Matthew Hughes - King of Video: Hello, welcome to YouTube Success Podcast.
Speaker:Remember I don't have an intro.
Speaker:I did say in the last episode I would not talk about the fact that
Speaker:I didn't have an intro, but here I am talking about it once again.
Speaker:So don't get bored of these non-intro intros, just go with it, it's fine.
Speaker:I'm here with Molly, who I forever call Molly Maloney and
Speaker:that is not your name at all.
Speaker:I don't know what.
Molly Mahoney:I get it a lot.
Molly Mahoney:I get like cockles and muscles, all of it.
Molly Mahoney:So Molly Malone, people say.
Molly Mahoney:Matthew Hughes - King of Video: As long as I'm not the only one.
Molly Mahoney:And the thing is, I thought to myself, well, you know, I could
Molly Mahoney:just not tell her about it.
Molly Mahoney:But, you know, I'm an open book.
Molly Mahoney:I like to tell people when I just make a fool of myself.
Molly Mahoney:So I'm here with Molly.
Molly Mahoney:And Molly is a YouTuber.
Molly Mahoney:Molly, I checked out your YouTube channel earlier.
Molly Mahoney:You've got five and a half thousand subscribers.
Molly Mahoney:But you know, it's there.
Molly Mahoney:It's one of the platforms you use of many things.
Molly Mahoney:Yeah, I think from my perspective, and perspective is a wonderful thing from
Molly Mahoney:the outside looking in, I think of you when I think of AI, but strangely enough,
Molly Mahoney:that is absolutely not your whole thing.
Molly Mahoney:That's not your whole story at all.
Molly Mahoney:There's a whole thing to Molly that doesn't give a fair picture of.
Molly Mahoney:So what I do on this is I ask my guests to introduce themselves.
Molly Mahoney:I know that sometimes feels weird, but I think if anyone doesn't know Molly.
Molly Mahoney:One of the first times I saw Molly speak, she started singing.
Molly Mahoney:So, I mean, if anybody can introduce themselves, it has to be Molly.
Molly Mahoney:So I'm going to leave that to you, Molly.
Molly Mahoney:Go for it.
Molly Mahoney:Yeah, I'm here.
Molly Mahoney:I'm here for it.
Molly Mahoney:So I'm so grateful.
Molly Mahoney:Thank you so much.
Molly Mahoney:I was so looking forward to this call and I'm so glad that we got to hang out
Molly Mahoney:somewhat recently, almost a year ago, but like in real life, which is awesome also.
Molly Mahoney:And yeah, so you are correct.
Molly Mahoney:Currently, we are, one of the things we're most known for is AI.
Molly Mahoney:We've been teaching a human-focused AI strategies since 2021, which feels like
Molly Mahoney:we're kind of like dinosaurs in the space at this point because so many people have
Molly Mahoney:become AI experts in the past like six months or, you know, two days, but really
Molly Mahoney:AI has been around for a very long time.
Molly Mahoney:So that's been something we've woven in.
Molly Mahoney:But it all started with a little company called the Prepared
Molly Mahoney:Performer, as you can see.
Molly Mahoney:And when I launched my company, the main focus was actually helping performers,
Molly Mahoney:i.
Molly Mahoney:e.
Molly Mahoney:singers, dancers, actors, to be able to have a career and actually, you know,
Molly Mahoney:a life they love because I worked as a professional performer for about 20 years.
Molly Mahoney:In 2016, when Facebook live came out, we switched everything and rather
Molly Mahoney:than teaching performers how to have a business, we started teaching
Molly Mahoney:business owners how to perform.
Molly Mahoney:So that is what we really started doing was helping people to be more
Molly Mahoney:confident, whether they're on camera or on stage, or even in the way that
Molly Mahoney:they write things, it's bringing their own authentic self into their content.
Molly Mahoney:And now AI allows us to just do that more quickly.
Molly Mahoney:Matthew Hughes - King of Video: Excellent.
Molly Mahoney:And actually, hopefully for anyone listening or watching on YouTube, you
Molly Mahoney:can now see why Molly is the perfect guest for this because actually,
Molly Mahoney:one of the things that I deal with, with my clients when it comes to
Molly Mahoney:YouTube is the confidence on camera.
Molly Mahoney:Speaking to a lens is weird as hell.
Molly Mahoney:I think my public speaking journey started in 2010.
Molly Mahoney:And when I first got in front of camera, which was 20, 2017,
Molly Mahoney:I still felt weird about it.
Molly Mahoney:And I'd spoken in front of rooms with hundreds of people,
Molly Mahoney:but it still felt weird.
Molly Mahoney:So, we'll come to that.
Molly Mahoney:Well, let's start, let's start there.
Molly Mahoney:Actually, let's talk about the public speaking stuff.
Molly Mahoney:I've got it the other way around in my notes.
Molly Mahoney:Can we start with, what are the common things do you think between being
Molly Mahoney:on camera on YouTube or whatever platform you decide to be on?
Molly Mahoney:What are the common things that come up for a lot of people
Molly Mahoney:when they're trying to perform?
Molly Mahoney:Cause it is a performance, whether you like it or not, it's a performance.
Molly Mahoney:So what are the common things you see?
Molly Mahoney:Well, I think there's two different for me.
Molly Mahoney:There's two different like styles.
Molly Mahoney:One is to be live where you know that you have interaction potentially coming
Molly Mahoney:in from a community, which that way at least you can feed off of the comments
Molly Mahoney:and then there's where you're just by yourself recording a video, right?
Molly Mahoney:This is another way where we're able to talk to each other.
Molly Mahoney:But for me, it's a little harder when I'm by myself with no one else there
Molly Mahoney:and I'm recording something on my own because there's no feedback and there's
Molly Mahoney:nothing to bounce your ideas off of.
Molly Mahoney:So whether you're live and you have people interacting or not,
Molly Mahoney:you really have to pretend.
Molly Mahoney:And the hardest thing to do is actually to be yourself on camera,
Molly Mahoney:which that in itself is a performance because I remember being in college,
Molly Mahoney:getting my BFA in theater and dance.
Molly Mahoney:And we learned that when cameras were first invented, there was
Molly Mahoney:a whole new thing that happens physiologically with people.
Molly Mahoney:When they know that a camera is on everything in your actual being changes.
Molly Mahoney:And so if you don't feel weird on camera, that's probably more weird.
Molly Mahoney:Matthew Hughes - King of Video: Oh, my God, that's so fascinating.
