There are four lines from a Mary Oliver poem that give me
Speaker:goosebumps every time I hear them.
Speaker:In the poem, Wild Geese, she says, you do not have to be good.
Speaker:You do not have to walk on your knees for a hundred miles
Speaker:through the desert repenting.
Speaker:You only have to let the soft animal of your body love what it loves.
Speaker:And this really resonates with me, and I've been wondering why, why does
Speaker:that line you do not have to be good?
Speaker:Feel so hard for me?
Speaker:And why do those extra lines feel like such a relief?
Speaker:And I've been thinking about it, and I think it's not because they give
Speaker:me permission to be careless or to be bad, but because they really release
Speaker:something much, much older and heavier.
Speaker:And when I unpicked what I was gonna say for this quick dip
Speaker:episode, it's not really about my favorite poem by Mary Oliver.
Speaker:It's about what being good has come to mean for me, has come to
Speaker:mean for doctors and other senior healthcare professionals, and people
Speaker:in high stress, high stakes jobs.
Speaker:And what is the cost of that belief?
Speaker:Because doctors, senior healthcare professionals, they care deeply
Speaker:about doing good in the world.
Speaker:And that's probably why you came into this profession.
Speaker:You wanted to help, you wanted to make a difference, and you wanted to matter
Speaker:in a way that really reduced suffering.
Speaker:And yes, there's all the other stuff about the interest and the science
Speaker:and doing something exciting, But somewhere along the way, all that
Speaker:stuff, especially the doing good, it got tangled up with being good.
Speaker:In fact, I was chatting the other day to a friend whose sister is a gp and she
Speaker:said that she realized quite recently that her sister genuinely believes that
Speaker:she is good because she is a doctor.
Speaker:And this is all tied up as part of her identity.
Speaker:And I think for us, being good has come to mean something very specific.
Speaker:It's not reacting, not judging, not misspeaking or speaking out of turn.
Speaker:Not swearing, not letting off steam, not being selfish or self-indulgent
Speaker:and not needing too much.
Speaker:Being good looks like being very measured, contained, and incredibly selfless.
Speaker:And once that becomes standard and normalize inside us, then
Speaker:your normal human reactions don't just feel inconvenient.
Speaker:They feel like wrongdoing.
Speaker:They feel like evidence that you are bad and you are not who you should be.
Speaker:And so maybe it's not so much that we want to be good, but we are
Speaker:actually trying to avoid the shame of feeling that we are not good.
Speaker:And I think there's an important distinction here that we often miss.
Speaker:It's this, being good is not the same as being safe or being wise.
Speaker:Now wise.
Speaker:Looks like noticing a risk, asking for help.
Speaker:Acting within your limits, correcting your course early, admitting when you
Speaker:are wrong, repairing relationships, giving honest feedback, acting
Speaker:within what you know to be true.
Speaker:Being good.
Speaker:Often.
Speaker:It's like absorbing all that extra pressure without complaining, staying
Speaker:really pleasant and not let anything show, and certainly not being weak.
Speaker:And these two distinctions are distinctions between wise and good,
Speaker:they get blurred very, very easily in medicine, and when they do, denying
Speaker:yourself and your very human needs starts to look like professionalism.
Speaker:And I think part of the reason why those lines from that Mary
Speaker:Oliver poem land so hard for me is that it feels really personal.
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Speaker:talk about on our full podcast episodes.
Speaker:I've chosen today's topic to give you a helpful boost in the time it
Speaker:takes to have a cup of tea so you can return to whatever else you're
Speaker:up to feeling energized and inspired.
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Speaker:From a very young age, I was taught that being crossed was wrong, watching
Speaker:certain things on the TV was wrong, having certain normal human urges was wrong.
Speaker:And at the same time, I learned that you were judged by your output, by how well
Speaker:you did, how much you helped people, how successful you were, how much you
Speaker:achieved, and how nice you could be.
Speaker:The problem was I was a child with ADHD, didn't know that at the time,
Speaker:and so I was often told I was just tactless, that I upset people, which
Speaker:was awful, that I was naughty, not nice.
