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 Hello and welcome to this week's episode of the Wedding Lounge podcast. We are joined by a very

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 lovely, very special guest that both Evie and I look up to. Yes. And that is Susie Evans. Hi Susie.

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 Hello. Great to meet you. Thank you for joining us today. Susie is a luxury wedding planner.

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 Yeah. I think the word luxury is quite an interesting term. Susie, what do you feel the word luxury

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 means? I'm going to start off here because I think of says lots of thoughts. People say lots of

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 different things and I just want to really stress like I don't think there's any right or wrong

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 answer because everyone's opinion really does matter and everyone's thoughts on it. It's so different.

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 You know the word luxury and I do use it a lot and I am very conscious I use it and I do try and

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 actually step back from it because I think it isn't overused word but at the same time it's you know

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 sort of bad word it's like it's just everyone thinks so differently about it. So for me I would say

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 like it's not about the total budget how much people are spending and you know whether it's

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 50,000 to 500,000 it like that shouldn't be kind of the protocol but what we talk about luxury.

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 For me it's I've got the luxury of the clients that have the good budgets absolutely but actually

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 it's bringing those experiences to their weddings, their celebrations and how they bring that

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 experience. Not just about trends and doing spending the most of flowers and having so it like for

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 example my weddings whilst they'll look beautiful because generally I'm working with some good healthy

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 budgets actually the all-round everything is at a luxury good level because I want the full experience

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 and the clients have that luxury to be able to do that but you know I might not be spending 100,000

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 does not have flowers but actually we spread that cost around so that everything around them so that

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 guest experience and it's not about having you know the world's worth best Instagram picture for me

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 it's actually let's get exactly what the clients want for their budgets and actually give them that

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 luxury you know what that what's luxury to them it's not that what's actually to me it's what's

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 luxury to them and you know how we can immerse that for them it's yeah it's such an open-ended

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 question that I can go on yeah I think it's that kind of indulgent feeling isn't it like it doesn't

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 matter what your budget is if you're going to push yourself that bit further it's an indulgence it is

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 that polished feel isn't it yeah for me like I keep saying it's not just about one part of it it's

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 like the whole experience so behind the scenes right from the the chefs to the porters to the you

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 know the team doing the flowers the week before the conditioning actually that's all part of that

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 luxury experience it's not just about what you see on the day the power as well like the fact you

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 won't do a marquee wedding without two generators yeah that's luxury to me yeah absolutely that's

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 what makes all those things behind the scene and it's it's not just me bringing the beautiful luxury

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 wedding it's actually the team that I bring behind that there that's what creates that the luxury

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 aspect now what do you find sort of thinking financially I know you said obviously get

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 experience it's important what do you find a lot of your couple the spending their budget on apart

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 from obviously venue and catering which are the big big parts of a budget do you find your clients

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 have sort of similarities in the elements of their way yeah absolutely you know whether it's

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 you know marquee or venue I think food will always be my sort of top priority with my clients

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 with the food and this is going well I'll touch on again so for me staffing labor the teams behind

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 the probably my biggest spend and I'll be honest with you I have to educate my clients right from

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 the outset it's not said they're like yeah yeah let's have because obviously especially the catering

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 sometimes my staffing costs are 50% of the catering costs and people really struggle to get their

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 head around that and you know I'm really honest with them and but you know I've got lots of scenarios

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 the experience I've had over the years I've had teams catering teams where we pay a lot less that

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 you get you essentially get what you pay for it's going to say it's a guest guest experience though isn't it

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 like yeah the none of your guests have to wait for anything and to have those people there to

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 cater to those guest requirements is what elevates it and makes it yeah it's not just the delicious

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 food and I think people have a tasting they can see what they get paying for with in terms of the

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 physical food that their guests are going to eat but it's all that as you say the service the

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 background team making sure that they're not suddenly oh gosh like someone's without water on that table

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 you know all of those things that elevate the whole experience yeah people find it as you say hard

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 to put a financial sort of value on it they don't understand but when it's not there they'll notice

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 yeah oh absolutely like you know if I ever see a guest have to ask for water for example a table

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 that should never happen but I appreciate when budgets are lower there will be slow staffing

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 levels it's just not possible to have that level of service and I completely understand but you know

