>> Cory Crowder: Hey, this is Cory Crowder, and you're listening to
Speaker:Chasing Birdies.
Speaker:>> RB: M.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: You guys out there tuning in today. We appreciate it
Speaker:very much. We're rolling here on Chasing
Speaker:Birdies. It's Thursday. We're stoked
Speaker:my man JP Is joining me bright and strong today.
Speaker:My man.
Speaker:>> RB: My man. What is going on?
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Shoot, dude, you know what's going on.
Speaker:We had a lot of good shit happening this past weekend, man, in the
Speaker:whole world of golf, which we'll get into.
Speaker:But, uh, tell me what's going on with you, man. You got the Red Vanley
Speaker:dialed in for the fall or what?
Speaker:>> RB: Yeah, that's what I was going to tell you is. This episode is brought to you by
Speaker:Red Vanley. Uh, make sure you go to redvanly.com, check
Speaker:them out, get your fall swag ready.
Speaker:It's starting to look cooler around here.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: I gotta tell you, though, man, it's kind of funny. I got the,
Speaker:um, the drop ship package by.
Speaker:By a gentleman that you and I both know. I'm not gonna say names.
Speaker:Appreciate it. Appreciate throwing some, some swag
Speaker:our way. Uh, and the shorts
Speaker:are kind of, you know, they were there.
Speaker:They're good. They're good.
Speaker:>> RB: Really good, actually. I wore the pants the other day, and they were
Speaker:dynamite.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Did you? That's funny. You wore pants
Speaker:in the summer.
Speaker:>> RB: Um, because I gotta work.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Did you go to work?
Speaker:>> RB: I was on the sales call.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Okay. Sales call.
Speaker:>> RB: But I do, I do. Um, I,
Speaker:I haven't told you yet, but our boy Gentry,
Speaker:you know, I, uh. The shoes that you got,
Speaker:I was a little jealous of. And I,
Speaker:I, I think he was even standing kind of close
Speaker:when I said, I got all whites.
Speaker:Well, but they're not yours. What just
Speaker:showed up. But they're pretty solid.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Oh, no. So, dude, let's see. You.
Speaker:Let me see.
Speaker:>> RB: I'm gonna show you that
Speaker:those are sick. All right.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: All right.
Speaker:Oh, uh, those are dirty with some reds on
Speaker:them. Yeah, those are dope. So
Speaker:cool. Too bad, Too bad. Nobody can see that
Speaker:them right now but me. You do that,
Speaker:though. I felt bad for you. I know. You were really kind of deflated there after
Speaker:you got your free pair of sick Jordans and then you saw my
Speaker:sick pair of Jord. Um,
Speaker:well, uh, you kind of felt. I feel you. I feel you.
Speaker:>> RB: I mean, the, the ones you have, though, they are.
Speaker:It's like, like you said, it's a paperweight. You'll never
Speaker:use them. Unless.
Speaker:That would be a great Augusta national shoe.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: I probably will wear them, but it's just Got to be the
Speaker:right conditions. I mean, you know, no mud.
Speaker:>> RB: Right.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: But honestly, dude, I don't know if I will. Because the fact that they say
Speaker:prototype, I don't know.
Speaker:>> RB: Promo sample.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Promo sample. Um,
Speaker:so whether or not they ever make it to market or not,
Speaker:who knows?
Speaker:But, uh, dude, I gotta clear the air a little bit with you
Speaker:here. Um, uh, I heard a
Speaker:rumor, and,
Speaker:uh, I
Speaker:reckon it's probably true, but I just needed to hear
Speaker:from you first. But, um. And obviously you're
Speaker:being. Being my best friend and
Speaker:half brother here and there, depending upon a day.
Speaker:Um, I'm kind of, uh, immune to this
Speaker:side of you. But is there a 40th
Speaker:birthday party that you're starting to plan already for yourself
Speaker:going on right now? Is that happening
Speaker:potentially?
Speaker:>> RB: You know, dude, I like to plan, and I like to get things on
Speaker:people's schedules. And, uh,
Speaker:that way, it's planned far enough advance. So far, we have two
Speaker:things planned next year. My 40th birthday and the Chasing
Speaker:Birdies 2 Man, July 6th. 26th. 28th, by the
Speaker:way. Um, but, yes, that is a
Speaker:fact. But like I said, dude, you got a million things
Speaker:going on in your life. The other's got a million things going in their lives.
Speaker:I like to just have it in concrete and ready to
Speaker:go.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Listen, dude, I. And I again, appreciate that. I
Speaker:just, you know, May. I know May will be here before you know it, but
Speaker:again, May is still, you know, nine months away. Like,
Speaker:you could have a kid right now, and you already got the bedroom done and.
Speaker:And the kid's name picked out. Um,
Speaker:so I just heard that. I heard some rumblings from some friends of ours.
Speaker:Mutual friends, you know, about your
Speaker:potential 40th. Sounds like it's gonna be a pretty
Speaker:epic. If you pull it off, which you will. You
Speaker:will. You know, the people in place. You will.
Speaker:So that's awesome, dude.
Speaker:>> RB: So, hey, that's great. I guess I'll see you there.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Yeah, you will. You will.
Speaker:>> RB: Uh, but let's get to, uh, what we need to talk about.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: All right?
Speaker:>> RB: The PGA Tour FedEx cup
Speaker:over. New PGA Tour season starts.
Speaker:Tommy Fleetwood, five days before
Speaker:he took the win, he said it'd be pretty funny
Speaker:to win this one. And guess what he
Speaker:did. He won it. I didn't
Speaker:even tell you this, but about a month
Speaker:and a half ago, old Tommy
Speaker:Fleetwood started working with the
Speaker:previous guest of ours. You want
Speaker:to guess?
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Well, Rotella.
Speaker:>> RB: Bob Rotella. So
Speaker:I, um, think, you know, that maybe helped him get over that hump a little
Speaker:bit. Focus a Little more in those last couple holes. But
Speaker:nonetheless, I loved watching to see him
Speaker:win. He deserves it. He. I'm
Speaker:so happy for that guy. Uh, and to win the FedEx cup did. What
Speaker:a time to win.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: I know, uh, what a time to win. I,
Speaker:I actually felt a little emotional watching him
Speaker:celebrate his victory because I was so. I
Speaker:kind of, I was very empathetic. I felt every
Speaker:emotion that he was feeling because I know that he has come so
Speaker:close. It's almost hard to believe he's.
Speaker:I just asked you this a couple of months ago on the show. I said,
Speaker:uh, that Fleetwood. What does he want? He's won.
Speaker:No, he's never won. Crazy.
Speaker:Um, so I felt, I felt it for
Speaker:him, dude. And I tell you what, man. I. Going
Speaker:into Sunday with him having that lead and
Speaker:I, and I read some things on the Internet with people making comments
Speaker:about, you know, at what hole is his putter gonna fall
Speaker:apart? You know, this, that and the other.
Speaker:And I just really felt like
Speaker:if there's gonna be a time for him to get it done, this is it.
Speaker:This Sunday is it. You know, you, you had
Speaker:Scheffler just far enough back that to where he was lurking.
Speaker:Make a move.
Speaker:>> RB: Well, he got working.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: He got it to 2 and then hit in the water.
Speaker:Um, I was so excited for him.
Speaker:And did you see, that's why golf's
Speaker:so great, is all
Speaker:of the fellow competitors.
Speaker:>> RB: Dude, we're so happy for him.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: They're just elated.
Speaker:>> RB: Justin Rose was literally filming him from his
Speaker:cell phone, his, his tapping.
Speaker:Everybody's so happy.
Speaker:So let me ask you this question. Now that we're talking about golf
Speaker:and you know, and the FedEx cup, and I think
Speaker:it might have already happened or, uh, or
Speaker:it's happening soon. If
Speaker:you're Keegan Bradley, are you
Speaker:taking yourself?
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Yeah.
Speaker:>> RB: Agreed. You're one of the best players in golf right
Speaker:now. Um, it'd be different if it was kind of like you
Speaker:were like 14, 15, right? Like you were kind of that,
Speaker:that line that was to, to be picked or not
Speaker:picked. But dude, he's a clear cut pick.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Ah, clear cut pick. He's playing his best golf at this point,
Speaker:his life. Obviously he has the
Speaker:tournament track record to prove it. Back it up. The fact
Speaker:that he's the captain they were talking about. Arne Palmer was the last
Speaker:captain player to do it back in 60s.
Speaker:Um, I don't think that there's any reason why
Speaker:he should not pick himself or shouldn't play.
Speaker:And that's not even an egotistical approach,
Speaker:you know, like doing something selfishly because you're in
Speaker:the power of the, uh, you hold the power in that position.
Speaker:I just think comparing everything. He
Speaker:should be playing on the Ryder cup team. No doubt about it.
Speaker:>> RB: Yes.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: And if he's not, I'll be shocked.
Speaker:>> RB: It's not an easy decision on his end. It's
Speaker:not. Because if he picks himself
Speaker:and they lose, you're full. If you
Speaker:pick yourself and you win, you're a genius.
Speaker:So it's, it's decision, um, hey, at
Speaker:least he has to make that decision. That's the other thing, right? He
Speaker:could have. Now he has to make a decision.
Speaker:So.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: But I will say that even if he doesn't pick
Speaker:himself and they lose, then you're going to still
Speaker:have. You could be able to come up with all kind of scenarios to
Speaker:point blame. I mean, the US should not lose this Ryder cup
Speaker:this year, uh, on American soil. They should not.
Speaker:Especially when a guy like McRoy is faltering week
Speaker:after week. Kind of the nucleus within the, that
Speaker:European team. You know, naturally they're, they're, they
Speaker:got a pretty good collectively record
Speaker:individually. I mean, Justin Rose has played in how many
Speaker:Ryder Cups? I mean, a lot.
Speaker:But I think the US should, no matter what,
Speaker:be able to, to claim victory. That's
Speaker:just my two cents for whatever it's worth as a
Speaker:amateur podcaster that talks about golf.
Speaker:>> RB: What about Patrick Cantley? Dude, I can't take it. I can't take
Speaker:him on the golf course. The waggles, this, that
Speaker:from the time that he grabbed the golf club.
Speaker:I forget. I saw it online. Somebody started recording, like,
Speaker:timing him. It was like 59 seconds from the time
Speaker:he had the driver fully out of his golf bag.
Speaker:Like. But you've hit the same shot the last three days. Why are we
Speaker:thinking about this? It's a Street par 4.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: When they, yeah, when they went to. When they were on number
Speaker:eight, that short par four, and they both hit driver and
Speaker:then the camera angle, like on the front of them
Speaker:can't lay. Looked like he, it looked like one
Speaker:of us swinging up there, like both of them
Speaker:blew it. Right. And it looked like two amateur
Speaker:golfers just trying to protect themselves from not going in the water.
Speaker:And they both let up on a swing and just smashed
Speaker:it. Right. Uh, I, I don't know, man. He, you
Speaker:know, it's, he's kind of hard to watch.
Speaker:Um, I just think because he's kind of, just doesn't have any
Speaker:swag about him, that's all. I mean, He's a. Look, he's
Speaker:a. He's a player, you know? I can't take that away
Speaker:from him. But just. There's just nothing to him, you know?
