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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Hi and welcome to the Uworld order showcase. Podcast I'm your host, Jill Hart. And with us today is Dee Dee

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Jordan. She is your certified alcohol, free life coach here to guide you on a transformational journey back home to who you truly are as a certified mindset success and embodiment and transformation coach. She's passionate about supporting you, to discover and step into your full potential without the distractions of social drinking and hangovers holding you back.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And she's also the host of the podcast. Sober chapters. Welcome to the show, Didi. It's really great to have you here with us.

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Didi: Thank you, Jill. Thanks for having me. It's great to be here.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So. We were talking a little bit about

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: sobriety, and I told you I have some things to share with you, too, because I've been really looking forward to having this conversation. I think what's going on around sobriety in general is really exciting. And it's it's helping the whole world.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: just kind of raise the global frequency. I,

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: how do you feel about that?

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Didi: Yes, that is a great way to put it. It is a really really exciting time to be

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Didi: to be sober, curious, or to be dabbling into the world of sobriety because there is a huge shift, a huge movement.

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Didi: I don't think there's any coincidence that it's in line with, you know a huge shift in consciousness in general, and I think a lot of people are waking up to just the incredibly powerful benefits of living an alcohol, free life, and as I've shared with you before we came on here, it's for me that the driving force behind it really was

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Didi: wanting to connect more and more deeply with my spirituality and with my true self. And I have a whole journey. I'm sure bits will come up during this podcast but yeah, it is. There's a huge link there. I see it a lot where people are going through.

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Didi: you know. Perhaps some kind of spiritual awakening getting spiritually curious, and it always seems to lead them down a path of sober curiosity as well. And yeah, it's a beautiful thing.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I think it's a very beautiful thing, and I love what you're doing in terms of chapters, because

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: the idea of you know going along, and we're we're really trained. That alcohol is perfectly normal. You you can't wait to turn 21 so you can drink in this country. I don't know what it's like in Australia. I think it's like 17 or 18.

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Didi: 18, yeah, 18.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Which is I? You know. I used to think that 18 was. It was 18 in Hawaii when I turned 18, and

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: it it wasn't really

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: didn't do me any favors by allowing me to drink publicly. I mean it just the whole

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: culture around alcohol and excusing the bad behavior that alcohol generally produces in people.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: This is not like, I really.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: from this viewpoint, it's like, I don't really understand how that ever got to be a thing. It was just like.

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Didi: I know right? And I think

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Didi: the more that you step away from it. And you look back, it's like, Oh, wow! Okay, that that was that was pretty wild, you know, like I was, I was very much to give you a bit of a background. I was very much like a party girl I actually am. I'm English. I live in Australia, but I was born in the Uk. And

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Didi: born into like a pretty boozy family, but, like, you know, didn't really seem to be a real concern. But I look back now. And I think, Wow, yeah, like I was. You know, I was drinking in my early teenage years a lot because it was just socially acceptable. It's what all my friends did. It seemed the norm right and.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Anthony.

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Didi: I'm the youngest of 4 sisters, and they're all quite older than me, and I think that I saw alcohol as this way of like fitting in in the family, and it was really exciting, and like I loved it. And I took on the role of the party girl really well, like I was a I was a good big drinker, if that makes sense, which I now know wasn't so great because.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Anyway.

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Didi: A lot. I drank a lot, and I didn't think it presented

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Didi: too much of a problem. But I look back now, and I'm like. Wow! It was.

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Didi: It was keeping me stuck in patterns that I didn't even consciously know about

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Didi: at all. And you know, I always say I feel like I was kind of asleep all the way through my teens and my twenties, with the knowledge that I have now. And look, I wouldn't change a thing, because I think, as as we all say, we're all on our own unique journeys, aren't we? And I say that with sobriety, too, and thank you for recognizing the chapter thing, because the whole concept of the chapter is that it is that softer approach to sobriety. You know there's a lot of people out there

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Didi: that aren't necessarily struggling with a serious alcohol use disorder, but they also know that alcohol is holding them back and preventing them from reaching their full potential, but they don't want to give up forever.

