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Welcome back to Katching Up With Katie. I think it's been a few weeks honestly because we've been traveling. Just so much has been happening. So I brought on my crippled employee Rachel to talk because in the events that we're going to talk about in this episode, she wasn't crippled. She was actually very helpful and amazing and it was awesome. We went to Ocala. We had a great time at the horse show. Unfortunately, Lindsey was sick like the day of us leaving. And so Rachel had to hop on a plane and head to Florida. And so it all worked out. But we'll talk about that a little bit, but first I think we just need to address the crippledness. So what what happened? What happened? Um, my horse bucked me off. Was it user error?

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Yes. No. Maybe. I don't know. Like so he just got injections and I think he was feeling really good and he we usually do a lot of hill work and we were racing up a hill me and my friend. Oh.

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Uh huh. And he just got real happy. Okay. For the folks back home, they're not supposed to do that. So what ailment did it cause when you fell off? Tell us the verdict from the doctor.

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It's a transverse process fracture. It's the little bone that comes off your spine.

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I did that same thing. Yeah, but I was 18. I wasn't 40. When I was 18 I had a little poor Shorty who was like a little cow pony. He was like I don't even know if he was 14 hands, but his back was this short. Like he was so short backed and then his butt was this big, you know, like he was just like this huge chunky pony. And so he got me off. I won't go into the whole story and turn it about me, but same thing transverse process which they're like since it's only fractured and it's not completely broken, you don't need surgery, but it's just going to hurt.

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Yeah. And it does. Yeah, it does. So in your case, you went to the doctor like the next day.

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My mom made me go to school for a week before she would take me to the doctor.

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So anyway, I was supposed to be — this is what I told her. I was like, I've done this before and I was younger when this happened. So it's even more important that you listen. I was on a horse within a month with my back brace on. You can't do that. You can't do that. And years later I went to the chiropractor and because I had never gone back for adjustments or had never done PT or anything my muscles had, you know, formed around how my spine was and because of the impact my spine had like rotated. So then my muscles are just like keeping it there.

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Yeah. And so if you go get things fixed early, earlier the better. Yeah. How soon can you go get adjusted?

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I'm not telling you that. Your doctor's going to tell you that.

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But you get messed up that way too. Yeah. I waited like years. Yeah. And so let's see. This happened in February. I went to the Dixie Nationals, which is usually in February because I had to qualify for the world show and qualifying ended in May and we only had so many shows and I needed like a lot of points. And so I remember going to the horse shows for that first like four months and literally like getting on, undoing my back brace, doing the class,

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crying by the end of it. Yeah. Back brace back on. Doing like nothing at the show because looking back I'm like just not smart.

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I proposed to my wife in a back brace actually, never forget,

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because I was like in the house with my roommates and whatnot and I couldn't do anything. We had been dating for like two months by the way which is a little bit of lore. But I was like laying in my bed and I remember I'll never forget it. I was listening to Marry Me by Train. That was our wedding song. A little tear ran down my eye and I was like, you know what? I'm going to Walmart. And I went to Walmart like I stuffed like a bunch of ice packs down my back brace and I like hobbled into the car, which I don't recommend either. I got in the car like I can't turn around and look behind me and whatnot. So I'm totally relying on my mirrors. And I went to Walmart and I'm like hanging on the cart just putting like some Christmas lights and whatnot. And by myself in the back brace, I decorated my room with like a bear and Christmas lights and all that good stuff.

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I thought you meant you went to Walmart to get the ring. Me too. We used her grandmother's ring. Okay. Why were you in a back brace? Because I had back surgery. It worked out though because now he's having another baby, by the way. Well, he's not, but his beautiful wife is like really soon.

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But anyway, we all have messed up backs. It's great. We're all just in our youth and most of us not in our 20s. Well Rachel, how old are you?

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34.

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I keep forgetting you're so much younger than me because I'm about to be 30. I'm about to be 30 in like two years. How old are you?

