1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:13,560 Blair: Foreign. Here we are, Martin and I here to in the secular foxhole celebrating another 2 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:14,160 episode. 3 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:16,079 I believe it's number 98. 4 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:16,880 Hi Martin. 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:17,760 Martin: Hi Blair. 6 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:20,400 Blair: It's good, good to hear from you. 7 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,560 Same today here in the United States. 8 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:24,880 It's Memorial Day. 9 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:25,840 Martin: Yep. 10 00:00:26,240 --> 00:00:29,680 Blair: And it's where we honor our, our fallen soldiers. 11 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:32,640 And I was. 12 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,960 Martin: Is that clear? Missing in action also. 13 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:42,400 Blair: No, missing in action means that they don't know what happened to the soldier. 14 00:00:42,480 --> 00:00:45,440 He could be in a prison of war camp or he, 15 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:47,120 they couldn't find his body. 16 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:48,480 Martin: Yeah. 17 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:49,600 Blair: A prisoner of war. 18 00:00:50,160 --> 00:00:55,420 But missing in action means they couldn't find his body or he's still in prison camp or they 19 00:00:55,420 --> 00:00:57,260 just don't know his whereabouts. 20 00:00:57,980 --> 00:01:05,500 I was thinking earlier today that Ayn Rand the dominant ethics around the world is Judeo 21 00:01:05,500 --> 00:01:13,820 Christian and the word sacrifice is just oozing out of everyone's TV commentators 22 00:01:14,060 --> 00:01:14,780 mouths. 23 00:01:15,660 --> 00:01:22,060 But I like what Ayman Rand said that it's not a sacrifice to defend something you value. 24 00:01:23,590 --> 00:01:24,470 You know, that's. 25 00:01:24,470 --> 00:01:28,150 I think that that sentiment needs to be more 26 00:01:28,150 --> 00:01:28,710 widely. 27 00:01:29,270 --> 00:01:31,550 Martin: If you advertised, if you will. 28 00:01:31,550 --> 00:01:31,870 Yeah. 29 00:01:31,870 --> 00:01:32,790 If you defend values. 30 00:01:33,030 --> 00:01:33,710 Yeah, yeah. 31 00:01:33,710 --> 00:01:36,070 Defend values and liberty and freedom. 32 00:01:36,550 --> 00:01:36,990 Blair: That's right. 33 00:01:36,990 --> 00:01:38,070 It's not a sacrifice. 34 00:01:38,150 --> 00:01:38,630 Martin: Yeah. 35 00:01:38,790 --> 00:01:41,590 Blair: But it's a tragedy if you lose your life. 36 00:01:41,590 --> 00:01:42,230 But it's. 37 00:01:42,310 --> 00:01:46,710 If you understand the meaning and value of 38 00:01:46,710 --> 00:01:50,390 freedom and liberty, it's not a sacrifice. 39 00:01:50,390 --> 00:01:52,670 So. But that was something I thought of 40 00:01:52,670 --> 00:02:01,870 earlier and we are, you know, but this, it's a solemn day for many, many people across the 41 00:02:01,870 --> 00:02:03,790 country and around the world. 42 00:02:04,030 --> 00:02:06,270 But otherwise, you know, 43 00:02:07,550 --> 00:02:12,870 my wife and I had went out today and did some errands and did some things and had some at 44 00:02:12,870 --> 00:02:13,310 lunch. 45 00:02:14,030 --> 00:02:15,950 But what else did we do? 46 00:02:16,510 --> 00:02:21,800 I have a couple of interesting stories and some thoughts about. 47 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:29,880 Again, this is episode 98. So we have one more before episode 100. 48 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:30,920 Martin: Yep. 49 00:02:30,920 --> 00:02:35,640 Blair: And I'm trying to reach out to an objectivist intellectual. 50 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:36,680 Martin: Yep. 51 00:02:36,920 --> 00:02:38,440 Blair: For show number 100. 52 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,920 But he, that gentleman has not responded. 53 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:41,960 Okay. 54 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,200 So we will see if that takes. 