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Didi: And that's where the chapter comes in. It's like, Well, why don't you try a chapter? Remove it from your life for a certain period of time, and create that space, to really go in and discover who you truly are without it. What truly lights your soul up.

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Didi: And that's where the real work and the real transformation

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Didi: begins. And that's what I've seen over and over in my clients. And it. And as I said earlier, it's a beautiful thing, and it really brings people back to this really empowered place of knowing who they really are, what they truly want unpacking all of this conditioning and patterns that they've potentially been stuck in because it gives you that opportunity to step back and see what's been going on it like lifts the veil. Essentially.

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Didi: So. Yeah, I went on, a, but I'm passionate about it.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I'm with you. It's such a big deal. And it used to be a commercial on television. Many years ago. It might have been in like the eighties, I think, where they were talking about smoking, and they were trying to get people to quit smoking, and it was a little cartoon character. He would fall, go up the mountain, and

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: it was all about stopping smoking, so he'd go up the mountain, and then he'd slide back down, because, you know he was weak and terrible, and and the commercial. The point of the commercial was, you didn't start in one day, and you don't have to stop in one day. You're gonna

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: there's gonna be fits and starts usually with people. And just being sober. Curious is enough.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: you know. Just embrace it for a couple days. Maybe it's 3 days.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Maybe it's only one day, and one day is enough

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: for you. It doesn't have to be all or nothing.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: you know we, we're moving into a a world where you can try stuff.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: You don't have to be fully committed to. Okay, this is it. For the rest of my life.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It can be this, is it for today.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: This is the decision I'm making for today, and then tomorrow celebrate that. You made it all day.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: That was that was something. And then, the next time you try it, maybe it's 2 days and

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: celebrate it. You made it 2 days, and then, you know, as you go on it.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It may or may not. And you know, maybe, that it's for some people it doesn't really

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: bother them, or they don't really want that experience right now.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: That's fine.

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Didi: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Because I think I do believe that when you get the nudge.

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Didi: or you know the souls whisper, or whatever it might be in terms of that curiosity around sobriety. I have seen it over and over again. Where it is it is leading to there's there's like a higher reason for it. You know it's like your higher self is nudging you that way

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Didi: for a reason, and if you don't have it like that's absolutely fine, you know, and I always say again, like with it being a software approach, like so many of my friends, still drink, my family still drink like I am fortunate that I still enjoy being around it to a degree. Obviously

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Didi: but I think that yeah, it's it's if you don't have. If it isn't presenting problems, and you don't have that nudge. Well, then, each their own. But I think that when you know, like, you know, deep down, you know, deep down when it's holding you back, you know, deep down when it's no longer serving you, and you know again to touch on my own situation. I

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Didi: things changed in my life when I reached my early thirties, and the path that I was on, which I thought was kind of like my forever path, and I had like a really serious relationship and had a great career. And I'd moved to Australia and was meant to be living the Australian dream. And I was 32, and everything fell apart within 6 months of being here. So my partner left

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Didi: the career that had brought me out here. The company they pulled out of Australia, and the rug had been pulled from underneath me, and I now know, you know, it was essentially my rock bottom, and also the making of me. I've realized that now, but at the time I felt

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Didi: horrific. And what actually happened was that when I drank alcohol the next day my hangovers were just so terrible. They I would beat myself up. I had all this fear, like fear of aging fear of being single, fear of starting again, and like the alcohol, even just a few wines would exacerbate those feelings of feeling behind. And like, I say, feeling so full of fear, and I now know it was all fueling

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Didi: those fear based patterns, my ego, all of that, and taking me away from my soul essentially. And that's when I then went on, my kind of like,

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Didi: yeah, like personal and spiritual transformation happened from that low place which you know, as we know, is kind of the way it works right. And now I'm really grateful for all of it. But that that's the thing. I think if you know that alcohol and hangovers are having a detrimental effect on you. Then yeah, explore it. Explore life without it, because when you listen to that now.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Anxiety. Yeah, anxiety is huge in society right now, and a lot of that is driven by

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: low magnesium, and

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: which comes from alcohol. You know it sucks the magnesium out of your body, and you you

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: you start having heart palpitations and panic attacks and all kinds of really odd things that

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: you wouldn't normally think. Well, it's just

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: because I'm drinking so much alcohol. But it is really because you're drinking alcohol at all. It's a poison. It's poisoning you.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Okay.

