You know that awkward moment when somebody asks what you do and you freeze?
Speaker AYou're an artist, but do you say it aloud or do you even say it loud?
Speaker AToday, we're going to be talking about that exact moment when you finally give yourself permission to call yourself an artist.
Speaker AMean it.
Speaker AHey there, friends.
Speaker AThis is Timothy Chemo Brian, your head instigator for Create Art podcast, where I bring my over 30 years of experience in the arts and education world to help you tame your inner critic and create more than you consume.
Speaker ASo what I'm doing here is I've started a new series called the New Artist Compass.
Speaker AAnd what I'm doing with that is talking directly to the new artist out there and trying to give you some of the wisdom, some of the tips, some of the ideas, remove some of the mysticism, and all that stuff that I encountered when I first became an artist.
Speaker AAnd how apropos that we're talking today about when to call yourself an artist now.
Speaker AWhen I was a kid, you know, middle school, high school, I thought people were kind of pretentious when they called themselves an artist.
Speaker AI thought they were kind of precious.
Speaker AAnd that's not a good term.
Speaker AThat's not a term of endearment.
Speaker AThat is a very negative term.
Speaker AAnd I went in high school, I was doing theater, I was doing music.
Speaker AAnd even back then, I didn't really consider myself an artist because I wasn't a tortured soul.
Speaker AI mean, yes, I was wearing black all the time, and I had black fingernail polish and wore eyeliner, but I didn't really call myself an artist because I wasn't making money at it.
Speaker AIt wasn't my living.
Speaker AI was, you know, working at a retail store or a movie theater, and I wasn't selling anything, and I wasn't selling any CDs or wasn't selling any plays or anything like that.
Speaker ASo I was like, I'm not an artist.
Speaker AI, you know, I have to be this tortured soul and know, get drunk all the time and smoke clove cigarettes and.
Speaker AAnd, you know, jump into all of that.
Speaker ABut I was wrong.
Speaker AI was an artist at that time.
Speaker AAnd when people ask me, you know, and you've experienced this, I'm sure, you know, hey, what do you do?
Speaker AOne of the first things I tell them is I'm a podcaster.
Speaker ABut I always like to.
Speaker AActually, I always like to start off with my husband.
Speaker AI'm a father, I'm an artist, I'm a podcaster.
Speaker AYou know, I, you know, my day job is doing stuff for the Federal government.
Speaker ABut what I really enjoy doing is my art.
Speaker AAnd I don't think we should be embarrassed to or apologetic to say that we're artists.
Speaker AIt's not being precious.
Speaker AIt's not being anything like that.
Speaker AWe're saying what we do.
Speaker AAnd when we say we're an artist, people are going to have their own opinions.
Speaker AThey're going to have their own preconceived notions of what that is.
Speaker ACan't do anything about it other than just being your true self.
Speaker AAnd you can do other things.
Speaker AYou can have a steady 9 to 5, you know, doing spreadsheets or TPS reports.
Speaker ABut what feeds your soul, what do you enjoy doing is a better question that people should be asking us.
Speaker ASo when they ask you what you do, you can say, I'm an artist.
Speaker AAnd then they're going to go, oh, you know, what have you sold recently?
Speaker AOr anything like that?
Speaker AWell, that's none of their damn business.
Speaker ABecause if you didn't say you're an artist, you say, you know, you know, I work at this place or that place.
Speaker ADo most people ask you how much money you make per year?
Speaker ANo.
Speaker AThat's kind of a rude thing to do.
Speaker ASo when you say you're an artist and they go, oh, yeah, what did you sell recently?
Speaker AOr where have I seen you?
Speaker AYou know, stuff like that, I just shut that down right away and I go, well, I mean, that's kind of personal, you know, you know, what I sold and who I sold it to and for how much I sold it.
Speaker AIt's none of their business.
Speaker ASo, you know, I let them know, hey, that's a confidential kind of thing.
Speaker ABut in today's episode, we're going to give you the tools to decide.
Speaker AHey, I am an artist.
Speaker AThis is what I do.
Speaker AI may have a 9 to 5, but this is what I do.
Speaker AThis is what feeds my soul.
Speaker AThis is what helps me, you know, get through all the minutiae of whatever is happening in the day.
Speaker ASo let's get started.
Speaker AWhat do you say?
Speaker ASo my first point today is going to be defining yourself, defining artist for yourself.
