You cannot pass.
Speaker AStand out.
Speaker BI am servant of the Secret Fire.
Speaker AWielder of the flame of Arnor.
Speaker AThe dark fire will not avail you, flame of Ulung.
Speaker AGo back to the shadow.
Speaker AYou shall not pass.
Speaker CFamily, you fool.
Speaker AIn a world overflowing with movies, we need a hero.
Speaker CSomeone to separate the bad from the good.
Speaker CHi everyone, I'm Em and welcome to verbal diorama, episode 298, the Lord of the Rings, the Fellowship of the Ring.
Speaker CThis is the podcast that's all about the history and legacy.
Speaker CMaybe you know and maybe you don't.
Speaker CThat is never late Frodo Baggins, nor is she early.
Speaker CShe arrives precisely when she means to welcome to Verbal Diorama.
Speaker CWhether you're a brand new listener to this podcast, welcome back regular returning listeners.
Speaker CThank you for being here.
Speaker CThank you for choosing to listen to this podcast.
Speaker CI am so happy to have you here for the history and Legacy of the Lord of the Rings the Fellowship of the Ring this is a bit of a momentous occasion.
Speaker CThis is the first of a three part special trilogy of episodes that's going to be making us web to the 300th episode of this podcast.
Speaker CBut just a huge thank you to everyone who listens to this podcast who supports this podcast and has continued to listen to and support this podcast over the last six years and almost 300 episodes.
Speaker CIt genuinely is incredible really that I have you here, but also thank you so much for your support because it genuinely means so much.
Speaker CSo here we are, the run up to the 300th episode of Verbal Diorama.
Speaker CThis is basically the second of a five part episode on the history and legacy of the Lord of the Rings, focusing on Peter Jackson's trilogy but then sandwiched between two animated versions, Rath Bakshi's the Lord of the Rings from 1978, which was last episode, and 2024's the Lord of the Rings the War of the Rohirrin, which will be episode 301 of this podcast.
Speaker CNow if you haven't listened to the last episode on the Lord of the rings from 1978, you technically don't need to.
Speaker CBut I would recommend it even if you haven't seen that movie because Tolkien's history as well as his estate's control of the material is important to know for Jackson's movies as well as Saul's ain't linked to the rights as I'm going to come to the estate didn't have anything to do with these adaptations by Peter Jackson, but Saul Zainz is a key figure so this is technically the second of a five part complete story, but the first of three interconnected stories.
Speaker CAnd because Peter Jackson filmed these movies back to back, I want to split out the making of them all covered across the three episodes, but also talk about the trilogy as a whole across the three episodes.
Speaker CAnd if you're wondering why, I guess it's because one does not simply walk into Mordor.
Speaker CIt takes time, planning a team.
Speaker CI don't have a team.
Speaker CI have Evie and Peggy on hand, Therp cuddles and Purrs, and maybe at the end Gandalf will have to summon the eagles for a quick rescue.
Speaker CBecause this is kind of unprecedented what I'm doing for these episodes.
Speaker CThis episode will be focusing on the beginning of Peter Jackson's vision for the series, his dealings with Miramax, the move to New Line Cinema, the various changes that they made to the source material, and specifics on the Fellowship of the Ring, including the casting choices for the entire series.
Speaker CAnd I also want to focus in this episode on the incredible costume design for the series as well.
Speaker CThe next episode will be focusing on the Two Towers, the Battle of Helm's Deep, and the introduction of and technology surrounding Gollum, as well as I also want to go into the production and art design choices for the entire series.
Speaker CThe third episode and the 300th episode of this podcast will be focusing on the Return of the King, but also the visual effects by Weta Workshop, the music across all of the movies by Howard Shaw, how the Return of the King became one of the biggest Academy Award winning films of all time, as well as the everlasting legacy of these movies, specifically from fan culture to setting a precedent that Peter Jackson's Hobbit trilogy then had to follow.
Speaker CThe final episode, episode 301, will be on the recent anime the War of the Rahirim, but also the effect the Lord of the Rings and the Hobbit has had on New Zealand's tourism and film industries, plus also the retaining of the rights to the Lord of the Rings and also the future of the franchise as well.
Speaker CNow, in all honesty, as I said, this is kind of unprecedented how I'm tackling these three movies, because these three movies were not made to be tackled individually.
Speaker CThey are three parts of a complete story and they were filmed back to back.
Speaker CSo a lot of the production stories and the stories behind the scenes actually cover all three movies.
Speaker CSo I don't even know if this is even gonna work in the way I intend it to work.
Speaker CBut just like Peter Jackson, I'm gonna Do it anyway.
Speaker CHe did three movies shot simultaneously out of sequence.
Speaker CBut I'm gonna do three episodes recorded in sequence but containing details from the simultaneous shoot.
Speaker CSo these episodes will tell each story but also one big story suitable for the One Ring.
Speaker CI do feel a little bit like Sauron's eye is trained on me and this does feel like a bit of a quest in all honesty.
Speaker CBut I am going to reach the end of the quest and hopefully I've not bitten off more second breakfast than I can chew.
Speaker CHere's the trailer for the Lord of the Rings.
