified as a clinical hypnotherapist.

I'm certified in mental and emotionally released.

Neurolinguistic programming.

So all of these mindset concepts and these opportunities or, or these modalities

that I actually coaching love that.

And you think about it for most people, you know, it is always kind

of a battle with our own selves.

You know?

We get in our own way, we sabotage ourselves.

Yes.

And a lot of times we know it, but we don't really know why we

do it, or we don't always see it happening when we're doing it.

So let's talk a little bit about how you help people to stop doing that.

The first part of it is actually identifying the hidden blind spots.

It was funny, yesterday I was in my kitchen and I heard this little

bird tapping on my window, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap.

I'm like, what is that?

And I, I thought about it and I'm like, wow, this little baby bird does not have

the resources to understand that this is the window and therefore he can't see it.

Mm-hmm.

Right, and one of the challenges that most entrepreneurs and CEOs and

founders have is that they know they're trying to get from point A to point B,

but something is blocking their way.

Something is preventing them by actually making it through, just like this

little bird tapping on the window.

Tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap.

He didn't have the resources.

He knew that he saw something in my house that he wanted to get

to, but he could not figure it out what it was, and that's what I do.

Basically we figure out what is that thing that's driving your behavior

now that's preventing you from becoming who you truly want to be.

And I got to do a mini session with you.

Yeah.

And it was so fascinating because you take people back to where they've had

some sort of trauma or mini trauma or something, you know, that just.

Affected them on a subconscious level that they don't even know about.

Yes.

Basically that's, that's one of the most powerful things that I

do for my clients is basically.

Even for myself.

Lemme, lemme just give you a little bit about what happened with me.

We had the session with you.

I had the session with many people, hundreds of people, and they made

these tremendous breakthroughs, right?

And so, and then I'm looking at my life and I'm like, well, Curtis,

something is blocking your energy.

Something is preventing you from actually becoming the best version of yourself.

What is it?

And so I did the same thing.

I did a session of mental and emotional release with myself.

I didn't do it.

I had a professional come in.

You don't operate on yourself, guys.

You just don't do it.

A hard opera, a hard surgeon, don't open up his own chest.

He lets somebody else do that.

So basically, I, I called someone in within 10 minutes.

You, as you well know, it takes about 10 minutes or less that we

figure it out, that when I was two to, I accepted and decided that

success is hard and difficult.

So that program had been running in my, in the background of my

mind since two, not knowing that.

So every time I would become number one, I would sabotage.

Every time I would have an expansion in my business, I would sabotage.

I remember I was doing over a million dollars of revenue per year.

Lisa came to me and says, Curtis, this is so easy for you.

Wow, you just got this thing down.

And I looked at her.

I says, you don't understand.

This is hard and this is difficult.

And I found out that programming started when I was two, when I

was being potty trained by my mom.

My mom told me, this is what she told me when I went back

and asked her after the session.

I says, mom, what happened at age two?

This is what she said.

It was hard and difficult for you to be potty trained at 18 months.

The same language that I have been carrying around all of those times.

The same messaging and the same programming.

So that's what we do.

First we have to figure out what is it that one thing, the root cause

of that problem for you to act, actually release it and get rid of it.

And think about our poor parents.

Like your mom never meant to plant that negative seed in your subconscious mind.

No, and we have all these little things throughout our lives that happen and

sometimes they're, you know, they're not even, we're not even conscious

of them or they feel like such a no big deal on the surface, but at a

subconscious level, you know, because our subconscious is trying to keep

us safe and trying to keep us alive.

Yeah.

Yeah, and, and that's the whole idea is that, and you're so right, is that

the messaging is not to harm you.

The messaging is actually trying to to protect you, so it goes in safe mode.

That's why it always go back to knowns.

It goes back to what it knows, and this is the crazy thing about it.

Most of the programming that's running right now is from between zero and seven.

That's where we're like sponges.

We're like, this messaging is coming to us, and so we don't even remember.

Something that happened between, I didn't know at age two or 18 months

that I was having this challenge.

So this programming is running, so now how do you get rid of it?

How do you even recognize it?

And so it just takes a little time.

But with me, it takes minutes sometimes.

Yeah.

10 minutes or less we're free.

It's always the parents' fault.