Speaker AWhat does it mean to you?
Speaker AHow do you define what an artist is?
Speaker AFor me, this only works for me.
Speaker ASo don't, you know, don't use my yardstick to measure yourself, okay?
Speaker ABut for me, an artist is somebody is myself, commenting on the world that I live in and sharing it with others to compare notes.
Speaker AThat simple.
Speaker AThat simple.
Speaker AThat's what.
Speaker AThat's how I define myself as an artist.
Speaker ANow, there's no official Checklist.
Speaker ASo, you know, no one's going to come around.
Speaker AI'm not going to come around and go, okay, you haven't done A, B, C, D or E. So you're not an artist.
Speaker AThere's no checklist for it.
Speaker AIf you make toenail clipping and toenail clippings and glue them on a canvas, call yourself an artist.
Speaker AFine, go for it.
Speaker AI'm going to share with you my definition of what an artist is.
Speaker AOr for me, you know why I call myself an artist and I'm going to ask you what your definition for it is to that way I can understand it better.
Speaker ABut there's no checklist for this.
Speaker AThere's none.
Speaker AI've looked.
Speaker AThere's no checklist.
Speaker AYour definition matters because that's going to be your why, whatever that definition is.
Speaker AAnd I would challenge you.
Speaker AGo sit down, get a piece of paper and a pen and write it out for yourself.
Speaker AWhat is that for you?
Speaker AThat'll help you out with your goals.
Speaker ASo maybe, you know, you're saying, hey, I'll be an artist when I sell this painting for a hundred dollars.
Speaker AOkay, cool, go for it.
Speaker AIf that's what it takes for you, go for it.
Speaker ABut it's setting that goal for yourself to call yourself an artist.
Speaker AI don't set goals for that.
Speaker AI just know that I'm an artist because that's what I do is I comment on the world and share with you and, you know, compare notes and see, you know, is that a blue elephant in the sky or is it a orange gazelle?
Speaker AAnd then you tell me, no, it's a polka dotted pyramid.
Speaker ACool.
Speaker AHow did you get to polka dotted pyramid?
Speaker AI want to know what that is.
Speaker AYour definition matters.
Speaker AMy definition doesn't matter.
Speaker AIt matters for me.
Speaker AIt may not matter for you.
Speaker AAnd guess what?
Speaker AI'm okay with that.
Speaker AThing of it is, you need to be at peace with being a work in progress.
Speaker AI gave you the definition for, for artists.
Speaker AFor myself, that may change in 10 years.
Speaker AThat has changed in the past 10 years.
Speaker AAnd I'm excited to see what the next 10 years brings me because I don't know what's going to happen.
Speaker ABut you got to be at peace with yourself.
Speaker ASo maybe you're not calling yourself an artist yet, but make that definition of what an artist is and then once you fulfill that definition, then for the love of God, call yourself an artist.
Speaker AStop beating yourself up about this.
Speaker AGo ahead and do it.
Speaker ABecause there's no checklist, there's no one coming after you say, no you're not an artist.
Speaker AAnd if they do come after you and say, no, I don't think you're an artist.
Speaker AOkay?
Speaker AThat's your opinion.
Speaker AGreat.
Speaker AI disagree.
Speaker AAnd this is why I disagree, because this is how I define artist.
Speaker AI have a friend that used to run a comic book shop.
Speaker AHe defined an artist as being somebody that is actively selling their work and making money from it.
Speaker AIt's not my definition.
Speaker AI said, well, what does that make me?
Speaker ABecause I'm not actively selling my work?
Speaker AHe goes, well, you're an amateur artist.
Speaker AI'm like, oh, wait a minute.
Speaker ASo is there a difference between, is that a lower thing or a higher thing?
Speaker AHe goes, well, okay, so professional artist is selling their stuff.
Speaker AAmateur artist is just making it for the love of making it.
Speaker AAnd I'm like, but when people sell it, do they love making it?
Speaker ASome of them do, some of them don't.
Speaker ASome of them, it's a 9 to 5 job.
Speaker ASo if it's a 9 to 5 job, is that person an artist?
Speaker AI don't know.
Speaker AGo ask them how they define what artist is.
Speaker ASo, you know, if somebody's, like I said, putting finger toenail clippings, gluing that to a canvas, or taping a banana to a wall, and they're calling themselves an artist, great.
