Welcome to the Abundant Life Podcast, bringing.
Speaker BYou encouragement and challenging believers to spiritual.
Speaker AChange and growth by applying biblical principles to everyday life.
Speaker AAnd now your hosts, Sasso Mendez and Ben Arellano.
Speaker BWelcome, everybody, to the Abundant Life Podcast.
Speaker BThis is episode number 73.
Speaker BI'm here with my good friend and faithful servant in the faith sauce.
Speaker BSo, Mendez.
Speaker CHey, Ben.
Speaker CWhat's going on?
Speaker BWhat's up, brother?
Speaker CIt's like, it's been a month or so.
Speaker BIt's been a little bit, but it's usually that, right?
Speaker CYeah, yeah.
Speaker COnce a month.
Speaker CI think it's a goal.
Speaker CIt's the norm.
Speaker CAmicable.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CWe do have a special guest.
Speaker CHe had just told me right now that his primo JJ did not set him up for success.
Speaker CBut we have JJ's cousin Peter joining a special guest.
Speaker CAnd, Peter, say hello.
Speaker AHow you doing?
Speaker AI.
Speaker AYou know, I mean, thank you guys for having me.
Speaker AI appreciate it, you know.
Speaker AYeah, J.D.
Speaker Adidn't put me up on game, man.
Speaker AHe just, wow, threw me out there.
Speaker AAnd just, you know, I was like, man, just give me a little bit of, you know, pointers, bro.
Speaker BWhat's up, man?
Speaker BI mean, come on, man.
Speaker CI mean, we had to tell jj.
Speaker BHook a brother up.
Speaker CI know.
Speaker CJj, eat the mic.
Speaker CBecause JJ was far away.
Speaker CIt sounded like he was, like, JJ was chilling, right?
Speaker CI know.
Speaker CYou could barely hear him.
Speaker BHe was living his best life way back here.
Speaker CGet that gangster lean.
Speaker AThat sounds like all the way back.
Speaker CAnd he could barely touch the petals.
Speaker AThat sounds like.
Speaker AThat sounds like.
Speaker CSo we like to go ahead and just what we call this, taco talk.
Speaker CAnd every guest that we have, we like to ask them what is their favorite food or what, you know, what.
Speaker CWhat's.
Speaker CYou know, what is your palate fancy?
Speaker AMy wife, she.
Speaker AShe makes these tacos that chicharron.
Speaker CWow.
Speaker ASo those are my little go to.
Speaker AAnd my sister makes these.
Speaker AWe just had them yesterday because we went to a birthday party, but some green chicken, chili enchiladas with the.
Speaker AWith the cream of chicken.
Speaker AIt's good, man.
Speaker AFire.
Speaker AWell, we went to.
Speaker CWhen I went to the hospital to see you, your sister made you a pie or a cake or.
Speaker CWhat was that?
Speaker AIt was a cheesecake.
Speaker ACheesecake.
Speaker AYeah, it was a cheesecake.
Speaker AHalf cheesecake.
Speaker CI know you politely offered, and we're supposed to decline, but Tony did not decline, and he took a big piece.
Speaker CHe'll say, oh, no, thank you, bro.
Speaker CEven though he wants it.
Speaker CYou're supposed to say, no.
Speaker CBut he.
Speaker CHe did indulge.
Speaker BThat's not.
Speaker BThat's not shocking, bro.
Speaker CNo, it's not.
Speaker BI would expect nothing less than from humans.
Speaker CGarbage disposal.
Speaker BGive it to Mikey.
Speaker BGive it to Tony.
Speaker CHe's a large man.
Speaker CI think he had some Carl's Juniors or something.
Speaker AOh, yeah, it was.
Speaker AThat was my little.
Speaker AYeah, my little stand right there in the hospital for a little bit while doing the radiation there was.
Speaker AThey were giving.
Speaker ABring me food, you know, it had the hospital food, but.
Speaker ABut my sister.
Speaker AMy wife was there to bring me food.
Speaker ANo, I didn't get none of that.
Speaker AI didn't really know that, man.
Speaker CBut since you've been back home, that she took you.
Speaker AOh, yeah.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker ALike I said yesterday, went to a party and she had that.
Speaker CThe green chili enchiladas.
Speaker BYeah, Green chili from like, Hatch, New Mexico, or is it just.
Speaker AOh, no, it's just from my area.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker CLike from Buckeye.
Speaker COkay.
Speaker CNot imported.
Speaker CNo, I mean, has been from New Mexico, so he's kind of.
Speaker BYeah, my chili snob.
Speaker CA little snobbish on the.
Speaker BI love that green chili from New Mexico.
Speaker BIt's good Stu stuff, man.
Speaker AThat's what I was born.
Speaker AI was born out there.
Speaker BOh, yeah?
Speaker AWhere at, man?
Speaker AI was born in Hobbs.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AYeah, my mom, my dad, J.J. we were both.
Speaker BHe.
Speaker BHe was born.
Speaker AYeah, we.
Speaker AWe just found out, me and JJ together.
Speaker ANot we didn't just find out, but I just found out that he was born out there too as well.
Speaker AHe lived with my.
Speaker AMy mom.
Speaker AWell, he didn't.
Speaker ABut his parents lived with.
Speaker AOkay, my parents for a time out there.
Speaker CHe's from Hops too, right?
Speaker AYeah, he was born out there.
Speaker AHe was born out there too.
Speaker BThat sounded familiar.
Speaker BYeah, that DJ was right there.
Speaker BAll right, so fellow New Mexicans here.
Speaker BRight on, bro.
Speaker AI don't.
Speaker AI don't.
Speaker AI don't know nothing.
Speaker AHonestly, I don't know nothing about.
Speaker AI mean, I got family out there.
Speaker AI mean, I've never lived out there.
Speaker AYou know, I spent all my life out here.
Speaker AI was just born out there.
Speaker AAnd I came out here to Arizona where my family's at.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker CWhere did you live here?
Speaker AI grew up in Guadalupe, Arizona.
Speaker AYeah, From Guadalupe, Arizona.
Speaker AAnd I grew up with my two sisters and two cousins.
Speaker AMy grandma raised.
Speaker ARaised five of us there.
Speaker BYou got any good spots down there to eat in Guadalupe?
Speaker AOh, yeah.
Speaker AWell, I mean.
Speaker AI mean, they got the youngis, you know, they always have.
Speaker ADidn't have different little shops in there, the little Mexican shops, you know, or different little restaurants you got.
Speaker AI haven't been there in a While.
Speaker ABut there's some pretty good.
Speaker AThey had a good seafood, like a Marisco Center.
Speaker AAll right.
Speaker CI'm always apprehensive about Mariscos in Arizona because we're so far from the ocean, you know what I mean?
Speaker AOh, yeah.
Speaker CA little nervous.
Speaker BFresh.
Speaker BFresh.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CPut some spray on.
Speaker CSome sardine spray.
Speaker AWhere's the ocean at that they're getting that from?
Speaker BYeah, I know.
Speaker CIt cannot.
Speaker CIt cannot park the lake with the river.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CLike the Simpsons or the fish with the three eyes, you know, out of the power plant.
Speaker CYou never know.
Speaker CYou know, you don't get the choro from the.
Speaker CFrom the.
Speaker AOut there in the river bottom.
Speaker CI know.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CSalt river over there.
Speaker BClose to.
Speaker BWhat is it, Palo Verde or what is it?
Speaker BNot palo Verde, That's.
Speaker CThat's a power plant.
Speaker BYeah, it's a power plant.
Speaker AYeah, over there.
Speaker CPeter lived by the palo Verde.
Speaker CThere you go.
Speaker ABuckeye, right?
Speaker BFind the fish of the guys there, bro.
Speaker CI know.
Speaker AIt's a little mission out there, man.
Speaker CThank you for coming out here.
Speaker CI mean, I remember I had a court case over there.
Speaker CI mean, when I say court case, I mean my dog got out of the gate.
Speaker CIt's not like, you know, anything crazy.
Speaker CBut I went to the front and I asked the person.
Speaker CI was like 45 minutes late.
Speaker CI said, hey, you know, where do I go?
Speaker CAnd the guy's like, hey, go to the.
Speaker CThere's a little small.
Speaker CI mean, it's a small office with the courtroom.
Speaker CHe said, go in the courtroom.
Speaker CWait for the judge.
Speaker CSo I wait 10 minutes and then it's the same guy with the black robe on.
Speaker CI'm like, it's the same guy that was at the front desk and he said, how do you plead?
Speaker CAnd I mean, it was a misdemeanor for my dog, and so I pleaded guilty, whatever.
Speaker CAnd then he's like, go to the front and pay the fine.
Speaker CSo I go to the front and I'm waiting another 10 minutes.
Speaker CThe same guy with no robot says, takes my money.
Speaker CHe's like, okay, thank you.
Speaker CAnd I'm like, this thing.
Speaker BLike the same dude?
Speaker CYeah, he's the police, the.
Speaker CThe judge, secretary, everything.
Speaker CI'm like, dang.
Speaker CBuckeye is a small, small place.
Speaker AYeah, I mean, it's pretty small.
Speaker CI'm sure it's bigger now, but it's like a one horse town, as they would say.
Speaker CPretty small.
Speaker AYeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker AHe goes, you go through there and you're just one.
Speaker ARoad 85 with Route 85 or Highway 84.
Speaker AYeah, 85 or something.
Speaker AJust go straight through there.
Speaker APretty small, but it's growing all the way out to Tonopah.
Speaker AAnd all that area is growing pretty fast.
Speaker CSo how long take you to get out here?
Speaker CAbout 45 minutes.
Speaker AYeah, man, probably about an hour.
Speaker ASorry, bro.
Speaker AYeah, I was kind of late, too.
Speaker AI mean, I thought, you know.
Speaker CWe worried about you.
Speaker CYou know, I was gonna call JJ to see if he could fill in.
Speaker CIf he didn't show, you know, I thought maybe he'd fallen asleep or something, you know, and, you know, you got.
Speaker AOr whatever.
Speaker CI know you're going through a lot, so.
Speaker AYeah, still.
Speaker CAll right, well, we can get into it.
Speaker CAnything interesting?
Speaker CYou eating?
Speaker CI mean, we've been to Bdubs a couple times, but.
Speaker BYeah, nothing.
Speaker BNothing special.
Speaker BI mean, you know, I've had Georgian sons the other day.
Speaker BI, like.
Speaker BI know you don't care too much for, you know, for Asian, but I like the.
Speaker BIt was pretty good.
Speaker BI like it.
Speaker BI mean, it's.
Speaker AIt's.
Speaker BIt's upgraded from panda, bro.
Speaker BYou know what I'm saying?
Speaker CLike, it's good Asian food.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CBut for whatever reason, I don't know, I just kind of.
Speaker BI mean, I like.
Speaker BBecause I like rice, and I like, you know, noodles and, you know, that kind of stuff.
Speaker BAnd then, you know, they make the chicken spicy.
Speaker BI got the general Yang or sour, whatever it is.
Speaker BChicken, it's spicy, you know, and I like.
Speaker BBecause I like spicy general gato.
Speaker CSophie, come here.
Speaker AOh, man.
Speaker BThat's horrible.
Speaker CYou like Chinese food, Peter?
Speaker AYou know, I haven't really been big.
Speaker AI've never really been big on Chinese food.
Speaker ANot, you know, a big fan of it.
Speaker AMy wife, she is.
Speaker AI just don't understand it.
Speaker AI mean, I don't know.
Speaker AShe got my kids all into sushi right now, and.
Speaker COh, boy.
Speaker AAnd it seems like it's everywhere.
Speaker AAnd I don't understand.
Speaker AI just barely found out, I guess, or just learned that that sushi's rice.
Speaker AAnd I didn't know that and probably sound dumb right now because I guess it's just rice and just other little things that they raw.
Speaker CI mean, you can get raw fish.
Speaker CYou can get shark, tuna, whatever.
Speaker CYou can get all kinds of.
Speaker BIn the roll.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ABut it's pretty much just rice, right?
Speaker BIn a roll.
Speaker BIt's a California roll.
Speaker BBut then they put like.
Speaker BLike raw salmon or whatever.
Speaker CYou know, like, the rice is the tortilla, and then they put things in it, you know?
Speaker ABut, yeah, I just.
Speaker CI have expensive, too.
Speaker BYeah, it's not very flavorful.
Speaker BHonestly, I've never had it.
