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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: What if the secret to your next breakthrough wasn't doing more, but slowing down? In a world that glorifies hustle, the most radical act of self-leadership might be just pressing the pause button.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: This conversation reveals why stillness is not weakness, but the doorway to clarity, alignment, and true success.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Hi, and welcome to the UWorld Order Showcase Podcast, where we feature life, health, transformational coaches, and spiritual entrepreneurs stepping up to be the change they seek in the world. I'm your host, Jill Hart, the Coach's Alchemist, on a mission to help coaches and entrepreneurs amplify their voice, monetize their mission, and get visible, leveraging podcasts and Substack.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Today, we are chatting with Tanya Davies. Tanya, known as the Conscious Change Agent, is a clinical hypnotherapist, psychotherapist, and spiritual facilitator who helps high-achieving women reconnect with their inner wisdom and step into soul-aligned success.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: As director of the Mindful Impact Wellness Hub and creator of the Pause with Purpose and Strategic Slowdown Frameworks, she bridges science, psychology, and spirituality to guide clients out of burnout and into balance.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: With warmth and depth, Tanya shares how slowing down can heal, align, and awaken you to your highest potential.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Welcome to the show, Tanya. Great to have.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: Thank you so much for having me, Jill.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So, let me ask you the big question, and we'll get rolling, okay?

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: Okay.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: What's the most significant thing, in your opinion, as individuals, we can change… we can do to change how the world is going.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: That's pretty counterintuitive in this hustle culture that we're all in, but it is exactly what you said before. It's about actually taking a moment to strategically slow down.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: And there is the word strategic in there for a reason, to strategically slow down, so that we can actually do things that are fundamentally important to our physiology and psychology. Let's just start with the concept of actually slowing our nervous system down.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: Because I don't know about you, but most of the people I know, especially those in business, working mums, hustle dads.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: We're all so busy living in the chaos that we don't even know who we are anymore. We're kind of losing our identities.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: And, we've got a bit of a short fuse with each other, if you may have noticed at a global level, and I think that's very much coming down to the fact that there is this… there's this bubbling level of resentment that's just moving through society, because we just don't know who we are, don't have enough time for ourselves, because society has just…

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: Sucked everything out of us, and there's not.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: left for us to just be in this world. And so I think the concept of the strategic slowdown has very much come from

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: my experience in that hustle, that corporate culture that I used to be in, now running my own business, there's a different type of hustle when you run your own business, but at the same time, there's still underlying resentment, as long as you don't…

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: as long as you slow down and look after yourself in the right ways, I think we can let all that go. And it definitely changes the mood, globally, when we actually start to do things for ourselves, and it's a place of selfishness.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: I think fundamentally, we need to go inside before we start looking outside with any concept in that world. This just happens to be one where that… the term of the strategic slowdown is about not letting just everything stop in your world, that's not what we're talking about. We're actually talking about the things that really matter to you, such as, for example, your health.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: That's areas where we would very strategically look at your life to go.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: what's not working here? What is working, but what's really not working? And how can we work on those individual parts

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: And let's also look at what… what universally across your life is working, and let's amplify that. That doesn't mean slowing down completely. I mean, I'm the fastest talking, fastest thinking slow coach in the world, so I'm not talking about just slowing everything down, so let's… let's get rid of that idea at the beginning. We are talking very strategically about working on yourself so that your nervous system can come back to regulation.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: Because we can't exactly connect with our higher self.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: And everything else that we have planned for us when we're in such a hustle space.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: That… that is for sure. And there's a difference between

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Being lazy, which often has a bad connotation to it, and… and strategically slowing down or making space for yourself, where you're not

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: You don't have planned activities.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: The world is so busy right now that often we're driven by our calendars, or our work schedules, and we're just, like, always… the next thing has to get done, because if we don't, then those four other things aren't going to be getting done either, and then we're just, like, way behind the eight ball, and then…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Then stress happens, and we're like, Uber's…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: If you plan time into your calendar, and if you make space for yourself that doesn't have, like, a to-do thing attached to it, it makes a huge difference. And it's not about, you know, doing nothing, though sometimes, you know.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Meditation could be considered doing nothing, but you're really doing a lot.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Sleeping could be, like, considered doing nothing, but it… we have to all… we all have to sleep!