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I think I'm either going to be 28 or 29 this year.

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What year were you born? 97. You're a year younger than me. I was born in 91. I know. And I think Becca was 90. Yeah. Oldies. Old birds.

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I will say as a 29 year old I do not get around like a 29 year old. If I sit here like this I get up and I'm like — we match, hobble around.

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So but that's what I'm saying like I still have bad back stuff. So don't do that. Learn from me. I was dumb. But you're young. So it's such an inconvenient injury that just can't do anything and if you're somebody that does a lot of stuff I couldn't even put laundry away.

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Yeah. I was almost in tears.

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Okay. Also this pissed me off the day you got to work. She was being weird but it was a busy morning so I was like whatever. And so she was being weird and then she was like hey I have a doctor's appointment today that I forgot about. Can I get off early? I was like yeah I don't care. Sure. Then she comes in the next day and she doesn't even tell me. Who tells me?

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I sent you a text. Yeah, you sent me a text that night. That's what it was. With the paperwork that said I fractured my spine.

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It was — I was at dinner. You get a doctor's note. I did give her a doctor's note. What was I at dinner for? The funeral. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. We had a whole thing. So we were at dinner with like family and I get this text and I was like, okay, what the heck? Like I think I was like how? And so the next day we were like don't do anything like good lord because she insisted on coming to work. That's my whole Snapchat is everyone being like you're such a terrible boss for making her come to work. I'm like hey —

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Don't you get — which is why she did it though. Yeah. You're welcome.

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Because she does have lots to do where she can just sit and hang out but I can't stay at home. If I stayed at home I'd be so depressed. I would sit there in my misery to come to work.

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I do. But she did that day. She looked so miserable. And so I was like, call your husband right now. Because the only way I could comfortably lounge when I broke mine was like we're a lazy boy family. We always had like a recliner in our living room and that's where I slept.

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But I have a smaller one. So I was like come get it. So Reese came and got the smaller recliner. That's when you see her TikToks lounging. And it's my recliner. But we had one that was like bigger than this. Like it was really big. And so I just like pillowed it up and made it and it laid back really far and that's where I slept for weeks.

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Yeah. I didn't have a husband to roll me over at that point at night. It's where I've been resting.

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And now back to the video. And we're back. So let's talk about Ocala. So that was an unexpected trip for you. We were, you know, so excited for Florida, for the fact that I'd

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be showing for the first time in I couldn't tell you how long. I had a new horse that we were

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meeting and I was also training with people that I've like looked up to for like my entire life. And then we were gonna go to Universal and like there was so much fun stuff. So I'm gonna ask

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you both. What was your favorite part of the trip? Okay. My — because Matt didn't get to go

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to Universal. Unfortunately, he only came for the first half because he has a cooler other part of his job and he had to leave and go be with a band. But I have two. Just being at WACO in general

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is like that's like a childhood dream for me. Amazing. It's only been there two years. Well,

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just like being at like a big show. Okay. Like a giant show with all the trainers there and

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all the amazing horses. Yeah. Like the $100,000 trail watching that. That was insane. Yeah,

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that was insane. And then I got to meet Phil Harris, which — Bill I love you. But that's

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hilarious because I've just talked to them my whole life.

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Well, you're so cool. I'm just a little ol' girl from Montana, you know?

