1 00:00:00,270 --> 00:00:03,300 Nobody told me XYZ was gonna happen. So they tell 2 00:00:03,300 --> 00:00:05,520 you up front with chemo. Oh, you might feel sick. 3 00:00:05,820 --> 00:00:09,090 You might be extra tired. You might be bald. Nobody 4 00:00:09,090 --> 00:00:12,660 tells you that your eyes may change colors or that 5 00:00:12,660 --> 00:00:15,900 your fingernails may rod out while on your hands and 6 00:00:15,900 --> 00:00:18,150 stink to high hell. Nobody's told me any of those 7 00:00:18,150 --> 00:00:23,850 things. So as the accumulation of side effects became the 8 00:00:23,850 --> 00:00:27,240 size of a mountain, I CA I, it turned humorous. 9 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:28,350 You know, it was one of those things where I 10 00:00:28,350 --> 00:00:31,800 thought, Holy crap, this is so fun. 11 00:00:33,470 --> 00:00:36,950 Hi, and welcome to Podcaster. Stories each episode. We will 12 00:00:36,950 --> 00:00:39,800 have a conversation with podcasters from across the globe and 13 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:43,010 share their story. What motivates them by the start to 14 00:00:43,020 --> 00:00:46,820 the show are the crucial. And More, we'll also talk 15 00:00:46,820 --> 00:00:48,890 about their personal lives in some of the things that 16 00:00:48,890 --> 00:00:50,900 have happened that made them, the person who you are 17 00:00:50,900 --> 00:00:55,700 to do. And now here's your host. Danny Brown hi, 18 00:00:55,700 --> 00:00:57,980 and welcome to Podcaster. Stories where we get to meet 19 00:00:57,980 --> 00:00:59,990 the people behind the voices of the show. As we 20 00:00:59,990 --> 00:01:02,360 all listen to him this week, I'm talking with Fitz 21 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:06,110 Koehler host The Fitzness The Fitzness shop, where Fitz talks 22 00:01:06,110 --> 00:01:09,140 about the smart, crazy, effective, and fun stuff in fitness 23 00:01:09,830 --> 00:01:12,590 Fitz is also an offer and TV personality and has 24 00:01:12,590 --> 00:01:14,510 an incredible story to share with you will speak about 25 00:01:14,510 --> 00:01:14,960 it in the show. 26 00:01:15,500 --> 00:01:18,350 So Fitz, welcome to Podcaster Stories, really appreciate you coming 27 00:01:18,350 --> 00:01:21,470 on. How about you? Tell us about yourself and your 28 00:01:21,470 --> 00:01:21,770 show. 29 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,800 Sure. Well thank you, Danny. Thank you for having me. 30 00:01:25,490 --> 00:01:28,430 So I'm a fitness expert. And what I do is 31 00:01:28,430 --> 00:01:31,790 basically I do a variety of things that helped me 32 00:01:31,790 --> 00:01:36,920 do one very specific thing, which is helpful live better 33 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,880 and longer by making fitness, understandable, attainable, and find. And 34 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,790 so I've done that for decades on TV, radio books, 35 00:01:43,790 --> 00:01:47,270 magazines. Anyway, I could reach a mass audience is where 36 00:01:47,270 --> 00:01:49,250 I focus my efforts. I do a lot of corporate 37 00:01:49,250 --> 00:01:54,380 speaking engagements and spokesperson work because corporations bring people and 38 00:01:54,380 --> 00:01:57,080 that's what I want. I want people to help. I 39 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,890 also am a professional race announcer So I host to 40 00:02:00,890 --> 00:02:02,960 start and finish lines of some of the largest, most 41 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:07,040 prestigious running events in America from the Los Angeles marathon, 42 00:02:07,070 --> 00:02:09,380 Buffalo marathon, Philadelphia, a big Sur. 43 00:02:09,380 --> 00:02:11,750 I announced the D C wonder woman and Batman run 44 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:17,540 series. So I am once again, handling mass audiences and 45 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:22,670 helping them achieve their goals within sports and celebrate those 46 00:02:22,670 --> 00:02:25,430 goals as well. I own a youth running a program 47 00:02:25,430 --> 00:02:28,910 called The Morning Mile and I'm also an author and 48 00:02:28,910 --> 00:02:31,130 I have a brand new book out called My Noisy 49 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:32,450 Cancer Comeback. 50 00:02:33,380 --> 00:02:34,700 Wow. So you get busy. 51 00:02:35,180 --> 00:02:37,460 I like to stay as busy as possible because man, 52 00:02:37,460 --> 00:02:40,010 do I love what I do? You know, that a 53 00:02:40,010 --> 00:02:42,680 moment when I'm not working on lesson with my kids, 54 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,840 it's a moment that I want to be working or 55 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,580 with my kids. So, yeah. 56 00:02:47,180 --> 00:02:50,270 And, and you mentioned obviously the podcast that speaks about 57 00:02:50,270 --> 00:02:52,280 the, the fun stuff in fitness and not just the, 58 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,380 obviously a bit talks about the fitness goals and plans, 59 00:02:54,380 --> 00:02:56,900 et cetera, but I know you make up a fun, 60 00:02:57,350 --> 00:02:59,800 you know, endeavor much like you do with your offline, 61 00:02:59,890 --> 00:03:02,500 you know, a fitness programs, et cetera. So how did 62 00:03:02,500 --> 00:03:04,270 he do the idea of the show come about? 63 00:03:04,890 --> 00:03:08,760 You know, I only, I only put information out there 64 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,210 when I have something to say, and I do enjoy 65 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,640 the medium of writing. You know, people like to read 66 00:03:14,640 --> 00:03:17,100 articles their, their, their evergreen forever, or people can go 67 00:03:17,100 --> 00:03:20,190 back and review, but there's something special about being able 68 00:03:20,190 --> 00:03:24,390 to put a personal touch on the communication, whether it's 69 00:03:24,390 --> 00:03:27,180 the inflection of your voice or a pounding your fists 70 00:03:27,180 --> 00:03:30,840 on a desk. You know, I think you have video 71 00:03:30,870 --> 00:03:35,640 and audio provide just a lot more exciting and understandable 72 00:03:35,670 --> 00:03:38,580 version of communication. So I started the Fitzness show back 73 00:03:38,580 --> 00:03:43,080 in 2016. So far we've recorded over a hundred episodes 74 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,450 in there and they ranged. So I get into the 75 00:03:45,450 --> 00:03:48,510 nitty-gritty nuts and bolts of fitness, you know, how to 76 00:03:48,510 --> 00:03:50,700 become, fit, how to achieve your ideal weight with the 77 00:03:50,700 --> 00:03:54,840 exact formula for weight loss, how why, and how to 78 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,010 pursue strength training. 79 00:03:56,010 --> 00:03:59,670 And even within that niche, how to pursue it within 80 00:03:59,670 --> 00:04:02,670 certain sports. And then we talk a lot about really 81 00:04:02,670 --> 00:04:06,990 cool products for athletes and, and folks are just getting 82 00:04:06,990 --> 00:04:11,970 started with a fitness and we've talked to fitness celebrities 83 00:04:11,970 --> 00:04:15,270 and athletes and coaches, and you know, anything that makes 84 00:04:15,270 --> 00:04:18,580 people a, a little more motivated. You know, I, I 85 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:22,020 do understand that even while I have tons of incredible 86 00:04:22,020 --> 00:04:24,900 answers, I'm not the only person with an answer. So 87 00:04:25,170 --> 00:04:27,270 it's nice to speak to other people who have some 88 00:04:27,270 --> 00:04:28,590 golden nuggets to share. 89 00:04:29,130 --> 00:04:30,810 And you had mentioned, obviously you're working with a lot 90 00:04:30,810 --> 00:04:35,190 of people, you were celebrities, movie stars you've even worked 91 00:04:35,190 --> 00:04:38,550 with the wiggles, which is cool. Cause that was one 92 00:04:38,550 --> 00:04:40,320 of my kids at my book. My kids loved that 93 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,390 show a growing up. And I think we took them 94 00:04:42,390 --> 00:04:45,900 to like a live performance and Toronto, maybe two or 95 00:04:45,900 --> 00:04:48,660 three years back. So what, what's it like? I mean, 96 00:04:48,660 --> 00:04:51,150 obviously you share some horror stories about working with them, 97 00:04:51,150 --> 00:04:54,150 some mistakes that you've made, maybe when you were working 98 00:04:54,150 --> 00:04:56,550 with them, what's that like, you know, working with people 99 00:04:56,550 --> 00:04:56,970 like that, 100 00:04:57,630 --> 00:05:01,170 Do you know what I'm not starstruck? The only thing 101 00:05:01,170 --> 00:05:04,470 that's ever left me a little bit excited and giddy 102 00:05:04,470 --> 00:05:09,240 has been American presidents, some American president. So I'm a 103 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,300 raging fan of my country. And so American presidents have 104 00:05:12,300 --> 00:05:14,550 really floated my boat when it comes to celebrities. I'm 105 00:05:14,550 --> 00:05:17,370 not Google crazy. So I'm able to just greet them 106 00:05:17,370 --> 00:05:21,570 casually and, you know, obviously respect what they do and 107 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,950 the list of people I've interviewed includes Brooke shields and 108 00:05:25,950 --> 00:05:30,510 Christina Applegate and, you know, tons of Olympians, tons of 109 00:05:30,510 --> 00:05:34,860 athletes, ah, the crew for me, ESPN to so many 110 00:05:34,860 --> 00:05:37,890 actors, I really couldn't even pull them up the wiggles. 