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Welcome back to Katching Up With Katie. We’re kind of in one of those times of the year where not a whole lot of craziness is happening, but a lot of stuff is about to happen.

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So, like, we’re on the cusp of calving season. We are… we just… we did just wean, which I wouldn’t say is crazy. I would say it was actually pretty anticlimactic.

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Climactic? We had a whole thing about climatic… climactic. Anyway, so that happened, but our cattle sale is a few weeks away.

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Congress is a few weeks away. We get to go to New York for a couple of days on a work trip.

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There’s lots of stuff that’s about to happen. Yeah, it’s just kind of one of those times

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where we’re just making videos and doing normal farm stuff.

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I did post a little prompt on Facebook asking what topics y’all would like to hear about,

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due to the fact that sometimes I feel that the Katching Up With Katie platform is one of the best spaces to explain things just because it’s longer-form.

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It gives us time to actually have a conversation about stuff.

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One person did say, “Your best friend—heard she was cool—you should talk about her.”

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That’s from Becca Miller. She is the commenter, and she is also the best friend, number one listener. I don’t think we have to talk about her, honestly.

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She’s had her own episodes before. Yeah, she’s being a little greedy.

What’s happened to my garden?

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Anyway, the one thing that people keep bringing up is my garden—or the lack thereof.

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What do they say about it? They want to see it. Oh, that’s embarrassing. Well, let’s go show them.

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No, no, no, no, no. What’s wrong with the garden? Have you not looked?

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There’s nothing as you’re pulling in. No, it’s rough. It’s crispy.

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It’s a graveyard. It is. It’s a graveyard with a few little lives just trying to make it.

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And Lindsay still waters them every day. It’s just… well, I was like, “I mean,

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you’re welcome to try. I’ve given up.” Gotcha.

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There are a few dahlias that are just like… and I feel so bad because I got these beautiful, beautiful dahlias from Elena—who, you know, we met through donkey stuff.

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She has her own page and the most beautiful flowers. She has all these beautiful, colorful eggs—just the most whimsical farmer lady—and I was like,

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“I want to be that.” Yeah. So she brought me these dahlias, and then I very much failed her.

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I do think next year—so how my garden is now—it was successful for a year,

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the annual one, because it had the tubs. They’re like the galvanized tubs. Yeah. I feel like the

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last two summers have been uncharacteristically so hot, and I think the tubs just cooked everything.

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And then when we get a downpour of water, because we had such a wet part of the year, I think they just drown. I think it was a terrible situation.

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So you think… put them in the ground next year? You think it’s the tubs? I think it’s neglect and the tubs.

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I think the tubs allow for a lot less wiggle room. I think the ground might save me a little

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bit better. Say 10–20% tubs? No, for sure—neglect was a lot of it. Yeah, neglect was a lot of it.

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I think you’re going to be the whimsical farmer lady that does like… I have a feeling.

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I want to be the whimsical farmer lady. I feel like you actually have it in you.

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I don’t. I think I have the want, just not the goods. You have a green thumb. Maybe. I don’t know. I’ve never really tried.

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I feel like you’d be the type that’s like, “Here are some eggs to go home with.” I would. Yeah, you would.

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I’d love to do that. I’d love to take them. We’re very close. Yeah, you would.

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So this is one of those situations where we’ve been trying to get this house ready for Abigail—was supposed to be in by June. It is September.

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She’ll be in soon. So we just took over the Kidding Castle.

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So the Kidding Castle is no more. Okay. Sorry, have a sip of your water, Abigail. Yeah. Resume.

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We did. So the Kidding Castle is no more. That left. So the Kidding Castle, if you don’t know— for kidding season, we have a shed that was on the property when we bought it.

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And then I was like, “We should put goats in it.” Where did it go? What happened? It went down the road.

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The link will be in my description. And back to the video. It’s at your house. So that’s where Sprout and

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Bean are going to live. Ding, ding. Wow. It’s already there. Interesting. It went there yesterday. Wow.

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So we are Kidding Castle-less until Friday. What’s Friday?

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When the new one gets here. The new—The Kidding Kingdom, I’m learning—comes here. Yeah.

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It’s custom-made. Oh, it’s got a loft inside of it.

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It has taller ceilings. It’s bigger so we can actually film inside of it instead of from the outside. It’s just going to be so good.

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That’s exciting. We’re going to do a little porch off the side of it. It’s got double doors off the side

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and off the front. It’s got windows. It’s got dormers. Does it have a balcony?

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No. No balcony. It’s not two-story. [Laughter] No.

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And it’s white with black trim and blue doors. Ooh, that’ll be nice.