55 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:48,040 Takes fruition or not. 56 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:49,960 Martin: Yep, it will, it will happen. 57 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:51,860 We have some backup plans also. 58 00:02:51,940 --> 00:02:55,380 I mean with 100 episodes we could have a review. 59 00:02:55,460 --> 00:02:57,380 We could have a so called best of. 60 00:02:57,380 --> 00:03:00,380 Even if every episode is the best so far, I 61 00:03:00,380 --> 00:03:04,220 think you learn from it. 62 00:03:04,220 --> 00:03:09,380 And so and also of course the listener out there, what's your favorite episode? 63 00:03:09,380 --> 00:03:16,100 And then you could support us in that way, could send a gift for that episode because 64 00:03:16,100 --> 00:03:22,520 it's a creation and we are putting in time, energy and money into this and it's so called 65 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,680 free because you could Listen for free, 66 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:26,520 but it's not really free. 67 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,760 And we will continue doing this. 68 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:36,920 But it's great to get this appreciation and some support and getting something back, so to 69 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:37,120 speak. 70 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,400 But that's also as we are interested in 71 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:41,920 philosophy and fundamental ideas. 72 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,160 You often hear that giving back to the 73 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:44,440 community, 74 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:46,600 to the society, to the country, 75 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,450 to the, to the race, to the labor party, whatever. 76 00:03:52,050 --> 00:03:52,930 And that's scary. 77 00:03:54,690 --> 00:03:56,970 So we don't want to have any sacrifice. 78 00:03:56,970 --> 00:03:59,570 But the good thing with this value for value 79 00:03:59,650 --> 00:04:06,490 model and with real money like parts of bitcoin satoshis, you could send a very small 80 00:04:06,490 --> 00:04:12,170 amount without any special fees and it would go directly to us and then we could distribute 81 00:04:12,170 --> 00:04:13,890 it and split it to our guests. 82 00:04:14,590 --> 00:04:17,710 So I really see the opportunities here in the future. 83 00:04:17,710 --> 00:04:25,670 But it will take time and still accept silver coins and check in the mail. 84 00:04:25,670 --> 00:04:33,070 They could send it to you and PayPal, we have several buy me a coffee and other things like 85 00:04:33,070 --> 00:04:33,310 that. 86 00:04:34,270 --> 00:04:36,750 Blair: But what was I my train of thought was. 87 00:04:39,710 --> 00:04:44,670 Martin: The guests that you're planning and also our episodes and you have reached out. 88 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:46,120 Blair: Right. 89 00:04:46,280 --> 00:04:48,680 So hopefully that gentleman will respond. 90 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:49,440 Martin: Yep. 91 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:56,440 Blair: But as you just said there are backup plans and but I wanted to. 92 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:59,760 I do have a bit of a sandwich today. 93 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:01,000 New sandwich I have. 94 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:09,440 I want to start off with a good some good news and of course when I look for good news I 95 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:14,150 always go to human progress.org yep. 96 00:05:14,310 --> 00:05:18,230 And I'll just read this off if I may. 97 00:05:18,550 --> 00:05:19,030 Martin: Yes. 98 00:05:19,350 --> 00:05:19,790 Blair: Quote. 99 00:05:19,790 --> 00:05:22,590 Over the last few weeks there there's been a 100 00:05:22,590 --> 00:05:26,230 massive nuclear policy shift in Europe and North America. 