111 00:05:38,220 --> 00:05:39,660 I got to tell you out of all of the 112 00:05:39,660 --> 00:05:42,240 people that I have now, I have, I have interviewed 113 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,570 the wiggles when I met them for the first time 114 00:05:45,570 --> 00:05:47,880 in Chicago. And I probably worked with the wiggles almost 115 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,670 a dozen times now over the years, but they were 116 00:05:50,670 --> 00:05:52,800 coming in off of their tour bus into the arena 117 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,500 where I was going to interview them on video before 118 00:05:55,500 --> 00:05:59,750 the show and the purple Jeff wiggle. He walked by 119 00:05:59,780 --> 00:06:02,930 and that's the first time of the celebrity. I got 120 00:06:02,930 --> 00:06:05,810 a little like, woo. I felt, I felt like I 121 00:06:05,810 --> 00:06:08,660 shouldn't be seeing this. It was almost like peeking in 122 00:06:08,660 --> 00:06:11,840 on Santa Claus. So they were very cute, very sweet. 123 00:06:11,840 --> 00:06:14,120 They came out one by one and we did a 124 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,090 little workouts together and talked about their healthy habits. And 125 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:18,740 it was just adorable. 126 00:06:18,740 --> 00:06:22,190 There, there was so much fun, you know, celebrities, just 127 00:06:22,190 --> 00:06:24,950 regular people. There's that book called everybody poops. And I 128 00:06:24,950 --> 00:06:28,040 truly believe that, you know, and there's nobody that's truly 129 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:32,540 better than the others, but you know, their careers quite 130 00:06:32,540 --> 00:06:35,810 often in real rely on there, physique, you know, Brad, 131 00:06:35,810 --> 00:06:39,170 Pitt's, wouldn't be Brad Pitt or if he was out 132 00:06:39,170 --> 00:06:43,250 of shape. So there is a unique burden on certain 133 00:06:43,250 --> 00:06:47,630 types of actors and performers to be in great shape 134 00:06:47,660 --> 00:06:52,280 and maintain beauty regimens above what you are or I 135 00:06:52,280 --> 00:06:57,260 have to do. And so I really enjoy the fact 136 00:06:57,260 --> 00:06:59,690 that when I work with celebrities, usually they tell a 137 00:06:59,690 --> 00:07:00,350 really good tale. 138 00:07:00,350 --> 00:07:04,430 They say, I used to do really dumb diets and 139 00:07:04,460 --> 00:07:06,740 gimmicky things. And I found out that it doesn't work. 140 00:07:06,740 --> 00:07:11,900 And so I've committed to exercising often and watching what 141 00:07:11,900 --> 00:07:15,050 I put in my mouth. And so my purpose with 142 00:07:15,050 --> 00:07:19,070 working with celebrities is often for them to tell the 143 00:07:19,070 --> 00:07:22,400 tale that resonates with people, because there are their career 144 00:07:22,820 --> 00:07:26,720 relies on them being fit or being the most beautiful 145 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,810 version of themselves. And, you know, even with my master's 146 00:07:29,810 --> 00:07:32,780 grain exercise for the sciences in all of my years 147 00:07:32,780 --> 00:07:35,570 of experiences. And so I got on a stage with 148 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:39,680 beyond say, And someone in the audience wanted to know 149 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:41,450 how to get a fantastic rear end. 150 00:07:41,930 --> 00:07:45,380 They would ask her not me. And so, you know, 151 00:07:45,380 --> 00:07:48,860 it's and I used celebrity's as a tool. I use 152 00:07:48,860 --> 00:07:50,840 them as a tool in quite often, they're very effective. 153 00:07:51,580 --> 00:07:53,230 And obviously, I mean, you mentioned that you worked with, 154 00:07:53,260 --> 00:07:56,740 you know, various celebrates for years. Have you seen that? 155 00:07:56,990 --> 00:08:00,580 There's a huge disconnect between male and female movie stars 156 00:08:00,580 --> 00:08:03,190 are still, there is more pressure on women to look 157 00:08:03,190 --> 00:08:05,200 a certain way to, to wear a certain way or 158 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:09,400 to have a certain, you know, body index, et cetera. 159 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,370 Is that the case when, when the celebrities come to 160 00:08:12,370 --> 00:08:14,670 you and do you try to help them overcome that? 161 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:15,760 Or is that it never really come up? 162 00:08:17,500 --> 00:08:21,190 Pressure is doled out. Eve equally. And you know, a 163 00:08:21,190 --> 00:08:24,580 lot of people want to waive the women quite often. 164 00:08:24,580 --> 00:08:27,040 Are you or anyone in these little subgroups? We liked 165 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,380 the way the, the pity party PFLAG and where are 166 00:08:29,380 --> 00:08:31,900 the victims and so forth. But no, I see pressure 167 00:08:32,170 --> 00:08:35,020 equally doled out on men. I mean, a Chris Hemsworth 168 00:08:35,020 --> 00:08:37,540 for crying out loud, he is, he doesn't get to 169 00:08:37,540 --> 00:08:40,030 be thorough other than the last Avengers. You know, he 170 00:08:40,030 --> 00:08:43,260 doesn't get to be that guy without abs. And I 171 00:08:43,300 --> 00:08:45,970 do think there's a tremendous amount of pressure on men 172 00:08:46,030 --> 00:08:48,730 as well. They're hitting the gym hard. They have to 173 00:08:48,730 --> 00:08:50,140 watch what they put in the mouth in. Some of 174 00:08:50,530 --> 00:08:53,380 us have seen more men and women have to do 175 00:08:53,380 --> 00:08:59,850 those dramatic weight fluctuations. Remember Tom Hanks in Philadelphia. 176 00:09:00,420 --> 00:09:03,990 Oh. And cast away Matthew McConaughey. He's done it. There's 177 00:09:03,990 --> 00:09:06,600 been so many actors go up and down. So yeah, 178 00:09:06,630 --> 00:09:09,780 I think actually it is, it's possibly in some regard 179 00:09:09,810 --> 00:09:13,200 easier to be a woman, but I, I feel bad 180 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,360 for you guys. They get it too, for certain things. 181 00:09:15,890 --> 00:09:18,020 It's funny. I just read a story about Daniel Crick 182 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:19,790 with a new bond movie coming out in the us 183 00:09:19,790 --> 00:09:23,060 as his last breath out in a James Bond. And 184 00:09:23,060 --> 00:09:26,030 he's 53, you know? So the regime he went through 185 00:09:26,030 --> 00:09:27,800 for this movie is it actually is 15 years ago. 186 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,530 It was completely different. It had to be, as you 187 00:09:30,680 --> 00:09:33,650 mentioned, a toner to his age, his, his fitness, his 188 00:09:33,650 --> 00:09:36,020 body, et cetera. So it just, it's interesting to hear, 189 00:09:36,020 --> 00:09:37,970 as you mentioned, the different things everybody has to go 190 00:09:37,970 --> 00:09:40,040 through for their role needs. 191 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,250 Well, you know, it's interesting with fitness and coming out 192 00:09:43,250 --> 00:09:48,380 of my recent Cancer battle, my, my rule with fitness, 193 00:09:48,380 --> 00:09:51,410 it's always first do no harm. And we hear doctors 194 00:09:51,410 --> 00:09:54,230 have that mantra where, you know, they can injure or 195 00:09:54,230 --> 00:09:56,210 cause harm to the patients. But I do think with 196 00:09:56,210 --> 00:10:00,800 fitness, that's the first priority as well. You shouldn't do 197 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,020 something that's going to hurt you, you know, and if 198 00:10:03,020 --> 00:10:07,640 you make smart progress, if you pursue baby steps, you 199 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,280 can get to your end goal. Even the same goal 200 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,680 you had when you were 20 years younger, if you're 201 00:10:12,680 --> 00:10:16,100 smart about it. And I'm sure Daniel Craig, this is, 202 00:10:16,100 --> 00:10:18,860 is really keen to the fact that he may throw 203 00:10:18,860 --> 00:10:21,770 out his back more easily now than he did before 204 00:10:21,770 --> 00:10:23,900 he can still achieve those extraordinary results. 205 00:10:23,900 --> 00:10:26,480 But you just can't be reckless in the process. 206 00:10:26,660 --> 00:10:28,850 Nope. Did you had mentioned also that you've got various 207 00:10:28,850 --> 00:10:31,760 guests on the podcast and then some of the episodes 208 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:33,290 I was laughing at, as opposed to listen to your 209 00:10:33,290 --> 00:10:35,240 Show are the ones who have done when your daughter 210 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:37,700 Topics you have done with your daughter or your daughter's 211 00:10:37,710 --> 00:10:40,640 teenager. And you're talking about a book from the fifties 212 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,200 and how do we get a husband? And I have 213 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,200 a follow-up episode to that. What's it like record on 214 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:46,580 a show of your doctor and how did that come 215 00:10:46,580 --> 00:10:46,820 about? 216 00:10:47,150 --> 00:10:51,740 Oh, that's hilarious. Ginger is 17. And you know, what 217 00:10:51,740 --> 00:10:54,770 I learned really early on is she has my exact 218 00:10:54,770 --> 00:10:58,250 same skillset as a presenter and a, we call her 219 00:10:58,250 --> 00:11:01,940 Fitz 2.0, the new and improved version. She's just, she's 220 00:11:01,940 --> 00:11:05,000 more beautiful than I am. She's she got on a 221 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:10,670 stage and her first grade play. And when she wasn't 222 00:11:10,670 --> 00:11:12,740 cowshed, all she had to do is read. Maybe three 223 00:11:12,740 --> 00:11:16,220 sentences are from memory. And she stood, stood on this 224 00:11:16,220 --> 00:11:20,960 stage with this extraordinary posture and , and she was 225 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,750 the only kid out of a, 150 of them that 226 00:11:24,110 --> 00:11:27,260 spoke clearly and concisely. And it was beautiful. 227 00:11:27,260 --> 00:11:30,560 And I thought, wow, she is incredible. And, and so 228 00:11:30,560 --> 00:11:32,900 she will go on to be a pro presenter as 229 00:11:32,900 --> 00:11:34,970 well. And she had done race announcing with me, but 230 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,880 she just really funny person. So I saw that article. 