My kids don't let it go in their subconscious.

They just tell me, you know, like you were talking about Kirsten, I think, you

know, just random things that get stuck.

Yes.

And, and my kids were like, they'll tell me things every now and again.

Oh, you told me this when I was in preschool.

And I'm like, yes.

Telling you, I've told you hundreds of thousands of things.

I have no idea which one stuck.

And that's the crazy thing about it, is that it, it's like the

challenge is it's not that.

First of all guys, the first thing I do in my sessions is make sure that people take

responsibility for where they are in life.

Right?

It's not my mom's fault.

That was the 2-year-old me figuring out that's what the messaging was.

It's like, think about it, and I, I just wrote an article that's coming out next

week is like, I'm writing an article now where, who's running your company?

Is it the 2-year-old me or is it the, the 60-year-old me?

Who's running my company because of the fact that we don't know.

We can't blame our parents.

Now we have the power and the resources to take control of our lives.

That's the beauty about where we're, wherever you are now in

your journey, is that you can take control of your own life.

You can make choices now to, to not accept that belief, but change it.

And that's the power of it.

That's identifying and eliminating those healing blind spots.

And then when you do that, you're in a better position to start taking action.

Oh, absolutely.

Absolutely.

And that's the challenges Most coaches.

Most coaches basically say, what do you want?

Right?

They start with the goal in mind.

Well, one of the challenges with that, not that it doesn't work, because obviously

a lot of people are very successful.

What it, what they do.

My philosophy is that.

If I can get rid of the baggage, now you can actually see clear about your goals.

Now you understand a clear vision because if I got baggage, if I'm

carrying around baggage and I set a goal to make a hundred thousand dollars

a year, but I'm carrying baggage every time I get close to making a hundred

thousand, I'm gonna sabotage because of the fact that I'm carrying baggage.

Let's get rid of the baggage so that now you can soar past the a hundred thousand

and going beyond that, because I'm not carrying old messaging that's actually

preventing me from having a clear vision.

That's how you align your vision with, with accelerated growth.

One of the things Jeanie and I have identified in ourselves is we

both, at some level, have that same programming that you've gotta work

hard and you've got, you know, yeah.

We would meet on Sundays and you know, we'd have a full five

day week and we'd stay busy.

And this year we just decided enough's enough.

We very seldom ever meet on a weekend, you know, unless there's something

like a vacation or something coming up that we have to kind of coordinate.

But we basically now take Fridays off.

We meet in the morning on Fridays to kind of talk about how the

week went, plan the next week.

And we pretty much now three day weekends.

And it's interesting 'cause I think since we implemented that.

We've been more productive.

Yes.

A lot more productive because you have a less, you have

less time to get things done.

And we're more strategic about how we use our time.

And I think the other way that Jeanie and I had both sabotaged in the past

would be to take too long to do things.

It was that perfectionist.

You know that?

Yes.

Do it, redo it, go over it.

And it was really funny.

We were getting certified for CE credits in real estate for some trainings

that we're doing up in Michigan.

The lady who was helping us get certified at the end of one of our trainings,

she finally just started laughing.

She's like, you guys spend way too much time doing this.

You know your stuff, you're great at it.

You could have had this thing done two weeks ago, and she didn't.

She wasn't being mean to us.

Right.

But it was truthful, right?

That it's that sometimes that perfectionism gets in the way,

and that's a form of sabotage.

So if you think about it, that's part of the pro, somewhere along in

the, in the background is running.

I have to be perfect.

Well, when I was in college.

Later in life.

'cause I went back and, and got my degree when I was thinking I was 50.

One of my professors said the best thing about writing is rewriting.

So he says, it doesn't really matter what you write the first time.

The beauty part about it is you can always rewrite it.

So that's where you can drop the perfectionism and knowing that

the next right is the right.

Right.

That, that you're writing.

So, so the whole idea though is, is that having that clear vision, so that,

and this is the thing I I love, what you just shared with, with the audience

is that you were working really hard, the, the whole ideal of having honing

in the power of your subconscious mind.

Is that now you are operating at a higher level, you are

more in flow than not, right?

Have you guys ever been working and all of a sudden everything

is just working right for you?

It is.

Like the people are showing up.

Well, yeah, you're in flow.