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Didi: It's huge. And also so okay, so I didn't give up for

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Didi: necessarily health reasons at the time. I now know. Really it was linked to mental health, right? But what I have learned since from doing what I've done over the last couple of years is the like. The gigantic impact that it has within our brain. And and all of the reasons why that anxiety is is happening. So one drink alone.

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Didi: You'll have one drink and it will increase. You know, those beautiful euphoric kind of like relaxing hormones, I suppose you know, like the I guess, like the the increase in dopamine and just that, gaba. And just that's what that euphoria is when people have that 1st drink.

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Didi: but because your brain is always working so hard to regulate the brain hormones like it has to work really hard on any given day, let alone when you start throwing alcohol in the mix. So if you do that, and you increase those

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Didi: relaxing hormones. It spikes an artificial surge of all of the stress hormones to counteract that, and trying to try and balance that within your brain. So you know, cortisol and dynorphin, and, you know, glutamate those horrible nasty ones that that's what you then, when the gaba slows down and you're left with this artificial surge. That's where people wake up with what I call anxiety in the middle of the night, you know, especially depending on how many of those drinks you've had.

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Didi: and you've just got this rush of stress hormones, you know, all through your body, so that also it's interesting. What you said about the magnesium. I'll definitely look into that because I knew that magnesium was really important for us. But there's also that added thing of what it's doing to our brain chemicals as well. So yeah, it's huge. It's really huge.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Hi, when I

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: finally just embrace sobriety, I don't even consider it, you know, giving up anything. I just embraced something different. It's a different lifestyle that I've chosen for myself, and you know I still have people in my family who consume alcohol and

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: it's kind of nice

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: one of my sons. He is. He's having a sober January, and my husband, in solidarity decided that he was going to to. My husband is kind of.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: We used to tease him about. He was gonna get really hammered and have 2. Zema's because zemas and it's a

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: a beer like drink that I don't even think it was 3, 2 alcohol. The man really doesn't drink all that much.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Okay, I'm gonna do it. But you know, he's been retired, and and he he's been having problems sleeping, and it's like, you know, you might just try not

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: drinking alcohol. You might find that it's like.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And it does it.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It really does show up quickly, and your ability to sleep better, just not consuming alcohol.

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Didi: Absolutely. I mean, that's just yeah, one of the the many, many benefits

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Didi: it. And it just has such a knock on effect then, and it just seeps into every area of your life, you know. Like for me. Now, gosh! What am I? 2 and a half years? Alcohol free? I never intended to do that long, but it did just get too good. And and now the thought of a hangover does give me the shutters to be honest.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah. The the thought of not being able to sleep all night really? Well, that is just like it's it's a no brainer for me. I was like, I I'm I'm tired of being tired all the time.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and I knew that if I just didn't drink cause I I gone.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I'd gone 30 days or 40 days, and then I just, you know, slide back into old patterns. But you really need to change some of your habits around the times when you're drinking, I think helps people when they're

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: trying to embrace sobriety so that they're not so tempted to

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: fall back into those patterns. And that's really a lot of what drinking is. It's just having.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: This is the time when we normally have a glass of wine or 4 or 5,

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: you know, before you try to go to sleep for the night. And and yeah, you'll fall asleep. It's really just passing out. You're becoming unconscious, and then you're gonna wake up because all those other hormones are gonna kick in. And

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and then it's then the real fun begins. It's like, I Yeah.

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Didi: And gosh! As you're talking. I'm thinking of so many things that I could.

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Didi: you know, share about it, and and to share in terms of being able to navigate those I guess rituals, as I suppose you could call them, that people fall into, but I think

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Didi: I think the biggest thing is

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Didi: being able to really sit with and connect with yourself

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Didi: on a deep level. And you know, really having those mindfulness, tools and practices.