Speaker:He's just kind of. Kind of vanilla to me.
Speaker:Well, which I. I don't mind vanilla ice cream with some,
Speaker:like, sprinkles or Oreos, but.
Speaker:>> RB: But, um, I'll tell you who's not vanilla
Speaker:is our guest today.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Our guest today is not. Not vanilla at
Speaker:all.
Speaker:>> RB: Uh. Uh, you know, I met our guests,
Speaker:um, about a year ago, actually, funny enough, at
Speaker:Sage Valley, um, with a couple of the other
Speaker:guys. And, uh, today we
Speaker:have Corey Crowder
Speaker:on the pod. And, um, you know, he
Speaker:kind of was. He's close friends with one of
Speaker:the boys at Florida Georgia Line. It was funny, the story about
Speaker:him introducing him to this guy. They're forming
Speaker:Florida Georgia Line Band. And that's
Speaker:all she wrote. Right? And, uh, we all know where that
Speaker:went. That. That was incredible run for that
Speaker:duo. Um, but the guy loves golf. He
Speaker:lives down. Down there in Reynolds, uh,
Speaker:plantation member at Kuskawilla.
Speaker:I think I might be saying it wrong, but,
Speaker:um, yeah, that's where he's a member at.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Grammy nominee. Won five
Speaker:awards that basically no one can
Speaker:win in the music biz. Uh,
Speaker:he did it. He had the plaques to back it up.
Speaker:I gotta say, though, man, we do our guests, or not our guests,
Speaker:but our listeners a disservice often, because
Speaker:when we stop recording and we have our
Speaker:talk with our guests and we're just, like,
Speaker:recapping and shooting a shit for a minute,
Speaker:it's such good conversation,
Speaker:and it's never recorded. And
Speaker:this episode with Corey Crowder,
Speaker:when it ended, we talked for about another 10
Speaker:minutes. And it was
Speaker:gold. It was gold. And it's
Speaker:nowhere to be found anywhere
Speaker:in the ether. But it was great. But it was great
Speaker:talk. But enough of us talking,
Speaker:man. I'm ready to roll us in the Corey
Speaker:Crowder here on Chasing
Speaker:Birdies.
Speaker:You guys enjoy it,
Speaker:man, it's always good to have a guest on the
Speaker:show that not only did we not talk
Speaker:too much in the past or had on a show in the past,
Speaker:but bringing the roots back up from
Speaker:Nashville. And Grammy nominee
Speaker:Corey Crowder is here today on Chase
Speaker:and Birdies. He's done it all. We'll get into that whole
Speaker:thing. But, brother, man, it's finally so good to
Speaker:have you on Chasing Birdies. I know it's been. You know, it's.
Speaker:We've been trying. Let's put it to you that way.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Yeah. Yeah. It's good to be here. Thanks for having me.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: And I understand, uh, that,
Speaker:uh, the meeting of the minds between you and Pep happened on a golf
Speaker:course down in Sage Valley. What a
Speaker:coincidence.
Speaker:>> RB: Sage Valley brings everybody together.
Speaker:So, um, it's. Yeah,
Speaker:that's where it all happened. And it all started. Yeah.
Speaker:Me, Neil Walker,
Speaker:Cole, Taylor, Tyler, Reeve,
Speaker:Corey. I mean, I think all of us had to
Speaker:carry Cole, uh, Taylor back to the townhouse
Speaker:at one night. So that was good.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Does he get bent or what?
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: I don't know. I mean, he just never stops drinking beers. I mean, it's
Speaker:impressive.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: It really is.
Speaker:>> RB: He's so small.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: That's it, right?
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Yeah, he's got a way better tolerance than I do.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: I just don't understand that because,
Speaker:I don't know, some people just with their tolerance,
Speaker:it's actually impressive. Like you want to get. You want to tip your hat
Speaker:to them.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: It takes practice. Ryan.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Absolutely does, man.
Speaker:>> RB: Best part with him, though, is you never know when it's actually from
Speaker:alcohol or he's just taking a nap.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: I'm jealous of that. I couldn't take a nap if I tried.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Well, you got a little one too, right?
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: I've got a 12 year old boy and a 9 year old girl,
Speaker:so they're not really little anymore, but.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: But that 12.
Speaker:>> RB: His 12 year old son, uh, is wearing a size 13
Speaker:shoe bud. That's as big as you are.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Uh, that's. That is insane. Is that what you guys were talking
Speaker:about? He's wearing a 13 at 12.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: He's six foot tall and wears a 13. So he's raiding
Speaker:my shoe closet. Yeah.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: He's 12.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Yeah. Isn't that wild? Well, see, my
Speaker:wife. My wife is six foot tall. I'm
Speaker:six. Six. My dad's a huge
Speaker:guy. Laney's dad's a huge guy. So, like,
Speaker:you know, it's just genetics, man. He's. But he's
Speaker:going to fly by me. I mean, he'll be looking down on me for sure.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Yeah, there's no doubt about it.
Speaker:>> RB: Not that you're not treating your own son right, but you might want to think about
Speaker:that in the future of him putting you
Speaker:in a garbage can or something else.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: So, uh, I told him it's gonna be a long time before
Speaker:he can whoop his old man. I got the dad strength going
Speaker:for me.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker:Um, so, man, what's been going on with you
Speaker:in your world? You know, I know you. You stay wrapped.
Speaker:Wrapped in the music biz tuned in.
Speaker:Um, not playing. Trying to play on words there, but
Speaker:really, you know, you have a pretty successful
Speaker:career in the business. Um,
Speaker:and so, I mean, you still. What's your day to
Speaker:day? Like, I guess right now in 20, 25, and
Speaker:we'll get back to the start of it all, because I know Jonathan and I
Speaker:talked a little bit about you. You early on days,
Speaker:but, uh, like, right now. Corey Crowder, what is he working
Speaker:on, man?
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: So I, you know, about three years ago, I moved full
Speaker:time to Lake Oconee in Georgia.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Okay.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: So I did that. I mean, man, in Nashville,
Speaker:I was on the grind. Like, uh, so I'm a producer and a writer. So
Speaker:in Nashville, it was, like, constant. I mean, I opened
Speaker:the studio every day, and I shut it down every day. I was first, First.
Speaker:First to arrive, last to leave. Um, and
Speaker:I just. My kids were getting older, and I just
Speaker:decided, you know, man, I need a.
Speaker:I need to be able to, like, distance myself from this and
Speaker:not be on the grind every day of the week,
Speaker:24, you know, 24 hours a day. So, yeah, moving down here
Speaker:has been great. So we're from here originally, so, you know, getting back
Speaker:to, like, my kids are getting to grow up how I grew up
Speaker:small town, um,
Speaker:obviously obsessed with golf. And I'm, you know,
Speaker:we're in a heavy golf area.
Speaker:So I would say, you know, I spend a week a month in
Speaker:Nashville, and I pack sessions with, like, artists,
Speaker:writing sessions that, when I'm there. So I'm there next week for the whole
Speaker:week. Uh, and then when I'm here, I do this.
Speaker:I zoom with people. I zoomed, uh,
Speaker:actually two days ago with Cole Taylor and Thomas Archer.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Oh, nice.
Speaker:>> RB: Speaking of, man.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Yeah, dude, I love those guys. And so anybody that.
Speaker:Anybody I already have kind of a good relationship with,
Speaker:um, I'll zoom with them, and we'll either start songs
Speaker:or. Or finish them out and send them to artists. But,
Speaker:yeah, so my kind of day to day here looks
Speaker:like, you know, I play golf three days a week,
Speaker:uh, at least.
Speaker:>> RB: That's awesome.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: And then I, uh. And then I, you know, I'm on the
Speaker:grind when I'm in Nashville, and I get to, like, just, like,
Speaker:go full throttle while I'm there and then come back here and kind of take a
Speaker:breath and work at my own pace. I like
Speaker:it, man.
Speaker:>> RB: It's, uh, a.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: It's a nice break from the constant, you know?
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Well, I mean, you're living life. You're doing
Speaker:everything that you love. You know, you're in the place you want to
Speaker:be at. You're still doing what you are passionate
Speaker:about. You got the kids going on right now, and you love
Speaker:golf. You. And that's what so many people
Speaker:through life need to understand that, like,
Speaker:we're. We're not going to end up at one
Speaker:destination. Like, everyone's always trying to get to this. This is
Speaker:this. When I, When I get to this point, then I'll get that, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker:It's like you got to take what you have and kind
Speaker:of put the tunnel vision on and take that day by day and
Speaker:enjoy that. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Yeah, man, you spot on. Yeah. You know,
Speaker:it's easy to get, uh, caught up in that. You know, my. My goal
Speaker:was always, you know, oh, man, if I could just have one number one song.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Exactly.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Say I would feel different. And then you get the number one song and
Speaker:you're like, well, I didn't feel any different. Uh,
Speaker:I want five number one songs and then.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Right.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: I want a Triple Play Award. And then, you know, at every,
Speaker:every junction, you just are like, man, this is
Speaker:still, still the same, you know, so, yeah, uh, finding
Speaker:a ways to like, actually live life and
Speaker:focus, uh, on what's important while still, you know, staying
Speaker:after it's been.
Speaker:>> RB: For those of that are listening, can you
Speaker:explain the Triple Play Award? Uh, a lot of
Speaker:people might not know what that is.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Yeah. So, dude, when I first moved to town, I had
Speaker:a. I had an artist record deal.
Speaker:And one of the first things they did was they brought
Speaker:me to this thing called the Triple Play Awards, which means you had
Speaker:three number one songs in a calendar year,
Speaker:which is like, virtually impossible for a
Speaker:songwriter. A lot easier for. Yeah, like,
Speaker:a lot easier for an artist, you know, especially if you're a big artist,
Speaker:maybe. Um, but like, for a
Speaker:songwriter, it's just so out of your control. I mean.
Speaker:>> RB: Right.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Has really nothing to do with your work ethic or your
Speaker:songs or anything. It's just like luck,
Speaker:whatever you want to call it. Right. I mean, you just happen to
Speaker:land three radio singles that just so happened to go number one
Speaker:in the same year. Which is for me, it was
Speaker:always been like a sign of, like, that was always bigger
Speaker:to me than like a Grammy or a acm.
Speaker:Like, you know, those are cool. But like,
Speaker:that was the one that was like, man, if I'm ever there.
Speaker:So, like, the first time I saw that Luke Brown was on
Speaker:stage and, uh, man, it
Speaker:seemed like a million miles away from me, you know, because I was like, just getting
Speaker:to Town. I'm like this joker and all these guys that
Speaker:he brings on stage, they had three number one songs in a year.
Speaker:That's. That's wild. Um,
Speaker:and so, yeah, the year I got it, I had five in the
Speaker:year.
Speaker:>> RB: What.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Which was wild. Almost had a
Speaker:double triple play.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Holy hell.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Um, but it was.
Speaker:>> RB: So what were the five songs that. That you wrote that
Speaker:year?