Molly Mahoney:And that leads really well into my next question.
Molly Mahoney:But I want to I want to think about that and just talk about that for a second.
Molly Mahoney:So I talk about the fact that when you hit the button of fear, the
Molly Mahoney:record button, that all your..
Molly Mahoney:What your brain does is gives you all this information immediately.
Molly Mahoney:It's like it just floods you with information.
Molly Mahoney:So a lot of people don't stumble for the first minute because they've
Molly Mahoney:suddenly got all this information because they've hit the button.
Molly Mahoney:Actually, sometimes it's better to hit record and just talk about something
Molly Mahoney:that's fun and something that's unrelated to the video that you talk about, and
Molly Mahoney:then get into your video, because it's just about getting those nerves and all
Molly Mahoney:of the crap that your brain is giving you.
Molly Mahoney:And the reason why it leads nicely to the question.
Molly Mahoney:And hey, I'm going to tell you, by the way, normally with everyone
Molly Mahoney:else I've spoken to you so far, I tell them what the questions are.
Molly Mahoney:And I just realized I've not told them all the questions.
Molly Mahoney:So the other thing I would tell you,
Molly Mahoney:I'm like better without knowing.
Molly Mahoney:Cause I really like..
Molly Mahoney:Matthew Hughes - King of Video: This is the thing, right.
Molly Mahoney:And the thing about being a performer is, what makes a good performer, a
Molly Mahoney:good public speaker is being able to continue when stuff goes wrong.
Molly Mahoney:And I've been in loads of situations like that where my slide deck doesn't
Molly Mahoney:work or the project doesn't work.
Molly Mahoney:The tech just fails.
Molly Mahoney:I, we used to own the tech world.
Molly Mahoney:It was like, you'd have to sacrifice a lamb to the demo gods because the
Molly Mahoney:demos would always fail, you know?
Molly Mahoney:So being a performer, you just learn to roll with it, right?
Molly Mahoney:You just get on with it.
Molly Mahoney:But the physio..
Molly Mahoney:physiological stuff, I knew it was going to be, it was going to be hard to say
Molly Mahoney:that, the physiological stuff, that's fascinating because again, I asked
Molly Mahoney:people, talk to people about energy.
Molly Mahoney:So I wondered if you could talk about the kind of things that you talk to your
Molly Mahoney:clients about when it comes to staying in the right energy for performance,
Molly Mahoney:because there's some days where you're just, you just don't have it.
Molly Mahoney:It's not in you, for me at 7 PM and I'm always better in the morning.
Molly Mahoney:So when I'm doing these, I try to do them in the morning, but of course
Molly Mahoney:you're the other side of the world.
Molly Mahoney:So we do accommodate you.
Molly Mahoney:So how do you, how do your clients and how do you advise your clients
Molly Mahoney:to stay in the best energy when it comes to creating video content?
Molly Mahoney:Yeah.
Molly Mahoney:Well, the first thing that we always do is we go way back to when I was in college
Molly Mahoney:again, and in the room where we were learning how to become actors, you know,
Molly Mahoney:there was this giant chart on the wall.
Molly Mahoney:That was Constantin Stanislavski's chart on how to be a real actor and it's this
Molly Mahoney:whole, if you Google it like Stanislavski is the like foremost, you know, Russian
Molly Mahoney:theorist on how to be an actor and there's all these different pieces in it that are
Molly Mahoney:like these words going up the side and there's one giant box on the bottom and
Molly Mahoney:it says work on one's self and I think that is so important and it's so great
Molly Mahoney:that you asked this question because if we don't have a system for that in
Molly Mahoney:place before we start doing all the other things because there's so much more to it.
Molly Mahoney:It's not just that you start talking.
Molly Mahoney:It's that you have all the tech stuff to consider.
Molly Mahoney:You also have things that are happening, you know, in your real
Molly Mahoney:life that are coming in at you.
Molly Mahoney:You also have the looming fear of like what the results of this video are going
Molly Mahoney:to be, because there's like some sort of implication, like what is your family
Molly Mahoney:going to say when they see this video?
Molly Mahoney:What are your clients actually going to care?
Molly Mahoney:Are they going to think it's dumb?
Molly Mahoney:Whatever.
Molly Mahoney:We've got all of these different gremlins that creep up.
Molly Mahoney:So if we don't have a foundation for ourself as a regular practice, it's what
Molly Mahoney:we can never expect to be able to give something consistently energetically.
Molly Mahoney:So we have a practice called
Molly Mahoney:The Quesadilla of Awesome.
Molly Mahoney:Yeah.
Molly Mahoney:, do you know?
Molly Mahoney:Matthew Hughes - King of Video: No, I dunno this.
Molly Mahoney:Go on.
Molly Mahoney:Tell me.
Molly Mahoney:Okay, so , the Quesadilla of Awesome is something that I developed
Molly Mahoney:when I was working as a performance coach because I had so many clients
Molly Mahoney:that had like broadway credits or huge TV credits, and then they would still
Molly Mahoney:get nervous in certain situations.
Molly Mahoney:And in my mind I was like, dude, you were like, you know, such a pro.
Molly Mahoney:How are you nervous here?
Molly Mahoney:But I realised that for some people, the higher that they get,
Molly Mahoney:the more successful they get.
Molly Mahoney:Now there's farther to fall.
Molly Mahoney:So sometimes it can feel even scarier once you've had a certain level of success.
Molly Mahoney:We're going to do this exercise together.
Molly Mahoney:Is that okay?
Molly Mahoney:Matthew Hughes - King of Video: Yeah, I think I'm just, yeah, whatever.
Molly Mahoney:Let's do it, Molly.
Molly Mahoney:So you're going to take your hands like this.
Molly Mahoney:Yeah.
Molly Mahoney:Put them in a ball.
Molly Mahoney:If you're listening on the podcast, we are putting our fingertips
Molly Mahoney:together and making like a big ball.
Molly Mahoney:This is going to be our ball of business benefits.
Molly Mahoney:So inside this ball, we are going to put all of the things that we
Molly Mahoney:offer So like all of your amazing technical camera skills and your
Molly Mahoney:YouTube magic and all of that stuff.
Molly Mahoney:You're going to put into this ball and then on the count of three, we're
Molly Mahoney:going to throw it into the air ready You got all your benefits in there?
Molly Mahoney:Matthew Hughes - King of Video: Yep.
Molly Mahoney:One, two, three.
Molly Mahoney:Okay.
