How important is it for you as a business owner to go to
Jon Clayton:networking events or other in-person events like conferences and workshops?
Jon Clayton:Well, if your answer is not very important.
Jon Clayton:You might rethink your position on it.
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Jon Clayton:networking and in-person events.
Jon Clayton:Hey everybody.
Jon Clayton:Welcome to the podcast today, it's all about networking and
Jon Clayton:attending in-person events.
Jon Clayton:So I'm going to talk a little bit about.
Jon Clayton:Why these events matter?
Jon Clayton:And to give you some suggestions about how you can handle them,
Jon Clayton:particularly if you're a little bit shy.
Jon Clayton:Or perhaps if there isn't anything local to you.
Jon Clayton:Why bother to go to networking events or, or the in-person events
Jon Clayton:like workshops and conferences?
Jon Clayton:There are an opportunity for growth so you can meet new people who might be
Jon Clayton:potential clients, future collaborators, maybe your next mentor, you can get
Jon Clayton:new ideas, you can discover new trends, whether that's, within architecture, if
Jon Clayton:you're attending an architecture specific event or whether that's to do with.
Jon Clayton:Business and marketing.
Jon Clayton:If it's a more general business networking event or workshop.
Jon Clayton:But ultimately it's about meeting people and building relationships.
Jon Clayton:There's also opportunities for learning and development Visibility,
Jon Clayton:you can build your visibility.
Jon Clayton:You can be seen as the face of your practice.
Jon Clayton:People can get to know you and it can help build your credibility.
Jon Clayton:if that is enough reason to go along then there's usually free tea and
Jon Clayton:coffee and maybe some free pastries.
Jon Clayton:If you're lucky.
Jon Clayton:So there's a few common myths about networking.
Jon Clayton:That networking's only for extroverts, that if you go to a networking
Jon Clayton:event that you need to like sell aggressively and that's going to
Jon Clayton:be the same that other people are going to be trying to sell to you.
Jon Clayton:Thrusting business cards into your hands.
Jon Clayton:That if it's a regular event that you need to attend every time.
Jon Clayton:Also the networking doesn't really lead to any tangible results.
Jon Clayton:That you have to be some kind of smooth talker.
Jon Clayton:To be successful at networking.
Jon Clayton:That networking is just a one time event once and done.
Jon Clayton:And then go into networking in person events is just about
Jon Clayton:what you get from all those.
Jon Clayton:So, I mean, I could challenge all of those points.
Jon Clayton:I always think it's best to go with the serve first mindset that if you go to a
Jon Clayton:networking event with the attitude of.
Jon Clayton:I'm here to listen to people, to hear their stories and to
Jon Clayton:find opportunities to help them.
Jon Clayton:Then that is a far better approach than going in there.
Jon Clayton:In a sales mindset thinking I need new customers.
Jon Clayton:I need to.
Jon Clayton:Get at my target is to give out as many of my business cards as possible.
Jon Clayton:I really would not recommend that approach.
Jon Clayton:To networking events and in-person events at all.
Jon Clayton:I'm going to talk a little bit, actually about the point about
Jon Clayton:the distrust for extroverts.
Jon Clayton:There are.
Jon Clayton:Plenty of ways that introverts can push a little bit out of the comfort zone and to.
Jon Clayton:Get a really good return on investment for the energy that they
Jon Clayton:put into going to networking events.
Jon Clayton:We'll swing back and talk about that in a little while.
Jon Clayton:Do you really need to go to any networking or in person events?
Jon Clayton:Nobody's forcing you to go to networking events or to conferences.
Jon Clayton:You don't have to go, but it's definitely beneficial for you.
Jon Clayton:And your business.
Jon Clayton:So.
Jon Clayton:It's a case of weighing up the pros and cons for you.
Jon Clayton:Based on your goals, on the goals for your business.
Jon Clayton:There are alternatives.
Jon Clayton:If for whatever reason.
Jon Clayton:You just can't get to in-person events.
Jon Clayton:You can attend online events.
Jon Clayton:There's plenty of virtual events.
Jon Clayton:That is definitely an option for you.
Jon Clayton:You can engage in online communities and forums and you can still
Jon Clayton:get benefits there and start to build relationships that way.
Jon Clayton:But I don't think anything beats the impact of just.
Jon Clayton:Being somebody in person and just getting in front of somebody in person.
Jon Clayton:So what if you're shy?