101 00:05:27,430 --> 00:05:30,790 Belgium voted to abandon its nuclear phase out plan. 102 00:05:31,430 --> 00:05:37,070 Germany signaled that it will no longer oppose classifying nuclear power alongside renewables 103 00:05:37,070 --> 00:05:39,390 in EU law. 104 00:05:39,870 --> 00:05:45,470 Sweden plans to build an additional 5 gigawatt of nuclear capacity by 2035. 105 00:05:45,710 --> 00:05:46,430 Good for you. 106 00:05:46,750 --> 00:05:47,550 Martin: Yeah, it is. 107 00:05:49,470 --> 00:05:54,790 Blair: Then. See, President Trump signed four executive orders intended to expedite nuclear 108 00:05:54,790 --> 00:05:55,870 reactor approval, 109 00:05:56,430 --> 00:05:58,270 boost domestic fuel supply, 110 00:05:58,910 --> 00:06:05,230 authorize reactor construction on federal land and dramatically expand United States or US 111 00:06:05,310 --> 00:06:06,670 nuclear energy production. 112 00:06:07,220 --> 00:06:12,940 Martin: Yeah. And Blair, to be a bit symbolic, we have talked about that we are not as 113 00:06:12,940 --> 00:06:17,500 atheist per se because that's, you know, removal of God or whatever. 114 00:06:17,500 --> 00:06:18,980 Atheist, atheist. 115 00:06:19,620 --> 00:06:25,220 But the symbol is the atomic symbol for many atheists and it's also nuclear power. 116 00:06:25,940 --> 00:06:30,740 So that's interesting in a way with science and nuclear and this power thing. 117 00:06:31,300 --> 00:06:39,690 So that's something I saw that you did as fun as a co pilot and also the AI to the secular 118 00:06:39,690 --> 00:06:40,290 foxhole. 119 00:06:40,290 --> 00:06:43,250 And when you got the fox and a microphone and 120 00:06:43,410 --> 00:06:45,650 the word of our podcast. 121 00:06:46,050 --> 00:06:49,570 Blair: Yes, I think that should be I honestly think that should be our new symbol. 122 00:06:49,570 --> 00:06:50,050 But that's. 123 00:06:50,050 --> 00:06:51,610 Martin: Yeah, we will look into that. 124 00:06:51,610 --> 00:06:52,050 And that's. 125 00:06:52,050 --> 00:06:58,810 I mean if we find creators that are good at this and we could come up with some kind of 126 00:06:58,810 --> 00:07:01,370 cooperation with this value for value and the split. 127 00:07:01,370 --> 00:07:09,960 So every time the artwork is showing in the episode, the art creator will get something or 128 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:19,000 if we could go and like a funding crowdfunding campaign or something like that, or using AI 129 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:20,480 in a way. 130 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:26,040 So I like what we have so far and it's worked for a long time, but I think it's a bit time 131 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,640 to do a new thing and even with the jingle also. 132 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,040 And we will talk more about that in the future. 133 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:37,130 So that was great news to hear about nuclear development there. 134 00:07:37,610 --> 00:07:39,210 Of course it has to be safe. 135 00:07:39,370 --> 00:07:41,450 And that's a problem here in Sweden. 136 00:07:41,610 --> 00:07:47,970 When we had this so called election to go and vote for that, it was either. 137 00:07:47,970 --> 00:07:51,450 It was very scary tactics because it had been this, you know, 138 00:07:52,010 --> 00:07:55,290 tragic accident in Harrisburg. 139 00:07:55,690 --> 00:08:00,650 And so it was hard to promote safe nuclear because. 140 00:08:00,730 --> 00:08:01,130 And, 141 00:08:01,580 --> 00:08:03,260 but so much have developed over time. 142 00:08:03,260 --> 00:08:06,340 But Sweden then you're not allowed at all to 143 00:08:06,340 --> 00:08:11,740 do research and development or looking into the science and develop it over time. 144 00:08:11,740 --> 00:08:13,660 So it was shut down totally. 145 00:08:13,900 --> 00:08:14,780 Blair: That's crazy. 146 00:08:14,860 --> 00:08:15,740 That's crazy. 147 00:08:16,060 --> 00:08:19,820 Martin: And Germany was the leading pack there. 148 00:08:20,460 --> 00:08:21,980 They really put that. 149 00:08:22,140 --> 00:08:22,700 And then, 150 00:08:23,180 --> 00:08:27,340 sorry to say, many other European countries influenced and that's the Green. 151 00:08:27,770 --> 00:08:30,490 The Green Party and the Green Movement coming from Germany. 