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It's really — don't you forget it. But it is cool going to those horse shows though and seeing how — because I had that realization this show as well about like certain trainers

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where it's like they're just people that are goofy and like they all have — they're just

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really good at what they do which makes us idolize them and makes us put them on a pedestal but then they're just like really good people you know and they're

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really kind and it's really cool. So like my whole thing was like working with

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High Point. Yeah. Sure. I've had my stallions with them. I've still had them up here, which I still

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have them up here, don't get that wrong. But when I as a youth kid can remember

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watching the youth girls that were with High Point and the amateurs with High Point and like, you know, they were back in the day when I was showing they were showing Vital Signs. They were

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showing Harley D Zip. They were showing all these ridiculously amazing iconic horses. And so in my

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head like they don't mess up. No, they don't like, oh well they don't do that, you know. And so then

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hearing all the stories. So like Hollywood, my new horse, nothing compares. He's 18. He's been there,

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done that. The trials and tribulations that made him into that been there, done that horse. Like

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Charlie was telling me he was like we had to take him to this show for five years before we could get him shown because he kept spooking at that one spot in the arena. And so we would just

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pet him through it and I'm like, you know, it just really humanizes

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and brings you back to earth that like we're all doing the same thing. Everyone messes

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up. Everyone has like this journey. Nothing's just perfect from the get-go. And it was

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really cool to sit and chat like that. But Matt, what was your favorite?

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I was gonna let that slide and bring it up at the end. I was like, I didn't get to say what my favorite was.

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I did actually enjoy this one a lot more than last time because we were actually doing stuff. Yeah,

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I think so. I don't know. I enjoyed the drive. Oh my. I enjoyed it all. I enjoyed the vibe of this one a lot

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better. Well, in the years past, it's like I was just I wanted to go to a first show so bad. So we'd go and we'd watch Denver or whatever. And

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Ocala last year, he got hurt right before like he got that abscess or whatever. And it was like, oh, he can't go. And so then it was like, oh, we're just gonna — I guess we got to go. We bought all

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the things. And so we just hung out and tried to make the best of it. And so actually having things

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that were like — I don't know — have to be there for, included in — and like I mean I enjoyed showing.

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Yeah. But yes it was cool to have like someone to root for. Yeah. And then at

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the next horse show we go to it's going to be very fun. Like we just went to one already which we'll do a whole other thing about that. But I'm gonna get Rebecca on here and talk about like her

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coming back to that horse show. But the next one we go to where I'll be showing Hollywood, we're taking Kennedy, we're taking Molly, Denver's going to be there. Hollywood's going to be there.

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Like it's just going to be all of them. So it's gonna be a lot. It's gonna be a lot. Yeah. It's going to be like quick change. Well, I don't even know if that though because like

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I don't know that I'll show Kennedy really more than the pleasure or maybe the horsemanship. So it's like she's a one or two class horse and then Molly's just going to be riding around and

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then Denver is going to be showing in the western riding and I might show him in a pleasure class. I don't know yet. And then Hollywood, I'm only doing the western riding and trail. And so at

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those big shows because there's a lot more people it's spread out. Usually it's not like you have a

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lot more time. Yeah. And it's beautiful there. It's at Lexington Horse Park.

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Never been. It's amazing. It's like we went last year. Yeah. And it's like mostly outside which is my favorite.

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I love showing outside. It's pretty. So yeah, back to Ocala. We're just jumping everywhere. I

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forgot how to do this thing. We haven't even filmed one of these in a minute. I showed —

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I won. I was the circuit champion in the novice amateur western riding and then by default I was

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the circuit champion in the amateur western riding because circuit champion is when — so at this

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show there was two sets of judges because you can't show to more than four judges at a time.

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So in order for a show to like be worth it, people want to go and get as many points and show

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to as many judges as they can. So they usually do like three and three or whatever. And so a circuit

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championship is the cumulative winner of like all the judges. And so you have to show to

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all of them to win it. And I was the only one that showed both days in the amateur and didn't school.

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Like everybody else in at least one of their rides schooled and got disqualified. So still counts. That is how I won. A win is a win. I know. I kept saying that at the show and they were like,

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don't tell people that. Just take the W. I loved going to see the miniature horses as well.

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We went and saw Jack. Yeah. And Gretchen. It was just nice weather. It was beautiful.

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Were you shocked by any of like the mini stuff like at the trainer?

