If your brain beats you up over very stupid stuff, tell it to
Speaker:shove it. I have sudoku shame.
Speaker:I make myself feel so bad. Speaking of
Speaker:stupid things my brain does to me on the regular.
Speaker:All right, here we go. I'm gonna pretend I'm pushing record 'cause that feels right.
Speaker:Okay, I'm pressing record. Boop. Hi
Speaker:everybody, I'm Lauren Howard. Welcome to Different
Speaker:Not Broken, which is our podcast on exactly that,
Speaker:that there are a lot of people in this world walking around feeling broken, and
Speaker:the reality is you're just different, and that's fine. I like to
Speaker:eat sandwiches that normal people eat, like, for
Speaker:lunch for breakfast. I don't usually eat actual breakfast food.
Speaker:I'd eat, like, turkey and cheese sandwiches, which isn't that far
Speaker:off from a breakfast food in the US, at least. But anyway, and so I
Speaker:was making the sandwich, and there's nothing like
Speaker:eating salami at, like, 6
Speaker:o'clock in the morning. Like, it sets the tone for the day.
Speaker:And I did regret it afterward. I was like, I think I'm officially too old
Speaker:for this kind of garlic at 6 o'clock in the morning. But anyway, so I
Speaker:have just like the turkey sandwich that I eat all the time,
Speaker:I have a very specific salami sandwich that I
Speaker:eat, which is salami, usually kosher salami,
Speaker:on white bread with mayonnaise, and that's it.
Speaker:That's it. And I
Speaker:cannot tell you when I started eating it. Actually, that's not true.
Speaker:That's not true. We were on vacation
Speaker:when I was a teenager, and it was the only thing that we had in
Speaker:the whole, like, little suite we were in. For some reason, my mom
Speaker:bought a, like, a log of salami. I don't know. Anyway,
Speaker:so I made a sandwich and I was like, this is good. And then I
Speaker:proceeded to eat that forever. So anyway, one time
Speaker:I'm making my sandwich and I did not realize that my dad was standing in
Speaker:the kitchen with me. And he looks at me and he's
Speaker:like, "What kind of sandwich is that?" And I was like, "Salami."
Speaker:He goes, "Wait, like salami
Speaker:on what?" He's like, "That's white bread." And I
Speaker:said, "Yeah, salami on white bread with—"
Speaker:mayonnaise. And he goes, salami
Speaker:on white bread, white bread with mayonnaise.
Speaker:And I was like, yeah, that's how I like my sandwich. And he looks me
Speaker:straight in the face and goes, that's antisemitic, and just walks away.
Speaker:I was like, well,
Speaker:I'm just I'm gonna, just gonna eat my hate sandwich then. It's just
Speaker:how I like to eat my sandwich. Apparently it was supposed to
Speaker:be on rye bread with mustard, which— ew.
Speaker:Ew. I don't mind mustard. Not on that sandwich. I don't want mustard on
Speaker:that sandwich. But rye bread, I can't do it. I understand that there's
Speaker:something wrong with my DNA coding that I,
Speaker:as a Jew person, cannot eat rye bread, but I do not like rye bread.
Speaker:It tastes like feet. Tastes like if you mixed
Speaker:feet with unground grain.
Speaker:I don't like rye bread. Sorry. So anyway,
Speaker:that was when my dad nearly disowned me over a sandwich.
Speaker:My dad loved me so much that he allowed
Speaker:me to live in his house despite my questionable choices. That should really
Speaker:be the punchline. So I have a genuine question about
Speaker:why brains are weird, or why they're weird in this way particularly.
Speaker:Or maybe this is just my brain. I don't know. Why
Speaker:does my brain think I hate water? Not like water in a swimming
Speaker:pool, like water in a cup. Because I swear to you,
Speaker:I will go somewhere and have a glass of ice water, and it will be
Speaker:like, what is this delicacy? And how do I get more of
Speaker:it? This is delicious. And then
Speaker:I go home and it's time to get something to drink and I'm like, blah,
Speaker:water, blah, I don't want that, blah. Or like,
Speaker:I have a fridge full of seltzer. I like seltzer. I like flavorless
Speaker:seltzer, just water and bubbles. It's a very
Speaker:Jewish thing. It's— I've drank seltzer my whole life.