Speaker:And the problem is because being loving and kind are two of my deepest values.
Speaker:I didn't hear all that feedback as feedback about my behavior.
Speaker:I heard it all as a verdict on who I was, that I was not good.
Speaker:I was not a nice person.
Speaker:And so I, I tried to work my way out that by being good in other
Speaker:ways, so getting really good grades, achieving a lot, and making sure that
Speaker:I always was doing the right thing.
Speaker:And also part of the problem was I challenged beliefs and ways of doing
Speaker:things rather than blindly accepting them.
Speaker:That was a bit dangerous because that then was framed as a problem with me.
Speaker:I was told I was upsetting people, that I wasn't being loving or kind.
Speaker:And if you've grown up in a controlling cultural or religious system, you'll
Speaker:know exactly what I'm talking about.
Speaker:And please believe me when I say there was nothing wrong with you.
Speaker:Your intuition was spot on.
Speaker:But the only way to control you and to maintain the status quo was to
Speaker:turn it into a problem with you.
Speaker:So again, the tables were turned.
Speaker:The verdict was the same for me.
Speaker:I wasn't good.
Speaker:And that belief has followed me into medicine, has followed me all my life.
Speaker:Because once you are a doctor or you have a very responsible job,
Speaker:the standards feel even higher.
Speaker:You're not just meant to behave well, but you are meant to be better than everybody
Speaker:else and gooder than everybody else.
Speaker:And when I found myself leading the professionalism curriculum
Speaker:for medical students at Cambridge University, that pressure intensified.
Speaker:My job was literally to teach future doctors how to be good.
Speaker:At the same time, I was bringing up three children pretty much as a default parent,
Speaker:holding down multiple roles as a GP, a medical educator amongst other stuff.
Speaker:And my nervous system did what nervous systems do.
Speaker:Under sustained pressure it reacted, it got overwhelmed, it got cross, and
Speaker:it got resentful and every time that happened, I didn't think I'm exhausted.
Speaker:I thought I've been bad.
Speaker:And even when I left general practice and the job that I really hated,
Speaker:I was flooded with guilt and shame because a good person would keep
Speaker:seeing patients, would keep working in a role that just didn't suit them.
Speaker:A good person would cope.
Speaker:A good person would be selfless and a good person wouldn't leave.
Speaker:And after eventually being diagnosed with ADHD a couple of years ago and
Speaker:subsequently having some therapy, something's really shifted for me.
Speaker:I look back at that little girl and I think you poor thing.
Speaker:You were desperately trying to be good in a system that just wanted to control you.
Speaker:Your reactions weren't sinful.
Speaker:They weren't evidence that you were bad.
Speaker:They were human responses to be highly controlled in an environment that didn't
Speaker:tolerate difference or challenge, and that relied on no one speaking up.
Speaker:And I realized that I'd spent my life trying to prove to the world
Speaker:that I was good, even if I was a bit impulsive and irrational at times.
Speaker:But I was living in constant fear of saying or doing the wrong thing.
Speaker:And what I am slowly learning now is this, that I am human.
Speaker:I have wisdom, I have integrity.
Speaker:And yes, some things occasionally come out wrong or quite often come out wrong.
Speaker:And sometimes I can say things impulsively or insensitively.
Speaker:Sometimes I talk too much and I overwhelm people.
Speaker:That behavior doesn't work.
Speaker:Doesn't mean I'm bad.
Speaker:It doesn't mean that I am unkind.
Speaker:It just means I'm human.
Speaker:And here's something I have really come to see is that good and bad are not
Speaker:very useful categories for human beings.
Speaker:They're just moral labels that we slap onto behavior, And then
Speaker:we turn them into judgments about identity, about who you are, who I am.
Speaker:It's like calling a cat a good cat or a bad cat.
Speaker:A cat isn't good or bad, it's just a cat.
Speaker:It behaves just like a cat behaves.
Speaker:So if I was cooking some fish for our tea and I left a bowl of fish
Speaker:on the side and the cat ate the fish, I might say, you bad cat.
