Ladies and gentlemen, please put your hands together for
Speaker:our 100,000 supporters.
Speaker:Except it seems only the front row showed up.
Speaker:That's the reality here. You're grinding away on LinkedIn,
Speaker:chasing that six figure follower badge. You
Speaker:don't get a badge for having 100,000 followers, but you know what I mean. You
Speaker:post, you rack up the likes, you screenshot
Speaker:those analytics and they look fantastic. And then you
Speaker:publish a fresh podcast episode and your
Speaker:download numbers barely twitch. So in this
Speaker:episode, I'm destroying the Myth that having 100,000
Speaker:followers on LinkedIn equals having
Speaker:100,000 potential listeners. In fact,
Speaker:spoiler alert, you'll be lucky to convert 100 downloads.
Speaker:Let's explore this funnel and run the actual math, shall we?
Speaker:Now look, I'm going to say this right now. This episode is going to be
Speaker:triggering for a few people on LinkedIn, mostly
Speaker:because it flies in the face of the beliefs they
Speaker:have that having a large number of followers on LinkedIn
Speaker:has any bearing whatsoever on how successful
Speaker:your podcast is going to be, let alone how
Speaker:successful you actually are having hundreds of thousands of followers on
Speaker:LinkedIn. But that's another topic for another day.
Speaker:And by the way, when I say a few people, I mean
Speaker:a very specific few people. Look, I'm not
Speaker:going to name names here, but I will tell you a true story to
Speaker:set this up. Around two or three years ago, I was slowly
Speaker:building in for myself on LinkedIn as a podcasting expert,
Speaker:trying to mix it with all the artificially famous podcast
Speaker:gurus, you know, that were in the engagement pods,
Speaker:making sure they were seen in the feed. On the
Speaker:face of it, they all had an unfair advantage.
Speaker:Every post they wrote about podcasting was
Speaker:guaranteed hundreds of likes, thousands of
Speaker:comments because their fake followers and AI triggered
Speaker:bot accounts were all primed to do so. But what they were
Speaker:writing was mostly absolute garbage.
Speaker:So I did what I do. I wrote contrary stuff
Speaker:that called out the BS and exposed the self
Speaker:serving lies, and that got the attention of a particular
Speaker:British LinkedIn person with hundreds of thousands of followers
Speaker:who jumped into my DMs. We got onto the subject of her
Speaker:starting a podcast and she said she was keen to do it,
Speaker:but needed to get organized. Here's the thing. She seemingly
Speaker:had no interest in engaging the skills of an expert
Speaker:like myself and just wanted someone to edit it.
Speaker:Now, that's not my ballpark. I mean, I do edit for my
Speaker:clients as part of the service offering, but I don't just
Speaker:edit. There's no point. I know I'm not going to get them results
Speaker:if I'm simply editing their shows. And a big part of what I
Speaker:do is helping them market their podcasts. So I asked her
Speaker:how she was planning on marketing her podcast, how
Speaker:she was planning on getting audience for a show. She responded
Speaker:in a rather sassy way with I have more than 100,000
Speaker:followers, Neil. She then sneered and
Speaker:seemed shocked when I dismissed that outright and
Speaker:pressed on again around what plans she had to get audience for
Speaker:her show. Needless to say, she doesn't work
Speaker:with me on her podcast, and the person she does work
Speaker:with is a member of her community group who
Speaker:is, I'm just gonna say it,
Speaker:completely clueless. For a start, he's known to use
Speaker:bot listeners to launch podcasts for new clients and therefore
Speaker:make it look like the shows are far more popular than they actually
Speaker:are. Well, of course they look popular. They've got hundreds of
Speaker:downloads straight away. It takes time to build an audience.
Speaker:And sure enough, this person's podcast is hosted on
Speaker:a platform that shows download numbers
Speaker:publicly, and I feel fully vindicated whenever
Speaker:I look at them on the landing page. The 100,000
Speaker:followers has translated to an average of
Speaker:100 listeners per episode. Well,
Speaker:frankly, downloads, that doesn't mean they're all listening.
Speaker:Now, this episode isn't intended as a told you
Speaker:so or an excuse for me to gloat about how someone
Speaker:dismissed my expertise and then went on to work with a direct
Speaker:competitor who sucked because her ego was
Speaker:bruised. No, that's not the plan. Although
Speaker:that aspect of this is quite cathartic.
Speaker:This episode's about helping you understand the reality around one
Speaker:impact social media has on your ability to grow
Speaker:an audience for your podcast. And by the end of the
Speaker:episode, I'll help you understand how you can quickly
Speaker:and easily make a LinkedIn account with 100,000
Speaker:followers relatively redundant in any
Speaker:case, when it comes to growing your show. To do
Speaker:that, first of all, we need to get out my podcasting
Speaker:calculator. My
Speaker:phone will do. Let's calculate the feed exposure.