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: Yeah.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And your body's doing stuff.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: That's how energetically sleepy is, too. I don't know about you, but I tend to go out and travel in the astral plane too much sometimes, and so I wake up exhausted. So, yeah, I mean, if you looked at my diary, like, I'm a really organized tourist, so every minute of the day is planned, but if you look deeper, you'll see that there's actually planned spontaneity in there.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: That sounds very counterintuitive, but yeah, there has to be, number one, there has to always be time for me first in there.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: Yes, all the work stuff and the clients, they absolutely are a priority to me.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: But if I can't function.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: what good am I to my clients, and to everybody else in the world, and to my kids and family? So yeah, I think you're absolutely right. The difference between the laziness and the slowing down

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: Completely different. Laziness has a belief system there that there's a sense of shame and punishment with it. And I think a lot of women in particular, we've all been… we've brought up with the idea that we need to do, do, do, do, so that we can be rewarded with rest.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: let's get rid of that idea, because the brain doesn't work that way. The brain loves it when you do something, then you reward yourself. Do something, then you reward yourself. So that do part for anyone could also be, as you said.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: It could actually be a meditation.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: You know, so yes, there's meditations where I would expect it to be quite actually energetic and vibrant, and you'd come out buzzing from it, and there's meditations where you're just going to literally sit and just be.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: in peace. So, no two meditations are the same, but I think what we're getting at here is the concept that let's let go of the idea that when we slow down or we rest, that there's a sense of guilt or shame or punishment behind it, because we haven't earned that right.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: You've earned that right by getting up in the morning and going about your day to be able to just be. Because when you find those little golden nuggets in the day where you just can sit.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: That's where your brain's hemispheres start to align with each other.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: And how often do we allow ourselves to have that moment where our two hemispheres can come together in synchronicity and actually reform the way our world's going to work for that day?

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: We just, we just, as you said, we just, we're so left-brained, we go, go, go, go, go. Then by the, you know, 6 o'clock, 7 o'clock, we're sitting on the couch wondering where our day's gone, and then feeling as though we're missing something in our worlds. Yeah, we're missing us. We're absolutely missing us in our own world.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I think that goes along with the… the being selfish and… and the don't daydream.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Those are the… and laziness. Those are the three things that, as children, we're taught are terrible things. You should never be lazy, and, you know, if you can't… if you come and tell me you're bored, I'll find something for you to do.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: The heck?

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Be bored! Learn to be bored.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: It's so important, and the daydreaming one's a classic, because obviously, as a clinical hypnotherapist, my whole job is to play in a space of the unconscious mind, which, you know, I don't know how much your viewers are going to know about this, but the unconscious mind, it lives in the space of imagination.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: And it's incredibly powerful. It's about 95% of the operating system of your brain. So, imagination versus willpower, which is the conscious mind.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: our subconscious mind's going to win every day of the week, so if we can actually align what we want in our world with what our subconscious is actually

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: visualizing, projecting for us. What a brilliant place to be. It means getting off the couch and going for that walk makes it so much easier, instead of that internal struggle and that internal fight all the time. And so, most of my job with my clients is to make sure that what they… what they actually think they consciously want

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: Does the subconscious mind actually align with that? Because if it doesn't, we have to have a good chat with that, and we have to make sure that they're on the same page. And when it comes to imagination, I get a lot of adults coming in, and I say to them, look, we're going to be playing with imagination a lot in my office, and they're like, oh…

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: Really? That's all imagination, that's pretend, that's not real. Well, your subconscious mind doesn't know the difference between what's imagined and what's real, so let's take advantage of that, because we can change some pretty profound belief systems.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: And so then, you know, some unpleasant behaviors that come out of the other end, basically through using the power of the imagination.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, and that… that is so powerful, that statement, that your mind does not know the difference between what is imagined and what is

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: A physical reality, because… Actually, nothing exists.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: Exactly. Yep, we're on the same page.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: And your personality is very easy to change when we mess with the reality.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah. And it's… If we could allow our children to understand that

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: you know, you ask a kid, what are you gonna be when you grow up, and they tell you, I'm going to be a superhero. You know, who are you to tell them no?