Speaker BIt's just, I don't know, I.
Speaker BThat one, I, that I get like what you're saying I don't get.
Speaker BI don't get the sushi.
Speaker BLike I don't.
Speaker AYeah, it's different.
Speaker AThere's different.
Speaker AThere's different things in there that's they're explaining to me.
Speaker CYou get avocado roll.
Speaker CYeah, that's okay.
Speaker AThat's good.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CBut it's like 18 bucks for like three rolls.
Speaker AI'm like.
Speaker CGive you garnet with 14 bucks.
Speaker CBut it's full of meat.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AI could feed all four of my kids or all three of my kids with one burito.
Speaker AYou know what I mean?
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker B$85 for the 1212 ounce RI at Texas Roadhouse for 20 bucks.
Speaker BYou know what I mean?
Speaker CLike I'd rather have some 34.99, bro.
Speaker CBone in.
Speaker C20 ounce.
Speaker CI mean.
Speaker BYeah, yeah, the bone in is good.
Speaker BThe 20 ounce.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CWell, everyone went to Ensenada and they had those pools of fish where they're like that pool with the net is very expensive.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker CRemember that?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd it's like the.
Speaker BWasn't it like owned by the Chinese government or something?
Speaker BLike it was like other countries that.
Speaker CLike the Cheetos on it, bro.
Speaker AYeah, Mexico.
Speaker CAnd it was like these in the middle the ocean, right?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker CAnd they had like where they were cultivating the.
Speaker CThese fish are probably for fish farms.
Speaker CThey're farms and they're high end fish that they've sold for a lot, a lot of money.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BLike one fish is like thousands of dollars or something.
Speaker BCrazy.
Speaker AOh, that's crazy.
Speaker BYeah, yeah.
Speaker BAnd they're like guarded too, like aren't they?
Speaker BLike, I mean they're watched like.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BIn case try to steal.
Speaker BYeah, it's.
Speaker BYeah, it's pretty crazy.
Speaker AAnd they make, they make.
Speaker AAfter they breed them and stuff, they put them on the grill.
Speaker CSo I think what they do is they sell them to high end restaurants throughout the world and I think they're very valuable fish.
Speaker CSo I mean it's a expensive, that's expensive fish.
Speaker CWhatever.
Speaker BThe fish probably like sushi.
Speaker BThat's the real, you know, the, the high end sushi.
Speaker CSushi.
Speaker CNot the all you can eat small bucks.
Speaker BNot like like the Poke bar or whatever it's called Pocket Bar or whatever.
Speaker AThe ones they got in Rancho Mart right here.
Speaker BMarisco's at Food City.
Speaker CYeah, you're not gonna see that there.
Speaker AAnd how to get sushi in that.
Speaker AAnd the Rancho Marks, this is AJ.
Speaker CFish, you know, I mean this is high end.
Speaker CYeah, but they said they're really valuable, right?
Speaker CI don't know.
Speaker CThey put a net in the middle of the ocean, and that's why it.
Speaker BLooks like a ring just floating on the water, but then the net goes underneath.
Speaker BBut they're like fish farms or something like that.
Speaker BWow, that's pretty wild.
Speaker CI can see fish get too fat and they can't fit out the net.
Speaker CI don't know how that works, but I don't know.
Speaker BOr maybe they just, you know, string it up and throw it on the boat and.
Speaker CYou know what I mean?
Speaker AYeah, you got somebody, they got a wrangler or somewhere, somebody go down and arrest.
Speaker CYeah, for real.
Speaker CThey're big, you know, so Mexico, who knows?
Speaker ABut it's big business.
Speaker CThey sold it to the.
Speaker BTo the Chinese people.
Speaker CSo give me your fried rice recipe and we'll let you have a net in the water.
Speaker CI don't know, some trade, some bartering, something.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker CAll right, you ready?
Speaker BYeah, let's.
Speaker BLet's get into it.
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Speaker CSee jj.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BYeah, you can check out JJ up there.
Speaker BI don't know.
Speaker BIt's a few podcast episodes ago, and we had the one with JJ and.
Speaker BAnd his police officer buddy.
Speaker CForgive me, I can't remember his name.
Speaker BI know.
Speaker BI'm trying to think right now, anyway.
Speaker BBut yeah, Visit us on YouTube.
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Speaker BOn meta on Facebook and Instagram and actually, we just started Tick Tock, so, uh, we get a lot of hate on Tick Tock, bro.
Speaker CReally?
Speaker BUh, you know, we did the, uh, Charlie Kirk episode and, man, get a lot of hate on there, bro.
Speaker BBut, uh, it's all good, man.
Speaker BPeople, I'm just thinking to myself, like, yeah, but you watched it, bro.
Speaker ASo.
Speaker CYeah, thanks.
Speaker BYeah, thanks for the.
Speaker CI mean, we get a lot of watches on there.
Speaker AYe.
Speaker BYeah, we get some decent watches.
Speaker BWe've been getting a lot of love on.
Speaker BOn the shorts on.
Speaker BOn YouTube.
Speaker COkay.
Speaker BAnd then some of some on Instagram too.
Speaker BBut.
Speaker BBut yeah, we get most of the hate on.
Speaker BOn Tik Tok.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CA lot of the kids, you know.
Speaker BYeah, the younger.
Speaker BYeah, for sure.
Speaker AI know, right.
Speaker BBut you're just young.
Speaker CSorry.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker ABut do you still get like views?
Speaker AYou still get views?
Speaker BOh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker ASo it's still like.
Speaker AYeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker BLike they're still watching it.
Speaker BYou know what I mean?
Speaker BThey might comment and say something negative or whatever, but I'm like, yeah, but you watched it, bro.
Speaker CYeah, like the people that say like Anti Elon Club and they have a Tesla, like, you still bought the Tesla.
Speaker BYeah, and then they burn it and I'm like, bro, like, seriously, like, you just, you know, might as well take that money and flush it down the.
Speaker CYou can buy my products and burn them as much as you want.
Speaker CJust keep buying them.
Speaker BYeah, so, yeah, keep giving me your money.
Speaker CYeah, it's dumb.
Speaker CI seen a guy with the Charlie Crook shirt on just right now actually on the mountain, so.
Speaker AOh, nice.
Speaker CYeah, very cool.
Speaker BY.
Speaker BSo anyway, yeah, so visit US, Money, Life FM, YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, and now Tik Tok.
Speaker BAnd with that we're going to get into our verse of the day and we'll get into some content here.
Speaker CAll right, Philippians 4:13.
Speaker CThis is a verse that Peter stated his mom used to say to him and a special verse to him, especially now as he's going through a difficult time in his life.
Speaker CBut first, Philippians 4:13.
Speaker CThe Bible says I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
Speaker CAll right, Peter, with that transition here, what, you know, what do you want your, your, our audience to know?
Speaker CYour family, your kids as you tell your story?
Speaker CWhat are the pieces you want to pull out of that, of how God has worked in your life in the past and then all the way up to today?
Speaker AWow.
Speaker AIt's been, it's, you know, I'm 43 years old, man, and.
Speaker AAnd you know, I feel like I've lived a pretty extensive hard life, you know what I mean?
Speaker AIt's been rough, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker AAnd I, I grew up, I grew up pretty, pretty rough, man.
Speaker AI grew up going by Triste.
Speaker AThey used to call me Triste when I was a kid.
Speaker ATriste boy, you know, my mom used to call me that when I was a kid.
Speaker AAnd I, I grew up.
Speaker AI didn't know, I didn't know.
Speaker AI didn't know God.
Speaker AI didn't know nothing about God, you know.
Speaker AAnd I grew up.
Speaker AMy mom was a heroin addict and so my dad was a block layer and my mom was a stay at home mom, but she got addicted to heroin.
Speaker AAnd so I was raised, Me and my sister were raised In Guadalupe by my grandmother.
Speaker AAnd so my mom was in and out of prison and her being in and out of prison, you know, being a heroin addict herself, you know, Know I went, I went, I followed her into the streets basically, cuz she was on the streets, you know.
Speaker ASo I followed her into the streets.
Speaker AI was a mama's boy, you know, I got two, I got two sisters, a younger one and an older one.
Speaker AAnd she was in and out, in and out of prison and, and she was a Christian, she knew the Lord and so she would always feed, feed me, you know, I was in the streets with her.
Speaker AYou know, I was at a very young age, I was already doing drugs.
Speaker AYou know, I was running the streets.
Speaker AI used to run the streets looking for her, you know, I mean, because she would, she was in the streets looking for her drug.
Speaker AShe was chasing her.
Speaker AIt was crazy.
Speaker ACuz she was chasing her drug and I was chasing her.
Speaker ALike I was chasing her affection, the love that a mom, you know, Because I was a little boy, you know what I mean?
Speaker AAnd I was a mama's boy.
Speaker ASo you know, I went through all that in there and the town is a little, it's pretty rough.
Speaker AIt could be rough, you know, on, on, on kids, you know, when I was growing up, in the time that I was growing up there, you know, it was, it was pretty rough and.
Speaker ABut the one thing that she always did was she, every time she got out, she would feed the word to me.
Speaker AWhen she would write to me, she would tell me about God, you know, how Jesus died on the cross for me and you know what I mean?
Speaker AAnd I would just, okay, mom, whatever, you know, like in one year, out the other, cuz of how she was living her life, it was hard for me to, to, to believe anything that she was telling me about God.
Speaker ASo I just didn't believe it, you know.
Speaker AAnd I, I, I started getting arrested for, for grand theft auto.
Speaker ALike JJ growing up, you know, we used to, we started stealing.
Speaker AI was out of all of us, me, JJ and my primos.
Speaker AThere's a lot, there's, there's quite a bit of us.
Speaker AI'm one of the older ones.
Speaker ASo like they, they watched me do things, you know what I mean?
Speaker AThey learned as we were growing up in, as kids, you know, I was, I started stealing cars when I was like 11, 12 years old, driving cars on the freeway.
Speaker AI started driving on the freeway when I was like 13 years old.
Speaker AAnd I got arrested.
Speaker AI was getting arrested in and out when I was like nine Years old, I threw a table at one of my teachers and I started getting arrested.
Speaker AI had a real, my dad, I had a real bad anger issues.
Speaker AYou know, my dad had a bad temper.
Speaker AHe was a good man.
Speaker AMy dad was a good, hard working man.
Speaker AHe was a block player, you know, and he just, you know, he drank.
Speaker AHe was a, you know, he liked the beer, you know, and, but he had a temper.
Speaker AHad a bad, bad temper, man.
Speaker AAnd you know, his wife got addicted to heroin.
Speaker ASo, you know, it's a battle, it was a battle that he was, that he had to face as well, you know.
Speaker AMust have been hard too, you know, for a man that's going to work every day and then you got a wife, you know, and just, it's hard.
Speaker ASo it just didn't work for them, you know, it just, they grew apart and, you know, that was a traumatic, one of the first traumatic things for me, you know, and little did I know that my life, you know, like I said, my life, I grew up being called Triste.
Speaker AAnd my, one of my Theos, he was a Cristiano too.
Speaker AHe was my mom's oldest brother.
Speaker AHe told me, man, why do you guys, you guys give your guys selves, nicknames, man?
Speaker AAnd you guys, your, your parents gave you guys good names.
Speaker AYou got a biblical name, you know, you know, Peter, Daniel.
Speaker AThat's my name.
Speaker BYeah, right, right.
Speaker AAnd, and he goes, you know, because you guys, you guys become, eventually you guys become your name.
Speaker AYou guys are calling your guys yourselves, whatever you guys are calling yourselves.
Speaker AAnd it's like you guys are taking on that identity, you know, it's, it's creating who you are.
Speaker AAnd I never really, he told me that when I was a kid, you know, and I never really understood it until, and me, I always thought, okay, well, it's the opposite because I'm not sad.
Speaker AI'm not.
Speaker AYou don't see me sad ever, you know, in my.
Speaker AAnd so it was like, you know, you call a big dude tiny.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker AYou know what I'm saying?
Speaker ASo it's like that, it's like the opposite, you know, and like Tony Tiny.
Speaker BThat's funny, bro.
Speaker BThat's actually funny.
Speaker AI was gonna take a shower, but I, you know, I said.
Speaker BTeed it.
Speaker AUp, but, but so, you know, it, it, it kind of did took a life of.
Speaker AOn my, on my life, you know.
Speaker ASo as I started growing up, you know, I got locked up when I, when I was 14.