Speaker:I really enjoy it. I don't
Speaker:want that. And then I drink it, and I'm like, this is amazing. Why don't
Speaker:I have this more often? Why does my brain
Speaker:think that I don't like water? Why is it
Speaker:that— that it's like, you definitely need to drink something
Speaker:full of sugar and other
Speaker:carcinogens, probably,
Speaker:instead of going to the fridge that is that
Speaker:like literally has access to cold filtered
Speaker:water that is delicious every time I drink it. You put a little
Speaker:ice in there and it's like, it's amazing. It's every, I
Speaker:rediscover it all the time. I'm like, this is so good. I should drink it
Speaker:more. And then the next day I'm like, blah,
Speaker:blah. Why does my brain do this? Does your brain do this about
Speaker:anything, particularly water, but anything? I need to know.
Speaker:Because I don't— I just, I would save myself a lot of time and money
Speaker:if I would just go to the fridge and get water. But I think about
Speaker:drinking water and I'm like, "Blah, gross." And then I drink it and I'm like,
Speaker:"Oh, this is quite nice. This is so refreshing. This is certainly more
Speaker:refreshing than the big gulp of
Speaker:aspartame that my brain wants to drink." And
Speaker:so anyway, I just need to know why that happens. And if somebody could fix
Speaker:it, that'd be great. Speaking of stupid things my brain does to me
Speaker:on the regular, once you start noticing them, it's like everything's a stupid
Speaker:thing your brain does to you. And I unfortunately have been paying attention to these
Speaker:lately, so this is fun. So
Speaker:I, LinkedIn has those like little games that you can play
Speaker:now. They're like little, and it used to be
Speaker:that they weren't connected to anybody. You would play them and other
Speaker:people would play them, but there wasn't like a leaderboard or anything. And you also
Speaker:don't have to participate in the leaderboard. Also, nobody pays attention
Speaker:to the leaderboard, but there are, I think there
Speaker:are 4 of them that I play. They usually take like 30
Speaker:seconds a day. This is not like, this is not like me devoting an
Speaker:hour to solving logic puzzles every day. Like my life is a logic
Speaker:puzzle. I don't need to spend that much time doing ones that are created for
Speaker:me, but it is kind of fun to just go on there and
Speaker:Whatever. And usually they're very quick and they scratch my brains
Speaker:in the way my brain needs to be scratched. And it's, it's very nice. And
Speaker:I always like to be under the daily average. So like if
Speaker:the daily average was 35 seconds, if I'm 34 seconds or less, I'm
Speaker:solid. And not that it matters, but like that's how I
Speaker:don't wanna be longer than the daily average. So most of them I like blow
Speaker:the daily average outta the water cuz I am I am very good
Speaker:at logic puzzles and nothing else. And so most of them I'm like
Speaker:way under, but they added a mini Sudoku
Speaker:in the last, I don't even know how long it's been a little while now,
Speaker:but they added one. I'm pretty bad at the
Speaker:Sudoku. Like I think I put way
Speaker:too much thought into it and it makes me very slow with the Sudoku. I
Speaker:figure it out. Don't get me wrong, I get there. But
Speaker:every day I finish the Sudoku and like brace myself
Speaker:because I'm like, oh my God, I'm gonna be so— I'm gonna be so much
Speaker:higher than the average. Oh my God, I'm gonna be mortified. And then I'm like
Speaker:a minute— like the average is 1 minute and 52 seconds and I'm like 2
Speaker:minutes and 45 seconds. And I'm like, this is the end, this is the end,
Speaker:my life is over. How could I possibly— nobody sees
Speaker:my fucking Sudoku speed. No one
Speaker:knows that I completed the Sudoku. Even if it goes on a
Speaker:leaderboard, no one's checking it. It's not like—
Speaker:there's no— there I am. I am like deeply mortified
Speaker:every day, so much so that I don't even want to play it. Not because
Speaker:I don't enjoy it, but because I am
Speaker:not fast enough at the Sudoku. This should not
Speaker:matter. The shame that I carry, and I wish I was
Speaker:joking about this, I have Sudoku shame.