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: Yeah, my kids have wanted to be dolphin trainers for many years, and now they laugh at that, and I'm like, hey, that's still a thing! Except the dolphins don't really need to be trained, so…

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: We're ready to recommend that.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: They may be the ambassador, the dolphin ambassadors at some point, because dolphins are highly intelligent beings, and whales. Maybe the dolphins should be training the humans.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Right.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And maybe they'll be the, like, the… the intermediary.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: Yeah. My children have had a wild imagination from the moment they could talk, and that's something my husband and I have encouraged completely for them. I mean, there were times where they had,

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: their past life recalls going on, and we just made it as part of their everyday conversation with us. There was no, or, you know, leading them astray with those conversations. It was just to sit and hold the space for them to explore.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: whatever that was for them. So, you know, as a classic example of my oldest daughter once telling me about how she doesn't like the heat, because, you know, she died in the heat. You know, she said, Mum, I had much darker skin, and I was wearing this little rag around my waist, and I was holding this spear, and I passed out, and I just died, because no one gave me water. And I was like.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: So who am I to correct that in her? Because that's just something she needs to express and explore. You know, let's not pretend

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: And our children enough to correct those conversations.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And it may very well be true.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: For her, it is, yeah.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Well, it is true to her, and… Because it's true to her?

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: It's…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I, you know?

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It is? It exists. That… that timeline exists somewhere, because.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: Absolutely. She… she connected that…

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: I do a lot of work in that quantum space with people in my office. Now, some will call it past life regression. I tend to actually just call it quantum travel, because, you know, who knows what we're aligning with, which dimensions we're going, which timelines we're connecting with in the here and now.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: But it's so profound for people, and I've done over 80 myself, and it's incredibly life-changing when you're in the right hands, and it's a gentle process for the person, and you're going there for the right reasons, and not just to…

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: be curious. You're looking to unravel something that exists in this plane that's not serving you, that's where the gold nuggets are for people. And, yeah, so many clients have walked away just astounded, and completely changing their belief systems, and going.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: Because I'll certainly set them up to say, look, whatever comes up for you.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: is real for you. It doesn't have to be real for me. I'm not here to judge. Who's my place to say? And I probably wouldn't share it with other people as well, because they're gonna think you're batshit crazy, excuse my French. But, to be real frank.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: Who cares? That's your experience, and if it brings you the healing and the result that you need.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: Fantastic. That's exactly what we're here for.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I have a story about this whole thing, in that my whole life, I have been terrified of heights. Not, like, I can go in… I can go in airplanes, if I'm enclosed in a height, no problem. But open…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: expanses where I can fall over a cliff.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I just, like, I have a visceral body reaction to it. Like, I… it causes me to want to throw up. And it's been that way as long as I can remember. And I had…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: a vision of me as a young woman riding on a horse in England.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: by the cliffs, and we went over the edge, that's how I died.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: In… in whatever that thing was, and I think…

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: Nope.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Knowing that, having had that vision, I… I understand why I have this…

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: Fear.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: of…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: of these kinds of open spaces, and it makes it easier for me, because it's like, well, I don't have to be afraid of it, I'm not in that situation, and I'm…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: possibly not going to die that way. Though I did… we did… actually, I was on a trip with, my ex-husband a lot of years ago. We were up in the mountains, and it was icy, and we caught ice with our vehicle and spun on this mountain road, and the… the tires were, like, half off.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: The edge on my side.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah. And it was like.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: Yeah. Look, I think there's a healthy level of fear there going on, too.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah. That's something to remember.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: remind yourself of. I mean, I used to have a ridiculous fear of fire, and I think a healthy fear of anything that's dangerous for you. I mean, I live in Australia, so, you know, I don't want my kids running out and playing with the snakes and the spiders, etc. So a healthy level of fear is good, and I would maintain that with all my clients, but I think…