Speaker CThe Fellowship of the Ring.
Speaker CThe start of the number one trilogy.
Speaker BIn the lands of Middle Earth legend tells of the dark Lord Sauron and the ring that would give him the power to enslave the world lost.
Speaker BFor centuries it has been sought by many and has now found its way into the helm of the most unlikely person imaginable.
Speaker BSauron needs only this ring to cover all the lands in darkness.
Speaker DWhat must I do?
Speaker BThe Ring must be destroyed.
Speaker BThe Ring must be cast back into the fires of Mount Doom.
Speaker BThere is evil there that does not sleep.
Speaker BSauron's forces are already moving.
Speaker BThey will find the Ring and kill the one who carries it.
Speaker ACome on, Frodo.
Speaker DI cannot do this alone.
Speaker CYou have my sword.
Speaker AAnd you have my bow and my axe.
Speaker EThis task was appointed to you.
Speaker EAnd if you do not find a way, no one will.
Speaker BThe enemy has many spies.
Speaker BBirds, beasts.
Speaker ESomething draws near.
Speaker EI can feel it.
Speaker AGet off the road.
Speaker AHide.
Speaker CAlmost.
Speaker BRemember, Frodo.
Speaker BThe Ring is trying to get back to its master.
Speaker BIt wants to be found.
Speaker BLet us hope that our presence may go unnoticed.
Speaker BThey are coming.
Speaker AWe must turn back.
Speaker DWish the ring had never come to me.
Speaker ABack, you devils.
Speaker DI wish none of this had happened.
Speaker EYou will find your courage.
Speaker BIf you want him, come and claim him.
Speaker AYou shall not pass.
Speaker CThe future rests in the fate of the One Ring which has been lost for centuries.
Speaker CPowerful forces are unrelenting in their search for it but fate has placed it in the hands of a young hobbit called Frodo Baggins who inherits the Ring and unwittingly becomes the savior of Middle Earth.
Speaker CA daunting task lies ahead for Frodo when he becomes the Ring bearer.
Speaker CTo destroy the One Ring in the fires of Mount Doom where it was forged.
Speaker CHe's joined by eight companions to aid him in his quest.
Speaker CThey are the Fellowship of the Ring.
Speaker CLet's run through the cast of this movie and most of the movies going forward but we'll focus primarily on the cast of this movie we have Elijah Wood as Frodo Baggins, Ian McKellen as Gandalf, Viggo Mortensen as Aragorn, Sean Astin as Samwise Gamgee, Sean Bean as Boromir, Billy Boyd as Peregrine Took, Dominic Monaghan as Mary Adot Brandybuck, John Rhys Davis as Gimli, Orlando Bloom as Legolas, Liv Tyler as Arwen, Cate Blanchett as Galadriel, Christopher Lee as Saruman the White, Hugo Weaving as Elrond, Ian Holm as Bilbo Baggins and Andy Serkis as Gollum.
Speaker CThe Lord of the the Fellowship of the Ring has a screenplay by Fran Walsh, Philippa Boyens and Peter Jackson was directed by Peter Jackson and was based on the Fellowship of The Ring by J.R.R.
Speaker Ctolkien.
Speaker CAnd the story of the Lord of the Rings starts as all good stories should, with Michael J.
Speaker CFox.
Speaker CSort of, but not really.
Speaker CBut before Peter Jackson was the Peter Jackson of the Lord of the Rings trilogy, he was Peter Jackson.
Speaker CRisky weird horror director, but one of his most underrated movies actually came about in 1996 and I've done an episode on it too.
Speaker CIt is a wonderful movie.
Speaker CIt's episode 103 of this podcast that movie stars Michael J.
Speaker CFox and it is the Frighteners.
Speaker CHow does the Frighteners have anything to do with the Lord of the Rings?
Speaker CWell, apart from a couple of scary scenes, not much.
Speaker CBut it's really a story of what's going on behind the scenes of the Frighteners.
Speaker CThat's important because pretty much everything in the Frighteners is a precursor to what Peter Jackson would do next.
Speaker CEverything from the balance between practical effects and CGI to the New Zealand based production and the fact that Universal offered Peter Jackson the opportunity to make King Kong led to the Lord of the Rings trilogy.
Speaker CSpoiler.
Speaker CHe didn't make King Kong next after all, but he would go on to make King Kong after these movies.
Speaker CThe creation of Weta Digital for Jackson's movie Heavenly Creatures would be pivotal to the story too.
Speaker CAfter the Frighteners, Peter Jackson and his partner Fran Walsh wanted to do something high fantasy and original.
Speaker COriginal being the operative word.
Speaker CBut everything they thought of sounded very Tolkien.
Speaker CAnd Jackson wondered why Hollywood just didn't want to seem to touch the Lord of the rings since Ralph Bakshi's version in 1978, which, as I mentioned last episode, Jackson saw as a child and it made him curious to read the books and find out more.
Speaker CEven with Bakshi's ambitious attempt at a rotoscoped Version no one in Hollywood seemed to want to talk about the idea of making it fully live action.
Speaker CIt seemed to be outside of the realm of possibility and also expense.