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Didi: and when you tap into those and you become comfortable doing that, it's

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Didi: everything, and it. It makes it really easy in the end to be able to not choose to have that drink, and to have, maybe, like an alcohol free alternative, or go for a walk or plan some other rituals that don't involve drinking. And yes, it takes a bit of courage, and it takes stepping outside your comfort zone, but the rewards are immeasurable, and when you kind of get into the flow of doing that, like

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Didi: the way that the world open up opens up to you, and, like the other kind of like aligned opportunities and the different types of people that you attract in, because, like, even if you talk about it from like a manifestation point of view, like alcohol lowers our vibration.

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Didi: You know, that's a scientific fact that it lowers our vibration, you know, on a cellular level, and you know, when you remove it like, you are just operating at such a higher frequency, and with that comes in much more kind of like, I say, aligned opportunities, aligned connections, and I think when you give yourself that taste, and you break through those

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Didi: I don't think you can unfeel that. I don't think you can unsee that, and I think that's where that super sober curiosity link goes in, and I was sober, curious for years. It took me a very long time of taking breaks to finally say goodbye to it, because our ego doesn't want to give it up. You know it doesn't want to stay doing the same thing, you know, over and over again.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's tied to so many different points in our lives that it's it's like, I don't

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I? I, too, grew up in a family that, you know. They they drank a lot.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: They weren't. They weren't sloppy drunks, but they got drunk every night, I mean.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: it was just that that was normal the 1st time I went to a party, and no one was drinking.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: because it was so odd to me. I went to a Thanksgiving dinner at somebody's house who was

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: They were Christians, and they they just didn't drink. And I I was just like

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I had never experienced. I was 35.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: that's how it was for me. I just like there was always alcohol around. And so I didn't really have any, even any role models that were like

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Didi: well, yeah, it's huge, isn't it? It's huge conditioning, like you say, from like a really really young age. And the normal.

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Didi: So you kind of just roll with it until

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Didi: until you start to question things a little bit differently, I guess, and like I said right at the beginning, I think there is just so much awareness around it now, and a real movement, and you know a huge amount is going on. I think I saw something this morning to do with America, where they're trying to pop on the warning labels. Now, the health labels onto the drinks. They've actually just passed that law in Ireland already.

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Didi: I think it's by the end of 2026. All all drinks are will compulsory. It's compulsory that they'll have the health warning labels around breast cancer and various other. You know, facts around. Actually, the statistics of of alcohol.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Wish they would do that with soda pop, too, though, because I mean all of these.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I guess that's why, when I when I just decided to embrace sobriety, it was like, there are so many other healthy alternatives, and I like water. We pay for a good filtration system, and we have really good water at our house.

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Didi: like a really nice fancy glass wherever you go. And my thing was, I always wanted to kind of like fit in and have like that drink still in my hand, and I didn't throw myself into socializing from the beginning, I think because I'd already taken a few breaks. So it was kind of like, right. I'm just going to do this and what I did because I didn't want to have loads of sugar and loads of those mocktails. I started asking for a sparkling water in a wine glass with ice and lemon.

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Didi: and I do that everywhere, literally, everywhere I go, because they're always going to have it. I genuinely now. I believe I have completely rewired my neural pathways to the point where, taking a sip of that in the wine glass almost feels like it used to when I'd have those like after work drinks, or whatever, and that might sound crazy to people. But I promise you, because.

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Didi: It is. Well, of course, because you would know. Yeah, of course. And it's it's that's why I say it's short term pain, long term game, because people don't realize that time will ever come. You know, they think they're always going to miss out on that

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And you get to the point. I I don't know. Maybe it's because we both

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: We're sober, curious, and we we did it a few times like I gave up drinking. I was pregnant 5 times, so there are 5 years of my life I didn't drink, but I was.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: but I always went back, and I would quit for a month or 2, and then I'd go back. But then I had this experience with the Hawk on the day that I decided was going to be the day that I wasn't, I was going to embrace sobriety. That was the day, September 7, th

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: 2023. So I'm outside fiddling with the water next to my house underneath this overhang.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: builder nests and stuff. So I reach up and I brush them away. And I hit something really solid. And I'm I'm like.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I'm really confused. At this point I stand up, and I turn around, and my husband's pointing at this hawk

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: sitting on the fence line, he said it was messing with your hair.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Hawks have really sharp talons, and to be that close to the house and underneath something.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and not scratch my head. But he let me know he was there. There was no other reason for him to be there other than to send me the message that this is it.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: You got it, and I have never wanted.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I've never felt the desire to have another alcoholic drink after that.

