Welcome to the ADHD Women's Wellbeing Podcast.
Kate Moore YoussefI'm Kate Moore Youssef and I'm a wellbeing and lifestyle coach, EFT practitioner, mum to four kids and passionate about helping more women to understand and accept their amazing ADHD brains.
Kate Moore YoussefAfter speaking to many women just like me and probably you, I know there is a need for more health and lifestyle support for women newly diagnosed with adhd.
Kate Moore YoussefIn these conversations, you'll learn from insightful guests, hear new findings, and discover powerful perspectives and lifestyle tools to enable you to live your most fulfilled, calm and purposeful life wherever you are on your ADHD journey.
Kate Moore YoussefHere's today's episode.
Kate Moore YoussefHi everyone.
Kate Moore YoussefWelcome to a compilation episode.
Kate Moore YoussefI'm doing a few of these over the summer and I am handpicking some of my favorite guests and the conversation, which I know really resonated with you guys, but also with me and combining them together to help give you an even more elevated episode, even more wisdom and insights and bringing guests which I know have been hugely beneficial for many of you and today is no different.
Kate Moore YoussefI'm absolutely delighted to bring to you a compilation episode with Caroline Britton and Catherine Morgan.
Kate Moore YoussefNow, Caroline and Catherine are actually friends.
Kate Moore YoussefThey've done some work together, which is one of the reasons why I wanted to bring them together on this episode.
Kate Moore YoussefAnd I'll introduce, introduce Catherine first.
Kate Moore YoussefNow, Catherine is a multi award winning qualified financial coach advisor.
Kate Moore YoussefShe's also a financial abuse specialist, inherited family trauma healer and financial therapist who specializes in helping women feel more deserving of holding money through somatic, therapeutic and practical tools.
Kate Moore YoussefAnd Catherine is on a mission to reduce financial anxiety and increase financial empowerment and resilience for 1 million people worldwide.
Kate Moore YoussefNow, Catherine has also been diagnosed with ADHD.
Kate Moore YoussefShe has a child with ADHD.
Kate Moore YoussefAnd the combination of all of this, of understanding the difficulty sometimes that many neurodivergent people can feel with earning money, holding money, asking for more money and feeling worthy and deserving of earning an abundant salary.
Kate Moore YoussefSo, so many nuanced layers to this and we really delve into this with Catherine.
Kate Moore YoussefI'm absolutely delighted to share this conversation with you.
Kate Moore YoussefTo compound this fantastic sort of energetic message.
Kate Moore YoussefAnd when we understand the beliefs around money and the financial situations that we find ourselves in, my amazing friend Caroline Britton is the person for that.
Kate Moore YoussefI've known Caroline for probably nearly five years now.
Kate Moore YoussefCaroline's been pivotal in the evolution and the growth of my, I guess probably my life, my business.
Kate Moore YoussefThe way I have constantly sort of upleveled and stepped into the fear and broken down new boundaries and had to sort of look into those beliefs that are holding me back.
Kate Moore YoussefAnd Caroline's been with me every step of the way.
Kate Moore YoussefShe's the most incredible coach, and she works more as, like, a gifted energy worker.
Kate Moore YoussefShe's a mentor to many, and she guides and is frequently described as a magic maker by those who work with her.
Kate Moore YoussefAnd I can really sort of resonate with that.
Kate Moore YoussefShe really does weave something quite different to any coaches I've ever worked with.
Kate Moore YoussefAnd her innate gifts are really unlocking people's connection, their potential and the power.
Kate Moore YoussefAnd I know that she has transformed many, many people's lives through this.
Kate Moore YoussefAnd it's through her, I've really understood about energy and the energy work and really leaning into that change our beliefs and our mindsets and our thoughts and our emotions.
Kate Moore YoussefSo I'm delighted to bring this kind of combination together.
Kate Moore YoussefAnd so first, let's hear from Catherine Morgan.
Catherine MorganAnd when women have money, we do incredible.
Catherine MorganI mean, like, just the statistics around this.
Catherine MorganWomen, when they invest, they invest in ethical investments, ethical investments on the stock market.
Catherine MorganThey don't try and time the markets.
Catherine MorganThey're in the markets for longer.
Catherine MorganThey're investing in companies that are supportive, you know, not some of the sin stocks like tobacco and pornography companies and arms manufacturing companies.
Catherine MorganThey do good in the world, right?
Catherine MorganSo the more women that can have money and hold money means that we get to live in a better world.
Catherine MorganWe get to live almost enriched life.
Catherine MorganAnd, you know, you can probably tell from my just my tone of voice right now, I feel so empowered to.
Catherine MorganTo help everyone to feel like they deserve.