Speaker:But if I put that bowl of fish down and left it next to its food bowl and wanted
Speaker:them to eat it and it doesn't eat it.
Speaker:I'll go Well, what's wrong with that cat?
Speaker:Right?
Speaker:The judgment changes, but the cat doesn't.
Speaker:It's still being a cat.
Speaker:But with ourselves, we do this constantly.
Speaker:We turn the fact that we are humans and have finite capacity,
Speaker:we turn that into a character flaw.
Speaker:We turn having limits into moral failure and we turn our normal human reactions
Speaker:into something that needs correcting.
Speaker:And here's where I want to say it's a very inconvenient truth and widen the lens a
Speaker:bit because this belief that doctors must be good, it doesn't just live inside us.
Speaker:It lives in society, doesn't it?
Speaker:It lives in the system and it's very, very useful to the system.
Speaker:Because in the short term.
Speaker:Everybody benefits from doctors who over function, who stay late,
Speaker:who fill the gaps in the rota, who absorb the risk so that everyone
Speaker:else can breathe a sigh of relief.
Speaker:And so a failing system just can keep going with under resourcing understaffing,
Speaker:and unlimited demand, and patients never understanding that the healthcare system
Speaker:cannot meet all of the things that they think they need from it, and a political
Speaker:system that is unwilling to admit that.
Speaker:So patients benefit from doctors who over function.
Speaker:Organizations benefit, and even our colleagues benefit.
Speaker:And it's just like children who benefit from parents who just do everything
Speaker:for them, who absorb all the stress for them, but we know how that ends.
Speaker:In the long term it creates dependence, resentment, and actual harm.
Speaker:And yet doctors somehow keep waiting for permission from other people
Speaker:and from the system to stop, for somebody else to say, it's okay.
Speaker:Now you can rest.
Speaker:You are never gonna get that permission because the system is
Speaker:totally relying on you not stopping.
Speaker:So that permission is not gonna come from anybody else.
Speaker:It needs to come from yourself.
Speaker:And even worse, this belief that we are morally defective.
Speaker:If we can't just keep going and going and going.
Speaker:And the belief that that doctors must be good.
Speaker:The doctors have to keep going.
Speaker:Otherwise it's a moral failing.
Speaker:This belief just gets weaponized.
Speaker:So if doctors step back or go off sick with burnout or,
Speaker:or just say no to something.
Speaker:It's not just practically a little bit difficult, but they meet moral judgment.
Speaker:People saying to them, or whispering, yeah, you are not coping or
Speaker:you're just not resilient enough.
Speaker:That's resilience, victim blaming.
Speaker:You are not a team player.
Speaker:Uh, you are being selfish or greedy.
Speaker:And when that judgment comes from colleagues, which it can do, even if it's
Speaker:just inferred through a tone or alert or just silence, it can be really, really
Speaker:devastating because it confirms what we're already thinking already, our deepest
Speaker:fear that maybe I really am not good.
Speaker:And that's why burnout can often hurt us in the way it does.
Speaker:It's not just exhaustion.
Speaker:It's a, a separate kind of moral injury.
Speaker:So the things that we've been doing to be what the system calls
Speaker:a good doctor and what we believe to be a good doctor, have actually
Speaker:harmed us, pushed us into burnout.
Speaker:And then on top of that, we think that because our bodies have reacted in a
Speaker:normal human physiologically way to the stress of the overwhelm and the
Speaker:burnout, that we are deficient, we are weak or selfish and not good enough.
Speaker:So let me be very clear about what I am and what I am not saying.
Speaker:I'm not saying that anything goes.
Speaker:I'm not saying that it is okay to lie, to cheat, to steal, to
Speaker:deceive people, to bully people.
Speaker:Absolutely not.
Speaker:But that's not what I'm talking about here.
Speaker:But I'm also not saying that unfiltered emotional reactions are safe.
Speaker:They're not, especially in an unforgiving system.
Speaker:Being emotionally dysregulated at work doesn't work very well for you
Speaker:or for anybody else, and it often disregulates others and then you
Speaker:get this vicious spiral, don't you?
Speaker:And it creates risk, but that doesn't make it bad or wrong.