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We’re going to do a little patio off the side and an awning so they have a spot that’s not inside for more shade and to get out of the weather.

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A lot of people asked, “If you’re getting this new big Kidding Castle and now Honey

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and Bee are going to be old enough, are you going to have like five baby goats—or five moms having baby goats—next year?” I’m like, “No. No, no, no, no.”

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I learned this year—three is my max. Three max. Three is my max. I feel like once you get past… I’m not

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trying to be a goat hoarder/over-producer. I’m not— that’s not towing the line.

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Three is max. Three is max, Matt. So even now, with the six babies, we’re trying to give them all attention

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and make them loving and whatever. And Brier, Sparrow… even with three,

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it was hard to give them all enough attention for what we’re doing, you know?

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So yeah, this next season—usually we bring a buck in for June babies in January.

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I think I’m going to bring the buck in in November–December for Honey and Bee only and just have two.

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Okay, maybe Blossom, since Blossom has only had one kidding season.

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But Bella and Buttercup will be at a later date. I mean, Buttercup—if she keeps having one more

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baby every time—we’re going to have quints next time. Quints. I mean…

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Anyway, that’s happening Friday. New goat house. New goat house. Very excited.

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Very excited. That’s exciting. For real, for real. But yeah, the garden— the garden’s sad. I’m so sorry.

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I had a good garden. That was on me, honestly. Pictures to Abigail. Yeah. How did your garden— is it still going well? How did your garden grow?

Matt's Garden

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About wrapped up. Got like five or six pumpkins. Wow, you had pumpkins. Pumpkins, tomatoes, basil, grapes, sweet potatoes.

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What about the grapes? Greens. No grapes. No grapes. Groundhog. I’ve trapped like four groundhogs,

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and I’m working on the fifth one. It’s the boss. Did you see the groundhog— the boss level—yesterday?

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No, you weren’t there. It was me and Lindsay. Austin was too late. But he is this big around in the pasture.

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What? What is that face? It’s just funny to me. I like groundhogs. I think they’re funny. Just the way they sit— the

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way they sit is very entertaining. From a livestock perspective,

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they dig lots of holes, and then your animals run and break their leg. I’m not talking about from that perspective. Mhm.

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So, one of the things a lot of people asked—going into this calving season, since we’re on the

It’s an "N" year!

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cusp—what is the name theme? It’s an N year.

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Do we know anybody whose name starts with an N?

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I’m just saying. Who’s going to say it?

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We did— we had a Matthew in the M year. Rebecca named her calf that she bought

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from us Matthew. Did you know that? A calf— a cow named Matthew. A cow named Matthew. It was a calf— baby. A calf named Matthew.

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’Cause last year was an M year. So then this year we could have a Natalie.

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We could have a Nathaniel. A Nate. Natasha. A Natasha— cow name. Nate. Natasha is a hot name.

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Yeah. So we have multiple— I mean— opportunities here.

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Honestly, in all livestock— goats, sheep, cows— most of them in the registries have a letter year.

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You don’t have to go off the letter year, but it makes it easier when you’re doing ear tags.

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So we’ll have— C34Z, we were talking about her earlier— her name is Cookie.

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You know she’s from the C year, and you can know her age.

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Anyway, it just makes it easier. And this year is an N year. Cookie is 11. Mhm.

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Wow, she’s a— but okay. See, there are a couple letters they skip. They skip I, V, Q. Why?

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Do they think people aren’t creative? No, it just gets confusing with numbers and letters. Oh, okay.

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So anyway, I think she’s 10. Okay. But yeah, she looks perfect. She’s one of our really, really good older cows.

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We bred her, so we’ve had her entire life. So that’s cool to see. We were just looking at the mom-and-baby pasture today and thinking about how some

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of these mamas are having their first baby, and some of them are literally having their eighth baby. This will be Cookie’s eighth baby.

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What’s your oldest cow? Cookie is probably up there. Really? Yeah, she’s probably up there

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’cause we’re now at a point where we’re starting to keep a lot of our heifers and not wanting to

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sell as much, because cattle prices right now are so high that it’s really hard to replace. It’s hard to get recipients. We’re doing a lot more embryo work, and it’s

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honestly worth us keeping our— like, let’s say we have an older cow and her numbers just aren’t what

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we’re looking for these days— it’s easier to keep her heifer and raise it to put embryos in versus

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selling it and then buying another one. So we’re kind of keeping things.

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But there for a while, the way our business model worked, we had to sell to make money.

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We weren’t pulling embryos. We weren’t selling semen. We weren’t any of that. So it used to be, if a cow

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came to her prime, you sold her then because you were going to lose out if you didn’t.

