I think there's a lot of kindness in the world, it's just not being recorded.

As much, it's just not being amplified as much, unfortunately, we're in a situation

where virality, you know, people want to go viral for all the wrong reasons.

And unfortunately, the power of the technology at the tips of people,

you know the power of the technology we have sort of appeals to our worst

and you know, our worst habits.

Hi, and welcome to Five Random Questions, the show where

every question is an adventure.

I'm your host Danny Brown, and each week I'll be asking my guests five questions

created by a random question Generator.

The guest has no idea what the questions are, and neither do I,

which means this could go either way.

So, sit back, relax, and let's dive into this week's episode.

Today's guest is Tony Doe, an audio content strategist with

years of experience on air, in production, and management for

multi format radio stations.

Most recently, it was Zobier 93.

7 FM.

He also curates, produces, and hosts the informative hybrid newsletter

stroke podcast, Into the Podverse, which explores challenges and opportunities for

podcasters from an African perspective.

Tony also hosts the Tony Doe podcast with radio podcasters as guests,

and UpGunners, a weekly review and tribute to his favorite football

team, and, in fairness, the only football team that matters, Arsenal.

Tony, welcome to the show, mate.

How are you doing?

Hey Danny, thanks.

I like how you put that in.

The only football club that matters.

I agree.

Exactly.

I mean, yeah, there's lots of football clubs out there, but when it comes to

beautiful football, it's only us though.

Nah, none like us.

None like us.

So how are we doing this fine Saturday morning?

Well, it's Saturday morning where I am.

What time is it where you are, mate?

It's a, it's Saturday evening here.

It's a 5 40 PM.

I do believe the Portugal match is on, but I just got in from

announcing with the family and kids, my son turned 10 during the week.

And this was the opportunity to kind of like hang out.

And he's also a national fan.

So that's also, and he's keeping tabs on all the players.

at the Euros.

So he's the one giving me updates about how well our

players are doing at the Euros.

So it's a fascinating time for both of us.

It is, and it's always interesting to see how players that come from clubs

that had a successful season, how they take that to their national teams.

And I know there's a lot of criticism at the moment for Gareth Southgate

and the way he's, he's playing Phil Ford and out of position.

Obviously he's not Arsenal's Man City, but he's playing them out of position.

So he's not been as good as he had an awesome season for City.

Then you've got Declan Rice, he's not, he's been asked to do something

different with Alexander Arnold next term.

So yeah, it's interesting to see how that transfers.

Yeah, it is.

It really is.

It's, it's a fascinating watch.

I'm not too keen on Gareth Southgate's coaching abilities.

I've never been.

And I think that with the array of players at his disposal, he really should be

doing a bit more and finding out what works, which players actually work.

I don't think the Euros is a place you'd start making some funny experiments.

And then sometimes I think he listens to the wrong people too.

So he really should maybe trust his guts a little more.

No, no,

no.

Yeah, I see some things pundits say and the next thing he's

applying that it doesn't work, they come back and attack him for it.

So I think he really needs to trust himself to know what he should do

with the kind of players he has.

Well, and they do say, I mean, who would be a football coach, right?

Or who'd be a football manager?

Because the amount of abuse and suggestions and everything that you get

with that, I know you get paid a lot of money, but I think money isn't everything.

If that kind of abuse is coming your way, I couldn't do that.

True.

I agree.

It's a difficult job, really.

It is.

It is.

And speaking of difficult jobs, we're going to give you

five random questions, mate.

So I hope you've brought your, your thinking head on and we'll get into that.

I'm going to bring up my random Generator and we'll have a

look at seeing what that is.

Okay, so let's bring it up.

You ready, Tony?

Yes,

I

am.

Okay, let's have a look.

Question one.

This is always a good funny thing to get kicking off.

What's the stupidest thing you've done on your own free will?

I would have to say is the most recent thing I've done.

I had this external hard drive about one terabytes, had all my tools, my

shows, my, even my movies and music.

And I clicked on create.

Quick format and I lost everything in less than 2 seconds.

So I still don't know how I did it.

I just know I moved my mouse and that happened.

I'm still trying to find out why.

Oh, my God.

How much stuff was on there?

That's a big amount of memory.