152 00:08:30,490 --> 00:08:32,490 That's original from that. 153 00:08:33,130 --> 00:08:33,770 Blair: Oh yes. 154 00:08:33,930 --> 00:08:34,570 Oh yeah. 155 00:08:35,050 --> 00:08:35,450 Well, 156 00:08:36,010 --> 00:08:42,410 otherwise I know that there has been significant advancement in nuclear safety 157 00:08:43,610 --> 00:08:44,170 certainly. 158 00:08:44,410 --> 00:08:47,450 So that should be incorporated into what's 159 00:08:47,450 --> 00:08:49,770 happening in here in the near future. 160 00:08:50,090 --> 00:08:53,050 So that. 161 00:08:53,450 --> 00:09:01,690 But as far as the new sandwich, the couple of bad news things both involve President Trump. 162 00:09:02,090 --> 00:09:02,570 Martin: Yeah. 163 00:09:03,050 --> 00:09:05,930 Blair: As you might expect, yes. 164 00:09:06,250 --> 00:09:10,730 He has betrayed the. 165 00:09:12,250 --> 00:09:19,930 The Afghanis who assisted the military in Afghanistan during that protracted conflict. 166 00:09:21,130 --> 00:09:29,550 He has not only threatened to send them back, he has actually sent them back to Afghanistan. 167 00:09:29,630 --> 00:09:34,990 The people that assisted our military for all those years and were, 168 00:09:36,350 --> 00:09:38,430 because they were loyal to us, 169 00:09:39,230 --> 00:09:46,590 they were granted access to the United States while he has kicked them out. 170 00:09:49,700 --> 00:09:50,860 Martin: Yeah. Strange. 171 00:09:50,860 --> 00:09:53,540 And as continue. 172 00:09:54,820 --> 00:09:57,220 Blair: So that's the right hand sucker punch. 173 00:09:57,220 --> 00:10:03,020 And the left one is that in this big beautiful 174 00:10:03,020 --> 00:10:14,020 bill it's in front of the Senate right now, there's a 62 word plank, if you will, that 175 00:10:16,910 --> 00:10:21,870 fellow objectivist Nicholas Provenzo has sounded the alarm about. 176 00:10:22,590 --> 00:10:28,910 I didn't bring that up and I. Let me see if I can get that his comment on that. 177 00:10:28,910 --> 00:10:36,030 But it's basically removing a protection of ordinary citizens, 178 00:10:36,830 --> 00:10:40,430 the constant, the constitutional protection of the people. 179 00:10:42,310 --> 00:10:45,590 So that is a huge alarming Trend. 180 00:10:46,870 --> 00:10:55,190 And so Mr. Provenzo, if you will, has urged every objectivist or every decent human being 181 00:10:55,190 --> 00:10:59,510 to write their senators to have that, 182 00:11:00,230 --> 00:11:03,110 that plank removed from this big beautiful bill. 183 00:11:04,710 --> 00:11:07,190 And so I'm going to formulate. 184 00:11:07,590 --> 00:11:11,500 And he actually wrote his. 185 00:11:11,500 --> 00:11:12,740 And he said he could. 186 00:11:12,820 --> 00:11:18,420 Anyone who wanted to, could use his template, just, you know, substitute your senators and 187 00:11:18,420 --> 00:11:19,700 so on and so forth to. 188 00:11:20,820 --> 00:11:21,460 To it. 189 00:11:23,220 --> 00:11:26,020 To that template and send it off. 190 00:11:26,580 --> 00:11:28,900 So that's what I'm going to do in the next day or so, 191 00:11:29,460 --> 00:11:31,060 because that they're not. 192 00:11:31,700 --> 00:11:33,580 I think they're still contemplating it. 193 00:11:33,580 --> 00:11:34,340 I don't think they're. 194 00:11:35,050 --> 00:11:39,930 Hopefully they'll take their time and look this thing over. 195 00:11:41,450 --> 00:11:42,370 Go ahead, go ahead. 196 00:11:42,370 --> 00:11:45,290 Martin: I will add a thing short commentary about. 197 00:11:45,290 --> 00:11:51,610 Because I will publish this on Ascension Day, or we call it in Swedish, 198 00:11:52,170 --> 00:11:59,770 like Christ Flying Day. It is so called when Christ was coming alive and going up to heaven 199 00:11:59,770 --> 00:12:00,970 with the apostles. 200 00:12:01,850 --> 00:12:03,530 So it's important for religious people. 201 00:12:04,010 --> 00:12:05,290 And then you could fly. 202 00:12:05,370 --> 00:12:08,810 And then Trump went to the Arab world and got 203 00:12:08,810 --> 00:12:10,090 a plane from Qatar. 204 00:12:10,330 --> 00:12:10,730 Right. 205 00:12:11,130 --> 00:12:13,130 Like a brighter thing. 206 00:12:13,450 --> 00:12:13,930 Blair: Yes. 207 00:12:14,170 --> 00:12:16,730 Martin: And you know, follow money where. 