Catherine MorganThey deserve this, right?
Catherine MorganYou deserve wealth in your life, not being a number in your bank account.
Catherine MorganYou deserve this, and you deserve this for yourself and for every single future generation ahead of us.
Kate Moore YoussefSo how can we change this narrative if someone's listening right now and they are saying, yes, I'm the first generation in my family who is striving for wealth and to hold on to wealth and to recognize, you know, through my adhd, I want to feel more, like you say, financially resilient.
Kate Moore YoussefI want to prioritize my financial wellbeing.
Kate Moore YoussefI want to ensure that I'm not being impulsive, I'm not spending overspending.
Kate Moore YoussefI'm understanding my wealth and my money, and I'm not shutting things down and pretending my bank account doesn't exist.
Kate Moore YoussefWhere would you start?
Kate Moore YoussefLike, it feels overwhelming to get to that place.
Kate Moore YoussefLike, where would you start for someone, like, what's the beginning of their journey?
Catherine MorganSo There's a few different ways to do this, and I know that you're an EFT practitioner as well.
Catherine MorganAnd so one of the things I love to do is to first of all, try and identify a core money belief.
Catherine MorganAnd I like to do that in the body, because when the logical mind tries to take over with this conversation, then we often end up with very different core sentences.
Catherine MorganAs inherited family trauma practitioner as well, we often will look at the demographics right back through the lineage of the family history.
Catherine MorganSo we actually look at a core belief sentence, which is actually gathered by just listening to your language, things that you're saying about money.
Catherine MorganAnd so you could simply take, for example, what is the worst fear that you have about money?
Catherine MorganAnd then what you do from that point is you then dive a little bit deeper into what is the worst thing about that.
Catherine MorganThey might.
Catherine MorganI might, right?
Catherine MorganAnd you'll get statements like, you know, I might be abandoned, or I might not be accepted, or I might not survive, or I might let you.
Catherine MorganI might let my partner down.
Catherine MorganYou know, I might let my clients down.
Catherine MorganYou'll get into some more depth around those core sentences.
Catherine MorganAnd in the inherited family trauma space, we actually look at who was abandoned, who wasn't accepted.
Catherine MorganAnd that, for me, is a really incredibly powerful place to start, because a lot of the shame and the guilt that we carry around money doesn't even belong to us.
Catherine MorganIt literally has been handed down through the generations.
Catherine MorganAnd when you can do a somatic practice of releasing some of that shame and the energy that sits around that shame, it's the most liberating experience, because no longer are you attaching that sense of identity, that past identity to yourself.
Catherine MorganAnd it enables you to unlock what I would call more of an expansive energy.
Catherine MorganSo rather than feeling like we've been contracted, we are able to step into this place of expansion.
Caroline BrittonNow.
Catherine MorganI'm a really big believer in.
Catherine MorganWe can spend many hours, many investments, working on healing the past.
Catherine MorganAnd we also, at the same time, get to work on creating an energy that sits around where we are right now in the present moment and where we are in the future.
Catherine MorganNow, a lot of people with ADHD in particular, or if for neurodivergence, can struggle with future work because, well, it's all about today.
Catherine MorganIt's living in the moment.
Catherine MorganIt's, you know, it's that impulse.
Catherine MorganSo one of the things, one of the practices that I like to experience is to use heart breathing.
Catherine MorganAnd I'll literally.
Catherine MorganAnd I do this every single day, sometimes several times a day.
Catherine MorganAnd I'll just drop down my eyes and I'll place my hands over my heart.
Catherine MorganI'll connect into the heart's energy, which is the most powerful energy in your whole system.
Catherine MorganAnd I will just bring in a memory of a time when I felt love, appreciation or gratitude.
Catherine MorganAnd I bring in that memory.
Catherine MorganAnd it could be a past memory, it could be a memory of a celebration.
Catherine MorganIt could just be in that moment, in that very moment of being consciously aware of I'm here today, this is who I am.
Catherine MorganAnd standing in that really powerful place and I feel all of that emotion.
Catherine MorganI imagine it's radiating around my entire body.
Catherine MorganYou know, you can do a lot of immersive work with this exercise.
Catherine MorganAnd then I use that energy and I ask myself a question.
Catherine MorganAnd the question is, and you can be quite specific, what is required of me when it comes to my finances today?
Catherine MorganWhat is required of me and what it enables you to do is to really draw on the energy of that present moment.
Catherine MorganAnd it also enables you to then start thinking about what energetically is something that is going to create movement.
Catherine MorganAnd for me, movement is really helpful in the context of money management, especially for adhd, because the general traditional budgeting systems don't work.