Well, what I help individuals do is stay in flow more often than not,

right, because now they understand that how the subconscious mind works

and how to continue to reprogram it so that it works more efficient for them.

Working hard is not the key.

It's not the strategy.

Basically working smart is more powerful than working hard, working

on the things that really matter.

The old 80 20, yeah, 20% of what I do is gonna give me 80% of the work.

But what most entrepreneurs do, we work 80% on stuff that doesn't really matter.

And that's one of the things that we kind of really stress.

That's how aligning the vision, right?

Getting rid of the baggage.

Aligning your vision so that now you can see sense and feel what I should be doing.

What is it that's actually coming up that's gonna drive true behavior?

I love that.

It's funny because we're doing helping people get a bookkeeping

virtual assistant, because we've done, Kirsten's got experience

in that and we've done that.

And um, it was funny.

That was the first thing that I outsourced and I didn't realize

how much that was stressing me out.

Every time I came into my office, I saw that stack of receipts and I felt

guilt and shame and you know, it's not that difficult, but I just didn't

do it 'cause I didn't want to do it.

And then once I handed that off to someone, I was like, oh my

gosh, I feel so much better.

Like, I feel lighter, I feel, you know, more creative because you've taken

that big boulder off your shoulder.

Yeah.

And that's kinda what it is though.

It's like, think about it and the one reason you was holding onto

it, like for your life is because.

You felt safe with it, right?

You felt like if I didn't do it, nobody else can do it.

Well, that's not fully true, and once you release it, you release the fact that hey,

someone else can do this, and now I could be more productive in doing other things.

It became evident.

Yeah, but after the fact.

Not during.

It was after the fact.

The whole idea is that one of it is the blind spot.

I have to hold onto it, and that's kind of what our subconscious

mind tells us is like, I got to hold onto it to make you safe.

But sometimes when it makes you safe, it actually limits you for

becoming the best version of yourself.

Once you start to grow.

My framework and which I, I coach from, is learning, growing,

expanding, and transforming.

Once you start to grow, you have growing pains.

That's why they call 'em growing pains because you're growing, you expanding.

You feel it.

You're gonna get a little bit uncomfortable to become more comfortable,

but it's never ending process.

So now the next question is, what's the next best thing you guys are gonna

be coming up with so you guys can grow your company and be coming even better.

Right?

It's so fun to think that we live in a time.

Where you're in California, I'm in Florida, Jeannie's in Virginia, where we

can build these fantastic relationships and work with people anywhere.

Like we just have all of these great tools and all of these great opportunities

and so I think it's easy to, like Jeannie, that wanna hold onto things.

It's also easy to want to do too many things.

Yeah.

And chase that shiny object syndrome.

And it's interesting because I think for us, we really have identified when we're

starting to kind of self-sabotage a little bit, we're we're starting to realize what

our, you know, and sometimes when it's a partnership, we can either hold each

other accountable and be better together.

Or if we have the same fear or self-sabotage, then it's like squared.

Yeah.

And so it's, it's, it's, it's big.

And so working with someone like you to really help get those blocks

cleared individually, but then also do you ever work with like business

partners to help them clear things?

I mean, not that we would have the same childhood problems or traumas

'cause we were raised separately.

Right.

You know, but there are like, you know, we've been in business, how long

have we been in business partners now?

15 years more than that.

20. Long time.

So there's probably some things we need to release there.

Yeah, well, basically you think about it, and this is my philosophy around

that, is that Kirsten, if I'm working with you and I'm working with Jeannie

separately, you going to become so, so much better that now you can

work together even more efficient.

See, because like you said before, one of the challenges that is that your baggage

is different than her baggage, right?

And her, her perception of the world is different than

your perception of the world.

And, but once you get a clear vision of who you are as an individual,

you're gonna show up differently and she's gonna show up differently.

And then, then I think one of the things you were talking about, you guys kept got

a ceiling that you keep hitting, right?

You're like, I'm here.

You're trying to get past that.

That means that that's an indication, that's potential baggage, right?

That we need to kind of work with so that now you can So past that.

So the beauty part about it is that we work with you individually first, and

then we find the commonality of what your business is gonna be needing.

And so now, because you understand her better, mm-hmm.