Speaker:LinkedIn shows organic posts are roughly 5% of your followers on day
Speaker:one, so 100,000 times
Speaker:0.05 equals
Speaker:5,000 impressions doesn't seem very
Speaker:high. I mean, I can buy 5,000 impressions on
Speaker:Meta relatively easily for about a tenner. So of those
Speaker:5,000, the average outbound link click through
Speaker:is 0.6%. Let's assume we've ran the tests.
Speaker:That's 30 clicks to your podcast's landing page
Speaker:on a good day. What about landing page to audio player
Speaker:click? Usually around about 50%. So
Speaker:we're down to 15 actual plays. So Apple
Speaker:and Spotify complete rate, let's be generous here.
Speaker:70% to count as a download. So the result,
Speaker:10 downloads. Reality check here.
Speaker:10 from 100,000
Speaker:followers. That's not a funnel, it's a bloody
Speaker:calendar. By the way, I'm not making these stats up. These stats
Speaker:are actually from the Social Insider Insider LinkedIn benchmark
Speaker:report for 2025. Lest you think I'm
Speaker:just making this all up to prove a point,
Speaker:let's do a case study. Let's talk about Paula,
Speaker:someone I have first hand experience of helping. We're gonna call her Paula.
Speaker:She had 102,000 followers. Now last Tuesday
Speaker:she posted her episode link with the classic
Speaker:new podcast is out graphic. Let's audit that
Speaker:because I have access to her LinkedIn through our CMS
Speaker:metrical and I can tell you these stats
Speaker:for a fact. And remember, this is someone with
Speaker:102,000 followers on LinkedIn
Speaker:impressions. 4000 link
Speaker:clicks, 29 attributable
Speaker:downloads within 24 hours
Speaker:1212
Speaker:from 102,000 followers.
Speaker:Paula, like many thought LinkedIn was a golden goose.
Speaker:Turns out it's a paper swan playing a
Speaker:rusty trombone. Sorry, could resist.
Speaker:Now here's the good news. You can nudge those numbers without buying
Speaker:fake listeners like our friend managing the other podcast
Speaker:resorted to doing in order to get the first 1,000
Speaker:listeners on their trailer.
Speaker:So here's my advice on how you can use LinkedIn to try and grow a
Speaker:podcast. Upload a 60 second audiogram.
Speaker:LinkedIn actually boosts native media three times over
Speaker:external links, so you might as well stick your call to action
Speaker:inside the actual visual image so LinkedIn can't hide
Speaker:that in the comments. Second option is an Auto DM
Speaker:funnel, so end posts with comment if you want the
Speaker:link, then auto dm. Those who buy with a direct tap
Speaker:to subscribe Apple link average clicks jump to about 8%
Speaker:among warm leads that way. You're going to need to look into those
Speaker:auto DM softwares though I think ManyChat maybe helps
Speaker:LinkedIn people. The third option, private RSS
Speaker:feed for your LinkedIn community. Now it's a bit of
Speaker:work, but you could offer bonus content only available in a
Speaker:private feed to people from your LinkedIn
Speaker:because FOMO can drive audience and if you've got
Speaker:100,000 followers you might as well. Oh, and
Speaker:fourthly, UTM the living out of everything
Speaker:use unique UTM tags so your host analytics
Speaker:stop lumping LinkedIn traffic under other or get
Speaker:smart and use a smart link service. We use a really good one
Speaker:at podnos. I'll pop a link to it in the description. It's called Linkfire
Speaker:and that won't be an affiliate link. See, so many
Speaker:people say, oh, I get all my listeners from insert place
Speaker:here. But that's largely an assumption because most people
Speaker:aren't even tracking where their audience comes from. And I bet you're
Speaker:the same. Now. This episode comes with a freebie that is the
Speaker:LinkedIn podcast promo swipe pack and I've got 10
Speaker:proven post templates and a fill in the blanks hook
Speaker:generator for you. You can snag it for free at
Speaker:podmastery co Math. That's
Speaker:podmastery co Math.
Speaker:Download the PDF, copy and paste the stuff and watch the
Speaker:clicks climb. Remember the stadium scenario I shared with you
Speaker:at the very start of this episode? 100,000 seats
Speaker:look epic on paper, but if only the first row
Speaker:shows up, it's a real indicator that you're desperate for a better
Speaker:strategy than oh, Neil, I'm just going to share episodes with my
Speaker:LinkedIn followers. Did I mention I got 100,000 followers?
Speaker:Because that is only going to end up with egg on your face,
Speaker:lady. If you found this episode useful and you haven't already, give
Speaker:the show a follow, leave us a review and share this
Speaker:episode with someone you think it might help that's also a podcaster.
Speaker:I've been Neil Velio, your podmaster. Go run the
Speaker:numbers, keep those expectations real and keep on
Speaker:your journey towards pod mastery.
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