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How important is it for you as a business owner to go to

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networking events or other in-person events like conferences and workshops?

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Well, if your answer is not very important.

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You might rethink your position on it.

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After this episode of architecture business club, the weekly podcast for

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networking and in-person events.

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Hey everybody.

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Welcome to the podcast today, it's all about networking and

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attending in-person events.

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So I'm going to talk a little bit about.

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Why these events matter?

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And to give you some suggestions about how you can handle them,

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particularly if you're a little bit shy.

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Or perhaps if there isn't anything local to you.

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Why bother to go to networking events or, or the in-person events

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like workshops and conferences?

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There are an opportunity for growth so you can meet new people who might be

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potential clients, future collaborators, maybe your next mentor, you can get

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new ideas, you can discover new trends, whether that's, within architecture, if

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you're attending an architecture specific event or whether that's to do with.

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Business and marketing.

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If it's a more general business networking event or workshop.

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But ultimately it's about meeting people and building relationships.

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There's also opportunities for learning and development Visibility,

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you can build your visibility.

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You can be seen as the face of your practice.

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People can get to know you and it can help build your credibility.

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if that is enough reason to go along then there's usually free tea and

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coffee and maybe some free pastries.

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If you're lucky.

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So there's a few common myths about networking.

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That networking's only for extroverts, that if you go to a networking

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event that you need to like sell aggressively and that's going to

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be the same that other people are going to be trying to sell to you.

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Thrusting business cards into your hands.

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That if it's a regular event that you need to attend every time.

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Also the networking doesn't really lead to any tangible results.

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That you have to be some kind of smooth talker.

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To be successful at networking.

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That networking is just a one time event once and done.

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And then go into networking in person events is just about

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what you get from all those.

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So, I mean, I could challenge all of those points.

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I always think it's best to go with the serve first mindset that if you go to a

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networking event with the attitude of.

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I'm here to listen to people, to hear their stories and to

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find opportunities to help them.

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Then that is a far better approach than going in there.

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In a sales mindset thinking I need new customers.

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I need to.

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Get at my target is to give out as many of my business cards as possible.

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I really would not recommend that approach.

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To networking events and in-person events at all.

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I'm going to talk a little bit, actually about the point about

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the distrust for extroverts.

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There are.

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Plenty of ways that introverts can push a little bit out of the comfort zone and to.

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Get a really good return on investment for the energy that they

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put into going to networking events.

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We'll swing back and talk about that in a little while.

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Do you really need to go to any networking or in person events?

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Nobody's forcing you to go to networking events or to conferences.

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You don't have to go, but it's definitely beneficial for you.

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And your business.

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So.

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It's a case of weighing up the pros and cons for you.

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Based on your goals, on the goals for your business.

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There are alternatives.

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If for whatever reason.

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You just can't get to in-person events.

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You can attend online events.

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There's plenty of virtual events.

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That is definitely an option for you.

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You can engage in online communities and forums and you can still

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get benefits there and start to build relationships that way.

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But I don't think anything beats the impact of just.

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Being somebody in person and just getting in front of somebody in person.

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So what if you're shy?

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Now.

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Believe it or not, this might surprise you.

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Would be being a podcast.

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I'm.

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I'm quite shy.

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I'm not an extrovert.

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I'm really more of an introverted person.

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And I mean, my early experiences of networking, I got invited

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to networking events.

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I said no to most of them.

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And, I would kind of actively go out of my way to avoid going to

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networking events or in-person events.

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Uh, didn't really feel comfortable.

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Um, there was some that I went to in the early days where it was

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like a lunchtime CPD organized by a local building control company.

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And.

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That felt a bit more comfortable because I knew that there was going

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to be a few familiar faces that.

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But the thought of walking in a room full of people that were all chatting away and

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me not knowing any of them, it kind of scared the living daylights out of me.

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So I really didn't do.

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Anywhere near north networking or attending events for many years.

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And in particular, when we, as a family, relocated across the UK from

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Lancaster to Norfolk back in 2016.

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And at that point, I totally avoided going to any networking

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events or in-person events.