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: There's a level of awareness that helps set you free, but beyond the awareness is the learning.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: Because you can… you can experience and be part of one of these processes.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: But I think you really need to dive down deeper into it to go, what's the emotion? Because it's always the emotional bridge that keeps us… keeps it coming back to us. What's the emotion that, you know, that my higher self is actually trying to show me in this moment that needs to… I need to release that so we stop the looping.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: Because it's only doing it, it's bringing it back to you, because it's something that hasn't been learnt from it. And when we can do that, we break that need to continually bridge back to it.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: Okay, so I've had plenty of existences in the past where I've done the classical, you've been buried at the steak kind of thing, and gone, but it wasn't enough to have just understood that that's where it came from.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: it was to understand the story and the explanation behind how I got to that place, and that it's okay to share who I am and all that kind of stuff that so many of us have gone through, that stop hiding.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: let it all out, and when you get to that place, you can just stop the emotions. In fact, I don't even remember what emotion got me there in the first place. It's obviously a level of fear of fire, but now I have no problem with fire at all. I'm not going to go running into a fire.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: But at the same time, I can now be around the, you know, the open fire or a bushfire, etc, and not freak out about things, whereas I used to be that really annoying person that was always like, don't go anywhere near it.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: So, there is that component. And so, for me, I always ask the clients, it's not just about what's the belief system that's leading you to explore this, it's also about what's the emotional link that's going on here. And if we sit long enough, and we're curious enough, we will find what the real underlying emotion is.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: A lot of people are like, oh, I'm just angry, or I'm scared. We need to go a little deeper with that.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's a trust. It has… for me, it is definitely a trust issue, which is odd, because it's just me and a horse and a cliff.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: But… It's like you s- you know.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: If you sit with it, you, you get that… Knowing…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: For lack of a better word.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: you get the downloads as to, okay, why am I being shown this?

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: Yep.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, I… It's so fascinating how…

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: We can take all of this information that's so available to us, but for so many years, we've just been like, no, you can't believe that.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: But I think it's helping us… all the way back to that conversation we had at the beginning, is to…

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: We don't have the time to explore this stuff, because we don't allow it.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And this is, again, it's about that strategic slowdown. If you've got an emotion.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: Shame, guilt, abandonment, rejection, whatever it is, it's not going anywhere, and it's going to keep showing up in different ways and forms and different people that come into your life, until you take that time to strategically slow down and sit with this, and learn what it is that needs to be learned so it can be released.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: you're a system, and you can't skip a part in the system, otherwise we have a complete systems failure. So that's, you know, if we want to look really technically, we need to be able to do that, and we have to be able to allow our neural pathways to realign to a new way of thinking once that emotion is gone as well.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: So, there's a few different layers there. But you can't do it in the hustle culture. You've got to pull back and slow down.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's… it's really hard to control people who… who spend time living intentionally.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And it's not in most government's best interest to have a large population that does that, but it's in the population's best interest to stop

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And live intentionally, because that is where we're going to help each other have a better experience here, and more novel experiences, because I think that's what we're here for. Absolutely.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: Absolutely. I mean, I work with a whole range of people, and it's really nice to see men and women at high-level executives coming in and exploring this work, because what they used to do doesn't work anymore. The high-level masculinity that both men and women bring to the workforce.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: And that level of compassion and that conscious leadership that needs to occur is what people are looking for, and I think

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: It sounds harsh to say, but COVID was the disaster we needed to have to start resetting for people.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: Because certainly from a clinical perspective for me, COVID brought out everybody's stuff.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: You know, their sense of isolation, loneliness, their abandonment, everything that came… that was just percolating underneath, it all came up during COVID. So it was an invitation to release and reset.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: Whether you took that invitation or not, that's on you, but I think we're moving towards this sort of New Earth concept, and I think when we get to this beautiful marker of, what is it, about 27% of the population gets there.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: watch out, because we're unstoppable when we can actually turn into… go internally. Rather than all the external blame that likes to occur constantly, when we go internal, do the work, I think, as you said, we show up in the world of a… not, I don't care, but it's more of a, you do you.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: I'll do me.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: it's like, I can be the color I am, and you can be your color, and, you know, we might look really good together, or we might clash. And if that happens, you could just, like, go stand over next to a color that…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Makes you shine really pretty. It doesn't… it's not…