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The baby was really tiny. They always take me by surprise whenever you see one how tiny they are. We're about to have

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another one. Yeah, I know. Like here, stupid. If you didn't know. Yep. Cat's out of the bag now.

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I was going to wait till the end to reveal her. But she's here. She's always here. Anyway, that's

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why you're not a horse show dog, Kimmy. She'd be too loud. She'd bark at everything.

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Anyway, I had a great time. Getting back into the show pen, I do realize like I'm not

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nearly as versed in the trail as I am the western riding. The western riding I felt back at home,

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you know? It's like Hollywood feels so much like my longtime show partner Calvin. Not at the trot,

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but at the lope. It's like it's really big. You're just pushing the whole time. Like it's great. And

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the trail because his trot sucks. I can say it. Like he just doesn't have like a lot of lift in

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his trot and it just feels gross. It looks better than it feels and so in the trail getting him

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like over the poles and having enough impulsion like it just — you have to work really hard and I didn't quite figure it out by the end of it. So we've got to go back. But that was your second

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time riding him. First? Yeah. So the show was my first time riding. So I've got to

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go back to Texas sometime soon to go ride both him and Denver hopefully before

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we go to the show. So like next week. Next week. Yeah. Aaron said he wanted me

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to come after the Madness. They're at the Madness right now. So it would be probably next week and I'd probably go for like two days in the middle of the week. So yeah. Were you like nervous going in

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to your classes? Yeah, not really. I don't know. Uh, false. I heard you barf that

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one morning. Yeah. Yeah, we can talk about that a bit. Let's talk about that. That was not because

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I didn't feel nerves though. Like I think my body was maybe nervous, but my mind wasn't,

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if that makes sense. So like I got queasy that morning while I was getting ready. Yeah. Like the first morning that I showed. And I did. This is right after Lindsey said she was sick.

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Yeah. And then the next day I hear you barfing in the bathroom. But it was just because I think

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I got a little worked up. But then like really going into any show I won't say

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that I won't ever get nervous again because who knows? But I think ever since I've been like 16,

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I kind of conquered that. I don't know why. I don't know how, but like I kind of conquered that of like if you're nervous, you're going to suck, you know? And so you just can't be nervous

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and you can't put too much pressure on it. Like I think a lot of people probably would have put

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a lot of pressure on like, okay, I haven't shown at this level in a decade. I'm going in on a new

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horse. I'm like being trained by Charlie Cole. And it was so fun. He's gonna like roll his eyes at that. Like hearing that he's gonna be like, why are you saying that? But like seriously,

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he's such a big deal. And like I am so excited that I get the little bit of time that I do being

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trained by him. And so like there was a lot of things on that and then the fact that I put myself

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out there to so many people and a lot of people are praying on my downfall. Yes. That I, you know,

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I think I very much could have gotten nervous, but I'm just like, what's that going to help? I don't

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know. Like, that's wild. That's just not going to help anything. So we're just laugh it off if it

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sucks. I don't know. I mean, yeah. So I think I was okay on that because the western

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riding truly like — and you can watch the video. I don't know how they were going to edit it because I haven't seen it yet. But like I wish I was miked up during it because every time I'd walk

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in I would just go — I could visually see you doing that. Yeah. And just let it out and then we're

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good and we'll just — yeah. She locks in. Yeah. But I also black out like at the end of it I'm like

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what just happened? It's like I'm back because I just black out. Couldn't tell you. Go into show

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mode. But that is something that like I'm grateful I had all the background even though I've

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had such a big break because that is helpful when you get into it. You just — it just comes with time.