Catherine MorganEven some of the apps and things that you can use to automate budgeting and savings still don't sometimes work.
Catherine MorganBut when we come from a place of movement and expansion rather than masculine goal planning, things that are 10 years, you know, where do you see yourself in 10 years time?
Catherine MorganDifficult for the brain to grapple around this.
Catherine MorganSo when you connect into the body, you connect into today and you are in a position where you've closed off anything that feels energetically contracting or able to drop into the expansion work, you feel good, your nervous system feels regulated, and then you can come from a place of right, what movement do I want to create around my finances today in this moment?
Catherine MorganAnd it just gets rid of all of the needs, the shoulding energy, the waiting energy that can often be associated with adhd.
Catherine MorganAnd I just think that's such a unique and very different way of looking at finances and managing finances.
Catherine MorganNot looking at numbers, not looking at spreadsheets, you don't need to do any of those things.
Catherine MorganYou can outsource those to the bookkeepers and the accountants that have so much joy in doing those things and then get to focus your work on how do I want to feel, how can I expand this into the future, still do some healing work, right?
Catherine MorganBut sometimes we do too much healing work and we can get addicted to that loop, that cycle.
Catherine MorganSo it's really bringing it into the energy of today.
Kate Moore YoussefAnd now let's hear from Caroline Britton.
Caroline BrittonWe have to work out what it is that suits us and take absolute responsibility.
Caroline BrittonAnd another thing is that this isn't a nice to have.
Caroline BrittonThis is an absolute prerequisite for functioning to the best of your ability.
Caroline BrittonAnd if you want to get more clarity and you want to access more guidance, you have to find and prioritize your modality for doing that.
Caroline BrittonAnd I know a lot of us say we don't have time, but you'd be amazed how you can find it if you prioritize.
Caroline BrittonAnd even if that's going and lying on your bed for five minutes with your phone off, I don't mind what it is, but what you want to be saying to the universe is I'm intentional about creating space to be guided to receive information from a balanced place.
Caroline BrittonAnd this is a game changer.
Caroline BrittonLike you want to know the secret to me creating seven figures in my business is that I every day I will connect, I will listen and I'll create some silence and then I will move from that place.
Caroline BrittonLike that's a non negotiable for me.
Caroline BrittonAnd the first thing I do, I mean I haven't even looked at my to do list.
Caroline BrittonI've, I've meditated and I've connected in and I've journaled and I've been for a big walk.
Caroline BrittonI haven't looked at my to do list and it's.
Caroline BrittonWhat time is it now?
Caroline BrittonIt's half 11.
Caroline BrittonSo that's the thing is like we have to, I promise your listeners that there is clarity, wisdom, love, peace, information that's trying to get through to them.
Caroline BrittonBut you've got to create the space and you've got to create the silence at some point in your day to be able to access it.
Caroline BrittonAnd if you can do that and start with five minutes a day, it's a game changer.
Kate Moore YoussefAbsolutely.
Kate Moore YoussefAnd it's being intentional, isn't it?
Kate Moore YoussefBecause like you say, we can just be reactive all day and then another day goes.
Kate Moore YoussefBut you know, things don't change until we make that decision.
Kate Moore YoussefAnd yes, we can sort of have a victim like mentality of this happened to me and that happened to me and this person.
Kate Moore YoussefBut essentially we, we have to make that change and we have to make a decision when that ends and this new version of our life begins.
Kate Moore YoussefAnd what we want, and we want what we want to be calling in and being open to, and I say this a lot to my clients, is like, well, what are you choosing?
Kate Moore YoussefWhat are you choosing?
Kate Moore YoussefLike, choose.
Kate Moore YoussefPrioritize your wellbeing.
Kate Moore YoussefYou know, we hear huge amounts of sort of cyclical burnout in the neurodivergent community because we have these sensitive nervous systems where empaths, we are absorbing so much from so many different people and we don't like to say no.
Kate Moore YoussefAnd we're people pleasers and perfectionists.
Kate Moore YoussefAnd of course I'm generalizing in lots of different ways, but this is the themes that I'm.
Kate Moore YoussefI'm hearing.
Kate Moore YoussefAnd we don't think we're enough.
Kate Moore YoussefSo we're.
Caroline BrittonAre we going to worthy?
Caroline BrittonThat's a big.
Caroline BrittonI'm not worthy of prioritizing that.
Caroline BrittonI'm not worthy of feeling that good.
Caroline BrittonLike, and you are worthy.
Caroline BrittonAnd if you believe you were worthy, how might you show up differently for yourself?
Kate Moore YoussefYeah.
Kate Moore YoussefAnd so I would love to say to anyone is like, where are you prioritizing this space in this time?
