Even the LPs of the venture capitalists,

you know, they have a lack of

knowledge about quantum. They don't know what is

quantum computing, what this kind of technology

could be an impact in the

future business environment, you know.

Welcome to Impact Quantum.

Uh, hello and welcome back to Impact Quantum, the podcast where we explore the emerging

industry of quantum computing. Well, you don't need to be a PhD or

have a PhD, uh, or even know anyone with a PhD in

quantum physics. You just need to be curious. And with me is

the most quantum curious person I know, Candace Cahouli. How's it going, Candace?

It's great. Thank you for asking. Today, all

the way from Argentina, we are speaking to Daniel

Ruiz. He is the founder of

QNOW. Hi, Daniel. How are you today?

Hello, Candace. Hello, Frank. Thanks for

having me. Thanks for the invitation. I'm good now.

Happy to stay here and have a great conversation.

Cool. So Argentina,

when, when, when Candace was doing a lot of the research for our global

reports, Argentina was a surprise, as was a lot of the

tech scene in quantum tech scene in Latin America,

which is further along, I think, than people think. When people think

quantum, I think there's always this bias of US, China,

maybe the EU. Um, but, um,

what was their score, Candace? I gotta pull up the site. Uh, the score was—

I can check it out. They're doing surprisingly very exciting what's going on in

Argentina. It was something like third or fourth place, like

behind like only the US, China, and, uh, Canada.

Right. Um, let's see. Argentina has

an index of 3. In the,

and they have an active roadmap for 2030.

So if you look at Latin America, I think there's enormous

opportunity. And in my day job, I've seen that, right? In terms of AI,

right? Like there's a lot of AI going on there.

You have an interesting situation where in Latin America, you have

somewhere between 30 to 40 different sovereign countries, right? There's only

hyperscalers in, 3 or 4 of them. So

there's a lot of opportunity, I think, in terms of research and on-prem

and kind of work. So, so what's going on? What's the quantum scene

look like in Argentina? Yeah, tell us a little bit about your journey. We're really

excited. Okay, okay, cool. Let's, let's start.

Well, I, my background is very technical. I'm

specialized in software development.

At the same time, when I

was knowing about more

emerging technologies. Around

2019, I met quantum computing.

So since 2019, I was in

this journey, learning every day,

every day learning about quantum stuff. And at the same

time, working with partners and

with scientific and research

teams that allow us to have a

very big picture and an overview of

who is the landscape here in LATAM.

From that, I could say that here in LATAM, we have,

specifically in Argentina, we have A lot of

talented people, starting with the people, the talented

people, and even the capacity to

create qubits here in Bariloche.

It has a lab team, a government

lab team that has created qubits.

Yes, not a quantum

machine like that, but creating and

stabilizing qubits. From

that and from the capacity of creating software, quantum

software, I would say that

in Latin America, there is the opportunity to

export these capacities

from the hardware and into

including to the software. What software?

I could say that specifically in applications, yes.

That is what we're doing right now in QNOW.

We have two lead industries that

we are interested in. One industry is the

financial sector and the other industry is

the healthcare sector. So I

could say that that is the opportunity. Maybe

creating hardware, maybe creating

the QPUs, maybe LATAM is very,

you know, it is not—

maybe I could say that LATAM is

or could be great not as hardware but

at application level could be better or could be

have this kind of opportunities.

So you said you were involved in both financial and

in the health, in the health sector. Okay,

so which one do you think is going to develop

first? Okay,

I am here in LATAM. I have the opportunity to

talk with

leaders in banking, leaders of business in

financial sector. Yes, they have the resources

to sponsor a research. They have

the resources and the knowledge

and all they need to start getting

involved now with quantum. Technologies, yes.

But at the same time, there are some

grade of literacy, you know, there

is a lack of knowledge in this kind of

technologies.

Because they don't know

where implement quantum technologies, they don't know

how is the return of investment

applying this kind of technologies. So,

I would say that this sector could be the first one that

implement this kind of technologies. But at the same time,

must be the first one that get involved

in the knowledge of this kind of technologies. Yes?

Specifically, We have a partner called

Falcon Day. Yes, our partner is

especially focused on

credit risk scoring. Yes, that

could be helpful in the financial sector,

applying different kinds of classification models

to know who pays the credits and who

probably, you know, pays the credit.

So if you're asking for me, I could say that the financial

sector will be the first one to apply.

