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Well, Hey everybody,
Jonathan Doyle with you.

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Once again, welcome my
friend to the daily podcast.

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What a privilege it is.

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You are going to bless me
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I better do a good job, right?

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No pressure on me, but I want to make
sure that I give you something useful.

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As we always say, you don't need.

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A vast panoply, plethora
of ideas and strategies and

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systems to change your life.

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So often we can get bogged down
in this idea that we have to find.

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This vast complex meta system to
change every corner of our lives.

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No friends, as we always say,
all we need is one good idea

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that we're actually prepared.

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To use.

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It doesn't matter what we know.

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What we know in life actually doesn't
truly matter what matters is what we

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do with what we know, what we learn,
how we use it, whether we deploy it in

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effective ways that bless ourselves and
other people, you can know everything.

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You can know.

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Every system strategy, book, insight,
psychological, spiritual principle.

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But if you do not deploy
them and put them to work.

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They are nothing.

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They are not particularly useful.

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It's like having the world's most
beautiful library, but the door is locked.

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You never go in and use the
knowledge and put it to you.

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Now today, we're going to talk about.

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I really challenging topic.

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It's something I've been alluding
to in episodes on and off, I

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guess, for the last year or so.

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It's this idea that the thought
processes flowing through

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our brains on a daily basis.

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I think we need to have a bit of a.

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What do you call it?

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A come to Jesus moment.

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We need to have one of those moments
where we begin to re-look at rethink.

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Our relationship with our
own thought processes.

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I'm increasingly convinced that
transformative change tends to happen

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at the level of our relationship
with our conscious thinking.

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You know, changing our subconscious
thinking is obviously more

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challenging because it's subconscious.

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You know, that can be accessed
of course, through state of deep

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states of meditation and prayer.

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Uh, things like music and drama and
symbology can change some of that.

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But, uh, it's a harder process,
whereas our conscious thinking process.

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Is something that we
can begin to work with.

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If we get conscious, if we begin to pay
deep attention to the actual thought

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processes going on and catching ourselves
in the act of going, you know, what.

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That's not helping so much at the time I
thought process is fly along and we assume

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that they reality regular listeners.

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You know, I talk about this regularly
because, you know, as in Paul famously

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said of sinners of whom I am chief,
I can say with you have a lazy

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thinkers of which I have been chief
and by lazy thinkers, I just mean.

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I have been a person historically, who has
been victim to the weather of my thinking.

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So if the weather was good, I
could be positive and pumped.

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If the weather was not good in my internal
psychological dialogue, then I could

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become victim to its super, super fast.

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Now I want to, I just want to mention
something and I've got to go deeper

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to find out where I was reading it.

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I was reading some research.

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Have a high level or
peer reviewed research.

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Just around.

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Do you know how all of us have grown
up with the concept of the biochemical

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basis for negative feeling states and
significant mental health problems?

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You know, all of us have been aware
of this idea that, um, the neuro

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chemical balances in our brains
can affect our feeling states.

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There's been some very interesting
research coming out recently saying we're

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not quite sure how true that may be.

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And, uh, I don't want to go down
that rabbit hole with you just yet.

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I want to get my, uh, empirical,
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a little bit stronger, but.

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If we took that out of the
equation, just as a thought

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experiment, let's just say that.

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Uh, mental health states are much.

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Uh, more consistently predicated upon.

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The way that we are thinking.

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See the problem with that.

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See two things of just two things
to think about if that was correct.

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If we were in a sense doing
it to ourselves now that

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is not blaming the victim.

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Of course everybody listening, we're all
in a different space on our own emotional,

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spiritual, mental health journey.

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But if we took some of that out,
that kind of neurochemical fallback,

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then what would happen is firstly.

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You know, big pharma would go out
of business even faster because

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of course they're incredibly
invested in that process.

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But secondly, we'd have to take
an incredible responsibility.

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For monitoring, managing
and directing our thinking.

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Now.

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This is difficult to do.

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This is something that I have found
difficult and challenging to do in my own

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life, but I want to give you some quotes.

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Firstly, I want to give you three.

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And, you know, if you think of the
famous quote from Ralph Waldo Emerson,

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the American metaphysical poet.

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Emerson, uh, excuse the gender
specific famously said a man is

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what he thinks about all day.

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And you heard that before.

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Um, let's just change it.

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A person is what they think about all day.

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It's a very famous quote from Emerson.

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That we become what we think.

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You know, if we thinking
thoughts that are.

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You know, Uh, I guess let's say somebody
does something to us that we don't like.

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We've all had the experience of,
of borrowing down deeply into

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thoughts of self justification.

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I can't believe they did this to me.

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This is terrible.

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This is, and we get in that
spin cycle where it was

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spinning along and we begin to.

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Gravitate and think about those.

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You know how we've been
hurt, how we've been wounded.

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And I was thinking as I
was coming into the studio.