Speaker CAs CGI technology began developing in the late 1980s and early 1990s, there were renewed considerations about whether a live action adaptation might finally be feasible.
Speaker CHowever, the technology was still deemed insufficient or too expensive for the massive scale required.
Speaker CJackson also is seemingly an unlikely choice for this long awaited adaptation.
Speaker CHe was primarily known as a low budget, visceral horror comedy director and he wanted to take on a movie deemed unfilmable, especially in live action.
Speaker CQuestion mark Jackson was contracted to Miramax Films at the time, but via the go to Miramax, Jackson's agent tracked down the Tolkien film rights to Saul Zaintz.
Speaker CAnd it turned out that Zainz owed Harvey Weinstein a favorite and it was all down to the English patient.
Speaker C20th Century Fox had originally agreed to finance the English Patient with Jeremy Irons and Juliet Binoche, but withdrew that financing when director Anthony Minguela insisted on casting Ralph Fiennes instead.
Speaker CThis left Sainz in a difficult financial position.
Speaker CHalfway through filming in Italy and North Africa, they ran out of money.
Speaker CThis is when Weinstein and Miramax entered the picture, providing approximately $6 million to complete the English Patient.
Speaker CIn exchange, Miramax acquired the North American distribution rights.
Speaker CThe English Patient went on to become a critical and commercial success, winning nine Academy Awards, including Best Picture in 1997.
Speaker CThe film ultimately grossed over $230 million worldwide against its $27 million budget and Saul Zainz was then indebted to Harvey Weinstein.
Speaker CSo when Jackson went to Weinstein inquiring about the rights to the Lord of the Rings, Weinstein went to Saints and optioned the rights to Tolkien's work, with Jackson pitching one film based on the Hobbit and a two part adaptation of the Lord of the Rings shot back to back, released six months apart, it was an unprecedented level of ambition.
Speaker CAnd this was in the mid-90s, years before anything concrete, just preliminary talks.
Speaker CBut Saul Zaynt was impressed with Jackson's passion and like Ralph Bakshi before him, Jackson was all about keeping it true to Tolkien's vision.
Speaker CWhile the distribution rights of the Hobbit remained with United Artists, Sainz agreed to license the rights to the Lord of the Rings eventually.
Speaker CIt took a while, basically a year of negotiations between Saints and the Weinsteins.
Speaker CIt took for Jackson to agree to make King Kong with Universal, only for them to then cancel King Kong in 1997.
Speaker CIt was after the sudden cancellation by Universal.
Speaker CThat pushed Jackson and Walsh into beginning the process of sorting out the rights with Weinstein, which then took a further six weeks.
Speaker CMiramax rejected the idea of three films, but acquiesced to the idea of two when they realized that doing it in one would be unmanageable.
Speaker CA screening of Bakshi's version at a story conference put this into perspective.
Speaker CNo one wanted to be getting to the Battle of Helm's Deep and then stopping the story again.
Speaker CJax's initial idea was for two films.
Speaker CThe first would be called the Fellowship of the Ring, which would cover the novel of that name and the Two Towers.
Speaker CAnd then the sequel would be the War of the Ring, which would cover the Return of the King.
Speaker CThe first film would have ended with Saruman's death and the second would start with the Battle at Minas Tirith.
Speaker CThe Weinsteins agreed on two films and a budget of $75 million total, which seems pretty ludicrous for what they were trying to achieve.
Speaker CBut financial issues will be forthcoming at this point.
Speaker CThe Weinsteins are keen to Americanize the cast.
Speaker CBut Harvey Weinstein, being the absolute worst that he is and always will be and was at this point was already blacklisting actresses who refused to sleep with him.
Speaker CSo while Jackson was interested in casting Mira Salvino and Ashley Judd, Weinstein dissuaded him from considering them.
Speaker CNo one knew at the time both Silvino and Judd had been sexually harassed by Weinstein.
Speaker CAnd of course it would take decades for that revelation and the myriad of others to come to light.
Speaker CWriting the scripts and condensing Tolkien's extensive story into two films would be a task.
Speaker CAnd in mid-1997, Jackson and Walsh began writing with Stephen Sinclair.
Speaker CAnd Sinclair's partner, Philippa Boyens joined them to write two scripts in 14 months of 147 and 144 pages respectively.
Speaker CAt the same time, Weta Digital were working on developing new proprietary software and conceptually designed the films, including buying designs from Rav Bakshi.
Speaker CJackson and Miramax agreed to a 110 day filming schedule.
Speaker CJackson had already built film facilities in Wellington through his company, Weta Workshop.
Speaker CThis gave them a base of operations with existing technical capabilities for a shoot beginning in April 1999 for a Christmas 2000 and Memorial Day 2001 release.
Speaker CBut the budget was beginning to worry Miramax, who asked for cost cutting rewrites.
Speaker CThey sent producers to New Zealand to oversee the work.
Speaker COne of them, Marty Katz, reported back that the movies would cost Double that initial $75 million.
Speaker CBudget, and Miramax just didn't have the funds for that.
Speaker CSo Miramax went to Disney chairman Joe Roth and CEO Michael Eisner to light the beacons and request budgetary aid for the Lord of the Rings.