208 00:12:16,970 --> 00:12:17,690 What, what, 209 00:12:18,010 --> 00:12:21,050 what do they do in Qatar? That's something to think about, 210 00:12:21,370 --> 00:12:27,210 you know, with mosque building and religious dogma and other things like that. 211 00:12:27,210 --> 00:12:28,370 And the by. 212 00:12:28,450 --> 00:12:32,650 How do they call it, the studying schools that 213 00:12:32,650 --> 00:12:38,450 they are doing when they really put it inside their head, Quran thing. 214 00:12:38,450 --> 00:12:46,930 So that's something to think about why he went to these places in the Arabic world. 215 00:12:46,930 --> 00:12:47,490 You know, 216 00:12:47,970 --> 00:12:51,490 he even wanted to change the name of the Persian Gulf now. 217 00:12:52,050 --> 00:12:52,770 Blair: Oh, really? 218 00:12:53,010 --> 00:12:55,650 Martin: Yeah. And that were Pahlavi, 219 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,600 the son of Shaun of Iran. 220 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:02,720 He said that's BS it always have been called 221 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:09,320 Persian Gulf and shouldn't be called Arabic or Arab Gulf in order to appease them. 222 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:10,360 I mean, it's very. 223 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:12,680 Yeah. Tragic. 224 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:16,120 Blair: He's a blowhard. 225 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:20,200 Martin: Yeah. So the positive ending, positive thing then, right? 226 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:24,400 Blair: Yes, I wanted to discuss the positive thing. 227 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:25,080 I want to discuss. 228 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,360 I guess I could use the word triggered. 229 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:35,480 People may or may not know that. 230 00:13:35,560 --> 00:13:40,000 Of course, I'm an objectivist to the best of 231 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:40,480 my ability. 232 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:46,600 I follow my own ability to reason based on Ms. 233 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:47,480 Rand's ideas. 234 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:54,120 But I am alone in my family in that regard. 235 00:13:55,620 --> 00:14:09,260 And I got a clip from a family member on Facebook about the Reverend Charles Stanley 236 00:14:09,260 --> 00:14:16,500 and his little five minute ditto or Diddy was about where would you be without Jesus? 237 00:14:17,940 --> 00:14:19,380 And I just thought, you know what, 238 00:14:19,940 --> 00:14:27,710 I've listened to it and that I immediately thought I need To I had bought the pamphlet 239 00:14:27,710 --> 00:14:34,270 and the Kindle version of On Cargatte's Finding Morality and Happiness Without God. 240 00:14:35,470 --> 00:14:42,750 So I started reading that as the antidote to Mr. Stanley. 241 00:14:43,230 --> 00:14:53,760 And I highly, highly, highly recommend our listeners to find that pamphlet on Amazon and 242 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,920 either get the hard copy or the Kindle version. 243 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:07,080 And it's 31 pages and it is a gold mine of sunlit ideas, if you will. 244 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:11,480 So that's my new sandwich for the day. 245 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:12,840 I can end on that. 246 00:15:13,570 --> 00:15:16,610 And I know that again we've, 247 00:15:17,250 --> 00:15:21,090 you know, this is episode 98. 98 episodes of this podcast. 248 00:15:21,090 --> 00:15:23,010 That's over what now five years? 249 00:15:23,330 --> 00:15:24,450 Martin: Yep, time flies. 250 00:15:25,170 --> 00:15:26,690 Blair: Yeah, I'm very proud of that. 251 00:15:26,770 --> 00:15:27,490 Martin: Yeah, you should. 252 00:15:27,490 --> 00:15:27,890 And, 253 00:15:28,290 --> 00:15:29,250 and, and me too. 254 00:15:29,250 --> 00:15:32,770 And we have been then recognized another time 255 00:15:32,770 --> 00:15:37,970 in a. In a list of secular secularism or secular podcasts. 256 00:15:38,050 --> 00:15:43,740 And this time we got the placement number five. 257 00:15:44,220 --> 00:15:47,100 So I will include that in the show notes. 