Speaker AThat's when I, I, I finally got locked up.
Speaker AWhen the judge finally said, you Know what?
Speaker AI'm.
Speaker AI'm done.
Speaker AIt was 4th of July, me and my brother, I, I was gonna go touch some, some chick and, and you know, I got him with me, you know, and my brother went with me.
Speaker AHe was younger, you know, he's my primo.
Speaker ABut my, my, my grandmother raised us, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker ASo my brother left.
Speaker AHe.
Speaker AHe went with me and we went and I stole a car and we ended up.
Speaker ALong story short, we ended up coming back to Guadalupe and I'm driving.
Speaker AWell, what, what ended up happening is that like a week before this, my other, I call them my brothers, but these are my primos, you know what I mean?
Speaker AWe all grew up, like JJ told you guys, we all grew up real close, you know, bro, and got another brother named Chato.
Speaker AHe, he's a little bit older.
Speaker AHe's a year older than me, you know, we're the same age and we grew up with each other as well, you know.
Speaker AAnd a week before, he had wanted to turn himself in to, to go back to Adobe Mountain because that's where we would go.
Speaker AAnd, and I went with him and we were, it was a week prior to this and, and we went and knocked on the sheriff's office and he goes and wants to turn himself in.
Speaker AAnd we're 14, we're 13, 14 years old, you know, and it's like 2 o' clock in the morning and he wants to turn himself in.
Speaker AAnd the, the, the cops like, nah, man, dude, what are you talking about?
Speaker AI can't.
Speaker AYou guys, you gotta go home.
Speaker AThere's no warrant here for your arrest, so I can't just lock you up, you know, so I gotta take you back home.
Speaker AWhile that same officer.
Speaker AFast forward to when me and Louis stole, when I went, when I stole this car, I'm driving into Guadalupe and this off the officer that had seen me a week prior to this, he's driving into Guadalupe and I'm driving out of Guadalupe and he sees me.
Speaker ASo he sees, hey, I just seen this little kid a week ago, how he's.
Speaker ANow he's driving, you know, so it must have probably looked crazy, you know, I mean, like, you know what I mean?
Speaker ALike now I sit back and I think about it.
Speaker AI'm like, how can I, I see a 13 year old kid.
Speaker AI'm like, man, I can't see myself driving, man.
Speaker ABut that's what it was.
Speaker AI mean, I was, we're, we're really driving cars like that.
Speaker AAnd so that's how he seen me.
Speaker AAnd, and he flipped.
Speaker AHe flipped it and he turned his lights on.
Speaker AHe got behind us and the judge had already was tired and she was like, you know, you're going to Adobe Mountain for a year.
Speaker AAnd So I was 14 years old and I went to Adobe Mountain for a year.
Speaker AAnd, and that's where my life changed.
Speaker AIt had a.
Speaker AAnd you know, I really want to speak on this too, is that, you know, the youth, like in my neighborhood, you know, I want to.
Speaker AI would like to go back in there and maybe try to speak to the youth because, you know, I went to Adobe Mountain and, And you know, that was supposed to be something for youth, a youth like prison rehabilitation type thing, right?
Speaker ABut when I was growing up, you know, that was basically just, you go there and you learn more crime, you learn, you go and get educated.
Speaker AYeah, it's Adobe Mountain School.
Speaker AYou're going to go over there and get educated, but it's not the education that, you know, so that's what happened to me.
Speaker AI went there and I just got educated on all kinds of dumb stuff, just.
Speaker AAnd, but you go there and, you know, you have.
Speaker AIt's a battle zone.
Speaker AYou're having to fight, you're having to, you know what I mean, defend yourself and, you know, people wouldn't bully you and all that.
Speaker ASo you go there and it's, it's, it's rough, you know, and there's little kids there where it's all to double balance the kid thing, you know.
Speaker ASo I'm, I'm.
Speaker AShe sentenced me there for a year.
Speaker AI had to go there for a year.
Speaker AThis was 96, I was 14 years old.
Speaker AAnd so I went there and I'm there for a year.
Speaker AAnd you know, my brother Chat was there, Lefty's there, you know, I think Jade or JJ pulled up there.
Speaker AHe was in the cottage right next to me at one time.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker AWell, I was in a cottage and there was this dude, man, and he used to get bullied a lot.
Speaker AHe was always getting bullied, you know what I mean?
Speaker AAnd, and, and, and he, me, I was a Travieso.
Speaker ASo my name was always out there, you know.
Speaker ABut mine, my, my Primo, my brothers, all of us were always Travieso.
Speaker ASo our names were always up there with the directors and they were always, were always.
Speaker AI was always getting in trouble, you know what I mean?
Speaker AAnd there was some little white dude that always getting bullied in that cottage.
Speaker AAnd he, he, he went and he told the.
Speaker AAn officer that I had tried to stick a Shampoo bottle up his.
Speaker AYou know what I mean?
Speaker AAnd so they went and they get it went.
Speaker AAnd they sent me.
Speaker AThey sent me to the hole.
Speaker AI had to go to the hole.
Speaker AThey sent me the hole.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker AAnd for like, three days, he said that he made up this story because he wanted to get moved out the cottage.
Speaker AHe was getting bullied, you know what I mean?
Speaker AAnd me being the travo, it was easy to go ahead and say, oh, yeah.
Speaker AI mean, it's more believable.
Speaker AThis dude's always getting in trouble, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker ASo.
Speaker ASo what ended up happening, though, is that they moved me.
Speaker AI get moved to the other cot, another cottage.
Speaker AI had already been there a year, and.
Speaker AAnd I went to my parole board and they denied it, you know what I mean?
Speaker ASo I got mad.
Speaker AI was.
Speaker AI was already been there for a year.
Speaker AI got mad because they moved me from 1, 2, like, now I'm not going home or what.
Speaker ALike, you know, so I went to another cottage and they.
Speaker AThey were like, well, get your levels.
Speaker AAnd you know, and I was like, nah, they moved my brother in there to try to, you know what I'm saying, make us do good.
Speaker AAnd I started doing good there for a little bit.
Speaker ABut when I went to my parole board and he denied me, I got mad.
Speaker AI got really upset.
Speaker ASo I came back and there was this.
Speaker AThis other kid.
Speaker AThere was.
Speaker AAnd he came in.
Speaker AHe was working in the kitchen.
Speaker AHe came in and he was wearing some new shoes.
Speaker ANikes?
Speaker ANo.
Speaker ASo I was like, hey, let me see your shoes.
Speaker AAnd I tried them on.
Speaker AThey didn't fit me.
Speaker ASo I took the shoelaces off, and I'm angry, I'm mad, you know, And.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker AAnd so I was like, hey, man, you got Jack.
Speaker AYou know, the shoes didn't fit me, but my.
Speaker AMy primo JJ had just pulled up into the next.
Speaker AInto the next cottage.
Speaker ASo I was like, they're gonna fit him, you know what I mean?
Speaker AHe got the little small foot, you know?
Speaker ABut long story short, man, you know, it was just part of.
Speaker AOf the environment of what was going on there in adobe, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker AAnd I.
Speaker AHe said some disrespectful things and.
Speaker AAnd about his shoes, you know, because I told him, you got Jack, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker AAnd so I went in there and I. I beat him up, you know, and then there was a shoelace hanging out my pocket, and I got it, and I started choking him.
Speaker AAnd like I said, I Was a, I was an angry kid, man.
Speaker AI was pretty angry, man.
Speaker AAnd I choked him.
Speaker AI was choking him.
Speaker AI was just angry for everything, like everything that I had been through in my life, you know, and just, it was just a whole bunch of stuff, man.
Speaker AAnd, and, and that was the turning point right there.
Speaker AThey came and the officers D me and you know, they pulled me off.
Speaker AAnyways, long story short, they ended up sending me to the, my from Adobe Mountain.
Speaker AThey sent me to Madison, which was at the time the jail here, you know, downtown in Arizona.
Speaker AYou know, it was a jail, but they had juveniles there as well, you know, so when you get charged as an adult from Adobe Mountain, they would, they would send you over there.
Speaker ASo they sent me to, to, to Madison as a, as a juvenile.
Speaker AAnd so now we're, you know, I'm being charged as an adult.
Speaker AThey wanted first to charge me for attempted whatever because they said that I tried to attempt, supposedly.
Speaker ANo, just the shot.
Speaker COh, gotcha.
Speaker ABut then, then they hit me with attempt.
Speaker AThey could have hit me for attempted murder because the guy could have said, well, I was choking them, that, you know, I said I was gonna kill him.
Speaker ABut they got me for aggravated assault with the deadly weapon.
Speaker AI was 15 years old.
Speaker ANow I'm 15 years old.
Speaker AMy mom's in the county jail, okay?
Speaker AI don't have an adult guardian there representing me or telling me, you know, what, you know, don't sign that plea bargain as a minor.
Speaker AYou know, at that time, at that, you know, in 90, what was like 97, 98, you know, I was only 15 years old.
Speaker AWhat am I going to know about a plea bargain?
Speaker AYou know, like you're putting this plea bargain right here.
Speaker AThis is my life.
Speaker AAnd you're telling me to sign something that I don't.
Speaker AI'm 15 years old, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker AYou ask.
Speaker AI think about it now, like, I look, I'm like, But the kids nowadays, like if you get a 15 year old kid and you put a plea bargain in front of him, that has to do with his life, man.
Speaker ALike, he's not gonna understand it.
Speaker AAnd me, I'm trying to get out of there.
Speaker AI'm getting tired of being in, in jail.
Speaker AYou know, the food is nasty, they treat you bad.
Speaker AYou know, I think that's the whole part of the system, you know, and so it's just in and out.
Speaker AI want to sign this plea bargain.
Speaker ASo I signed a plea bargain five years for, for aggravate aggravated assault with the deadly weapon.
Speaker AAnd they gave Me probation for.
Speaker AFor the attempted whatever, the.
Speaker AThe shampoo whatever, you know, and that's the whole thing.
Speaker ALike, I just.
Speaker AThey were just wanting to in and out, like, you know, instead of, you know, really doing an investigation and, and me not knowing what I was signing.
Speaker AI didn't know what I was signing.
Speaker AI was signing something that was gonna, you know, pretty much had a. I had a hard life because of all that, you know what I mean?
Speaker ALike, I. I went to prison for five years, man.
Speaker AYou know, from now I'm 15 years old, going to prison, you know, for five years, and I go to Rincon Miners and I'm in Rincon Minors there, man.
Speaker AAnd, you know, one thing that I didn't tell you.
Speaker AWell, I didn't start off by taught.
Speaker AI should have.
Speaker ALike, growing up in my neighborhood, I had uncles that were.
Speaker AWell, I had, you know, I had uncles that been to the prison.
Speaker ASo I, you know, I had people that were well known in prison, you know, and.
Speaker AAnd so.
Speaker AAnd my mom, she had a lot of friends.
Speaker ASo me, unbeknownst to me that I was being kind of trained or raised to be a part of the lifestyle that.
Speaker AThat.
Speaker AThat prison.
Speaker AThat prison lifestyle type, you know, I guess somebody's seen it that I, you know, I was going to be in prison later on in life, and they wanted to start, you know, grooming me, you know, for that.
Speaker AFor that life.
Speaker AAnd I ended up getting caught up in a lot of that.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker ABut at the same time, like I said, my mom was in and out, and so she was always throwing the palau at me, you know, and.
Speaker AAnd it would stick.
Speaker ASome of it would stick, you know, and I was.
Speaker AI was in prison.
Speaker AShe was being.
Speaker AAnd out of prison.
Speaker AShe.
Speaker AShe finally got out in 90.
Speaker AIn.
Speaker AIn 99, she got out of jail and.
Speaker AExcuse me.
Speaker AShe started doing good, man.
Speaker AAnd I was proud of her, you know, in 99, I was.
Speaker AI was 17 years old.
Speaker AI was proud of her, man.
Speaker AAnd she was going to church.
Speaker AA body of breakthrough church.
Speaker AI don't know if you guys remember, they had a radio station.
Speaker AIt was.
Speaker AIt was a Christian oldies radio station.
Speaker AYeah, back in the days.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker AAnd so she.
Speaker AShe was into that, you know, she go to church and.
Speaker AAnd, um, she started visiting me, you know, and.
Speaker AAnd I started seeing a little bit of change in her, you know, she was doing good.
Speaker AAnd, um, there was one Thursday there that.