Kate Moore YoussefBecause when we get that, that's when we hear the intuitive guidance and the wisdom that whatever you want to believe, whether that's just you having some space to hear your.
Kate Moore YoussefThe clarity, I think, you know, you said, or we're open to guidance because I genuinely believe that our community is very intuitive.
Kate Moore YoussefAnd I've run programs based on the intuition and the inner wisdom and things that we can tune into for BE as being empaths.
Kate Moore YoussefAnd instead of on the negative side of being an empath, where we feel drained and exhausted and burnt out, we unfortunately have, you know, lots of sort of chronic health conditions.
Kate Moore YoussefHow can we use this intuitive way of being to help us in our careers, in our families and our relationships, tuning out all the noise and actually tuning back into ourselves.
Kate Moore YoussefAnd I know that you, you work so beautifully like this.
Kate Moore YoussefI think you really, really understand sort of this divergent brain.
Kate Moore YoussefHow can someone, if someone's listening right now and they are thinking like, I'm so at the beginning of my journey, almost feels overwhelming, like I haven't got five years.
Kate Moore YoussefAnd I remember when first starting to work with you, I mean, I didn't know any of this was coming, but I did want a quick fix and I did want something like click my fingers a big change.
Kate Moore YoussefI want to find my purpose.
Kate Moore YoussefI was like, I'm ready.
Kate Moore YoussefAnd that purpose didn't come immediately.
Kate Moore YoussefThere was lots of U turns and bends and detours.
Kate Moore YoussefHow can you help someone find that patience when they do want some big change?
Caroline BrittonOne of the things I would do Is I would have something that I say out loud every day, which is like, universe, please make everything conspire in my favor to make my dreams come true and bring me clarity into my reality today.
Caroline BrittonSo we have something like that.
Caroline BrittonAnd I'd write it on this.
Caroline BrittonI.
Caroline BrittonI do this.
Caroline BrittonI get my clients to do it.
Caroline BrittonI write it on a book, like a.
Caroline BrittonA four pad.
Caroline BrittonI have it open on my drawer so I see it many, many times a day.
Caroline BrittonAnd then what I do underneath it is I write 1 to 21 for 21 days.
Caroline BrittonAnd every day I say that statement maybe at least three times, but I would say probably eight, nine, ten times a day.
Caroline BrittonThis is the key.
Caroline BrittonEvery single day, I want you to make a note of any magic or any clarity that you've got that day.
Caroline BrittonIt should take you 20 seconds.
Caroline BrittonSo if you go in my notebook, you'll see.
Caroline BrittonAnd then I do three weeks, and then I start again.
Caroline BrittonSomething incredible happens where your intention goes.
Caroline BrittonIt's like that energy grows.
Caroline BrittonSomething happens like everything is through our, like, the lens of how we perceive things.
Caroline BrittonSo if you're all of a sudden looking for clarity or looking for do it from abundance, or looking for wisdom or looking for magic, you'll start seeing it.
Caroline BrittonAs you collate evidence, within three weeks, things will have changed.
Caroline BrittonHonestly, it's quite remarkable.
Caroline BrittonSo if you're right at the beginning of your journey, try that.
Caroline BrittonHumor me.
Caroline BrittonWrite that statement down, read it throughout the day, and just at the end of each day, just make a note.
Caroline BrittonThat's one thing to do.
Kate Moore YoussefWhat?
Kate Moore YoussefCan you just repeat the statement just in case people just need to write that down?
Caroline BrittonMy statement is slightly different than the one I gave you because you wanted something around clarity.
Caroline BrittonBut this is my statement.
Caroline BrittonI say.
Caroline BrittonI say universe, everything is conspiring in my favor to make my dreams a reality.
Caroline BrittonI request a clear sign in my reality.
Caroline BrittonToday.
Caroline BrittonI am open.
Caroline BrittonI am ready, I am receiving.
Caroline BrittonThank you.
Caroline BrittonI say that every day.
Caroline BrittonI gave you a slightly different version because you wanted one around clarity.
Caroline BrittonThat's what I do.
Caroline BrittonAnd every single day I make a note and it's like magic, magic, magic, magic, magic.
Caroline BrittonYou will be amazed.
Caroline BrittonBut we want to build that belief by collating evidence, and that's going to be a game changer.
Caroline BrittonSo that's where I would start.
Kate Moore YoussefYeah, I mean, what you said, then we need to collate evidence.
Kate Moore YoussefThat's our sort of human, animalistic brain of just being like, okay, well, I'm not going to believe it until I see it.
Kate Moore YoussefAnd very hard, you Know, that's when we kind of have that difficulty, because if we can't see it, then it's not real and we don't think it's working.