258 00:15:47,580 --> 00:15:48,620 Blair: Yes. Yeah, yeah. 259 00:15:48,620 --> 00:15:54,940 So in one survey we're number nine and in this 260 00:15:54,940 --> 00:15:56,380 new survey we're number five. 261 00:15:57,020 --> 00:15:58,140 Martin: So it looked. 262 00:15:58,380 --> 00:16:01,260 Yeah in similar in a way in the layout and 263 00:16:01,260 --> 00:16:05,420 design and so on, but it was a new domain and a new list. 264 00:16:05,580 --> 00:16:13,230 And also I pointed out to them because I tweeted to myself and others that on the list 265 00:16:13,310 --> 00:16:21,230 that our email address how we could contact and go to the secularfoxhole live and there 266 00:16:21,230 --> 00:16:23,390 you could have the contact information there. 267 00:16:23,550 --> 00:16:23,950 Blair: Right. 268 00:16:24,430 --> 00:16:29,630 Martin: We have listed because that's an address but it is a lightning address. 269 00:16:29,710 --> 00:16:31,390 So now it's getting this, you know, 270 00:16:32,510 --> 00:16:33,990 lingo but that's. 271 00:16:33,990 --> 00:16:38,180 We have one albit in order to get support and 272 00:16:38,180 --> 00:16:41,940 donations and this giving back in in a way. 273 00:16:42,100 --> 00:16:44,500 And that's looks like an email address but 274 00:16:44,500 --> 00:16:45,300 it's going to. 275 00:16:45,540 --> 00:16:47,300 Blair: Oh no, that's not an email address. 276 00:16:47,300 --> 00:16:47,700 No. 277 00:16:47,700 --> 00:16:49,620 Martin: Yeah, I pointed out that to them. 278 00:16:49,620 --> 00:16:52,499 So. Yeah, so. 279 00:16:52,900 --> 00:16:54,940 Blair: But they still haven't changed it. 280 00:16:54,940 --> 00:16:56,140 So they need to change it. 281 00:16:56,140 --> 00:16:56,540 Martin: But they. 282 00:16:56,540 --> 00:16:56,780 They. 283 00:16:56,780 --> 00:16:59,140 Blair: Another way to reach us, if I may just interject. 284 00:16:59,220 --> 00:16:59,780 Martin: Yeah. 285 00:16:59,860 --> 00:17:08,750 Blair: Is those who want to write us can just write us@secular foxholemail.com Good, that's 286 00:17:08,750 --> 00:17:09,270 very easy. 287 00:17:09,270 --> 00:17:13,670 Secular foxholemail.com yeah, but otherwise 288 00:17:14,230 --> 00:17:16,390 that's about all I have for this time. 289 00:17:17,270 --> 00:17:17,670 Martin: Great. 290 00:17:17,830 --> 00:17:21,670 Blair: And oh, I do want to mention one more thing. 291 00:17:21,830 --> 00:17:22,310 Martin: Yes. 292 00:17:22,390 --> 00:17:24,630 Blair: I don't know, Martin, if you have Netflix. 293 00:17:25,190 --> 00:17:25,590 Martin: No, 294 00:17:26,150 --> 00:17:26,910 but I haven't. 295 00:17:26,910 --> 00:17:28,230 I'm not a subscriber. 296 00:17:28,550 --> 00:17:30,230 That's again talking about value for value. 297 00:17:30,230 --> 00:17:31,990 It's often lock you in. 298 00:17:32,470 --> 00:17:39,930 So I would like the model that you put pay for as you want and you pay for a certain movie, 299 00:17:39,930 --> 00:17:45,210 whatever not locked in per monthly but it could be a good thing also. 300 00:17:45,210 --> 00:17:50,530 I mean saying that if you are listening out there and want to do that in an easy way, you 301 00:17:50,530 --> 00:17:52,890 could support us on a monthly basis. 302 00:17:53,610 --> 00:17:56,490 So that's an option also. 303 00:17:56,570 --> 00:17:57,250 But yeah. 304 00:17:57,250 --> 00:18:00,890 Well, what's on Netflix? Any new good stuff? 305 00:18:01,350 --> 00:18:10,590 Blair: Well, it's a Swedish film called Caliphate and I'm sure you can imagine what 306 00:18:10,590 --> 00:18:11,110 that's about. 307 00:18:12,150 --> 00:18:13,910 And so, 308 00:18:14,310 --> 00:18:18,150 and I follow on, 309 00:18:18,630 --> 00:18:27,790 I think it's Bing. I follow someone who reviews Netflix under the radar things and 310 00:18:27,790 --> 00:18:33,750 that was one of the things that they mentioned a Swedish film called Caliphate and so I 311 00:18:33,750 --> 00:18:34,190 haven't seen. 312 00:18:34,190 --> 00:18:36,150 I've started to watch it but I haven't finished. 313 00:18:36,630 --> 00:18:40,670 Martin: So please, please send the link and I'll include that and I will, I will check it 314 00:18:40,670 --> 00:18:44,870 out and see if it's original Swedish or if it's, I. 315 00:18:44,870 --> 00:18:48,870 Blair: Mean it's Swedish with English subtitles. 