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: I eventually realized you are all the colors.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, you are. We are all connected, we are all one.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: Actually, that's interesting, I should say, from the work in the… in the quantum travels that I do.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: The amount of time that people who.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: have sort of come into me, and they might be, you know, they might be a little bit racist. They'll suddenly realize that, hang on a minute, damn it, I've been…

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: that person that I don't like in this life before, and vice versa. And so they've had plenty of existences where they've been everything and then some. And that's a… that's a real great way to humble someone, is when they have those experiences, and that's exactly what the Higher Self is here to do, is to shine that light on

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: you might need to, adjust your thinking in this life, or you're going to continue to loop. And this issue of hatred, etc, is going to keep coming back and back and back.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: from leaders, and I… In my worldview, there's no borders.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: We just live in this realm that we live in, whatever shape you want to think it is.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And… And we can move about, and meet, and have experiences, and explore this…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: this realm, because it's amazing.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: the more people that get into the, you do you, I'll do me mindset, and that we are… there's no good, bad… there's just labels that we put on people.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: To justify ourselves, things in ourselves we might not like.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: the more that we can get out of that, and into the, you know, just be curious. Let's see what you're doing, and how you're doing it, and where you're going, and…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: What have you seen? Share with me.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: Yeah, yeah.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: And it's funny, because I say to my clients a lot, like, there's a lot of black and white thinking that goes on in this world. You know, as you said, everything's right or wrong, it's good or bad, but if you just allow yourself to play in the grey space in between on this spectrum.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Life becomes a lot easier.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: Because when you're not right nor wrong, you just are.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: And some people are like, nope.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: And I have a very scientific husband, and sometimes we have these conversations a lot, and he's, you know, what is truth tends to come up a lot nowadays, you know, after everything we've been through about, you know, false facts, etc. It's very difficult to find out, certainly from a universal perspective, as to what is the truth nowadays.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: Because it always runs through the filters of your life.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: your perspective, your traumas, everything you've been through. And I always, you know, use that classic example to my children of, well, if the number 6 was written on the ground, and you were standing on one side, and somebody else was standing on the other, it's a 6 to you, but it's a 9 to them, and both are true.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: So let's just be open and aware that that can exist. And that power of critical thinking, I think that needs to be taught more in schools, to be able to hold two opposing ideas in your head and be okay with it.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: not have to fail.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I have an opinion about it!

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It could just be.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: Yeah, but none of this really works unless we have the chance, like you and I are right now.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: to slow down and have these conversations. I don't know about you, but I'm not a huge socialite, and I can't stand the white noise conversations people have with each other all the time. I would rather sit with one person and go deep on some amazing concepts together, so we can both expand our consciousness, as opposed to talking about the weather or politics.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yes.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I'm with ya.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: That's why I do what I do. I get that opportunity.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And we get to have some interesting conversations, and…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: To me, there is a difference between truth and facts.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: A fact is something that's repeatable, testable, and observable, and doesn't change.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: a truth…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: is just open to interpretation. It depends on which side of the squiggly thing you're standing on, whether it's a 6 or a 9, or a 1 or an L, or an O and a 0. And does it really matter?