Speaker AI'm intrigued.
Speaker AI want to find out what their definition is.
Speaker AAnd maybe I adjust my definition, maybe I don't.
Speaker AMaybe it makes me more firm in what my definition is.
Speaker AMy definition works for me.
Speaker AI don't define other people as artists.
Speaker AI think we all have artistic tendencies.
Speaker AI think we're all creative.
Speaker ABut if you know that word artist is tripping you up, don't trip it up.
Speaker AJust define it for yourself and then fulfill that definition.
Speaker AAll right, My second point is the fear.
Speaker AIf you call yourself an artist, people are going to judge you.
Speaker APeople have their own concepts, their own definitions of what an artist is, and they're going to try to impose that upon you.
Speaker AAnd if you don't live up to their expectations, then who cares?
Speaker AThat's them.
Speaker AThat's their problem to deal with, not yours.
Speaker ABut it can affect you and it can cause imposter syndrome because you haven't earned the title that they're defining as artist.
Speaker ABut have you earned it according to your definition?
Speaker AIf you have, great.
Speaker AIf you haven't, then you're a work in progress, and that's okay, too.
Speaker AThat's not a problem with that.
Speaker AYou know, as an artist, yeah.
Speaker AI want people to, you know, comment on my stuff.
Speaker AI want people to be impacted by it.
Speaker AThat external validation.
Speaker AIf other people call me an artist, great, that's great.
Speaker ABut if you don't have that internal belief that you are an artist and that external validation is probably never going to happen for you, so it's nice.
Speaker AThe more important thing is to have that internal belief that you're an artist.
Speaker ANo matter, you know, poet, writer, dancer, whatever it is, have that internal belief first.
Speaker AThe external validation will come because people are looking for connection and real experiences.
Speaker ASo it'll eventually come.
Speaker AIt may not come right away.
Speaker AIt may not come when you want it to, but it will eventually come.
Speaker AAnd it may have to wait until after you die and people look through yourself and go, oh, my God, he was brilliant.
Speaker AThat external validation shouldn't be your guiding thing.
Speaker AYour internal belief, your internal definition should be that defining belief.
Speaker AAnd you can use fear as a signal that you're doing meaningful work.
Speaker AIf you're afraid to put it out there, there's a reason for that.
Speaker AAnd I think getting over that fear, getting over that hump and putting it out there and let other people look at it, I think that right there is being an artist.
Speaker ABecause you're overcoming something and you're sharing whatever it is that you're sharing with the world, and you're making yourself a little bit vulnerable because what if nobody likes it?
Speaker AWhatever.
Speaker AEveryone's calling your baby ugly.
Speaker AWell, at least you're giving it a shot.
Speaker AAnd that's really vital for me to be an artist is to give it a shot.
Speaker AAnd if it works, great.
Speaker AIf it doesn't, okay, cool.
Speaker AIt was a great practice.
Speaker AIt was a great work in progress, and I'm good with that.
Speaker ASo, yes, you are going to be judged.
Speaker APeople are going to say, no, no, you're not an artist.
Speaker AYou have no artistic talent, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker AIs it according to your definition or theirs?
Speaker AGo by your definition.
Speaker AMy third point is the power of naming it.
Speaker AIf you call yourself an artist, then that's going to change how others see you.
Speaker AThey're going to have their own preconceived notions of what an artist is.
Speaker ABut now you're just not another Joe Blow on the street.
Speaker AYou're an artist.
Speaker AAnd whether that be a good connotation or a bad connotation, in their mind, you can't control that.
Speaker ABut it controls how you act.
Speaker AAnd if you're living up to your definition of what an artist is, that's very powerful.
Speaker AIt changes how you see yourself and it gives you a confidence boost.
Speaker AAnd that's what we all need as artists is we all need that little shot of dopamine to, you know, feel good about what we're doing and to, you know, keep us going, keep us interested in what we're doing.
Speaker ASo it's going to change how you see yourself when you call yourself an artist, because now you are living up to your definition of what an artist is, not.
Speaker ANot anyone else's.
Speaker AYour definition.
Speaker AYou know, there's so many stories of famous artists who struggled with the same thing, and they didn't call themselves artists or they didn't call themselves painters, or maybe they did.
Speaker AThey didn't sell anything while they were alive.
Speaker AThen afterwards.