231 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,450 It was from, I think it was McCall's in 1950 232 00:11:41,450 --> 00:11:44,720 something, how to get a husband. And it was outlandish 233 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,780 some of the suggestions where, you know, go by the 234 00:11:47,780 --> 00:11:52,580 engineering department out of college and paint a picture. So 235 00:11:52,580 --> 00:11:55,150 the will come and want to meet you. And then 236 00:11:55,390 --> 00:11:57,940 one of them, one of the suggestions was go stand 237 00:11:57,940 --> 00:12:01,750 in a corner and cry, but certainly some guy will 238 00:12:01,750 --> 00:12:04,930 come and, you know, wanting to comfort you and you 239 00:12:04,930 --> 00:12:07,210 may get a husband. So I, I just thought it 240 00:12:07,210 --> 00:12:09,610 would be a lot more funny to bring her in 241 00:12:09,610 --> 00:12:10,510 on the subject. 242 00:12:10,510 --> 00:12:13,720 And then of course the follow-up was the modern day, 243 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,940 2020, how to get a man or how to be 244 00:12:15,940 --> 00:12:18,910 sexy. I think. So it was very, very funny. I 245 00:12:18,910 --> 00:12:20,890 try to keep it very wholesome and clean, and I 246 00:12:20,890 --> 00:12:25,360 think we, we achieve that, but she's hilarious. And you 247 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,850 know, I'm, I'm not opposed to any guests, if they 248 00:12:27,850 --> 00:12:31,420 are going to make my podcast more interesting or exciting 249 00:12:31,420 --> 00:12:32,170 and humorous. 250 00:12:33,090 --> 00:12:35,370 Oh, it's like, I can imagine when we see how 251 00:12:35,370 --> 00:12:38,760 much, you know, society has changed over the last years. 252 00:12:39,420 --> 00:12:41,100 And we always started to look back and I mean, 253 00:12:41,100 --> 00:12:42,810 I can still remember when you were allowed to smoke 254 00:12:42,810 --> 00:12:45,570 on an airplane, for example. And there was a separate 255 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,810 smoking section. 'cause obviously a little current would make all 256 00:12:48,810 --> 00:12:51,750 the difference in a plane with smoking. So it does, 257 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,600 it's funny to see the examples you shared with me, 258 00:12:54,630 --> 00:12:56,670 you know, how a woman should behave and get a 259 00:12:56,670 --> 00:12:59,160 husband because that's her on the road and a life 260 00:12:59,190 --> 00:12:59,850 basically. Right? 261 00:12:59,980 --> 00:13:03,270 Hysterical. Yeah. I mean, I just, through the years and 262 00:13:03,300 --> 00:13:05,940 even between this year and the last year, you know, 263 00:13:05,940 --> 00:13:07,680 if I walk out in my house without a mask 264 00:13:07,680 --> 00:13:09,720 on, people think I'm a gangster. They were like, look 265 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,420 at her. What does she think she is? Show in 266 00:13:12,420 --> 00:13:14,220 her mouth. So, you know what I mean? It just, 267 00:13:15,060 --> 00:13:17,670 I don't know where the world has gone crazy lately, 268 00:13:17,670 --> 00:13:21,690 but, but yeah, things are definitely different in which you 269 00:13:21,690 --> 00:13:24,120 read an article like that. And I understand why there's 270 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,810 a disconnect sometimes between the way my mom did business 271 00:13:27,810 --> 00:13:30,000 and the way she wanted me to do business, because 272 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,840 I thought, well, clearly that some of those guidelines are 273 00:13:34,170 --> 00:13:36,840 out of place. In fact, she used to tell me, 274 00:13:37,500 --> 00:13:40,170 never call the boy. You can even call it a 275 00:13:40,170 --> 00:13:41,670 boy back if he called you first. 276 00:13:41,670 --> 00:13:43,530 So you were just not allowed to dial the boys 277 00:13:43,560 --> 00:13:47,070 number. And so there's a part of me that still 278 00:13:47,070 --> 00:13:49,860 thinks, you know, ginger, don't go pursuing guys. Don't do 279 00:13:49,860 --> 00:13:52,080 that. Don't but I do believe you should be able 280 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,810 to return a phone call. So I don't know, I 281 00:13:54,810 --> 00:13:57,060 kinda like some of the old fashion stuff. And then 282 00:13:57,060 --> 00:14:00,450 some of that obviously needs to be left behind way 283 00:14:00,450 --> 00:14:01,530 behind in the dust. 284 00:14:02,220 --> 00:14:04,470 They're all saying we won't have to become, parents were 285 00:14:04,470 --> 00:14:06,360 always to where I'm not gonna do the things that 286 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,600 my parents' did with my cousin. And we do, you 287 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,580 know, you stop yourself because you have done exactly the 288 00:14:11,580 --> 00:14:11,820 same way. 289 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,330 Now, let me ask you this. Do you look back 290 00:14:15,330 --> 00:14:18,210 and wish your parent's had to intervene when they didn't? 291 00:14:19,650 --> 00:14:22,830 Maybe sometimes that was just a couple of things. When 292 00:14:22,830 --> 00:14:25,140 I was maybe a younger man that I did stuff 293 00:14:25,140 --> 00:14:27,650 that wasn't so good that I had my parents center 294 00:14:27,650 --> 00:14:30,600 or a vendor given me like a stronger moral compass. 295 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,520 If you like, it would've been a whole different story. 296 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,640 So, but I think if you grow as a person 297 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,980 by making mistakes right. And learning from him. So I 298 00:14:37,980 --> 00:14:42,270 think this whole helicopter parent that's for me, one of 299 00:14:42,270 --> 00:14:44,400 the more dangerous for one of the battle of work 300 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,010 aspects of Parenthood at the moment and not allowing your 301 00:14:47,010 --> 00:14:47,810 kids to much of it. 302 00:14:48,780 --> 00:14:52,490 Yeah. Yeah. It's a fine line. I really, my kids 303 00:14:52,490 --> 00:14:55,100 are so good and I just caught my husband. Oh, 304 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,560 not my husband, my son getting into a little mission 305 00:14:57,590 --> 00:15:01,040 last week. And I was terrified him. I gave them 306 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,700 this really abrasive, like get in the car now. And 307 00:15:04,700 --> 00:15:07,670 he, the look of shock on this six foot one 308 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,610 boy, you know, he was like, Oh know, and I 309 00:15:10,610 --> 00:15:13,160 laid it on things just to scare him, just to 310 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,440 let them know how serious it was. And then I 311 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,990 didn't lay on. And it's a tremendous punishment. I think 312 00:15:18,050 --> 00:15:19,970 I gave him the assignment. If you know, you're going 313 00:15:19,970 --> 00:15:22,040 to clean these five rooms and if you ever do 314 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,380 that again, then, then I'm going to drop the hammer. 315 00:15:24,380 --> 00:15:27,440 So I do believe in, you know, some mischief, but 316 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,570 the thing that my daughter and I get into a, 317 00:15:29,570 --> 00:15:33,770 she, she wears just really stupid stuff sometimes is that 318 00:15:33,770 --> 00:15:35,300 it really is an unflattering. 319 00:15:35,750 --> 00:15:38,240 And so I look back and I think about all 320 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,660 the terrible clothes I wore and how I wish my 321 00:15:41,660 --> 00:15:44,570 mother would have stopped me from leaving the house, looking 322 00:15:44,570 --> 00:15:46,820 like a moron. And now I'd try to pay that 323 00:15:46,820 --> 00:15:49,220 forward with gender and say, Oh, those jeans are kind 324 00:15:49,220 --> 00:15:51,710 of where they don't, they don't fit you. You're so 325 00:15:51,710 --> 00:15:54,260 beautiful. These are really unflattering. No mom, they are cool. 326 00:15:54,260 --> 00:15:57,080 So when I back off and so, you know, quite 327 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:58,970 often I just let her walk out of the house 328 00:15:58,970 --> 00:16:01,400 looking like a bozo, but she has got to make 329 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:02,360 that mistake too. Right. 330 00:16:02,770 --> 00:16:05,020 Yeah know. And then you'd mentioned off, so you've got 331 00:16:05,020 --> 00:16:06,640 two kids, you got to change or your daughter and 332 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,270 your son. And you've talked about the program that you've 333 00:16:10,270 --> 00:16:12,790 come up with a The Morning Mile program, where you 334 00:16:12,790 --> 00:16:16,210 get kids involved across the us, Canada and Japan with 335 00:16:16,210 --> 00:16:19,030 mine and routines and fitness. How did that come about? 