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And so we have a few that are in that 8- to 10-year-old range, one of them being Leona.

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Leona is my first cow. I think she’s eight this year. I think Blue Bell is seven. But yeah, we’re getting to

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where we’re keeping a lot more now and holding out with them instead of rotating in and out as much.

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Lots of names. I think Kiki— if she has a baby girl— it has to be Nikki. Nikki. Nikki.

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I really like Nelson. Nelson’s good. Nelson. What are some other good N—

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We’re going to need some N names in the comments, 100%. For sure. ’Cause I mean,

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I bet we have our first calf within the next week. But here’s the thing— like Lulu’s having a baby. I don’t know if it’s a heifer or a bull calf.

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We always— with Gigi and her progeny— try to do that theme.

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Gigi has Lulu and Kiki and Mimi and… whatever. I don’t know how to keep like ni-noo, no— like,

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we could have a na-na, nana— ne-nana, nana-nana— we could do Knickknack.

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I don’t know. I feel like that sticks with the… So on Facebook, where I did the prompt, someone named Na Nigh asked— so Na Na’s on the table—

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Na Nigh asked, “What’s something I’m proud of for Matt, Nate, Abigail, and Lindsay?”

Q and A

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W— okay. Okay, I feel like— listen up.

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Sorry, I had to burp. I don’t know.

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I wish I could say there were just a lot of things to choose between. It’s hard to find one. What are you whispering?

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I said, “Just can’t do it. Just can’t think of one.” Can’t think of something I’m proud of myself for either.

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Oh no, I think— I’m proud of the… what’s the word? Integration.

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I’m proud of the fact that none of y’all had any experience with anything you’re working

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with these days— none of y’all had any… I mean, Matt has so much experience— except Matt— with his horses. Years and years of experience.

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None of y’all had any experience in this world, and the fact that y’all

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are so willing and eager to learn— you’ve so quickly integrated yourselves into this thing.

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I know it’s for work, and I know it’s part of your job to do it, but it’s not an easy thing to pick up. I’m not even talking about writing.

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I’m talking about the horse world— the horse industry, the horse breeding, and whatever.

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And y’all are just like little sponges. Other than the names, honestly.

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[Music] Well, you started this whole thing with “except Matt,” anyway, so I’m still off the table right now.

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Carry on. No, no, no— you’re in it. I’m just proud that… really reaching here. Just proud.

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Words can’t explain. Anyway, whatever— they’re really good at their jobs. They’re awesome.

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Whatever. We’ll end it with that. Oh, thank you. Compliments are awkward.

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They are. Only if they’re made awkward. I’m getting warm. Yeah, I’m mad. Let’s go around in a circle and say what we’re proud of each other about.

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I just had to do it, so now it’s y’all’s turn to do it for each other. Yeah, but you didn’t do each person individually. It didn’t say individually.

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I know, but you kind of took a broader, easier way around the question.

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So are we allowed to lump everyone into the same, or do we have to go individually?

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I’m proud of how far everybody’s come this year compared to last. I’m proud of the work that everyone puts in.

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I’m proud of how much y’all know compared to three years ago.

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Was that bad of me to say? I’m kidding. No, it wasn’t. I know— we know what you meant.

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People will know what you meant. It’s just funny. It’s not an easy thing to do at all— to go into something you have zero clue about and then excel

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within that world, within your field. It takes a special kind of person. It’s hard, and I think it’s awesome that you all have achieved that and

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that you continue to achieve that and get more knowledge.

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I don’t know if any of y’all are going to pursue horses outside of this particular job, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Nate did. I wouldn’t be surprised if I did.

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I like horses now. I would be surprised if Matt did. He already became an absolute, just household name, dude.

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Household name. People aren’t even— Would you want to be a household name within horses? I don’t know, dude— something that would really tee everybody off.

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Like, somebody— he don’t even know— and he did it. I don’t know. I feel like… tacky Turpin— like rodeo— You’re talking about Tacky Turpin.

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Too tall. I’m too tall to do anything rodeo. I used to want to be a bull rider. I think that would really get to people if they

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saw you out there excelling as a bull rider. I wouldn’t excel as a bull rider. His back is too metal now. Yeah, one fall and you’re done.

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He never falls. It’s like crazy lore.

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I can hear that— I hear that announcement. What? “This is his 10th round in a row. One fall and he’s done.”

Matt is Going to Ride!

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So we did a lesson with Abigail a couple weeks ago, and honestly it’s been really,

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really positive feedback on that type of video. Yeah. And we need to do another one. If it weren’t for the fact that Matt

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has to go rescue his child after this— because she was crying when he left her with the babysitter—

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he has to go rescue her after this. But I think we need to do Matt next.