Of stuff a lot of stuff because when I scanned the hard drive to see

if I could recover the files It took almost four and a half hours just to

scan And right now the hard drive is actually being an expert who's trying to

help me retrieve and i'm being told it could take up To two weeks if i'm lucky.

So yes, I feel terrible.

There's so much a quick format can do.

So please be careful.

Next time you're right clicking on your drives on your windows PC, if you

use windows PC, avoid anything that says format, please just avoid that.

Now, is that all your stuff?

So like your podcasting, your radio, your media stuff, or was there some

personal stuff on there that now your wife, that was my workstation.

All right.

No, that was basically my workstation.

Fortunately, what I do is some media files that the rest of the family enjoys quick.

to extract those into a separate drive that they use, especially

the ones with a series and stuff.

But this was my work drive.

I took it with me because I was out of town for a while.

I was trying to transfer some files into a smaller USB and I didn't know when

I'd didn't pay attention to what I did.

So I haven't forgiven myself yet.

I think that's why I have the twitch in my right eye.

So

that'll be there until that two week period is over

and you can see that can be.

Yeah, I hope so, too, because I've really been trying not to think about

it and just acting like nothing happened

and not to not to pile on that.

And I apologize in advance, but at least it was your work stuff.

Because if that had any personal mementos and that that that's divorce

material right there, man, I'd be I'd be with your wife on this.

That's, you know, that's, that's as close as it gets.

I'm really hoping that it's just work stuff too.

But as I said, I have a habit of backing up personal stuff, so you know, I'm, I,

I've just not been thinking about it.

Yeah, just,

yeah.

Fingers crossed.

Fingers crossed for your map.

And a good lesson there, you know, automation is great and it can help

us and everything, but just, you know, look before you leap, I guess, when it

comes to, okay, yeah, I'll get that.

I'll clear that up now.

Good luck with that, man.

And also, listen, there's good luck.

I know I just got, you know, I've talked about divorce, etc.

That was a flippant comment.

Good luck with that.

Right.

Thanks, man.

All right.

Are we ready for number two, Tony?

Okay, let's go.

Let's have a look what's going to pop up.

Question number two.

Oh!

Now, I swear, listeners, this is one hundred percent random.

I mean, Tony saw me hit the random Generator button, but yeah.

So, okay, Tony, this is a perfect question as a follow up from question one.

Do you ever want to just walk away from technology?

Yes.

For as long as possible, find the, I was lucky where I was, there was that

sort of opportunity, you know, I could just get into a car, drive somewhere

far off and just stay into the river, Ethiopia and not think about anything,

but yes, I really felt like that.

And I think I'm really going to maybe spend the next week detoxing.

Yes, I want to.

And what's your like what, what, what's the area?

Because obviously the area you live in, you're in like a city, but what's it like?

How far do you have to drive or?

To get out of that to get into sort of just like, you know, good old wide

open land and get away from everything.

Okay, usually what I do is when I want to get away, I

get out of the state entirely.

And leaving Lagos state to Delta state is roughly 8 to 10

hours if the roads are good.

If the roads are horrible, that takes me like 12 to 13 hours.

And the first thing I experience when I'm out of Lagos is the serenity of it.

The other state, I think we, we cross about four states before I get to that

state and it's the serenity is the fact that everything is a little slower.

If people are getting up at 4 a.

m.

in Lagos to try to beat traffic, people are waking up at 7 o'clock and then

just taking walks to their offices and right there in like 10 minutes.

My sister stays in that state.

So.

While my mom when she passed away, that was also where she was buried.

So I used to take the kids on holiday in the last two years, we'd go there,

spend some time and just chill.

I mean, I came back, even my wife was like, you're looking a lot

better than when you left, but you were supposed to go work.

Because what I went to do actually was I have conversations with pastors in the

region over how they could use podcasting to amplify their messages because Delta

state is one of those regions where churches really have a lot of activity.

A lot of them pay for air time to run their shows on radio.

But I was showing them that there was another way they could actually

archive and make things happen.

So my sis is like one of the leading pastors in the community there.

She spoke to some of them and they came out, we had fun and there are

about five or six podcasts launched that I'm really excited about.

So I'll be going back again.

And then, you know, taking up a new set of new set of participants.