If you understand her values and she understand your values, then

now she can speak your language.

You know, we talked about me and Lisa, me and Lisa have been

married now for 34 years and, and I'm still working on this guys.

I mean, you know, I'm still working on it because of the fact that every

once in a while I have to speak her language in order for us to communicate.

And a one word just because you both say you want to grow, right?

We'll use that as an an example.

Use those both.

You say you wanna grow, that doesn't mean that you speaking

the same language, right?

That means you having very different Yeah.

You having the same label.

Grow, but the language behind it, you might be carrying some baggage around

growth that's harmful, and she might have a different language that's not,

and so you're gonna have a conflict.

So you need to understand when she says, I want to grow, and you

say you want to grow, now you're both speaking the same language.

Oh, when you say that, you mean X. And when I say that, I mean Y. So now how

can we make that what we want it to be, look like and feel like so we can grow.

But the biggest thing about it is once you started to throw out this baggage, right.

You, you have this alignment and you can have this accelerated growth.

It, it doesn't stop there.

This is where most people stop.

It's like, okay, I got it.

You know, you, you helped me make this transformation and like I have

no, that's when we're talking about number three conditioning, right?

It's so important.

Yeah.

How do you recommend people, you know, condition themselves?

You know, I, I know we get up every day.

I was, yeah.

I was working with a client yesterday and one of her goals

is to get to 30,000 a month.

Right, okay.

And so she's got that on her mirror.

And so when we were in our coaching session last night, which we had

over dinner, which was lovely.

On the water outside, it was.

And I said, well when you look at that 30,000, 'cause she's like, I

want it, but it just feels like, you know, grinding along, right?

And I said, well, when you look at that 30,000, what are you saying to it?

Why don't you say, I wanna do 30,000 a month with clients

who value and appreciate me.

If I wanna do 30,000 a month with clients who pay on time, I wanna

do 30,000 a month with clients who I can truly help transform

their business through what I do.

So like speaking out all the things that she wants, and then I have a solid

team that knows what to do and how to do it, when to do it, and they're

all responsible and they take action.

And that's made getting to this 30,000 so easy, right?

So I was like, speak to that little sticker about speaking

into existence without all the.

Turmoil.

Well, basically two things.

Number one, true.

Absolutely true.

Now, another one that, another step to that is, is that she

has to fill it in the body.

Yes.

And that a lot of people when they talk about affirmations and conditioning

is that they're speaking it, but they're speaking, and I want $30,000.

And the subconscious mind, like, no, the hell you don't.

Not really, not really, not really, you know, because you have not really

put it into the body where when you speak in it, it's like, I believe

it, I feel it, I know it's mine.

Right?

Not just saying it, but feel it.

And so what I, what I do for a lot of my clients says when we, when

we figure out what the baggage is, we get rid of the baggage.

We align their goals of $30,000 or more per month with clients that I love and

the desire who wants to work with me.

Then we program that.

So that now I create what I call bespoke daily mental supplements where where

they hear my voice and basically kind of every day programming that message.

Skin over and over and over repetition.

Basically.

Now the subconscious mind begins to believe it.

It's like the, the reticulate activating system in our minds then start to see

sense and feel that this is mine and it start to gravitate and start to manifest

things to us because it's bringing those things to us that we've never seen before.

It's, it's almost like once you buy a new car.

Yeah, you've never seen that, that color car before, but you

think you have something unique.

Oh my god.

I remember I bought my Range Rover a few years ago.

I had a Black Range Rover with leather seats and yada, yada, yada.

I'm like, man, this is unique car.

Then all of a sudden, everywhere I drove here in Orange County, everybody

has the same freaking car because now my Yes is focusing on the fact that

everybody that is there, it's possible.

And that's kind of what you're doing is the programming is not

just seeing it, but when you see it.

Stop and take a deep breath and allow herself to really feel it.

Yeah.

You know, I feel the 30,000 coming to me.

I see it and I sense it.

I feel like when the clients are coming to me, what I'm gonna feel like, what

it's gonna be like, so that now the body and the mind is connected so

that they really, truly can have that breakthrough that they really want.

I love that.

I remember seeing someone talking about that, and they said the process

of that is so exciting and and wonderful and challenging as well.

Yes.