336 00:16:19,050 --> 00:16:21,520 And what's the, the impact in like, what's the feedback 337 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,440 you've been getting for that? Cause I've been, that's been 338 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:28,300 going for a few years now. 11, 11 years. Yeah. 339 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:32,590 So when my kids were little three and five, my 340 00:16:32,590 --> 00:16:35,530 daughter started kindergarten and some of her friends went to 341 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:39,850 different schools and the moms kept telling me, Oh, Aiden 342 00:16:39,850 --> 00:16:42,460 is running before school. Aden is running that at all. 343 00:16:42,460 --> 00:16:44,200 And I kept thinking, wow, I wish ginger could do 344 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,360 that. That sounds great. I wish my kids could do 345 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,270 that. And I had a few parents that kept bragging 346 00:16:49,270 --> 00:16:52,690 about this and Ben My, you know, fitness innovator, a 347 00:16:53,020 --> 00:16:55,750 light bulb went off and I thought, you know what? 348 00:16:55,810 --> 00:16:57,850 I don't just wish my own kids could do this. 349 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,610 I wish all kids could do this. This is really 350 00:17:00,970 --> 00:17:03,310 quite the solution for a health and fitness. You know, 351 00:17:03,310 --> 00:17:07,150 it's a mindless activity, walking or running requires very little 352 00:17:07,150 --> 00:17:08,980 skill, little to no equipment. 353 00:17:08,980 --> 00:17:10,870 These many of my Morning milers are out there in 354 00:17:10,870 --> 00:17:14,620 boots and sandals who cares or just, you know, moving. 355 00:17:15,220 --> 00:17:18,880 So when I decided that I wanted all kids to 356 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,070 do that, I went to the various schools that had 357 00:17:21,070 --> 00:17:23,320 before school walking, running programs and said, Hey, can you 358 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,240 tell me what you're doing? I would like to create 359 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:29,290 something duplicatable. And so they shared their best practices. I 360 00:17:29,290 --> 00:17:31,510 took some of theirs. I added some of my own, 361 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:36,820 and I created this turn-key program, which is any school 362 00:17:36,820 --> 00:17:40,780 can implement. It's 30 minutes before school walking or running. 363 00:17:40,780 --> 00:17:44,260 There is no coaching choreography or instruction whatsoever. It's just 364 00:17:44,290 --> 00:17:48,010 literally you let everyone come out and do loops, whether 365 00:17:48,010 --> 00:17:49,950 they're students or family, faculty. 366 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,310 And then we make it really fun, really welcoming, really 367 00:17:53,310 --> 00:17:55,980 rewarding. We have music playing. We have a great system 368 00:17:55,980 --> 00:18:01,320 of rewards and my Morning milers are they blow our 369 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:06,630 mind. So we have individual elementary students that complete six 370 00:18:06,630 --> 00:18:11,460 or 700 miles per school year. We have small elementary 371 00:18:11,460 --> 00:18:15,000 schools or middle schools completing over 20,000 miles for school 372 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:19,230 year and a yeah, it's funded by corporations. So, you 373 00:18:19,230 --> 00:18:22,500 know, schools don't often have money to put into fitness. 374 00:18:22,500 --> 00:18:24,630 They're too worried about math and science. And I get 375 00:18:24,630 --> 00:18:28,080 that. So we have allowed the corporate corporate world to 376 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,650 invest in the schools and the, and the students. 377 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,620 And in return, we allow them to market their business 378 00:18:34,620 --> 00:18:36,570 on the field with a big banner. You know, it 379 00:18:36,570 --> 00:18:41,730 could be Bob's plumbing or, you know, ABC hospital or 380 00:18:42,120 --> 00:18:44,220 Aquafina a water company. It doesn't matter to me as 381 00:18:44,220 --> 00:18:47,160 long as it's a wholesome family-friendly product, we're happy to 382 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:51,810 share their banner. And yeah. So in The Morning Mile 383 00:18:51,810 --> 00:18:57,060 is in over 400 schools worldwide. My kids have completed 384 00:18:57,300 --> 00:18:59,820 millions and millions of miles is actually kind of stopped 385 00:18:59,850 --> 00:19:02,190 keeping track. I just couldn't keep up with it anymore. 386 00:19:02,610 --> 00:19:05,400 And yeah, I feel like these kids, and not only 387 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,640 have a better start on life and I have a 388 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:12,000 habit that they can continue into their nineties for certain, 389 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,010 because anyone is, as long as you are able to 390 00:19:14,010 --> 00:19:15,840 walk, you can get up and go for a walk 391 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:19,410 around in your house, your block, your neighborhood, whatever And 392 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,290 I I believe soon we'll be seeing an Olympian say, 393 00:19:22,290 --> 00:19:25,650 you know, I've got my start back in elementary school 394 00:19:25,650 --> 00:19:27,300 doing this program called The Morning Mile. 395 00:19:27,300 --> 00:19:30,150 And I think we'll see the same for CEOs of 396 00:19:30,150 --> 00:19:36,330 major organizations are just really teaching these kids consistency, discipline, 397 00:19:37,290 --> 00:19:41,610 attaining goals, and having fun, being healthy. And that's it. 398 00:19:41,660 --> 00:19:44,360 I love the fact that it's not structured. It's, you 399 00:19:44,360 --> 00:19:46,280 know, the kids or the parents of the faculty just 400 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:47,870 gets it out and it does a Walker or On 401 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,060 or whatever. I always called them up. When my kids 402 00:19:50,060 --> 00:19:51,080 are on a bus, I'm just saying that you have 403 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,590 to run and their sillies out to the house to 404 00:19:54,590 --> 00:19:57,200 get out. And that, but as you mentioned, it belts 405 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,360 habits. And I don't know if you've read James Clear's 406 00:19:59,360 --> 00:20:03,350 book, atomic habits. I had asked them and it points 407 00:20:03,350 --> 00:20:05,150 to your very point now at a punch to your 408 00:20:05,150 --> 00:20:08,240 point had a box and it can't get completely glues 409 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,180 with the point where it's about building habits to achieve 410 00:20:11,180 --> 00:20:14,030 goals, as opposed to setting goals and not reaching them. 411 00:20:14,030 --> 00:20:17,150 Cause you don't have the habit to attain that. So, 412 00:20:17,870 --> 00:20:20,570 and especially with kids because kids, you know, their, their 413 00:20:20,570 --> 00:20:21,950 minds are all over the place. 414 00:20:21,950 --> 00:20:23,420 It can be a here, here, here, here, or at 415 00:20:23,420 --> 00:20:26,870 school, but to get habits early on an easy, a 416 00:20:26,870 --> 00:20:28,130 ti attainable habits, is that 417 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,280 Awesome? Absolutely. And you know what, like you said, it 418 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,860 gets their youthful energy out. Are there sillies out? And 419 00:20:33,860 --> 00:20:36,530 when they show up to class, there are settled. There 420 00:20:36,530 --> 00:20:38,660 are a lot calmer or they're ready to learn. They 421 00:20:38,660 --> 00:20:42,860 behave better. There's so many benefits. Principals reach out and 422 00:20:42,860 --> 00:20:47,470 say, ah, where you have slashed our problem with tardiness 423 00:20:47,470 --> 00:20:48,970 because the kids want to be there at The Morning 424 00:20:48,970 --> 00:20:52,030 Mile. So they naturally arrive at class on time. We 425 00:20:52,030 --> 00:20:56,050 give out far fewer referrals and punishments because our kids 426 00:20:56,050 --> 00:20:59,620 are far better behaved because they've got that energy out. 427 00:20:59,620 --> 00:21:03,550 And then the teacher, you know, I I've been hit 428 00:21:03,550 --> 00:21:05,650 with hugs and it felt like I was being tackled 429 00:21:05,650 --> 00:21:08,050 by a, an American football player because teachers are saying, 430 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,690 Oh my God, my third grade boys are sitting still, 431 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:11,590 thank you so much. 432 00:21:11,590 --> 00:21:15,430 So it really is beneficial and so many ways. And 433 00:21:15,430 --> 00:21:19,540 not just for kids, I know as a grownup in 434 00:21:19,540 --> 00:21:22,960 society, whether I'm working or being a parent an early 435 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,710 morning workout, just kind of expels any stress I have. 436 00:21:26,710 --> 00:21:29,290 And it gives me that a long time to think 437 00:21:29,290 --> 00:21:32,650 if I'm swimming and there's absolutely nothing to think about 438 00:21:32,650 --> 00:21:34,870 are nothing to entertain me. But the bottom of the 439 00:21:34,870 --> 00:21:39,070 pool, I certainly am focusing on my next step as 440 00:21:39,070 --> 00:21:41,860 a professional speaker or new topics to talk about with 441 00:21:41,860 --> 00:21:45,280 my podcast. So yeah. Exercise goes a long way from 442 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:46,720 the beginning to the end of your life. If it 443 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:47,080 matters, 444 00:21:47,550 --> 00:21:50,190 You know, you'd mentioned earlier you, how about your cancer 445 00:21:50,220 --> 00:21:54,480 or your recent cancer journey and that, that happened in 446 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,510 2018? I think, I mean, obviously you'd been busy with 447 00:21:57,510 --> 00:22:01,350 fitness programs and TV and the podcast, and then you 448 00:22:01,350 --> 00:22:04,140 get diagnosed with breast cancer. So what, what was it 449 00:22:04,450 --> 00:22:07,380 from being a composer? A silly question probably. But what 450 00:22:07,380 --> 00:22:10,410 was that like? And what was it at a time 451 00:22:10,710 --> 00:22:13,350 when you were thinking, I can't do the things that 452 00:22:13,350 --> 00:22:14,820 I've been doing up to now. I won't be able 453 00:22:14,820 --> 00:22:15,630 to do this moving forward. 