So it's it was fun.

I did it for like two days and then I ended up spending a whole month, you know,

out there just taking in the scenery.

I had a few things to attend to regarding my mom's estate, but

basically it was just chill.

So that helped until the accident.

And obviously you mentioned Lagos, that's in Nigeria, correct?

And for our listeners.

Yes, it is.

Yes, it is.

Southwest Nigeria.

So for our listeners that aren't maybe aware of Nigeria, the

African ecosystem you mentioned also the scenery, et cetera.

How different is the state that you go to from, you know, from Lagos, for

example, what's, what's the main appeal?

Lagos is basically the commercial nerve center of the entire country.

It was once the capital of the nation itself.

So as a lot that goes on in Lagos, and sometimes you're being told if you're

outside Lagos, if you're into tech, if you're into music, if you're into serious

business, if you're not doing it in Lagos, then you're probably missing out.

So there's, there's a chock hold.

There's a massive population in Lagos, about 20 million.

Upwards and counting.

And then lots of facilities here.

This is where all the main tech companies are nested, especially

the international companies as well.

This is where they all are.

And then they branch out to all the states.

So Lagos is the nerve center of the entire nation.

If it's not happening in Lagos, people are like, are you serious?

So, you know, that's basically it.

That's basically it.

And then everybody else is like, just like more laid back

because it's not as industrialized.

Maybe.

Yeah, and I'm hoping that that changes because the truth is a lot of

states have potential to actually grow when I was programs manager was a BFM.

It was in another state in a number of states in the southeast.

That's roughly 12 14 hours drive as well.

And There was a lot of businesses, a lot of commerce there, the ebos you

know, one of the major tribes of which I'm one are very industrial people.

So you find that there's a lot that they do there, but they have to

still ship that commerce to Lagos.

So there's a lot going on in all the states that could work if

there's a, how would I put it now?

It does, it takes political will and then it takes, does take some will on

the part of the people themselves to want to have that sort of what I call

it an autonomy, but it's sort of control over what their own ideals should be.

So there's plenty of potential.

When I went to Anambra then, and I saw the kind of, Personal

houses, people were building.

I was shocked.

I was like, the quality of these houses here are even better than the

quality of some of the houses in Lagos.

So there are pockets of individual brilliance in different places, but

people still feel that the cluster and the community for success

still has to be dictated by Lagos.

And I hope all that changes real soon because, I had to get out of Lagos

to really be like, you know what?

I want to see what else is happening out there, but it's

really just a mind state thing.

People in Lagos are always in a hurry when they really shouldn't be.

And I found out that, that, you know, the same amount of energy or even less

I could put out in another state and still achieve some measure of success.

It's the way I think it's the way I apply how I think.

So I'm really hoping all the states open up, of course.

Things that can improve that will be better roads, like I just said flying is

really expensive these days, but that's usually the fastest way to get around.

It's about 30 minutes, 45 minutes by air to each of these places.

But if the railroads are better done, if the roads are improved, if the

airports are better arranged and the local flights are more competitive,

then I should, you know, we really should be seeing these things happen

in all these other places as well.

And I know when we spoke, I used to have another podcast.

We were speaking in the green room before recording, and I used to have another

podcast you know, kindly a guest on.

And we spoke then about the infrastructure and, you know, the opportunities

for, you know, African podcasting.

But essentially, there's also a big opportunity for infrastructure, etc.

With the right approach,

the right approach really will be government policies, etc.

Meeting people's needs as well.

One of the things I've seen happen is there's a lot of fast thinking.

There's a lot of innovative thinking in terms of tech, in

terms of utilities and stuff.

But the gap between the technology and access for the regular

people is really Too wide.

There are certain policies that have to be in place to make sure that

people who need this technology and have access to this technology can

actually function within the economy.

We're still going through issues with power, for instance, and at

this stage, we really shouldn't be having those kind of discussions

all my life, nearly 46 years of it.

We have this phrase called.

Up NEPA.

And it's a phrase you make or you scream or you shout when power returns

after power has been out for a bit.

All my kids know what that phrase is.

It's a bit embarrassing these days.

I've well, maybe power has improved a bit in my neighborhood,

but it's also more expensive.

So there are a lot of factors, economic, social socioeconomic and government

policy wise that need to find a way to.