Molly Mahoney:So now, all of our business benefits are floating above us, up above
Molly Mahoney:us, like Mikey TV and Willy Wonka, you know, when he like goes through
Molly Mahoney:the television, the WonkaVision.
Molly Mahoney:So all of our benefits are up there.
Molly Mahoney:And what are you left with?
Molly Mahoney:Matthew Hughes - King of Video: Just yourself.
Molly Mahoney:Yeah, which is both the most amazing and the most
Molly Mahoney:terrifying thing to be left with.
Molly Mahoney:Oftentimes before we start our videos, we try and bring in like our expertise
Molly Mahoney:and we have to look fancy, whatever.
Molly Mahoney:But if we start with who we are as humans first.
Molly Mahoney:We're going to be so much more powerful and we'll be able to create content
Molly Mahoney:that other human beings will care about.
Molly Mahoney:So the problem is, is that a lot of people don't even know who they are.
Molly Mahoney:So what we do is we make a list of 20 things that make you a
Molly Mahoney:uniquely awesome human being.
Molly Mahoney:And we call this list the Quesadilla of Awesome because everyone has
Molly Mahoney:something that makes them uniquely awesome, even if it's just that
Molly Mahoney:you make an amazing quesadilla.
Molly Mahoney:So, do you want to know the recipe for what goes in
Molly Mahoney:Matthew Hughes - King of Video: To an amazing quesadilla?
Molly Mahoney:Well, I mean, that is subjective because you may want like
Molly Mahoney:olives in your quesadilla or nuts.
Molly Mahoney:I don't know.
Molly Mahoney:Matthew Hughes - King of Video: Yeah, yeah.
Molly Mahoney:I mean, no, I totally get it.
Molly Mahoney:And I think you, go on, tell me, tell me the recipe, go on.
Molly Mahoney:So the recipe for what you're going to write on this list,
Molly Mahoney:a lot of people get stuck with it.
Molly Mahoney:And so I've made an acronym.
Molly Mahoney:The word is SAVE.
Molly Mahoney:It has five letters.
Molly Mahoney:Most people think you spell SAVE with four letters, but I can't
Molly Mahoney:spell, so I spell my acronyms wrong.
Molly Mahoney:So it's S A A V E.
Molly Mahoney:And it is your skill sets, the things that you're naturally gifted at.
Molly Mahoney:Your appearance, which is important, not because of what other people
Molly Mahoney:think about the way you look.
Molly Mahoney:It's about what you think about the way you look.
Molly Mahoney:Because that's half of the problem, is that when we record videos, oftentimes we
Molly Mahoney:can see ourselves, which is like, awkward.
Molly Mahoney:So, your appearance.
Molly Mahoney:The next one is your activities.
Molly Mahoney:So things that you love doing that are separate from your business,
Molly Mahoney:which then you can connect with other human beings about as well.
Molly Mahoney:The next one is your values.
Molly Mahoney:And so those are the things that really matter to you as a human being.
Molly Mahoney:And our company, we stand for joy as a fierce form of activism.
Molly Mahoney:If you're not willing to have fun, you're not going to be
Molly Mahoney:a good fit in our community.
Molly Mahoney:And then the final thing is E, which is for things you like to eat.
Molly Mahoney:And so this is,
Molly Mahoney:Matthew Hughes - King of Video: I'm glad that's there.
Molly Mahoney:And that one's really, it seems silly, but it's actually such
Molly Mahoney:a great way to bring about a common denominator that we all can, you
Molly Mahoney:know, either agree on or disagree on.
Molly Mahoney:And so what I like to do is find food that's polarizing that you
Molly Mahoney:either love or you really don't like.
Molly Mahoney:And when you weave that into your content, like the secret for unlocking
Molly Mahoney:the algorithm, which is really awesome.
Molly Mahoney:Matthew Hughes - King of Video: Yeah.
Molly Mahoney:And now it all could make sense about the Brussels sprouts.
Molly Mahoney:So that I wasn't sure if I was going to bring
Molly Mahoney:it up, but you, so here we go.
Molly Mahoney:If you want to unlock all of your social media, especially on Facebook,
Molly Mahoney:all you have to do is write these five words, Brussels sprouts, yes
Molly Mahoney:or no, and watch the magic unfold.
Molly Mahoney:So I love Brussels sprouts.
Molly Mahoney:And because of that, let me show you something.
Molly Mahoney:I'm disappearing.
Molly Mahoney:Where did it go?
Molly Mahoney:It's not there.
Molly Mahoney:I have this.
Molly Mahoney:Usually it's like right there.
Molly Mahoney:I have this dish towel that four people have sent me in the mail
Molly Mahoney:that says every day I'm Brusslin.
Molly Mahoney:Matthew Hughes - King of Video: Yeah, yeah, good.
Molly Mahoney:I like that.
Molly Mahoney:And the thing is, you know, the great thing was, so, the story for me, my view
Molly Mahoney:of this story, the first time I saw it, was at Atomicon last year, and of course,
Molly Mahoney:in my world, I've gotten connected with a lot of the Atomicon attendees and
Molly Mahoney:so we all did this thing and of course loads of people beyond the Atomicon
Molly Mahoney:said you must be with Molly and I think actually the great thing about that is
Molly Mahoney:it's like a testament to somebody's, you, you've talked about that SAAVE, the
Molly Mahoney:acronym, but it's a testament to what people remember you as like this, these
Molly Mahoney:little things, mine's "Clean your lens."
Molly Mahoney:I say that all the time.
Molly Mahoney:Once a month, I'll put it on my status and people now repeat it back to me
Molly Mahoney:when they see me, you know, but that is how you create an audience that
Molly Mahoney:understands who you are and what you stand for and all of those kinds of things.
Molly Mahoney:So all of those..
Molly Mahoney:And it can be as silly as Brussels sprouts, but
Molly Mahoney:it's true, I've been teaching that tip for like seven years now.
Molly Mahoney:And so now what happens like at Atomicon, I taught.
Molly Mahoney:that everybody wrote Brussels sprouts.
Molly Mahoney:Yes or no.
Molly Mahoney:And then other people, like you said, start commenting.
Molly Mahoney:You must be with Molly.
Molly Mahoney:Like it works.
Molly Mahoney:It's sticky.
Molly Mahoney:People send me pictures of their Brussels sprouts and the holidays come up.
Molly Mahoney:They send me like fake Brussels sprout Easter eggs or whatever so..