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Yeah. But a lot of people that have followed don't know show Katie like they don't know

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me as someone that like knows how to ride or knows how to show. And so I am excited though to be like

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I know how to do that. I know what to do. I know how to do that. I'm back. Like I don't suck,

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you know? Like I'm not saying I'm the best, but I don't suck. So I'm excited. I think it'll be

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fun. Hollywood's so honest and so fun and I'm very grateful for the opportunity to ride such a horse. Like, he's the type of horse where we at a horse show and you meet people because of him,

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which that's how my old show gelding was, too. Like, he had just been around the block so much because I got him when he was 16. And so I would meet trainers, I would meet judges, I'd meet

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people because they'd be like, is that Calvin? And so same thing with Hollywood. They're like, you're going to have so much fun on Hollywood. And yeah, it's fun.

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You did get to do a little twirl on him.

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I did. But side note, I did not have spurs, so he is very hard to get

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moving. He is so lazy. Like I was digging my heels in. I don't know if you can tell when I'm riding

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with spurs how hard I'm working to get him to just like keep a pace, but it's hard. Yeah, it's very

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different, too. And that's why I'm like I'm just having to go through the trenches at the beginning

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because it'll be really good later going between him, Denver, Kennedy, Ethel, like all these horses

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that I'm trying to show are like so different. All so different. And so coming back into it, that's definitely adding a difficulty factor, but once you get through it, then you're like,

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oh, I can ride anything. So Hollywood is like dead. You're having to just like push the whole

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time. You're having to like work every single step that you're on that horse. But that's actually my

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favorite. I love working the whole time. I want to be pushing and know what I have. Denver's

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like kind of the perfect medium, honestly. Like Denver's just perfect. You're able to push him,

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you're able to use your feet, you're able to use

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your seat, but he's not — you don't have to take everything out of yourself to keep him going, but

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he's also like a little forgiving if you're like a little off on timing or a little whatever. Not

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quite as forgiving as Hollywood. Hollywood's like, I know what you want. Fine. He's still young, so

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you still have to know your timing. Then there's Kennedy. Kennedy, and I'm sure she'll get better

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as it goes with training and her being back in the swing of things. Kennedy is like, if I

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put my foot, can we please lope off? Please. You think she says please? No, I say please. Oh. Oh.

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Oh. Oh. I'm like, I say please to Kennedy. Kennedy is like, you put your foot an inch too far back.

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I'm going to tell everyone. Like she's so sensitive and so unforgiving, but she's fine,

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but it's a whole different feel. It's a whole different feel. And then Ethel is like, yeah,

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she's a whole different feel as well, but she's got this like different cadence to her where it's like she's really big and lofty, but she gets real trashy if you don't keep her belly up. So then

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you're just working to keep like lift on Ethel. But you can use a lot of leg on Ethel, too. I

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don't know. They're all just completely different. None of them are necessarily like run away with

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you type horses. So we got that going for them. They're all like — they're not going to just

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run off, but yeah, it's been fun getting back into it. So we'll have to

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continue on the horse show path. I know. I don't think people when I told them I was getting back

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into horse showing, I don't think they knew that I meant like — yeah. No, we're — I mean every month we

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have a horse show. Matt, did it give you the horse show bug?

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It gave Nate the horse show bug. Yeah.

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To like enjoy them, not to participate in them. I like — I would encourage me to find out when we

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went to the shops that like there were people that went and got like English like show attire just to

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like walk into the hotel and like be a part — like there were people that did that. They did. Yeah, that's what the shop lady said. Like people do it all the time because I expressed my interest

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of like I would do — I would just get the outfit and just walk around because I think I told you to do

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that. I think the outfit is great for Kentucky. Can he have an outfit?

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I told you. I've offered

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so many times to get you a cowboy hat.

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Not a cowboy hat. The English like the breeches. It's

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so interesting that that's where you gravitated towards.

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I just I love the way that looks. Very sharp. And I would get the outfit just to have the outfit. Like you'd wear the breeches around.

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Yeah. And the lady at the shop encouraged me by saying that people do that all the time. I think

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you should for Kentucky. But then I might get some questions that I'm not prepared to answer.

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Well, that's fine. What size shoe do you wear?

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I got some boots.

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12.