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 like the best thing in the world but the staff aren't there behind it it just makes such a you know

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 even thinking porters I absolutely adore porters for catering and the only caterers that don't

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 even have porters teams and I think they make the biggest it like I'd absolutely door them because

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 they do everything and anything and they are I think just they from the chefs and everyone behind

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 the scenes the operational team I think they just get forgotten about and I think we need to really

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 embrace actually this is actually these are the people that the cogs are moving and making this

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 experience just the other thing in terms of the spend and I think it's production as well and it

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 doesn't I'm not talking huge I mean a lot of mine are very bespoke builds and things and I get that

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 but in terms of lighting and things there's so many simple things you can do and I think people often

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 over an oversight in terms of like lighting simple lighting can make transform a room drastically

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 so I think it's another area my coverage tends to spend money on as well just going back to sort of

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 thinking about and that's like kitchen like porters and the team behind yeah do you think people just

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 aren't aware of and they don't want to think about this this part of the day did they have with so

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 bombarded of Pinterest and Instagram and looking at the finished result that people see that they

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 want to pay for that but they don't think or even sort of acknowledge how much work goes in behind

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 and what that obviously costs to have to have that end result of it looking effort less than to

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 experience that scene the service because we don't know that's why I said you don't put that on to

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 education yeah no absolutely and it's something I'm looking to do a lot more education on because

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 they're even at my my sales process with my clients this is something I talk about and it's dull

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 so boring and I probably want to lose clients as a result but actually I want to ensure that they

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 align and understand how I work and yeah I want to deliver the best for them if I if they're

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 not aligning and do not want to get their head around having the best service then we're not the

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 right match and it's not about spending more money and not being having enough of flowers it's just

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 making sure actually that the whole day runs so seamless and it's actually we deliver what they

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 want yeah and I just don't think it's possible without the teams whether that's the floor or

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 catering whatever it may be yeah for me I think it's the biggest thing that people overlook

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 it's just pushing people to their limits isn't it you're pushing supplies their limits and yeah

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 there's only so far that people could be pushing actually the more hands you have on deck

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 so many hands make like work saying and it's happening the confidence to talk about it as well I

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 mean you know I've you know I've had the experience of you know 15 years in there and I kind of

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 before I'd be like I'll just just get it through if I will work something out but actually yeah

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 no I I want to deliver the best for them so I will be yeah really clear from the outset about that

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 yeah yeah definitely it's it's so important and I pretty as you say you appreciate not everyone has

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 that sort of level of budget to to spend on that but you've got to then obviously have those

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 conversations about what is realistic if you haven't you know if you haven't got that budget you

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 can't expect that level of service because you won't have that many people on the ground and if

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 you're not willing to allocate the budget there as well if you want that look for the wild factor when

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 people walk in if that is what is important to you then that is where your budget should go whereas

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 actually if it is the entire day and the guest experience and the flow of the day making sure

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 everyone's looked after then you're better off doing that. I mean the same criteria couples probably

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 won't good to see who it's about the catering the food it's not important to them as long as there's

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 something served and at some point and you know they're but it's and that's fine because there's

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 room for all of us and we all have different priorities you know even with as planners or whatever

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 supplier we are and the couples would have different priorities but I just think in the world of

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 luxury as we call it I think that's one element that will just transform a day.

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 Yeah question with a three-course seated meal and when you've got a team working well enough

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 how quickly can you get all that food out to guests and cleared I always find that that

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 part of the day if you've not got enough staff that is part of the day that slows everything down.

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 Even the level of catering so I will allow the same time regardless of starving levels because

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 what I find I guess the lower the budget and when we have that time restrictions and whether

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 aren't the staff then end up clearing tables before the last tables finish their food which that

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 won't happen on my event so I genuinely they'll always be always in our three hours regardless

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 and that includes speech time as well and but I think you know I have done you know obviously

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 natural history museum where we're under a lot of constraints and yeah it's and that's where

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 history museum we've got a hundred and fifty staff there just to ensure those timelines are met

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 because they literally have 45 minutes to do a main course for 400 people and it's doable but then

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 also there is people still eating because there are 40 tables yeah but when there's larger amounts