Come together and make things work their workshops.

I see a lot of workshops.

I see a lot of seminars, government led, private infrastructure led.

So there's a lot of talk.

I don't see as much action, you know, matching up, but yes, government

policies have to meet the people where they are so that access to these

technologies really shouldn't be luxury.

No, I hear you.

I know.

Not so much here.

I mean, we're, we're fairly lucky, but we live in a little village

and it can be a bit sketchy for transportation and all that kind of stuff.

So I hear you on a smaller scale from this end, obviously.

Alrighty.

So question number three, let's hope it's not another technology one

because that was, as I mentioned, that was one hundred percent random.

So let's hit this next question Generator.

Okay.

So Tony, question number three, if you were home on a rainy Sunday afternoon.

What movie would you most want to see on television?

That's happened a lot.

It will be classic.

It would be a classic.

And it's going to be funny when I mention it because it turned out

to be one of my favorite movies.

I'll say singing in the rain.

Gene Kelly.

Yes.

Singing in the rain.

Gene

Kelly.

Yeah.

I saw it again recently.

There had been an improvement on the, on the visuals.

So it was digitally, digitally improved and it was just lovely.

Introduced it to the family.

My wife fell in love with it too.

So it was great.

Saw it a long time ago on British television when I was a kid.

And then it ended up on cassette somehow.

My mom brought it from one of her trips and I watched it till the tape.

Yes, I did.

So being able to see it again, you know, digitally improved.

It was, it was exciting and I had to get the family to see too.

So yes, maybe, yeah, singing in the rain,

do you ever see that movie?

I can't remember what it was called.

But had Gene Kelly in it as well.

And I love Gene Kelly.

We used to watch like when I was a kid, my parents would always

watch, you know, old movie.

Well, there were less older than the old movies for me as a kid,

like five, six year old boy.

But we used to watch a lot of Gene Kelly movies and there was one that

I remember where he did a dance routine with Jerry from Tom and Jerry.

Really?

Yeah.

So they'd animated it and it was like so ahead of its time for

mixing animation and live action.

Yeah.

And I can't remember if Tom was involved too, but Jerry was there and they

did a whole dance routine and Gene Kelly was doing his like his kicks

that he does and swinging around and.

Jerry is ducking underneath you.

It's amazing.

It's so, so good.

Yeah.

Google that.

Show it to your kids.

I will.

I will.

Because it's just amazing.

So why that move in particular?

All of the classics that you could maybe pick?

Why?

Why that one do you think?

I grew up watching a lot of classics and somehow I

found myself doing that again.

I'm doing a James Bond run.

All over again.

When I started watching James Bond as a kid Roger Moore was like

everybody's favorite and he was the one more prominent on the screen.

So I was excited to see him.

And then there were arguments then as a kid that notion was

was the much better James Bond.

And then Timothy Dalton came and everybody was like, nah, he's too dark.

It's not working.

And Pierce Brosnan came and yeah, I was like, okay, not too bad.

I liked Craig.

Because he was different from everyone else, but seemed to

have a bit of what Sean had.

So I just told myself, you know what?

Do this for yourself.

Leave all the pundits alone, sit down and start watching

everybody from the very beginning.

So I started again.

I started with Dr.

No.

I've done From Russia with Love.

I'm about to do Goldfinger and If it wasn't singing in the rain, it'd

probably be a James Bond movie, but I'm not sure which one yet because

right now it's just brand new for me.

And if it's not singing in the rain I have a thing for coming to America.

There was a time I, I could actually lip sync the entire movie.

So yeah, if it's not singing in the rain, then it's coming to America.

That was an awesome movie.

Do you ever watch, I wasn't so sold on the second one, the sequel.

Well, what about you?

No, I wasn't either.

I wasn't either.

I don't think it was necessary.

The only thing I looked out for doors to see how well put those

who survived, you know, looked.

So it was kind of nice to see James Earl Jones again.

Still still 40 with that smile of his John Amos really aged.

It was just good to see Eddie Murphy do something again.

I don't know.

I don't know what it is about him, but.

I actually find myself looking forward to Beverly Hills Cop, Axel F.