Speaker:I make myself feel so bad because I'm not
Speaker:fast enough at the Sudoku, and I have to have like a pep talk
Speaker:every day. Like, that's just not how the brain works. That's
Speaker:okay. There's nothing wrong with that. Nobody else can do
Speaker:the snake one in 8 seconds. I can do the snake one in 8
Speaker:seconds. That should be enough, right?
Speaker:But the idea of some stranger on the
Speaker:internet knowing that I am inept at the
Speaker:Sudoku gives me a great sense of
Speaker:shame. Great enough that I almost don't do the
Speaker:Sudoku some days. And that is silly. It
Speaker:should not matter. Sudoku shame is not a thing.
Speaker:My brain is creating that. My brain is making me feel bad.
Speaker:For academia just to see what happens. There is
Speaker:no— there's no value to this thing. But
Speaker:every day I get done with it and I'm like, is this the day that
Speaker:I finally beat it? Then occasionally I do and I'm like,
Speaker:I'm getting good at it. And then the next day it
Speaker:doesn't matter. It's a brain game. It's just proving that my brain works.
Speaker:Brains that work slow still work.
Speaker:There's no additional value to my life or to my own person because I
Speaker:can do the Sudoku quickly. It's not a thing. It's not a
Speaker:thing. Anyway, if your brain beats you up over very
Speaker:stupid stuff, tell it to shove it.
Speaker:And you can take as long to do the Sudoku as you want, and that
Speaker:is more for my need to hear it than it is for yours, but you
Speaker:should also take it with you. It's
Speaker:just do the Sudoku. It's good for your brain. It might not be good
Speaker:for your ego, but it's good for your brain.
Speaker:That happened this morning. I was really disappointed in myself. It took me a long
Speaker:time to do the Sudoku. I was like, LinkedIn people are
Speaker:smarter than I am.
Speaker:Either that or they just are better at picking random numbers that happen to
Speaker:fit into the mini Sudoku.
Speaker:And now we'll go to Allison, who has this week's
Speaker:Small Talk. Okay, so we have a question from
Speaker:Devin in Pasadena, California.
Speaker:I'm scared of being seen trying. I'll work really
Speaker:hard in private, but the moment something becomes visible,
Speaker:I want to disappear. How do you let people see you without feeling
Speaker:exposed or ridiculous?
Speaker:Man, do I feel this. This is like my whole vibe.
Speaker:Like, first off, if I'm not immediately good at something, I don't wanna do it.
Speaker:I don't wanna try again. Like, and I see my 7-year-old doing that all the
Speaker:time and I'm like, oh, that's not great. Don't do that. Like if, if I
Speaker:have to work really hard at something, I immediately assume I'm a failure because I
Speaker:wasn't just good at it on the first try, which is like a thing. But
Speaker:I have always struggled, always,
Speaker:with the idea of looking like I
Speaker:think I'm good at something, something that like requires talent
Speaker:and that requires trying and it requires vulnerability.
Speaker:Because what if you're not good at it?
Speaker:What if, like, what if you decide you
Speaker:want to sing in front of a bunch of people and then you end up
Speaker:not being a good singer? Or, or
Speaker:why would— like, what if you made the presumption that somebody wanted to
Speaker:listen to you sing and you were wrong? How mortifying.
Speaker:That's how I felt. I'm not saying that that's actually true. That's how I always
Speaker:felt, is like going out of your comfort zone— not
Speaker:even out of your comfort zone, doing something that requires
Speaker:eyeballs on you makes the assumption
Speaker:that you think you have something to give them, something to offer them that
Speaker:they might want to take and, or
Speaker:they might want to consume. And that is
Speaker:that level of vulnerability. And I say this as somebody who literally shares my
Speaker:entire life into a microphone multiple times a week. That level of vulnerability
Speaker:feels like the end of the actual world to me, or at least it did.