454 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:21,360 So great questions. And I, you know, as I was 455 00:22:21,360 --> 00:22:25,160 diagnosed, I thought for certain I'm dying, you know, I, 456 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,780 I have I'm I'm the ultimate optimist, but I couldn't 457 00:22:27,780 --> 00:22:30,000 use that at that point in the second I found 458 00:22:30,810 --> 00:22:33,150 the lump and then the doctor said, yeah, we see 459 00:22:33,150 --> 00:22:35,790 that. And three hard swollen lymph nodes. I thought, Oh 460 00:22:35,790 --> 00:22:38,310 my gosh, this thing has taken me out. Cause I 461 00:22:38,310 --> 00:22:40,890 had had a clean mammogram less than seven weeks prior 462 00:22:41,010 --> 00:22:43,620 and clean mammogram and then six and a half weeks 463 00:22:43,620 --> 00:22:45,930 later, I found the lump. So, you know, I had 464 00:22:45,930 --> 00:22:52,050 to get passed the death and not see my kids 465 00:22:52,050 --> 00:22:54,780 grow up. You know, that was basically the, the laser 466 00:22:54,780 --> 00:22:57,690 focus. But then once I got my feet underneath me 467 00:22:57,690 --> 00:22:59,790 in my doctors convinced me that the types of breast 468 00:22:59,790 --> 00:23:00,900 cancer I have is curable. 469 00:23:00,900 --> 00:23:04,860 In fact, 94% of all breast cancers are curable that 470 00:23:04,860 --> 00:23:09,150 I, I instantly decided, well, I am not letting this 471 00:23:09,150 --> 00:23:12,690 disease a win. Not that there were points to give. 472 00:23:12,690 --> 00:23:14,580 Not only was I not only had I intended to 473 00:23:14,580 --> 00:23:18,600 survive, but my career is extraordinary. It's one of my 474 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,080 driving forces for every breath I take. So I decided 475 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,350 I am not missing out on any of my work 476 00:23:25,350 --> 00:23:29,040 obligations. North quality time with my children. So if I 477 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,980 would have taken a year and a half off, absolutely 478 00:23:31,980 --> 00:23:33,930 nobody would've blamed me. They would of said, well, of 479 00:23:33,930 --> 00:23:37,530 course you are going through this nightmare treatment, stay home, 480 00:23:37,530 --> 00:23:41,250 stay in bed. But for me, I just decided, hell 481 00:23:41,250 --> 00:23:43,350 no, I am getting to work. 482 00:23:43,350 --> 00:23:45,950 I'm doing what I do. And what I do predominantly 483 00:23:45,950 --> 00:23:50,720 is I travel 35, 40 weekends of the year across 484 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:55,190 America and announcing races. And my smallest event has 2,500 485 00:23:55,190 --> 00:24:00,140 athletes. My largest has about 35,000 and I just decided 486 00:24:00,290 --> 00:24:03,080 I'm not missing it. I'm going to figure it out. 487 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,530 And I did. So I, I actually made a video 488 00:24:06,530 --> 00:24:08,630 declaring, you know, I had to share with people, I 489 00:24:08,630 --> 00:24:11,000 have breast cancer and I, I didn't wanna share it. 490 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,090 I'm a private person when it comes to my actual 491 00:24:14,090 --> 00:24:16,520 personal life. But knowing that I was gonna go from 492 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,520 two feet of hair, I had waist length, one hair, 493 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,270 two bald. I figured people are going to start asking 494 00:24:23,270 --> 00:24:23,930 questions. 495 00:24:23,930 --> 00:24:26,420 So I better let them know. And so I make 496 00:24:26,420 --> 00:24:29,060 this video and it's very cute. Its still on. Fitzness 497 00:24:29,330 --> 00:24:31,490 both on my website and in my Facebook page, but 498 00:24:31,910 --> 00:24:33,680 I look back and I think, gosh, I was so 499 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,440 naive, but I was so determined. Because I look in 500 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,150 the camera and say, listen, this is what I got. 501 00:24:38,570 --> 00:24:42,080 I'm going to be fine. I am going to probably 502 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:43,790 feel a little bad. I'm going to look kind of 503 00:24:43,790 --> 00:24:47,000 weird, but I will not miss my races. I will 504 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,030 not miss any of the events on my calendar. I 505 00:24:50,030 --> 00:24:52,760 expect no pity. You can root for me, but that's 506 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:57,170 it and onward. And so I didn't know what I 507 00:24:57,170 --> 00:24:59,060 was in for it. It turned out that I got 508 00:24:59,060 --> 00:25:01,730 hit when they gave me the most toxic combination of 509 00:25:01,730 --> 00:25:05,690 chemo drugs. There are, I responded accordingly being violently ill 510 00:25:05,690 --> 00:25:08,480 for five months and then 10 months more of a 511 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:09,290 lesser chemo. 512 00:25:09,290 --> 00:25:11,450 I had the surgery and I had the radiation, but 513 00:25:11,750 --> 00:25:15,170 I never missed an event. And a, it was, it 514 00:25:15,170 --> 00:25:17,540 was awesome. You know, it was really, really hard, but 515 00:25:17,540 --> 00:25:19,400 looking back, I'm really proud of myself. 516 00:25:20,380 --> 00:25:23,200 So you mentioned that you you've got like a really 517 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,760 strong mix of different treatments, six to combat this, but 518 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,710 you still kept, what were your commitments? You still did 519 00:25:29,740 --> 00:25:33,640 what you had planned. How hard was that? Both emotionally 520 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,520 and physically to do that whilst going under the treatment. 521 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,310 So I you know, one of the things I have 522 00:25:39,310 --> 00:25:42,700 said is that if I were, you know, stuffing envelopes 523 00:25:42,700 --> 00:25:44,890 for a living, I would, I would have definitely stayed 524 00:25:44,890 --> 00:25:48,880 home, but I'm so fortunate at that my career I 525 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:53,110 could Subsys subsists on adrenaline alone. You know, when I 526 00:25:53,110 --> 00:25:55,600 got on the stage and there's 30,000 people in front 527 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,280 of me and it's hard to even think of yourself. 528 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,550 So the hard part was a while. There was a 529 00:26:00,550 --> 00:26:01,870 lot of the hard parts, but when, when it came 530 00:26:01,870 --> 00:26:03,700 to work, you know, I would go to the airport 531 00:26:03,700 --> 00:26:05,410 and my husband would drop me off and I'd be 532 00:26:05,410 --> 00:26:08,800 balled and gray and glossy eyed and sick. And he 533 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,270 would say, Hey, how are you going to do this? 534 00:26:10,270 --> 00:26:11,980 And I would just look at them and say, I 535 00:26:11,980 --> 00:26:13,890 just am I, and you know what? I had an 536 00:26:13,890 --> 00:26:17,020 ultimate faith in me. I knew I would be okay. 537 00:26:17,020 --> 00:26:19,900 I knew I would figure it out. And so traveling 538 00:26:19,900 --> 00:26:23,260 with an exploding stomach is not a good time airports 539 00:26:23,260 --> 00:26:26,800 with an exploding stomach, not a good time, but I 540 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,040 would say I asked my race organizations and my race 541 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,140 directors for a little help. I, you know, and I, 542 00:26:32,230 --> 00:26:33,970 I, on occasion I could reach out and saying, Hey, 543 00:26:33,970 --> 00:26:36,370 can you help me get some Ivy fluids while like, 544 00:26:36,370 --> 00:26:38,710 you know, I'm in your town. So I would fly 545 00:26:38,710 --> 00:26:41,410 to California to get off the plane and race director 546 00:26:41,410 --> 00:26:43,830 had a range for me to get a ride over 547 00:26:43,830 --> 00:26:48,210 to a hydration place to go get fluid's in Buffalo, 548 00:26:48,210 --> 00:26:50,880 New York, they had a nurse come to my hotel 549 00:26:51,270 --> 00:26:53,940 room and, and I needed that. I needed that to 550 00:26:53,940 --> 00:26:57,600 stay upright and not be dehydrated, but a even if 551 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,300 I spent the night on the hotel bathroom floor sick, 552 00:27:00,300 --> 00:27:02,460 when my alarm went off in the morning, I would 553 00:27:02,460 --> 00:27:04,590 put on my ally, my running clothes. 554 00:27:04,590 --> 00:27:05,850 Or was it not that I was writing? I hope 555 00:27:05,850 --> 00:27:07,590 nobody thinks that I was running these races that was 556 00:27:07,590 --> 00:27:11,760 purely on the microphone, but I would get dressed and 557 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,370 I would just March forward. And that's sometimes what you 558 00:27:14,370 --> 00:27:16,260 got to do that you just have to March forward. 559 00:27:16,710 --> 00:27:18,630 But then when I got on those stages, it was 560 00:27:18,630 --> 00:27:22,620 like a, nothing was wrong or almost nothing. You know, 561 00:27:22,620 --> 00:27:25,290 I, I, I D I certainly felt some of my 562 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:29,400 side effects while working, but the, the joy filled me 563 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,680 up so much. And that's really, you know, with my 564 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,910 new book, that's one of the main lessons is, or 565 00:27:34,980 --> 00:27:38,490 messages is that pursue your passions, no matter what's going 566 00:27:38,490 --> 00:27:41,280 on, are going wrong in your life. You need to 567 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,070 find your passions and you need to hold on tight 568 00:27:44,070 --> 00:27:44,460 to them. 569 00:27:44,490 --> 00:27:46,620 And if you, if you love animals and you spending 570 00:27:46,620 --> 00:27:48,060 your time at, on the farm, and that could be 571 00:27:48,060 --> 00:27:50,520 a great joy, and now you're in a hospital, fine. 572 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,500 Maybe you can't bring your donkey to the hospital, but 573 00:27:52,500 --> 00:27:55,800 you can get online and watch cute little animal videos. 