I like the fact that he can still bring something old, make it his, and

we'll still love him for it, even if we don't enjoy the entire package,

but we will love Eddie Murphy in it.

So I think that worked for me.

Coming to America was basically just seeing Eddie again, and

just loving Eddie, you know.

For what he did, of course, you know, scene two, I had to bring

back one for the kids to understand, you know, what really happened.

And then there was a lot more in one, especially with the multiple

roles that Eddie played that they didn't think, you know, he was like,

Oh, you mean Eddie Murphy used to do all this before these new cats?

I'm like, yes.

He used to, he set the pace,

the, the barber character in the first movie.

Oh, it was

amazing.

Amazing.

And that blew.

I knew he did a lot of characters, but that blew me away when I found

out that was actually Eddie Murphy because I thought it was someone else.

And then obviously the credits come up and I thought, wow.

So, so obviously, so we hear it here.

Tony loves the rain when he's got these long drives from

Lagos out to another state.

He loves it raining outside so he can start singing Gene Kelly songs.

Singing

in the rain, just singing in the rain.

So we're now up to almost 80%.

We're getting through this like the old First We Feast show.

Okay, so let's bring up question number four.

Let's hit that random Generator, Tony, and see where we go with this one.

Ooh, that is an interesting one.

Okay, Tony, question four.

If you had unlimited resources, how would you live your life?

I think I have a bit of a voyager in me.

So I would travel.

As often as I can, I would go to places, learn new things, eat new

food, and just keep traveling.

I think I have that in me.

Yeah, I'll travel, travel the world.

What would be your top three places, do you think?

It will be somewhere in the Caribbean's first of

all, I might do Jamaica first.

But there are also countries that I think I might be interested

in, like Guyana, Barbados.

I have a friend in Barbados, so I'm hoping he would have a reason

to invite me over, but I will do the Caribbean's because of the.

Of the connections with the motherland, kind of I'm curious to know how some

of our cultures and languages were able to evolve over the years from

the slave trade era to now and you know, I used to hear a lot of stories

because my mom, my mom traveled a lot, so I'd hear stories about how some

languages exist as So I'm curious.

Other languages that are very similar to the languages we speak here.

So I'd like to like, see you know, how that happened and how they keep up with

it and how people are able to live with a lot less, you know, it's almost as if

that people who live in those places and who find joy in the little things are not

bothered with the kind of things those of us exposed to too much technology,

you know, are bothered with and the air, the water, the food, the people.

Okay.

Yeah, I, I would really love to travel the world.

And would you, if you had unlimited resources, obviously

money's going to come into that.

Would you buy any steak in Arsenal?

Oh, definitely.

That's, that's a problem.

In fact, we've been having a conversation in the family.

The kids want to go see the stadium.

So I'm really hoping I can make that work as soon as possible.

Definitely.

And if I can get, you know, Joey to, you know, be in the academy as early

as possible, I will get him up there.

Definitely.

No, that's, that's a top priority.

It is.

Awesome.

And then fingers crossed you can get out to it because it looks, I've never been

myself, but it looks an amazing stadium.

That's one of my bucket lists is to get to the new Emirates.

It does.

I had my niece go visit, but she's not an Arsenal fan.

She's a Chelsea fan.

I got

to work on that one.

Okay.

She's, she's, she's beyond me now.

I can't, I can't do anything about that.

She got that from, you know, my mom who was a Chelsea fan too.

So

You're allowed one, a loud one in the family.

We are.

Okay, Tony, we're almost in the home, well, we are in the home

straight, let me correct myself.

We're coming up to question number five, you ready to take this one out, mate?

Okay.

All right, let's see what we got.

Okay, I like this and I think I know the answer, but I'm

going to ask you anyway, mate.

Are you, question number five, are you willing to give the shirt on your

back to someone who needs it the most?

Definitely.

Yes.

Yes.

I've been in situations where I've had to do that.

I've also been in situations where people have done that for

me, and it's a definite yes.

It's not, it's, it's, it's a shirt, you know, it's a shirt and so what

you really needs it then why not?

Yes, it's the simplest form of kindness.

You can actually even exhibit.

I, I think my body's not too bad.

I have a dad, but, so I can walk around a bit without a shit,

without feeling too embarrassed.

I've earned it, so, yeah.