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: So let's see. See if I can remember them. Long
Speaker:live Florida Georgia Line. Yeah, I love my
Speaker:country. Florida Georgia Line. Famous friends. Chris
Speaker:Young came around, drinking beer, talking.
Speaker:God. Amen.
Speaker:>> RB: Chase.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Uh, Rice. Florida Georgia Line. And then,
Speaker:um, there was one other, uh,
Speaker:missing. Let me look at it.
Speaker:>> RB: Just look at your wall. It's fine. It'll be hanging up.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: I remember the 5th, but it was like a. Ah, it
Speaker:was a close one, man. It was, um, a real
Speaker:close call. So.
Speaker:>> RB: That's insane.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: I mean, yeah, dude. I. That was
Speaker:like. That's, like, my most proud moment. Like, anybody that comes here to this room,
Speaker:I'm always like. Like, my buddies that don't know anything about
Speaker:music, I'm like, this little tiny award
Speaker:right here is, like. This is, like, the one.
Speaker:>> RB: This is everything.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: This is the one that I'm, like, proud of.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: That is.
Speaker:>> RB: Well, speaking of words, Bash, you should tell them your Tyler
Speaker:Reeve story. Um. What? He threw
Speaker:you?
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Oh, man. You know, we were at Old Hickory. This
Speaker:is back in. This is, like, Covid. This is, like,
Speaker:2020. And, uh,
Speaker:I'm in Nashville, and I set up some golf with Tyler
Speaker:over at, uh, Old Hickory. And
Speaker:we had already interviewed him on chasing birdies, like, right when
Speaker:we started. Um, but I had never
Speaker:met him, so, you know, I was like, hey, man, I'm coming
Speaker:down to Nashville, and let's play some G.
Speaker:Whatever. So we did. Well, we played
Speaker:golf, and it ended up turning into a hangout session at Old
Speaker:Hickory, naturally, which ended up turning into
Speaker:pool. Uh, or maybe it was darts, either
Speaker:way. But anyways, that turned into betting with tequila
Speaker:shots.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Oh, boy.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: And it got to the point where I
Speaker:completely quit drinking. It was my buddy and him that were going
Speaker:back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, and just doing
Speaker:these shots, one after another after another after another.
Speaker:Finally, I said, hey, man, I'm like. And mind you, again, this,
Speaker:uh. I'm like, I'm taking your keys because you are not
Speaker:driving home. Your wife's calling you. She wants to know where her grilled
Speaker:chicken salad is. That was three hours ago.
Speaker:So I'm gonna take your keys, and what we're
Speaker:gonna do is I'm gonna drive your ass home when you're ready to go. Because
Speaker:I was sober at this point. So,
Speaker:uh, at any rate, we left there and
Speaker:I drove his truck and he directs me to his house and
Speaker:he's dropping him off and he's like, come on in,
Speaker:guys. So we go in and
Speaker:naturally, uh, his wife was pissed, Ashley was not happy.
Speaker:And, um, Tyler, still yucking it up,
Speaker:you know, and pulls out the, uh,
Speaker:the necklace that he got for, in case you didn't
Speaker:know. And he like just launches it
Speaker:at me. Like, I'm like.
Speaker:And he. And he puts it on my neck and
Speaker:I felt like I'm in like WWF versus
Speaker:wcw. That's old school right there, by the way. Wwf?
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Oh, yeah.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: And I got the, uh, you know, the BMI thing on or whatever it
Speaker:was, boys for, uh, you know, number one hit,
Speaker:in case you didn't know.
Speaker:>> RB: And throw his Grammy at you, though.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: He. Well, I don't know if it was a Grammy. I don't remember
Speaker:specifically what it was, but no, he, he was throwing like these
Speaker:awards. Throwing awards at you, just like tossing
Speaker:them. Check this one out. Toss. And I'm like. And we're
Speaker:all like. But yeah, that was,
Speaker:that was pretty funny. And to this day he's like,
Speaker:that was one of the. That, that was the
Speaker:drunkest time I've ever been. Like, that was. That was it.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: That's saying something too.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: That is saying something.
Speaker:>> RB: Five in a year.
Speaker:Talking about mailbox money boys.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Justin Matthias, huh?
Speaker:>> RB: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Ah, giving you some lessons. There you go. Yeah,
Speaker:thank the number ones.
Speaker:But that's interesting, man, because. And I don't know
Speaker:at what liberty we can discuss it because we don't need to discuss
Speaker:it, but the reality is, is that that Florida Georgia Line
Speaker:run was some of the best popping
Speaker:music hitting the charts that we have seen.
Speaker:I mean, there's no. Nobody can argue that. I
Speaker:don't care. Um, when those two were together,
Speaker:and it's unfortunate, but shit happens, man. That's life. That's
Speaker:just the way it goes. But, um, you kind of were
Speaker:at the epicenter of that in some respect, if I understand
Speaker:correctly, with the start of fgl.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Yeah, I wasn't, I wasn't around for the start. But you know, when they,
Speaker:they, um, they opened a company
Speaker:called Tree Vibes Music, and it was like a
Speaker:publishing company. And so they had this
Speaker:badass building, uh, over in 21st
Speaker:Avenue, which is kind of like in between Belmont and
Speaker:Vanderbilt. And it was this super
Speaker:modern. They had bought this old school house and like, completely
Speaker:gutted it and made this killer spot.
Speaker:I mean, there'll never be anything that tops
Speaker:this, you know, five or six year period. Right? It was
Speaker:just. We were so. I had the. The big
Speaker:studio there with the guys that I.
Speaker:I lived in. That's the one I referred to opening and
Speaker:closing every day. Um,
Speaker:it was so. It was so awesome, man. And like, those guys were
Speaker:in, you know, they were in every day whether we were writing
Speaker:or not. I mean, it was like, you know,
Speaker:Hardy, Jordan Schmidt, uh, Ernest,
Speaker:me, um, Kanan Smith,
Speaker:the boys Redfer. And I mean, we were chilling on
Speaker:the porch every morning. That's crazy. You know, drinking beers in the
Speaker:afternoon. It was like we were, you know, playing each other the song
Speaker:we wrote that day. It was just a magical
Speaker:time that, like, Covid, honestly, kind of
Speaker:just squashed that vibe. Like there's not really,
Speaker:to my knowledge, not really another publishing company that's ever
Speaker:really felt like that. And it,
Speaker:uh, it was a bummer for that to get squashed, but it was. I'm glad
Speaker:we got to have it, but, man, those guys had this bus and
Speaker:they were the first ones to do it. We had a. So the tree vibes bus
Speaker:was just for the writers. And we had a studio on
Speaker:the front and a studio in the back, and so we'd bring
Speaker:like six of us out for the whole Florida Georgia
Speaker:Line tour. So it was like Wallen, Dan and
Speaker:Shea. Um, I mean, just,
Speaker:you know, those. Those tours were epic,
Speaker:obviously. And we were riding with some
Speaker:artist every single day in the front or back lounge. And then,
Speaker:you know, you'd play the song by the end of the day, like at the end of the night
Speaker:after the show would come in there and the demo would be done and we just
Speaker:all drink some beers and like, listen to the songs. And it was.
Speaker:Dude, it was so badass. Like, magical
Speaker:time period.
Speaker:>> RB: I mean, that. So many names you drop
Speaker:there. I mean, you think about that, that's what, six, seven years ago
Speaker:this was happening, right?
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Yeah.
Speaker:>> RB: I mean, you look at the names, some of the names that you mentioned there and
Speaker:where they're at now in their career,
Speaker:um, it's crazy. You know, people think that it's an
Speaker:overnight success. And, you know, you talk to,
Speaker:I think Ray Fulcher and even Tyler and Cole
Speaker:Taylor, they called Nashville a ten year.
Speaker:What is it? A ten year town.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Ten year town. Yeah.
Speaker:>> RB: And, uh, you look at a lot of those names, and it took about
Speaker:six, seven years for them to get where they're at.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Yeah, no It's. It's true. Yeah. Same happened to
Speaker:me. You know, I moved. I moved to town with a record deal
Speaker:and kind of, like, fell out of love with performing
Speaker:and, um, fell in love with, like, the studio and
Speaker:writing songs and. And so, yeah, it took me,
Speaker:you know, seven, eight years to get something truly rolling.
Speaker:You know, if you look from the beginning of it, um,
Speaker:from when I first moved it, you know, Cole Taylor is actually
Speaker:the fastest I've ever heard of. Like, he had
Speaker:Sipping on Fire within, like, a couple years.
Speaker:>> RB: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Um, just a crazy. You know, I just never
Speaker:happens.
Speaker:>> RB: So let me ask you. So whenever, you know, you were tied
Speaker:in with Florida Georgia Line from basically the beginning,
Speaker:um, and you were on that rocket ship, which had to be.
Speaker:You had to feel like you're invincible, right? Like, I
Speaker:mean, at some point.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Oh, yeah.
Speaker:>> RB: When Cole wrote Sipping on Fire, does Florida
Speaker:Georgia Line take that and, like, let you
Speaker:listen to it and you think this is what we should be doing type
Speaker:thing? Or is it just purely they're working hands on hands with
Speaker:Cole?
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Well, I wasn't around for that, for that song. But,
Speaker:um, so they were over at Big Loud at this time, and they
Speaker:had, uh. Cole had started that. I
Speaker:can't remember who he started that with. And then Rodney Claussen
Speaker:was over at Big Loud, and so I think they
Speaker:brought it to Rodney Clawson and he kind of helped him
Speaker:tweak it out. And then, yeah, he brought it over to Joey,
Speaker:Moy and Seth. Um, so
Speaker:I think Cole, you know, I don't think Cole had really any direct
Speaker:interaction with the boys, but that was probably more Rodney.
Speaker:Um. But yeah, I mean, dude, what a.
Speaker:I mean, I remember when that happened, I was so jealous just because I'm
Speaker:like, damn, I'm over here grinding. Cole moves town.
Speaker:He's just, boom, he has a hit. I mean, obviously
Speaker:Cole's one of my homies, so I was, like, mega excited for
Speaker:him. But, uh, I mean, it just seems so
Speaker:impossible, you know, Sometimes you're like, dude, it doesn't.
Speaker:It doesn't matter how good of a song I write today. It's like, never gonna
Speaker:happen.
Speaker:>> RB: You know, I think that the whole. Your whole
Speaker:song rights are so interesting because, like, even if I'm
Speaker:smoking a cigar, which you witnessed,
Speaker:I smoke a lot of them. Um, I sit
Speaker:there and I start putting a few words in my head. Like, I'll get to, like,
Speaker:word seven. I'm like, I don't know where to
Speaker:go from here. If I'm just, like, doing it in my head.
Speaker:And you guys write a whole damn song in two hours. And it's just
Speaker:like. And I guess there's four people that are helping or three people
Speaker:that are filling in gaps, whatever. But still, it is such a
Speaker:talent that I don't think people realize. I think by
Speaker:now a lot of our listeners know kind of
Speaker:what goes into the country music scene. But it is still.
Speaker:It's incredible what goes into a song.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Yeah, I mean, you know, I relate it to
Speaker:golf a lot because it's like you
Speaker:can't, you can't just like pick up a golf club like once
Speaker:or twice a year and, and do anything
Speaker:really. Right. So.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Right. 100.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: It's like, you know, I'm written thousands of songs at this point.