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I’m ready. I’m ready. I want to do it, too. I’ll have my boots. Who’s your horse of choice? Ethel.

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Ethel’s your horse of choice. Yep. You could choose between Ethel, Rikki— He doesn’t know who that is.

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Honestly, that’s about it. I’m not letting you on Kennedy. Rikki’s the tan one. He doesn’t know who Rikki is.

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Or is it the palomino one? Rikki’s really new. Rikki is the newest one. I thought the newest one was…

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You’re right—Lexi’s new. Lexi is the newest one. Lexi, palomino? I don’t even know if I—

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She’s a bay. I don’t think I know what bay is. Brown, black hair. Yeah, black hair.

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She looks like a small— She looks like Maggie. Small Trudy. Small Trudy.

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I can get behind that. True— get behind that. I still say Ethel. She just seems like a

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good girl. Yeah. I feel like y’all would be a good pair. So that whenever it surfaces that I’ve

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never been on a horse before— whenever that finally— I’ll still be on somebody comfortable.

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The only thing is that she’s becoming stronger, and now she’s harnessing her strength.

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She’s getting stronger. Okay.

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But she has been getting stronger. She’s getting stronger. Get stronger, too. Every day.

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I know. I’ll train. It was always really convenient that she’s so fat and out of shape that you could just count

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on her not wanting to move. She’s been training. So she’s safe. Well, now she’s— we’ve been working her— and now

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she’s getting stronger and some pep in her step. It’s unfortunate, honestly.

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It’s good that she’s stronger, but it makes it a little more difficult because now she makes

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things more interesting. Now she’s trying to go. It does. So, okay—Ethel’s a good choice.

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Can’t wait to open that video with… like those cartoon grime— they watch anime.

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But anyway, we’ll do that soon because a lot of people really liked that video. I think it was a good look into not just riding but all the steps— getting the horse

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out of the pasture to putting it back in the pasture and all the things in between. That’s something that doesn’t necessarily get shown— kind

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of gatekept— for people who haven’t ridden ever. Another thing— and multiple people asked this— is why I don’t do P.O. box unboxings anymore.

Why I don’t do unboxings anymore

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I’ve talked about this on Snapchat a little bit, but I’ve never made a big post about not doing them anymore, because we still have the P.O. box open.

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It’s open. It’s still there. We’re just not doing the unboxings anymore.

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I keep burping— can we take that out? We can try.

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I don’t ever want to come across like I don’t want stuff coming into my P.O. box,

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because that’s not the case at all. The whole thing started when Rooster

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passed away a couple years ago. Some people were like, “Hey, can I send you some artwork?” I didn’t want to give out my address,

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so I opened a P.O. box. “How about that?” So we did. That’s what it started off as.

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People really liked the unboxings, and it turned into people sending funny stuff, homemade crafts— things like that— and it was really, really cool.

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I don’t want to say it wasn’t still cool in a lot of ways, but there were people using it

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to send their small-business items or things they wanted to sell.

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That in itself wasn’t the bad thing— it was the people who got very angry

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if I chose not to share their item. Some people sent inappropriate things.

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Some sent stuff that really made me uncomfortable— creepy. I’m not going to get into details. They were also calling and

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berating my post office. If they didn’t see their item in the unboxing, they’d blame the post office— call and berate and cuss out and all this stuff.

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It turned into… it was no longer just a simple, innocent, cool thing for everyone anymore.

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So we still have it open, but we decided, because showing it on video seemed to be

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causing all the negativity, that without showing the video, there’d be no more reason for it.

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So that’s why we stopped it— or stopped showing it, at least. It’s still there. We still open it.

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We actually have some thank-you cards and stuff that we’ll send out sometimes. But yeah— that’s the reason, unfortunately.

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I will say this— because this was meant to be a joke— we did get sent a confetti

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bomb one time that was disguised as something very inappropriate.

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Very vulgar. Oh yeah, that wasn’t me.

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Okay, I just want to set the record straight. I didn’t send that. Sounds like something you— But yeah, it was meant— and it’s the same thing for like… seven.

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Some people have sent some really, really sweet things. It just turned— I wouldn’t say turned dark— it turned more into, “I sent you this and you

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didn’t show it on there, so I’ve been slighted.” It turned more into wanting to be shown on the

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video or wanting their product to be shown. Right.

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And I absolutely loved shouting out small businesses when I could. It just turned— like I said— it came back on my post office.

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It came back on— because I have help looking through email. I have help corresponding. It just turned into a lot.