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Didi: That's so interesting. Yeah.

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Didi: I love that symbolism for you. And I do believe, yeah, like, I said earlier, like it, there's a link right? And it happened over and over again in you know. I see it in my clients. I've had it in my own journey and my.

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Didi: my spiritual journey has just advanced so so much since I gave it up, because I was actually guided to remove alcohol so kind of similar sort of thing. But what was happening was every time I took a break kind of in my, I guess, like around that time that I mentioned where I was like I had a bit of a rock bottom, and I was like really digging deep. I was feeling deeply unhappy. I was starting to, I actually went to a Tony Robbins event in 2018.

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Didi: And I did this walking challenge with work not long after that, and I was listening to Gabby Bernstein. The universe has your back. And really starting to realize this other way of thinking and choosing to see things through the lens of love rather than the lens of fear and feeling really good, and I was taking breaks from alcohol at the same time, and I started seeing the number typical, but the number 69 right

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Didi: so prevalent in my life, and I was seeing it everywhere, like every time I took a break. I noticed that when I went back to drinking it wasn't happening, and it was always happening much more, and I felt much more connected when I was taking the break, and a few things happened. I've got so many stories that would take a long time, but but one particular one was with the 69 thing like you can say, Oh, well, you just. It's a coincidence, you know, because I was seeing it on like number plates, and I was seeing it on

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Didi: I'm actually writing a book at the moment about it, and it's just been like one spiritual confirmation after another after another, and I've now deepened my connection. I'm not religious, but I have deepened my connection to God. And it's just been this, like beautiful, beautiful journey. And yeah, I can see you nodding. I'm sure you resonate with so.

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Didi: And the mask right the mask, like we hide behind the masks. And another big part of my message is that alcohol fuels the ego, like alcohol fuels our false self, and sobriety aligns us with who we truly are, and our higher self, and it keeps us

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Didi: in our heart more in that love based state. And yes, fear comes in with humans. Ego mind still goes wild, but we have so much more awareness when we are alcohol free to be able to go right. No, that's the ego. That's not the truth. That's our false self, that's fear. Let's bring ourselves back to you know our hearts back to love, and and having that awareness is the power, right and.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and we learn all these tools, you know breathing and tapping and you know just

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It. It comes to you really quickly, when you know, because we do all become afraid from time to time, or we're anxious, or we're worried about stuff, but it's just the clarity of knowing. Oh, hey! You know, if I spend 5 min going like this as silly as it sounds, I'm going to feel better, or if I, you know, do box breathing, for, you know, 3 or 4 min I'm gonna fall asleep because it just works like that.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: as well as to other people. It's just such a gift. And when you, when you start sharing about it like I shared on social media that I made it 480. I think it was 83 days or something like that. I was just doing the math because I'd seen other people sharing about it.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and I started my journey on a specific day, and I termed it to myself as embracing sobriety rather than giving up alcohol, and I still term it that way because it feels like I'm moving towards something instead of denying.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So I started it, and then a friend of mine on my the anniversary, I posted about it, and a friend of mine

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: just take a break. She was going to embrace sobriety for a little while, and she's on 117 days now, which was just like

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: it feels so good when you realize that when you share about it, not only does it allow other people to help kind of, you know, encourage you, and you need to let other people encourage you. And some of the things that you're doing that are really spectacular things.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It also helps them because it kind of gives them permission to be.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: you know. Well, they did it.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: They're not a lot different than me. Maybe I can try it.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and you know whether whether they go all in and it it lasts for a really long time for them, or it just is, you know, a few days.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's it's just the the exercise in in sharing and having that

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Didi: Yeah, yeah, that's gorgeous and congratulations on your 400. And I can't remember the specifics. But that's a.