Yeah, I'm wondering, do you feel we, we talked about technology,

obviously, earlier in the episode.

Do you feel that technology is maybe reducing people willing to do that,

or do you think that we're only seeing more of the worst behaviour in people

and there's still amazing people out there, we just, because clicks on

social media are driven by, you know, negativity do you feel that's something

that's an issue overall in the world, or do you think there's still kindness

in the world, like, majorly kindness?

I think there's a lot of kindness in the world.

It's just not being recorded as much.

It's just not being amplified as much.

Unfortunately, we're in a situation where virality, you know, people want

to go viral for all the wrong reasons.

And unfortunately, the The power of the technology at the tips of people,

you know the power of the technology we have sort of appeals to our worst

and, you know, our worst habits.

I'm hoping that can change over time.

So I think it's one step at a time.

I think people who do good should really start amplifying the good they do.

There's a lot of modesty and humility until it gets lost in conversations.

For instance I'm dealing with a challenge here in Nigeria.

Every ridiculous utterance or every seemingly stupid point of view is

quickly amplified as a podcast.

And then we see like 30 second clips of talking heads, so called influencers,

celebrities making irrational comments.

And, you know, people are like, go check out the rest of the Episode and all

that, and for a lot of people who don't know what podcasting is about, that is

the introduction to what podcasting is.

So I end up having to encounter people on timelines who are like,

Oh, you know, podcasts are the worst.

We really should do something about the podcasting industry.

And I'm like, excuse me, what you saw.

Was a clip of somebody expressing himself or herself, speaking what

in their own terms is their truth.

The only thing is they did it using a platform and you discovered

that platform via social media, which is a platform on its own.

You do recognize that these are the kind of things that the platform you're on.

Chooses to amplify most times it doesn't mean that represents

everything we do in the space.

So there's an opportunity for me and hopefully, you know, some others, if

people are willing to listen to educate on the good things that happen in podcasts.

One of the things I enjoy doing with my newsletter is going out of my

way to look for stories of people doing incredible things and then

talking about them on podcasts.

I want people to know that these are the stories that exist.

Anywhere else in the world, Dave Jackson reacted one of those days

where he was like, he doesn't know where Tony finds his stories, but

this is the one reason he subscribes to the, you know, to the newsletter.

And I felt that, and that's also what I want to do with the local podcasters here.

I'm encouraging a lot of them.

Don't be afraid to amplify what you're talking about.

If it makes sense, let me know, too.

I will tell the world on your behalf if you're too scared.

So.

You know, yes, but it's a tool at the end of the day.

Technology is a tool.

How do you use it?

How are we using it?

Choosing to use it.

So, you know, for me I mean, I'm talking to you how many rivers away?

And this is what technology has done for me.

I don't think there's any other way we could have met if it wasn't for one, the

fact that we both love podcasting and two, we found each other on social media.

So there are good things to this.

Let's just keep amplifying those kinds of stories.

And over time you know, those negative ones will be suppressed.

And I think that's the important thing, like you mentioned there is

also a lot of negativity and a lot of lies and, you know, alternative

facts of certain politician in the U.

S.

like to call it and it's, it is important to get both sides and yeah, we might

not agree with what's being said, but it's important to make sure that that's

countered with other opinions and then, you know, Hopefully educate people so

they can make educated guesses, education, educated decisions around what they

should be looking and listening to, etc.

So I think that's a great example of, you know, what technology can and can't do.

But yeah, I like that.

I like that a lot.

So speaking of, I've put you through the ringer here.

That's been an interesting five questions that went here

and there and there and there.

So I enjoyed this episode a lot, mate.

In fairness to my guests, I always allow, allow, that's a horrible word, it's

like putting me up as a dictator, you, you can ask me one question, I always

love having my guests ask me one random question to balance the, the, the ratio

of the question, so, Mr Tony Doe, what's your random question for my, myself?

My random question is Is the Acolyte really a good series?

It's it's different.

I, I enjoy it.

I, I, I pause there because it's funny.

I was like I think a couple of, on the first episode with my guest Fuzz,

Fuzz Martin, we were on about Star Wars and the Acolyte, et cetera.

So it just made me pause there because I was thinking back

to that, that conversation.

I enjoy the Acolyte.