Speaker CEisner himself had recently demanded Disney cut its own costs, and so the parent company declined to help.
Speaker CEisner would say it was due to Weinstein refusing to allow him to review the project or meet with Jackson.
Speaker CFran Walsh would suggest it was due to a lack of faith in the project, specifically in Peter Jackson's ability to make something that was a bit more family friendly than his previous films.
Speaker CAfter unsuccessfully trying to get other studios on board to partner with them, Miramax instead suggested making just one movie and commissioned Jack Leckner to condense the story from two films to one.
Speaker CHe suggested cutting Bree in the Battle of Helm's Deep, losing or using Saruman, merging Rohan and Gondor, and making Eowyn, Boromir's sister, shortening Rivendell and Moria, losing the Balrog and the fight in Balin's Tomb in the process, as well as having Ents prevent the Uruk Hai from kidnapping Merry and Pippin.
Speaker CIt was essentially an ultimatum from Harvey Weinstein.
Speaker CJackson could either condense all three books into a single two hour film, make two films with a drastically reduced budget, or abandoned the project entirely.
Speaker CJackson refused to compromise on what he felt would destroy the integrity of Tolkien's work, in particular the suggestion to combine everything into one film that would have required cutting major storylines and characters.
Speaker CMiramax then declared that everything Weta had done thus far and also the scripts, belonged to them.
Speaker CWeinstein gave Jackson about four weeks to find another studio willing to take on the project.
Speaker CIf unsuccessful, Miramax would proceed with their condensed version with another director to be written by Hussein Amini, who was a fan of the work they'd already done up to this point.
Speaker CWeinstein used his typical bullying tactics to try to get Jackson to agree to his requests, including trying to call Jackson's bluff that Quentin Tarantino was going to direct.
Speaker CMiramax agreed to put the films in turnaround for that four week period only.
Speaker CAnd if Jackson couldn't find another studio willing to make his movies, they would make them, but without the scripts or Weta's work, after being told legally they didn't have ownership of either.
Speaker CThey also demanded that if he did find another studio, that that new studio would have to repay Remax's investment plus agree to give them 5% of the revenue.
Speaker CJackson and his manager Kent Cannings, began Frantically pitching to other studios with a 35 minute making of video to use to promote the work they've done so far.
Speaker CSony declined disliking the script.
Speaker C20th Century Fox declined due to Saul Zainz and potentially the issues surrounding the English Patient.
Speaker CPolygram were interested, but were being bought by Universal at the time.
Speaker CWhen Jackson and C approached New Line Cinema, where Jackson's friend Mark Ordesky worked, something unexpected happened.
Speaker CNew Line Cinema were known as the House that Freddie Built.
Speaker CThey were known primarily as a horror franchise studio with A Nightmare on Elm street and Texas Chainsaw Massacre both being successful.
Speaker CIn 1994, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles became the highest grossing independent film of all time.
Speaker CWhile the company had sustained some losses in the late 90s, CEO Robert Shea knew the company needed a new lucrative franchise, and he'd heard about Miramax acquiring the rights to the Lord of the Rings.
Speaker CWhen Mark or Deschi approached him to suggest they get involved, Shea initially refused because of the Weinstein's demands.
Speaker CBut he met with Jackson.
Speaker CNow Bob Shea intuitively understood that Tolkien's three book structure provided a natural framework for three films rather than two.
Speaker COr indeed one.
Speaker CAnd this was something Jackson immediately liked.
Speaker CThe Sound of Moonlight insisted on three films rather than two.
Speaker CShea also recognized the potential for a major franchise at a time when studios were increasingly focusing on tentpole properties.
Speaker CThree successful films would generate far more revenue than one or two.
Speaker CWhile the upfront investment would be enormous, around $300 million for all three films, shooting them simultaneously created significant production efficiencies compared to making them separately.
Speaker CBy producing three films at once, they could spread marketing costs and build audience momentum across multiple releases rather than betting everything on a single film.
Speaker CMost importantly to Bob Shea, as a smaller studio operating under the Time Warner umbrella, they needed a breakthrough project to compete with larger studios.
Speaker CThere was nothing bigger or more ambitious than the Lord of the Rings.
Speaker CIt was a risk, but unlike back in the 70s, they had the technology.
Speaker CWetter Digital was at the forefront of motion capture and cg, and filming in New Zealand offered remarkable geographical diversity within a relatively small area.
Speaker CWithin short distances, they could access mountains, forests, volcanic regions, rolling hills and plains that closely matched Tolkien's descriptions of Middle Earth.
Speaker CNot to mention the New Zealand government providing significant tax breaks and financial incentives to attract the massive production.
Speaker CJackson, Walsh and Boyen set about writing three new scripts, consulted Tolkien's biography, letters and scholarly books written on his works.
Speaker CThe expansion to three films allowed much more creative freedom.
Speaker CAnd while the three films don't correspond exactly to the trilogy's Three volumes.
Speaker CThey represent a three part adaptation which is a more chronological approach to the story.