Molly Mahoney:Matthew Hughes - King of Video: And the funny thing is like when you're at school,
Molly Mahoney:when, or certainly when I was at school, there were certain things like that about
Molly Mahoney:your self that would be taken the mickey out of or people would not like or use
Molly Mahoney:against you or whatever and actually I find that they're the things, they're
Molly Mahoney:the uniqueness of a person that becomes the thing that people love in the end at
Molly Mahoney:school you're just trying to figure out and you're all kind of work each other
Molly Mahoney:out but by the time you become an adult if you can just stick your stake in the
Molly Mahoney:ground and say that's who I am, this is what I like, this is what I don't like.
Molly Mahoney:People love that right?
Molly Mahoney:They love it.
Molly Mahoney:And then if you can get better and be even more brave to be able to really claim
Molly Mahoney:that, what I love to do is I love to look at this list and then take your fingers
Molly Mahoney:and you tap your fingers on your chest.
Molly Mahoney:Okay.
Molly Mahoney:So I think you did this at Atomicon.
Molly Mahoney:Will you do it with me?
Molly Mahoney:Okay.
Molly Mahoney:Okay.
Molly Mahoney:You're looking at the list and then you're going to roll your shoulders.
Molly Mahoney:This is like, this is how you get the energy, right?
Molly Mahoney:You're looking at the list, you're rolling your shoulders and then you're going to
Molly Mahoney:take a big breath and you're going to go,
Molly Mahoney:yeah, kind of down.
Molly Mahoney:So I call this the money dance.
Molly Mahoney:And so you do that money dance before you go live or before you write a post.
Molly Mahoney:And every time I do it, it feels so good.
Molly Mahoney:You bring more of who you are into yourself before you show up.
Molly Mahoney:Matthew Hughes - King of Video: Yeah, I definitely didn't know what I was getting
Molly Mahoney:into with this, did I, Molly, at all?
Molly Mahoney:Good.
Molly Mahoney:Excellent.
Molly Mahoney:Well, and the thing is, the thing that I love about this is, because
Molly Mahoney:you do the performing art stuff and the way you bring that into
Molly Mahoney:what you do, you make it feel okay.
Molly Mahoney:Absolutely.
Molly Mahoney:And I think for a lot of adults that have had that sort of beaten out of them in
Molly Mahoney:one way or another, it makes it feel okay.
Molly Mahoney:And so I definitely love that about you.
Molly Mahoney:So thanks for bringing that here as well.
Molly Mahoney:So
Molly Mahoney:what I wanted to ask you now is how the hell did you go
Molly Mahoney:from performing arts to AI?
Molly Mahoney:Oh, that is a good question.
Molly Mahoney:So, we, I mean, there's the transition in between from performing arts to
Molly Mahoney:teaching video strategies, right?
Molly Mahoney:And actually, I don't know if you saw this, but if you look at my poor
Molly Mahoney:little YouTube channel, which doesn't get as much love as I should give it,
Molly Mahoney:if you go, like, if you organize my videos in terms of most popular, did
Molly Mahoney:you happen to do that by any chance?
Molly Mahoney:Matthew Hughes - King of Video: I didn't do that, no.
Molly Mahoney:Okay.
Molly Mahoney:Well, if you do that, you're going to find very embarrassing videos of
Molly Mahoney:me teaching how to sing a C scale.
Molly Mahoney:So I have several videos that have hit well over a hundred thousand
Molly Mahoney:views way back in the day when I was teaching singing because I
Molly Mahoney:actually was using YouTube for that.
Molly Mahoney:But when Facebook Live came out in 2016, I basically abandoned my YouTube channel
Molly Mahoney:and I just focused on Facebook, which worked really well for us in the moment
Molly Mahoney:and the time because Facebook Live was so new when messenger bots came out.
Molly Mahoney:We then added in messenger bots because on, you know, Facebook
Molly Mahoney:Messenger, they were so new and people were like, Oh, what?
Molly Mahoney:You can do what?
Molly Mahoney:And so I love the tech stuff and I love combining the tech
Molly Mahoney:stuff with the human stuff.
Molly Mahoney:And even more than that, I love when people freak out because I've taught
Molly Mahoney:them something they don't know.
Molly Mahoney:And it like really seems like I created the magic when really, I'm
Molly Mahoney:just showing them how to use this tool.
Molly Mahoney:Matthew Hughes - King of Video: Yeah.
Molly Mahoney:Yeah.
Molly Mahoney:And that's great.
Molly Mahoney:Right.
Molly Mahoney:And I think that's the same when I closed my business in 2020, I looked and I
Molly Mahoney:was like, what do I really love doing?
Molly Mahoney:And I figured out through, you know, you do exercise and stuff.
Molly Mahoney:It was like video and teaching.
Molly Mahoney:And it's that same thing.
Molly Mahoney:You mentioned earlier, you said about, what's weird about being in front of
Molly Mahoney:camera is not having the feedback and actually training in a room, when you
Molly Mahoney:deliver training, the best thing about that for me, no, it's not for everybody,
Molly Mahoney:but it's seeing people's eyes light up, seeing them when they get the thing
Molly Mahoney:and then it's like, oh, it's amazing.
Molly Mahoney:And so it's so hard actually to translate that to an online environment.
Molly Mahoney:Actually Zoom gave us a..
Molly Mahoney:You know, Zoom was late to the game.
Molly Mahoney:There was Citrix and all the other things that came in the
Molly Mahoney:corporate world before that.
Molly Mahoney:But, but Zoom really gave the general population a chance to then connect
Molly Mahoney:with their webcams on, because if you'd have asked before the pandemic,
Molly Mahoney:Oh, can you put your webcam on?
Molly Mahoney:People are like, no, you can't see my face.
Molly Mahoney:How dare you ask me to do such a thing?
Molly Mahoney:You know.
Molly Mahoney:But then now everybody's just used to it.
Molly Mahoney:It's almost weird when people show up to a thing like this and they've
Molly Mahoney:not got the webcam on, you know?
Molly Mahoney:Yeah, agreed.
Molly Mahoney:But it gives us that human aspect, even though it's obviously not the
Molly Mahoney:same as being in real life, right?
Molly Mahoney:So with that in mind though, when we add the AI in, it's like, are
Molly Mahoney:we removing the human aspect?
Molly Mahoney:And my firm belief is no, the AI actually causes us to have to dig deeper into
Molly Mahoney:the human aspect because otherwise,
Molly Mahoney:if it was just AI, we would all become zombies and all the content
Molly Mahoney:would become boring and blend in.