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But anyway, that’s the reason— that’s why we don’t do the unboxings anymore. I miss it sometimes because it was fun seeing a lot of stuff.

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But yeah, we still see it. We just— we still see it. We’re just not doing it. Not in the amount that—

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No, no, no. The amounts have definitely gone down considerably.

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My pie was in the refrigerator this morning.

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My pie— but it wasn’t there when I opened the door and saw an empty space.

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I guess one thing we can chat about a little bit— and I can’t give too

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many details— heavy on the little bit. Here’s something we can go heavy on because

Big News!

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I do have some plans, but this is for the… I guess I’m going to tell you this plan, but there are two

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other phases past this plan that I’m not sharing. I got you. So this is phase one, but I’m not going to share the other phases yet.

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Are we privy? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. A lot of people have been commenting, “Oh my gosh, you literally need another barn.”

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It’s happening. Another barn is coming. Have I talked about this yet? I don’t think I have.

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No, I don’t— No. I talk about it all the time here. I don’t think I’ve talked about it on camera. There’s another barn happening.

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There’s a pad on the property that’s behind the arena— the covered arena—

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and it was originally… there’s not a single flat space on our property.

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It’s all rock. It’s all hills. So we created this flat space 15 years ago, I would say, to put in an outdoor arena.

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Well, I honestly don’t remember what squashed the outdoor arena.

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I really don’t know why it didn’t happen. But it got flat, then it grassed over,

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and all of a sudden we were using it as a trailer parking area. It started collecting things that just need to get thrown away— things like that.

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It’s where the manure pile is. It’s just gotten taken over. So this flat space— we’re reworking a lot of things behind the barn.

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We’re putting a 125-ft by 50-ft barn. It’s not going to be as wide as our original barn.

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It’s basically two lines of stalls on either side. It’ll have a wash bay, a tack room, and big bay

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doors in the middle going outside— one of them going into an outdoor arena.

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Nice. This is where the open mares stay, where the yearlings go, where the weanlings go.

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So you can actually separate the weanlings and the moms— they’re not in the same space anymore.

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Also, if I have some mares that aren’t pregnant that I’m riding, they might stay there.

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It’s going to be, I believe, 18 to 20 stalls.

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The big barn— we’re still going to have the collapsible middles in some of the foaling stalls, but it’s basically more the foaling barn and the mom-and-foal barn.

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There are still some single stalls out in the arena portion. But anyway, this gives us the opportunity to expand a bit.

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There’s going to be some pasture space that comes off that. We’re going to have to build off the side. I’ve convinced my dad to give me some

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cow pasture space for that. We’re adding a few new paddocks.

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Honestly, my overall plan— and this is going to be hard— I don’t know what I’ve talked about yet, but I’ve put some feelers out.

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I’d like to find somebody— probably a trainer— who wants to slow down and not travel as much.

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I’d like to find somebody who wants to start two- to four-year-olds, do the groundwork for

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the yearlings, be in correspondence with my other trainers to say, “Hey, this one’s one

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we need to send on to training. Hey, this one we need to hold back for a year and maybe send it off next year. This one I don’t think is going to fit our needs—let’s find a buyer.”

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Then keep the two to four mares I’m riding legged up and worked— just a small in-house operation.

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I’d really like to keep a lot of my youngsters at home longer to watch them as they grow.

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Sometimes as a two- and three-year-old they go through growth spurts and changes,

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and I want to be the one making the decisions on their behalf— not somebody else. I don’t want to put all my trust in someone else to make the same decision I would— whether, “Oh,

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we need to take them out of training,” or “Maybe we need to do some corrective

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shoeing while they’re growing,” or “We need to change their diet,” or whatever. I just want a little longer control on these animals I’m

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raising before they go off to their jobs. So that’s the plan for the next few years.

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Anyway, that’s a little extra tidbit that’s happening. So I guess that’s it for now. Like I said, it’s kind of the lull of the year.

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We’re not staying up waiting on babies. We’re not traveling that much. We’ve got about a month until we’re traveling a lot.

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calving season is coming up, so that’s going to be super exciting. Until then, this is one of the very few monotonous times of year, so we probably should enjoy it.

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Yeah. Anyway, hope y’all enjoyed. Let us know other topics you’d like

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us to talk about in future episodes. Let us know what other types of videos you’d like to see. Again, give us those N names

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for calves— they’re coming up. Check out the new merch. Look at the goats. It looks like your yard.

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It looks like my yard. That is my yard. Nice. It’s accurate.

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Oh, okay— it’s good, then. Thank you. Goat merch, Halloween merch— all kinds of

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stuff— is at katievanslyke.net. We'll see you in the next one.