At the same time, here in Latin America, the

healthcare sector, specifically in the

drug discovery, drug design process,

there are no investigations or there are not

a lot of investigations here from LATAM. All the

investigations are in Sweden,

in Basel, but here

the local people, the local resources that

has this kind of research

is very poor, yes. So I

could say that the healthcare sector could be the second one, yes.

But there is my

projection, my perspective, but I

could say that if the

academic sector and

us, as you know, the company sector,

the private sector, could join the

forces and start to create researching and start

to create or those new techniques,

new ways to solve the industry

problems could be a great opportunity that

the greatest companies in healthcare and

finance start to see the work

and start to implement this kind of

data pipelines, of quantum machine learning models,

this kind of technologies. In

their operations. Yes.

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. That makes a lot of sense.

So from QNow, we are doing

that. We are trying to

generate some value, generate genuine value,

real value to this kind of

industries. Yes. Starting, like I said before,

with credit score and the drug design or drug

discovery process.

Okay. So, does your solutions—

do your solutions involve as well using

AI? Exactly.

We can describe Q-NAU as a company that solves

problems for automate and create

autonomous systems for

autonomous tasks. But what is the principle

of that? We have created a technique

based in knowledge graphs that allows

today's LLM models

to generate a kind of fact, a kind of

knowledge, or a kind of memory, I mean,

that allows to create this kind of

automated process. Particularly, we have a—

we are a 100% bootstrapped company. Yes, QNOW

don't have at the moment investment. We are

100% bootstrapped. And for make us

traction and generate some revenue, we have

find a niche, we have find a problem in the financial

sector in what we

have solving through classical AI.

Yes, we have created a classical product,

a classical problem solving that allows

us traction to quantum

stuff. So if you ask me if

we have some AI in QAnon, of course,

to through this kind of products that

prepare from now the data of the organization,

the data of our clients or of our future

clients to in a near future

add quantum value, add real value,

preparing the data from today. Yes, I could say that.

Okay. Interesting. So what is the

startup scene like in Argentina, right? You're

completely bootstrapped, which good on you because you have a lot of control.

Did you— what does the startup

scene look like? Are there a lot of bootstrap startups or are they— is there

a heavy venture presence? I know with Quantum on a

previous show, we talked about how national governments are getting involved in

The quantum conversation largely for national security reasons,

but like, you know, is there any kind of government assistance, funding,

incubators, that sort of thing? Okay. Well,

today, the picture of today

is that even the

LPs of the venture capitalists, you know,

has a lack of knowledge about quantum. They don't

know what is quantum computing, what this kind

of technology could be

impact in the future business environment,

you know. So I could say that today in

Argentina, maybe there are a couple of

companies or startup that have

the claim that they have the quantum

flag, you know, the quantum technologies flag.

But I don't really, I don't know

how much investment or how much

the private sector will be available

to start promoting these technologies.

I know there are some companies that

are looking for investments,

you know, paying some press release and all

that kind of stuff just for attracting investment. But

here in QNAU, we

adopt the way to create genuine

value to

clients, you know. But at the

same time, in a near term,

create this kind of conversation with the government when

we have a strong basis to

demonstrate that the quantum industry or demonstrate the

quantum solving problem will be interesting

for, at least for these industries, healthcare and

finance. At the same time, the government,

they have some resources,

but in the AI sector. At the quantum layer,

there are not a lot of resources,

even if in the company sector,

even in the startup sector,

yes. At this level, I could say that only in

AI there are more, more, more things than

quantum even. Interesting.

So for the kids that are in school right now,

do you see the young researchers in Argentina wanting to stay

and build maybe their own companies locally,

or do you think they feel that they need to leave in

order to properly scale?

Okay, that's a great question because here in

Argentina, you know,

the ecosystem is very entrepreneurial. Yes, there are

a lot of big

ideas and a lot of good things

in the air, you know, because by

culture, the Argentinian people is in that way.

Yes, it's very, I can do the

best, I'm the best. Yes, that's the That's a cultural point

that I could say here. So

recently we have collaborated with

IBM, with Qiskit Fall Festival, you know, that is a

worldwide event that passes through a lot

of countries. And particularly the

Qiskit Fall Festival that was here in Argentina.

Let us say that is the way that you mentioned,

Candance. There's a lot of ideas, there

is a lot of young people getting involved now

with this kind of events that has

the vision to create their own companies,

to start involving and create

their own research in quantum technologies. So

there's a lot to do right now in Argentina.