Speaker AVan Gogh is a perfect example of it.
Speaker ADidn't really sell anything while he was alive, but after he died, oh, my God.
Speaker AAnd he's considered one of the greatest artists around.
Speaker ABut some people, you know, he had to deal with a system that, you know, well, you got to show in, you know, in these schools and these galleries, and you gotta get paid for it, and you gotta have a, you know, a patron and.
Speaker AAnd all that kind of jazz.
Speaker AAnd they struggled with it, you know, these artists, they struggled with that.
Speaker AAnd many of them died penniless and, you know, unknown.
Speaker AUntil at some point somebody looked at it and said, no, this is art.
Speaker AThis is fantastic.
Speaker AAnd so I'm hoping that doesn't happen with you.
Speaker AOkay, I call myself an artist.
Speaker AOther people call me an artist, and hey, that's great.
Speaker ASo I won't have to deal with that.
Speaker AI have sold stuff, so I don't have to deal with being penniless.
Speaker AI've already sold stuff.
Speaker ASo by that definition, if you're going to use that as your definition, I've already done it.
Speaker ADone it and bought the T shirt.
Speaker AProbably made the T shirt, then bought it, and then I'm wearing it.
Speaker ASo there's, you know, like I said, lots of artists out there that don't have that.
Speaker AI still call them an artist.
Speaker AThey still brought something into the world.
Speaker AThey were still bold enough to show somebody, even if nobody, while they were alive or respected it, liked it, anything like that, bought it.
Speaker AI still call him an artist.
Speaker AAnd, you know, dare I call you an artist?
Speaker AOnly you can call yourself an artist.
Speaker AAnd then it's up to the rest of the world to either agree with it or disagree with it.
Speaker AAnd if they disagree with it, whatever.
Speaker ADoes it bring joy in your life?
Speaker ADoes it bring something of satisfaction in your life?
Speaker ACall yourself an artist and.
Speaker AAnd enjoy the new found power that you have.
Speaker AAll right.
Speaker ANow we're going to talk about the fourth point, which is practical steps to start owning your new title as artist.
Speaker ASo watch it, you know, wherever you're at, watching on YouTube or listening on your podcast app, whether you're driving or whatever you're doing.
Speaker AI want you to say something with me.
Speaker AI am an artist.
Speaker AOkay, go ahead, your turn.
Speaker ANo, no, no.
Speaker ASay it like you mean it.
Speaker AI am an artist.
Speaker APerfect.
Speaker AThere you go.
Speaker ASay to yourself, first you have to believe it first.
Speaker AI can't give it to you.
Speaker AI wish I could, but I can't give it to you.
Speaker AYou gotta believe it, because you've got to define whatever it is calling yourself an artist is.
Speaker AThen other people, once they see that you're calling yourself an artist and that you believe you're an artist, they're gonna start calling you an artist.
Speaker AHow can you do that?
Speaker AWell, you can share it with a good friend, somebody that you trust, and somebody that believes in you.
Speaker AYou can share your work online and, you know, make it official to the entire universe.
Speaker AHey, I'm an artist.
Speaker AWhatever it is for you, go ahead and do it.
Speaker ABut you gotta start believing it yourself.
Speaker AAnd you gotta start telling yourself that good self talk.
Speaker AI'm an artist.
Speaker ANow, ways you can do that, you can build rituals to reinforce that creative identity for yourself.
Speaker ASo maybe you wear a funny hat when you go painting, or maybe you go shirtless when you're making music.
Speaker AWhatever it is, doesn't matter.
Speaker AIt's a little ritual for you to reinforce that you're an artist.
Speaker AHey, this is my creative time.
Speaker AThis is my artist time.
Speaker AI got to wear a special thing of underwear.
Speaker AWhatever it is, don't care.
Speaker AIt's all good.
Speaker AYou can share it with other people if you want to.
Speaker AMaybe that helps define who you are and what you do.
Speaker ABut it doesn't start unless you own it.
Speaker AI can't own it for you.
Speaker AThat's all up to you.
Speaker AAnd the last point I want to bring up to you is giving yourself permission to grow.
Speaker ASo as an artist, I make beautiful mistakes, messy mistakes, just the best mistakes.
Speaker AI've got the best mistakes in the world.
Speaker AIt's not about being perfect.
Speaker AYour work is probably not going to be perfect from the moment you call yourself an artist.