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And with hindsight, I think as a consequences was one of the reasons

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why I really struggled to get my.

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Architecture business off the ground in Norfolk.

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Sales typically call from four different ways.

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There's referrals.

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Relationships, outbound sales and ads.

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So advertising.

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But then I didn't have the budget for paid advertising.

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I didn't even know the outbound sales was a thing.

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My past relationships had generally been built by accident.

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There was no strategy behind it.

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Pretty much all of my work, all of my paid work, all of my

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clients had come from referrals.

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And how to realize that building new relationships was one of the most

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potent ways for me to get new customers.

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I would've leaned into that.

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Instead of hiding behind my computer.

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Writing.

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Social media posts and creating social media graphics because.

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That's what a lot of the online gurus had taught me, the videos that I'd seen

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on YouTube about how to get customers.

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A lot of those people online were telling you it was all about social

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media, Some people get sales from social media, but, you know, in

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terms of what you can control.

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And what has the most impact.

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Focusing on people and building relationships.

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I believe now is far more important than any of those other

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things that you could be doing.

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Now, back to the show.

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So.

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What if you're shy.

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Trying to answer this question for you now.

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I mean, Things that you can do.

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You can start small.

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You can attend a smaller event where it's easy to engage with people to have

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one-to-one conversations, without it being too overwhelming, you could bring a

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friend or a colleague along for support.

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If there's a local event that you could go to.

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You can do a little bit of preparation in advance, so you

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can do little bit of research.

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There might be a list of attendees.

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And if there's a speaker.

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That could be, a speaker or speakers.

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If it's a bigger event that you can connect with in advance, you

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can actually reach out to them.

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Do a little bit of, I don't want to use the word stalking, cause that sounds a bit

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creepy, but essentially that's what it is.

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You be going out on to LinkedIn, for example, and.

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Finding the speaker, that's going to be at the event and commenting

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on a couple of their posts and maybe dropping them a message to say,

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Hey, I'm going to be at the event that you're talking about next week.

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Really looking forward to meeting you.

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It's just.

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A little icebreaker so that when you get in the room in person with them, whether

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that's the speakers or the attendees.

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You've already broken the ice.

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You've already got something that you can talk about.

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while you were at the event, I mean, Focus more on listening.

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do more listening than talking.

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So ask some open-ended questions, listen to what people have got to say.

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Show some genuine interest in what people have got to talk about.

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Listen to the stories, you know, people.

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I appreciate good listeners and it takes the pressure off

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you because then if you've got.

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less that you need to talk about yourself because not every one,

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particularly if you're an introvert.

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Most of us introverts are, are not comfortable talking about ourselves.

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So what I've thrown any events near you?

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Something you can do is you can be strategic about which events you attend.

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So you could consider traveling to a smaller number of larger

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events during the year.

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So rather than committing to doing something every week or every month,

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you could just go, okay, I'm just going to go to one or two larger events where

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there's going to be more people there to meet in a shorter space of time.

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And that can work for some people.

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So depending on where you're located in the world, it could be something like.

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New York build or Chicago build.

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If you're in the states or the AI.

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Annual conference.

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if you're out in Australia, it could be something like city bills.

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If you're in the UK.

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It could be something like, the Annual conference.

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they have a marketing conference called guerrilla tactics and

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a lot of regional RBA events.

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CIAT for architectural technologists, they have an annual AGM conference event

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on their half of the AT awards in London.

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later on in the year.

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And you've also got London build, which is another huge industry

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event in the UK, which I'll talk about a little bit more later on.

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So the other thing you could do, you could even host your own event.

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If there is anything local.

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You could always, you organize your own local meetup or workshop.

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this doesn't even need to be anything fancy.

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you don't need to provide catering.

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You don't need to have speakers.

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It could literally just be.

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We're doing a meetup and it's at a local cafe or local Pope.

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And it's just an opportunity for other business owners to come together.

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It could be industry specific for architecture.

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If you live in a big city.

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It could be a property specific for people from the worlds of property,

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construction and architecture.