And I can see that the people, the young people, is

very getting involved in that kind of technologies.

Interesting. I don't know if

you have to come to here in Argentina.

I would love to. I would love to go to Argentina. Yeah, I'd come in

a second. It's summer there now, right? It's summer there now, so that

helps. It's beautiful there. It is beautiful. The food, I hear

the coffee is really good. I hear the steak is really good. So yeah.

Yes, yes, the coffee, the Colombian coffee is good.

What skills would you say Argentine

quantum professionals bring? That global companies

sometimes underestimate?

Maybe—

okay, maybe I could say that

the opportunities to

create research, basic

research, Is

the one thing that maybe the companies,

you know, don't know or don't have

the knowledge that here in Latin America and here

in Argentina do.

I could see that all the research

things could be very

underestimated. Things here in LATAM because

there are a lot of talented people, there are a lot of

private and public

organizations that had good material, that has

good researchers.

Yes, maybe

I could say that in the last 2 years

at the academic level, it starts to create the

first quantum congress at local level. Yes,

we have the opportunity to, as ACUNAO,

participate in these first congress.

And I see that there is

a lot of great things, but, you know,

AWS or WEGATI or even

IBM, they don't know how are the things

here in Latin America. I

could say that they must

start getting involved here in Latin America. Like I said before,

maybe not at hardware level

or maybe yes, but at applications level, at

application layers. Could be the best thing that

from all sides, organizations could start to

create that link, you know, for

start creating and prepare applications that solve real

problems. Okay. I mean,

it's interesting because I think there's a certain bias in the tech

industry to assume that it's either North America or Asia, right?

And they're forgetting, you know, there's a joke about You know,

US innovates, China imitates, and Europe regulates, but they're forgetting like

one other player. Um, and you know, these

are pretty sizable economies, right? Like people, I mean,

like, and you know, I,

I've been a big fan of since joining Red Hat, well, a lot of our

successes have been actually in Latin America with our product. And it's just like,

you know, this is a, this is this is a big market.

And when you consider kind of

the, just the sheer number of people, the sheer number of the

demographics, like it, it's going to be a

force to be reckoned with for sure, whether that'll be in 5 years or 10

years. But I mean, the fact that there's so much quantum innovation happening,

I think is a good sign. And, you know, I know some of it's quasi-government,

some of it's not, like it's an interesting space. But

one of the things that came up in a lot of Candice's research

I'll let her talk to it because she did the research, uh, was the

concern about brain drain. And she did kind of allude to that, right? Because

that's a problem globally, right? And that's a concern in the U.S., it's a concern

in China. Um, the idea that I'm going to educate

all these kids on the latest and greatest and they're going to go to California

or Beijing or, um, you know,

or wherever, Shenzhen or whatever, like, is that a problem

in Argentina?

Yes, I could say that, yes, it's the same

thing, it's the same thing. Like you said

before, even the governments, even here,

or the economic situations, you know,

just the last 2 years, the economy has a

big change here in Argentina. With a lot of

new laws, a lot of new,

you know, opportunities to, from outside Argentina,

invest here in Argentina. So has maybe

a play to, a

favor to Argentina to start changing that

point, yes?

Because, you know, maybe We

are incorporated in the US, in Delaware,

yes, but we operate here in Argentina.

Could be ideal that people like us

that has to create their own business

start here and incorporate here in Argentina, but you know,

the taxes, all the barriers that we have

as an entrepreneur You know,

let us create some strategies to,

you know, do the things in

other ways. Yes. But it's

the same problem globally, I think that.

So you talked about the barriers and,

you know, I'm assuming the biggest challenges might be funding or

infrastructure or even market access. Is there other

Are there other types of barriers that you're finding that the startups

are facing in Argentina?

Yes, I think that is a blend of

these issues, the investment and

the access to the markets, yes, because it's not the same,

or well, it's not the same, the Brazilian market

against the Argentinian market. You know, there is a lot of

difference between that countries.

But in Brazil, that is Latin— is South

America, you know, Brazil has an other

ecosystem more evolved than the Argentinian.

Yes, in Brazil there are a lot

of investment, a lot of other

status of the quantum technologies, I could say.

But here in Argentina, I That's the point.

There are the barriers to start create

value from here. Yes, the investment and

the market access. So for that reason,

we at QNOW have to create that kind of

conversations with the business leaders

to to start create from now this interest

in the quantum technologies. Yes. Not only for

investment, no, but even for

create quantum strategies. Yes.