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Never mind. Come on, Rachel. Let's

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be honest. We know that works. I'm just — I don't know. It just surprises me. And it's fine that you

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gravitate towards the English side of things. Like I like — who was I telling the other day or

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yesterday or the day before or whatever — that like I wish like Rebecca's outfit that you saw at the horse show like the helmet, the jacket — like I would do western stuff that you do if like but

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I would want like a trench coat type thing like a wider type trench coat. I'm so sorry. Why does this keep going off?

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Because you have your sounds on.

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Yeah. Okay, I got it. Got it.

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You'd want the trench coat.

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Yeah, I'd want it to look like — what kind is that like Morgan? Yeah. They have the

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trench like you know nice like nice vest tie like bolo tie or like bow tie thing situation trench

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coat like box trot. I don't know because it's the — I also think about that in like the

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when I do like the national NWTF like turkey calling championships and whatnot and I look up there and I see all those guys like I would want to be — whether it's that like a horse show like

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something like that I would want to be somebody that like oh this is that guy he's like he dresses sharp he's just different like I would go up there like in the National Wild Turkey Federation with

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like Converse and like skinny jeans and people would be like whoa and then I'd rock it right and then people would know me immediately not as one of those other people, but like people remember

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that guy. Yeah, that would be that at the horse show. Like he may have placed sixth or eighth or

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not placed at all, but he looked great. He looks sharp. Looks sharp.

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I also love the English get up. I've got to find some because I want to get back into it so bad. Like honestly I've been kind of toddling around on Kennedy at home like an eq horse. I don't

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think she'd do the hunter saddle, but like the eq. I love a pattern. Eq is my thing. Actually, y'all don't know that about me. Y'all don't even know me.

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I was surprised. Y'all don't even know me. How quickly you memorize the pattern. Even the trail pattern when you did it backwards. Like

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y'all practiced it backwards and then for you to go in and do it correctly.

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Because my brain only knows horses and showing and breeding. I don't know anything else. I don't know

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how to get — I still had to use my directions to get to Murfreesboro all week. I don't know anything

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else. I'm like — the amount of things where I'm like — my brain, you can tell it to me all day

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long. I won't understand it, but you can show me a pattern and I can go show it. Like my brain —

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once and you're like okay got it. And I'm like my brain filled up too early. And it's

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only with horse show things. It's not with —

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It's not necessarily useless because that's kind of

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your job.

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Thank God. Thank God. Like there weren't too many other options. Like it would not have

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worked out like my brain doesn't work with anything else. And so I do want to do the eq. I've got to

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find a place to do it if y'all have any suggestions. I've got to find a place to get custom boots made

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because I got weird looking calves. I got weird measurements. I got to get a new coat. I got

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to get a new helmet. I used to show in a Charles Owen. I feel like that's probably still good. But said that they wanted to maybe do a little saddle something. And I got to get like a fitter out and

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whatever. I do have a CWD that I could just go ahead and start riding in. But I've got to

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protect my knees. So I got to get some — because my knees were hurting after this horse show this

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past weekend. So yeah, we're just getting old. We should get you injected. When's Dr. Matt

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coming out? Can we do that? I don't know. I feel like you have to. I know there's like a little HA.

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Yeah. Yeah, let's do it. Hyaluronic acid. All right. Well, you heard it here. I'm getting back

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into the English pen. I don't know when, but I do need help getting my attire back because I have

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nothing. I have nothing. And I'm starting from scratch on that. So maybe shops in Kentucky start.

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Yeah. Shops. True. True. All right. First show of the year was a success. The second one was also

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a success, but I'm going to talk about that one with Rebecca. So stay tuned for that. And let us know any questions you want me to ask for that one. And now we're just waiting on miniature baby

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horses. We're going to more horse shows. We did have a baby goat. So stay tuned for that video

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and see you in the next one. And so if you missed it, goodbye. Surprised. You don't even look real.