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 you kind of you have to work like that yeah yeah yeah I mean I saw that first hand obviously when

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 I had to that we're doing at the Naturalism Museum just how quickly you know things have to go

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 around and you've just you need more people to get it done definitely I'm thinking I'm going to

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 know the answer to this but what would your tip to our listeners be who they have a more modest

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 budget and they want to make their event feel more luxurious what would your advice be to those people

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 I've got a couple of things and my biggest one will be I'll be having some I hated out there but in terms

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 trends step away from the trends because I think we get so caught up in them not saying don't ever do

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 them though but you know there are some amazing things and very creative things out there but I think

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 people see these things and Pinterest and Instagram wherever it may be and they're trying to replicate

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 it all that and actually the budget's going on things which really are relevant yeah and I think

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 it's to be a really true authentic timeless wedding that you want to look back in ten years time

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 do you want to see like the biggest one at the moment again I know I've loved it but all this ruffled

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 tablecloths and things we're seeing it everywhere you know it's been for a year or so and you can't

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 put a glass down it's not practical so and you know I think we'll we look back at this because it will

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 go on for a lot longer because obviously it's gone through the luxury and it sort of works its way

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 down and it'll be there for a little while but actually the cost additional cost of doing those

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 limbs is quite substantial and actually it's I just think yes step away from trends the other one

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 that which I think a lot of people they're about is actually things like florals and rather than doing

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 lots of like things like I don't know PUNs and little bug bars things around so you think you've got

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 flowers everywhere you're best of just doing one statement piece so whether that is if you've got

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 the budget to do like beautiful arch brilliant if not something like an earn which can be repurposed

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 it's basically and that's not just for the photographs but actually having an impact so when

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 guests walk in they're more likely to see a beautiful display installation rather than lots and

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 little bits at the PUNs which you can't really repurpose properly either and it's and I think it's

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 making you know repurposed things where you can as well and just forget about all those small details

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 and I think when the budget's there yes you can have all those things but they're the matching straws

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 or the I don't know little napkins cut you know all those little things you know all adds up it might

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 only cost £20 an Etsy but then you do another £30 if it in it just adds up it's actually just work on

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 key key statement pieces essentially I think I'll reduce people's Russia and yeah people's stress

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 around their wedding day if they are focusing on those key elements rather than trying to get all

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 these teeny tiny little things in that I don't know about you but when a couple seems to focus on

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 those teeny tiny bits they really focus on those teeny tiny bits and not the big of my trailer

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 manage them and yeah yeah and yeah actually if you take that out of the equation how much more

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 relaxed the couple would feel planning their wedding when they've only got those few elements to

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 focus on I'm just thinking about the client I had where we spent about four months choosing napkin color

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 and I was just like oh my gosh this is literally so stereotypical of what people think wedding

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 planners do and literally just pick out napkins and things but we literally spent like about four

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 months of getting samples from places and making decisions and oh my goodness and you sort of

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 really at the end of the day people are going to take the napkin put it on their lap eat their food

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 wipe their mouth with it and most of them leave them on the floor you know and share all the floor

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 finding like especially more so last year and I really noticed it was the micro managing level

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 of micromanaging from couples and I think it's a generational thing and how they communicate so then

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 think it's just how they communicate and we're having to adapt and educate and I think it's not

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 the worst it's not worse but I think we we're going to have to adapt a lot more and try and manage

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 those situations because I'm finding now it's like every single element is being so like almost like

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 they're not trusting our opinions and our expertise and I'm thinking I've done this for 15 years

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 and it's done yeah and it's like it's 15 years in business but I've done production before that

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 and it's all like you know I know what I'm talking about and whilst I'll take on your ideas like

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 please listen yeah yeah I really know that I think my first few years in business I was having

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 people sort of my age older and now I'm getting younger couples and I'm really noticing a difference

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 and sort of how much more work is involved with planning with them but going back up forwards and

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 the as you say the focusing on the my new tells yeah I'm not you know I've got people focusing on

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 the smallest of things but not even answering about like ex-supplies we need to book and it's just

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 yeah should we get a marquee? Yeah yeah exactly that for a budget oh yeah oh yeah I know trying to

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 oh yeah I had a client recently trying to get the budget out of them and we didn't have much time