Doing a kind of consulting services,

you know, that allow to the

big enterprises or big

corporations here in Argentina no more about

quantum technologies. Yes. Right.

Interesting. I assume, I assume that must really kind of force you to be

more creative and to

be— to realistically create quantum

applications because of the constraints that you face.

I just was thinking. Yeah. Yes,

yes, that is the reason that

we choose as a research topic

all the drug discovery and drug design process

to apply quantum technologies. Specifically, we

have developed a QSAR

method. That QSAR method is a

kind of a classifier,

yes, to determine which compound

is better than other, taking in mind

even the toxicity of a compound,

taking in mind the, the ATME,

the process to know how solving

via oral a medication could be absorbed

by our bodies. So

for that reason,

we create or we choose to develop

this kind of process implementing quantum stuff.

That was the opportunity, that was the

creativity that has in that time

our team. To determine

which line of research we should do

and betting into the future that it

could be a good problem to solve in the industry

and has a, you know, a very opportunity to create

value and business through that. Yes.

So if we were to look at, take the next decade, what would need

to change in Argentina to become a serious quantum

startup hub? Okay, I think

that,

um, could be a must, yes, that the outside,

a venture capitalist or,

or outside, um, every adopters of

quantum, come here, come here and start to

see all the scene, see all the research

that this big country has to

demonstrate, yes? Because maybe

in the coming 10 years

could be appear a lot of unicorns, I don't know.

Maybe, you know, or maybe

a good

company that has a very early breakpoint

to start a big profit, you know, without

investing, just through the real value through

clients. Yes, maybe it could be that scenario.

But I think that there's a lot of to create from here

and to demonstrate to the outside of Argentina

that what we are capable of, of what, no?

But I think that from the company

that all the companies that outside

Argentina already has a path, already

has a very strong roadmap, already has

a lot of research could

it could do a

kind of knowledge transfer from here

to LATAM and start to create this kind of

conversation from South America to

North America or from here to Europe.

Yes.

So what's one misconception about quantum computing that you wish

more people would just drop?

Maybe is the— that is

in a certain point very technical.

Yes, maybe becomes the conversation very technical

because if

you don't have knowledge about data,

maybe when you try to create an answer to a

Hamiltonian, or maybe when you try to create

a fermionic

Hamiltonian, you know, that is very technical terms,

yes, maybe

the people who feel that is not

very understanding of the topic, so maybe the

technicism could be the big barrier to drop

this kind of technology, this

kind of topic. But at the same time, I

think that through the technology,

through the knowledge graphs, through the LLMs

application that we have today, we have

the way to cut that

learning curve, that learning that

barrier,

adopting this kind of AI system, but

based in a validated

knowledge and a great quality of

knowledge, maybe could be a way to

solve that barrier.

Yeah. So when you talk to customers

or prospective customers, like, what's their reaction when you say

quantum? Okay,

maybe some clients

has this sensation, has the feeling of,

wow, it is NASA.

Right. Yes, but when we try to

create, to start this kind of conversation,

we always transmit to our potential clients

that all becomes from data. Yes,

all become from data and we can add

value, real value to

applying quantum technologies, quantum

algorithms, solving that problem. Yes.

So when we start this kind of conversations,

we try to do in a very

detailed way, yes, to know,

not sending, not selling smoke,

you know, don't enter in the hype. So

for that reason, We choose that when we

talk with this kind of potential clients,

at the first step, we have

to find the way that understood that the

classical is a complement, the quantum

is a complement of the classical. Yes. And how the

quantum stuff could potentially

exploiting the classical ways that

they have today, making some

benchmarks between the classical models and

the quantum or hybrid models

in a certain pipeline, in a certain

process of this organization or these

potential clients. So maybe the conversation we turn in

that way.

That makes sense.

So what does success look like for you right now

when you're working on something like a case

study? Is it not in theory but in actual

practice? What does success look like?

I think that maybe

if potentially

in healthcare, yes, specifically in

healthcare, maybe we can

talk about success when

we perform a metric, when we

perform something related with resources,

yes, with money, with time, we can say that

that kind of problem solving is success,

yes. I think in that way,

so for that reason I could

say that only if you move the needle

in the path in the right way,

you your project, your stuff has a

success. At the same time, if no has success,

it's great, it's fine, because that is knowledge

that keep with us, you know, but

in the very strict

level, I could say that the success is only

success when you has the

capacity to add value that

evolved in, you

know, in ROI for our organization, in reducing time

and resources, you know. I think in that

way.