Speaker CFrodo's quest becomes the main focus with Aragorn as the main subplot, and he would be transformed from confident king in Waiting in the books to a more reluctant hero in the films.
Speaker CThere were structural changes, character alterations, significant omissions, added elements and tonal shifts.
Speaker CNotable differences included the timelines being compressed from 17 years in the books to a matter of months in the films.
Speaker CCertain chapters and characters were omitted, like the Scouring of the Shire and Tom Bombadil.
Speaker CCertain elements like the elves fighting at Helm's Deep were added and elements that Tolkien kept ambiguous were defined.
Speaker CThe Tolkien estate would be contacted by Jackson, Walsh and Boyans.
Speaker CHowever, the estate chose to distance themselves from Jackson's adaptations.
Speaker CThey had no creative control over Jackson's films and disagreed with many of his creative choices, particularly the emphasis on battle sequences and the alterations to character motivations and personalities.
Speaker CChristopher Tolkien in particular was concerned with preserving his father's literary legacy.
Speaker CHe viewed the books as serious works with deep philosophical and linguistic foundations rather than action adventure stories.
Speaker CIn a 2012 interview with Le Monde, he famously stated that the films eviscerated the books and turned them into action movies for young people.
Speaker CIn addition, he was uncomfortable with the merchandising and commercial aspects that accompanied the films and objected to the transformation of his father's work into commercial entertainment projects.
Speaker CNevertheless, Jackson was passionate about making films that were not only faithful to Tolkien's works, but that took advantage of everything available in the late 90s and early 2000s.
Speaker CI'm going to go into the visual effects in more detail in the episode on the Return of the King, but we're talking cutting edge CGI and motion capture scale miniatures, forced perspective as well as production design, creating multiple size sets.
Speaker CThis was truly an epic production of nothing that had ever been accomplished before and likely never will again to this scope and scale.
Speaker CJackson began storyboarding the trilogy with Christian Rivers in August 1997, effectively creating a rough black and white 2D version of the film.
Speaker CJackson showed excerpts of these animated storyboards to allow potential cast a view of the film's style.
Speaker CAnd casting started in earnest in 1999 and it was a global surge, prioritizing acting ability over star power.
Speaker CJackson wanted actors who could blend together rather than standout stars who might overshadow the story, with a strong focus on New Zealand and British actors for the roles.
Speaker CNow, of course, in a movie about the Lord of the Rings, casting Frodo would be Key the original idea was that all the hobbits would be played by Brits, based on Tolkien's version of the Shire as based on middle England.
Speaker COver 150 young British actors were auditioned, including Dominic Monaghan who would go on to play merry Scottish actor, Billy Boyd, who would be Pippin and Orlando Bloom who would be cast as Legolas.
Speaker CBut none of them were Frodo.
Speaker COnce American Elijah Wood sent in an audition tape of himself dressed as Frodo reading lines from the novel.
Speaker CThe British Hobbit rule was dropped.
Speaker CWood was the first to be announced to have joined the cast as Frodo.
Speaker CIn a Press release on 10 July 1999, Jackson would say that Frodo was a critical role and the actor needed to have a great depth of range.
Speaker CQuote While we looked at many good actors, it was clear from the moment that we met Elijah that we had found Frodo Baggins.
Speaker CHe has an enormous natural ability to draw an audience into a story and the dramatic depth to hold them there.
Speaker CJed Gyllenhaal famously unsuccessfully auditioned for the role of Frodo.
Speaker CSeveral well known actors were considered or approached for key roles.
Speaker CWith Russell Crowe approach to play Aragorn, he declined.
Speaker CDaniel Day Lewis reportedly turned down the role multiple times and Nicolas Cage was considered but chose not to pursue it.
Speaker CStuart Townsend was initially cast as Aragorn, but was deemed too young and replaced in three days by Viggo Mortensen.
Speaker CMortensen read the book on the plane over and received a crash course lesson in fencing from Bob Anderson and began filming the scenes on Weathertop straight away.
Speaker CAnd just in case I forget to mention, next episode, the dude broke two toes kicking a helmet for the Two towers.
Speaker CHe's not acting, he's really in genuine pain.
Speaker CHe also lost a tooth taking a sword to the face.
Speaker CViggo Mortensen is still hot by the way.
Speaker CJust in case you were wondering.
Speaker CSean Connery was offered the role of Gandalf but turned it down, reportedly because he didn't understand the script.
Speaker CHe also turned down potentially a $450 million payday from the cut of the profits he would have received.
Speaker CChristopher Plummer was approached for Gandalf but declined.
Speaker CPatrick Stewart was considered, but while filming the first X men movie in 1999, his friend and co star Ian McKellen was instead cast as Gandalf.
Speaker CMcKellen couldn't join the shoot at the beginning due to his commitments for X Men, so he joined in January 2000 and worked mostly with the Hobbit scale doubles Including Kieran Shaw, who doubled for Frodo.
Speaker CShah, who is 4 foot 2, would say that Peter Jackson's movies were, quote, the best job I ever did in my life.
Speaker CAnd this is a guy who's worked on multiple Star wars movies.
Speaker CKrull, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Titanic, Aliens, the Chronicles of Narnia, and Doctor who.