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Didi: And and great for you, for sharing it and and feeling that way about. Yeah, exactly that. The ripple effect. The ripple effect is huge. It's huge, it is. It's a it's a whole whole. It is helping to, you know, raise consciousness for sure, like raise vibration like absolutely. And people are calling on to it. And

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Didi: yeah, sharing it. I mean, that's been like for me. That's been a whole journey in my in itself, for me, because I actually used to be. I have faced so many fears since giving up, and I've had the courage to keep

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Didi: just over a year ago, I went on my 1st podcast. And afterwards I was having to lie in bed in the fetal position. My nervous system was absolutely shot, and then, only a few months later, I had my own podcast and you know my fears of being seen and showing up on social media and public speaking, and all of that. I was petrified of all of that, because unknowingly, I've been using alcohol to mask insecurities and mask

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Didi: confidence. And it's like, when I was a little girl I actually used to do a lot of public speaking and poetry reciting and things like that. And then I lost that true confidence.

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Didi: found this kind of like false confidence. And then I've like, now almost come back again. This is like what I say, like people come back to who they were when they were little. So, and it has been so rewarding to share it, because, like what you felt with your friend, like, you know, when you when you know you've had that impact and people have resonated, and then they go on to reap the benefits of it. It's it's yeah. It's so rewarding. And

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Didi: shift that mindset for people, you know, because there is still a bit of a stigma out there that you know. I think there's even a a bit of a belief, isn't there? My my dad used to say. I don't trust people that don't drink.

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Didi: It's it's ridiculous then. But actually, now it's become this power move, and people are being really empowered by it. And and that is just fantastic. Yeah.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I think it's so fantastic, too. It's just. And it's not like, you know, the old days when people were stopping smoking, and they would

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: they were! They were kind of nasty with each other about it, you know, if you're the circles that you were in, those people were still smoking it.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Smoking is kind of worse in that it smells bad, and when you quit smoking, really notice how bad it smells, and how much effect it can have on you, but

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: alcohol is just like I don't care if you drink. I I have alcohol in the house.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I you know my husband. He does. He didn't.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: He didn't embrace sobriety with me, and and I didn't ask him to.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: you know. Sometimes he chooses not to drink for a while, so that he sleeps better. But you know it's it's between them and their conscience. It's not my job to tell people what they're supposed to do, and I think, being sober has allowed me the ability to be able to just let people be.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And they could be them, and I can still love them. It doesn't matter.

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Didi: That's beautiful. And that's a really important point that you just brought up there, because I see it with my clients a lot of the time when their partners still drink.

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Didi: and they, you know, sometimes that can be a challenge. But what you just said then is is absolutely the best way to go about it, because everyone's on their own journey with it, right? And all you can do is, you know, send love to those people for where they're at, and more often than not I see it where the partner sees the benefits and then really wants they get curious in themselves.

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Didi: but the person that's removing it has to do that on their own path, without any expectation or attachment to what their partner is. Gonna do. And you know, hold that loosely, and then you know a lot of the time they do follow suit. But you know it doesn't matter. If not, you're you're doing it for you right. You're doing it for your own.

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Didi: your own conscience, like you said your own path. So that's really cool. Yeah, that's really good.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I I love that. And you were talking about the 69, and I know that you have 69 tips, tricks and resources.

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Didi: Yeah, it's a big part of my story. That that number 69, although I've since learned it's it's a lot about like the and then Yang, and the masculine and feminine, and things like that as well as just the other type of meaning which. But yeah, I have.

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Didi: And and yeah, I do. I have the tips and tricks and resources for anyone that is curious, and wants to sort of dabble in the the world of sobriety. So it's a free guide. That's also I think it's linked to my Instagram, which is sober underscore chapters. And then it's on my on my website as well. Yeah.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And your website, soberchapters.com. And you have a community. That's how you mainly do. Your coaching is through the community. So let's talk about that for just a minute.