Speaker:So you kind of know how
Speaker:to get there from every spot. You know,
Speaker:it's like once you have an idea and you know, like where you're landing the
Speaker:plane, as we say, it's
Speaker:just. You kind of know how to get there and it's just really all about
Speaker:trying to do it a little different and say it just one,
Speaker:one tick different. But we're really all talking about the
Speaker:same shit. Just, you know, trying to say, uh, it
Speaker:just a slightly different, you know.
Speaker:>> RB: Right.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: No, I think the songwriting thing
Speaker:is incredible. It's. It's such a cool thing. I've
Speaker:been writing the same song now for 12 years. I got the same melody,
Speaker:the same chord progression, and I just can't put the
Speaker:right lyrics on top of it. But I do enjoy
Speaker:that aspect. For me, as a. As, you know, just a
Speaker:guy that plays the guitar, plays piano. I've done it
Speaker:virtually my whole life and I really appreciate music.
Speaker:Uh, I can't sing, but that's where you come in, Corey.
Speaker:If I want to cut an ep, I'm going to come to your studio and we're
Speaker:going to use all kind of, you know, technology
Speaker:now to really get my voice auto tune, for example,
Speaker:um, take out the nasally sound a little bit and kind of
Speaker:make that, uh, make that roll a little bit.
Speaker:And that was gonna be one of my questions to you now
Speaker:with, with the producing aspect of it, you
Speaker:know, with the way technology has advanced so much.
Speaker:I mean, not just from the 80s and 90s, but I'm
Speaker:talking in the last 15 years. Yeah.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Ah.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Um. Do you gotta keep on your game?
Speaker:Like, do you gotta go. And I don't want to say take
Speaker:continuing education, but is it more just about
Speaker:experimenting with stuff and seeing, you know, I mean,
Speaker:how does that work now with the way tech is advancing
Speaker:things, man.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: I mean this is, this is dating me a little bit. But
Speaker:like I had Auto Tune 1
Speaker:and I had. And I'm pretty sure, I
Speaker:mean we're on at least 12 now.
Speaker:Um, so I mean I had the first iteration of
Speaker:Auto Tune, the first iteration of Melodyne, which is another
Speaker:tuning and editing software. And like,
Speaker:yeah, dude, I've always been, I've always
Speaker:been good with computers so it's always kind of come a little natural
Speaker:to me. Um, but yeah, I,
Speaker:I stay up on it, I'm geeky about it. So me and I
Speaker:got, you know, my producer buddies and anytime we find some
Speaker:new tool that's, that's really helping
Speaker:and that we think is like legit, we, we kind of toss it around.
Speaker:Yesterday I was uh, talking about
Speaker:this new AI software with some guys
Speaker:just for, just for quick demoing or like if you
Speaker:want to pitch a song to a guy like
Speaker:you know, like Morgan for, for example, if you wrote a
Speaker:song from Morgan, like, well my, my voice is really different than Morgan's,
Speaker:you know, so like man, how do I sing
Speaker:this and him hear it and think
Speaker:I can hear myself doing that. Right? So it's really
Speaker:helpful to have like AI tools where I can,
Speaker:I can uh, take my voice and, and turn it
Speaker:into a different sounding voice that
Speaker:sounds a little bit more similar to what he would do. So maybe he's
Speaker:able to like hear it and actually listen
Speaker:to the song and not be thinking, oh, I'm not, I'm not going to sound like
Speaker:that, you know. So I mean I'm constantly evolving,
Speaker:uh, and trying to stay up on it. The technology
Speaker:changes literally by the month. I mean these,
Speaker:it's wild. Technology in the last five years
Speaker:alone has been psycho. How much has changed?
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Oh, it's, it's, it's with everything though.
Speaker:>> RB: I mean every, the AI thing I think is really scary.
Speaker:I think it's obvious, it's good, but it's also really
Speaker:scary what these AI things can
Speaker:be done. Um, even with photographs,
Speaker:um, and music and all that,
Speaker:it's um, it's cool. But again,
Speaker:it's concerning a little bit.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Yeah, it's a lot of bit concerning. I mean as long as we get
Speaker:legislation around, it would be good. Um, the
Speaker:problem is we're always so behind. We're
Speaker:still trying to catch up to streaming royalties
Speaker:for writers. So it's like. And how long has
Speaker:streaming been around? We're still,
Speaker:we're so behind and it's just part of it.
Speaker:Um, so just trying to stay
Speaker:Use it as a tool and not
Speaker:hate it and resent it. It's really tough. Um,
Speaker:like, if you were to see my studio right now, like when I.
Speaker:My. My old studio maybe like five or six years ago, had like
Speaker:tons of rack gear everywhere. And like,
Speaker:I don't have any of that. I sold it all because there's really no
Speaker:need for it. It's all. It's all in this computer now. You know, it's
Speaker:like crazy. And there's no hiss, there's no,
Speaker:you know, dirty pots where you turn it and it. It
Speaker:won't work. And it's just always perfect.
Speaker:And it sounds exactly like the
Speaker:real piece of gear, you know?
Speaker:>> Jonathan: So, uh, are you using. What. Do you use Pro Tools or what? What. What
Speaker:is it?
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: I'm in Logic, so.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Logic.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: I made records, like the first few Chris Young records I did,
Speaker:I did in Pro Tools. And it just like, never
Speaker:felt really comfortable.
Speaker:Um, almost like to liken it to
Speaker:golf, it was like playing like a standard size
Speaker:set of clubs. Whereas, like now I'm in like 2 inch longer
Speaker:with big grips. And it's like.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: It's a great analogy.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Yeah. So, like, you know, it's like you can do it, but you're just
Speaker:constantly uncomfortable. And
Speaker:so, like, Logic. Once I figured out that I could make
Speaker:records in Logic because it's just more intuitive for my
Speaker:brain, uh, I just made the
Speaker:switch and records tend to turn
Speaker:out more like I. Like, I want them to that way,
Speaker:I think.
Speaker:>> RB: Uh, yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: What were you gonna say?
Speaker:>> RB: Pep? Sorry, I was going. I was going to ask about the.
Speaker:The where country music is right now. I
Speaker:feel like it is on top of the world.
Speaker:Um, yeah, I feel like all walks of life are listening
Speaker:to country music. Um, you know,
Speaker:and actually, I would probably say it all kind of started
Speaker:with Luke Bryan, Florida Georgia Line. Those guys kind of have
Speaker:propelled it. And now your
Speaker:Luke Combs and Morgan Wallins have kind of like
Speaker:taken and taken it. Um, because,
Speaker:dude, there's. In Pittsburgh, there's four or five
Speaker:country music stations just in Pittsburgh.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: That's wild.
Speaker:>> RB: And, um, I feel like country music
Speaker:is in a incredible spot right now.
Speaker:And. And what are you seeing from your
Speaker:side of it? Um, do you feel like when
Speaker:you're on the inside, are you feeling that?
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Yeah, there's all these, like, little sub genres within
Speaker:country now. You know, country is like kind of a
Speaker:pretty wide term, whereas, like, you know,
Speaker:in the 90s, it all kind of sounded similar. And then
Speaker:like, I. I feel like Garth
Speaker:Brooks if you just think about, like,
Speaker:the music before Garth Brooks and then, like, after Garth
Speaker:Brooks, like, it really kind of shifted. Uh,
Speaker:it like Garth kind of brought it to, like, that
Speaker:stadium, uh, performer kind of, you know,
Speaker:wearing the headset, you know? Um, I just feel
Speaker:like it really changed. I mean, I remember. Do you remember
Speaker:Tim McGraw? I think it was Tim McGraw and Nelly
Speaker:did a song together.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Um, and that, like, blew my mind. And then.
Speaker:Yeah. All in my head, I think, as well.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Over and over again.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I think
Speaker:that was, like, the beginning of the shift, you know, and then. But I
Speaker:do. I think you're spot on. Like, the bro country
Speaker:movement of, like, Luke Bryan and FGL
Speaker:opened it up to, like, guys that were into hip hop, that were like, dude,
Speaker:this actually. I can actually feel this.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: The crazy thing is. Now. Is
Speaker:that what you just said? Like, you're seeing,
Speaker:like, marshmallow, you know, the DJ EDM
Speaker:rolling in with some of these boys doing some
Speaker:cuts. You know, you mentioned the rappers and
Speaker:then take it a step further. Look at Shibuzi himself.
Speaker:Mean, my man's got the hip hop flow going on the country, and he's blown
Speaker:up. Yeah. Uh, you know what I mean?
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: So it's kind of transcended into all these different avenues.
Speaker:Like, it's almost like the country.
Speaker:Like, I hate to say it, and I'm probably not right
Speaker:in saying this, but it's almost like if you listen to the highway on
Speaker:Sirius, that's not country. That's like
Speaker:a different genre of country. Like, it's country,
Speaker:but it's not, like, turning on, you know,
Speaker:Willie's Roadhouse or some shit like that.
Speaker:You know what I mean?
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: No, I do. Uh, I think you're right. Um,
Speaker:the cool part for me, like, I know a lot of country purists hate
Speaker:it, but I think it's cool, man, because it, like,
Speaker:country is like the last spot where, like, lyric really
Speaker:matters, you know? Um,
Speaker:where, like, a lot of people that have never listened to country that start
Speaker:listening to it, they're like, man, I just like the stories and, like,
Speaker:the. The words. Um, there's not used to
Speaker:that in other genres. And so it's like the last kind
Speaker:of space for that. So that's kind of the thread that
Speaker:I feel like, connects all of them is that, like, lyric kind of matters
Speaker:still, you know? That's true, but there's all these sub
Speaker:genres. So, like, you got Zach Topp, who's, like, super
Speaker:traditional. You got Zach Bryan, who's super, like, folky
Speaker:um, and yeah, you got Shaboozy and, and
Speaker:uh, and you know, Wallen that are doing, you
Speaker:know, leaning kind of hip hop at times. And like, I just think it's
Speaker:cool because it's, it's given country a place
Speaker:where like, anybody can like it, you know?
Speaker:Yeah, I think that's, I think it's a good thing. I
Speaker:see it as a good thing.
Speaker:>> RB: Some of the boys, I, I never even heard of Don Williams before.
Speaker:Hanging out with some of those boys, uh, you know, Tyler and
Speaker:all them, and they got me on this Don Williams kick
Speaker:the guy. It's, it's like your grandfather's talking to you.
Speaker:I mean, Tulsa time and I hope
Speaker:today's gonna be good and all this other stuff.
Speaker:Literally, I'll sit on my patio and smoke a cigar while I'm trying to
Speaker:write a five word song,
Speaker:um, and listen to Don Williams and
Speaker:you think like, this was country music back in the day.
Speaker:Yeah, it's so cool.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Yeah, man. I, you know, I listened to those songs
Speaker:growing up and my, my parents were, were kind of
Speaker:into southern rock and old country and
Speaker:it didn't really mean anything to me at the time. But,
Speaker:um, listening to those songs again as like a,
Speaker:you know, a songwriter now, you realize
Speaker:like how awesome it was and like how,
Speaker:I mean, how great the songs were.