574 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,460 You know, there's always a way to include your passions 575 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:03,630 and your present. And I think that my running community 576 00:28:03,630 --> 00:28:05,850 saved my life, that in my time with my kids, 577 00:28:05,850 --> 00:28:11,670 it just, I, I found the formula for thriving while 578 00:28:11,670 --> 00:28:12,300 surviving. 579 00:28:12,650 --> 00:28:15,260 And, and obviously you had mentioned that you were very 580 00:28:15,260 --> 00:28:18,830 upfront about your diagnosis and you'd made the video and 581 00:28:18,830 --> 00:28:22,250 you see, and you, you probably are pure you baldness. 582 00:28:22,460 --> 00:28:25,160 And you know that there is also a treatment and 583 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:26,900 that takes peripheral into the title of your book, I 584 00:28:26,930 --> 00:28:30,110 think, which is My, Noisy, Cancer come back. What you 585 00:28:30,110 --> 00:28:33,230 really epitomizes, you know, that the journey you went through 586 00:28:33,740 --> 00:28:36,080 and how others can learn from it, with their own, 587 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,990 if they have gone through a similar process, no, also 588 00:28:38,990 --> 00:28:42,290 written a book. It can be hard for anybody, but 589 00:28:42,290 --> 00:28:43,910 when you were going for a treatment and you're gonna 590 00:28:43,910 --> 00:28:46,460 be feeling drained and tired, how hard was it? And 591 00:28:46,460 --> 00:28:48,710 where are you ever wondering why you started writing on 592 00:28:48,710 --> 00:28:49,130 the first place? 593 00:28:49,130 --> 00:28:52,220 Yeah. You know, and you know what? I wish I 594 00:28:52,220 --> 00:28:54,380 would have known I was going to write a book 595 00:28:54,380 --> 00:28:57,830 from the start because I, you know, two things. When 596 00:28:57,830 --> 00:29:00,830 I, as I went through the treatment, I didn't let 597 00:29:00,830 --> 00:29:03,440 anybody know what was going on. I they know what 598 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,120 I was being treated and they knew I was fall, 599 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:06,770 but I would say I was always smiling and saying, 600 00:29:06,830 --> 00:29:08,930 I'm fine. I'm fine. Thank you for your great, I 601 00:29:08,930 --> 00:29:11,810 never let on that. I was sick or crying my 602 00:29:11,810 --> 00:29:15,110 eyes out every day from stress. You know, I just 603 00:29:15,110 --> 00:29:17,930 kept a, a smile on my face publicly because my 604 00:29:17,930 --> 00:29:21,560 job is to care for other people. Right. So what 605 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,050 happened is, you know, a couple of months into the 606 00:29:24,050 --> 00:29:29,480 process, I started thinking, well, nobody told me XYZ was 607 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:29,960 gonna happen. 608 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,640 So they tell you up front with chemo, Oh, you 609 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,610 might feel sick. You might be extra tired. You might 610 00:29:34,610 --> 00:29:38,120 be bald. Nobody tells you that your eyes may change 611 00:29:38,150 --> 00:29:42,280 colors or that your fingernails may rot out while on 612 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,770 your hand and stink to high hell. Nobody's told me 613 00:29:44,770 --> 00:29:48,610 that any of those things. So as the accumulation of 614 00:29:48,610 --> 00:29:52,660 side effects became the size of a mountain, I kept, 615 00:29:52,750 --> 00:29:55,000 I, it turned humorous. You know, it was one of 616 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,180 those things where I thought, Holy crap, this is so 617 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,570 funny and I was suffering, but I also thought it 618 00:30:01,570 --> 00:30:03,850 was hilarious. And then I, I just kind of resented 619 00:30:03,850 --> 00:30:06,970 the fact that nobody not even all these celebrities with 620 00:30:06,970 --> 00:30:09,070 their memoirs, none of them were coming clean and telling 621 00:30:09,070 --> 00:30:10,750 the truth about what treatment was really like. 622 00:30:10,750 --> 00:30:14,590 So I started making a list in my, the notes 623 00:30:14,590 --> 00:30:18,340 section on my iPhone, have, you know, a chemo round 624 00:30:18,340 --> 00:30:21,100 one, what side-effects came with those round too. And I 625 00:30:21,100 --> 00:30:22,270 didn't know if I was going to let me just 626 00:30:22,270 --> 00:30:27,130 do a talk or write an article. And then eventually 627 00:30:27,130 --> 00:30:28,990 I got to the point and I thought, no people, 628 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:30,970 people would get a kick out of this. You know, 629 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,220 AI can help people do better and be better. I 630 00:30:33,220 --> 00:30:38,560 can help guide them on good practices for doing battle 631 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:43,480 with cancer and winning every day. But I also thought 632 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,000 it would be a really fun story. You know, things 633 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,360 went haywire in a way, as you look back in 634 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,490 a hilarious way. So to have my chapter title is 635 00:30:51,490 --> 00:30:53,650 one of them's called the bright side of poop on 636 00:30:53,650 --> 00:30:54,370 my face. 637 00:30:54,700 --> 00:30:57,400 And the other one is called, when things go wrong, 638 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,370 don't go with them naked at the airport. And both 639 00:31:00,370 --> 00:31:01,930 of those things happen to me. There was poop on 640 00:31:01,930 --> 00:31:04,660 my face, threw my treatment and I was naked in 641 00:31:04,660 --> 00:31:09,010 an airport and it was hilarious. So I would write 642 00:31:09,010 --> 00:31:12,550 on an airplane on airplanes. And that was the only 643 00:31:12,550 --> 00:31:15,220 time I really had, you know, four or five hours 644 00:31:15,220 --> 00:31:17,710 where I wasn't sleeping. I wasn't that the doctor I 645 00:31:17,710 --> 00:31:20,500 wasn't working, I can just sit. And so I was 646 00:31:20,500 --> 00:31:24,160 making progress with a book on airplanes and, and that 647 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,770 was, I liked being productive. I like when I have 648 00:31:26,770 --> 00:31:29,950 something to say, and then once COVID shut down the 649 00:31:29,950 --> 00:31:32,590 world and still my career, I had plenty of time 650 00:31:32,590 --> 00:31:35,110 to sit on my back porch and finished that book. 651 00:31:35,910 --> 00:31:38,640 And as you mentioned, as a very raw and honest 652 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,950 as to what happens when you're going through this journey 653 00:31:40,950 --> 00:31:43,860 of varsity, some that are not deliberately should cost the 654 00:31:43,860 --> 00:31:45,450 process, but maybe if you don't want to be as 655 00:31:45,450 --> 00:31:48,480 upfront because they're embarrassed or it's not what they're trying 656 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,800 to portray themselves, which you obviously, you know, Admiral admirably 657 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,410 didn't want to do. And what's been the feedback I've 658 00:31:55,410 --> 00:31:57,390 received from people that I've read it, that you have 659 00:31:57,390 --> 00:32:00,330 met at conferences or emails or whatever it about them 660 00:32:00,330 --> 00:32:02,820 in the book and the impact on them. 661 00:32:03,750 --> 00:32:07,890 So most importantly, the book has been from people who've 662 00:32:07,890 --> 00:32:12,690 actually had. Cancer the most common bit of feedback I 663 00:32:12,690 --> 00:32:15,240 get is I wish I had this book when I 664 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,640 was diagnosed. They look at it and say, Oh my 665 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,320 gosh, I had not, I did not have a tool 666 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,780 like this. That was, it would have been great. And 667 00:32:21,780 --> 00:32:23,760 then on the flip side, I have so many people 668 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,850 buying the book for friends that are newly diagnosed or 669 00:32:26,850 --> 00:32:31,050 going through it. And the response from present cancer patients 670 00:32:31,050 --> 00:32:34,020 is extraordinary. They just, you know, this is helping me. 671 00:32:34,020 --> 00:32:37,080 This is inspirational. This is going to allow me to 672 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,970 pursue happiness while I'm being treated. You know, I have 673 00:32:40,970 --> 00:32:44,180 a new respect for perspective. You know, my attitude, even 674 00:32:44,180 --> 00:32:47,690 though again, I suffered to the max, I never had 675 00:32:47,690 --> 00:32:51,140 a pity party because I wasn't a kid with cancer. 676 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:52,820 You know, that's going to be way worse than me 677 00:32:52,820 --> 00:32:55,490 in a grown up. It wasn't my kid with cancer. 