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Didi: Yeah, thank you. So I have it all kind of started with Instagram. So I have a beautiful community on there that links through. And I offer I do the one on one coaching, which is kind of like personalized to wherever people are at

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Didi: with their journey, and then I also have a group coaching program which is really beautiful. And it's called sober chapters 100, and we all get together every week. It runs over like 14 weeks. But it's not just about being alcohol free or going alcohol free. A lot of people are at different stages. Some people have been alcohol free for a long time. But it's actually kind of like a coaching program that complements.

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Didi: So there's a kind of whole range of modules in there around, kind of the mind, body, heart and soul, incorporating all the different. You know, modalities that I'm trained in. So a lot of like embodiment practices. Even, you know, manifestation and spiritual type work in there as well. And it's it's just a really beautiful container that I run throughout the year. We're just starting one actually, on the 12th of Jan. So that'll run for a hundred days. And then.

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Didi: yeah, the community is just growing. I have so many ideas for what I want to do. There's retreats and things like that that are in the in the running as well. So watch this space.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Something on your site for beliefs.

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Didi: For Ibiza.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I need that. Okay.

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Didi: Oh, my goodness! So like the backstory is that I spent my 40th birthday in Ibiza alcohol free, which is a notorious party island, but it's actually got a really beautiful spiritual side that not many people know about so much. And

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Didi: you know I wanted to go. It was actually my 40th birthday was meant to be the end of my sober chapter. I had said I was going to give up until I was 40, but I actually decided to stay alcohol free because it had gotten so good. But I went there to mark that anniversary and just had the most beautiful time. And when I was there I got a lot of signs and a lot of guidance. I actually even went to a nightclub one night, and a girl came from out of nowhere over to me, and said, Oh, my goodness.

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Didi: it's you from sober chapters, and I was like what you know. I don't have a crazy following. I have a few 1,000, you know, but I was there from Australia for one weekend, and this girl was from London.

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Didi: and she said, she's seen my content. She was going to do a sober chapter for a year, and I was so emotional because I was like this is literally God's confirmation that I am living in my purpose. This is my calling, and it's happened on the last weekend of my chapter. So of course I'm not going to go back, you know. But with that I then felt this really strong connection to Ibiza, and I want people to be able to experience

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Didi: the highs of those kind of places, but from like a natural point of view, and feel like the magic of the island, be amongst like minded souls. And so we've just got a wait list up for when the next one's going to be like, I'm hoping it will be this year now. But yeah, that's all. All the info about everything that I offer is on the website. Yeah.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: you. Just you get these confirmations. When you're sober you can see them. I think the universe is always sending us messages, but we

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: we muddle our minds and we miss them. And this is like.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I I wish I'd started sooner.

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Didi: I know right.

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Didi: I know, I know, and I always have to say to myself, no, you're on your own unique, divine timing, you know, and I wouldn't have all this wisdom and all of these experiences of the wilder days and.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And you're not as relatable if you've, you know.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: if you've always been sober, if you were sober because you had to be, or everybody has a different story for how they got to where they're at. And your story is.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: it's uniquely yours. And and it's a message for a certain group of people, and I'm so glad that you came here and shared it with me because I really have enjoyed chatting with you.

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Didi: I have, too. I'm so grateful that I, you know, even just finding you that day the way I did like I I just. And when you said you were sober as well, I thought, well, yeah, that's just another another confirmation. Right? It's been beautiful chatting with you, Jill. Thank you very much.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So what's the one thing you hope the audience takes away from this conversation today?

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Didi: to have that confidence, to dabble and trial and lean into whatever curiosity or whatever nudge that they're feeling.

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Didi: And you know, as you said, there's no pressure. It doesn't have to be, for like any specific amount of time, but just to give themselves that gift of trialing it. And yeah, to just really spark, spark, that curiosity

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Didi: in people and for people to just just go for it. Yeah. And you know, just see, see what happens, because it really does and can lead to beautiful things.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I love that. Thank you for joining me today.

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Didi: Thank you.