Jon Clayton:Now.
Jon Clayton:Believe it or not, this might surprise you.
Jon Clayton:Would be being a podcast.
Jon Clayton:I'm.
Jon Clayton:I'm quite shy.
Jon Clayton:I'm not an extrovert.
Jon Clayton:I'm really more of an introverted person.
Jon Clayton:And I mean, my early experiences of networking, I got invited
Jon Clayton:to networking events.
Jon Clayton:I said no to most of them.
Jon Clayton:And, I would kind of actively go out of my way to avoid going to
Jon Clayton:networking events or in-person events.
Jon Clayton:Uh, didn't really feel comfortable.
Jon Clayton:Um, there was some that I went to in the early days where it was
Jon Clayton:like a lunchtime CPD organized by a local building control company.
Jon Clayton:And.
Jon Clayton:That felt a bit more comfortable because I knew that there was going
Jon Clayton:to be a few familiar faces that.
Jon Clayton:But the thought of walking in a room full of people that were all chatting away and
Jon Clayton:me not knowing any of them, it kind of scared the living daylights out of me.
Jon Clayton:So I really didn't do.
Jon Clayton:Anywhere near north networking or attending events for many years.
Jon Clayton:And in particular, when we, as a family, relocated across the UK from
Jon Clayton:Lancaster to Norfolk back in 2016.
Jon Clayton:And at that point, I totally avoided going to any networking
Jon Clayton:events or in-person events.
Jon Clayton:And with hindsight, I think as a consequences was one of the reasons
Jon Clayton:why I really struggled to get my.
Jon Clayton:Architecture business off the ground in Norfolk.
Jon Clayton:Sales typically call from four different ways.
Jon Clayton:There's referrals.
Jon Clayton:Relationships, outbound sales and ads.
Jon Clayton:So advertising.
Jon Clayton:But then I didn't have the budget for paid advertising.
Jon Clayton:I didn't even know the outbound sales was a thing.
Jon Clayton:My past relationships had generally been built by accident.
Jon Clayton:There was no strategy behind it.
Jon Clayton:Pretty much all of my work, all of my paid work, all of my
Jon Clayton:clients had come from referrals.
Jon Clayton:And how to realize that building new relationships was one of the most
Jon Clayton:potent ways for me to get new customers.
Jon Clayton:I would've leaned into that.
Jon Clayton:Instead of hiding behind my computer.
Jon Clayton:Writing.
Jon Clayton:Social media posts and creating social media graphics because.
Jon Clayton:That's what a lot of the online gurus had taught me, the videos that I'd seen
Jon Clayton:on YouTube about how to get customers.
Jon Clayton:A lot of those people online were telling you it was all about social
Jon Clayton:media, Some people get sales from social media, but, you know, in
Jon Clayton:terms of what you can control.
Jon Clayton:And what has the most impact.
Jon Clayton:Focusing on people and building relationships.
Jon Clayton:I believe now is far more important than any of those other
Jon Clayton:things that you could be doing.
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Jon Clayton:So.
Jon Clayton:What if you're shy.
Jon Clayton:Trying to answer this question for you now.
Jon Clayton:I mean, Things that you can do.
Jon Clayton:You can start small.
Jon Clayton:You can attend a smaller event where it's easy to engage with people to have
Jon Clayton:one-to-one conversations, without it being too overwhelming, you could bring a
Jon Clayton:friend or a colleague along for support.
Jon Clayton:If there's a local event that you could go to.
Jon Clayton:You can do a little bit of preparation in advance, so you
Jon Clayton:can do little bit of research.
Jon Clayton:There might be a list of attendees.
Jon Clayton:And if there's a speaker.
Jon Clayton:That could be, a speaker or speakers.
Jon Clayton:If it's a bigger event that you can connect with in advance, you
Jon Clayton:can actually reach out to them.
Jon Clayton:Do a little bit of, I don't want to use the word stalking, cause that sounds a bit
Jon Clayton:creepy, but essentially that's what it is.
Jon Clayton:You be going out on to LinkedIn, for example, and.
Jon Clayton:Finding the speaker, that's going to be at the event and commenting
Jon Clayton:on a couple of their posts and maybe dropping them a message to say,
Jon Clayton:Hey, I'm going to be at the event that you're talking about next week.
Jon Clayton:Really looking forward to meeting you.
Jon Clayton:It's just.