Speaker CShah has held the Guinness World Record as the shortest professional stuntman since 2003.
Speaker COn the opposite of that, Paul Randall, who's seven foot tall, doubled for Gandalf opposite Elijah Wood.
Speaker CA massive fan of the novel for decades, Christopher Lee had dreamed of playing Gandalf.
Speaker CBut by the time Jackson was casting for his movies, Lee was in his mid-70s and deemed himself too old.
Speaker CInstead, Jackson cast him as Saruman as it was a less physically demanding role.
Speaker CLee was the only member of the cast or crew who ever met Tolkien in person.
Speaker CWhile fan expectation was always going to be high for an adaptation of such a literary epic, the casting choice of Liv Tyler proved initially to be controversial.
Speaker COne of only two major female characters in the movies, until we get Aelwyn, Tyler's Arwen was beefed up considerably from the book version, bringing her out of Rivendell and helping Frodo escape the Black Riders.
Speaker CTyler also learned how to speak Elvish for the role, something that impressed Jackson immensely.
Speaker CSean Astin, new casting director Victoria Burrows, and his father, John Astin, had worked previously with Peter Jackson on the Frighteners.
Speaker CBut when his agent contacted Astin about the role of Samwise Gamgee, he admitted that despite graduating from UCLA with a double degree in history and American Literature and Culture with honours, Astin had to go to a bookshop to look up Tolkien.
Speaker CAs well as learning about the plot, Astin was tasked with nailing a British accent.
Speaker CIn a short space of time before the audition, which he agreed to do, his wife found a dialect coach to help him, and the dialect coach believed that Astin was getting the part.
Speaker CLike much of the cast and crew, Astin's wife and daughter were able to live with him in New Zealand while he filmed for the approximately 14 months or 438 days of continuous filming, with his daughter Alexandra, even cameoing in the Return of the King as Eleanor Gamgee, Sam's young daughter.
Speaker CThis was one of the longest continuous shoots in film history at that time.
Speaker CAll three films were shot simultaneously rather than sequentially, which was a revolutionary approach for such a massive project.
Speaker CAs the actors traveled to Wellington, their new home for the next couple of years, Jackson wanted his cast to bond before Filming began on 11th October 1999.
Speaker CThe principal actors trained for six weeks in Sword fighting with Bob Anderson, who once taught Errol Fling archery, riding and boating as well as in Tolkiense.
Speaker CIs that a thing?
Speaker CIt is now, basically, so they could pronounce his verses correctly and this fellowship became a real fellowship.
Speaker CWhen not filming, they learned to surf together.
Speaker CThey took trips to Thailand and Australia.
Speaker CThey went skiing, snowboarding, whitewater rafting and bungee jumping.
Speaker CThey played football on set with Sean Bean and Dominic Monaghan ribbing each other as their favorite teams clashed.
Speaker CAt the end of filming, the entire fellowship, save for John Rhys Davis got matching tattoos of the elvish symbol for nine.
Speaker CIn total, up to seven units filmed simultaneously in different locations across New Zealand with helicopters used to traverse the often difficult terrain.
Speaker CWhile Jackson oversaw the whole production unit, directors included Alan Bollinger, John Mahaffey, Jeff Murphy, Fran Walsh, Barry Osborne and Rick Porras were monitored by Jackson with live satellite feeds.
Speaker CFilming took place across more than 150 locations including the Tongariro National Park, Kapiti Coast, Upper Hut, Kaitoki Regional Park, Queenstown, Fernside, Fiordland national park and Southern Lakes.
Speaker CAnd the production employed over 2,400 crew members at its peak, with nearly 50,000 props created.
Speaker CThe first scene filmed was the wooded road sequence in the Fellowship of the Ring where the hobbits hide beneath a tree from a mounted Ringwraith, which pays homage to the same scene in Ralph Bakshi's 1978 animated version.
Speaker CSix day weeks of 14 to 15 hour days were commonplace.
Speaker C21 cameras and 4.5 million feet of film were used.
Speaker CThere were 350 different sets, some as large as city blocks.
Speaker C30 kilometers of road were built for the film and a total of 330 vehicles were used, including that one that had to be digitally removed from the film for the DVD release.
Speaker CIn this movie specifically, we meet the inhabitants of Hobbiton of the Shire.
Speaker CBased on the Warwickshire countryside Tolkien grew up in and around.
Speaker CIt's not classed as Warwickshire anymore.
Speaker CIt's now classed as West Midlands.
Speaker CI say this as a Warwickshire girlie.
Speaker CThe creation of Hobbiton for the Lord of the Rings was an extraordinary feat of production design that began years before filming did.
Speaker CThe team discovered the Alexander family sheet farm near Mata Mata in New Zealand in 1998.
Speaker CPeter Jackson chose it because the rolling hills and lake perfectly matched Tolkien's descriptions of the Shire.
Speaker CConstruction began in March 1999, nearly nine months before filming started.
Speaker CThe New Zealand army helped build an access road to the remote location.
Speaker CThe production planted flowers, vegetables and hedges, imported mature apple and plum trees and wired artificial leaves to them when shooting in winter.