Speaker AThat I called home and I remember I called home and she was gonna come visit me.
Speaker AShe had bought a 69 Impala and she drove it all the way from Guadalupe to Tucson to go visit me, you know, it was all beat up, but she was proud of it, you know, like, yeah, you know, she had her little lowrider, you know, and it became.
Speaker AIt was my favorite.
Speaker AThat was my.
Speaker AThe year.
Speaker AThat's my favorite car, you know.
Speaker AAnd my nana is Tamiam.
Speaker AShe has bricks.
Speaker AWent to go grocery shopping and I didn't even have no room in the trunk because she has cinder blocks in the trunk.
Speaker ABut, like, she wanted to lower it, you know what I mean?
Speaker ALike, well, that's still ghetto, but like, I mean, she was proud of it, you know, it was something that she was working for, you know, and she was doing so good, man.
Speaker AI was proud of her.
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Speaker AWell, one Thursday I call home and she's like, yeah, me, I'm gonna go see you on, on Sunday, you know, I'll be there.
Speaker AAnd I was like, all right, Mom.
Speaker AAnd, and okay, Saturday, it was a Saturday night, I think.
Speaker AAnd I had just got back to Rincon Miners because that Ringcon Miners, it's a little step up from Adobe, you know.
Speaker ANow, you know, you're in the big, kind of.
Speaker ANot bigger, you're in the bigger leagues, you know, and.
Speaker AAnd it's still little gangs, you know, but just like I said, I, I was being trained.
Speaker ALike, I was already writing to, like, people.
Speaker AI was already in contact with individuals that were up there in, in the prison organizations and lifestyles, you know, and from the miners unit, you know, and, and so, so I was trying to run the miners unit like an adult, you know, like adult prison, you know, And I got in trouble.
Speaker AAnd they had sent me to, to.
Speaker AThey had sent me to Florence and they had an smu.
Speaker AThey had a little area for teenagers.
Speaker ABut my mom had got back.
Speaker ASorry if I'm all over the place, you know, I mean, sometimes that's how I am.
Speaker ALike sometimes my story's all over, but it all connects.
Speaker AAnd what ended up happening is that I ended up coming back to Ring Con Miners and my mom was visiting me and she was gonna come visit me that Sunday.
Speaker AWell, honest, on that Saturday, you know, it was like maybe 7, 8, gonna be count close to count time.
Speaker AAnd, and, and I was gonna smoke a cigarette.
Speaker AWe're gonna let a cigarette bean travies.
Speaker ABecause I was a little kid, you know, my door pops and I look and I thought, oh man, what I, you know, he goes, hey, the sergeant wants to talk to you.
Speaker AI'm like, you know, I mean, what do you mean?
Speaker AI start thinking like, what did I do this time?
Speaker AYou know, And I went, and I see the sergeant and the, the officer standing right there and he's nervous, man.
Speaker AThe sergeant's walking like he's pacing like he's nervous, you know, and, and I'm looking at him like, man, and now I start thinking, man, what did I do?
Speaker AYou know what I mean?
Speaker ALike, this dude, you know, he looks like I probably did something bad, you know.
Speaker ASo I'm sitting here thinking I'm in trouble or something, you know, and he's like, I don't know, I don't know how to tag this.
Speaker AI'm like, what do you mean?
Speaker AWhat are you talking about?
Speaker AAnd he goes, well, I just, I just got off the phone and your mom has passed.
Speaker AYour mom has passed away.
Speaker AAnd I got up, I jumped up, you know, I was, you know, that's how I had a bad temper, man.
Speaker AI was really an aggressive, really, really bad temper.
Speaker AAggressive, juvenile, you know.
Speaker AAnd I got mad and I jumped up and I, you know, because he tell me my mom's dead, you know what I mean?
Speaker AAnd the other officer grabbed me and sat me down.
Speaker AHe's like, calm down, you know, And I, I just, I was like, I want to call home, you know, like, yes, go ahead, you call.
Speaker AYou're going to call your sister.
Speaker AAnd I called home and the first thing my sister told me, my, my baby sister, she's a year younger.
Speaker AShe was like, brother, please don't do nothing, don't do nothing dumb, bro.
Speaker APlease, please don't.
Speaker APromise me, you know, like.
Speaker AAnd we cried it out, man.
Speaker AIt was hard, you know, tell a 17 year old kid that, you know, his mom's gone while he's locked up, you know, now, now what do I do?
Speaker AYou know, who do I, who do I, who do I chase?
Speaker AYou know what I'm saying?
Speaker AWho do I Chase into the streets or.
Speaker AYou know what I mean?
Speaker ALike, it was.
Speaker AIt was pretty rough, man.
Speaker AI, you know, my addictions, you know, because, you know that that's where it stand, because I, you know, I was.
Speaker AI was raised by an addict, you know, so my drug of choice was.
Speaker AWas crystal met, you know, real young.
Speaker AI, like, JJ told you guys, you know, we used to smoke real young, you know, driving cars and.
Speaker AAnd the heroin.
Speaker AI never messed with it, man, because it killed my mom.
Speaker AYou know what I mean?
Speaker ALike, I was 17 years old, man.
Speaker AI hated that drug.
Speaker AI hated it.
Speaker AI hated it with a passion, man, and.
Speaker AAnd I never missed with it, you know, it wasn't my.
Speaker AMy drug of choice, you know, I.
Speaker AIn 2002, I get out.
Speaker AI'm 19 years old, man, and I get out for the first time.
Speaker ANow I'm out.
Speaker AAfter all these years that I've done as a child, I finally get out into this world that I don't know how to live.
Speaker AMy mom's gone, you know, I've been locked up as a kid.
Speaker ANow I'm 19 years old, coming out into the world.
Speaker ALike, they didn't teach me nothing in there, you know what I mean?
Speaker ALike, what am I supposed to do?
Speaker AAnd it was crazy because I was only out for, like a month and a half.
Speaker AI ended up meeting some girl at my dad's.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker AAnd the reason I, Like I'm bringing this up is because I've been married.
Speaker AI've been married three times.
Speaker AYou know what I mean?
Speaker ABut it's.
Speaker AIt's a very big part of my life, man.
Speaker AMy first wife, like, I was young.
Speaker AI was a kid, you know, I was still getting in trouble.
Speaker ALike, we didn't.
Speaker AIt was like puppy love, like, so we just, you know.
Speaker AYeah, I was in prison.
Speaker AI went to prison.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker AAnd I got four and a half years while I was still.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker ASo in 2002, I got out, and I was still being a Travieso, and I ended up meeting some girl.
Speaker AI get locked up.
Speaker AI get four and a half years for a stolen car because I was out there stealing cars and still doing dumb stuff.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker AAnd she marries me in prison.
Speaker AI marry her behind the glass, you know, in 2003 or four, I get locked up, and they give me four and a half years, and she wants to marry me.
Speaker ASo my nana.
Speaker AMy nana and her mom drive up there to Florence, where I was at, and I was 19 years old, you know, and we're behind glass, you know, and we got to see our Vowels and all that.
Speaker AIt was kind of.
Speaker AIt was kind of.
Speaker AIt was a.
Speaker AIt was an experience, and it was kind of weird, you know what I mean, to get married behind glass.
Speaker ABut, I mean, I was a kid.
Speaker AI didn't know what I was doing.
Speaker ABut, you know, we.
Speaker AWe ended up.
Speaker AShe ended up divorcing.
Speaker AShe wanted to go.
Speaker AWe're young, so I didn't.
Speaker AYou know, I didn't take it too much to heart.
Speaker AWe kind of did break my heart, tell you.
Speaker AI can't lie.
Speaker AYou know, I was heartbroken because that was my first love, you know, puppy love or whatever, you know, and she leaves me in there.
Speaker ASo then I'm in there by myself, and.
Speaker AAnd I get out in 2007.
Speaker AI get out, and now I get out in 2007.
Speaker AI don't have.
Speaker AI don't have.
Speaker AYou know, she divorced me, okay?
Speaker ANow it's 2007.
Speaker AI'm living at my nanas, all right?
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker AAnd at my nanas, you know, I start working.
Speaker AI'm working block, and they're paying me $400 every Friday.
Speaker AAnd so my primos, they're from the west side.
Speaker AI got cousins that live out here on the west side.
Speaker AAnd every Friday, he would come pick me up to take me out of Guadalupe, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker AJust to.
Speaker AHe seen that I was doing good, you know, I'm making money, you know, I'm working.
Speaker AI got a job, you know?
Speaker ASo every Friday, he would come and he would take me out of Guadalupe, and he was showing me different.
Speaker AWe'd go to clubs because I had never been to a club, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker AI'd never been to.
Speaker AI had never done a lot of stuff that teenagers did, and you know what adults do, you know, Because I've been locked up pretty much all my life, so there was things that he would take me out here to come out here to experience, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker AGo to pool halls or clubs, dancing or whatever.
Speaker AAnd so I was doing that every Friday.
Speaker AWell, one day he was like, hey, you want to go to a Pop Warner game?
Speaker AYou know, my.
Speaker AMy brother's sons and the papa.
Speaker AI was like, yeah.
Speaker ASo we go.
Speaker ALong story short, we're coming back home, and we pull up at the stoplight, and there's a towel pulls up, and there's this girl, and she looks at me, and I look at her, and we just.
Speaker AWe lock eyes, you know, And I just threw my hands up, you know?
Speaker AAnd me being.
Speaker AI'm.
Speaker AI'm shy, you know, I don't.
Speaker AI don't have that macaroni like that Mac, you know.
Speaker AYou know, I don't have that, you know, I. I don't have the gift for gab, you know, I'm.
Speaker AI'm.
Speaker AAnd so I just threw my hands, and I was kind of, like, nervous, and my.
Speaker AWas like, just ask her for her number, you know, So I just go like that, you know, and then she's like, you know, she does like this.
Speaker ASo I pull in and.
Speaker AAnd I'm like, what?
Speaker AI tell her, you know, I'm telling my.
Speaker AWhat.
Speaker AWhat?
Speaker AI tell her.
Speaker AJust ask her for her number, you know, like, all right, tell her your name.
Speaker AYou know, I was like, hey, all right.
Speaker ASo I go, hey, my name is say, you know, like, what's up?
Speaker AI get your number, and she gave me her number.
Speaker AShe said her name was Angela, you know, And I was like, all right, Angela.
Speaker AI. I'll give you a call, you know, so we.
Speaker AWe left, and I ended up talking to her, and we hit it off pretty good, man.
Speaker AAnd we got to know each other, and she came into this relationship with two children.
Speaker AOne of them was six months, and Aiden was six months old.
Speaker AAJ Was like four or five years old, you know, and so she had kids, you know, And.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker AAnd so I. I didn't have kids.
Speaker AI haven't had kids, you know, and she came to this.
Speaker AThis relationship with two boys, you know, so we hit it off, you know, right off the rip.
Speaker AAnd our first date.
Speaker AI could remember that I had told my sister to.
Speaker ATo make us some enchiladas, some of those enchiladas, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker AAnd if she can babysit, well, you know, and that's what she did.
Speaker AShe had a little table like this right here, and she made it like a little restaurant, you know what I mean?
Speaker AAnd we had a little date, me and her.
Speaker AAnd I was still being a Travieso, though, you know, I didn't know how to.
Speaker AI was still working.
Speaker AShe was working.
Speaker AShe was.
Speaker AShe had just moved from Oklahoma.
Speaker AI'm being a Travieso still, you know.
Speaker AOkay, so it's 2007.
Speaker AI get locked.
Speaker AI get locked up, I get out.
Speaker AI kill my number.
Speaker AI finally kill my number.
Speaker A2007.
Speaker AI killed my number in 2007.
Speaker AAnd me and her went.
Speaker AWe just spontaneously.
Speaker AIt was.
Speaker AIt was 2000.
Speaker AAt the end of 2007, in December, December 31, we just said, let's go to Vegas and get married.
Speaker AYou know, I had never been outside of Arizona, been locked up on my life.
Speaker AYou know, it's just.
Speaker AAnd so, just spontaneously we're like, hey, okay, let's go.
Speaker ASo my primo James and my sister Sonia, we took them to be our witnesses to Vegas.
Speaker AWe went on New year's Eve in 2007.
Speaker ASo we went up there and just bought a little cheap hotel outside of the Strip.
Speaker AAnd we went there with little money and.