Speaker:It makes it information.
Speaker:Your human reactions are information and they're pretty
Speaker:automatic, so you can't help it.
Speaker:That's the shift I want to offer from good to bad, to behavior that
Speaker:works and behavior that doesn't work.
Speaker:Because actually saying yes to everything, that doesn't work a lot of the time and
Speaker:saying no isn't automatically selfish.
Speaker:Sometimes saying yes is the least good thing you could do.
Speaker:Certainly the least wise thing you can do, and certainly often
Speaker:not in your own integrity.
Speaker:And sometimes staying in a role that's not aligned with you, that doesn't suit
Speaker:you, where you can't give your best, it's self punishment, dressed up as
Speaker:professionalism and responsibility.
Speaker:So here's a different definition of integrity i'd like to offer you.
Speaker:Integrity is not about being good.
Speaker:Integrity is about knowing your limits, telling the truth about your
Speaker:actual capacity, not pretending you can do more than you can do, acting
Speaker:in a way that you can stand behind, that means you can back yourself.
Speaker:For me, integrity means saying what you mean and meaning what you say, and
Speaker:repairing stuff when you accidentally muck up or something you've said lands badly.
Speaker:And it's about not using moral judgment to beat yourself up for
Speaker:being human being with normal human needs, urges and reactions.
Speaker:Most doctors I know have thoughts they would never put in the notes
Speaker:or never say in a meeting, let alone admit out loud to somebody else.
Speaker:Now, that doesn't make you dangerous, it just makes you human.
Speaker:And what matters most is what you do with those thoughts.
Speaker:So when Mary Oliver says in that poem, you do not have to walk on your knees
Speaker:for a hundred miles through the desert repenting, what I hear from that is this.
Speaker:You don't have to overwork or sacrifice your own health and happiness
Speaker:to make up for the fact that you feel that you are not good enough.
Speaker:you don't need to overwork as a punishment.
Speaker:You don't have to destroy yourself to prove that you care deeply about things.
Speaker:And you don't have to suffer at work to earn your worth as a human being.
Speaker:And side note, if you are suffering at work, You are not going to
Speaker:be giving your best, are you?
Speaker:It's only when we're really happy, we're thriving in our work that we are giving
Speaker:our best, that we are actually then really able to do good in the world.
Speaker:And you do not need to be perfect to do good.
Speaker:And if we need a new definition of good, let me offer this one.
Speaker:Good is being wise, it's acting with integrity, true to what you really
Speaker:believe.. It's backing your wise self, and acknowledging your humanity and
Speaker:your reactive amygdala reaction, and then working with it, not against it.
Speaker:And that is not selfish.
Speaker:That is how you stay in this work that you have to do without losing yourself.
Speaker:And that's why these lines still give me goosebumps.
Speaker:They don't let us off the hook.
Speaker:They let us off the lie that being a good doctor is being good.
Speaker:And maybe this is where You Are Not a Frog really comes in.
Speaker:Because a frog relies on reflexes and instinct.
Speaker:And it reacts 'cause it has to, it can't step back and
Speaker:question it's froggy programming.
Speaker:But you are not a frog.
Speaker:You are a human being.
Speaker:You can notice the beliefs that you absorbed in the programming that
Speaker:was set from a very early age about goodness, sacrifice, and worth.
Speaker:And you can decide, are these still true?
Speaker:Are these still serving you?
Speaker:So if this episode has resonated, you might want to share it with
Speaker:someone else who's been living under that same pressure to be good.
Speaker:And over the next week, when that familiar inner judgment starts to
Speaker:show up, just see what happens.
Speaker:And see what happens.
Speaker:If you remind yourself of, I'm not here to prove I'm good.
Speaker:I'm here to act with wisdom and integrity as a human.
Speaker:And that's what matters.
Speaker:Not how good you are, but how honestly and humanly you meet what's in front of you.
Speaker:And you will find you know what to do.
Speaker:You are not a frog.
Speaker:And as Mary Oliver says, you do not need to be good.
Speaker:You just need to let the soft animal of your body love what it loves to be human.