Molly Mahoney:So really what happened is in 2021, I started using Jasper,
Molly Mahoney:which was called Jarvis.
Molly Mahoney:Do you remember that?
Molly Mahoney:So yeah, we loved, we loved it so much.
Molly Mahoney:And so I launched a program called dancing with Jarvis.
Molly Mahoney:Teaching people how to play with the AI and how to like when you get a response
Molly Mahoney:that you don't really love to recognize like, Oh, this is just like I'm playing.
Molly Mahoney:I'm going to give him something back and when they changed the name to
Molly Mahoney:Jasper, I was like, this is a bad idea to base my whole program on one tool.
Molly Mahoney:So I switched it.
Molly Mahoney:It's now called the AI content club.
Molly Mahoney:But then when ChatGPT came out and everybody was freaking out, it was
Molly Mahoney:like, Oh, this is a ride that I can wave that I can ride because I've already
Molly Mahoney:been doing this for so many years.
Molly Mahoney:So that's really how it all happened.
Molly Mahoney:And now it's like people have to know who they are.
Molly Mahoney:So our whole thing is that the way to make content that stands out in an effective,
Molly Mahoney:efficient way is your weird plus AI is how we create this high-converting content.
Molly Mahoney:So if you don't figure out what it is that makes you weird to begin with, you're
Molly Mahoney:going to create really boring content.
Molly Mahoney:That's not going to get anywhere.
Molly Mahoney:Matthew Hughes - King of Video: And the weirdness that you, the thing
Molly Mahoney:I love about, I watched one of your tutorials you were doing, you
Molly Mahoney:discovered something and you was like, I'm so excited to show everyone.
Molly Mahoney:And you just went alive and started talking about it.
Molly Mahoney:The thing I like about that is that you, you feel your
Molly Mahoney:excitement for discovering it.
Molly Mahoney:It's like you've discovered it for the first time.
Molly Mahoney:I know in some ways you have, because it's a new thing or whatever.
Molly Mahoney:But I think that's just..
Molly Mahoney:You know what's really crazy?
Molly Mahoney:What's really crazy about that is that honestly, some of these things, even like
Molly Mahoney:prompts that I have created, I get so excited when they work, you know, like
Molly Mahoney:they, and they, I know what's going to happen, but I still, I allow myself to
Molly Mahoney:like, feel the emotion of it and feel that out loud so we can all feel it together.
Molly Mahoney:Matthew Hughes - King of Video: Yeah, yeah.
Molly Mahoney:And I think people are afraid actually to put that, those emotions out
Molly Mahoney:there to show that kind of raw side of them as well, which is great.
Molly Mahoney:I've got to ask you a question.
Molly Mahoney:It's not on my list, but it's the most obvious question I should ask.
Molly Mahoney:Do you say please and thank you?
Molly Mahoney:Oh, always.
Molly Mahoney:Yeah.
Molly Mahoney:Always.
Molly Mahoney:Matthew Hughes - King of Video: It'd be weird if you didn't, right?
Molly Mahoney:Well, and here's like the, there's a couple of reasons,
Molly Mahoney:but I was having ChatGPT create code for a sales calculator that I put
Molly Mahoney:into a widget on a website, which is so cool that you can even do that.
Molly Mahoney:Yeah.
Molly Mahoney:And I said, they created the code.
Molly Mahoney:I went back and forth a little bit, had it all finessed.
Molly Mahoney:And then I said, can you please give this a black background and white text?
Molly Mahoney:And my husband was in my room, in my office.
Molly Mahoney:I have this beanbag in the corner.
Molly Mahoney:He's sitting on the beanbag.
Molly Mahoney:And I was like, oh my gosh, this is so cool talking about it.
Molly Mahoney:And then I sent that and then it replied to me.
Molly Mahoney:And it said, "certainly, adding a black background with white text adds
Molly Mahoney:a layer of sophistication and style.
Molly Mahoney:It's like putting your calculator in a tuxedo."
Molly Mahoney:Oh, brilliant.
Molly Mahoney:And my husband was like, why does it talk to you like that?
Molly Mahoney:And I said, because that's how I talk to them.
Molly Mahoney:You know, we have Yeah, yeah.
Molly Mahoney:The energy is contagious.
Molly Mahoney:Matthew Hughes - King of Video: Yeah.
Molly Mahoney:And isn't it fascinating that there's, it's got these weird, quirky ways to
Molly Mahoney:respond to you because it's all, it learns right from the stuff that it
Molly Mahoney:pulls in, but it, it's just picked up on somebody like it's not picked up
Molly Mahoney:on, or maybe it's been programmed out
Molly Mahoney:that it doesn't pick up to call you something negative, or it doesn't
Molly Mahoney:talk to you in a negative way.
Molly Mahoney:It's all really positive and fluffy kind of things.
Molly Mahoney:I wonder if there is a side of it that's in a negative way, but
Molly Mahoney:I've not seen anything like that.
Molly Mahoney:Well, you know what happened like with Bing or whatever,
Molly Mahoney:when they first released it, that it started going down really dark
Molly Mahoney:paths, they released it too soon.
Molly Mahoney:Yeah.
Molly Mahoney:There's a whole thing that it like was not good and they didn't have
Molly Mahoney:it trained to be that more positive.
Molly Mahoney:Matthew Hughes - King of Video: Okay.
Molly Mahoney:Okay.
Molly Mahoney:Yeah, so they must have just creepy way.
Molly Mahoney:Yeah.
Molly Mahoney:I mean, the word is, word is creepy if you look for it, right?
Molly Mahoney:So it can be.
Molly Mahoney:Okay.
Molly Mahoney:So what are you using AI for at the moment?
Molly Mahoney:I think a better question is what aren't you using AI for today?
Molly Mahoney:I'm just kidding.
Molly Mahoney:Well, really, you know, where our main goal this year has to bend to, to move
Molly Mahoney:beyond the content creation, so we're still obviously using it for everything
Molly Mahoney:that we're doing content wise, but also we're looking to AIFI our entire business.
Molly Mahoney:So it's like data analysis, and we're actually weaving it into our follow up
Molly Mahoney:process where AI will be responding as an automated assistant in some situations
Molly Mahoney:as well, which we do with messenger bots, but it's a different thing, right,
Molly Mahoney:because messenger bots are pre programmed, kind of choose your own adventure.
Molly Mahoney:This is actually, we have it, it'll be released soon, but it's actually real
Molly Mahoney:AI talking to people, which is kind of fun and also awesome and scary.