Jon Clayton:A little icebreaker so that when you get in the room in person with them, whether
Jon Clayton:that's the speakers or the attendees.
Jon Clayton:You've already broken the ice.
Jon Clayton:You've already got something that you can talk about.
Jon Clayton:while you were at the event, I mean, Focus more on listening.
Jon Clayton:do more listening than talking.
Jon Clayton:So ask some open-ended questions, listen to what people have got to say.
Jon Clayton:Show some genuine interest in what people have got to talk about.
Jon Clayton:Listen to the stories, you know, people.
Jon Clayton:I appreciate good listeners and it takes the pressure off
Jon Clayton:you because then if you've got.
Jon Clayton:less that you need to talk about yourself because not every one,
Jon Clayton:particularly if you're an introvert.
Jon Clayton:Most of us introverts are, are not comfortable talking about ourselves.
Jon Clayton:So what I've thrown any events near you?
Jon Clayton:Something you can do is you can be strategic about which events you attend.
Jon Clayton:So you could consider traveling to a smaller number of larger
Jon Clayton:events during the year.
Jon Clayton:So rather than committing to doing something every week or every month,
Jon Clayton:you could just go, okay, I'm just going to go to one or two larger events where
Jon Clayton:there's going to be more people there to meet in a shorter space of time.
Jon Clayton:And that can work for some people.
Jon Clayton:So depending on where you're located in the world, it could be something like.
Jon Clayton:New York build or Chicago build.
Jon Clayton:If you're in the states or the AI.
Jon Clayton:Annual conference.
Jon Clayton:if you're out in Australia, it could be something like city bills.
Jon Clayton:If you're in the UK.
Jon Clayton:It could be something like, the Annual conference.
Jon Clayton:they have a marketing conference called guerrilla tactics and
Jon Clayton:a lot of regional RBA events.
Jon Clayton:CIAT for architectural technologists, they have an annual AGM conference event
Jon Clayton:on their half of the AT awards in London.
Jon Clayton:later on in the year.
Jon Clayton:And you've also got London build, which is another huge industry
Jon Clayton:event in the UK, which I'll talk about a little bit more later on.
Jon Clayton:So the other thing you could do, you could even host your own event.
Jon Clayton:If there is anything local.
Jon Clayton:You could always, you organize your own local meetup or workshop.
Jon Clayton:this doesn't even need to be anything fancy.
Jon Clayton:you don't need to provide catering.
Jon Clayton:You don't need to have speakers.
Jon Clayton:It could literally just be.
Jon Clayton:We're doing a meetup and it's at a local cafe or local Pope.
Jon Clayton:And it's just an opportunity for other business owners to come together.
Jon Clayton:It could be industry specific for architecture.
Jon Clayton:If you live in a big city.
Jon Clayton:It could be a property specific for people from the worlds of property,
Jon Clayton:construction and architecture.
Jon Clayton:Or it could be something that's more, generic for the small business owners
Jon Clayton:and there's advantages to doing.
Jon Clayton:Any of those types of events, but don't, over-complicate it just,
Jon Clayton:go out there and give it a try.
Jon Clayton:Do you think that I should mention again, just a reminder, you can
Jon Clayton:use online platforms so you can do.
Jon Clayton:I attend online events.
Jon Clayton:So you could organize your own online meetups over zoom or
Jon Clayton:Google meets, whatever you prefer.
Jon Clayton:And again, it's just another option for you.
Jon Clayton:If in-person, for whatever reason is it going to be possible?
Jon Clayton:So when it comes to the networking in-person events, what would
Jon Clayton:be my top recommendations?
Jon Clayton:Well, I think the first one really is just got to be.
Jon Clayton:Be yourself.
Jon Clayton:Like.
Jon Clayton:Be your authentic self.
Jon Clayton:When you go to these events, Share your interests and experiences.
Jon Clayton:And that authenticity shines fray.
Jon Clayton:I think that if you can turn up in a room full of people and you can be
Jon Clayton:comfortable to genuinely be yourself.
Jon Clayton:That authenticity, like people pick up on it.
Jon Clayton:It really helps to build trust quicker and it will help you to
Jon Clayton:build lasting relationships because.
Jon Clayton:your people in that room will be drawn to you.
Jon Clayton:If you are your true self while you're there.
Jon Clayton:Another top recommendation is to actually follow up, going to an
Jon Clayton:event and meeting people is great.