Speaker AAnd that's okay.
Speaker AThat's all right.
Speaker AYou learn from mistakes.
Speaker AAnd hey, sometimes you get started on something and it goes a completely different direction, and that's, hey, great, let it go.
Speaker AYou know, just follow that direction.
Speaker AAnd if it leads you nowhere, okay, cool.
Speaker ASo you've been down that path, you've gained knowledge.
Speaker ASo it's not a failure if you gain knowledge from it.
Speaker AYou know, you can still experiment, fail, learn.
Speaker AJust be an artist.
Speaker AThat's the big thing.
Speaker AJust do that.
Speaker AAnd the last idea I want to leave you with is leave room for your identity to evolve.
Speaker ASo you know you're an artist because of A, B and C, right?
Speaker AOkay, great.
Speaker ABut in 10 years, you might be, I'm an artist because of D, E and F, or G, H and I, or the square root of the color red.
Speaker AWhatever that evolution is going to take is going to happen and take place.
Speaker AThat's okay, too.
Speaker AAllow yourself to evolve and allow yourself to grow, because that's how you're going to be a better artist.
Speaker AAnd when that definition changes, adjust to the change in definition.
Speaker AOkay, maybe you start off being a writer and you move over to music.
Speaker AAll right, well, then you're going to have to, you know, take.
Speaker AIf you don't have any music knowledge, you're going to take a step back.
Speaker AYou're still an artist, but now you're pursuing a different path.
Speaker AThat's good, because then you can add that music into your writing and.
Speaker AAnd maybe that'll help you write better song lyrics.
Speaker AAnd then you'll just struggle with the notes, but leave room for yourself to evolve.
Speaker AAll right, that's all I have for you today.
Speaker AYou know, here's the thing.
Speaker AYou don't wait for somebody to tap you on the shoulder and say, hey, you're an artist.
Speaker AWe talked about a few things here, didn't we?
Speaker AWe talked about, you know, basically making that definition of artist for yourself.
Speaker AWe talked about the fear of being judged, the power of naming it, the practical steps to own it and to give yourself permission to grow.
Speaker ANow, what I'd like for you to do is I'd love to.
Speaker AFor you to share the first moment that you said you're an artist, either in the comments on the website or social media or anything like that.
Speaker AYou can email me whatever you want to do, but I'd love to hear how and when you decided that you were an artist.
Speaker AAnd maybe you haven't decided that yet.
Speaker AWhat's holding you back?
Speaker AYou can email me, timothy@createartpodcast.com and.
Speaker AAnd let me know.
Speaker AThat's probably the best way to get in contact with me.
Speaker ASo.
Speaker AHello, fellow artist.
Speaker AI'm glad you've joined us.
Speaker ANow, if you'd like to comment on the show or be on the show, I'm covering a bunch of topics in this series.
Speaker AEmail me timothy createartpodcast.com and let me know what you would like.
Speaker AYou can check the show notes to see all the topics and if it's something that we've already covered, that's okay.
Speaker AGet in contact with me.
Speaker AI want to have your insight on this.
Speaker AI want to feature you on the show.
Speaker AIf you have, you know, critique of the show or would like to see something or like to see less of something, email me, Let me know.
Speaker ABe happy to do that and have that conversation with you.
Speaker ANow I know I said something about, you know, sharing your with a friend, so share this podcast with a friend that may, you know, be considering calling themselves an artist.
Speaker AThey're not quite there yet.
Speaker AFeel free to share this episode with them.
Speaker AIt'll help them out tremendously as I know it's already helped you out.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker ASpeaking about sharing, I run another podcast called Find a Podcast about.
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Speaker ACheck it out.
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Speaker AThe other thing that I'm doing is I've started my own business called TKB Podcast Studio.
Speaker AFind that@tkbpodcaststudio.com and there I'm helping folks start their own podcast and lead through the noise with quiet professionalism.
Speaker ASo check it out.
Speaker ASee all the stuff that I'm doing over there.
Speaker AAll right, now it's time for you to get on with your day.
Speaker AI'm going to get on with mine.
Speaker ASo go out there, tame that inner critic.
Speaker ACreate more than you consume.
Speaker AGo out there and make some art for somebody you love.
Speaker AYou, artist, you yourself.
Speaker AI'll talk to you next time.
Speaker AIt.