Molly Mahoney:And that's just like in the initial follow up piece.
Molly Mahoney:The thing that I have been playing with the most is, did you see that I
Molly Mahoney:made an entire podcast all with AI?
Molly Mahoney:Matthew Hughes - King of Video: Yes, I did.
Molly Mahoney:Yeah, that was the one.
Molly Mahoney:That was a live.
Molly Mahoney:I watched it.
Molly Mahoney:Yeah, it was so cool.
Molly Mahoney:So I went on a flight to the podcaster's cruise and on the way there, I decided,
Molly Mahoney:you know, I wonder what I could do.
Molly Mahoney:Like, if there's a way that I could create a system for my team to be
Molly Mahoney:able to create podcast episodes for me that I'm not even needed for.
Molly Mahoney:And so what we did was we took, I did a giveaway where people, all they
Molly Mahoney:had to do in order to enter to win was ask questions below this post.
Molly Mahoney:I then took all those questions.
Molly Mahoney:I loaded it into AI and I said, 'Hey, organize these questions
Molly Mahoney:and put them in a table with the headers, name, question, and answer.
Molly Mahoney:So I had AI answer all of the questions as well.
Molly Mahoney:And all of our AI systems are seasoned with my own voice and knowledge so it
Molly Mahoney:can answer it in my basic knowledge.
Molly Mahoney:Then I edited it so that I made sure the answers were really
Molly Mahoney:what I would want to give it.
Molly Mahoney:I put it back into AI and I asked it to write a podcast script and I gave
Molly Mahoney:it an example that was like, welcome to the content club podcast today.
Molly Mahoney:We have a question from Matthew, you know, whatever Matthew asks,
Molly Mahoney:blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Molly Mahoney:And then I created the entire thing with AI and it sounded amazing, so.
Molly Mahoney:Matthew Hughes - King of Video: Yeah, it did.
Molly Mahoney:I listened to a few and I was like, no, that can't, the voice can't be AI.
Molly Mahoney:Like it can't, it sounds just like Molly.
Molly Mahoney:This is, so we're going to go down a dark route for a second, just for a second.
Molly Mahoney:Cause I don't want to focus on it too much, but what happens when you're
Molly Mahoney:dying, your AI voice is out there?
Molly Mahoney:Oh my gosh.
Molly Mahoney:You know what, I actually just listened to a video this morning
Molly Mahoney:about the, I haven't talked to anybody about this, but I, up until now.
Molly Mahoney:I listened to this video of a casting agent.
Molly Mahoney:I'll send it to you because it was about the like SAG deal that went through
Molly Mahoney:recently for actors about their AI image.
Molly Mahoney:And this casting director was freaking out about what they had written in this
Molly Mahoney:clause because it said, when you die, the AI version of you that they've created
Molly Mahoney:as a part of this movie or whatever, it was like the union gets to decide what
Molly Mahoney:happens with that after it's done, not your family, not your trust, whatever.
Molly Mahoney:Matthew Hughes - King of Video: I mean, do you know what?
Molly Mahoney:It's really funny because the radio station local to me, Radio
Molly Mahoney:X is, is the one I listened to.
Molly Mahoney:It's a rock radio station, right?
Molly Mahoney:And they did it, they did a, you know, they do like segments and it
Molly Mahoney:was Dave Grohl or not Dave Grohl, and they'd used AI to create like a
Molly Mahoney:bunch of, and it was like, you know, something about, it was the dick emoji.
Molly Mahoney:And it was like, they made him say something like that.
Molly Mahoney:And you had to just guess whether it was the real or the AI version.
Molly Mahoney:And I couldn't tell when I first heard it, I was like, that's Dave Grohl.
Molly Mahoney:And then they said it wasn't Dave Grohl.
Molly Mahoney:It was the AI Dave Grohl.
Molly Mahoney:So it is weird.
Molly Mahoney:There's going to have to be more regulation that's coming through,
Molly Mahoney:you know, and I just heard a lot, also this week about the whole Sam Altman thing
Molly Mahoney:with him getting fired and all of that.
Molly Mahoney:Yeah.
Molly Mahoney:Have you heard the most recent like reasons behind it?
Molly Mahoney:No.
Molly Mahoney:Okay.
Molly Mahoney:I also haven't talked about this really, cause I don't want to freak
Molly Mahoney:people out, but I'm going to tell you.
Molly Mahoney:So there's this new version of the system or whatever called Q Star.
Molly Mahoney:Have you heard of this?
Molly Mahoney:No.
Molly Mahoney:Okay.
Molly Mahoney:Okay.
Molly Mahoney:So it's supposedly, like right now, AI is really great at language,
Molly Mahoney:but it's not great at Math.
Molly Mahoney:And so this Q Star is going to be better at Math.
Molly Mahoney:And the problem with that is, is that everything that we have on
Molly Mahoney:the internet and whatever, is all encrypted with Math, basically.
Molly Mahoney:Yeah.
Molly Mahoney:And so now the machines are going to be able to figure out the potential, I
Molly Mahoney:mean, not now, but like in the future.
Molly Mahoney:And I guess that was the thing that freaked them out
Molly Mahoney:and caused them to fire him.
Molly Mahoney:Matthew Hughes - King of Video: Yeah, because the thing is with encryption
Molly Mahoney:like and the way it used to be because my background is tech, right?
Molly Mahoney:So yeah, I always saw this and you could brute force a
Molly Mahoney:password on a zip file, right?
Molly Mahoney:And it was, it was relatively straightforward.
Molly Mahoney:There's little programs that would just do it and you would give it a dictionary,
Molly Mahoney:a file that was a dictionary and then you would say go nuts and it would go.
Molly Mahoney:And that was in like late 90s, early 2000, whereas the encryption
Molly Mahoney:now, the way they define it is they say you can't get through this
Molly Mahoney:encryption for a billion years.
Molly Mahoney:That's how long it would take to brute force it.
Molly Mahoney:But that's suddenly just disappears with AI.
Molly Mahoney:Yeah.
Molly Mahoney:So yeah, that's scary.
Molly Mahoney:That's scary.
Molly Mahoney:Especially cause you know, SSL and stuff like that is just encryption.
Molly Mahoney:It's just right.
Molly Mahoney:Even like the, my Facebook messages have been weird
Molly Mahoney:lately where it keeps saying like, Oh, these encrypted messages can't
Molly Mahoney:load and I have to refresh it.