Speaker AAnd we were just like, we're just for the experience, you know, let's just go down and, you know, try to gamble at each casino, you know, just for the experience.
Speaker AIt was.
Speaker AIt was pretty.
Speaker APretty nice, you know, and we ended up getting married out there in 2007.
Speaker AWe got to see the New Year.
Speaker AWe brought in the New Year's of 2007.
Speaker AAnd, you know, what she brought to.
Speaker ATo the relationship is something that I've always wanted, you know, I wanted.
Speaker AI've always wanted to be a dad.
Speaker AI've always wanted to be a husband.
Speaker AYou know what I'm saying?
Speaker AAnd she brought that.
Speaker AI was.
Speaker AI was given that, you know, and, well, I was.
Speaker AGod blessed me with.
Speaker ABlessed me with that, you know, and, you know, I was still being a Travia.
Speaker ASo I got it together, though, after, you know, I killed my number 2007.
Speaker AThat means I don't have.
Speaker AThis is the first time in all my life that I don't have no probation or nothing.
Speaker AI'm doing.
Speaker AI'm working.
Speaker AWe have our house, you know, and in 2008, she gets pregnant and she gives birth to my first son, which was the most.
Speaker AMost life changing experience that I've ever had in my life.
Speaker AYou know, watching my son be born, it was such that.
Speaker AGod, it was a blessing, you know, I was just.
Speaker AIt's something that you can never forget, you know, like when you see your first child be born.
Speaker AIt was just.
Speaker AIt was.
Speaker AIt's amazing, you know, it's just crazy.
Speaker ABut she gave birth to my son, man.
Speaker AAnd that was 08.
Speaker AAnd then in 09, she gave birth to my second son.
Speaker AMy first son was Angelo.
Speaker AWe named him Angelo.
Speaker AAnd then in 09, she gave birth to my second son, Alonzo.
Speaker AThat was in 09.
Speaker AAnd in 2010, we were doing good, you know, she was working for the bank, bank of America.
Speaker AAnd I was working for another company.
Speaker AWe had a house.
Speaker AI was working for a steel company.
Speaker AAnd we're doing good.
Speaker AYou know, I'm not, You know, here and there, my Primo would come and I'd go Drink with him.
Speaker AYou know what I'm saying?
Speaker AI wasn't missing with drugs here and there.
Speaker AMaybe I would deal with dabble, you know, but I wasn't.
Speaker AI was doing the family thing.
Speaker AI was learning how to pay bills, you know, all the.
Speaker AAll the stresses of the world, you know, that I didn't know how to get accustomed to, you know, and she was helping me.
Speaker AShe.
Speaker AShe was.
Speaker AYou know, she was.
Speaker AShe was.
Speaker AGod said, you know, in 2010, we were in.
Speaker AIn Phoenix at my tia's house, because we had a house on the south side in Southside, 35th, and my DIA lived on 59th in Thomas.
Speaker AAnd we're at a birthday party over there, and we had a suburban one.
Speaker AIt was like a 95.
Speaker AIt was like one of them old suburbans.
Speaker AAnd we had, well, four of my children.
Speaker AAnd we're at my tia's house, and we were going back.
Speaker AWe're leaving.
Speaker AWe're leaving my tia's house, and we got on 55th and Thomas, and I was going east, and we're arguing.
Speaker AMe and her were having an argument.
Speaker AAnd I turn.
Speaker AI turn on.
Speaker AOn Thomas, and I start picking up speed, and me and her.
Speaker AAnd I don't see that there's this car stalled out.
Speaker AThere's a car that stalled out right there.
Speaker AAnd she.
Speaker ASee.
Speaker AI guess she sees it and she yanks on the steering column.
Speaker AI try to get a hold of it, and I can't.
Speaker AIt just.
Speaker AIt's hard.
Speaker AIt's a big.
Speaker AIt's a big Suburban, you know, and it just gets out of hand, and we hit a brick wall, and it flips.
Speaker AI guess the wheels were in the air, you know, she died on impact.
Speaker AAnd me, I. I got.
Speaker AIf you can see us, the.
Speaker AOh, yeah, the scar.
Speaker AI cracked my.
Speaker AI cracked my whole head.
Speaker AYou know, I walked out, I got out of the vehicle, I crawled out the vehicle, and one of my Primos was.
Speaker AWas right there.
Speaker AOne of my Primos was right there.
Speaker AAnd he said that I said some words, and I just fell back out, passed back out, you know, And I remember waking up in the.
Speaker AIn the hospital, and my dad right there, my sister, you know, and I, I.
Speaker AThe first thing I remember was just getting wheeled into.
Speaker AAnd my sister's telling me that I'm going into emerging surgery, you know, because my brain was hemorrhaging.
Speaker AYou know, I had blood in my brain.
Speaker AAnd so my sister said that they're rushing me to emergency surgery.
Speaker AAnd I just passed out again after that.
Speaker AAnd I was there for, you know, For a couple days.
Speaker AAnd then I guess I woke up again and I started asking questions like, where's.
Speaker AWhere's.
Speaker AWhere's Angela?
Speaker AHer name's Angela.
Speaker AAnd I was like, where's Angela?
Speaker AWhere's.
Speaker AYou know, and they don't.
Speaker ANobody says nothing.
Speaker AWhere my kids at?
Speaker AYou know, all the kids are fine.
Speaker AAnd, you know, and finally they finally.
Speaker AThey came and told me that she had passed away, you know, and.
Speaker AAnd I just.
Speaker AI lost it.
Speaker AYou know, it's.
Speaker ABecause it's.
Speaker AIt's like, you know, when you.
Speaker AWhen you go through so much as a young child in life and you finally get to.
Speaker ATo where you feel like, okay, this is where, you know, I'm supposed to be, you know, and then something just hits you like that, you know, you're like, oh, man.
Speaker AYou know, like, that's.
Speaker AIt's.
Speaker AYou know, it's pretty, you know, And I.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker AAnd, you know, when I tell my story, you know, sometimes people are like, man, how can you.
Speaker AHow do you.
Speaker AHow do you.
Speaker AHow do you get through that?
Speaker AYou know what I mean?
Speaker ALike, it's.
Speaker AIt's.
Speaker AIt's hard.
Speaker AIt was.
Speaker AIt was a tough one, man, like, you know, to.
Speaker ABecause we.
Speaker AShe.
Speaker AShe taught me so much about life, you know what I mean?
Speaker ALike, I got like, You know, she.
Speaker AShe was an angel.
Speaker AHer name's Angela.
Speaker AYou know what I mean?
Speaker AShe.
Speaker AShe was.
Speaker AYou know, and.
Speaker AAnd it just.
Speaker AIt's crazy because God.
Speaker AGod is good, man.
Speaker ALike, I.
Speaker ASo I'm blessed, bro.
Speaker ALike, even.
Speaker AEven.
Speaker AEven with the.
Speaker AWith the hardships that I got going on right now, you know, I. I still feel blessed, man, because you know what?
Speaker AYou know, I get locked up in 2010, man.
Speaker AYou know, they didn't.
Speaker AThey don't in Tokyo.
Speaker ASo I lived in.
Speaker AIn Southside 35th.
Speaker AAnd in 2010, that's when I lived there.
Speaker AAnd I don't know if you guys remember, man.
Speaker AThere was this.
Speaker AIt's when that big old fallout where, like, I think there was a.
Speaker AAn African American, like a congressman that had got roughed up by the South.
Speaker ABy the South Mountain Precinct.
Speaker AThere was like, an investigation on.
Speaker AOn that precinct at that time, you know, And.
Speaker AWell, at that time, I was living in that area, you know, and after I lost her, man, I just.
Speaker AI. I had a nervous breakdown, man.
Speaker AI. I didn't know how to live.
Speaker ALike, I. I wasn't even supposed to get out the hospital.
Speaker AI took myself because I wanted to go to the.
Speaker ATo the Velo.
Speaker ATo.
Speaker AWhen they buried her, you know, and so I was There, but I wasn't all, I wasn't all there in the head, you know, I, I, I wasn't at all, you know, I had just lost somebody that was the most important person in my life, you know, like, my kids just lost their mom, you know, Like, I just, it was hard, you know, and, and I didn't know how to, like, how to deal with it, you know.
Speaker AAnd so, you know, my family, they didn't know how to deal with me either because it was due to them, you know, and so they were trying, they were trying to be helpful.
Speaker AThey would go and stay with me.
Speaker AThey would go and help me like, be food, clean house.
Speaker AWell, one day my nana and my sister went over there and you know, I wasn't being too nice to them.
Speaker AThey left.
Speaker AMy burglar alarm starts going off.
Speaker AI don't know if, you know, like, you know, when you leave your door open, the burger alarm, it'll go off.
Speaker ASo it starts going off like, like seven officers came from, from that precinct with their guns drawn to my house.
Speaker AI'm sitting out in front of my yard in a wheelchair because I have broke my pelvis.
Speaker AI had the brain hemorrhage.
Speaker ASo I was pretty banged up, you know, I ripped the lining of my urethra.
Speaker AI was, yeah, it was a pretty bad, bad accident that I'm still kind of dealing with some of the, the, the injuries from that accident.
Speaker ABut they come with their guns drawn.
Speaker AAnd me, I start like, what do you guys, you know, I start talking kind of crap, you know, like, well, you guys never seen a Mexican in the house that has a fireplace or you know, like, cuz it had a fireplace.
Speaker AIt's a pretty nice house, you know, and, and you know, I was, I was proud of it, you know, it was one of those things that, you know, just those little things that, that I was proud of, you know, like I didn't have that in Guadalupe, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker ALike, not those type of fire fireplaces, you know, maybe little trash can on or something.
Speaker ABut you know, so with that, like when they came and they just, they arrested me, they, they, I started talking crap to them, you know, and, and they got me and they arrested me.
Speaker AThey got me for seven counts of aggravated assault on seven officers and they got me for seven counts of threatening, intimidating officers with gang because supposedly I'm, you know, because I'm from eastside Guadalupe and our connections to the Mexican mafia are, you know, that's, supposedly, you know, I'm connected or whatever.
Speaker AThat's what they're, you know, the judge and the prosecutor saying so.
Speaker AAnd it just made me look bad.
Speaker AAnd I'm like, man.
Speaker AAnd the prosecutor's like, well, I'm gonna offer you six years.
Speaker AYou could either take it or leave it.
Speaker AAnd at that time, I'm fighting for my children because CPS got involved, because I had an inactive metabolite of weed in my system.
Speaker ASo, like, if you smoke weed, like a week ago, it'll still be in your system for a month.
Speaker ASo it's an inactive.
Speaker AIt was inactive in my system.
Speaker ASo when.
Speaker AWhen the car accident happened, they found that inactive metabolite in my system, so they got involved.
Speaker ASo I had to start going to court for my children.
Speaker ASo I'm fine.
Speaker AI was fighting for them.
Speaker AAnd even when they arrested me, I was still going to the courts to fight for them.
Speaker AUnbeknownst to me, I didn't know that.
Speaker AThat by me signing this plea bargain, that they were going to sever my rights to my children.
Speaker AAnd I signed, okay, my son, A.J.
Speaker Ai signed his birth certificate.
Speaker AYou know what I'm saying?
Speaker ASo I was his son legally.
Speaker AI was his dad, legally.
Speaker AAnd my two boys that were biologically mine, those are the ones that I was.
Speaker AI had to fight for, you know, Aiden, I couldn't fight for because his dad, he's from Oklahoma, you know, so he has.
Speaker AHe has a father, you know?
Speaker AAnd so I was just.
Speaker AI had to fight for the boys, but I didn't know that by me signing this plea bargain, they're going to sever my rights.
Speaker AAnd that's what happened.
Speaker ASo they severed my rights, and all my boys got spit up.
Speaker AYou know what I mean?
Speaker AThese.
Speaker AThese.
Speaker AOkay, so these.
Speaker AThese years, since 2010, since after the car accident, they got spit up, all four of them, the boys got sp.
Speaker ABut, you know, my.
Speaker AMy two of my b.
Speaker AMy biologically boys are together.
Speaker AA.J.
Speaker Ahe's already older.
Speaker AHe's.
Speaker AYou know what I mean?
Speaker AAnd it's.
Speaker AIt's crazy, you know, he's.
Speaker AWe just got in touch, and he's a good.
Speaker AVery good boy, you know, A good man.
Speaker AHe's a good man.
Speaker AI'm proud of him.