Kate Moore YoussefSo these little tiny signs of just maybe a lovely conversation bumping into a friend, you know, unexpectedly, like you say, hearing a song, numbers, a book, just kind of like presenting itself, like, these are the tiny little things.
Kate Moore YoussefBecause it is the breadcrumbs, isn't it?
Kate Moore YoussefIt's these little tiny shifts and that, you know, going back to the beginning of our conversation, when we talk about energy work, that is the shift in energy.
Kate Moore YoussefIt's not this huge, kind of like overnight, oh, my God, massive epiphany.
Kate Moore YoussefWe're in it for the long haul.
Kate Moore YoussefI'm presuming that you know that for the rest of your life you're going to be doing this work.
Caroline BrittonAnd I know that if I stop doing it and have periods where I'm not cleaning up my energy and watching my beliefs and my thoughts, that's mirrored in my external reality.
Caroline BrittonAnd often when we're feeling better and things are going great, we stop.
Caroline BrittonI see this a lot with clients.
Caroline BrittonYou've got to find a way to make it manageable for you so that you can continue to devote yourself to it.
Caroline BrittonAnd I tell you what, it is such a.
Caroline BrittonThere is such a joy when you realize, oh, my goodness, by doing this work, it's working.
Caroline BrittonLike clients say to me, it's working.
Caroline BrittonYes, of course it is.
Caroline BrittonAnd it starts building confidence.
Caroline BrittonBut what happens is we have been programmed to, first of all, like, what you think, what you think, what do you think?
Caroline BrittonAnd I always say to my children, what you feel?
Caroline BrittonHow do you feel?
Caroline BrittonI want to teach them that the feeling leads, and then we can use all the brilliant stuff that we have with the brain to get built.
Caroline BrittonI won't say, what do you think about that?
Caroline BrittonI'll say, what do you feel about that?
Caroline BrittonYou get a very different answer from your children.
Caroline BrittonYou also get.
Caroline BrittonYou can ask me, what do I think about a problem in my life or making a decision.
Caroline BrittonI say, I think I'm stressed.
Caroline BrittonI don't know, Kate.
Caroline BrittonI'm not sure.
Caroline BrittonI'm worried.
Caroline BrittonLike, what if I'm wrong?
Caroline BrittonWhat do you feel?
Caroline BrittonI feel like it's right.
Caroline BrittonVery different answers.
Caroline BrittonSo it's.
Caroline BrittonHaving the ability to be able to do that is to.
Caroline BrittonTo do the.
Caroline BrittonThe feeling part is.
Caroline BrittonIs one key thing, but also to recognize that in order to change things in your reality, you're going to have to start choosing different beliefs.
Caroline BrittonDifferent thoughts because they govern our emotions and our actions.
Caroline BrittonAnd there's so many of us in the same cycle taking the same actions with the same habits because we haven't gone back and said, these are the new beliefs, because we're waiting.
Caroline BrittonJust start playing with this.
Caroline BrittonI'm a powerful creator.
Caroline BrittonI have the power with everything I do.
Caroline BrittonHow could I use that?
Caroline BrittonAnd if I can start looking for the evidence that it's working, I get to lock in a new belief.
Caroline BrittonBecause we are the product of your what we believe to be true about ourselves and the world.
Caroline BrittonYou can't outperform your view of yourself.
Caroline BrittonAnd that's why if you look at anybody from J.K.
Caroline Brittonrowling to Barack Obama to whoever, they've got to where they are, because they've had to.
Caroline BrittonThey've had to connect to a greater belief and an identity about what was possible for them.
Caroline BrittonSo when J.K.
Caroline Brittonrowling was being rejected from what, 10, 12 publishers, there was a belief within her that she hadn't written a silly book about a wizard that nobody wants, wanted.
Caroline BrittonShe'd written a masterpiece that was supposed to be out in the world.
Caroline BrittonThat has to come first.
Caroline BrittonThat inner belief, those inner thoughts, they have to come first.
Caroline BrittonThe universe then responds to it.
Caroline BrittonAnd I'm so passionate about people trying that.
Kate Moore YoussefI really hope you enjoyed this week's episode.
Kate Moore YoussefIf you did and it resonated with you, I would absolutely love it if you could share on your platforms or maybe leave a review and a rating wherever you listen to your podcasts.
Kate Moore YoussefAnd please do check out my website, ADHD womenswellbeing.co.uk for lots of free resources and paid for workshops.
Kate Moore YoussefI'm uploading new things all the time and I would absolutely love to see you there.
Kate Moore YoussefTake care and see you for the next episode.
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