It's, it is very different.

It's a more.

paced story so it's not, you have to realistically invest yourself into it

being slow, slow build up and the pacing can be off a bit because the episodes,

the first two episodes were pretty short like 30 minutes, less than 30 minutes.

I think the most recent one, episode four, was only, if you take out the intro

and the outro credits and that, it was only 19 minutes long, which is crazy.

Woah.

The third one was really good, my favourite so far, but it's getting

a lot of hate online and I, I feel, I'm a, I'm an original Star Wars fan.

I went to see the first movie as a boy in 1978 in the UK, so I've grown

up with Star Wars and I'm a firm believer that, It's for everyone.

And if you like some parts, you like that.

If you don't like some parts, you don't like that.

But the amount of hate that is seen on a pure vitriol goes back to your point that

people have a platform and a voice and they use that to put down where they can.

That clip's not for everyone, but I enjoy it.

I think it's doing a good job of expanding the lore behind the force,

but that's also what's upsetting people.

Oh, well, you can't do that because the force has been around for centuries.

Blah, blah.

Don't call it something else.

So, yeah, I would.

If you enjoy Star Wars and you enjoy.

Storytelling that builds.

Let me clarify that.

Storytelling builds because it does need a bit more investment.

I feel you'd enjoy The Acolyte.

It's not super loads of action so far.

Maybe it will be in the second half of the series, but I, I would.

I would recommend it.

I'll check it out as soon as I can.

I just came off Bad Batch.

So, you know, I'm trying to give myself some time, you know, soaking it all in.

I really, really enjoyed Bad Batch.

I did.

I did.

Yeah, Bad Batch.

I love Bad Batch.

That was Star Wars at its best.

I feel like characters you really cared for, even though they're animated, you

seriously cared for the characters.

Great storytelling.

And it closed really well.

I thought the finale, really.

Yeah.

closed it.

Beautiful.

What's the best part of it?

It'll be interesting to see if Omega pops up down the

line in live action, maybe, or any of the Bad Batch guys.

I just hope they won't.

Nah, let them leave it that way.

I kind of like it.

I don't know, because how would the real life versions really look?

Let's not forget that each and every one of them is being

voiced by the same person.

That is true.

Yeah.

So that's, that's insane.

That's insane.

And, you know, I really, I'm trying to study his style and, you know,

because even though it's the same voices, there's still a nuance to

each and every one of the characters.

And that's, that's a very rare skill.

You know, you sound the same, but.

You're pulling your words in a different way to help us understand that it is

really someone else, you know, talking.

So it was a great production, great cast, great talent.

It was amazing.

And speaking of amazing, Tony, you have been an amazing guest, my friend.

Always enjoy chatting to you.

For people that want to check out your podcast, what you do in media,

the newsletter, anything at all to do with Tony Doe, where's the best place

to connect, find you online, etc.

I think I'm busy on LinkedIn.

I'm busy on LinkedIn and anywhere else these days.

I don't know if it's an age thing, but maybe I sort of find it hard to cope

with the pace of Twitter these days.

And Facebook got on my nerves, so I left them alone.

So Yeah, LinkedIn Tony Doe or Tony Onwuchekwa, if you search

for Into the Podverse on LinkedIn, it should pop up by name as well.

So and the newsletter is Into the Podverse, it's available on Substack.

If you type in Into the Podverse with Tony Doe, you will see the podcast pop

up, you will see the newsletter pop up.

As well, so yeah, and then if you subscribe, you know,

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and space from an African perspective, most times, but we're global now.

So, you know, I speak to as many people as I can.

And yes, Danny's on the podcast as well.

So I'm going to pull up some old episodes during the week to remind people that

Danny has popped into the podcast too.

I have, and I appreciate that.

And I would, yeah, I would recommend much like Dave Jackson, who's a solid guy.

He knows what he's talking about when it comes to podcasting.

I would highly recommend subscribing to Tony's newsletter.

As very informative as Tony mentions.

A lot from the African perspective, which is awesome because it does

educate the rest of the world on a space that we rarely hear about,

but it's a fantastic resource.

So I highly recommend that and I will obviously put the links to

all of that in the show notes.

So whatever app you're listening on, be sure to check the show notes.

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