Jon Clayton:But if you just meet them once and nothing happens afterwards, like
Jon Clayton:what a total waste, this could be.
Jon Clayton:An amazing working relationship that you have together.
Jon Clayton:It could be a new friendship.
Jon Clayton:It could be a new partnership.
Jon Clayton:There could be an ex business partner.
Jon Clayton:There could be a next mentor.
Jon Clayton:Follow up with them.
Jon Clayton:And if you had a really engaging conversation and you've exchanged
Jon Clayton:contact details, just follow up afterwards and just say, Hey.
Jon Clayton:Really enjoyed that conversation.
Jon Clayton:We were having it, they event the other day.
Jon Clayton:feels like we, we didn't finish the conversation.
Jon Clayton:Are you interested in catching up sometime?
Jon Clayton:So that could either be again in person for a coffee.
Jon Clayton:It could be, online, over zoom.
Jon Clayton:You figure it out, but do follow up and maintain those connections.
Jon Clayton:Like those.
Jon Clayton:Relationships like meeting somebody new.
Jon Clayton:That's just the star.
Jon Clayton:the magic is in the follow-up.
Jon Clayton:What comes afterwards?
Jon Clayton:The other thing I would suggest you consider is actually setting, setting
Jon Clayton:some goals around networking in person events and to actually have some
Jon Clayton:kind of strategy behind it because.
Jon Clayton:They can be time-consuming and they can cost you money.
Jon Clayton:Particularly if you are traveling to big industry events that
Jon Clayton:aren't local, maybe having to pay for a train ticket, a flight.
Jon Clayton:Hotels, that sort of thing.
Jon Clayton:The cost of attending an in-person event.
Jon Clayton:can really Mount up and then obviously it's your time.
Jon Clayton:Like you never get your time back.
Jon Clayton:Like that's time you could be working on something else in your business or
Jon Clayton:delivering results for your clients.
Jon Clayton:So I would be quite strategic about which events you choose to attend.
Jon Clayton:And before you get to those events, just be clear on what your goals
Jon Clayton:are like, what is it that you're looking to get out of this event?
Jon Clayton:Are you going there?
Jon Clayton:Because you're looking to learn something.
Jon Clayton:Are you going there because you want him to make.
Jon Clayton:X number of new industry connections.
Jon Clayton:What is it?
Jon Clayton:What is the reason why you, that it might be a really different reason?
Jon Clayton:It could be that the main reason is just to be visible.
Jon Clayton:Maybe you're a new business and you're just wanting to get your name out there.
Jon Clayton:Get your face out there because you know, people buy from people.
Jon Clayton:They want to see the face behind the business.
Jon Clayton:But just be clear on what your own goals and objectives are.
Jon Clayton:So I hope you found this useful.
Jon Clayton:If you're interested in attending a large in-person event in the UK with lots of
Jon Clayton:networking and learning opportunities.
Jon Clayton:And if you'd like to meet me in person, then.
Jon Clayton:Why not come and join me at the UKs leading and largest construction
Jon Clayton:show London Bell's 2024.
Jon Clayton:It's taking place in November in London.
Jon Clayton:And I would absolutely love to meet you that if possible.
Jon Clayton:I'm really excited to share that I'm an opening speaker at the skills and
Jon Clayton:marketing hub at London bell 2024.
Jon Clayton:I'm going to be on stage at 10:00 AM or Wednesday.
Jon Clayton:The 20th of November, you can join me there for free.
Jon Clayton:At London bills, the event is on the 20th and 21st at the Olympia in London.
Jon Clayton:And you can register for free tickets using the link that
Jon Clayton:I've put in the show notes.
Jon Clayton:And I should also add as well.
Jon Clayton:But I'm planning to host an evening meetup, ideally,
Jon Clayton:a nearby pub to the venue.
Jon Clayton:It's going to be really casual.
Jon Clayton:It's just, you know, no kind of speakers or cringy like intros or anything.
Jon Clayton:It's literally just going to be meeting with some friends or
Jon Clayton:like-minded architecture, business owners and people within architecture.
Jon Clayton:at a nearby Pope to the venue, and I will share more details
Jon Clayton:about that in the coming months.
Jon Clayton:Once we pin down the details.
Jon Clayton:Okay, so that's it for this week.
Jon Clayton:So I will catch you next time.
Jon Clayton:Next time I'm joined by IO ABAs to talk about digital marketing.
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