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Or it could be something that's more, generic for the small business owners

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and there's advantages to doing.

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Any of those types of events, but don't, over-complicate it just,

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go out there and give it a try.

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Do you think that I should mention again, just a reminder, you can

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use online platforms so you can do.

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I attend online events.

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So you could organize your own online meetups over zoom or

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Google meets, whatever you prefer.

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And again, it's just another option for you.

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If in-person, for whatever reason is it going to be possible?

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So when it comes to the networking in-person events, what would

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be my top recommendations?

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Well, I think the first one really is just got to be.

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Be yourself.

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Like.

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Be your authentic self.

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When you go to these events, Share your interests and experiences.

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And that authenticity shines fray.

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I think that if you can turn up in a room full of people and you can be

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comfortable to genuinely be yourself.

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That authenticity, like people pick up on it.

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It really helps to build trust quicker and it will help you to

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build lasting relationships because.

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your people in that room will be drawn to you.

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If you are your true self while you're there.

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Another top recommendation is to actually follow up, going to an

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event and meeting people is great.

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But if you just meet them once and nothing happens afterwards, like

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what a total waste, this could be.

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An amazing working relationship that you have together.

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It could be a new friendship.

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It could be a new partnership.

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There could be an ex business partner.

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There could be a next mentor.

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Follow up with them.

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And if you had a really engaging conversation and you've exchanged

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contact details, just follow up afterwards and just say, Hey.

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Really enjoyed that conversation.

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We were having it, they event the other day.

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feels like we, we didn't finish the conversation.

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Are you interested in catching up sometime?

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So that could either be again in person for a coffee.

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It could be, online, over zoom.

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You figure it out, but do follow up and maintain those connections.

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Like those.

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Relationships like meeting somebody new.

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That's just the star.

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the magic is in the follow-up.

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What comes afterwards?

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The other thing I would suggest you consider is actually setting, setting

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some goals around networking in person events and to actually have some

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kind of strategy behind it because.

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They can be time-consuming and they can cost you money.

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Particularly if you are traveling to big industry events that

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aren't local, maybe having to pay for a train ticket, a flight.

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Hotels, that sort of thing.

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The cost of attending an in-person event.

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can really Mount up and then obviously it's your time.

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Like you never get your time back.

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Like that's time you could be working on something else in your business or

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delivering results for your clients.

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So I would be quite strategic about which events you choose to attend.

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And before you get to those events, just be clear on what your goals

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are like, what is it that you're looking to get out of this event?

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Are you going there?

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Because you're looking to learn something.

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Are you going there because you want him to make.

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X number of new industry connections.

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What is it?

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What is the reason why you, that it might be a really different reason?

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It could be that the main reason is just to be visible.

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Maybe you're a new business and you're just wanting to get your name out there.

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Get your face out there because you know, people buy from people.

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They want to see the face behind the business.

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But just be clear on what your own goals and objectives are.

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So I hope you found this useful.

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If you're interested in attending a large in-person event in the UK with lots of

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networking and learning opportunities.

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And if you'd like to meet me in person, then.

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Why not come and join me at the UKs leading and largest construction

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show London Bell's 2024.

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It's taking place in November in London.

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And I would absolutely love to meet you that if possible.

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I'm really excited to share that I'm an opening speaker at the skills and

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marketing hub at London bell 2024.

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I'm going to be on stage at 10:00 AM or Wednesday.

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The 20th of November, you can join me there for free.

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At London bills, the event is on the 20th and 21st at the Olympia in London.

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And you can register for free tickets using the link that

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I've put in the show notes.

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And I should also add as well.

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But I'm planning to host an evening meetup, ideally,

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a nearby pub to the venue.

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It's going to be really casual.

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It's just, you know, no kind of speakers or cringy like intros or anything.

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It's literally just going to be meeting with some friends or

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like-minded architecture, business owners and people within architecture.

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at a nearby Pope to the venue, and I will share more details

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about that in the coming months.

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Once we pin down the details.

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Okay, so that's it for this week.

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So I will catch you next time.

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Next time I'm joined by IO ABAs to talk about digital marketing.

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