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 so they're like why aren't you booking this and I was like because I don't know how much I've

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 dispensed like exactly yet I was like you know I can't just let you keep spending definitely

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 couples are changing aren't they and yeah absolutely and I said you know I be honest I have a bit of a

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 negative stance that last year thinking you know what it's wrong with these people actually I think

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 I think it's just we're just getting older yeah we you know we you know and also generations are

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 coming in and their thought processes and they're just overwhelmed so overwhelmed and you know

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 I don't want to go into much about the whole ghosting thing actually I'm all right with it if I'm

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 honest and I don't I personally don't think we should be broadcasting it out there like all been

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 ghosted being ghosted because it's just we've got to get on with it it's life if I'm honest and I

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 don't want to be putting that negative message out there that you know we've been ghosted let's

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 for a sofa you'd go to your local shop yeah had sofas and you would choose from that selection whereas

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 now everything the internet yeah you have so much to choose from so these couples are are speaking to

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 10-15 different people yeah it's just that they're being bombarded on Instagram and things that

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 they're maybe not even people they're not even following and they're like oh look at that and

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 I was really excited about them yeah what's been interesting there's um a couple of my couples at

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 the moments and they're messaging forwarding the messages but they're being bombarded by suppliers

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 who found out they're engaged and said can I do your flowers or can I do your photography so you

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 think that's one message okay that's fine they've had five or six follow-up message and think

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 approaching every single couple and my my latest two couples that have taken on have both had

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 the same messages with the same like there's no connection they're both different parts of the

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 UK and they're being bombarded by the same by the same suppliers and it's just interesting

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 she's slid into his DMs that's what these people are doing is they're sliding and I was just like

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 we're just getting old that's it isn't it yeah well I'm a lot older than you guys but no no yeah

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 things are just changing aren't they and how people are yeah life in general and obviously that

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 and ask you about your most memorable event that you've done I found this really hard to answer

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 because obviously it's been so so many and I've got two answer I've got you know I've been fortunate

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 but they've been with like huge huge probably you know high-profile people and it's

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 pinch me moments absolutely incredible to have those experiences and you know one of them I can

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 manner and before they when when we had to do marquee weddings there that's it was a 12 week turnaround

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 for a three day events at Eurich a Jewish wedding which I don't know if you've heard it's me it's Jewish

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 weddings but they are highly immersive highly just so much going on and incredible celebrations

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 and we yes a 12 week so we created a marquee which was a size of football field a pitch and we completely

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 blacked out and created a secret garden themed I've seen images of it so beautiful yeah so we had

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 like thermos from the smell from the touch to the sound like we had everything going on so when

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 of the forest and certain scents were put in there then right through to the food we had like the

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 secret garden original copies on every table and just all those little touches and like dancers

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 supplies were amazing and we just yet that's three days and the next day we had a completely

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 different there with a festival party with all sorts of performers DJs food oh it's just incredible

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 and it was probably my career yeah and to stand in there as well I don't know if I get it with

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 my events so I stand in there and I go I've called this together like it is of course a team effort

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 but I've done this and that moment is such a cool thing I did and then the bride went and did a speech

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 and she just said before I start anything I need Susie my you know my wedding very godmother

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 where is she and I was actually off doing something at the time so I was there but it was recorded

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 that so I missed I got it to miss it but came back halfway through and I just burst out crying

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 because she just the emotions of being able to create what you've done you know it's such a fantastic

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 thing and I always want to say it's predator teams around me it's not me that's just done it is

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 everybody we've all pulled together and it's just yeah incredible and it's one that I'll always

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 look back on with great vibes yeah it was a beautiful wedding yeah you can find all these events

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 tram and website yeah stunning very good what's your other one I think probably my most recent one

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 actually last year because I've done a couple of weddings for the family and I absolutely adore

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 the family so much but I think last year where it was just a just a client's garden private garden

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 of base out bought it together for her and it's just like what don't you see the windy path yeah

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 that goes into the cell cloth um but just for that and it's not just obviously beautifully

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 aesthetically absolutely adored that whole weekend but for me it's about the family working with them

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 because relationships probably are my biggest you know it's not a business transaction yeah I'm not