Interesting. I'm

fascinated to see kind of like what startup ecosystems look around the world.

'Cause I think there's an assumption that even within the United States,

honestly, there's an assumption that if you want

to start up, you have to go to Silicon Valley, right? And obviously there are

probably good reasons to go to Silicon Valley, but

you have a number of, one of my jobs not

that long ago was working in what we call civic technology, which is

the idea of working with local city

leaders across a bunch of cities around the US, right?

And each one of them wants to be the next Silicon Valley. Each one of

them wants to be like DC, certainly had that. New

York. Well, New York is Silicon Alley. New York is kind of different. But,

you know, every city I spoke to, you know, whether it was Detroit, whether it

was Chicago, they all want to have their own Silicon Valley type

setup. And one of the best bits of advice that I

would tell them is like, don't be the next Silicon Valley, be the,

the next, be the best version of you that's focused on

the future. Right. So like, you know, obviously I live in the DC area, right?

A lot of government adjacent, highly regulated industries, right? There's a good

opportunity if you're a startup to be in that field, right? Like

the startup mentality doesn't have to be just around tech. Tech is going to be

part of it. Because tech is gonna be part of everything, right? So the whole

idea in quantum tech, I think, is also following a very similar trajectory

in that regard. And

it's just fascinating about

kind of like what that looks like. And not every culture— I know

Argentina might be different— not every culture values entrepreneurship. That's one thing

I kind of learned when I lived overseas was kind of like, you know, people

look at it kind of with suspicion. Some people look at it like this. I

think Argentina shares the American cowboy culture, although

you guys call them gauchos, uh,

you know, where you have that kind of rugged individualism, which I think does

fit nicely with entrepreneurship. Is that, is that true? Is that like a thing,

like the, the entrepreneurial spirit in

Argentina? Yes, yes, I, I

totally agree with that. It's, it's the same, it's the same

spirit, it's the same a feeling, you know.

And I'm from Colombia. Yes, I'm from Colombia,

but I, I live in here in Argentina. And that's why you like the

Colombian coffee. It is great coffee, like

for real, it is great coffee. But like, no, but he made a point of

that in the green room. Yeah, I was like, oh,

more than the average, more than I would expect from the average Argentinian.

So there you go. Okay. Yes, yes, that's the reason

for the Colombian coffee. And I have

been here in Argentina more than 10 years ago, yes,

and I'm from outside of Argentina. I

could see and I can feel this kind

of, you know, sensations, you know.

It's cultural that the gauchos the gauchos

do a barbecue

with only a piece of iron

and maybe cool the fire with two

pieces of grass, you know, that kind of spirit that

invites us in a way to,

you know, breaking that barriers, that

barriers that don't allow

you to do things. Yes, I think that this spirit

is very interesting in that country, in this country.

Yes, and maybe it's not the same

feeling in all the Latin America's countries, you know,

it's very different the culture and

this kind of stuff. Yes.

I don't know, at the same time, I

love the skateboarding culture,

and the skateboarding culture learns that

to me, that if you want to do a

trick in your skateboard, you have to

try, try, try, falling, Then try,

try until the trick has

in the right way that you visualize in your brain.

So it's very interesting, this kind of

feelings that allow us to create

things, to create companies, to create applications,

to create things. So

as a founder, What's a hard lesson you've learned

that you wish more quantum founders would talk about

openly?

Okay. I could say

that maybe

the way

in what we try to do things.

Yes, I could say that maybe if

we choose to be 100%

bootstrapping or be 100% VC-funded, you

know, this kind of stuff

is the more decision

things that allow us to start

getting involved in in the world of

entrepreneurial. Yes.

I don't know if that

answered your question or maybe could repeat the question.

No, I mean, I just want to know about difficult lesson learned. I

mean, obviously it's hard being a founder and I'm sure it's very difficult in the

quantum space even more so. And, you

know, like we talked about before, not everything is as open source and,

you know, open knowledge as it could be. So I just

wondered if there was something that you felt you wished more founders would talk

about openly. Yes, yes.

Well, this is a few founders here

regarding the quantum technologies. Yes.