Speaker:And so, yeah, I'm able to appreciate it at a whole
Speaker:new level at this age than I did, you know, as a
Speaker:kid.
Speaker:>> RB: It's probably like that in golf for you too, right? Like, as a kid,
Speaker:you're just, we were all little shitheads going out there smacking
Speaker:balls around and not paying attention. And this sport's
Speaker:stupid and this, that and the other. Now we're all
Speaker:in, uh, on golf. And I feel like
Speaker:golf and country music have a similar,
Speaker:um, outcome during COVID
Speaker:Um, you know, country music kind of skyrocketed during COVID
Speaker:and golf clearly
Speaker:went nuts during COVID because it was the one sport
Speaker:people get out there. We all wore face masks. They all
Speaker:put the little, um, pool
Speaker:noodle in the hole. So I don't even understand the reasoning
Speaker:behind that. Um, but I feel like there were
Speaker:some similarities there.
Speaker:Has golf always been kind of on your radar
Speaker:or when you got to Nashville, was that like, all
Speaker:right, this is my off day, I'm going to go peg it up a little
Speaker:bit, man.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: I started playing when I was a kid. One of my best
Speaker:friends growing up, Blake, was, uh, he was always into
Speaker:golf and really good. He brought me to my first
Speaker:tournament. I went to the Bell South Classic in
Speaker:Gwinnett over in Georgia, and watched Tiger
Speaker:back in his heyday and just got the bug.
Speaker:And I was terrible. I mean, I played in high school, but our high school
Speaker:was so small that, like, if you try it out, you made it.
Speaker:Um, and so I was. You know, I had a
Speaker:complete baseball swing. Kind of. Kind of still do.
Speaker:Uh, but it was, uh, you know, like you say. It
Speaker:was just. I had no idea what I was doing. You
Speaker:know, anytime I made good contact, it was all luck.
Speaker:Um, and then, yeah, I couldn't really afford to play
Speaker:golf for a long time. You know, chasing music down, you
Speaker:know, you go through, you know, the brokest of
Speaker:broke periods in your life, so I couldn't afford to play golf.
Speaker:So, yeah, when I was in Nashville, it wasn't really on my
Speaker:radar, to be honest. It was something,
Speaker:uh, I loved, but that I just considered I had no time for.
Speaker:Um, and then once I started,
Speaker:we bought a place down here at the lake at the beginning of
Speaker:COVID And, dude, down here, it was like
Speaker:Covid didn't exist. You know, in Nashville, we were, like,
Speaker:in masks and, like, taking tests every time we had
Speaker:a cough. You come down here. Like, the restaurants were
Speaker:slammed. There was no pool noodles in the holes
Speaker:there. It was like.
Speaker:>> RB: There was no Covid in Georgia.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: No. At least not in this part of Georgia. And
Speaker:so I just started spending a lot more time here. And
Speaker:then I got the golf bug bad. I started
Speaker:playing with one of my buds, uh, Sterling, and we just.
Speaker:Dude, it. It just. I turned into an
Speaker:obsession, so I. It became my life
Speaker:goal. I was like, all right, I've already had success in music. Now
Speaker:I want to be a scratch golfer. So I started.
Speaker:>> RB: And how are we. How are we tracking on that right now,
Speaker:man?
Speaker:>> Jonathan: I was.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: I got down to a four last year, and I'm back up
Speaker:to high sixes this year. You know,
Speaker:that's just what happens, right?
Speaker:>> RB: Uh, my man Justin. My.
Speaker:We got a mutual friend in Justin who I believe gives you lessons.
Speaker:We talked about that when I saw you at Sage Valley.
Speaker:Such a good kid.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Oh, man, did you see he almost won the tournament?
Speaker:>> Jonathan: I. I saw he posted something. He
Speaker:was like, what did he. Seven under.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Seven under. And he lost on the third hole of the playoff.
Speaker:Yeah, I saw that, dude. Our whole club at Cusco Willow
Speaker:was, like, rooting him on. Like, we were watching it. Me and. We had dinner over at
Speaker:my buddy's house, and, uh, we were, like, watching it
Speaker:the whole time. Like, I know he was Bummed to get that
Speaker:close and not win. But, like, I was like, man, you're there now.
Speaker:Like, you got the taste of it now, huh?
Speaker:Yeah, but, yeah, he's a great teacher, and he'll, like, go out on the
Speaker:course with me and my son and, like, he'll teach us. And
Speaker:if I play with him, he'll always say, you know, you're coming over the
Speaker:top or whatever.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Yeah, he's, he's, he's great. He's great
Speaker:people, man. Yeah, I spent some good, good bit of time with
Speaker:him. He was a Pete Dye Golf Club here in Bridgeport, West
Speaker:Virginia. So I got to know him for a couple
Speaker:summers, played in a couple events with him. But I, uh,
Speaker:think he was at Trump before he came to Georgia.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: I think so. Yeah.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Um, if I, if I'm correct, but,
Speaker:but no, dude, chasing the golf bug, man. It's like, you know, we
Speaker:do that all the time. And, and for
Speaker:anybody, whether you're a scratch or you're trying to get
Speaker:better, I mean, you're always going to sit there and think about
Speaker:your golf swinger or what I need to do, like,
Speaker:right now, my whole career of playing
Speaker:golf, Corey, which has been a long time.
Speaker:Okay. I'm 38 years old. I probably started
Speaker:swinging when I was six or eight. I mean, really,
Speaker:I was. I had strong grip and
Speaker:I dropped the club under, and I always. My miss was always
Speaker:these, like, gnarly snap hooks. Um, but
Speaker:I would. When I would swing the right way, I'd hit a nice
Speaker:little draw, you know? Nice draw. Well, for the last
Speaker:three and a half years, I can't hit
Speaker:a draw with my driver to save my
Speaker:life. In fact, my driver now is
Speaker:like, I. I have to set up left
Speaker:because I know it's pilling, right? And there's times
Speaker:where it's like, I hate that. And people are
Speaker:like, oh, man, that's a nice little ball flight you got there. And I'm
Speaker:like, well, is it really? Because I want to see it going right to left. I
Speaker:can't get it right. Right to left, dude. It's
Speaker:unbelievable.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: You would hate Cusco. It's, uh, every hole set
Speaker:up right to left, I've had to learn how to
Speaker:hit a. I mean, my natural ball flight is a, uh, is a cut,
Speaker:just like you and I. I've had to learn how to hit a little
Speaker:draw just because otherwise I would be in the rough every
Speaker:time. So it's like.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: But it's so frustrating.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: It is frustrating and always greener. Right?
Speaker:I look at Guys that hit draws. And I'm like, oh, that's.
Speaker:That's sweet. But, yeah, I'm the same. I'll hit my little
Speaker:buttercut. And they're like, oh, man, I love that. I'm like, well, it doesn't
Speaker:go anywhere.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: You know, And I get reminded often because sometimes I
Speaker:like to bitch a little bit about, you know, my golf game, and I get
Speaker:reminded, hey, buddy, you still pay to play, so. What are you talking about? I'm
Speaker:like, you're right. You're absolutely right. Like, um, I don't make money
Speaker:playing golf, but. But we care as golfers, you
Speaker:know? We care.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Yeah, we. We. We always joke from, like, you'd be playing for,
Speaker:like, five bucks, and your freaking hands are shaking
Speaker:over the putt, and you're like, this is
Speaker:$5 putt.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: And I'm.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: It's. But to me, it's, like, so serious, you know?
Speaker:>> RB: But you walk out on stage with 20,000 people and play a
Speaker:song.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Yeah, that's easy.
Speaker:>> RB: Yeah, it's. It's so funny playing with people
Speaker:from, uh, other, you know, walks
Speaker:of life. Your hockey players, your baseball players, your
Speaker:football players. They get so nervous on the golf course,
Speaker:and yet they can go play in front of
Speaker:60,000 people and not bat an eye.
Speaker:It's because it's so natural to you guys.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Yeah, you're right. There's something about golf, man. It's like. It's so
Speaker:unforgiving, you know, it just expo. And it's just you against
Speaker:you.
Speaker:>> RB: Yeah, well, and that's the thing, too. Like, again, I go back to
Speaker:this. Golf aligns with country music. You know, you look at.
Speaker:Everyone wants to be a part of country music right now. You look at,
Speaker:um. Man, what's her name? Ella Langley. Just came out with that
Speaker:rap song with some guy,
Speaker:um, Wallen.
Speaker:Yeah, Wallen's with rapper.
Speaker:You look at the golf thing. Everybody wants to play golf.
Speaker:All walks of life. NFL players, Major league baseball
Speaker:players, they all want to play golf. And, uh, it's really
Speaker:cool to see.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: It is, man. I was watching that creator, uh, classic
Speaker:earlier today, like, catching up on it. And it was yesterday,
Speaker:but I was just kind of catching up on it, and I'm thinking,
Speaker:man, look at all these people out watching YouTube.
Speaker:Golfers, right?
Speaker:Um, how cool is that?
Speaker:>> Jonathan: It is. And honestly, I would love to get
Speaker:a crack at that one day, because I feel like 90 of
Speaker:them, you.
Speaker:>> RB: Know, we would say, good. Yeah.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: I mean, Grant Horvath obviously is. Is a baller,
Speaker:but.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Um, some of these other Jam Oaks.
Speaker:Like, I take it. I take him straight up.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Yeah, no, I'm with you. There's no requirement. Like
Speaker:the. The Bob does sports guys are some of my
Speaker:favorite. Like, the breezy guys are some of my favorite guys to watch
Speaker:because they're. I mean, FP is pretty good,
Speaker:but, like, other guys are like me, you know, they're
Speaker:just not very good. And you're going like, I
Speaker:love this. But that's what makes them fun to watch. Because it's.
Speaker:>> RB: Right.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: It's fun to watch guys that are, uh, you know, you feel like,
Speaker:oh, I could beat them.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Yeah. And. And I love all the shit they
Speaker:do. It's. It's actually been great for
Speaker:golf, like you just said. I mean, that's why. Because
Speaker:people tune in, pay attention to it. It's really good content.
Speaker:I mean, I just would love a crack
Speaker:to play Some of these boys. Me and Pep,
Speaker:take them on.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Go get in it, dude.
Speaker:>> RB: Come on.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Uh, I know. Where's the. Where's the applica. Hey, anybody out there
Speaker:listening? Send me the application.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Hey, I'll be your caddy. I'm a great caddy.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: That's right.
Speaker:Hey, I saw something interesting today,
Speaker:uh, and this is totally off topic. We'll get back.
Speaker:But I was thinking about it. I want your guys opinions or not even
Speaker:opinions, but you know how motorcycle bikers, man, they're all like
Speaker:gangs and they're all boys. Like, when a biker passes
Speaker:another biker, what's the thing they do? They put
Speaker:their arm out.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: So I always thought, like, I wonder if garbage truck drivers do the same
Speaker:thing. And finally,
Speaker:finally today, I'm behind a
Speaker:big dumpster and the other
Speaker:dumpsters coming my way, and I'm like, here we go.