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Do you remember when you were
a kid and Christmas was coming

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or your birthday was coming?

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Like, I don't know about you, but
we would begin to obsess about it.

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Right?

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You get so excited that the joy and
the excitement leading up to those

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days could be really quite profound.

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Um, my daughter's having her
15th birthday tomorrow and, you

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know, she's, um, In many ways.

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She's a very, she's a beautiful human
being and she's a very gentle spirit.

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And you know, she's quite,
self-contained a little bit like a dad.

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But then the last few days and weeks
she's been really talking about her.

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Birthday and how excited she is.

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And you can see that a thinking
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Is targeting.

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A positive feeling state about
something that's meaningful to her.

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Right.

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So you begin to see that we are
making choices about how we think

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and what we choose to focus upon.

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All right now.

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I think this is a really hard message.

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I think it's harder than we actually
want to give credit for, because it's

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easier to blame an external circumstance.

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It's easy to blame a neurochemical process
and it is to go well, what if, you know.

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I am participating in my own
unhappiness or my happiness.

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Let me give you another quote here.

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This is from Emmet Fox.

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Emmet Fox was a member of a gang.

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What is it called?

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I think it's called the new, the new
faith movement in the early 20th century.

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It was a kind of weird sin.

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Not syncretism, but, uh,

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Uh, kind of, um, Yeah, I guess
it was a synchronous movement.

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It kind of pulling together of.

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Of stoic, metaphysical,
spiritual principles.

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Um, I think what they were trying to
do is take the best that they could

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find out of all the world's spiritual,
psychological principles and meld

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them into a kind of way of being.

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So they'd be good in this.

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There'd be stuff in this that would
be problematic for some of us, but I

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just want to give you this one quote,
he says, what you think upon grows.

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Whatever you're allowed
to occupy your mind.

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You magnify in your life.

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Whether the subject of your
thought be good or bad.

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The law works and the condition grows.

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Any subject that you keep out of your
mind tends to diminish in your life

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because what you do not use atrophies.

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The more you think of grievances.

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The more such trials, you
will continue to receive.

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The more you think of the
good fortune you have had.

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The more good fortune will come to you.

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All right.

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So at the extreme end, we've got the
kind of, you know, that movie and book,

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the secret that came out when you just
kind of, you think about a push and

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then you walk out in your driveway and
it's there and you're like, good's that.

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So you can see there's a, w
we've got a spectrum here, right?

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We've got a, we've got a spectrum.

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We've got a spectrum from believing
that we can manipulate physical

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reality simply by our thinking.

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All the way back to believing
that our thought processes

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are completely irrelevant.

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What I'm trying to do is move
the needle for all of us today.

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And move us a little further down
the line to realize that what we

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think upon is Emmet Fox's you grows.

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And what we don't think
about tends to atrophy.

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So remember is a keyboard.

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I broke my arm skateboarding.

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I remember I was, it was a pretty
bad break and I was in a, uh, I

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was in a cast for a long time.

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And I remember when I
finally came out of the cast.

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You know, the, the atrophy that had taken
place, the muscle system hadn't been

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used and it had kind of withered away.

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And I had to do a lot
of work to get it back.

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So I liked this principle
from Emmet Fox here that.

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You know that if we're not thinking about.

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Uh, w you know, particular things, if
we're not dwelling on, who's upset us.

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If we're not dwelling upon.

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What's wrong with the world.

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Then it begins to diminish in our lives.

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Now.

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I want to qualify this by saying, I'm
not saying if your ex you've experienced

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abuse or trauma that you just, you
know, don't think about that completely.

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I'm a big advocate for saying, we
need to process deep pain in life.

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We need to do that work.

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We might need, um, psychologicals,
you know, spiritual counseling,

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whatever we need to, to work through
the wounds and the pains of life.

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But I think there comes a point.

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Where we have to begin to diminish.

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Some of the negative things
that we can think about.

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And begin to focus upon some
of the things that are true.

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Good and beautiful about reality itself.

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If you focus upon the negative
in the world at the moment?

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Well, the first thing is you're not
going to run out of material, right?

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You're not going to run out of material.

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You can find something in
the world right now to be.

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You know, Either terrified about or
angry about or upset about, and you can

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see it tearing apart the social fabric
at the moment, politically, socially

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in a, in many parts of the world.

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But what have, we can begin to think
about other things, you know, think

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about things that are more beneficial to
us that are more beneficial to others.

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The last quote, I'll give you.

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Comes from the good book itself from
Philippians four, chapter eight, where,

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you know, simple finally says, finally,
brothers and sisters, whatever is true,

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whatever is noble, whatever is right.

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Whatever is pure.

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Whatever is lovely.

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Whatever is admirable.

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If anything is excellent or praiseworthy.

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Think about such things.

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So right at the birth of the early
Christian Church, you see this process

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by which there's an encouragement
to, Hey, direct your thinking.

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Think about these specific things.