See, maybe I could

add to this thinking

that maybe

the compute resources. I don't know if

you know that here in Latin

America, we can access directly from D-Wave's

hardware. Maybe this kind of

barriers could

be a very

a barrier to start creating things or

to start to use

the real-world tools that

are out there. Yes. This

example, I could say that would be a big

barrier for us as a founder and for

all the quantum founders that that live here in

this country or living in Latin America.

Yes,

I consider that

interesting. I think it's interesting how

we—

yeah, I think it's interesting to see how the startup

entrepreneurial culture changes from location to location.

Even within the US, right? Like, you know, Candace and I both grew up more

or less the same timeframe in more or less the same city,

um, in New York, right? It wasn't always— at least for me,

the pressure was always to get a job at a bank, right? Even if it

was in tech, right? Like, you want to work at a bank, right?

And the whole idea of working and starting your own company just seemed very

I wouldn't say— yeah, it was kind of frowned upon, wouldn't you say?

Yeah, it was. It absolutely was. But then something

happened, you know, like I can say when I came to

Montreal in 2010, the biggest thing I

noticed about Canadians was that every family I met,

one person was an entrepreneur, one parent, and

the other parent worked for a company. But that's also because

we have some other safety nets here in Canada. But entrepreneurship

was considered, you know, not like a

luxury but almost like a necessity for, for future happiness for

people. That is interesting because

the French-Canadian part of my family, there actually is

one branch of the family, um, actually

did start their own engineering firm, and

they're doing, they're doing real well for themselves last I heard. He lived in Colombia

for a while, actually, one of my cousins. He was,

um, I think he ended up going to Venezuela, then Colombia, because he worked in

petroleum industry. Okay. So kind of like doing, uh, engineering

consulting. So, you know, that's how I know

about Colombian coffee and stuff like that. And so let me ask you this. Each

Latin American country is very proud of their, their coffee culture. Sorry,

let me— no, no, let me ask you this. So how do you keep motivated?

Because You know, quantum can go slow,

right? And it's hard sometimes. The timelines are

long and sometimes results aren't as visible as you want them to

be. So how do you keep up momentum? How do you stay motivated?

Okay, okay, cool. I could say that my team—

with a right team, you can affront a lot of

barriers in that way. Yes.

Through these last 2 years that I'm

become an entrepreneur, you know.

I was be with a lot

of people that I

would think that was the, you know, the dream thing, the

dream team, yes. But through the

years, the real

life showed me that not all

the people has the, you know, the spirit

to create from scratch this kind

of companies, yes, not for all, it's not for all,

but at the same time,

I think that the same life, you know,

having me to the way that Right now

I have, or I feel that I

have the right team. Yes, we have 4

founders and at this moment we have

passed through a lot of obstacles that you can imagine,

you know, and that is one thing that

keeping me motivated to

keep creating, to keep

investigating, to keep researching, to keep start

to get

grants for computing time, to

create some partnerships

for consulting services with one

team, for research with one team. That is my

fuel to not give up and

keep going and going. Until

we have arrived to our

goal. You know, I could

say that is the team, is your team.

I'm excited, Candace. You know why? Because we always talk about, we talk to Europeans,

we talk to Canadians, we talk to Americans. We don't think we've talked to the

Chinese, anyone in kind of the Asian side of Quantum yet. I

think mostly that's because of time zone issues. But like, it's

cool because like, I want to spotlight kind of like the— I know

from my experience at Red Hat, I know like the tech scene in Latin America,

Argentina in particular, Argentina and Brazil are the two ones I'm most familiar with.

They're really sophisticated. I've had some customer calls with those folks and

it's like, wow, these guys are really like on top of their

game. It makes me want to redo a couple of—

which this will probably come out before or maybe this other thing come up before,

but I want to redo a couple of the country reports because there

are certain countries that have exploded in the past 6 months,

you know, since I did the reports initially in May. And so I would really—

Argentina is definitely one of them that I want to, I want to explore and

investigate. So, Daniel, thank you so much for, for representing

and, and sharing what's going on with Q now.

And, you know, keep in touch with us. We'd love to hear more.

And to hear how everything is progressing.

The multiverse is skanking, skanking in time. Black holes are

wailing in a horn line so fine. From plank scales to planets, they're

connecting the dots. Candace and Frank, they're the cosmic

hotshot.

Quantum Podcast, turn it up fast. Candace and Frank

blowing my mind at last. Quantum Podcast, they're breaking

the mold. Science It's bold

and it's gold.