Speaker AI'm Rebecca Mendez with Lamplight Ministries, where I serve the Lord by loving others.
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Speaker AOkay, so I get locked up in 2010, I go to prison and right away they, their, the, the department of Corrections is viewing me, they're trying to make a packet on, on me being affiliated with the.
Speaker ASo I signed that plea bargain for six years.
Speaker ASo I'm going to prison for six years in 2010.
Speaker ASo I go to prison and I'm over there in Florence and they started a STG packet on me, an STG packet.
Speaker AAnd I just got back to prison, you know, and what an STG packet it is basically, you know, that they, they make you and tell you the drift of an affiliated member of whatever, you know, whatever prison gang.
Speaker AAnd so that's what they were, they were affiliating me with.
Speaker AAnd I, you know, you know, I just, at that time, like I had just lost my wife, so it wasn't, I wasn't really.
Speaker AI was mad, I was mad at God, you know, I was, I was mad at God for, for a good little while, you know, I, I, I didn't know how to deal with, you know, losing her and losing my kids, you know.
Speaker AWell, one day I'm sitting there and a letter slides under my door.
Speaker AYou know what I mean?
Speaker AA letter slides under my door and you know, me, me being, you know, the way I was raised in there, like, you know, if it's not mine, you don't get somebody else's mail.
Speaker AYou know, I'm not expecting no mail.
Speaker AAnd I'm looking at the name on it doesn't even the, the, the address on top where they write their name.
Speaker AAnd I'm sender.
Speaker AYeah, the center.
Speaker AThere you go.
Speaker AI'm not recognizing it, so I'm like, right, But I see my name on it.
Speaker ASo I pick it up and it's a letter.
Speaker AAnd she's, she's like, hey, hey, my name's, my name's Pasa.
Speaker AYou know, and she's like, I'm 21 years old, I have no kids.
Speaker AYou know, I'm, I just got out.
Speaker ABut I gave my Palavra, she gave her word to my tia that she would write to me, that she had, she had heard about, you know, everything I've been through.
Speaker AAnd she just wants to be my friend and you know, you know, I really dug that because, you know, my tia, one of my tias, rest in peace, she's already passed.
Speaker AShe's passed away.
Speaker ABut she was a loca too.
Speaker ABut she would always, you know, send chicks to rap me, you know, when I was in prison, she would always try to, you know, and some they would write, some would fall off, you know, and it was just one of those things, you know, and, well, she actually wrote, you know, so to me, you know, I said a lot about her character, you know, that she.
Speaker AShe was able to keep her word.
Speaker AAnd so I wrote her back and I was like, you know, I'm not looking for no relationship or nothing, you know, but, you know, I appreciate that you kept your word to my ti.
Speaker AYou know what I mean?
Speaker AThat says a lot about you, and I appreciate that.
Speaker AI'm not looking for no relationship, but we can be friends, you know?
Speaker AAnd so in.
Speaker AIn, in.
Speaker AAnd we wrote.
Speaker AWe wrote.
Speaker AWe wrote each other all this whole time throughout from 2011.
Speaker AAnd then we became, little by little, we were friends.
Speaker AWe started off as friends and we wrote.
Speaker AI would get like maybe 10, 15 letters a week.
Speaker CLike, wow, the dedication a lot.
Speaker AAnd the one thing that we did was every.
Speaker AEvery letter we asked each.
Speaker AWe asked five questions, you know, so we got to know each other real, real in depth.
Speaker AAnd she was my friend.
Speaker AShe became my best friend, you know, her name is Viviana.
Speaker AVivian, who is my wife.
Speaker AYou better.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker AAnd that's where.
Speaker AWhere, you know, I feel like God, like he.
Speaker AIf.
Speaker AIf I look back on my life and.
Speaker AAnd I just see how it all played out and how it's played out up until this point, you know, I can see that his hand has been in every.
Speaker AEvery part of.
Speaker AOf my life, you know, and my faith has grown tremendously, you know, in.
Speaker AIn.
Speaker AIn him and what he.
Speaker AWhat he did.
Speaker AHe died on the cross for me, you know, So a lot of the stuff that I.
Speaker AWhat.
Speaker AWhat I.
Speaker AWhat I didn't mention earlier is that, you know, I come from a pretty big family, and my nana had 12 kids.
Speaker AHer.
Speaker AMy t. Had 12 kids.
Speaker AMy mom's mom and dad, they had 12 kids.
Speaker AAnd my nana, before she passed away, she just.
Speaker AShe passed away just recently.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker ABut she.
Speaker ABefore she passed away, she had buried eight of her own children.
Speaker AYou know what I mean?
Speaker AAnd so my family has been through that, you know, and so it's.
Speaker AIt's.
Speaker ABut I always look to her for.
Speaker AWhenever I was going through something in my life, I always look to her for, like, for strength, you know what I mean?
Speaker ABecause you think about, you know, how can you, how can that woman be so strong to, to have buried eight of her children, you know what I mean?
Speaker AOh, I'm just going through this little thing.
Speaker ASo then it, it, now that, you know, my life has taken another turn, you know, I'm starting to realize that, you know what?
Speaker ABut Jesus, Jesus went through a lot more for, for me, you know, and for us, you know, like, so that's how.
Speaker AAnd now that's why, I mean, I look to that, you know, I, I, I believe, I believe that he, you know, he endured so much for, for my sins, you know, and, and the pain and the things that I've gone through in my life were just a part of what he wanted for me, you know, or what my life paid.
Speaker AAnd I always tell this to people, man, is that, you know, we're all, you know, I've talked, talk to you about this too, how I, how I feel like, you know, God, he's made us all unique in our own unique way.
Speaker ALike, nobody can say that they've been through everything you've been through in your life, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker ANobody can say that.
Speaker ANobody can say that they have the same fingerprint as you.
Speaker AYou are your own person, like, but you're created in his image, so it's just you and him, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker AAnd I feel like that's where he wanted us as brothers and sisters and neighbors.
Speaker ATo love our neighbors is to share your story because you're, you're, we're, we're.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker ASo for me, I'm a living testimony of, of how he's been in my life, you know, and, you know, I feel, you know, we're all family, you know, And I don't know, it's just, it's, you know, I, I just, I went to prison again.
Speaker AOkay, so let me get back to this story.
Speaker AI'm sorry.
Speaker AI apologize.
Speaker ASo I ended up where I was at, okay?
Speaker ASo 2015, I get out, you know, in 2015, okay?
Speaker ASo I ended up getting STG.
Speaker AThat means that when you get STG.
Speaker AI got STG in 2010.
Speaker ASo you get slammed down and you go to SMU2, which is like a security lockdown.
Speaker ALike, we're locked down 24 hours every other day, you know, and being locked down 24, 24 hours every other day in the cell by yourself, you know, it could take a toll on your mind, man.
Speaker AAnd, and, and I've been doing that all you know, all these years that I've done in.
Speaker AI've probably done.
Speaker AI'm not proud of it whatsoever.
Speaker AI do not.
Speaker AAnd I want.
Speaker AI want to put everybody to know anything that I've.
Speaker AI've talked about as far as, you know, all the ugliness.
Speaker AI don't, I don't.
Speaker AI don't praise any of that.
Speaker AI don't condone any of that.
Speaker ALike, you know, God, you know, he's changed so much about the way I look at life.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker AYeah, so I got out in 2015 and I married her, man.
Speaker AI married.
Speaker AI married the girl that was riding me.
Speaker CNever her name me as that.
Speaker CBut yeah, she probably appreciates her.
Speaker AHer name is for sure.
Speaker AAnd, and, hi, baby, I love you.
Speaker AAnd no, but like, you know, she.
Speaker AAnd that's another blessing.
Speaker ALike, that's.
Speaker AThat's how, you know, that's.
Speaker AThey say that you don't.
Speaker AYou don't get, you know, another chance at stuff like that, or you don't get love twice, you know, or.
Speaker AIt doesn't come like that, man.
Speaker ABut God, I gotta tell you, man, that it does.
Speaker AYou know, he.
Speaker AHe's blessed me so much.
Speaker AAnd she's such a beautiful person, man.
Speaker AShe's such a beautiful person.
Speaker AAnd it's crazy how, like, you know, like when you meet somebody and.
Speaker AAnd, you know, you get to know them, you know, it's just, just.
Speaker AAnd you understand why God, like, put.
Speaker AYou put you guys together, you know, like things that you have to work out with each other, you know, like, it's.
Speaker AIt's pretty.
Speaker AIt's pretty, pretty beautiful, you know.
Speaker AAnd so I got out in 2015, married her.
Speaker AShe didn't think she could have kids, you know, when we first started writing, writing to each other, we're friends at first, and so I used to, like, tell her I would give her advice about some of the guys that she was talking to out there, you know, like, yeah, that dude sounds like a scrub, man.
Speaker ADon't.
Speaker ADon't mess with that dude, you know what I mean?
Speaker AOr you know what?
Speaker AThat dude sounds pretty too, you know, he sounds like.
Speaker AHe's pretty cool, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker AMaybe you should test him out, you know what I mean?
Speaker AOr take him, you know, have him take you to dinner somewhere.
Speaker AWell, she ended up getting knocked up, like, pregnant, you know, and the dude left her, you know, and so we had already been writing to each other for a good amount of time, and I was like, you know what?
Speaker ADon't even worry about it.
Speaker AI'm getting out.
Speaker AI'll help you raise those kids.
Speaker AYou know what I'm saying?
Speaker AAnd I told her that, and I meant it, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker ABecause I. I don't.
Speaker AYou know, I. I said, I'll help you raise him, you know, and she just.
Speaker AShe just took a liking to that.
Speaker AYou know, we.
Speaker AWe had already started connecting, you know, we had already started catching feelings.
Speaker AAnd so I got out and I married her in 2015.
Speaker ABut, okay, so she lost those babies.
Speaker AShe lost those.
Speaker AThose twin babies.
Speaker AAnd so she didn't think that she could have kids, you know, and so when she lost those babies, you know, like, I helped her get through.
Speaker AThrough that, and she helped me get through.
Speaker AThrough the death of Angela, you know, the more my morning process and.
Speaker AAnd we're there for each other, you know, that's.
Speaker AThat's what made our bond so strong.
Speaker AAnd so she ended up getting pregnant in 2015.
Speaker AAnd in 2016, I was out.
Speaker AShe gave birth.
Speaker AI seen my daughter, my first girl.
Speaker AMy daughter Delia, I named after my mom.
Speaker ASo it's my first girl, you know.
Speaker AAnd in 2000, we had her.
Speaker AIn 2016, I get locked.
Speaker AI get locked up.
Speaker AIn 2017, I'm out, and I'm doing.
Speaker AI'm still doing kind of good, you know, I'm not getting in trouble, but, you know, I'm out there, and I ended up getting hit by a truck getting off the bus.
Speaker AOkay, so in 2017, I get hit by a truck.
Speaker AShe's pregnant.
Speaker AShe's five months pregnant.
Speaker AWe already have Dahlia, so she's five months pregnant now with twins in 2017.
Speaker ASo I get hit by a truck getting off the bus, a city bus.
Speaker AAnd they put me on medication, and they put me on, like, all the pain medications.
Speaker AAnd so I started taking those pain medications, and I started getting addicted to the medication, you know, and when I.
Speaker AWhen I ran out the.
Speaker AYou know, I went and tried to go buy some more pills from the streets, you know, and somebody was like, I think I had, like, 30 bucks.
Speaker AAnd somebody was like, what do you think you can get with 30 bucks?
Speaker ALike, you're.
Speaker AYou only get one pill, you know, that's crazy.
Speaker AI just.
Speaker AI rather just go to my neighborhood, go spend the 30 bucks on something that's gonna help, you know, And I went.
Speaker AAnd that was the dumbest thing, one of the dumbest choices that I made at that time.
Speaker AAnd I went and I got heroin, you know, and I started my little adventure on that, you know, and it was.
Speaker AAnd, like, I said earlier, like that's, that's the drug that, that took my mom.
Speaker AYou know, I'm.
Speaker ABut for some reason, like I just feel like, God, like I had to go through this experience.
Speaker AI had to go through the experience of, I don't know, I guess being addicted and then seeing what the, what the love of that drug was that had my mom so invested in the streets and away from her kids that, you know, she couldn't be with, with her children.
Speaker AYou know what I mean?
Speaker AAnd for me, I mean that's not why I did it.
Speaker AI mean I just started doing it cuz I was, I got addicted to it, you know.