Molly Mahoney:So like all of that WhatsApp, all that encryption.
Molly Mahoney:So here's the thing is that some people may hear that and
Molly Mahoney:be like, see, AI is the devil.
Molly Mahoney:I'm never going to use it, but guess what?
Molly Mahoney:It's not going away.
Molly Mahoney:And you using it to create a podcast is not going to help further the Math side
Molly Mahoney:of what they're doing to figure it out.
Molly Mahoney:So when it comes time, it comes to things like this.
Molly Mahoney:I am a firm believer that the more good humans we get to use these tools,
Molly Mahoney:the more good that will be done,
Molly Mahoney:otherwise, it's just the bad guys that are going to use these tools, and that's going
Molly Mahoney:to put us in a whole heap of trouble.
Molly Mahoney:So, we need to be feeding the positivity and the goodness into this stuff.
Molly Mahoney:Otherwise, it's going to, that's when it's going to go dark, is if we ignore it.
Molly Mahoney:Matthew Hughes - King of Video: Yeah, and actually, if you think
Molly Mahoney:about it, Science is a general thing.
Molly Mahoney:Any type of Science is good and bad, you know.
Molly Mahoney:Here's a drug that will help you survive, and if we give you too much of this
Molly Mahoney:one, it will kill you, and that's it, that's Science, it's what is good or
Molly Mahoney:bad, in certain hands it's going to be used in a good way or a bad way.
Molly Mahoney:Anyway, we've gone dark, so let's come back for a second, but it's fascinating, I
Molly Mahoney:do find all of this stuff fascinating, so thanks for sharing some of that with us.
Molly Mahoney:What's the most exciting tool, like, when you think, so you started with Jasper,
Molly Mahoney:but if you think about all the things you saw, what's the thing where you
Molly Mahoney:were like, Oh my God, this is insane.
Molly Mahoney:Can you think of anything that's, what's the first thing that springs to mind?
Molly Mahoney:I mean, Haygen is really the first one that
Molly Mahoney:comes to mind, just like.
Molly Mahoney:Matthew Hughes - King of Video: Well, say that again.
Molly Mahoney:What was it?
Molly Mahoney:Haygen, which that's the one where you can create a
Molly Mahoney:video AI version of yourself.
Molly Mahoney:And it's, do you know Rich Shefren?
Molly Mahoney:No.
Molly Mahoney:Okay.
Molly Mahoney:So he's, he is using it a lot and I just saw, I'm pretty, I'm pretty good
Molly Mahoney:at spotting when it's him, I think, but every video that comes out, I'm like,
Molly Mahoney:is that real Rich or not real Rich?
Molly Mahoney:And I noticed, I meant to message him about it yesterday, but I think
Molly Mahoney:he did a Shorts recently with the camera angle coming from the side.
Molly Mahoney:And from the front.
Molly Mahoney:And I think he has a side angle AI as well as a front angle AI.
Molly Mahoney:So he's, it's all his team doing it.
Molly Mahoney:They're mixing forward facing content, a lot of B roll, side angled content, but I
Molly Mahoney:swear the human parts of it are not human.
Molly Mahoney:And it looks just like him.
Molly Mahoney:Like, I don't have anything that I can like show right here.
Molly Mahoney:I don't think, but I.
Molly Mahoney:Did you, you've seen like the video ones where I have video on my..
Molly Mahoney:Matthew Hughes - King of Video: Yeah.
Molly Mahoney:Have you seen, have you, do you know Austin Armstrong?
Molly Mahoney:Did you..
Molly Mahoney:Oh yeah.
Molly Mahoney:Yeah.
Molly Mahoney:So Austin was doing it on his Shorts as well.
Molly Mahoney:Yeah.
Molly Mahoney:He's speaking at too fast actually.
Molly Mahoney:And I find it fascinating.
Molly Mahoney:You, I mean, you can kind of tell in his, but I think you put a bit more effort into
Molly Mahoney:it and I think it will not be obvious.
Molly Mahoney:Yeah.
Molly Mahoney:So I've only used the cheapest version of it.
Molly Mahoney:There's ones that you can pay to have it make it look even better, like overnight.
Molly Mahoney:The main thing is when you first start using it, you have to record some of
Molly Mahoney:yourself to go into the camera and then you record two minutes, which
Molly Mahoney:it's awkward to record yourself for two minutes without a real purpose.
Molly Mahoney:Yeah.
Molly Mahoney:Record two minutes.
Molly Mahoney:But the first time I did it, it said to close your mouth
Molly Mahoney:in between your sentences.
Molly Mahoney:Don't do that.
Molly Mahoney:Cause I went, "Hi.
Molly Mahoney:My name is Molly Mahoney.
Molly Mahoney:This is my AI avatar."
Molly Mahoney:And then that's exactly what my avatar looked like, which is not how I talk.
Molly Mahoney:Which is not it at all.
Molly Mahoney:So I did it again and I used my hands a lot and I said, now I'm moving my hands.
Molly Mahoney:Now I'm looking off to the side.
Molly Mahoney:Now I'm biting my lip because that kind of looks weird.
Molly Mahoney:Like I did things like that and it does that it looks down.
Molly Mahoney:It does these things within the video.
Molly Mahoney:Matthew Hughes - King of Video: Yeah, nice.
Molly Mahoney:And so another guy I spoke to earlier today, actually Charles, he has created
Molly Mahoney:a system, a content rebranding system, where he's using AI and he generates
Molly Mahoney:almost 2000 videos a week for his socials, 2000 videos a week.
Molly Mahoney:And he talked to me about this system.
Molly Mahoney:He's got like, he's got like five channels and he's testing on
Molly Mahoney:Shorts on one channel if it works.
Molly Mahoney:He moves them to his main channel.
Molly Mahoney:Like..
Molly Mahoney:Okay.
Molly Mahoney:I have a question.
Molly Mahoney:How many people does he have running that system?
Molly Mahoney:Matthew Hughes - King of Video: Well, he told me it's costing
Molly Mahoney:him a couple of hundred dollars.
Molly Mahoney:Well, he said a hundred dollars ish, but a couple of hundred dollars and a
Molly Mahoney:couple of people like it, it doesn't..
Molly Mahoney:That's the thing is with a couple of people, you can totally do
Molly Mahoney:that because what we do is you create a month of content in about an hour,
Molly Mahoney:but that's you doing it as yourself.
Molly Mahoney:But if you have three people that all they're doing is using AI to create.