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: No, well, no, really.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's very fair.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: things. As I always say to my kids, you know, is this going to matter on your deathbed? Let it go. So, so many people come to me, though, because that very issue of not being able to let it go. And that does require some deeper internal work to understand what's behind that.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It doesn't… you know, just because I say that doesn't invalidate other people's feelings that it does matter, because to them, it might really matter.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: And… and…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: There's obviously gonna be something behind why it matters so much, why they have to hang on to it.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah. I can tell you… As a trauma.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: Let it go.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: Yeah, well, as a trauma specialist myself, it's easy to say, let it go, but for those that are still holding on to their traumas, it's almost physically impossible for them to do that.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: until they have that deeper understanding. And they won't know those traumas, other than they see a behavior that's coming out of them that they really don't like. And for some, like, I have one person that comes to me.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: And for them, it was that they didn't like the biting their nails. And most people were like, oh, I'll just do a quick hypnosis session, it'll be gone in a day. But for me, I'm like, I actually want to understand the root… the deeper cause to this.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: Because that's just the symptom.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: what really triggered this in the first place. And so that's something that I'm very, very aware of with people. I don't just go in and deal with symptoms with anyone. I think that's everyone… a waste of time for people. If you go for the root cause, it's just like pulling that chain of

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: pearls at the very beginning and letting it all go, as opposed to having to deal with every single trauma in your life. Who's got time for that? Go all the way back to the beginning, find what's really embedded in your psyche, and go from there.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So that kind of brings me around to how do you actually work with people? Is it one-on-one? Is it in groups? Is it…

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: courses? It's both. So I do one-on-work with people online all over the world. I do deep transformations with them one-on-one. And then I also have a group program that I keep specifically for the healers, the practitioners, those people that are the helpers, I will call them.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: That don't necessarily have a safe space for them to just vent, for them to let it out. It's not about trauma bonding, we don't do that. What we do do is make sure that they've got that place where they can expand their consciousness as well, because when we're constantly working on everybody else all the time, we sometimes forget ourselves.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: And so this is a bit of a homecoming for them, and a remembering of why they started in the first place, and looking after themselves. I mean, we go through some business concepts and, very much about the identity of them and their business, but it is much more about a soul-level conversation. So yeah, I definitely work online and in person, all over the place.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Do you… do you work with companies?

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: I do, yep. I have a… I come from the corporate world, I have a marketing and a business background, so I do work as a consultancy, and I come in and I help organizations, and specifically tend to also talk to executives.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: Because I think the ripple-down effect is a beautiful thing, and when they can let go of their traumas, when they can work cohesively as a team at the executive level, C-suite.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: Life is a lot more pleasant, so to speak, but yeah.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Hi, everyone.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: out to me. Yeah, people can reach out to me on my website, and they can certainly see all the different things I do. I'm also a professional speaker as well. So, there's a range there of ways people can access me and my stuff.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Awesome, awesome. And they can also… they can schedule a 45-minute

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Consult with you to just, like.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Understand all of the nuances of what you have to offer. And you also offer a free strategic slowdown meditation.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: Yeah, I do. A slowdown meditation as well as a strategic slowdown checklist, like a daily priority checklist for them, so that they can start to see some of the areas that they can improve. That's all available on my website. The 45-minute call is really a chance to get some clarity as to

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: is this even right for them? Is this what they need? Because I'm very honest, I'm like, if this is not what you need, I will refer you.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: But I think there's… I have 3 different programs on offer, and generally speaking, from that call, we can work out, well, do you need just a short-term

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: Work? Do you need slightly longer? None of my programs really go beyond 3 months. I don't believe in talk therapy for 20 years. I feel as though we can get it done pretty quickly. Even though I'm, like, into the strategic slowdown, it's the work we do within the container of the program that slows us down, but the program itself is pretty fast.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: So, yeah, I would say there's always something in there for everyone. It just depends

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: where they're at. So one of those reasons that I do those calls is I need to make sure people are ready.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: not everyone's ready for this process, but you kind of know when you've got that burning desire to just, I've got to get through something.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: Make the call.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Awesome. And they can find you at tanyadabies.com?

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: Tanyadavies.com, and you'll find all the links there.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Awesome.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Thank you so much for joining us today, Tanya. It's been great chatting with you.

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Tania Davies | Consciousness Change Agent™️: Thanks for the opportunity.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: To learn more about Tanya, and to get your free strategic slowdown meditation, or reach out to her to schedule a consult.

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