Speaker ABut I got add to heroin and, and I ended up going back.
Speaker AI get locked up for 9re.
Speaker AI got locked up for.
Speaker AOkay, so I get addicted to heroin.
Speaker AAfter I got hit by the truck in 2017, 18, I go, I go to prison, okay?
Speaker ACuz they got me, they caught me for, they got me with the grandma heroin and they gave me nine years.
Speaker AThey wrote me, they put me in the repeat offender program.
Speaker AI have never been caught with drugs in my life.
Speaker AYou know, I've never been arrested for drugs.
Speaker AThey could have been like, you know what, let's, let's help this dude out.
Speaker ALet's put them in a rehab or something.
Speaker AThey didn't do that.
Speaker AThey wanted.
Speaker AMy wife's five months pregnant, you know, and all.
Speaker AThey could have just sent me to rehab.
Speaker AThey.
Speaker AAnd they didn't give me nine years.
Speaker AShe's like.
Speaker AAnd my wife, she's the one that told me to sign the plea bargain.
Speaker AI wasn't going to sign it, you know what I mean?
Speaker ABecause it's, that's a lot of time.
Speaker AAnd so I, I signed it.
Speaker ABut.
Speaker ASo I signed the plea bargain and they gave me nine years and, and in 2017, so I went to prison.
Speaker AI got to finally got to prison in 18 and I went in there with a habit.
Speaker AAnd I gotta tell you man, that in where I was at in Buckeye, man, the, the yards are just infested with drugs, man.
Speaker ADays.
Speaker AIt's like, you're on.
Speaker AIt's like worse in the streets.
Speaker ALike it's just so, so ugly in there, man.
Speaker AIt's so bad.
Speaker ALike the devil just has a hold.
Speaker AHe has a very strong hold on those yards, you know.
Speaker ABut I like, I started doing, I found it like maybe about two, three years into my sentence because I was, I was addicted in there.
Speaker AI got real bad in there.
Speaker AYou see my arms are real bad.
Speaker AYou know, I, I Got really, really bad.
Speaker AOne day I'm out at Wreck and.
Speaker AAnd there's this homie right there.
Speaker AAnd he's like, hey, he's from.
Speaker AFrom Flagstaff.
Speaker AAnd he's like, hey, can I pray?
Speaker ACan I pray for you, man?
Speaker AI was like, you know, yeah, you want to pray for me?
Speaker AHe goes, yeah, just something telling me I want pray for you, man.
Speaker AI said, yeah, homie, you can pray for me.
Speaker AHe goes, I said, I don't mind kneeling, you know what I mean?
Speaker AI'll kneel.
Speaker ASo I kneeled and we prayed, man.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker AAnd something just came over me, man.
Speaker AWe prayed and he helped me through the prayer, you know, giving my life to.
Speaker ATo.
Speaker ATo God, you know, and, you know, something just grabbed me.
Speaker AIt was the Holy Spirit.
Speaker AIt was the first time I've ever felt the Holy Spirit in my life.
Speaker AI've never felt it up until that time, you know, and.
Speaker AOh, well, there was another time too.
Speaker ABut, you know, that, that time, like, I just.
Speaker AI knew it was.
Speaker AIt was God, you know, like, and all my life he's.
Speaker AHe's been there, you know, I know he's been there.
Speaker AYou know, I've read.
Speaker AI read the Bible.
Speaker AThere's always been Bibles in the joy, in the jails or everywhere I was going, you know, and, and.
Speaker ABut when I gave my life to God that day with, with, with.
Speaker AWith the homie, you know, it kind of changed me, you know, so in there, in prison, where everybody got to know triste and how triste was, I. I made a.
Speaker AThere, you know, I went to prison and, and, and, And I'm not proud of that.
Speaker AI'm not proud of that at all.
Speaker AYou know, I. I hate that I made a name for myself in there, but that's what it was.
Speaker AThat's what happened.
Speaker AThat was.
Speaker AThat's, you know, my experience, you know, and.
Speaker ABut I know that God, you know, he's.
Speaker AHe has something more for my life.
Speaker AAnd I believe that, you know, now that I have, you know, I. I have stage four cancer, Prostate cancer.
Speaker ALong story short, again, you know, A mixture fell on my leg.
Speaker AI went to the hospital and for my leg, you know, because it was.
Speaker AWas dead, like when they.
Speaker AAnd I was just having problems.
Speaker ASo we went and I had told them about blood being in my store as well, you know, and they ran some tests and they came back and they said that they found a large mass in my prostate and that.
Speaker AThat I have.
Speaker AThat I'm stage four.
Speaker AI have stage four cancer.
Speaker AI mean, you know, it's it's all through my spine, you know, and, you know, the doctors, like my wife and my sister, you know, they're.
Speaker AThey're all.
Speaker AEverybody's kind of taking it hard, and I'm just like, why, you guys?
Speaker AYou know what I mean?
Speaker AWhat's God?
Speaker AGod.
Speaker AYou guys have to believe that God is his hands and all this.
Speaker AYou know what I mean?
Speaker ALike, why.
Speaker AWhy fear?
Speaker AYou know what?
Speaker AI'm not fearing nothing.
Speaker AI. I know that he's got me, you know, and I believe that.
Speaker AThat's part of my testimony, you know, that.
Speaker ABecause the doctor's telling her five years, you know, okay, watch.
Speaker AWhen the 15th year comes around and I'm still all viejito and all right there, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker ALike, I could turn around, you know, I want to be able to turn around and say, you know what?
Speaker AThat's God, you know, God.
Speaker AGod still had his hand in my life all this time, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker AAnd I never lost that faith.
Speaker AI'm not going to lose it.
Speaker AIt's just building.
Speaker AI'm just getting stronger, you know, and it did.
Speaker AIt started off as a mustard seed in my life, you know, I'm not one of these dudes that.
Speaker AThat, you know, I'm not like a holy roller.
Speaker ALike, I don't.
Speaker AI'm not big, like, on, because, I don't know, like, verses by heart or, like, you know, I just.
Speaker AI just know the spirit.
Speaker AI just feel the spirit.
Speaker AAnd, you know, I just thank God that, that.
Speaker AThat, you know, he's given me life today, you know, that I was able to wake up this morning and enjoy today.
Speaker AYou know, that's how I'm looking at, you know, day for day.
Speaker AI'm taking it day by day.
Speaker AI forgot to mention my twins.
Speaker AHow can I do that?
Speaker ABecause she got pregnant and she got pregnant with twins.
Speaker AAnd so.
Speaker AExcuse me.
Speaker AShe.
Speaker AShe was pregnant with twins, a boy and a girl.
Speaker AAnd so when I got locked up, she was five months pregnant.
Speaker ASo they ended up giving me nine years.
Speaker AI ended up doing seven years.
Speaker AI just got released, like, maybe two and a half months ago, maybe three months ago.
Speaker AAnd like I said, I just.
Speaker AWe just barely found out.
Speaker AI got cancer, but I got twins.
Speaker AI got a little boy.
Speaker AHis name's Peter Emigano.
Speaker APeter and Italia.
Speaker ALisa.
Speaker AAnd they're.
Speaker AIt's a boy and a girl, you know, and they're.
Speaker AThey're seven years old.
Speaker AThey've been locked up.
Speaker AI mean, I was locked up the whole time.
Speaker AThey were.
Speaker AWell, she had Them when I was.
Speaker AWhen I had got locked up.
Speaker ASo I was in there the whole.
Speaker ATheir whole.
Speaker AI've been in their whole time.
Speaker ASo this is the first year that I'm actually going to be out for their.
Speaker ATheir birthday.
Speaker AThey're going to turn eight.
Speaker ATheir birthday's on Thanksgiving.
Speaker AThis year, it falls on Thanksgiving.
Speaker ASo we're going to get to make a big Thanksgiving, you know, and, And.
Speaker AAnd, you know, we're going to be able to make a good little meal, you know, make a good turkey and a birthday.
Speaker AI want to fry a turkey, man.
Speaker AI. I had fried turkey one time.
Speaker CAnd never tried it before.
Speaker CAlways wanted to, but I scared to burn down my house.
Speaker ANever went back.
Speaker AYou.
Speaker AYou eat fried turkey, you'll never go back to baked turkey.
Speaker AI don't.
Speaker AI don't know.
Speaker AIt's just my opinion.
Speaker CYou have fried turkey, Ben?
Speaker CI have what you like.
Speaker BWhat are your thoughts?
Speaker BI overcooked it.
Speaker BSo you made it yourself?
Speaker BYeah, I tried it.
Speaker BI tried it.
Speaker CWas it peanut oil or something?
Speaker BI left it in there too, because I didn't want it to be raw.
Speaker BI left it a little bit longer and it was a little too crunchy.
Speaker BBut now I smoke the turkeys and that.
Speaker BThat's pretty legit, bro.
Speaker AOh, yeah, that's good.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ADid you do it for a day or two or something or just.
Speaker BNo, it's like slow cooking it.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BSix, seven hours.
Speaker BIt's like a slow cook.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ASmoking it.
Speaker ASmoke.
Speaker BIt's good, dude.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AYeah, that's good.
Speaker AI don't know how to do that.
Speaker CTo do a Jen Saki.
Speaker CCircling back, do you feel like when you were in prison and you said you knelt down there, do you feel like that's the time that you got saved, that you had that personal relationship with Jesus Christ?
Speaker AWell, no, because.
Speaker ABecause I got this.
Speaker AI gotta say, maybe about four years ago.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AFour years ago, like, I just had enough.
Speaker AI was in there strung out.
Speaker AMy wife was so, like, she was just.
Speaker AI was.
Speaker AI was so struck out in there, man.
Speaker AI was.
Speaker AIt was ugly.
Speaker AIt was ugly.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker AAnd she had to be the one out here take raising my children, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker ALike, she.
Speaker AThat's why I say that.
Speaker AGod just.
Speaker CBless you.
Speaker AYeah, he.
Speaker AThere's.
Speaker AThere's a hand in my life.
Speaker AHe's had a hand in my life.
Speaker AAnd, you know, she.
Speaker AShe's been.
Speaker AShe's been a writer, man.
Speaker AShe's.
Speaker AShe stuck it out and she now, like, you know, I'm.
Speaker AWe got a house and My kids, you know, and so it's just.
Speaker ANow it's different, you know, us.
Speaker ASorry, I just forgot where I was going with it.
Speaker CBut you're talking about four years.
Speaker CYou had got.
Speaker CYou felt like you got saved four years ago.
Speaker AOh, okay.
Speaker AOkay, okay.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ASo.
Speaker ASo I was still strung out in there and.
Speaker AAnd I was.
Speaker AI was like.
Speaker AShe was having to pay bills and do all kinds of stuff.
Speaker ALike, not all kinds of crazy stuff, but just like, I just hold it down right by herself out here, you know?
Speaker AAnd me, I'm in there being a Tonto, being.
Speaker ABeing an idiot, you know, doing dumb in there.
Speaker AAnd I'm telling you, man, like, you guys seen like, all the stuff when they show it on TV about how.
Speaker AHow wild it was in there.
Speaker AI was in there when indoors were open like that.
Speaker AGuys were walking out of their cells 12 o' clock at night, going to other buildings, walking around like there's just nothing.
Speaker ALike it's a dorm and it's prison.
Speaker AYou know what I mean?
Speaker ALike, doors are supposed to be locked, you know, 12 o', clock, midnight.
Speaker AIt's not supposed to be.
Speaker AAnd that's how it was.
Speaker AIt was really like that, man.
Speaker AIt was crazy.
Speaker AIt was.
Speaker AIt was like, you're out in the park and you got your homes.
Speaker AThere's like 10 dudes in one cell.
Speaker AEverybody around doing.
Speaker AYeah, doing drugs, walking, just living, partying.
Speaker AThat's all it was, you know?
Speaker AAnd so when I.
Speaker AFor, like about four years ago, I just had enough.
Speaker AI was just so burnt out, and I just felt like, you know what?
Speaker AOkay, now I understand what.
Speaker AWhat this is about.
Speaker ALike, God, you know what?
Speaker AI'm done.
Speaker AI completely surrendered my life to you.
Speaker AI'm done.
Speaker AI'm completely done.
Speaker AI no longer want to think or do or say anything that had to do with my old self.
Speaker AI'm giving you the keys to my car.
Speaker AOf my life.
Speaker AIt's all in your hands.