Molly Mahoney:Videos, you can definitely create 2000 videos in a week, and that's insane,
Molly Mahoney:but it's, you know, even with like all the ways that you can link the AI
Molly Mahoney:tools together with automation, you need to have a few people to check and
Molly Mahoney:to move things from place to place.
Molly Mahoney:Matthew Hughes - King of Video: Yeah, yeah.
Molly Mahoney:So then my question is, how are you going to stand out when AI
Molly Mahoney:is creating 2000 videos a week?
Molly Mahoney:That's my real dilemma.
Molly Mahoney:That's the wrong question.
Molly Mahoney:Yeah.
Molly Mahoney:So this is why your Quesadilla of Awesome is so important, that you
Molly Mahoney:have to make sure that you're weaving in your weird into all of this.
Molly Mahoney:Yeah.
Molly Mahoney:Even if we look at, like Alex Hormozi, all of a sudden everybody's videos
Molly Mahoney:look like his video editor did them.
Molly Mahoney:You know, and so when you're using a tool like video or Opus, they've added
Molly Mahoney:a lot more templates there, but it's like, they all kind of look the same.
Molly Mahoney:So what can we do to weave in our own magic, our own uniqueness?
Molly Mahoney:And that could be something that it's like, within your actual appearance
Molly Mahoney:that you're bringing to the camera, it could be in your background, which
Molly Mahoney:is, you know, your set, which also is something that is unique in you visually.
Molly Mahoney:It could be the actual content is, it's woven in with your
Molly Mahoney:energy is like what happens.
Molly Mahoney:So you've got to figure out what it is that makes you unique and then make sure
Molly Mahoney:that you don't get into a rut where you're following the same formulaic approach
Molly Mahoney:with everything that you're doing.
Molly Mahoney:Yeah.
Molly Mahoney:And isn't that the problem that a lot of people fall into is they follow the
Molly Mahoney:gurus, the people that they think have made it or have got the system and then
Molly Mahoney:they just become carbon copies of those.
Molly Mahoney:Totally.
Molly Mahoney:And then they try to get mad that it doesn't work.
Molly Mahoney:And it's like, yeah, because that was like, I call it a domino light.
Molly Mahoney:It's the thing that lights you up and then creates these other, you
Molly Mahoney:know, ripple effects out there.
Molly Mahoney:You've got to figure out what your domino light is so that you can bring that into..
Molly Mahoney:Like Jeff Walker obviously has a system that he's figured out, right?
Molly Mahoney:But if we all came on exactly like Jeff with our squirrel cam and like
Molly Mahoney:hiking or whatever he's doing, right?
Molly Mahoney:We'd all be the same.
Molly Mahoney:We have to bring in our own weird version of whatever we have, to make it unique
Molly Mahoney:so that it doesn't become white noise.
Molly Mahoney:Matthew Hughes - King of Video: Yeah, totally.
Molly Mahoney:Wicked.
Molly Mahoney:Molly, I mean, I could talk about this AI stuff with you forever,
Molly Mahoney:because I find it so fascinating.
Molly Mahoney:Thank you so much for sharing all of this stuff with us.
Molly Mahoney:I really appreciate it.
Molly Mahoney:Can you let people know When they find you.
Molly Mahoney:Yeah.
Molly Mahoney:So if you go to mollymahoney.com, what's actually really cool about that site
Molly Mahoney:is there's just three links there.
Molly Mahoney:One will take you to the stuff that we do at the Prepared Performer
Molly Mahoney:with like business coaching and all that kind of stuff.
Molly Mahoney:One will take you to speaker stuff.
Molly Mahoney:And then one, like how you can become a speaker and then one will take you
Molly Mahoney:where if you actually want to, you know, have me come speak at your event
Molly Mahoney:because AI is cool, but in person, real life things are like way cooler.
Molly Mahoney:So, that's a good place to start.
Molly Mahoney:And then we have all kinds of downloads and things like that,
Molly Mahoney:that you can find there too.
Molly Mahoney:Matthew Hughes - King of Video: Okay.
Molly Mahoney:And what I would say is, unfortunately, Molly is not speaking at TubeFest,
Molly Mahoney:which is in May, May 23rd, but she is speaking at Atomicon in, when is that?
Molly Mahoney:May 23rd.
Molly Mahoney:June, June 18th, I believe.
Molly Mahoney:Matthew Hughes - King of Video: Yeah, I'll put the link in the show notes so you can
Molly Mahoney:go and check that out and I'll be there.
Molly Mahoney:You should go to both events.
Molly Mahoney:That's really what you should do.
Molly Mahoney:Matthew Hughes - King of Video: Yeah, absolutely.
Molly Mahoney:What I will say is, for me, and I spoke to someone about this recently, like
Molly Mahoney:events and going and seeing people in real life is where the magic happens.
Molly Mahoney:Speaking to people, the conversation we have now on this podcast in this
Molly Mahoney:small amount of time happens at the bar not necessarily always with
Molly Mahoney:Molly, although it has been known.
Molly Mahoney:But it happens in the room with the people that you live and that's where you get
Molly Mahoney:all of the the good hints And tips and stuff that you learn, so definitely go
Molly Mahoney:to these events and get involved as well.
Molly Mahoney:Thank you so much Molly.
Molly Mahoney:Really appreciate your time.
Molly Mahoney:So happy for you to be here and lovely to see you as always.
Molly Mahoney:And that's it again, we've got no outro, so we're just, it's just going to end
Molly Mahoney:with that no outro and the no intro.
Molly Mahoney:That's your weird.
Molly Mahoney:You're not, that is my way.
Molly Mahoney:Yeah.
Molly Mahoney:Cause I was like, you know, I listened to all these podcasts.
Molly Mahoney:I was doing my research Why have they always got all got this cheesy?
Molly Mahoney:It's like, and that's the thing.
Molly Mahoney:Like this American format that you guys have created.
Molly Mahoney:It's your fault as a nation.
Molly Mahoney:It's your fault.
Molly Mahoney:I bet it's also marketer's fault.
Molly Mahoney:Everything.
Molly Mahoney:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.
Molly Mahoney:Probably digital marketer, the business, they have this cheesy format and then
Molly Mahoney:everyone thinks they have to do it.
Molly Mahoney:And when I saw it, I was like, no, let my inside rebel went.
Molly Mahoney:No, I'm not doing that.
Molly Mahoney:So now it just ends in a really abrupt and crap way.
Molly Mahoney:Okay.
Molly Mahoney:Bye.