Speaker:In some ways it still does.
Speaker:I think you're coming at it from the wrong perspective.
Speaker:I think it's not about figuring out how to not feel ridiculous,
Speaker:and it's about just getting comfortable feeling ridiculous.
Speaker:Like, you're gonna feel ridiculous all the time. I do it constantly.
Speaker:But what is the logical outcome? Or like, what's the
Speaker:worst thing that comes from you feeling ridiculous? Somebody else thinks
Speaker:you're ridiculous? Okay, fuck 'em.
Speaker:Most people don't care. Most people are not paying attention
Speaker:or they're like, it takes way too much thought to put emotional
Speaker:investment into whatever you are doing. They're busy paying attention to their
Speaker:own stuff. Nobody's paying attention to you. I actually learned this when I
Speaker:very, very start— first started sharing content on the
Speaker:internets, which was mortifying to me. And please
Speaker:note, I'm talking into a microphone right now that's going to get
Speaker:posted on the internet. So that was our starting point.
Speaker:I was like, people are gonna read this and they're gonna be mortified that
Speaker:I— they're gonna be mortified on my behalf that I thought
Speaker:I had anything to say. They're gonna be like, who is this chick?
Speaker:Why should I give a crap about what she has to say? She should be
Speaker:so embarrassed. And someone very early
Speaker:on said to me,
Speaker:You're not doing things because you're worried about what people are going to think, and
Speaker:they are not thinking about you. They don't
Speaker:care. There is nothing that you are doing that they give a
Speaker:shit about. And if you do anything big enough
Speaker:that they give a shit about, you've done something huge.
Speaker:People are not paying attention to you. And also,
Speaker:if they are paying attention to you, just to say something
Speaker:shitty, why do you care about their opinion if that's the type of
Speaker:people they are? So you just get used
Speaker:to feeling ridiculous. It's not a bad feeling.
Speaker:In fact, once you get used to feeling ridiculous and being comfortable with it, it's
Speaker:actually kind of fun. There's a lot of, you
Speaker:know, I say this as the person who again, doesn't like to put on
Speaker:shoes or pants and leave the house, but that's like
Speaker:That's not because I feel ridiculous doing it. That's not because I feel out of
Speaker:place. It's because it's a lot of work that I don't want to do.
Speaker:It's— if you were like, hey, we're
Speaker:going to go to this place and we're going to do a really stupid thing
Speaker:and we're going to wear sumo suits and jump around
Speaker:like crazy people and sumo wrestle in a
Speaker:giant sumo ring, I'd be like, done. Let's
Speaker:go do it. Sounds delightful. I'm on board. Because
Speaker:when you feel ridiculous, it's because you're probably having fun.
Speaker:You're probably moving outside of your comfort zone. You're
Speaker:probably doing something that is not anything that
Speaker:you don't have any sense memory on. You're not just repeating something over and over.
Speaker:You're doing something new. I don't think it's about figuring out how to not feel
Speaker:ridiculous. I think it's about figuring out how to do things when you feel ridiculous.
Speaker:Feel ridiculous, whatever. People who have negative opinions about
Speaker:that can get bent, and the people who love you will
Speaker:come be ridiculous with you, and the rest of the people
Speaker:aren't gonna be paying attention. And why are you making decisions for yourself
Speaker:over the responses of other people who don't matter? They
Speaker:don't matter. Go be ridiculous. The world needs a little bit more
Speaker:ridiculousness that is not tied to an orange wannabe
Speaker:despot with tiny hands. Go be ridiculous.
Speaker:He's really sensitive about his tiny hands, so I like to talk about them all
Speaker:the time. Also his cankles. Come at me,
Speaker:bro. I'd be much more likely to end up with RFK on one of my
Speaker:feeds because I talk so much shit about him very directly,
Speaker:but I'll take either. That would be like—
Speaker:that's the moment where I would die happy. Is when either of them know
Speaker:that some random woman with a microphone is talking shit about them
Speaker:on the internet without fear. Get fucked. All of a
Speaker:sudden, my birth certificate is nonexistent.