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Don't think necessarily about the
wickedness and evil of the Roman empire.

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That's trying to kill you.

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If you think about that, you'll become.

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You know, You'll become full of fear.

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You'll become, you know, angry
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think about beautiful things.

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Think about pure things.

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Think about noble things.

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Think about things that are true.

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So there's this direct.

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Exhortation.

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To direct our thinking.

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So, all right, let's wrap this up
here is I guess the, what I keep

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trying to teach everybody is step one.

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Is consciousness.

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Step one is to become increasingly
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on in your thinking process.

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If you're struggling with depression.

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I'm not telling you anything you don't
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I've experienced depression in life.

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I've experienced anxiety in life.

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And I it's just, you know, there,
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It's like this weather comes in.

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And we make agreements in a sense,
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life's never going to get any better.

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No one really cares about me.

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Things are going to get worse.

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It's never going to change.

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And that, that internal dialogue, I
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Cognitive behavior therapy is like,

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Beginning to capture the thought,
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And begin to genuinely think differently.

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Now, concentrate.

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This is work.

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This is work.

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This is not a nice feel.

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Good idea.

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This is not an Oprah
Winfrey, Instagram meme.

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It is like you've got to work at this.

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So as I go through my day to
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I have to notice I have to work at it.

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I have to even pay attention to things
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You know, there's a physiological
thing going on here in a sense, right?

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We get tired.

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Sometimes we need to notice that
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We need to rest.

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We need to eat well.

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We need to look after ourselves.

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We need to get the exercise.

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We need put those pieces
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What am I really the essence of this?

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Is, I just think that all of us
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That if we want a different quality
of life, we are going to need a

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different quality of internal dialogue.

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You know, just want to draw
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when Emmet Fox's, you know,

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If you think about the good
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good fortune will come to you.

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You know, some of you might be just not,
you know, I guess, resistant to what

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I'm saying here today, but I keep coming
back to somebody like Victor Frankl.

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Who went through Auschwitz
who went through the Nazi

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extermination camps and survived it.

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And developed, you know, logotherapy the
third Viennese school of psychotherapy.

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And he was like, you know, He found
things in the death camps to be grateful

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and, and to feel fortunate about.

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And then his life goes on to be alive in a
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makes a massive contribution to the world.

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So by this, I mean that even if you
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you have had suffering betrayal or pain
in life, you can still find some good.

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You can still begin to reprogram
your internal narrative to go.

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Yep.

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You know what this happened?

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This happened, this happened,
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it is it's made me stronger.

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It's made me more accepting of reality.

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It's made me more compassionate.

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It's made me want to reach out
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So, no matter what we go through, we
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meaning of our negative life experiences
through that internal language through.

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This happened to me, but guess what?

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It was awful.

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I wouldn't wish it on somebody,
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to be gentle, compassionate.

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It's given me an ability to
model, make something of my life,

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regardless of what's happened.

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All right.

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I want to say summary again and keep
going, but I think I should wrap up.

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But I'm going to do it anyway.

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All right.

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Here it is.

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You don't have to be a
victim to your thought life.

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I don't have to be a
victim to my thought life.

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We need to begin to capture our
thoughts, notice our thoughts

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and direct our thoughts.

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And it's hard, hard work.

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It's a moment in history where
it's much easy to be a victim.

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It's much easy to blame, you know?

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Uh, an external process,
an internal process, a a

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government, a financial system.

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Pick pick your, you know,

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Pick your poison.

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Right?

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We can find something to externalize
our problems toward don't mean

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that we don't fight for justice
and do what we can reasonably do

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to change systems and structures.

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But at the end of the day,
We have an incredible chance.

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To direct a future.

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By catching ourselves in the
act of unhelpful thinking.

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And choosing and deciding
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Friends.

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This has been the journey of my life.

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This has been the battle of my life to do
this, you know, to actually do this work.

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I'm going to be doing it today.

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So if you get off this podcast and
you're like, oh, that's a nice idea.

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Come and join me, come and
join me in the actual work.

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Because if you can do
this, you will change.

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You will not necessarily massively
change overnight, but you will change.

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You go.

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I don't have to think this.

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I don't have to think
this about this person.

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I don't have to think they always do this.

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I can choose how I think I can choose.

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I can choose.

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I can choose.

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All right, God bless you.

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Please make sure you've subscribed.

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I'd love it.

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If you could share this with people.

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I, if you think I'm crazy.

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Uh, semi and email
jonathan@jonathandoyle.co.

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And, um, I'll try and dig up
that, uh, scientific paper

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on the neurochemical basis.

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I did have it recently, so if I can find
it, I'll put it in the show notes today.

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Or you can email me and i'll keep finding
it and i'll i'll put it out there god

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bless everybody my name's jonathan dog get
out there take the power back take that

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control back be a blessing to the people
in your life because you're choosing to

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think differently my name's jonathan doyle
this has been the daily message and you

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and i are going to talk again tomorrow