Speaker:Are they gonna fucking dab up right now?
Speaker:Nothing. Uh, the truck passed by, didn't even
Speaker:look at the other garbage truck driver. Didn't even care.
Speaker:But I just always wondered that about these
Speaker:garbage guys because of, you know, competition.
Speaker:>> RB: It's like the tight lip head nod that you do. You'll
Speaker:catch your. You m. From the time we have this
Speaker:conversation, you will catch yourself doing it a million times a
Speaker:day where you just tight lip head nod to somebody on the golf
Speaker:course and it's like.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Or anywhere.
Speaker:>> RB: Anywhere.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Yeah. If you see somebody with a rope hat on out
Speaker:of public, that's me.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Yeah, you just give them the head nod.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: My daughter drives her crazy. She's like, do you know that
Speaker:person? I'm like, no, no. It's just like, well, why did
Speaker:you. What'd you Just do. And I'm like, oh, we're just
Speaker:acknowledging each other. We're saying, what's up?
Speaker:He's like, why? You don't know them? I'm like, well, they play
Speaker:golf. How do you know? I just know.
Speaker:>> RB: Yeah, you know. You know,
Speaker:But I'll tell you that, you know, the golf experience,
Speaker:Ryan just got to experience, uh, Sage Valley. But,
Speaker:um, man, what an experience.
Speaker:Sage Valley is, uh, from
Speaker:top to bottom, you know, I know that we. We. We
Speaker:didn't play the big course together. We played the part three together.
Speaker:And that's a ball. It stays open till 1am
Speaker:Problem is, if the lights go off, you're screwed. But,
Speaker:um, that whole setup from top
Speaker:to bottom is 15 out of 10.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Oh, man, you're right. Yeah. From the second you get there,
Speaker:like, I. I rolled in, and
Speaker:I'm like, calling Cole. I'm like, where do I go? And he was like,
Speaker:you'll see it. And I roll in, and, like,
Speaker:I open my door, and they're like, hey, Mr. Crowder. And I was like,
Speaker:how did you know who I was? Uh, and they.
Speaker:They were like, we. We were expecting you. And then they. They take
Speaker:my bags. And I was like, where are you taking that? He was
Speaker:like, we're taking to your cabin. I'm like, how do you. How do you know where I'm
Speaker:staying? We know where you're staying. I was like, well, uh, at
Speaker:least.
Speaker:>> RB: I knew you were going. They didn't know that Neil Walker and I were coming.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: I know.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: They. They not only know where you're staying, Corey, they
Speaker:know what bedroom to put your in.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: It's wild. I mean, I'm like, how did they know
Speaker:what size I wore? Like, they had
Speaker:my size shirt on the bed. I'm like, how did they know
Speaker:that?
Speaker:>> RB: We, uh, got none of that, by the way.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Yeah, you got. Y' all got the shaft a little bit, but that made a
Speaker:Taylor.
Speaker:>> RB: Well, you let Cole Tyler said, why did you have Cole
Speaker:responsible for this? And then I looked at Cole
Speaker:as he was slumping in his chair, and I'm like, you know what? He's
Speaker:right. Why did I even put this in his hands?
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Yeah, that's funny.
Speaker:>> RB: Literally, nobody knew we were coming. I don't even think
Speaker:the host knew we were coming.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Who hosted you guys?
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: We, um, were just talking about, um, Kip Plowman.
Speaker:>> RB: Kip? Yeah. Kip Plowman.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Great.
Speaker:>> RB: He was at the, um. He was at the charity event with Chris Collins. He
Speaker:rode on the bus with us.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker:>> RB: That's Kip and his son was a punter at Texas A.
Speaker:All that stuff, dude. But literally nobody knew we were coming.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: That's hilarious. I forgot about that.
Speaker:Yeah. Tyler's like, why didn't you. Why didn't you just ask me?
Speaker:>> RB: Like, we followed up with Cole four times.
Speaker:We're good. We're good. Yes, you're good. Everybody's good.
Speaker:Front gate. Didn't know we were coming. Didn't know where we were
Speaker:staying. We basically slept on the couch because
Speaker:all the beds are taken care taken. I mean, it was
Speaker:just. But all in all, all that Aside,
Speaker:it was 15 out of 10. I mean.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Yeah, man. Getting to play with Fury was cool,
Speaker:too.
Speaker:>> RB: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: He, uh, came and played, like, three or four holes with
Speaker:each group.
Speaker:>> RB: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Ah, I can't believe, you know, I couldn't believe, like,
Speaker:A, how cool he was, B, how close he stands to the
Speaker:ball. That blew my mind.
Speaker:>> RB: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Close.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: He stands so close to it.
Speaker:>> RB: So close it.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: But I'm like, oh, maybe I stand too far away from the ball.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Yeah. See what I mean? You start doing like that.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Does he still loop it pretty good?
Speaker:>> RB: Oh, yeah.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: That swing is so, like, oh, uh.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Dude, I watched him play because. So we get to this
Speaker:part three, he's playing, and, you know, we watched
Speaker:him play with, like, the two groups in front of us because it was kind of an
Speaker:experience. So, like, he kind of built up there at the par threes. We were like, couple
Speaker:groups. So you, like, watch him. He puts it right of the
Speaker:hole, three feet. Um, the next group
Speaker:puts it right of the hole, three feet, Plays with our
Speaker:group, right of the hole, three feet. You know, you're like, dude,
Speaker:like, I couldn't hit it in the same spot three times if you.
Speaker:For a million dollars.
Speaker:>> RB: So it's in. Dude, he's just slots it every
Speaker:time, loops it. He's from, uh,
Speaker:our area here in Pittsburgh, so we had a nice little connection
Speaker:with. With Jim and Neil.
Speaker:Uh, drinking some beers. It was cool to hear some stories from
Speaker:the. From the Ryder cup with Jim.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Yeah, he did that little Q and A. I thought it was, you know,
Speaker:it was interesting for me is Tim talking about how many
Speaker:different golf balls are played on tour and how,
Speaker:like, that impacted his choice on who
Speaker:put him together, because the
Speaker:alternate shot, you don't want, like, a high spin ball and a
Speaker:low spin ball branding with each other.
Speaker:>> RB: Well, the crazy thing is he said Brian Harmon
Speaker:still uses a, uh, 2017 Pro V1, so he was having
Speaker:a hard time getting those balls to ship to other players
Speaker:to, uh, for them to try out. There was, I think,
Speaker:uh, 12 guys on the team. I think he said they had 11 different
Speaker:golf balls.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: That's wild.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: How do you go about getting a ball from 20? Like, you
Speaker:call Titleists up, obviously?
Speaker:>> RB: Well, we don't do that. But when you're Brian Harmon, you want to bridge open,
Speaker:like, Right, that's fine.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Right. They got a little compartment for him, but, I mean, just the
Speaker:patenting and the. The polyurethane shit that
Speaker:goes in the ball and, and. And just.
Speaker:I don't know. That's. That's pretty wild.
Speaker:>> RB: They probably.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Yeah, you would think. You would think. All their machines are upgraded now, and
Speaker:they're like. They can't, like, go backwards and
Speaker:duplicate it.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: That's what I mean.
Speaker:>> RB: Or they probably shut down production and make
Speaker:200 dozen for Brian Harmon.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Yeah, I played with. I, um, was
Speaker:playing with a guy on Saturday, and I
Speaker:got up to green on the fifth hole, and I look at the boss. It's
Speaker:Trixon. I mean, there's only one guy I know that plays fricks on it's
Speaker:BCATs, because he used to get them sent bulk for free.
Speaker:So I'm like. I'm like, hey,
Speaker:Ry, what's up with the Strix on, bud? Not that I care. I just
Speaker:was curious. Right. He normally played Titleist. He said, dude, I've
Speaker:picked up 5 to 10 yards with this ball
Speaker:off of every club that I've used. He
Speaker:said, in the field around the green is excellent.
Speaker:I said, wow, that's impressive. I mean, I know
Speaker:you got some guys like, what, Koepka and, um,
Speaker:Matsuyama Hideki uses tricks on. I don't know who else,
Speaker:but that's just something you don't see, you
Speaker:know?
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: No, no. And you don't. I. I just
Speaker:switched over to the Callaway Chrome Tour Triple
Speaker:Diamond. Have you heard about that ball yet?
Speaker:>> Jonathan: No.
Speaker:>> RB: Is it lower spin?
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Yeah. So it's kind of like the Pro V1, uh, left
Speaker:dash. Yeah, it's like their version
Speaker:of it. But, dude, uh, one of the guys at our club,
Speaker:uh, one of our pros that works with Justin, told me about it.
Speaker:He was like, man, I know your game. You need to hit this ball. And,
Speaker:yeah, like you say, I picked up 5 to 10 yards
Speaker:and I can't believe it. I mean, it's. You
Speaker:wouldn't think a ball would matter that much, but
Speaker:when you set up.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: When you set up to play golf with someone and you see them teeing
Speaker:it up with a yellow ball, doesn't care about the brand, but you
Speaker:got someone playing with the yellow ball. I mean, do you take them serious?
Speaker:No, I can't either. I mean, I understand
Speaker:people are colorblind, but then again, why are they,
Speaker:uh, usually above 70?
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: They're usually above 70 years old.
Speaker:>> RB: Well, and the other thing that, the 70 year old
Speaker:mark you have. How about all the 70 year olds wearing the
Speaker:Jordan, uh, ones. Lowe's. I'm like,
Speaker:what? But let's get you in a pair of foot
Speaker:joys.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Yeah, I wear the George.
Speaker:Yeah, I wear the Jordan Lowe's. I'm 42, so I.
Speaker:>> RB: That's all I wear is Jordan golf shoes. So.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Those are great. Dude, check these out.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Oh, yeah, those are sweet.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Look at that baby.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Is that the new ones?
Speaker:>> Jonathan: That's the prototype.
Speaker:>> RB: No, they're not even out.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: They're not even out.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Oh, man. Um, I need to get a pair of those.
Speaker:>> RB: Guy that we've gotten close with, Gentry, he's the.
Speaker:The VP of Jordan Golf, and he's
Speaker:Jordan's right hand man. And that's the shoe that they make for Grove
Speaker:23. And he
Speaker:brought, uh, me an all white pair, which are amazing.
Speaker:But then he pulled those out for Bash, and I wanted to. I wish I was
Speaker:a size eight, because those things.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Three and a half, dude. By the way, they are sick.
Speaker:In fact, that's why I haven't taken them off my desk. They're kind of
Speaker:like a placeholder. They've been literally sitting on my
Speaker:desk.
Speaker:>> RB: Ben, there's a bunch of checks under there that you just keep
Speaker:it as like your.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: It's like a paperweight. He's like, are you ever gonna wear those shoes? I'm
Speaker:like, probably not, but maybe.
Speaker:I don't know. I don't know. I just bought a pair of
Speaker:Sambas off Mabo. And they. He's got these cool
Speaker:shoes. These, these Adidas Sambas
Speaker:in with golf spikes on them. Now, uh,
Speaker:they're badass. The only problem is they're like forest green
Speaker:color, which is kind of dope for fall. But,
Speaker:um, I just copped a pair of those today.