678 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,590 And for me, it wasn't one of the more lethal 679 00:32:57,890 --> 00:33:00,980 types of cancer or ALS you know, something or, or 680 00:33:01,430 --> 00:33:04,460 instant paralysis. You know, there is some things that could 681 00:33:04,460 --> 00:33:07,550 go horribly wrong. And I was very fortunate that there 682 00:33:07,550 --> 00:33:08,870 was a light at the end of the tunnel for 683 00:33:08,870 --> 00:33:11,030 me. So I decided to suck it up like a 684 00:33:11,030 --> 00:33:14,720 good little soldier. So yeah. So those bits of feedback 685 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:19,220 that it, it, that cancer patients say, this is a 686 00:33:19,220 --> 00:33:22,610 valuable tool and this is helping me. And I, and 687 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,850 I go on to some rants because people, Oh my 688 00:33:25,850 --> 00:33:28,880 gosh, it's for the majority, almost everyone was so kind 689 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,970 of right. I have all of this wave of kindness 690 00:33:31,970 --> 00:33:34,160 as tsunami of kindness always sent my way, but then 691 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,710 people did some really weird things. 692 00:33:35,710 --> 00:33:40,220 So for example, when I was newly diagnosed and I 693 00:33:40,220 --> 00:33:42,950 have time, I have, I don't have thousands of connections 694 00:33:42,950 --> 00:33:44,870 around the world. So people would reach out and saying, 695 00:33:44,900 --> 00:33:46,400 Oh, I'm rooting for you, blah, blah, blah. But some 696 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,610 people would reach out and saying, Hey, just wanted to 697 00:33:48,610 --> 00:33:50,570 let you know, my aunt just died of breast cancer. 698 00:33:50,990 --> 00:33:54,770 And I thought, Oh wow, thank you. Like, I know 699 00:33:54,770 --> 00:33:57,380 what to do with that. And I know they were 700 00:33:57,380 --> 00:33:59,420 just trying to connect and they were rooting for me, 701 00:33:59,420 --> 00:34:02,510 but to constantly be reminded by people say, Hey, my 702 00:34:02,510 --> 00:34:05,360 sister just died of breast cancer. That made me feel 703 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,510 bad. And if I wasn't such a sturdy person, that 704 00:34:08,510 --> 00:34:12,140 type of comment might have, you know, left me and 705 00:34:12,140 --> 00:34:14,660 a ball of tiers on the floor. So the, you 706 00:34:14,660 --> 00:34:16,730 know, the message being, if you hear of a friend 707 00:34:16,730 --> 00:34:20,600 who has some newly scary diagnosis, trying to aim for 708 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,000 the positive, you know, don't, don't bring up the dark 709 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,910 and gloomy side because they already know that that exists. 710 00:34:26,540 --> 00:34:30,320 Some people would say things like, Oh, it's just hair. 711 00:34:30,950 --> 00:34:33,170 You know, it's not just hair. If it was just 712 00:34:33,170 --> 00:34:35,090 here, we all just shaved a head and, and, and 713 00:34:35,090 --> 00:34:37,070 we'd all be balled, but it's not just here. We 714 00:34:37,070 --> 00:34:39,050 like it here. It can make us feel pretty. It 715 00:34:39,050 --> 00:34:42,470 could make us feel warm. And so, you know, I 716 00:34:42,470 --> 00:34:44,480 try to include some lessons in the book. And then 717 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,990 really, I think, you know, they always say, choose a 718 00:34:47,990 --> 00:34:51,260 market, right? You don't your book. Isn't right for everybody. 719 00:34:51,260 --> 00:34:53,450 But if it's, if you're a person going through hard 720 00:34:53,450 --> 00:34:56,210 times, or you just would like to have a laugh, 721 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,060 because as there is a few places in the book 722 00:34:59,060 --> 00:35:01,940 where people tell me, they've cried, most of them say, 723 00:35:01,990 --> 00:35:04,100 is it okay that I lacked my head off through 724 00:35:04,100 --> 00:35:06,980 your book? And I want them to know that was, 725 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,080 that was part of my intention. 726 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:13,550 I thought my experience was a hilarious in hindsight 'cause 727 00:35:13,550 --> 00:35:16,430 it was just so preposterous. So, you know, if, if 728 00:35:16,430 --> 00:35:19,160 you're not laughing, when the poop, it's my face, there 729 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:20,210 is something wrong with you. 730 00:35:20,650 --> 00:35:22,420 And, and I, I love the fact that you have, 731 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,840 you mentioned that people had wished they had it, you 732 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,040 know, when they were going through it or had been 733 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,220 diagnosed, because generally as you mentioned, friends and family, or 734 00:35:30,220 --> 00:35:31,630 trying to come through you and, and make you feel 735 00:35:31,630 --> 00:35:34,870 good, but we said the wrong things, you know? And, 736 00:35:34,870 --> 00:35:36,640 and to your point, we say that we consider in 737 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,490 the dark, but you've got this, you've got this. Like, 738 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,230 I don't know if we do have those, you know, 739 00:35:40,230 --> 00:35:43,050 so it's really interesting to hear that you mentioned that. 740 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,320 Yeah. How do you know, how do you know its 741 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,700 interesting. I asked my family, you know, asked my son 742 00:35:49,700 --> 00:35:51,830 I when I told my kids, I can. I said, 743 00:35:51,860 --> 00:35:53,840 adamantly, I am going to be fine. I'm going to 744 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,640 look weird. I'm going to feel a little sick, but 745 00:35:55,940 --> 00:35:58,400 I'm going to be fine. And, and my son, his 746 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,230 response was mommy, you are going to look so cute 747 00:36:00,230 --> 00:36:02,780 bald, which is so sweet. So I thought I did 748 00:36:02,780 --> 00:36:06,590 a good job of convincing him. But a year later 749 00:36:06,650 --> 00:36:08,480 when he and I we're having a conversation, I said, 750 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,060 Parker, was there ever a time when you thought I 751 00:36:11,060 --> 00:36:13,670 might, you know, not survive. He said, Oh yeah, I 752 00:36:13,670 --> 00:36:15,260 definitely thought you were going to die. And I thought, 753 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,740 well, why didn't he said, I didn't want to make 754 00:36:18,770 --> 00:36:20,990 your life more difficult by telling you that. And I 755 00:36:20,990 --> 00:36:25,340 thought, wow, what a sweet or, but yeah, its hard 756 00:36:25,340 --> 00:36:27,680 to convince everybody you are going to be okay when 757 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,350 you're really unsure that you're going to be OK. 758 00:36:30,350 --> 00:36:32,630 I mean, I, now I still have to keep looking 759 00:36:32,630 --> 00:36:34,760 over my shoulder. So am I going to have a 760 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,550 reoccurance am I going to find out, you know, last 761 00:36:37,550 --> 00:36:40,490 time I had a, a very identifiable lump and my 762 00:36:40,490 --> 00:36:43,280 breasts, when I come, if it comes back, we'll come 763 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,140 back the same way. Will it just land in my 764 00:36:45,140 --> 00:36:47,180 brain? And I have no idea what, you know, it's 765 00:36:47,180 --> 00:36:50,420 just, it can be scary. It's a tough situation, but 766 00:36:50,420 --> 00:36:51,980 the book is definitely full of laughs. 767 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,430 Awesome. Now, and obviously it ties in now to your 768 00:36:55,430 --> 00:36:57,590 podcast and that we can compliment each other power for 769 00:36:57,590 --> 00:36:59,810 Claire. Your show is over a hundred episodes and I 770 00:36:59,810 --> 00:37:02,900 have, as you mentioned earlier, what are your plans for 771 00:37:02,900 --> 00:37:06,740 the future of the podcast? Is that to continue with 772 00:37:06,740 --> 00:37:09,320 their current format? Are you looking to start and maybe 773 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,410 do a live on, on the field events? I guess 774 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:13,910 if there are, you know, the kids do in the 775 00:37:13,910 --> 00:37:15,470 morning and my own, et cetera, what was your plan 776 00:37:15,470 --> 00:37:15,740 for it? 777 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,400 Great suggestion. You know, My a podcast, to be honest 778 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:23,120 with, you has kind of slid off the front burner 779 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,460 for the past couple of years. Once I got diagnosed, 780 00:37:25,460 --> 00:37:28,220 I just kind of lost my steam for that. And 781 00:37:28,220 --> 00:37:30,440 so where I probably should be at episode a hundred, 782 00:37:30,590 --> 00:37:35,810 200, right now I've really only recorded a handful in 783 00:37:35,810 --> 00:37:39,380 the past two years. So I, my intentions are to 784 00:37:39,380 --> 00:37:41,600 come back in video format. I mean, one of my 785 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,990 great greatest assets as a presenter is that eye to 786 00:37:44,990 --> 00:37:50,180 eye contact. You know, I do like that. So more 787 00:37:50,180 --> 00:37:56,540 interviews, more engagement. I have some new online broadcasting software, 788 00:37:56,540 --> 00:38:00,050 so Fitzness dot com will be back in color. 789 00:38:00,830 --> 00:38:02,190 Nice. And I don't know if I said, well, I'll, 790 00:38:02,190 --> 00:38:03,890 I'll be sure to share a lot with all of 791 00:38:03,890 --> 00:38:07,430 our listeners know you mentioned earlier when we're talking about 792 00:38:07,430 --> 00:38:10,730 your, your fitness programs and how your helping celebrities, that 793 00:38:10,730 --> 00:38:12,860 you got the room of UN with the wiggles have 794 00:38:12,860 --> 00:38:16,670 old people. Yeah. But who would be your all time 795 00:38:16,670 --> 00:38:19,850 here or that it would make your ultimate were and 796 00:38:19,850 --> 00:38:22,100 why that person or people. Right. 