Speaker AI got down on my knees and I just.
Speaker AI just prayed.
Speaker AAnd then I asked him, father, come into my life.
Speaker AYou know, I accept you as my.
Speaker AMy Lord and Savior.
Speaker AYou know, I know you died on the cross for my sins.
Speaker AI know that, that.
Speaker AThat you suffered for.
Speaker AFor me, you know, And I thank you and I'm sorry that you had to go through all that, you know, because I'm sure it hurt, you know, like, and.
Speaker ABut I thank him, you know, like, he.
Speaker AHe endured so much, like, for everybody, you know, and I thank him, you know, like, I just so.
Speaker AI gave my life to him that day.
Speaker AAnd I gotta say, man, that.
Speaker ARemember I told you about when I felt the Holy Spirit, like, I tell it to my people, jj.
Speaker AAnd he kind of laughed at me because I feel like, okay, I was laying there.
Speaker AExcuse me.
Speaker AWhen I gave.
Speaker AI, I, you know, I prayed and I, I was laying there and I just felt like, okay, you remember the Ghostbusters and you remember Slimer?
Speaker AHow he should just be able to go to the.
Speaker ASo I felt like.
Speaker AI just felt something like that go like into my pants, up from the side, like frills, like, it's.
Speaker AIt was just, it was weird.
Speaker AI can't explain.
Speaker AAnd I just, you know, I, I mean, I didn't.
Speaker AIt was nothing crazy after that, but I just, like, I started just, just being so invested.
Speaker AI just stayed away.
Speaker AI got away from a lot of dudes that I was hanging around with because a lot of guys are in prison over there where I was at.
Speaker AYou know, that's like every old retirement.
Speaker AYou, you go to retire over there, you know, and so a lot of the dudes there, I knew, but everybody's so addicted.
Speaker AEverybody is just.
Speaker AThey're just crazy over there.
Speaker AIt's just nuts.
Speaker AAnd it's.
Speaker ASo when I would go out to wreck, I would go.
Speaker AI would take my Bible and I would go out there by myself.
Speaker AI started by myself, you know, and there was this one dude that I knew from when I was a kid in Adobe Mountain.
Speaker AYou know, I seen him and he came and he was like, hey, can I read the Bible?
Speaker AYeah, man, come on.
Speaker ASo me and him would just go out there and read the Bible together.
Speaker AWe would have Bible study.
Speaker AWe'd have wrecked every other day.
Speaker ASo I'll go out there and everybody would be in their little.
Speaker ADoing their own things, but it's basically just everybody around tables doing drugs, you know, So I had to just separate myself from that and, and I would take my Bible out there and I would have.
Speaker AI would have Bible study.
Speaker AAnd it started to grow a little bit, you know, I mean, guys started to come little by little.
Speaker AAnd so that was like the last six months that I did here.
Speaker AJust like the last six months.
Speaker AAnd you know, there was a few guys that got saved.
Speaker ALike, they, they came, they came to Christ, you know, we're able to bring a couple dudes to, to the Lord.
Speaker AOur little prayer group got pretty big, you know, and, and you know, I just pray over them guys, man, that, that are struggling there with, with that stuff, man.
Speaker ACuz it's, it's ugly, you know, and it's sad that, you know, they just.
Speaker AThe way I was just listening to something on.
Speaker AOn.
Speaker AOn YouTube or something about what they were talking about how DLC changed their name from, yeah, a Doc Rehabilitation.
Speaker CAnd they put different words in there.
Speaker CI just saw my.
Speaker CMy friend yesterday.
Speaker CHe's over there in Kingman, Arizona.
Speaker CSo he's in the private prison Dre or something.
Speaker CBut he said, yeah, they changed the name and they put rehabilitation.
Speaker CAnd he's like, there's nothing in there to rehabilitate you.
Speaker CThere's no tools.
Speaker AAnd that's.
Speaker AAnd that's where.
Speaker AThat's what kind of sucks, man, because it's re Entry rehabilitation, reentry.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAnd, you know, like I said, I just got out.
Speaker AI got out June.
Speaker AJune 23rd or July 23rd or something, but I've only been out, like three months maybe, you know, and when I get.
Speaker AWhen you get out, they're supposed to, like, help you be set up with, like, food stamps or whatever you need help with.
Speaker AAnd they didn't give me none of that.
Speaker AYou know what I mean?
Speaker ASo it's just like, what do you.
Speaker AWhat do you real.
Speaker AIt was just.
Speaker AAnd it.
Speaker AIt sucks, man.
Speaker AIt sucks because, you know, taxpayers are paying for.
Speaker AFor, you know, people to be getting rehabilitated, man.
Speaker ABut, you know, I've always said this all my life, is that, you know, I had to really rehabilitate myself, you know, with God's help, you know, and I had to find a way.
Speaker AI had to ride it out, grind it out, you know, and.
Speaker AAnd I think I. I kind of finally got it, you know, maybe not fully yet, you know, but God is still working on me.
Speaker AHe still has his hand in my life, and that's what.
Speaker AWhat's all I got.
Speaker AYou know, I. I can only hope that, you know, there's somebody out there that.
Speaker AThat, you know, going through it or feeling like, you know what I mean?
Speaker AThey can't get through it, bro.
Speaker AShe can get through it, you know, I mean, like, you seek God, man, and just give it all to him, and, you know what I mean?
Speaker AHe got, you know, it's.
Speaker AIt's just keeping that faith, you know.
Speaker CSo as you shared this with our listeners, right, And I really appreciate you, you know, pouring your heart out and, you know, telling your story, and you're really saying this to.
Speaker CBy your kids, your family, your wife, you know, your.
Speaker CYour primos, even J.J. you know, will include him as well.
Speaker CYou know, what would you.
Speaker CAs a final point, what would you want to.
Speaker CWhat would you want to convey to, you know, the listeners of this podcast.
Speaker AYou know, no, just.
Speaker AJust to add, you know, what I just said, you know, that, you know, in life, man, sometimes, you know, like, we hit.
Speaker AWe hit.
Speaker AWe hit areas in your life, you know, we hit areas in our lives that.
Speaker AThat we may not understand, you know, like.
Speaker AOr situations that happen to us, you know, like.
Speaker AOr things that happen in life, you know, there's a purpose for that, you know, like, and.
Speaker AAnd a lot of it is.
Speaker AIs just God.
Speaker AGod.
Speaker AGod's work, what.
Speaker AHe's.
Speaker AWhat he has, you know, and, you know, I just.
Speaker AI just want the people to know, you know, that God is real.
Speaker AYou know, Jesus Christ is for reals, you know, and he's.
Speaker AHe's there, man.
Speaker AYou know, he's not.
Speaker AHe doesn't forsake us, you know, he really doesn't.
Speaker AYou know, He's.
Speaker AHe's so good and loving, you know, I just.
Speaker AI don't know.
Speaker AI guess that's it, you know?
Speaker CAnd I mean, so just to kind of.
Speaker CI think it'll help, you know, reiterate the point of what you're saying and how you said all through your life, you saw God working.
Speaker CAnd I remember when I was a kid, I was maybe 6 or 7, and I heard a preacher talk, preach.
Speaker CAnd I don't know why this stuck with me for all these years.
Speaker CI mean.
Speaker CI mean, I'm 49 now, so about 42 years ago, I heard this.
Speaker CAnd because my mom, sometimes, I don't know if she, you know, crocheted, I don't know what they call it, but it's like.
Speaker CIt's like a wood frame, and they put cloth over it and it has, like, dots and they sew through it, right?
Speaker CAnd the preacher talked about, like, when he was a little boy, he would see that, and he would be laying on his mom's lap, and he would look up and you see this.
Speaker CThe threads going through and all kind of threads, and it looks ugly.
Speaker CAnd, you know, in our.
Speaker CIn our eyesight that we can see, we look up at that, we're like.
Speaker CHe would say, mom, that looks so ugly.
Speaker BLike.
Speaker CLike he thought his mom was terrible at what she was doing, and she finished it and she showed it to him, and he's like, wow.
Speaker CLike, it looked beautiful.
Speaker CIt was a house, a stream, a beautiful picture, right?
Speaker CBut what he saw was very ugly because he just saw the.
Speaker CThe knots and the ends of the bottom.
Speaker CThe bottom of the threads.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CAnd I think that's.
Speaker CThat's our life, right?
Speaker CAnd God Sees the big picture and even the hardships, even our sin, right.
Speaker COur consequences, he uses them in our life and paints a beautiful picture that only he could paint.
Speaker CRight?
Speaker CAnd I just.
Speaker CI get that image, too.
Speaker CI just see in your life, as you look up, you're like, man, you know, there are a lot of mistakes, right?
Speaker CAnd all of us have made mistakes.
Speaker CAnd we look at it and we're like, how could God do anything with that?
Speaker CBut he does.
Speaker CI mean, you sharing your story, I. I believe will help others.
Speaker CAnd we may see just the knots and the threads and just the ugliness of it, but God sees a beautiful picture.
Speaker CAnd each one of us, as you said, right.
Speaker CHas a unique picture that he paints in our lives based upon the things he's allowed in our lives, the trials and the tribulation, especially what you're going through right now.
Speaker CAnd.
Speaker CAnd I encourage our listeners to pray for.
Speaker CFor Peter and, you know, just what he's going through and just the awesomeness of reuniting with your family your first Christmas.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CWith your kids, first Thanksgiving.
Speaker CAnd there's going to be a lot of first.
Speaker CAnd I pray that God gives you many more years first with your family.
Speaker CBut we appreciate you coming on our podcast and sharing your testimony.
Speaker CIt's very powerful.
Speaker BYeah, just say thank you, bro.
Speaker BIt's encouraging.
Speaker BI was.
Speaker BI was thinking of a verse right now, just kind of what you guys are talking about.
Speaker BAnd.
Speaker BAnd, yeah, I mean, that, you know, everybody's got the.
Speaker BThe ebbs and flows of life, and some have it worse than I think.
Speaker BYou know, me and my wife talk about this all the time, that, you know, there's always somebody out there that's hurting worse than you are, and there's always somebody that's, you know, broken or there's a lot of brokenness.
Speaker BYou know, look, even in the church, like you, there's people in the church, and there's just a lot of people that are broken.
Speaker BThere's just a lot of trials and tribulations people go through.
Speaker BBut the verse I was thinking about was Romans 8, 28.
Speaker BI mean, it's one of my favorite verses of the Bible.
Speaker BAnd we know that all.
Speaker BAll those who love God, all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose.
Speaker BAnd I think that's what it is like God.
Speaker BGod can take evil and make good out of it.
Speaker BHe can take.
Speaker BHe can take a broken and fix it.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BI mean, he's just.
Speaker BThat's what he's in the business of doing.
Speaker BAnd I think, like you said, too.
Speaker BYou said, you know, kind of like we're a work in progress, right?
Speaker BWe're not there yet, but we're.
Speaker BAnd we all are, bro.
Speaker BLike, all of us are working progress.
Speaker BBut it's encouraging to see, I mean, where God has taken you from.
Speaker BI mean, we started out in growing up in Guadalupe and, And now you.
Speaker BI mean, you are in.
Speaker BIn a trial right now, bro.
Speaker BBut, but you're looking back and saying, man, God had his hand in my life at every step of the way, and he still has his hand on my life even in your current situation.
Speaker BAnd it's encouraging to me as a believer, as a brother, you know, I mean, we're part of the family of God, right?
Speaker APraise God.
Speaker AAmen.
Speaker BYeah, it's, man, it's a beautiful thing to see God working in somebody's life, bro.
Speaker BSo thank you for sharing that story, bro.
Speaker BIt's.
Speaker BIt's heavy, bro, but it's.
Speaker BBut it's.
Speaker BIt's awesome to see how God's working.
Speaker AIn your life, bro.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AThank you, guys.
Speaker AThank you guys for having me, man.
Speaker AI appreciate that, you know, I do.
Speaker AI. I hope that, that my story can help somebody, you know what I mean?
Speaker AAnd, and like I said, I don't.
Speaker AI don't praise any of the negative stuff that I talked about in my story, you know, and, you know, I just hope that, you know, somebody can find some.
Speaker ASome type of encouraging, you know, encouragement.
Speaker AThat's all I got.
Speaker AYou know, I mean, that's.
Speaker AThat's what, that's what Peter Daniel got.
Speaker ASo thank you guys for having me, man.
Speaker BThanks for.
Speaker BThanks for coming on the show, bro.
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