Speaker:And, uh, nice play. I'm gonna wear those.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Yeah. My wife. My wife gives me a hard
Speaker:time for how many pairs of golf shoes I have. It's a real
Speaker:problem.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Uh, do you, do you
Speaker:keep them in any specific order? Are they just thrown
Speaker:anywhere in your garage? Like, how do you keep your shoes?
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Oh, dude, they're everywhere. Um, and I have
Speaker:them. You know, if it's gonna be a muddy day, I'M wearing a pair that's, you know,
Speaker:maybe a little bit. A little on their way out, you
Speaker:know, and then, you know, the clean days, the nice, dry days,
Speaker:I'm bringing out the fresh white Jordan Lowe's, you know?
Speaker:>> RB: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: If I'm walking the course, like, stage, I'm wearing something
Speaker:super comfortable, you know, uh, the.
Speaker:>> RB: The Jordan Revs, the one with the strap over
Speaker:the top. Have you seen them?
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Oh, yeah.
Speaker:>> RB: Most comfortable golf shoe I've ever worn.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Really?
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: All right, I'll have to give me a pair.
Speaker:>> RB: 1,000%.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: I have to get a pair.
Speaker:>> RB: They're incredible. They grip right
Speaker:now, so.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: They grip, dude. Like, the. The
Speaker:spikes in them are, like, real wide.
Speaker:I mean, you know, if you try to spin out on a shot, you're not
Speaker:spinning out, but your ankle is going to just go.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Yeah, well, you know, I can't believe how
Speaker:much grip some of the, like, regular shoes have.
Speaker:Like. Like the, uh, the
Speaker:Jordan Lowe's you're talking about. I just got a pair,
Speaker:um, the other day, and they're. I mean, you could wear them
Speaker:as, like, shoes, like, just regular. Nobody
Speaker:would know.
Speaker:>> RB: Dude, I see so many people. I travel a lot, like,
Speaker:for work. Walking through the airport, I see so many people.
Speaker:I'm like, that's a Jordan golf shoe. Like,
Speaker:and they wear them everywhere. It's hilarious. But it's
Speaker:nice because you can, literally, if you're in a pinch or something,
Speaker:you got to make a flight. You can just rock them and nobody's gonna say anything.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: No, yeah.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: They're so awesome.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Well, uh, it's kind of like basketball shoes. People wear basketball shoes for,
Speaker:like, regular shoes. You know, it's just like, you say
Speaker:golf's popular now, so they're having to make them for. For
Speaker:style now.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Yeah, it's a great. You know,
Speaker:I. I love it, man. I, uh, love it. We gotta try to figure out
Speaker:some time to play some G, though, especially.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Because we got all kinds.
Speaker:>> RB: Maybe we just meet. Nashville.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Yeah. Or cut. Dude, y' all need to come to Lake Oconee. We got.
Speaker:So Reynolds, we got seven courses.
Speaker:Um, Cusco, Will is here. And then I just joined this new
Speaker:club called the Hideaway that'll be open next year. That's going to be, like,
Speaker:the best, most exclusive
Speaker:club at the lake. I mean, it's going to be.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: I've heard of that.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: It's going to be like, like, top.
Speaker:>> RB: Are you anywhere in Nashville?
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: No, I. I, uh. I mean, I spent
Speaker:so much time here when I'm in Nashville, dude, I'm Usually on the grind. It's
Speaker:usually like a morning session and that, you know, I'm doing a
Speaker:dinner at night, um, or going to a show or something.
Speaker:So I. I mean, I play troubadour sometimes if
Speaker:I go out. But, um, I played with
Speaker:Stell over at, ah, Legends.
Speaker:>> RB: Oh, still Daddy.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Um, uh, earlier this year we played over at Legends, but, like,
Speaker:you know, that's. I would say that's like few and far between, you know, I'm usually there
Speaker:to work. I'll save my golfer here.
Speaker:>> RB: He was my partner at Grove 23. I got him in the
Speaker:blind draw.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: And, uh, that was great.
Speaker:>> RB: That's about it. We don't have much to talk about.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: You laughed your ass off. He is
Speaker:so funny.
Speaker:>> RB: So funny and so quick.
Speaker:So too smart, too, because he'll talk to me and I'm like, what
Speaker:are you talking about? I have no clue what you're talking about.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: He. He at one point had regular sized
Speaker:clubs.
Speaker:>> RB: Oh, my God.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: I know. So he came here to get fit, uh, with
Speaker:Ray at the Kingdom and, um, through
Speaker:Sean. Yeah, Sean.
Speaker:>> RB: That's our boy.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: I've taken some lessons from Sean, too.
Speaker:>> RB: He's a good dude.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Great dude.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Does the Hideaway. Are they going to offer lodging?
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Yes. So it's going to be very much like Sage in that
Speaker:you, uh, can come and it's like the whole experience, you know. So I
Speaker:think the guy, if I'm not mistaken, the
Speaker:builder, not the designer, but the builder that
Speaker:did Sage is doing that course
Speaker:and they. And so, like, our locker room setup is going to be pretty
Speaker:similar with, like, the men's grill and all that.
Speaker:I mean, it's going to be. It's going to be top notch, dude.
Speaker:>> RB: Between that we got between that new place,
Speaker:Sage, and then the 21 club that they're building down
Speaker:near Sage, and then, um,
Speaker:Tree Farm. I mean, there's so many of these, like, boutique. I'm
Speaker:calling them boutique country clubs because that's what they are even
Speaker:in Nashville. The Bounty Club.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Yeah.
Speaker:>> RB: Um, a buddy of mine's in on that Fuj.
Speaker:And, uh, he had emailed me to docket to see
Speaker:if I wanted to join. And I saw the price and I said, I'm gonna take a hard pass on
Speaker:that one. But. But, um,
Speaker:I mean, he's like, well, you can get your money back. Yeah, that's not the point. It's
Speaker:about the front side of it.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: He's like.
Speaker:>> RB: So many, like, boutique country clubs
Speaker:that are incredible.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Oh, yeah, man. Have you heard of, uh, Old Barnwell down
Speaker:that way, too.
Speaker:>> RB: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Yeah.
Speaker:>> RB: They have an owl logo.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Oh, man, that course is sick.
Speaker:>> RB: I really want to do Tree Farm.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Yeah, I mean, Tree Farm's amazing. Yeah, they. I
Speaker:mean, they have champions. Uh, retreat down there.
Speaker:I mean, dude, between here and an hour from here
Speaker:is stupid. How much golf there is,
Speaker:that's like, you know, like
Speaker:championship level golf.
Speaker:>> RB: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Um, yeah, and I'm looking,
Speaker:okay, I'm looking for a southern spot to
Speaker:park. To park my hat.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Um, just come, Come and
Speaker:come play. Let me show you around. Let me take you to play some golf.
Speaker:Well, I fall in love with it, man.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Yeah. And I think my lady would really love it too, if there's something
Speaker:to offer in that regard, too. Not that I, uh, don't want a
Speaker:country club, dude. I don't want a country club. I don't want, like, some. I
Speaker:mean, would I. Yes, but I'm saying I want some
Speaker:vibes. I want a vibe, like,
Speaker:I don't know. So that sounds good. Maybe. Maybe I'll come mosey on down
Speaker:there and.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Dude, every time Ray Fulture is here, he's. He's
Speaker:like, scheming on how he can move here. He's like,
Speaker:dude, you've cracked the code. This is like the best place on
Speaker:earth.
Speaker:>> RB: Okay, I agree.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: I agree.
Speaker:>> RB: Ray is the best.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: I was like, dude, come down here. We'll make a little music row in Lake
Speaker:Oconee.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Yeah, that, that and all the boys
Speaker:are from Georgia. A lot of them.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Hey, before we, uh, wrap this up with you, Corey, I
Speaker:want to ask you one last question here.
Speaker:Who was your favorite artist to work with,
Speaker:and do you see yourself maybe jumping genres at
Speaker:some point in your producing career?
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Um, maybe. You know, I mean,
Speaker:I'm always open, you know, when I. You know, I never,
Speaker:like, I grew up listening to rock and rap, and so
Speaker:I never imagined that I would land in country.
Speaker:Um, but I'm. But I'm good at it and I enjoy
Speaker:it. It's fun. I kind of bring that side to
Speaker:anything I do. So I would love a chance to like,
Speaker:make a. A killer rock record one day. Yeah, that would
Speaker:be really fun for me. I just. There's a
Speaker:band, there's some of my best friends, and it's band called A Thousand Horses.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Okay.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: You know that band?
Speaker:>> Jonathan: I don't want to say I do, but I feel like I've seen it.
Speaker:I've seen the name.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Well, they had a country. They had a country number one called Smoke.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Yes. That's it.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Yeah, yeah. And they, and they've had a few others that were like top
Speaker:tens, but they just, I just wrote, they came down here
Speaker:to do it and, uh, we wrote it all. But dude,
Speaker:they're, they're making like a straight 90s rock.
Speaker:Like.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Oh my God.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Really? Like, it's just gonna be so nostalgic for you if you
Speaker:like 90s rock.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Yes.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Um, and their first song drops Friday.
Speaker:>> RB: That's sick.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Um, from it. And, and so that was like one of
Speaker:the most fun I've ever had writing
Speaker:for a record. Um, I obviously
Speaker:loved working with FGL because that
Speaker:kind of brought that element in there a little bit too. And,
Speaker:uh, those dudes are so fun. And I've known,
Speaker:I've known Tyler for a long time. So. Tyler was
Speaker:in, I used to lead youth group when I was in high
Speaker:school and Tyler was in my youth group. He was in like eighth grade.
Speaker:>> RB: Wow.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: We go that far back.
Speaker:>> RB: So you're still tight with him and all that?
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Oh, yeah, him and BKA both. Um, I'm still
Speaker:super tight with them. And uh, yeah. So that was
Speaker:like. We went to the Bahamas to make that last
Speaker:record and to Albany Club. You ever
Speaker:heard of that one? That, that.
Speaker:>> RB: Oh, man. Who's there?
Speaker:>> Jonathan: There?
Speaker:>> RB: I think, um. Oh, uh, he won the British Open.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Tiger's a member.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Darren Clark.
Speaker:>> RB: Darren Clark.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Timberlake. I mean there, it's a, into
Speaker:the studio there. Timberlake and uh, Alicia Keys
Speaker:did. And dude, it was,
Speaker:that's the most, I don't, I don't think it'll be impossible to top
Speaker:that record making experience. I mean, we,
Speaker:we were down there in the Bahamas playing golf,
Speaker:getting out on yachts, you know, making a
Speaker:record in like one of the most ridiculous studios I've
Speaker:ever been in. Um, so that would, that's kind
Speaker:of like my favorite. You know, if I, if I look at my,
Speaker:my top tier, the thing to beat. That's the one.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: That's so cool. I didn't
Speaker:know you, I mean, I knew you were close, obviously, but the fact that he was in
Speaker:your youth group, that's actually so spectacular.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Yeah, man, it was cool. I, I, I had a, I had a record deal
Speaker:and Tyler moved to town, uh, to Belmont.