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 just a wedding planner I really want to be part of the family and just you know and I absolutely

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 like I cry everyone their wedding is off to the end so what's wrong with life it's over again

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 we need to look wedding the rollercoaster of emotions is unreal do you feel like as a marquee planner

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 that you kind of get more emotionally attached to your clients then then some people working

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 venues because obviously a lot of time if you're hosting at someone's private home you've had meetings

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 there you'll kind of you see in terms of the whole family as well not just the couple yeah definitely

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 and because you know I'm there the week before our builds tend to start about 10 days before as well

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 sometimes about a week but you know I'm there all week with them um you know I'm always on a

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 glass of wine with them one evening and just you know and I always stand I think I want to be at

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 this wedding but I don't want you working so I just love it you know I'm so embraced in it and it's

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 sad when it's over I do get the wedding blues afterwards all the time yeah I think it'd be

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 wrong if you didn't yeah because you're clearly putting your heart and soul into it and yeah emotion

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 and you should feel the emotion shouldn't you like surely it's oh yeah it's it's it's a big personal

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 thing for you as much as it is for the couple that you've gone on that journey with them definitely yeah

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 it's yeah I'm just waiting for this year for tears again so you said early obviously you've been in

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 business for 15 years congratulations yeah that's amazing yeah as exciting um so it's a bit more about

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 investment and insurance backgrounds which actually has carried really well into to planning but yes

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 15 years ago there were no planners really out there especially not where I am and Susie you know

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 didn't even have social media I think I just about have Facebook but you didn't do anything on this

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 and Instagram wasn't a thing and I remember my first little ad but I did it on brides forum which

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 you weren't meant to do and just did like a little secret like post and so see if I could get anything

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 so do you want to pay it in your subscription or anything so yeah and I started you know I've done

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 all I've started from the bottom literally you know a local barn 300 pound on the day coordination

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 you know hands up I did it and I think you know only three years and years and years but one thing

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 because I've been in it for so long didn't get the help in the sport so it wasn't really the

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 help and it's thought that we haven't out there now and obviously we've got you know a wealth

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 that experience around us now including yeah this is mentoring that you do yeah yes and it's

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 and I think but that journey actually you know because there's some amazing kind of that come out

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 and you know the last few years who do extraordinary well you know and I kind of think I've got

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 it took me all this time but then I've got to remember we didn't you know didn't have that experience

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 that around us all that support around us back then you know even things like mentoring coaches and

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 things it just wasn't really a thing so yeah I've been in went more into marquees I'd say probably

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 about so eight nine years ago just because I love the challenge yeah and you know came up for so many

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 problems and things and now it's I see lots of people doing lots of marquee weddings but they don't

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 we don't understand how important it is so it's something I really really value you know I just

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 absolutely love the challenge and like I said it's that relationship building relationship with

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 families the suppliers but I also I do like to dabble in an Natural History Museum weddings as

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 last NHM wedding you know we had 40 musicians all come in all in different parts of the world all

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 fly and some of them met each other some of them were playing together we had to do soundcheck and

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 everything you know so the logistics of it all was a complete nightmare so I like anything with

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 a challenge if I'm honest yeah I'm not very good at doing a venue where it's all in health but

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 everything's just done for you but then I always feel too easy doesn't it? I know sometimes it's

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 an NHM to me it's easier because it's it's a one day event it was all so stressful I don't really

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 actually because it's you know I'm day on the day and it's yeah and I think also wanting to stress

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 now because I you know I only do four or five events a year now but one thing I've learned is that

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 I on the day a wedding day I do not have any jobs to do so I do not participate myself any jobs

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 not saying I stand there and do nothing with a clip board and look pretty it's one thing I've

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 learned is that over the years you know I've been running around doing head this chicken doing so

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 whilst I've always had a team I still would do all the stuff and my focus would actually be as far

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 from the couple that it actually needed to know that I wanted it to be so now my team is just

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 stronger I've got bigger team I have a very experienced team behind me but on the day I you know

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 of course I'm not going to do jobs but I'm not there right I'm going to do stationery I'm going to do

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 that I literally doesn't make myself nothing so that I am kind of floating and managing the day

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 from the top but I can actually be client focusing as well so the bride needs me I am there