But they said, when you can get yourself to the point that you are a hundred

percent in, and you already believe that when it actually happens, it's

like, oh yeah, I already knew that.

I know that was coming.

Yeah.

Oh, basically, it's like, I think Venezuela talked about the

fact that it's just like drill.

See, this is the thing about the power of the subconscious vine.

It doesn't know the difference between reality and fantasy.

And, and this is the scary part about it.

The scary part about it is that it doesn't know the difference

between reality and, right.

Yeah.

That, that means, and this is the catch guy.

This is the thing is that, that's why this is one of the things

I always tell my client, be careful about what you listen to.

This is what's happening in the world right now, and I'll leave with

this, is that these pharmaceutical commercials are normalizing.

Sickness.

Mm-hmm.

Yep.

And look at what they do.

You remember we talked about they make you feel it.

They have music that's playing in the background that we

played when we were a child.

When we were a child.

These upbeat music.

And we are up there dancing to it and moving and grooving with it.

And then they letting us know, just take the medication.

You'll be okay.

Just do this.

You'll be all right.

And oh, it's okay to have this and it's okay to have this.

Take the medication.

Basically, they're normalizing it and they keep doing it.

They are conditioning us.

Conditioning the world that that's what it is.

Well, we need to use that against them.

We need to use that for ourselves when we wanna become successful.

It's the same thing is that play some music, move with it knowing that I want

this $30,000 and groove with it and put it into the body, so not the body.

Now put, see, sense, and feel it that it's yours.

And it's so important that this is where a lot of people drop the ball.

They come to me, we have a transformation, and then they stop doing what I

ask them to do on a daily basis.

Just like brushing your teeth, you don't brush your teeth today and

says, I'm not gonna brush 'em no more.

No dental hygiene is the daily activity that you have to do.

Working on your mind is a daily activity.

You need to wake up.

As soon as you get up, you need to start now programming yourself.

It's gonna be a great day.

What's your intentions?

How can I make it a great day?

I can see sense and feel clients coming to me.

So now you are programming on a daily basis.

That's where the conditioning comes in at.

I love that.

Yeah, it's, somebody described it as, you know, when water travels down,

it will create a deep, each time it goes down, it makes a deeper path.

And so your mind and your body wanna go back to that path.

'cause that's what it knows.

Yes.

And that's, you know, where it's been.

So that totally makes sense that it, you know, if you're gonna change that in a

positive way, you've gotta do something every day to, to get yourself into the

right path and not the crooked path.

Absolutely.

And that's the thing about it.

And if you stop, it's gonna always go back to the least resistant it easily

go back to what you've always done.

'cause it knows that.

It's like, I'm comfortable with that.

I feel safe.

You know, that's what kept me safe for.

All my life, and now I want to go back to it.

So, uh, oh my God.

Yeah, this is good.

Curtis, you're amazing.

So if people wanna get in touch with you, and I highly recommend that you

reach out to Curtis and work with him.

I've had one session and looking forward to another in the future.

So how can people get in touch with you, Curtis?

Basically they can, they can reach me on, on LinkedIn.

I'm on all social media platforms.

I'm on LinkedIn, I'm on Facebook, I'm on YouTube, I'm on all the social media.

Just DM me and says, Hey Curtis, I saw you on the, on the podcast.

Let's have a conversation.

Let's have a cup of coffee.

I mean, I'm, that's what I figure out.

Let's start with I'm the old fashioned guy.

You know, I'm like, I'm so sick and tired of people telling me what to do.

This is me.

I'm an old fashioned guy from Mississippi and I believe in hospitality.

The first thing I want to do with you is just have a cup coffee

that says, Hey, how you doing?

And what is, what's happening in your life?

And how can I help and support you?

Because it really doesn't matter if I can help you or not.

If you don't like me and trust me and know that I can do the job for

you, nothing's gonna happen anyway.

So let's just have a cup of coffee.

We'll maybe put the link for a clarity call, a coffee call, whatever you want

to do, let's put a link down here.

And we, they can kind of click on that and says, Hey, I wanna have a cup of coffee

because of this, or whatever you are.

And let's just have a, a conversation.

Perfect.

I love that.

Curtis, thank you so much.

No, you're welcome.

You are welcome.

It's been my pleasure.

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