Speaker C37 individual hobbit holes of 60%, 75% and 100% scale sizes were built along with the large party tree and mill.
Speaker CDesigner Alan Lee and production designer Grant Major ensured structures looked as if they'd been there for centuries by using natural local materials, incorporating existing landscape features, creating weathered, aged appearances and having gardeners establish real gardens that were actively growing.
Speaker CVegetables in the gardens were edible and harvested for use by the catering team during filming.
Speaker CThe original Hobbiton for the Lord of the Rings was largely temporary, though made of polystyrene and plywood facades.
Speaker CAfter filming of the Lord of the Rings, it was mostly dismantled, leaving only basic structures.
Speaker CIt was reconstructed permanently for the Hobbit trilogy years later with permanent materials, and this version remains today as a major tourist attraction with 44 permanent hobbit holes.
Speaker CI have been to Hobbiton and it is as magical as you would expect it to be.
Speaker CThe costume designed for the Lord of the Rings trilogy was led by designer Angela Dixon, who won an Academy Award for her work, and it was an enormous undertaking.
Speaker CDixon and 40 seamstresses worked on over 19,000 costumes for the films.
Speaker CDue to the large shooting schedule, 10 versions of each costume were made per character, with 30 more of the stunt scale and other doubles all in all, meaning that each design had 40 versions.
Speaker CJackson had a requirement of realism, so the costumers went to great lengths to make costumes looked lived in, wearing away color, stuffing pockets and dirtying them.
Speaker CEach race had their own cultural identity in Middle Earth, and this was also expressed with clothing and armor.
Speaker CThe Hobbit clothes were inspired by English, rural and Victorian country styles, with earthy natural fabrics, warm colors and simple practical designs reflecting their lifestyle.
Speaker CEven Hobbit class was shown in the clothing.
Speaker CFrodo being wealthier than Sam meant Frodo had slightly finer fabrics.
Speaker CThe Elves had art Nouveau and art Deco influences with flowing, elegant fabrics in silvers, pale blues and sage greens.
Speaker CDetails were hand embroidered with nature inspired patterns.
Speaker CThe Rohirrim had Nordic and Anglo Saxon influences, with horse motifs integrated throughout in rich greens, golds and earthy tones.
Speaker CGondor had Byzantine and Medieval European influences.
Speaker CBlack, silver and white colour palette, with the white tree of Gondor as a recurring motif.
Speaker CThe Orcs and Uruk Hai clothing was made to look asymmetrical, as if it was made by actual Orcs with industrial crude leather and metalwork.
Speaker CThe clothing also incorporated bone, teeth and scavenged materials, suggesting they scavenged their kills.
Speaker COver 2000 suits of armor were created, again with each culture having distinct armor styles requiring different techniques.
Speaker CUrethane plastic was used for armor pieces, along with leather reinforced with resin and lightweight aluminium.
Speaker CWeta Workshop developed slush molding techniques to produce armor pieces efficiently.
Speaker CHero pieces, which were the close up armor, were crafted with more detail than background pieces.
Speaker CEach piece was artificially aged to look worn and authentic by paint washes, sandblasting and chemical weathering.
Speaker CThe attention to detail in the costuming helped create a believable lived in world where each culture had a distinct visual identity while functioning practically for the actors during extensive action sequences and long shooting days.
Speaker CAnd there really is no easy way to segue into it.
Speaker CBut this is the point where I'm going to segue into the obligatory Keanu reference of this episode, which is basically a part of the podcast where I try and link Keanu Reeves to pretty much every movie that I feature for no reason other than he is Keanu Reeves and he is the best of men and unfortunately he has nothing to do with the Lord of the Rings at all.
Speaker CHowever, the easiest way to link him to this movie is to say that Keanu starred in the Matrix with Hugo Weaving.
Speaker CHugo Weaving played Agent Smith in that movie and he plays Elrond in the Fellowship of the Ring.
Speaker CI don't know what I'm gonna do with the other two movies.
Speaker CI guess we will wait and see what I manage to get out of the bag for those two.
Speaker CBut as I mentioned earlier, I want to talk about the music and the incredible score, specifically in the episode on the Return of the King and that's something very different.
Speaker CI usually do talk about individual aspects of the movie, but because this is across the series, I want to focus on it in one episode.
Speaker CObviously this movie did have a song by Enya called Let It Be, which would end up becoming award nominated.
Speaker CBut considering the incredible task to actually get the Lord of the Rings made, the next task was going to be how do we get people who don't necessarily know Tolkien's work to come and see this movie and the two movies that are going to follow.
Speaker CThe website for the Fellowship of the Ring and the Lord of the Rings in general debuted two years before the Fellowship of the Ring was released and it contained regular production diaries and behind the scenes content to keep fans engaged and became a hub for exclusive content.
Speaker CThe production new authenticity to the books would please the fandom, but getting everyday cinemagoers involved was something completely different the first featurette trailer was released in April 2000 and was downloaded over 1.7 million times in its first 24 hours, breaking Star Wars Episode 1, the Phantom Menace's record.
