Marvin: Hey, folks, it's Marvin Cash, the host of the Articulate Fly,

Marvin: and we're back with another Roosh Report with the man himself,

Marvin: Brendan Roosh. How are you, Brendan?

Brendan: Doing well, Marvin. Thank you. How are you doing?

Marvin: As always, just trying to stay out of trouble. And how have things been on your

Marvin: home waters the last couple of weeks?

Brendan: Been dropping pretty consistently into the nice early summer flows.

Brendan: Got a little bit of rain today i would imagine the smaller water is going to

Brendan: bump a bit maybe get a little bit dirty for the next couple days but that's

Brendan: a good thing if you want to get out there and throw some streamers yeah.

Marvin: I was going to say that sounded like maybe the thing you were so excited about

Marvin: was having all that high water to fish streamers was kind of going away from you right.

Brendan: Yeah definitely it's uh gonna be turning into more of a top water bite and or

Brendan: um crayfish and smaller bait fish slim profile stuff gotcha.

Marvin: And so when you say top water are you talking like top water like frogs are

Marvin: you talking about top water bugs.

Brendan: Bugs for sure the frog bite kind of goes away with the the streamer water the

Brendan: bigger streamer water that is um but yeah i mean you're still fishing pretty

Brendan: large boogal bugs like the you

Brendan: know the largest size they make they'll eat them most of the summer got.

Marvin: It well uh you know your friends uh came uh you know came in for you because

Marvin: you got some really great questions.

Marvin: And I think I told you the asshat to non-asshat ratio was one to two or two

Marvin: to one if you go non-asshat to asshat.

Marvin: And the funny question is from one of your buddies, I guess it's Shagbark Sheriff,

Marvin: and he wanted to know how you listen to the Smiths on the water and not get

Marvin: so sad that you can't catch anything.

Brendan: Well, first of all, shout out Sam Riedman. I appreciate the question.

Brendan: I mean, if you're in the mood to listen to the Smiths you're already sad,

Brendan: so I don't think that's going to affect how you fish because you were going

Brendan: to fish the same way either way I think the Smiths just gives you a little bit of a boost,

Brendan: you get a little bit of a bass line and some drums to,

Brendan: add some consistency to your casting cadence and your stripping cadence and

Brendan: yeah, you can sing along too too, so you don't have to be sad by yourself.

Marvin: Yeah, but it doesn't make you want to grab the anchor and just roll over the gunwale?

Brendan: No, never. No, no, no. Morrissey's boys counteracts the lyrics.

Brendan: That's the nice thing about the Smiths.

Marvin: There you go. And so in a slightly more serious vein and actually related to

Marvin: what you're seeing on the water, J.

Marvin: Wynn wanted to know, do you target shade lines when you topwater fish in the

Marvin: summer and also kind of some thoughts around, you know, the,

Marvin: the optimal depth to fish top water.

Brendan: Definitely targeting shade lines when they exist on good banks. Um,

Brendan: there are some some like silty featureless banks where maybe i'll just kind

Brendan: of pop out and fish that that first drop structure um yeah i mean you could

Brendan: be looking anywhere from a foot to,

Brendan: five feet um bass will definitely notice a cork bug slapping on the surface

Brendan: you know within 10 feet of them or so maybe even a little further when the water

Brendan: is super placid and uh typically

Brendan: it's going to be pretty clear when you're fishing that stuff.

Marvin: And so do they generally like to sit on the edge or are they going to sit inside

Marvin: from the edge and move to the bug?

Brendan: In the shade line you're talking about?

Marvin: Yeah, exactly.

Brendan: I mean, I would definitely get it a few feet, maybe two feet inside the edge,

Brendan: but I have had fish move out of the shade line on, you know,

Brendan: watching a cast that didn't get there all the way.

Brendan: You can see a fish poke its head out and come up and sit. it i'd be i'd be going

Brendan: two feet in though two to three feet got.

Marvin: It and i would imagine depth is probably what a function of water clarity.

Brendan: Yeah i mean in the shade line they can sit in some really skinny stuff um i

Brendan: think it's just gonna be more productive if you have like cobble rock bottom

Brendan: um or some you know a shade line

Brendan: that's going to be covering some boulders and um maybe a log or two got.

Marvin: It and then i'll you know ask you you know are you a no twitch the bug or twitch the bug kind of guy.

Brendan: I'm in

Brendan: between i'm a twitch the

Brendan: bug and if you twitch it too soon

Brendan: i'll say all right give it like twice the amount of pause and then i might say

Brendan: i give it twice that amount of pause it's kind of like that's one of those things

Brendan: where i feel like goldilocks um like it's too odd or too cool like it just doesn't

Brendan: feel right sometimes and when it does feel right it's usually when it gets seeking

Brendan: as far as like the the length of your pause.

Marvin: Yeah, and I would imagine, or you're probably just trying to wiggle the bug

Marvin: just enough really to just kind of move the legs and disturb the surface just

Marvin: a little bit. You're not popping unless you're fishing a popper, right?