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 the groom you know whoever it may be I am there for them and it's a lesson that I've learned

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 probably more so in the recent years and I think it's the biggest investment you know if it means

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 you have to get an extra member of your team to be able to do that I think it's the best investment

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 and it's going out to all planners that's my advice would be if you can think as well for the clients

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 they're the ones you've worked with through this whole thing and yeah if you've got the great team

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 that can do the tasks and for you to be the one who can go to the clients when they need you

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 that's such a massive thing and that kind of plays in with their whole experience and the luxury

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 also authentic so whilst my you know my Instagram breed is not beautifully curated in terms of

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 everything look because every wedding is so different because it's like what my clients want

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 it's not you know there's lots of planners that have a beautiful aesthetic but that's what you know

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 they all attract those clients that want that whereas me it's actually what do you what do you want so

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 let's let's get great you know so yes whilst the wedding is all at beautiful but my grid is just a bit

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 all over it's all the wedding so so different so different but it's all about the guest experience

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 yeah it's all about that flow it's about the logistics it's about a polished finish which

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 yeah it's not just about having a beautiful cocktail or how big it's actually

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 right that that guest is flying over to America they're going to arrive here how are they going to

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 get to there I want to get from A to B how they're going to get an even all the the guest communication

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 I think some couples can get so carried away by some email after email after email look at my website

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 look at my website none of your guests will look at your website probably in about a week before the

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 it's made but making sure that actually everything is seamless behind the scenes and giving the guests

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 the opportunity to say that we're going to look after you but we're not going to bombard you you know

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 but yeah it's making yeah it's really important amazing is it where can people find you if they want

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 to find out more about you and what you offer can they find you in your website Instagram

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 weddings they're all there's no style shoots for it's all like my real weddings they're all lots of

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 examples of the types of weddings I've done also on LinkedIn as well and I share a lot of articles

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 on LinkedIn as well it's not just about showing it with the industry it's a shirt worldwide I think

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 there's a few topics on there I've come up about budgets you know the realistic budgets

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 you've done the way you just recently I've been reading your ones about that brand key yeah

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 all those sort of things obviously every facebook and I am on tiktok but not very well oh my god

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 well done you I'm not I can't do it I was on tiktok I've just done three days in a row wow but I mean

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 I've got no views but so please go on tiktok and do them I will go find you on tiktok but no

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 they are doing I would do tiktok every week then I dropped it to toy every two weeks and now I've just

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 I don't have the energy to put videos on tiktok so there's stuff there and I've kind of said

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 fine to me on Instagram now but I just thought I challenged myself this month and just put it on

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 there but it's yeah I'm I hate it I just it's all time consuming and yeah yeah I'm a lover of

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 Instagram yeah well I love and hate Instagram you know we it's a month so you have to pay but it's

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 it's been a big talk for me for the years so yeah I don't I don't do reels but I do not talk

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 unlike you eb I do not talk to a camera no one needs to see this oh god I'm sure I know you're very

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 good at it I will never yeah I yeah people don't need to see my face okay I don't like it I've kind

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 of gotten the habit of doing it and people have said before oh I've seen your reels and I'm like oh

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 if I stop so frankly and it saves me having to think of something else to like type and find

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 the picture for I just go oh what can I say something short and sweet on the camera yeah very well

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 record it and don't let back I'm just gonna put it up I don't even read the captions anymore I just

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 put captions on and hope it understands what I've said go for it same filter boom on I wouldn't even

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 know how to do captions see that's about it yeah amazing but yours is so authentic feature about it

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 in the past you literally will post when you feel is the right time to post and I'm terrible in

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 terms of there is no structure I don't have any plans either I've heard about that you're very

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 very structured coming from a teaching background you have plans you have you have everything

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 I'll wake up in the morning go oh I'm not posted for three days maybe I should post but I will post

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 what feels good to me at that moment and I'm comfortable with that you know it's worked me so far

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 one day I might do time blocking who knows and try and do these things but yeah so I'm

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 opposite to you complete opposite to you I'm very organic in terms of like my phrase in terms of

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 what's the priority for me that day let's let's go with it it's one day I have to plan ahead otherwise