Speaker CAnd this feature at trailer is cited as drawing in the general audiences because it tended to focus on the emotional journey of the characters and so you didn't need to be a Tolkien fan or a Tolkien scholar to enjoy this movie and not to mention this movie involving a love story and some battle sequences which would in turn create entry points for viewers unfamiliar with the books.
Speaker CThe world premiere of the Lord of the Rings, the Fellowship of the Ring occurred at Leicester Square in London on 10 December 2001.
Speaker CIt was released wide on 19 December 2001, which was a Wednesday, meaning that its first official week of release in the US had it at number three because it had technically only been out for two days at that point.
Speaker COf course, it went to number one in its second week and stayed there for four weeks, only dropping to fourth in its sixth week behind Black Hawk Down, Snow Dogs and A Beautiful Mind.
Speaker CThe Fellowship of the Ring remained in the US top 10 for eight weeks on a production budget of $93 million.
Speaker CThe Fellowship of the Ring grossed $313.4 million domestically in the US and $555 million internationally for a total worldwide gross of $868.4 million, making it the second highest grossing film of 2001 and the fifth highest grossing film of all time at the time of its release.
Speaker CSo they really didn't need to worry about non fans of Tolkien enjoying this movie.
Speaker CNor did they need to worry about critics either because the Lord of the Rings, the Fellowship of currently still holds an approval rating of 92% of rotten tomatoes, with a consensus reading full of eye popping special effects and featuring a pitch perfect cast.
Speaker CThe Lord of the Rings the Fellowship of The Ring brings J.R.R.
Speaker Ctolkien's classic to vivid life.
Speaker CThe Fellowship of The Ring received 13 Academy Award nominations for Best Picture, Best Director, Best Supporting actor for Ian McKellen, best adapted screenplay, Best Art Direction, Best Cinematography, Best Costume Design, Best Film Editing, Best Makeup, Best Original Score, Best Original Song for Enya's May It Be Best Sound and Best Visual Effects, winning in four categories Best Cinematography, Best Makeup, Best Original Score and Best Visual Effects.
Speaker CIt also earned 13 nominations at the 55th BAFTA Awards for Best Film, Best Director, Best Actor in a Leading role for Ian McKellen, best screenplay adapted Best Cinematography, Best Costume Design, Best Editing, Best Film Music, Best Makeup and Hair, Best Production Design, Best Sound and Best Visual Effects, leading to wins in the categories for Best Film, Best Director, Best Makeup and Hair, Best Visual Effects, and also taking the Orange Film of the Year award.
Speaker CHoward Shaw's score also won a Grammy and May Be by Enya received a Grammy nomination of a total of 800 award nominations.
Speaker CThe Fellowship of the Ring won 475 awards.
Speaker CLike all of the Lord of the Rings movies, there is an extended version with 30 minutes of new material, 19 minutes of the Lord of the Rings fan club credits for those who contributed financially in exchange for a credit, four commentaries and three hours of bonus material.
Speaker CThe theatrical version is 178 minutes, the extended version is 228 minutes on the VHS or DVD, or 238 minutes if you have the extended Blu Ray.
Speaker CIn 2007, the American film Institute named it one of the hundred greatest American films in history, being both the most recent film and the only film released in the 21st century to make it into the list.
Speaker CIn 2021, the film was selected for preservation in the United States National Film Registry by the Library of Congress for being culturally, historically or aesthetically significant.
Speaker CAnd as this is the first part of a three part story, I'm going to stop it here with the hope that you will return next time.
Speaker CBecause as of the end of this movie, the Fellowship is broken, Boronier is dead, Frodo and Sam are venturing off alone to Mordor with Merry and Pippin captured.
Speaker CBut not all hope is lost.
Speaker CNext week the story continues with the Tin Towers and even more History and Legacy of the Lord of the Rings.
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Speaker EWhat it is you saw, for it is also in my mind.
Speaker EIt is what will come to pass if you should fail.
Speaker EThe Fellowship is breaking.
Speaker EIt has already begun.
Speaker EHe will try to take the the Ring.
Speaker EYou know of whom I speak.
Speaker EOne by one, it will destroy them all.
Speaker DIf you ask it of me, I will give you the One Ring.
Speaker EYou offer it to me freely.
Speaker EI do not deny that my heart has greatly desired this.
Speaker EIn place of a Dark Lord, you would have a queen.
Speaker ENot dark but beautiful and terrible.
Speaker AAfterborn.
Speaker ATreacherous as the sea.
Speaker AStronger than the foundation of fear.
Speaker AOh, shall love me and despair.
Speaker EI pass the test.
Speaker EI will diminish and go into the west and remain Galadriel.
Speaker DI cannot do this alone.
Speaker EYou are a ring bearer, Frodo.
Speaker ETo bear a Ring of power is to be alone.
Speaker EThis is Nen, the Ring of Adamant, and and I am its keeper.
Speaker EThis task was appointed to you.
Speaker EAnd if you do not find a way, no one will.
Speaker DThen I know what I must do.
Speaker DIt's just I'm afraid to do it.
Speaker DIt.
Speaker EEven the smallest person can change the course of the future.
Speaker CBye.
Speaker CIt.