Brendan: Yeah, I mean, even if I am fishing a popper, a lot of times I'm doing that kind

Brendan: of leg bending movement.

Brendan: I think it depends on the speed of the water and the depth of the water.

Brendan: um like fishing some faster

Brendan: rivers in the past like faster than the stuff that i fish in

Brendan: south central pa um you can definitely pop a little

Brendan: bit louder um and a little bit more often when

Brendan: you're in some faster current um and then

Brendan: when you're in that really placid flat water that's not

Brendan: moving a ton i think i just don't think you need to pop um because a fish is

Brendan: going to respond to your fly landing and if it's starting to come up and you

Brendan: like you might not even see it but bending it bending the legs and creating

Brendan: a little bit of a wake is going to make that fish commit and.

Marvin: I would imagine you're probably doing that with just a little tap of the rod

Marvin: tip you're not moving the line hand right.

Brendan: Yeah i think if you strip it then you are more likely to get drag on the fly

Brendan: um just like you would if you were trying to dead drip the dry fly you're not

Brendan: gonna um do any sort of stripping, you're just going to be feeding line.

Brendan: So, um, typically what I recommend people do is just raise the rod tip until

Brendan: they see the legs move and then drop it immediately.

Brendan: So that slack kind of stays in the system and, uh, the fly isn't going to start

Brendan: swinging out if there are more than one currents, um, or if there's a current

Brendan: that's different in between you and your fly.

Marvin: Got it. And, uh, you know, as you kind of start to move into the warmer days

Marvin: of the summer, uh, you know, what do you think the next couple of weeks are

Marvin: going to hold for you in Pennsylvania?

Brendan: Um the forecast is looking good i think we're

Brendan: going to definitely be going into the summer

Brendan: program pretty quickly um flows that

Brendan: i'm looking at are more typical of like a solid summer flow that's definitely

Brendan: not low water yet by any means but um fish are going to be looking up and i

Brendan: think I think the big streamer bite's probably over for most people.

Brendan: But the small streamer bite's still fun, and the best time of the year,

Brendan: the topwater season, is on the horizon.

Brendan: So dead drifting bugs is going to be the thing for the next few months here.

Marvin: Yeah, and then probably what on the streamer front, probably like small changers, things like that?

Brendan: Yeah, finesse changers, Murdage Minnows, Shimmering Minnows,

Brendan: deceivers. I mean, anything that's going to be a slim profile and sub three and a half inches.

Marvin: Well, there you go. And you know, folks, we love questions at the Articulate Fly.

Marvin: You can email them to me. You can DM me on social media. We want to keep Brendan's

Marvin: life as simple as possible, and I'll manage the ASHAT and non-ASHAT questions.

Marvin: And if we use your question, I will send you some Articulate Fly swag.

Marvin: And Brendan is in the process of putting together a pretty Pretty good bunch

Marvin: of goodies from him, from the Log Jam folks, from the House of Fly folks.

Marvin: You want to tell folks a little bit more about that?

Brendan: Yes. And it's not House of Fly. It's House Fly from these guys.

Marvin: I'm sorry. The House of Fly guys are the guys on the West Coast, right?

Brendan: Yes.

Marvin: All right. My bad.

Brendan: But I totally understand the mix-up. It happens all the time.

Marvin: It makes me feel not so bad.

Marvin: so you want to tell folks a little bit more about kind of what you're pulling

Marvin: together and i know you're still working on it a little bit.

Brendan: Yeah um so we're going

Brendan: to get some stickers and some merchandise from uh log

Brendan: jam and my buddies at housefly um and i'll throw in a ruch angling hat as well

Brendan: a couple stickers so it's going to be if you're into uh any one of those companies

Brendan: you're probably in all three so should be a nice little prize bet super.

Marvin: Cool and you want to let folks know where they can reach out to you and book

Marvin: in fish with you this summer.

Brendan: Yeah um at brendan rish on instagram rish angling on facebook and uh yeah come

Brendan: out and fish it's going to be i think it's going to be a solid summer i don't

Brendan: see any weird weather patterns doesn't feel like it's going to be a weird year yeah.

Marvin: And then i guess if your groupies want to find you i know that you're kind of

Marvin: a regular on the Tuesday night time stuff with the Log Jam folks anywhere else folks can find you?

Brendan: As of right now, I don't have anything else on the horizon besides the Roosh

Brendan: Report and Log Jam Live on Tuesdays at 8.35 p.m. Eastern.

Marvin: Yeah, that's an insanely specific time for you guys. It's kind of weird.

Brendan: I think he's doing it on purpose. I think it's like a Seinfeld bit.

Marvin: Yeah, I would throw my hat and say just go for 8.37, seven, but that's just

Marvin: me split the difference. Exactly.

Marvin: Well, listen, folks, folks, as I always say, you owe it to yourself to get out

Marvin: there and catch a few tight lines, everybody tight lines, Brendan.

Brendan: Take care, Marvin. Thanks.