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 it just won't get done I literally just have to schedule stuff well in advance otherwise we've

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 and radar I've heard about your post-it note situation as well post-it note to be where

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 what would be your top tip for couples planning their wedding and I've kind of all just said this

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 and I'll go back on again because I think it's still really important it's about the training

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 situation so you know trends come and go one thing that I've done with my couples especially it's

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 one of last year the year four where they sent all these pictures and it was bang on trend everything

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 was all the scribbles you know all the script everything had scribbles on and all that really fun

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 and they wanted a really fun thing and I just said when in 10 years time you'll look at this and you'll

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 be like oh yeah is that the right yeah I said you know and I gave the actual examples of my wedding

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 so I've been married 16 years and I said look I'm gonna show you these pictures and I had the bright

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 blue glasses but with the gold bows and you know I said just kind of trying to think about this wedding

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 you know what you really want so we managed to change we we kept that fun element but we just

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 I suppose can't be done a little bit so I think it's just trends like just trying to think about

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 the future and looking back at those those pictures and thinking actually am I going to regret this

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 not saying don't do trends but it's just been mindful of it and the other one which I think you'll

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 in all the gray with.

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 especially specializing in marquee weddings as that I think obviously general myth and we all

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 talk about it all the time is the cost of a marquee wedding especially at home and I'd say I'd

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 probably have three or four inquiries and even inquiries say we didn't do a marquee wedding at home

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 which she can do in a venue it is not as you know very well and I think the probably

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 main myth is that we don't have a venue high I don't have all the venue costs it's like yes but

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 marquee wedding so that you're building your venue essentially from the ground up you need the toilet

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 so you need to generate it so you need to like everything it goes with it I said right to the

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 cutlery and everything and they're like oh oh but yeah we can probably get us a beer but the marquee

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 is probably the budget that you're looking at and it's so I think the thing is just if you really

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 are considering a marquee just research you know speak to planners get good an idea you know

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 we're we're already open and honest in terms of cost and there are different levels but please

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 marquee weddings are not cheap remember that it's not even suppliers who aren't involved in it they

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 don't realise well they get you know we have to tell you think about it it's just the upheaval of them

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 is obviously a lot as well yeah I think when you've got a caterer who comes in who's not done yes

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 a marquee event before and they're like you've got a build an entire kitchen and even understanding

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 the layout of that is quite feat to do so when they don't yeah they sort of say oh can you do

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 the kitchen price is that no no that's your job yeah yeah I also think just to add to that if you are

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 doing a marquee at home like the bare minimum have a coordinator because like it was a venue

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 yes included in that price would be someone they're running your day whereas if you haven't

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 you know if you can't afford planner to help you throughout at least have a coordinator who's

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 there so your mum isn't running around on the day and I also probably a bit controversial at the

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 moment but there's a lot of suppliers so like caterers offering planning services and I just think

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 if you're doing something at home the best interest I think it's trying to get a third party so someone

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 that's completely separate from any of the suppliers that is actually looking after you as a couple

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 your family have everything you know everything right because I think if you're working with a supplier

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 not saying they won't do a good job but essentially their best interest is whatever they're

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 supplying so whether it's a catering production they're you know on the day their focus really will

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 be delivering that's not managing are they going to be there the four week before doing the setup

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 and things like no of course they're not so I think just be mindful like if they are offering that

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 service should be really clear what service they're offering yeah as well I think it's the same

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 in venues as well with the venue coordinator their interests that lie with the venue and not

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 with the suppliers that are coming in is still it's quite reliant on you as a couple to be able to

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 tell the venue what's going on I just think it's one thing you should invest in is having that person

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 too I mean absolutely yeah I'm going to say that because we're planners but I mean my person to run

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 your day for you who is overseeing every element yeah and I did it yeah it's back to that service

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 that you were talking about earlier people see the Instagram the food and stuff they don't think about

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 the team behind and that is what your planner is essentially doing is the person behind the scenes

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 that you kind of don't know that they're there but if they're not there yeah oh thank you so much

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 it's been really insightful thank you Susie no I think I'm going to enjoy it thank you for having me

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 next week what are we talking about the week up the week leading up to your wedding oh yeah

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 and what sort of things you can look to do within that week we will see you will then

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