316 00:18:48,870 --> 00:18:53,190 Martin: So yes, then I definitely have to see it and find it. 317 00:18:53,190 --> 00:18:59,670 Maybe I will find it on the so called state public television but we pay it by the tax 318 00:18:59,670 --> 00:19:00,310 money there. 319 00:19:00,470 --> 00:19:01,430 We can't choo. 320 00:19:03,410 --> 00:19:05,970 But otherwise it could be on a commercial channel also. 321 00:19:06,530 --> 00:19:15,090 So I mentioned that in the Green Room to the Armageddon movie that's about the last battle 322 00:19:15,090 --> 00:19:22,930 and that's a scary movie but that's only I think available now on Alazera so that you 323 00:19:22,930 --> 00:19:25,530 have to take it with a bit of grain of salt, so to speak. 324 00:19:25,530 --> 00:19:31,730 But it's an interesting documentary to watch about how the religious. 325 00:19:32,290 --> 00:19:34,050 I think it's the evangelist, 326 00:19:34,690 --> 00:19:36,370 how do you call it? Evangelical, 327 00:19:37,890 --> 00:19:38,450 how they, 328 00:19:38,770 --> 00:19:42,930 you know, plan for the future about the last battle, the Armageddon. 329 00:19:44,290 --> 00:19:46,210 Blair: Well, I mean that's part of. 330 00:19:46,210 --> 00:19:47,690 I'm assuming that's probably part of 331 00:19:47,690 --> 00:19:48,890 revelation in the Bible. 332 00:19:48,890 --> 00:19:49,970 I would assume, yeah. 333 00:19:50,210 --> 00:19:51,490 And there are, 334 00:19:52,370 --> 00:19:56,050 I don't know how many Christian sects. 335 00:19:56,290 --> 00:19:58,690 Sects, S E C T s sects. 336 00:19:58,690 --> 00:20:04,790 There are probably over 200 and probably each one of them has their own bizarre version. 337 00:20:05,750 --> 00:20:16,870 And it is bizarre, I'm sure nonetheless we will continue to advocate reason, 338 00:20:17,750 --> 00:20:21,510 individualism and capitalism here at the secular Foxhole. 339 00:20:21,510 --> 00:20:22,910 Martin: Yeah, and the Trader principles. 340 00:20:22,910 --> 00:20:25,590 I will also include that in the show Notes on 341 00:20:25,590 --> 00:20:30,750 the Rand lexicon and also about this value for value concept episode when they're talking 342 00:20:30,750 --> 00:20:31,350 about that. 343 00:20:31,490 --> 00:20:36,850 And also a segment that you could listen and that's in a way coming from religious because 344 00:20:36,850 --> 00:20:38,050 they have been good at that. 345 00:20:38,130 --> 00:20:40,690 After the sermons you have this collection box 346 00:20:40,850 --> 00:20:44,210 or the net so it's time. 347 00:20:44,450 --> 00:20:47,970 But you listen to us and you spend time on that. 348 00:20:48,130 --> 00:20:55,250 We value that and then your talent, if you want to help with your future jingle or new 349 00:20:55,410 --> 00:20:58,610 artwork or maybe helping with chapters in the future. 350 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:04,960 And then, of course, treasure, that's payment and gifts giving in different ways. 351 00:21:05,360 --> 00:21:07,520 So that's this concept. 352 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:08,640 Blair: Right. 353 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,560 Martin: We do that in the show notes also. 354 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:11,520 So very good. 355 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:11,840 Blair: Yes. 356 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:12,560 Martin: Great player. 357 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:14,440 Blair: All right, Martin. 358 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,400 Well, thank you very much. 359 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:17,600 Martin: Yep. 360 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:18,640 Blair: And we will. 361 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:20,800 I think we can call it a wrap. 362 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:22,080 Martin: Yes, we will do that. 363 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:24,080 Blair: All right, Martin, thanks. 364 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:24,800 Martin: Bye for now. 365 00:21:25,120 --> 00:21:25,440 Blair: Bye. 366 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:25,760 Martin: Bye.