Speaker:And I was at this thing, they used to call it Grammy Block Party.
Speaker:It was like they blocked off Demumbrian, uh, Circle
Speaker:and, and they'd have like, I think the year that this happened, I
Speaker:think the Civil wars, if you remember them, they were playing.
Speaker:>> RB: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: And, um, so they're playing and like, I'll Never forget Tyler
Speaker:coming over and he's like, hey, this is my buddy bk. We're like,
Speaker:starting a band and crazy. And, you know, and
Speaker:I'm the one that had the record deal. And then, like, you know,
Speaker:in two or three years time, we like Flip flop. I had lost a
Speaker:record deal, and they're the biggest thing ever, you know?
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Yeah.
Speaker:>> RB: But everything happens as we know. Everything happens in this
Speaker:world for. For a reason. Right? So.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: That's right.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: 90S nostalgic rock. Real quick, check out this band called
Speaker:Royal Otis. They're out of Australia.
Speaker:>> RB: Cool.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: And let's write that down.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Yeah, seriously, dude. They're. They're two. Two brothers.
Speaker:But it's. It's awesome.
Speaker:They're good shit. Anyways. Okay.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: All right, I got something to listen to now.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Yeah. Royal Otis. Um, Tap in
Speaker:segment coming up here. Corey. Presented by
Speaker:Betnardi Golf. Check them out online@betnardi.com
Speaker:Pep's going to ask you some questions. Um, and,
Speaker:you know, that's how we end the show.
Speaker:>> RB: All right? One artist that
Speaker:you want to sit down and write with or have a
Speaker:cut with can
Speaker:be passed. Post
Speaker:Malone. He's the guy
Speaker:right now. Dream, um, foursome,
Speaker:Dead or alive.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Ooh, Dream M.
Speaker:Foursome in golf, I'm assuming.
Speaker:>> RB: Yes.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Wow.
Speaker:>> RB: Yeah, wow.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Tiger woods for sure. John Daly.
Speaker:Um, and I'm a big. I'm a big
Speaker:Justin Thomas guy.
Speaker:>> RB: I love it.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Um, and then, uh, if. If I
Speaker:could. If I could have an honorable mention. Tony
Speaker:Finau is the drippiest golfer on
Speaker:tour. Love his style, love his.
Speaker:Love his personality. Love that he's a family guy. I'd
Speaker:love to spend some time with Finaule.
Speaker:>> RB: All right. We just got to experience a concert
Speaker:backstage, and it was incredible. So what was. Has been
Speaker:your best backstage concert
Speaker:experience?
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Best, um, backstage. Fgl,
Speaker:Nelly. We were on the back of the bus,
Speaker:and Nelly was, like, holding court,
Speaker:telling stories, um, that I won't repeat.
Speaker:But they were awesome. And, uh,
Speaker:and there was. There was lots of, uh,
Speaker:extracurricular things happening on the back of the bus, as you can
Speaker:imagine, with Nelly. Uh, but. But, man, that
Speaker:was pretty epic. I mean, growing up listening to, you know,
Speaker:Nelly, uh, that was in high school. That was.
Speaker:That was pretty cool.
Speaker:>> RB: All right, last one. What are you chasing, man?
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: I'm still chasing hits, and I'm chasing, um, I'm
Speaker:chasing scratch golf.
Speaker:That's my two goals. More hits and. And to
Speaker:finally touch that zero mark.
Speaker:>> RB: Uh, well, good luck to you in all of that, and
Speaker:thank you so much for your Time.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Thanks, dudes. Appreciate it.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Yeah, man. Really appreciate it. Corey.
Speaker:>> RB: Corey Crowder, thank you so much, my man, for coming on,
Speaker:taking time out of your busy schedule. It was nice having a
Speaker:little FaceTime chat with you and catching up on what's
Speaker:been happening in the last year. Thousand Horses just
Speaker:came out with their rock and roll songs.
Speaker:I actually listened to them pretty good.
Speaker:So, Yeah, I enjoyed it.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: 90S rock, man. Where it's at now. That was
Speaker:cool. You know, just hearing that whole side of things.
Speaker:Obviously likes producing more and being behind the scenes a
Speaker:little bit, and, uh, you know, he knows what the hell he's doing.
Speaker:I did not share with him my experience of recording an
Speaker:album. Uh, he would have laughed his ass
Speaker:off. But it's. It's. That's.
Speaker:It's a business that so many people aren't,
Speaker:I guess, kind of privy to, you know, and it's cool that we get to hear
Speaker:that stuff, man. So, Corey,
Speaker:thanks for coming on the show, man. We hope you
Speaker:keep chasing birdies and keep
Speaker:honing in that game, because we are coming to Georgia.
Speaker:>> RB: We're coming to Georgia and coming to Georgia chasing
Speaker:birdies, too, man. Next year. Corey said no
Speaker:excuses. All right.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Um, but you,
Speaker:uh. You mess around with fantasy
Speaker:football at all.
Speaker:>> RB: No, like. But no, like, that's. What do you
Speaker:mean? That's not real? That life is not real? Well, yeah,
Speaker:I mean, but it's fun.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Dude, when you play for 10 bucks. You know what I mean?
Speaker:>> RB: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: I just figured you being a degenerate, you would.
Speaker:>> RB: No, but. But I will tell you this much. I'm 2.
Speaker:0 to start the college football season. I'm taking the
Speaker:parlay out that we lost, but
Speaker:I'm 2.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: 0.
Speaker:>> RB: Uh, for the games.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Yeah. Yeah. Iowa State and Kansas got it done last
Speaker:weekend, dude. Tonight, though, college kicks off
Speaker:again.
Speaker:>> Cory Crowder: Yeah, again.
Speaker:>> RB: And I'm gonna tell you what, boys. Hammer Texas
Speaker:this weekend. They are going to
Speaker:run up and down, throw it all
Speaker:around. It's gonna be beautiful.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: I, uh, don't. You know. Yeah. Ohio State lost so many players.
Speaker:It's gonna be. I think it's gonna be tough in them
Speaker:pick off where they left off, but, you know, naturally they're good at
Speaker:recruiting players, so. I don't know.
Speaker:I don't think it's gonna be like that,
Speaker:but I would give the slight edge to Texas for sure.
Speaker:Um, Archie, he's starting out, right?
Speaker:>> RB: Yeah, he's starting. I mean, he's only been there for three years or something.
Speaker:I don't know. Um, he was
Speaker:the he's number one ranked quarterback. Hasn't played a game yet, but he's number one.
Speaker:It's funny how that works. There, um, is a king kid. I'm
Speaker:actually going to go to a game here. Um,
Speaker:McKeesport, this running back from a key sport, is the number one
Speaker:running back in the country.
Speaker:Committed to Penn State. Had five touchdowns last
Speaker:Saturday.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: No way.
Speaker:>> RB: Yeah, I kind of want to go watch them now,
Speaker:so. Um. But, hey,
Speaker:we're going to be moseying around Columbus here in a few weeks,
Speaker:and I'm excited to have a milkshake with you. We don't need
Speaker:to talk about where we're going going. Just. I'm excited to have a milkshake with
Speaker:you.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Yeah, I. I will definitely have a milkshake
Speaker:there. There's no doubt about it. Oh, my God,
Speaker:dude, I. I know you.
Speaker:I could not stop laughing at that
Speaker:Hole in One video of
Speaker:Wiz. I could not. Dude,
Speaker:I watched that thing now, naturally, I. I asked him for
Speaker:permission to send it to me so I could chop it up a bit, little, little bit,
Speaker:and we could share it on our socials. But, dude, that
Speaker:video made me so happy. It was
Speaker:so funny. Like,
Speaker:I mean, he couldn't get his shirt off there for a minute, and
Speaker:then I don't know if he was actually gonna take it off. Um,
Speaker:and then he. The best part about it is he
Speaker:says out loud, he says,
Speaker:I never thought that I was gonna have one,
Speaker:meaning a hole in one, which, you
Speaker:know, most golfers, you never know, but everyone
Speaker:always hopes they have one. Everyone always hopes to
Speaker:have one.
Speaker:>> RB: Well, Big G doesn't have one, so.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Which is absolutely insane.
Speaker:That is insane. Your
Speaker:dad plays how many rounds of golf a year?
Speaker:>> RB: About 2. 20 a year.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: 220 rounds of golf a year for the
Speaker:last God knows how many years, and he
Speaker:has not had one hole in one.
Speaker:>> RB: M. Not one hole in one.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Oh, uh, my God.
Speaker:>> RB: But congratulations to James Wisniewski,
Speaker:um, on that, uh, life is
Speaker:a highway, baby.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: So I got, uh, I got to play
Speaker:Nemecollen, uh, on Monday with, uh,
Speaker:Sam Benardi BCATs. Sam was pegging it up
Speaker:Tuesday in the, uh, USGA Mid amp qualifier. And,
Speaker:um, Mystic Rock. I know at this point
Speaker:now they've already aerated it, started it, so it's closed
Speaker:for a little bit. But September, October, it's gonna
Speaker:be rocking because it was great the last week and a half.
Speaker:So if you guys in the area are looking for
Speaker:some golf, maybe spend the day, come up to Nemacolan in
Speaker:Farmington, Pennsylvania. Uh, Mystic Rock, Shepherd's
Speaker:Rock. The lodging is off the charts.
Speaker:And that is nemecollen.com. book your stay,
Speaker:man. Come on up and play some golf.
Speaker:>> RB: Especially in the fall.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: You gotta do it. I'll tell you what,
Speaker:you're gonna laugh at me, but, um, you know, I got my last
Speaker:major of the year in September when I head out to
Speaker:Pronghorn. And the last video
Speaker:I saw of Steve Pering was not of him hitting golf
Speaker:balls. It was of him drinking out of
Speaker:the Stanley cup in Florida.
Speaker:>> RB: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: So this shows where my partner's head's at right now, leading into the.
Speaker:What could be the. Who knows? Who knows?
Speaker:>> RB: That'll be the last one. I mean, let's just end this already.
Speaker:>> Jonathan: Well, let's see how it goes, you know, I mean. But he's, uh,
Speaker:been sending me range pictures of him with the range set up.
Speaker:And we'll see, you know, we'll see what happens,
Speaker:but should be a good time.
Speaker:>> RB: Well, buddy, without further ado, everyone
Speaker:have a killer week. We'll catch you in two.
Speaker:Hope you enjoyed the the episode and
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Speaker:>> Jonathan: Yeah, the mugs are great, and I just can't believe. So we might just
Speaker:have to give the hats away. But the mugs are. If
Speaker:you don't have one of our Chasing Birdies mugs, at the very least, do
Speaker:yourself a favor. They're high quality, they're
Speaker:premium, and they keep everything what you needed to be
Speaker:kept that hot cold.
Speaker:So. Yeah, but like he said, guys,
Speaker:we appreciate you tuning into this week's episode
Speaker:of Chase and Birdies. Thank you to Ally Emily
Speaker:Evo over at Simpler Media for putting this thing together.
Speaker:Jacqueline D. Paterio, Rachel London for all yalls social
Speaker:media help. You guys have a great, blessed weekend
Speaker:and we'll catch y' all in two.