797 00:38:22,220 --> 00:38:24,110 Well, okay. Thank you for giving me a few of, 798 00:38:24,140 --> 00:38:26,420 so I would love to meet Garth Brooks. He was 799 00:38:26,420 --> 00:38:31,130 my favorite singer. My another woo. I mean, there are 800 00:38:31,130 --> 00:38:33,560 some hunky guys that would definitely take Chris Hemsworth he's 801 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,780 doing nothing wrong and there's my laser focus. Apparently. I'm 802 00:38:37,780 --> 00:38:42,070 After cute guys too. Woo Over. I'd love to bring 803 00:38:42,070 --> 00:38:45,610 back Abraham Lincoln and work out with him actually are, 804 00:38:45,670 --> 00:38:50,710 are former president George W. Bush. He is an athlete. 805 00:38:50,710 --> 00:38:52,960 He, you know, he's not a, a, a, well, I'm 806 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,480 just going to say it. He's an athlete and he's 807 00:38:55,570 --> 00:38:58,510 a cyclist and he multiple times a year, it gets 808 00:38:58,510 --> 00:39:01,720 together with large groups of veterans and goes on long 809 00:39:01,720 --> 00:39:02,110 bike rides with him. 810 00:39:02,110 --> 00:39:04,600 And I just think that's so magical. And for someone 811 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,480 to one of my favorite thing is not one of 812 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,970 my favorite things in my actual favorite thing is the 813 00:39:09,970 --> 00:39:13,060 United States of America. I love my constitution, one of 814 00:39:13,060 --> 00:39:15,310 the bill of rights and I'm, couldn't be more grateful 815 00:39:15,310 --> 00:39:20,470 for all of our freedoms. So to be able to 816 00:39:20,470 --> 00:39:23,740 go work out or consult with a president and a 817 00:39:23,740 --> 00:39:25,990 bunch of wounded warriors who have fought so hard for 818 00:39:25,990 --> 00:39:29,980 freedom, that would be, you know, that would be an 819 00:39:29,980 --> 00:39:32,020 exciting beyond belief that what that would make me go 820 00:39:32,020 --> 00:39:32,380 fan girl, for sure. 821 00:39:33,060 --> 00:39:35,460 That would be amazing to have someone like Tammy Duckworth, 822 00:39:35,460 --> 00:39:38,850 for example, work alongside you. Like her story is incredible. 823 00:39:38,850 --> 00:39:42,540 I just, anytime you see her speak at the time, 824 00:39:43,290 --> 00:39:45,510 so Tammy Duckworth, I think she's, I think she's in 825 00:39:45,510 --> 00:39:48,150 politics now and I'm pretty sure she's like a, a 826 00:39:48,150 --> 00:39:50,160 representative like one day, I don't know if it's a 827 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,800 Democrat or Republican, right. But she is a war virtual 828 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,760 support for the legs and comeback. And she is very 829 00:39:57,060 --> 00:39:59,910 big obviously on VAT, you know, the vets they are 830 00:39:59,940 --> 00:40:02,730 being looked after. So it would be amazing to see 831 00:40:02,910 --> 00:40:05,670 like you both very powerful forward women. So it'd be 832 00:40:05,670 --> 00:40:08,070 amazing to see us together. I think. Sure. I love 833 00:40:08,070 --> 00:40:11,250 that. All right, cool. So you mentioned a joint Toby, 834 00:40:11,250 --> 00:40:15,330 which there, and I was watching one of the, bring 835 00:40:15,330 --> 00:40:17,610 it on movies with my kids, like the children of 836 00:40:17,610 --> 00:40:19,470 movies and it, and one of them. 837 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,270 And I, I don't know if this was just a 838 00:40:21,270 --> 00:40:23,180 movie, but it's actually a lot of a, I've been 839 00:40:23,190 --> 00:40:26,700 there for something, but they mentioned it to George W. 840 00:40:26,700 --> 00:40:28,920 Bush was the actual cheerleader and we all cheer letter 841 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,910 back in the day. So have you heard of that? 842 00:40:31,530 --> 00:40:31,910 I don't 843 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,580 Call, but I imagine it probably wasn't GW. I imagine 844 00:40:35,580 --> 00:40:39,510 it was probably his father, George Herbert Walker, Bush. He 845 00:40:39,510 --> 00:40:43,500 was also a baseball player for, I believe Yale. So 846 00:40:43,500 --> 00:40:45,510 I don't know if it's GW. I haven't heard that 847 00:40:45,510 --> 00:40:48,420 GWL was a cheerleader, but he was a fun guy. 848 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,080 He was an enthusiastic Mann, perhaps he was going to 849 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:53,520 have to learn about that now. 850 00:40:53,910 --> 00:40:55,860 Yeah, we did some Google and I couldn't find anything. 851 00:40:55,860 --> 00:40:57,180 So I think maybe its just like a throw over 852 00:40:57,180 --> 00:41:00,210 a lane in a movie, but I just also, I 853 00:41:00,220 --> 00:41:02,850 just stuck there thinking, but possibly I am at all. 854 00:41:02,910 --> 00:41:04,410 Oh for sure. Yeah. I know that sports. We're a 855 00:41:04,410 --> 00:41:06,600 huge deal on that family and Gen 856 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,900 Well, for me, this has been amazing. I've really enjoyed 857 00:41:09,930 --> 00:41:12,090 talking to you today and I know our listeners are 858 00:41:12,090 --> 00:41:14,850 going to really enjoy our chat For for people to 859 00:41:14,850 --> 00:41:17,910 wanna connect with you online, to learn more about a 860 00:41:17,910 --> 00:41:19,650 year. You know, you're more than a mile program for 861 00:41:19,650 --> 00:41:23,250 kids for the schools, buy your book, et cetera, whereas 862 00:41:23,250 --> 00:41:24,840 the best police for them to connect with you. 863 00:41:25,410 --> 00:41:28,230 Ah, thank you Danny. So Morning Mile dot com will 864 00:41:28,230 --> 00:41:30,810 take you to get more kids moving in the mornings. 865 00:41:31,410 --> 00:41:34,340 Fitzness dot com is my home base. That's F I 866 00:41:34,340 --> 00:41:37,400 T Z N S S. So Fitzness dot com. AU 867 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,230 is where you find me every day of the year. 868 00:41:39,230 --> 00:41:42,800 You can also follow me at Fitzness on Instagram, YouTube 869 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,970 and Facebook and follow me. Yes, but also engaged with 870 00:41:46,970 --> 00:41:50,000 me, say hi, say I heard you on Danny's podcast 871 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,730 and they want to say hello because why just following 872 00:41:52,730 --> 00:41:55,730 each other? Why not actually communicate? And then if you'd 873 00:41:55,730 --> 00:41:59,030 like to purchase my book, it's available in hardcover, paperback 874 00:41:59,150 --> 00:42:02,900 e-book and audio books, and it's available, wherever books are 875 00:42:02,900 --> 00:42:07,040 sold war worldwide. So certainly Amazon Barnes and Nobles, audible, 876 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:07,580 et cetera. 877 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,820 However, I love it when people buy it directly from 878 00:42:10,820 --> 00:42:13,910 me at Fitzness dot com because I can autograph every 879 00:42:13,910 --> 00:42:16,010 one of those books. And if you order on my 880 00:42:16,010 --> 00:42:18,260 website, there is a little spot that says, who do 881 00:42:18,260 --> 00:42:21,080 I inscribe this too? And so I sign all of 882 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,090 those books and I have a fun little gift with 883 00:42:23,090 --> 00:42:25,640 purchase that comes with the book in it. It's a 884 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,580 sticker that says I can do hard things, which was 885 00:42:28,580 --> 00:42:32,270 my internal mantra as I was going from one scary 886 00:42:32,270 --> 00:42:35,060 moment to the next, during treatment. And it really got 887 00:42:35,060 --> 00:42:38,840 me through it. So, but yeah, I appreciate everyone who 888 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,690 does take interest and you know, I hope that the 889 00:42:41,690 --> 00:42:45,350 book brings some big laughs and some comfort for those 890 00:42:45,350 --> 00:42:45,800 who need it. 891 00:42:46,660 --> 00:42:48,310 Awesome. And I'll be sure to drop all the links 892 00:42:48,310 --> 00:42:49,600 sent to the show notes. So all of your list 893 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,910 that all your favorite podcast app made sure to check 894 00:42:51,910 --> 00:42:53,500 the show notes as usual, so you can collect straight 895 00:42:53,500 --> 00:42:55,720 through to them. It's a fit, as I mentioned, I 896 00:42:55,720 --> 00:42:58,420 really appreciate you coming on today. I, I know I 897 00:42:58,420 --> 00:43:00,700 personally, I'm looking forward. I actually have a lot of 898 00:43:00,700 --> 00:43:02,350 your book on Amazon, but it might cancel that. No, 899 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,510 and go direct to your website to get a little 900 00:43:04,510 --> 00:43:07,330 ones, to know that they know that. That's awesome. So 901 00:43:07,330 --> 00:43:09,910 I'm looking forward to reading and I've had an absolute 902 00:43:09,910 --> 00:43:11,680 blast talking to you today and, and listen to your 903 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:12,970 story as a thank you. Thank 904 00:43:12,970 --> 00:43:15,010 You, Daphne. And thanks to all of the listeners. 905 00:43:15,730 --> 00:43:18,820 It's been another episode of Podcaster Stories. If you enjoy 906 00:43:18,820 --> 00:43:21,310 this week's episode, be sure to subscribe on your favorite 907 00:43:21,310 --> 00:43:25,180 podcast app like Apple podcast, Google podcast, Spotify, or a 908 00:43:25,180 --> 00:43:27,820 head over to Podcaster Stories dot com. 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